1 Geez, Ace is on fire today! The posts keep a coming!

2 Justin Bieber for Secretary of Defense

3

Rhode Island republicans are going big for Trump.

I think he's selling soap or something.

4 Charlie Sheen for Drug Czar.

5 It's the hair.

6 we're not really going to do this, are we?

I agree. We're not really going to go to our doom behind Mitt Romney, are we?

7 Trump doesn't want to win-- this is all promotion.  He's perfectly happy promoting Trump, and cares nothing about winning the office.

8

If Pawlenty believes that then he's just too stupid for words.

He should focus on Florida.

9 Most of America realizes that Obama is a massive overinflated balloon but Trump is the only guy willing to pick up a fork.  Why is that?

10 This is what happens when we have a field of potential candidates who are not capable of telling it like it is.  Too much mealy-mouthing from all of them except Palin,  and she is sitting in her Northern Stronghold probably taking elocution lessons (I hope so,  because that is my one complaint about her).

Either Trump will turn out to be a good candidate or he won't.  He will have to go through the primaries like everyone else.

His son was on Fox and Friends this morning and went into a rant about how our foreign policy is embarrassing and how our economy is being destroyed.  He also said he would be thrilled if his father ran.

I am merely enjoying the fact that SOMEONE is talking about what a terrible president Obama is.   I will vote for the Republican nominee,  and if it's Trump,  well,  he is STILL better than Obama!

11 Mike Vick for Dog Tsar, or not.

12

Let's not forget that Donald Trump has successfully run hundreds of failed businesses!

13 I'm personally for Pawlenty. Because we a leader who can walk and chew gum at the same time.

14 OT: WI Gov. Scott Walker signed the budget repair bill earlier today

15 The Onion had a pretty funny piece on Newt Gingrich running for president. "Hell, look at me: I'm a public relations nightmare," said Gingrich, adding that, for many years in the late '90s and early 2000s, his name was basically a punch line. "Remember that whole thing with me divorcing my wife while she was still in the hospital recovering from cancer? For my campaign's sake, I hope people have forgotten about that. But c'mon, it's a pretty bleak political landscape when the presidential campaign of a known philanderer is actually getting off the ground."

16

Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump.

If that sentence didn't deeply disturb you, burn your voter registration card, stay away from sharp objects, and seek professional help at your nearest mental health facility.

17 Why vote for Donald Trump, when the original, Ross Perot, is still alive?

18 I could run, but I would never get the Cat vote. Fucken felines

19 As for Donald Trump, I think he appeals to those who dislike career pols-- who wouldn't like this field?-- and to others who've seen him on TV and like him. But how far will he go in the debates?

20

If Pawlenty believes that then he's just too stupid for words.

If you don't believe that these early polls aren't heavily biased towards high name recognition, it's not Pawlenty who is the stupid one...

21 Trump doesn't want to win-- this is all promotion.  He's perfectly happy promoting Trump, and cares nothing about winning the office.

Posted by: nickless at April 06, 2011 06:45 PM (MMC8r)

I don't know, I think he's serious. The guy has a fucking ego many orders of magnitude larger than anything that Obama could fap for.

22

 

Polls, schmolls.

23 Did Fox News can Beck like Centurylink says or was it something he decided?

24

Conartist In Chief, Narcissistic Maxamus. He plays a good game, I don't buy it.  

25 Tied with Huckabee?  You gotta do better than that, boy.

26 21 Sorry-- "who would like this field?"

27

Fuck it.  Just subcontract the producers of American Idol to run the primary for us.  It seems that a high proportion of voters can't tell the difference as it is.

28 This is an age-old Democrat trick -- skew polls to the people in the GOP field that are guaranteed to lose against their nominee. Shades of Ross Perot ... and equally odoriferous.

I cannot take Trump seriously. There are some wackos in the GOP but I don't even think Trump is a Republican except in the Bloomberg sense and he is certainly no conservative.

At a time when the GOP should walk away with the election, are we going to honor tradition and shoot ourselves in all our feet and a few knees while we're at it? I sincerely hope not. But it is way too early to be mixing up the hemlock just yet.

29 This polling just highlights the sheer ignorance of the typical American voter.

30 Trump is the only guy willing to pick up a fork. Why is that? Posted by: Cicero at April 06, 2011 06:46 PM (QKKT0) 1. The election is over a year away. 2. The media is overwhelmingly in the tank for Obama and will relentlessly attack his Republican challenger. 3. Running for office is expensive. 4. Donald Trump likes the attention. Nobody else does.

31 Where are they conducting these polls?  Some bar in Ft. Lauderdale running a wet T-shirt contest?

32

But how far will he go in the debates?

I'll eat a Goldfish for every Trancript, Paper, or Report Card Barack Obama releases!

33 If conservatives even CONSIDER this idiot, I am done. What is wrong with people? He is NOT a conservative. He was out there saying all kinds of nice things about obama after the election; I thought I was going to puke. As far as I know, there is nothing that qualifies him to be president, other than him making his BC public. So, he is a rich business man with a huge ego - great!

34

If that dead polar bear in Germany (Krout? Col. Klink? a K name) would say what Trump said on O'Reilly I would vote for the polar bear, may he RIP.

Trump says, without fear of special interests controlling his thoughts or mouth or future, what many Americans are thinking. His interview last Thursday (on pompous-pants O'Reilly) was supposed to "make our heads snap back" on his stance in Iraq (he believes we should stay and have them pay for our money and blood in oil---zacktly what the Code Pinkers protested with Bush). My head did not snap back, O'reilly. Instead, big surprise, you moderate preening jerk (O'Reilly is who I am talkin' to), I agreed with Trump on most of what he said, and admired his straight talk. Trump has a point: these countries should owe us for freeing them from dictators et all. He wants to put a tariff on China, who are bleeding us dry in money and jobs. He wants Obummer to put up or shut up on the BC issue. He has nothing to lose in speaking what a huge number of Americans think, and I admire his courage. He simply does not care what the media or elites think about him as he has nothing to lose. I like someone stirriing the pot of political correctness. Go for it, The Donald.

35 If The Donald promises that his running mate will lead off his/her debate with, "Who am I? Why am I here?" he's got my vote!! /s

36 Who would be his VH?  Gary Busey?  Meatloaf?

37

Sorry-- "who would like this field?"

Don't worry- we were saying the same thing in 2008 and 1996, and everything worked out just...

...err, nevermind.  OK, you can worry now.

38 Geez, Ace is on fire today! The posts keep a coming!

Posted by: runningrn at April 06, 2011 06:39 PM (ihSHD)

 

Wednesday is Ace's peak (and most sober) day.  It's all downhill from here.

39

I'm done with polls. All of the polls in Wisconsin said the public hated the union bill and hated walker and all republicans who had approval ratings in the low 40's

Despite National labor unions and all the bad press the real poll turned out to be 50/50.

Polls are propoganda and rassumssen has gotten to be as bad as the rest of them after he got dinged in Nevada.

40

Who would be his VH?  Gary Busey?  Meatloaf?

The VP will be chosen in a competition amongst former Ms. America pagent winners.

41 This is an age-old Democrat trick -- skew polls to the people in the GOP field that are guaranteed to lose against their nominee. Most people are dumber than dirt and didn't know that Mitt Romney passed Obamacare in Massachusetts first, even though he's done nothing but fire people and run for office his whole life. The MSM will make sure you know everything about Mitt Romney except for his shitty record right up till the election. You'll never hear that anyone is running against him except Caribou Barbie, the fat guy and a bowl of oatmeal.

42 Trump monetarily contributed to Pelosi, Weiner, and Schumer and publicly fellated Nan.

Fuck him.

43

Polls are propoganda and rassumssen has gotten to be as bad as the rest of them after he got dinged in Nevada.

Posted by: robtr at April 06, 2011 06:56 PM (MtwBb)

So I'm guessing Frank Luntz makes you want to punch Hannity in the balls? And then Luntz?

44

If that dead polar bear in Germany (Krout? Col. Klink? a K name) would say what Trump said on O'Reilly I would vote for the polar bear, may he RIP.

So what you're saying is that Trump will be competing with Ron Paul for the delusional nutjob voting demographic.

45 Fred Thompson? He has to have a viagra IV drip to take a piss. Could he stay awake through a debate. History says no. I say no. Fred did a piss poor job last time and I'm done with his lethargic ass.

46 Huh? Politicians who don't like attention? Do tell about these mythical creatures ... Posted by: iknowtheleft at April 06, 2011 06:55 PM (G/MYk) Bitch set me up!

47 Mitch Daniels has the experience, resume, conservative principles, gravitas and personal demeanor that would make Obama look small in any debate.  I wish he'd get into the race.  His candidacy would strike true fear into the hearts of Democrats.

48

I nominate that Rent Is Too Damn High guy for his veep.

 

49

I heard a rumor that Glenn Beck is ending his show in order to focus on a bid for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination.

Well, actually I'm starting the rumor, unless somebody else already has.

50

So I'm guessing Frank Luntz makes you want to punch Hannity in the balls? And then Luntz?

Posted by: ErikW at April 06, 2011 06:59 PM (Wr0u7)

I never thought about it that way but it works for me.

51 We're not going to do this?

Oh yes we are. The reason Trump is showing well is because he fucking throws a punch. He's smart enough to realize the Birther issue is not a distraction and bold enough to speak out on it. An issue that is important to a significant portion of the electorate is not a fucking distraction.

I agree that Trump is not a serious candidate. But instead of whining and bitching, simply acknowledge what makes Trump popular and act on it. The voters are not a distraction

52 Trump monetarily contributed to Pelosi, Weiner, and Schumer and publicly fellated Nan.

Fuck him.

Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at April 06, 2011 06:59 PM (6IReR)

Yeah, this.

I've been guilty of "He can't be any worse than Obama" syndrome but actions speak louder than words.

53 Trump is a flash in the pan.  Sure, he'll be better than Obama, but that's a low bar to cross.  I don't trust him, given his funding history. 

we're not really going to do this, are we?

The Republicans aren't called the "Stupid Party" for no reason. 

54 52

I heard a rumor that Glenn Beck is ending his show in order to focus on a bid for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination.

Well, actually I'm starting the rumor, unless somebody else already has.

Posted by: gebrauchshund at April 06, 2011 07:02 PM (iYwUw)

run with it! Beck/Stu '12!

55 Well I'm quite sure the MarxSpewMedia are salivating at the thought of Trump getting lots of early support, losing the GOP primary and going to a 3rd party or running as independent Ross Perot style. We can only hope that if that happens we get a repeat of Reagan/Carter/Anderson. NOTE to squishy GOP folks --we need a Reagan not a George HW Bush to get that result IMO.

56 Here are some things Trump CAN do:

Increase Obama's negatives with all of his talking over the next couple of months.

Give other candidates the courage to speak truthfully and clearly about the situation we are in.

Get people to imagining how it would be if we had a president who didn't actively hate the country.

And (drum roll) get people to imagine a first lady with some class and good taste.

I am waiting for Trump to ask about the scar.  He hasn't touched that one yet,  and I think that issue is every bit as mysterious and important as the birth certificate.

57 Too much mealy-mouthing from all of them except Palin, and she is sitting in her Northern Stronghold probably taking elocution lessons (I hope so, because that is my one complaint about her) So, if she was going to stay in Alaska, why not as its governor? It would look better for her.

58

One more thing, as I am hawt in more ways than one, dudes, the GOP has got to get past their namby-pants ninnyhammer polite crap in only promoting elite Senators or Governors. I voted for Rick Scott in Florida, as what the heck, let's see what a businessman can do for a change with failing budgets and stuff that career politicians promote. When he screws up royally, I will be the first in line to say, "oopsie" but, come on, Bill McConnell is the best the GOP could do? Keep in mind, as well, my little monkeys, Rubio was also the dark horse in this race and I think he rocks and I voted happily and often for him.

The second thing is this: no dang GOP or conservative can freaking nit-pick after the primary is done and on the books in 2012 or I will make your life a living hell. Just freaking get behind whoever this person or kumquat is and vote against Obama. That is (maybe) all.

59 He is NOT a conservative.

So he's just like the rest of the GOP hopefuls. But he doesn't placate, so he's in second place, after doing...nothing. He shit-talked Obama a little. Then he went "Yeah, I said it," instead of groveling.

That's enough, because the rest of the field is ShamWow guys.

60 Sock off.

61 There are at least three people I'd crawl over broken glass to support over Toonces in '12.

Paul Ryan, Col. West, and Akbar the Wonder Llama. Any of those would be a stellar choice over toonces. Trump, not so much. You might as well stick Nanny Bloomburg on the same list with him.

62 I want Triumph the Insult Dog as his VP, and then I want to see Triumph debate Joe Biden.

63

Fuck it. I'm running for President.

I challenge Donald Trump to reveal the secret to his combover. What has he got to hide?

Also, I challenge Sarah Palin to spend a week with me at Sandals Grande Antigua Resort & Spa "debating policy issues".

64 Posted by: iknowtheleft at April 06, 2011 07:05 PM (G/MYk)

yep, well said.

65 66 I want Triumph the Insult Dog as his VP, and then I want to see Triumph debate Joe Biden.

Posted by: Kathysaysso at April 06, 2011 07:05 PM (7nu1g)

I just got a boner. Seriously. In my pants.

66

Mitch Daniels has the experience, resume, conservative principles, gravitas and personal demeanor that would make Obama look small in any debate

He looks like a geriatric cocker spaniel.  Which is why I call him "Bitch Spaniels" even though I like his fiscal performance.

67 I think this time around we (repubs/conservatives) need someone to move the perverbial "Overton Window" drastically to the right.  Trump may not be an all out consevative or win anything, but he may have a crucial role to play in the national debate we have to have in the next election.  GO DONALD! 

68 Still mystified why He is running as a Republican When He was a Hillary supporter.

69

Trump was Democrat, Independent and now registered Republican. Which ever direction the wind blows, He is there.

Get my drift?

70 Triumph the Insult Dog would be a better president.

Plus the Muslims would hate him.

I think anyone on this board (excepting the trolls) would be a better president than Obama.

None of us would sell out allies, refuse to drill for oil, hate on Israel,  or pose with our noses in the air.  And we would not spend money on cowboy poetry and wind turbines and dog parks,  either.

71 There aren't enough 5 hour energy drinks available to revive Fred . He was a huge disappointment. Trump is like a passing fad. He is amusing and fun to watch but no way will he be a serious contender later on.

72 oh and Pelosi supporter.

73

Shit.  Trump is the new McCain?

Is this the guy the MFM is going to pick for us?

'cause that's what seems to happen in our elections.  The GOP ends up running the weakest candidate that the media salivates over.

Time to fight back and tell the GOP and the MFM to shove it and pick our own damned candidate.

74 I'd never vote for Trump, but I fully support his candidacy if he continues to help the more serious candidates by hammering the birth certificate and taking the fire. He can do a lot of good for us as long as you morons don't actually vote for him.

75 Draft Pence. 

76 For Unclefacts

77 Maybe Trump will do a spin on his reality show and the one that is "hired" can be his VP. *sigh*

78 oooo, reruns of the public war with Rosie O'Donnell!

79 If nominated, I will not run; if elected, I will not serve.

80 Fear my double comb over.

81 willow,  he cannot run as a democrat.  They have gone to the moonbat nutty realm and he couldn't win...and with Trump,  the primary thing is winning.  The democrats wouldn't even let him on the ballot.

On the other hand,  with such a blah field on our side,  Trump does have an opportunity.  

One thing is that he is definitely saying things that need to be said.  I wonder what my democrat sister,  who loves Trump as a business expert (she is a real fan of the apprentice) thinks?

82 He's fine as a stalking horse.

But he's not the guy you want to see get the job.

83 I still am looking for a candidate like Bobby Jindal, who has a brain in his head and knows how to run a State and handle a budget.

84 It's a false flag operation.  Has everybody read that article reminding us that Trump congratulated San Fran Nan and told her she was the best?  If sitting on a couch with that anal fissure disqualifies Newt, Trump is DOA.

85 Trump is Bloombreg.

86

Ryan/Rubio 2012.

Imagine Ryan debating The Won on the economy. Rubio debating Joe on anything (heck, I could debate Joe). The two of them would clean their clocks, sweep them out, and sew this up, and bring back American "exceptionalism" which, I think, Rubio coined. Yet...they "don't have experience." Whether they want the job is another story, but a girl can dream.

87

It's all downhill from here.

Wednesday is the day that the paypal transfers clear into Ace's bank account.

By Friday afternoon, he'll be fully dehydrated and out of cocaine again. The past 36 hours a blur, his pelt matted with vomit and feces - some his own.   

His need for sleep will be great, but not as great as his need to feed...come Saturday morning he'll barely have enough money to buy a ticket to see the $5 matinee of  'The Adjustment Bureau'.   But he will have a shopping cart filled with aluminum cans, newspaper and the mismatched shoes of a Hobo to barter for his large Popcorn and medium Sprite at the concession stand.  

On Sunday, he'll find an attractive pile of trash in which to sew his seed.  Once again, he'll rest needing only to tan the Hobo hide from this weekend's hunt to complete another week. 

He will greet us no later than noon on Monday when the cycle starts anew.

88 i like trump at least he won't give a fuck if he gets  re-elected and will do what he says and so far what he says i like. this world is going to change were no one will recognize it by the time the marxist in chief finishes his first term. and the fucking dems are not going to change one thing in the next 2 years.

89 Trump/Immelt 2012!

90 Miss Marple , alright, that sheds some light, Thank you for response.

91 Trump/Ventura 2012

92

Wow and I thought being scared of a Palin/Huckabee candidacy was bad enough, I'd have either of those two over Trump. but then again I don't buy Trump running as something he's serious about and of course polls at this time going into the 08 cycle had the eventual outcome wrong

93 I bet McCain would not have played any golf if he had won...

94 Trump/Huffington 2012!

95 The only good thing about Trump is the direction he has driven the debate. He may actually force the real GOP candidates to show some balls for once.

96 um.  Trump.  really?  What else has this blog got?

97 99 I bet McCain would not have played any golf if he had won...

Posted by: KZnextzone at April 06, 2011 07:18 PM (ZUWaD)

Wouldn't have been punched in the face playing hoops either...

98 Don't like Trump?  Hell, I'd vote for Lamb-Chops over Dear Leader.

99 Trump/Sheen 2102: You're winner!

100 Here is the secret to why Trump is popular.

All over the country,  people are thinking "Why won't he release the birth certificate?  Why are we not drilling for oil?  What in the hell is going on overseas?  Why do we owe all of this money to China?"

So,  on comes Palenty,  who says "I believe that the president was born in the US."  Or Huckabee comes on and talks about how he has some things in common with liberals,  as surprised as they might be.  Or Gingrich shows up and everyone remembers him on the couch with Pelosi.

And then Trump comes on,   and he is the ONLY one talking about what that guy on the couch was wondering about.

101

Peoples, it is early. The Donald could be the canary-comb-over in the coal mines. Maybe he is doing this for Hillary. Heaven knows. I simply don't care ,as I am glad he is stirring things up.

Mitch Daniels, Pawlenty, whoever, are fine with me. I could hold my nose and vote for anyone at this point. Do I flipping want a conservative as first choice? You bet your boots.I also have prayed for someone who the majority of Americans can willingly want to support and beat the pants off of Obama. But I am a realist and will vote for anyone at this point in time. Obama simply cannot serve another term or we will never pull out of this nose dive to hell and third-world status.

102

He is running for Governor.

unfortunetly, I was gonna back him all the way then when he dropped out I was left with a half-hearted support of Christie and now that it seems he's serious about not running I can't even muster to vote in straw polls. I might sit out the primaries at this point, no candidate excites me at all.

103 In other important news, the One Millionth Prius has been sold!!1!!  And it's an event!!!11!!1!

104 O/T:  John Edwards is too pretty for prison.  Would rather leave a good looking corpse than wear an orange jumpsuit.  Per Drudge...

105 If anyone has an eye for pretty men, it's Matt Drudge.

106  Draft Pence. 

Posted by: Y-not at April 06, 2011 07:10 PM (pW2o

He is running for Governor.

Posted by: Jackwagon at April 06, 2011 07:22 PM (qjUnn)

 

Well, then, kidnap Pence and make him run.

107 @108
I know... hence the requirement to draft him.

Daniels is toast.  He should step out of Pence's way. 

As much as we all go on and on about executive experience, the fact of the matter is that we need someone who is going to motivate enough of the segments of our party, be conservative enough to really appeal to the base, be unscary enough to pull a few moderates, have minimal negatives, and have demonstrated the ability to work for the people. I think that's Pence.

Daniels is too quick to criticize his own party and has completely mishandled his wayward legislators.  He's a technocrat, not a leader. 

108

John Edwards is too pretty for prison.  Would rather leave a good looking corpse than wear an orange jumpsuit. 

Why didn't you come to me like a fucking man and tell me the jumpsuits would be orange!?  You know I'm a Spring!  I look terrible in Orange.

109 >>So, on comes Palenty, who says "I believe that the president was born in the US." Which is exactly the danger of Trump. The MSM loves to have a prominent Republican candidate doing the birther bit. It allows them to put every other Republican candidate on the spot by asking them if they agree. The birther issue may be popular with a certain segment of the right, it is not popular with most of the country. There is so much substance to attack Obama on, wasting time with the birther issue is a loser.

110 Posted by: Truman North at April 06, 2011 07:11 PM (8ay4x)

lawl

111 Posted by: JudyM at April 06, 2011 07:00 PM (nn+iV) The budget is Obama's Achilles heel. So, let's pick a guy who can't attack Obama, because he was Bush's budget director. That he is short and bald, and the taller candidate wins 90% of the time is even better.

112 We do not even know he is a Republican. He has said he was pretty liberal in the past. I'm still waiting for Palin to jump in. She is in the backgorund of these polls because she has been quiet but her announcement will change the game.

113 I'm doing hands-only CPR on my penis.  I'd use my mouth too, but I still have to eat dinner.

114

I'm still waiting for Palin to jump in. _{^{She is in the backgorund of these polls because she has been quiet but her announcement will change the game.}}

Really?  Who'd have fucking guessed?

115

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at April 06, 2011 07:28 PM (c5RQr)

4 more years of Obama here we come...

116 ...among other reasons

117

Mitch Daniels John McCain has the experience, resume, conservative principles, gravitas and personal demeanor that would make Obama look small in any debate.  I wish he'd get into the race.  His candidacy would strike true fear into the hearts of Democrats.

Rinse, spit, repeat. Has the GOP learned nothing over the last few years decades?

118 Boner experience forced  that would I like.

119 The birther issue may be popular with a certain segment of the right, it is not popular with most of the country. 43% of the country flat out doesn't believe Obama is an American citizen. Another 23% isn't sure. Only a small percentage actually believe he is qualified by our Constitution to be president. Those numbers are about the same when you poll on whether Obama is a Muslim. His reelection ads right now don't even have him in them, but instead have a diverse group saying they don't totally hate his guts and find him likable and "trustworthy."

120 119 The budget is Obama's Achilles heel. So, let's pick a guy who can't attack Obama, because he was Bush's budget director. That he is short and bald, and the taller candidate wins 90% of the time is even better.     What he said.

121 Trump?  Gingrich?  Huckabee?  Romney?  Paul?

Is this the Republican party or the Jurassic party?

122 Sure, we'll take Trump.  And his money.

123 OT resident Obama's close friend arrested during prostitution sting

HONOLULU (HawaiiNewsNow) - One of President Obama's closest friends is scheduled to appear at Honolulu District Court next month, after he allegedly solicited sex from an undercover officer posing as a prostitute.

Police arrested Robert Richard Titcomb, 49, of Waialua on suspicion of prostitution Monday night.  He allegedly offered money for sex near the intersection of South Street and Pohukaina Street at about 9:40 PM.

Titcomb and the President have been close friends since high school.  The two are frequently seen golfing and dining together when the Obama family visits Hawaii. http://tinyurl.com/3tb9dq7

124 Great, we're the party of fuckups. (sorry for the profanity, but seriously, Donald Trump?)

125

Posted by: Jackwagon at April 06, 2011 07:32 PM (qjUnn)

your lucky to have Pence, on Daniels you're absolutely right but his reaction to the flebaggers left a bad taste in a lot of GOP voters' mouth and of course the charisma problem, which like it or not is something needed in a candidate these days.

we got Scott down here in FL after the Crist meltdown, so far Scott's been pretty damn impressive and I didn't vote for the guy (relax folks, I didn't vote Dem either). He's gone from starting out 50/50 w/ horrible favorables to the state warming up to him.

126

the community agitator vs Trump,  I'd vote Trump

the community agitator vs Huckabee/Palin/Romney/any repub,   I'd vote repub

the community agitator vs a cactus plant,   I'd vote the cactus plant

127 That Edwards fella's got a mighty purty mouth.

128

The President is only one man, and a lot rides on his cabinet and their advice. In Dear Leader's case, he only rides, & it remains to be seen who or of what persuasion.

His fab cabinet and czars are made up of donors, people he owes for bundling his probable illegal funding to get him where he is, and socialists who will help him bring us down to third-world status. This is the center of why this administration is the worst and most horrific in American history. God help us all.

129 >>43% of the country flat out doesn't believe Obama is an American citizen. Another 23% isn't sure. Only a small percentage actually believe he is qualified by our Constitution to be president. Post the poll please. I know that a slim majority of Republican primary voters in the latest PPP poll think he was not born in America (51%) but the last national poll (CNN) I saw of the population at large had the percentage at 23%.

130
<sup>#132 Trump?  Gingrich?  Huckabee?  Romney?  Paul?

Is this the Republican party or the Jurassic party?</sup>

More like the Obama Inauguration party.

131 haha "Titcomb"

132

OT: Reid's latest hissy fit

133 It's funny Gerg doesn't come in to de-bunk this poll.

134

Ryan/West in 2012

Going to the bench early.    

135

Trump has a big mouth, knows how  to talk and bullshit on his feet, is glib and not afraid to go into the lion's den (liars den?) such as appearing on "The View"and tell off those idiots. Only Huckabee is close to him in sptaneous glibness, and if I had to choose between Huckabee and Trump, well, that is easy.

Fearless?  I don't know, but he feels he has nothing to lose.  Is he sincere?  I don't know.  Is he a trojan horse for the Democrats to poison the Republican primary race?

How could the Republican primaries get worse?  Huckabee SECOND?

That should bother people a lot more than Trump. At least Trump knows the value of a dollar and won't go all in for some Socialist -collectivist scam such as Obamacare.

Trump was a Democrat? Reagan was a Democrat too, at one time.  He didn't leave the party, "the party left me."

136 Posted by: Jackwagon at April 06, 2011 07:32 PM

I lived in Indiana during the first part of Daniels' term.  I recall how leaderly he was over the DST battle. It was a joke.  The results were a joke. 

When Daniels is faced with opposition he does not know how to handle it.  He emboldened the Dems by criticizing his own party legislators publicly.  Stupid stupid.  He didn't get his agenda pushed through and he allowed the minority party to hold his entire legislature hostage.  Has his education reform passed yet? 

The contrast between Walker and Daniels - or even Christie and Daniels - has not helped draw support to Mitch.  He's losing ground to Pawlenty, for pity's sake. 

137 Let me give it another go. This time I'll kick his ass.

138 Second comes after first!

139 CNN polls? I got me a Skittle Shitting Unicorn too. Wanna see it?

140 haha Titcomb, what a stupid name

141 Hell, I'd vote for Lamb-Chops over Dear Leader.
And at least the hand up my ass isn't Soros's!

142
White House in 2012?

We better make sure we can keep the House in 2012.

This path the GOP is on, it sucks, it stinks, and it sucks.

143 Guy @ #134, thanks for the Titcomb BFF link. Appropriate name for a male prostitute. This is unprecedented.

144 Stop. Daniels is 5'2" in high heels

145 Trump has always possessed the number one quality required for success----

a rich old man.

146

146 Ryan/West in 2012

Going to the bench early.    

 

How is Ryan going to lead the budget debate and run for president simultaneously? Also, being a policy person, he's far better suited to VP.

_{/Speaking of Ryan, the Budget Comm. has certainly earned their pay today with their mark-up of the budget bill.}

147

Trump was a Democrat? Reagan was a Democrat too, at one time.  He didn't leave the party, "the party left me."

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at April 06, 2011 07:38 PM (sJTmU)

Nice try at dodging the issue but I'm not buying it. Reagan spent years earning cred in the Republican party and now since Trump is instantaneously a Republican it means he is now conservative like Reagan. uh huh, sure.

148 Well, if trump did win we could jerkoff to pictures of the first lady

149 um. Trump. really? What else has this blog got? Posted by: Truman North at April 06, 2011 07:20 PM (8ay4x) Huntsman sharply criticized China on human rights abuses today, specifically citing Nobel prize winner Liu Xiaobo, artist Ai Weiwei and Feng Xue, an American geologist who was gathering information on the oil industry and accused of stealing state secrets being detained and imprisoned by the government. Next to Ryan revealing his budget and Slate endorsing the idea, that's the best news to come from the GOP today. Blogs are covering Ryan, but he's not running for president in 2012.

150 146

Ryan/West in 2012

Going to the bench early.    

Posted by: Beagle at April 06, 2011 07:38 PM (sOtz/)

You could run that ticket backwards or forwards, and it's still a winner.

151 PAWLENTY!!!!

152 Lets' see.
Obama declared candidacy in Feb '07
Hillary in Jan'07
McCain Mar '07
Romney Feb '07
Huckabee Jan '07
Edwards Dec '06!!!????

And here we are in April....
And officially we got.
Obama
and
?????

WTFGOP???!!!

Time to get this show on the road! We are chomping at the bit arguing over speculative might runs.
How are we supposed to debate "my non-candidate is better than your non-candidate"??
How are we supposed to get fired up chanting

"???? ???? ???? ???? !!!!!"

Time to defecate or leave the privy.

153

Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-dem at April 06, 2011 07:35 PM (ACkhT)

True for me too, the question is who will those damn squishy indies vote for?

I dont think anyone could have beat Obama in 08.  NOBODY.

disagree, yes Obama was the fav to win and yes there was a recession and unpopular President hanging around our necks, but yet Mac who ran one of the worst campaigns I've seen got 48% of the vote, almost half the states, and put up a Hell of a fight in swing states like FL & OH, and even won the usual bellwhether of MO. Plus, until the financial meltdown that lead to palin being pushed out of the spotlight to allow her to defend herself, Mac's inconsistent message on why to vote against Obama, and so on and so forth of Mac's many mistakes- Obama was losing to Mac after a pretty damn good RNC (albeit the last day was a downer) that broke TV ratings for a convention watched-more then Obama's stadium filled w/ zombies telecast.

Polls clearly showed that had the GOP turnout and the moderates in the GOP not given Obama a chance (not a majority but a good portion of moderate GOP leaning voters went to Obama), Obama would have lost in a close one (to be fair who's not to say he may have still pulled it out, margin of fraud and all). In the end, Obama was much more beatable then he should have been in that bad a GOP year but the GOP was unexcited and Mac didn't fight hard enough. It will be diff. in 2012

154 I think Mrs. Palin will have something to say about this before it is over.

155 This helps Palin the most.

156 Dumb, sure, but anything that reduces the odds of me having to feel dirty for the rest of my life because I had to pull the lever for Huckabee, is ok by me...

157 The stimulus wasn't big enough.  And I'm in favor of cap and trade legislation because I believe in AGW.

158 This is what I have promised myself. If Donald Trump ends up being the GOP nominee, I will conclude this country does deserve what it gets and I will vote for OBAMA. (then i will throw up)

159 a diverse group saying they don't totally hate his guts and find him likable and "trustworthy."

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 06, 2011 07:33 PM (mHQ7T)

You know, he's a clueless socialist who is bankrupting us domestically and embarrassing us abroad.  He doesn't know a thing about business, he's friends with criminals, and he's ashamed of America.

But you know, he's got a really good short game.  I think I'm going to stick with Obama.

160 I wasn't too thrilled with the idea of Trump getting into this. I didn't think he was going to really address the real nuts and bolts of just what the fuck is going wrong, but wow is he. Personally, I want  a pro USA radical for a change to come out swinging and punch the leftist anti American radicals right in the fucking nuts. Trump seems to be the closest thing next to Palin.

161

106, 107 True and true. (and please, dear Lord...let him not be the actual person to run)

Whoever runs against the unicorn man is going to have to have the heart of a lion...it will be a potential career ender: either the campaign or the presidency or both, and yet we can't afford to not have that person step forward.  If Puttz McGee wins again the nation is done for; it's up in the air right now.

162

What we really need are more no-chance, unelectable candidates engaging in a vanity run out of their belief that no venue could possibly be complete without the awesome awesomeness of their presence and completely unique platform.

I mean, we only have Trump, Bachmann, Gingrich, Ron Paul, and Cain so far.  It would be a shame if the nominee had to get more than 10% of the vote in any given state to win it.  Besides, they should only need 10 seconds each to answer a debate question; any more and there wouldn't be time for all 18 candidates to have a fair chance to resond.

163 161 - well, I already.... you know what? not worth it. I mean, that's not even funny.. ggbblleeghh.

164 Trump is my race hoss. He won't get the nomination, but he can repeatedly cock-punch Obama and dance away from the counterpunches. That's what you fuckin' jamokes just don't get - PALIN CAN'T DO THAT. If Palin comes out on the attack, there'll be gallons of ink spilled and airtime filled with what an ignorant hick bitch she is and nothing of what the substance of her attack is. You don't like him? Grow the fuck up. HE IS A MEDIA DARLING - USE HIM AS LONG AS HE'LL LET YOU. What are they going to do? Attack Donald Trump? Good luck woith that. You know what happens when you stare into the abyss? Donald Trump's hair leaps out of the darkness, latches onto your face, and sucks out your innocence. Get on board the Trump train at least until the primaries or so help me God I will strike every last one of you bastards from the Protected Rolls. You will NOT ruin my entertainment.

165
Things nobody gives a shit about

Anything that is happening outside of our borders.

In 2012 it will be about the economy, gas prices, jobs, and debt.

Oh, and ending all military operations in Trashcanistan.

166 Looks like the GOP is dead in the water for 2012. David Frum has said Ryan's budget will kill them. All hope is lost!!

167

Posted by: Jackwagon at April 06, 2011 07:41 PM (qjUnn)

I'm confused, did you not see him say the Indiana flebaggers we're okay doing what they did?

Posted by: McJerkoff at April 06, 2011 07:39 PM (gJNMj)

not to piss off all the Mac haters here, but I think he'd win this time around bad campaign and all-but no I'm not calling for him to run, just saying

168 True-- Trump doesn't play west of the Hudson.  He will die before he gets to Super Tuesday.

169 178, Don't you have someone to think about raping?

170 I wasn't too thrilled with the idea of Trump getting into this. I didn't think he was going to really address the real nuts and bolts of just what the fuck is going wrong, but wow is he. Personally, I want  a pro USA radical for a change to come out swinging and punch the leftist anti American radicals right in the fucking nuts. Trump seems to be the closest thing next to Palin.

Posted by: Berserker at April 06, 2011 07:46 PM (gWHrG)

Trump congratulated San Fran Nan and told her she was the best.

Please share with me whatever drug you are ingesting.

171 Did... Did Fred Thompson just order red wine with his fish at his own fundraising dinner...?!?!  OMG HIS CANDIDACY IS OVER!!

172

How is Ryan going to lead the budget debate and run for president simultaneously? Also, being a policy person, he's far better suited to VP.

_{/Speaking of Ryan, the Budget Comm. has certainly earned their pay today with their mark-up of the budget bill.}

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 06, 2011 07:42 PM (UO6+e)

See what you did there?  With Ryan knocking it out of the park on the facts and numbers on the issue which concerns Americans the most, that is running for president, without running.  I feel the main thing people are looking for in 2012 is a guy who can get in the weeds of the budget and pull out the particularly noxious ones.  Thrilling non-specific oratory not so much this time.    

173 152 haha Titcomb, what a stupid name

Posted by: Reince Priebus at April 06, 2011 07:40 PM (8ay4x)

did you see the picture of the skank liberal Ace posted on the wisconsin supreme court election thread? did you think that hair stopped on her head? titcomb takes on a whole new meaning now doesn't it.

good luck gettin that image outta your skulls.

174 Miss Marple, in addition to finding out about the large undocumented scar on the back of Dear Leader's regal head, could you please find out the sex of the prostitute his BFF Titcomb solicited in Hawaii? Thanks. Much appreciated.

175 My sacred honor requires me to say that The Donald held me tenderly and whispered sweet, sweet words...

176
for fuck's sake gas is $3.60/gal and China, Cuba, and Brazil are reenacting the straw scene in There Will Be Blood on us.

177 We are effed anyway. Might as well elect Trump. What, he'd be worse than Obama?

178 Don't you fuckers remember when the teal estate crash back in the late 80's - early 90's crushed the Japs forever ( movie studios, Gulfstream Park) ?  They were buying all kinds of shit.  Trump almost went tits up, too. He should have, but they didn't know what to do with all his useless investments.

But I will still vote for him. I love stupid senseless gestures. We are all boned anyway, why not enjoy it? 

179

178  Wow...Jeff and I actually agree on something...

...but he'd just better not get the nomination...that would be very, very bad

180

Obama's latest:

I do believe that at a certain point, you've pumped enough Gas...

 

181

Posted by: YRM (Not Very Optimistic Of The Future) at April 06, 2011 07:44 PM (RmjCD)

I was such a loyal lifelong dem until 2008, hell I even voted for Howard Dean to get the most competitive candidate to oust Bush -- and yes I was an idiot-- independents tend to be socially centerist, libetarien, but very consitututional conservative. Anyone who fits that bill gets the vote.

182

""Trump congratulated San Fran Nan and told her she was the best.

Please share with me whatever drug you are ingesting.""


I wasn't saying I wanted him as president, all I'm saying is I expected him to be just another bag of hot air, but basically like empire of jeff said, if he's crushing obama's nuts with a sledgehammer, and STARTING the fucking dialog, more power to him.

183 Nobody's gonna vote for Trump.  His last name is too weird.

184 Good God.  Trump?  You sluts are easy.  Is he a Republican?  How can you tell?

"Congrats, Nancy Pelosi, you're the best."

185 Get on board the Trump train at least until the primaries or so help me God I will strike every last one of you bastards from the Protected Rolls. You will NOT ruin my entertainment.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 06, 2011 07:46 PM (PgmR7)

I'd rape him if he dresses slutty.   And I agree with all of that.   When he started talking about conquering nations for their oil...  Mmmm... Bunk.     

186

Nice try at dodging the issue but I'm not buying it. Reagan spent years earning cred in the Republican party and now since Trump is instantaneously a Republican it means he is now conservative like Reagan. uh huh, sure.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka

 

Nice try, junior, but I remember watching Reagan campaign for Goldwater, so don't try teaching your Daddy to suck eggs.

Republicans may nominate whoever they wish, but the general election is going to go to whomever wins the most electoral votes, which means winning a lot of states.  Alone, the Republicans don't have the votes to win the election. They have to capture a portion of the middle.  Who can do that?

Trump may not be your "brand" of Republican, but it is just possible that he may win a national election IF (a big if) he wins the primaries and is strong going into the general election. That's a long road to hoe.

Trump isn't my brand of Republican either, but it is also a question of winning.  Somebody has to win, it's not about purity or avoiding losing.  Somebody has to go out and WIN.

 Dear Sarah has too many negatives, period.  She's a find lady, but she could not win the general election. Two years as governor of Alaska and mayor of Wasilla. Really?  I'd vote for her if she was the Republican running against Obama, but she won't get that far.

187 oh, and I'm a registered indie, perhaps the "squishy" kind, but I rather doubt it, like I said I would vote for a cactus plant over the fraud.

188 178, Don't you have someone to think about raping? I just left the gym so I'm slap wore out, but if you're volunteerin', I wouldn't turn down a beejer.

189 Posted by: JackStraw at April 06, 2011 07:36 PM (TMB3S) You're right. I confused the Republican numbers with the general population or confused the PPP poll with the CNN poll. The number 43 was stuck in my head.

190

Who else do we have?

Christie isn't running. Ryan isn't running. Daniels has shown himself to be a squish. Palin and Bachmann probably can't win. Pawlenty's a milquetoast, Romney's a big-gvoernment moderate, and Huckabee is a nice guy Christian in the mold of W., who will lead with his heart and not his head. Ron Paul is nuts.

As Monty notes every day, we're doomed. We need a person of action to help fight our huge structural financial problems. Trump is famous for never having a meeting longer than 5 minutes, whereas the Won has voted present for more than 2 years. I think Trump's a patriot who will both respect our military while disentagnling us from some of the nonproductive crap we're doing now. Trump is energetic and decisive--I like that. He may be socially moderate or liberal, but he strikes me as a Christie type--he's not so dogmatic about his social beliefs that they'll affect his fiscal decisions.

The birther stuff is a distraction, but I admire his cojones for bringing it up. Can you imagine any of these other cowards bringing it up? Can you imagine the sensation if Trump shows up at a debate and drops a parcel on the podium: "There's my birth certficate, complete medical records, college transcripts, passport information, social security information, etc. I've shown you mine, now you show me yours."

People respond to charisma; that's how we ended up with the current dope in chief. Do any of the Republican contenders (who are actually running) besides Bachmann and Palin have charisma in any measurable quantity?

191 Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 06, 2011 07:54 PM (PgmR7) EoJ you fucking slay me.

192

Posted by: Jackwagon at April 06, 2011 07:51 PM (qjUnn)

well hopefully i'm not being called McJerkoff but if this is true that you say I must research this more, I will look into it and If true I apologize for saying such

Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-dem at April 06, 2011 07:52 PM (ACkhT)

but indies are also squishy and are the type to just throw their hands in the air and call people extreme and just let the incumbent get a pass

193 Ask for a rich weiner, get a rick steiner...

194 111 O/T:  John Edwards is too pretty for prison.  Would rather leave a good looking corpse than wear an orange jumpsuit.  Per Drudge...     My Little Pony should hurry up and get fitted for one of those mouth ball things from Pulp Fiction infamy.

195 For all his faults, Trump has the benefit of being the only GOP supposedly running who sounds like a strong leader rather than a strong excuse maker.  Folks are looking for someone who isn't afraid to lead, or at bare minimum speak like a leader. 

Bubbas all over are NOT looking to follow another member of the GOP Losership.  Been there, done that last election... 

This isn't to say Trump is the best candidate of the lot -- he's got lots of flaws. 

The lesson here is the rest of the GOP WannabePres crowd needs to start acting and speaking like unabashed leaders, someone not afraid to speak and think out of the box, not afraid of common sense observations, and most definately NOT the next finely tuned top dog of the GOP Losership. 

196

186 See what you did there?  With Ryan knocking it out of the park on the facts and numbers on the issue which concerns Americans the most, that is running for president, without running.  I feel the main thing people are looking for in 2012 is a guy who can get in the weeds of the budget and pull out the particularly noxious ones.  Thrilling non-specific oratory not so much this time.    

That suggestion is going around the parts of the blogosphere; I just don't know if it works outside of the blogosphere. Then there's the fact that Ryan has stated he won't run for president and it still seems to me that VP better-suits his skill-set. So I will endorse him for VP, but I'd like to see where this debate goes before committing further.

197

Posted by: Palandine at April 06, 2011 07:54 PM (g7D8V)

i'd argue if Christie runs he obv does, but i've come to think he's not running. Romney kinda does have some charisma (and look at that hair/sarc); Palin has charisma, Bachmann comes off goofy to me. Neither I think can win the general. either way i'm pissed w/ the choices we have.

198 Paul Ryan would be the handsomest president since Millard Fillmore.

199

isn't this just lovely?  Maybe Trump can cover this and bash the community organizer some more

"Reporting from Baghdad, Iraq yesterday, NBCÂ’s Tom Brokaw said the Saudi Arabian monarchy is “so unhappy with the Obama administration for the way it pushed out President Mubarak of Egypt” that it has sent senior officials to the Peoples' Republic of China and Russia to seek expanded business opportunities with those countries."

at cnsnews dot come

200

200 Get on board the Trump train at least until the primaries or so help me God I will strike every last one of you bastards from the Protected Rolls. You will NOT ruin my entertainment.

Amen, Jeff. You tell them. I am ready to kick @$$ and ask questions later, and I am a girl. We will defeat Obammy even if it means voting for dead polar bears or a cactus. I'm in.

201 Trump is a businessman, from what I can tell, a damn good one. Everybody bitches about not having someone outside the beltway. Everybody bitches that the pols are stupid and just don't get it. Boys and Girls, the Donald gets it. Is he a scumbag? yep. But he is an American that believes in America. He fucking hates Nancy Pelosi, but when you are a business man, it is wise to kiss the speaker of the house's ass. I agree mostly with Empire of Jeff.

202 When are the Republicans going to stop pimping eastern RINOs and biblethumpers?

203 199 Good God.  Trump?  You sluts are easy.  Is he a Republican?  How can you tell?

"Congrats, Nancy Pelosi, you're the best."

Posted by: FUBAR at April 06, 2011 07:53 PM (McG46)

Maybe Nancy's Grand father was the habberdasher that created Trump's blonde squirrel tail lace wig /comb-over combo...

204 so help me God I will strike every last one of you bastards from the Protected Rolls. You will NOT ruin my entertainment.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 06, 2011 07:46 PM (PgmR7)

damn, you don't even offer dinner or anything.

205

Dear Sarah has too many negatives, period.  She's a find lady, but she could not win the general election. Two years as governor of Alaska and mayor of Wasilla. Really?  I'd vote for her if she was the Republican running against Obama, but she won't get that far.

I agree, now watch the Palin fans acusse you of sexism and RINOism

206

When are the Republicans going to stop pimping eastern RINOs and biblethumpers?

Posted by: Kristopher at April 06, 2011 07:59 PM (atS82)

THIS

207

Nice try, junior, but I remember watching Reagan campaign for Goldwater, so don't try teaching your Daddy to suck eggs.................

 Dear Sarah has too many negatives, period.  She's a find lady, but she could not win the general election. Two years as governor of Alaska and mayor of Wasilla. Really?  I'd vote for her if she was the Republican running against Obama, but she won't get that far.

========================

Goldwater's election campaign was in 1964. Reagans first Pres campaign was in... 1976. Reagan spent years building up GOP cred to run. And how long has the donald been a Republican......? Ummm, a couple of months it seems.

Sarah does not have to many negatives. They are made up. But dont worry I'm sure Trump has no skeletons whatsoever. Keep deluding yourself though and you still wont be able to the forest for the trees.

208 He fucking hates Nancy Pelosi, but when you are a business man, it is wise to kiss the speaker of the house's ass not get attached to your principles.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at April 06, 2011 07:59 PM (cDRYC)

FIFY

209
If you're gonna do a post about Trump, you need to include the vid with his hair trying to start "the wave" during Monday Night Football.

this is the funniest :17 vid about hair flapping in the wind you'll ever see

210

Posted by: Truman North at April 06, 2011 07:58 PM (8ay4x)

nation could have done w/o Fillmore, it needs Ryan

211

but indies are also squishy and are the type to just throw their hands in the air and call people extreme and just let the incumbent get a pass

 

Not this freaking incumbent, not this freaking indie...Puttz has got to go!

I would prefer somebody in the mold of a modern day Washington, but right now the dead possum that was roadkill in front of my house last month still looks better in the ovoid place of presidential business...couldn't do any worse, might be better even.

I'm not cool with Trump for serious, but if he can keep it up with blasting Putt-putt, then by all means he should continue to do so. (just please don't let him actually win the nomination....it would be bad, very bad)

212 I see that the C4P site is now going after Trump.  I like Palin, I do, but she has no chance of winning in my opinion. I might be wrong, but if people see Trump vs Obama, they will vote Trump, Palin vs Obama, Obama will continue ot be the community organizer in chief. 

213

Damn some of you guys are whores. Trump says a few things about the bc and you go crazy.

 

btw ace, when are we having a thread on teh one's reaction to gas prices.

214 How many times has Trump filed for bankruptcy?  I'll bet no one can tell me.

215 Oh, wait, no.  Paul Ryan will be the handsomest president since Jeb Bartlett.

216

Posted by: Jackwagon at April 06, 2011 08:03 PM (qjUnn)

yeah I back you up on that, the guy has a coibservative record even if he did (or didn't) credit the fleebaggers, that said does he have charisma? it's sad to say but it could decide the election

217

but I'd like to see where this debate goes before committing further.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 06, 2011 07:57 PM (UO6+e)

I could go for Palin-Noem in 2012.  Perhaps I shouldn't say any more.  

218 Because it wasn't mentioned, you just know the sex of Titcomb's "date" 

219 he stimulus wasn't big enough. And I'm in favor of cap and trade legislation because I believe in AGW. Posted by: John Huntsman at April 06, 2011 07:45 PM (8ay4x) He didn't pass Romneycare, free any cop killers, shut down the government and cheat on his wife or call for a truce with social conservatives (aka tell them to sit down and shut the fuck up.) He has a good record as Governor of Utah. I like him.

220

"but indies are also squishy and are the type to just throw their hands in the air and call people extreme and just let the incumbent get a pass"

maybe in the past, I doubt this is the case anymore, if you can get a Howard Dean voting dem-turned-indie to vote for a cactus plant over the fraud, independents aren't as squishy as people might think.

221

Posted by: YRM (Not Very Optimistic Of The Future) at April 06, 2011 07:57 PM (RmjCD)

Christie is the wild card. I believe he wants to but he's just testing the waters right now.

222
btw, anybody here a history buff?

The Republicans gained 55 seats and took the House in the 1946 midterms. In 1948, the Democrats came back with a vengance and took back 75 seats and Truman narrowly won a full term in the White House. How did that happen?

223 231 How many times has Trump filed for bankruptcy?  I'll bet no one can tell me.

Posted by: FUBAR at April 06, 2011 08:04 PM (McG46)

All of them

224 214 Paul Ryan would be the handsomest president since Millard Fillmore.

I'm a Ryan fan-- as you know-- but I had to LOL. Even with the new haircut, he still looks Elven.

225 Careful Jeff, if you let a man blow you your gay, it doesn't matter which side of the dick your on. But of course, if you choose that lifestyle, there's nothing wrong with that.

226 Goldwater's election campaign was in 1964. Reagans first Pres campaign was in... 1976.

Psst....not really.  He was a late charger against Tricky Dick in 1968.

Yes, my friends, think about how things might have been different.

227 but I'd like to see where this debate goes before committing further.

That would require someone from our side... Acutally officially announcing candidacy.

228 Get on board the Trump train at least until the primaries or so help me God I will strike every last one of you bastards from the Protected Rolls. You will NOT ruin my entertainment.

Okay, I'm in. Can't fight the Empire of Jeff (at least until Sarah's in).

229

Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-dem at April 06, 2011 08:03 PM (ACkhT)

C4P would kiss the woman's ass if she asked them to, as would all the fanboys of the others (Hugh and Romney?); I's rather look at 3 things - 1. can they excite the base? 2. can they win the general? 3. can they be true conservatives?

sadly basically everyone on the list fails all 3, hopefully i'm wrong after all the MSM won;t mention that less then 50% of Presidents have been re-elected and there hasn't been 3 straight 2 termers since 1801-1825

230 Rep. Lankford tweeted that they have been marking the budget bill since 10:30am and will likely be there until midnight.

231

When are the Republicans going to stop pimping eastern RINOs and biblethumpers?
 

They are hanging on to the old thinking, grieving, and it is hard for them to accept.

 

I do think they are waking up, or be gone forever.

232 I see that the C4P site is now going after Trump. Trump is saying what even Cuda is afraid to say, and it diminishes her pitt bull / mama grizzly / whatever redneck animal she is this year image as a fighter.

233 224, If your looking for Jesus in a Brooks Brothers suit, He aint showin.

234

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 06, 2011 08:06 PM (7utQ2)

true Reagan first ran in 1968 not 1976, some folks here need to read up their History before they start talking

235
This poll illuminates the dilemma that the majority
of those who identify as Republican are morons

236 But of course, if you choose that lifestyle, there's nothing wrong with that.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at April 06, 2011 08:06 PM (cDRYC)

I'm guessing the lifestyle you're talking about isn't the Take-A-Hummer-Any-Time-It's-Offered Lifestyle.

237

yrm sexist, rhino!

feel better now?

no I think you're right, Palin can't win at this moment, who knows what the future brings, too many of our own won't vote for her. bastids.

srsly we need someone tough and not afraid to fight back, Really fiscally  knowledgeable and have a plan he'she can say calmly and thoroughly , steady and at least slightly attractive. (american idol still exists for some)

i'm really hoping Pence/Ryan  with a side of military expert ,maybe west type someone that is already out there will change their mind and run.

but i'll vote almost any gop   not _{^{ronpaulthosorry}}

238 And all he'd accomplish by doing that is helping Obama win.

People that help Obama win get a payoff.

239

Paul Ryan is a brilliant and hard working guy.  I wish he would run.  I'd crawl over broken glass for him.  But he's not running. Period.  He said so, and unless he is drafted in a brokered party convention (which hasn't happened in  LONG TIME), he will not be the Presidential nominee for the Republicans.

Also beware of the madness that is Ron Paul.  If he runs as an independent, he'll have JESSE VENTURA as his running mate.  Ventura has been talking this up on the talking head shows the last few days, and while it is the madness of Jesse, who knows what is going on behind the scenes?  And Ron Paul as an independent is the prescription for Obama getting re-elected.  He only has to peel off 4-5% of the Republican/Independent vote to hand the re-election to Obama.

If this election is total bullshit, which is the way it is starting to look, then why not have a major league bullshitter in Donald Trump? If the Republicans hold the House and capture the Senate, the real power will be in the Congress anyways.  Most of the Party stalwarts will never trust Trump, but you never know.

240 Good God.  Trump?  You sluts are easy.  Is he a Republican?  How can you tell? "Congrats, Nancy Pelosi, you're the best." Posted by: FUBAR at April 06, 2011 07:53 PM (McG46) Dude, Teh Ronald was personally very friendly with Tip O'Neill. Remember what a piece of shit that guy was? So Trump shmoozes. He's a billionaire RE developer. Think he's not familiar with the taste of ass? Remember what Winston Churchill said, "When you're going to kill a man, it costs you nothing to be polite."

241

Posted by: Billy Bob Soothsayers at April 06, 2011 08:06 PM (BPptn)

What is the "Do nothing Congress" Alex.

242 235 Because it wasn't mentioned, you just know the sex of Titcomb's "date"    Sort of like when the news media puts out an urget news bulletin of a rapist at large but does not mention the skin color? Or when a terrorist attack happens since 9/11 and it has nothing to do with religion? Yeah, am being sarcastic, but I do wonder if Titcomb was flirting with skirts or briefs.

243

You morons are all acting lying around acting like it's over.

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

I'm in with Trump, who's with me? Let's go!

244 protected rolls? are those the ones with the buttery goodness baked right in?

245 fuck paul ryan. THe only way he will redeem himself right now is if he stakes his entire political career on passing entitlment and fiscal reform after voting for Tarp and GM bailouts.

246 When are the Republicans going to stop pimping eastern RINOs and biblethumpers? Posted by: Kristopher at April 06, 2011 07:59 PM (atS82) THIS Posted by: YRM (Not Very Optimistic Of The Future) at April 06, 2011 08:02 PM (RmjCD) SECONDED

247 btw ace, when are we having a thread on teh one's reaction to gas prices.

You mean where he told the guy he ought to trade in his car? Yeah, who besides Barky can afford a new car these days?

Krauthammer told a story about Christie asking if he had to commit suicide to convince people he's not running and some wag replied, 'try it, and we'll run you posthumously.'

248 Dude, Teh Ronald was personally very friendly with Tip O'Neill. Remember what a piece of shit that guy was?

Compared to the current Democrat leadership, Tip was friggin' Clay, Calhoun and Webster all rolled into one.

249

@225, I was all a-flutter over Mitch Daniels until he 1) called for a "truce" on social issues and 2) defended the Indiana fleebaggers.

It's one thing to be a socially moderate to liberal person like Chris Christie, who ended up defunding Planned Parenthood because the state couldn't afford it. It's another to be a social conservative and abandon the field before you even get there--that way lies George W. Bush and Huckabee, and the desire to be "nice." Running away from the debate before it even begins is exactly the opposite of what Trump's currently doing. The fleebagger stuff is just contempt for the rule of law and contemptible. Daniels is great fiscally, but he's lost me.

250 This poll illuminates the dilemma that the majority
of those who identify as Republican are morons

Posted by: Beto at April 06, 2011 08:08 PM (H+LJc)

Truth to Power dude woooooo!

251

I heard Trump on Laura Ingraham's show last week, the man did not hold back.  He was not like that NY repub gov candidate, Trump was calm but went after the fraud and the reporters who "kiss his a$$", yes that is what he said.

252 I know Rubio says he's not interested, but I'm not convinced.

253 I'm holding out for Larry the Cable Guy.

254

Posted by: willow at April 06, 2011 08:08 PM (h+qn

I will say I'd proudly vote Palin over Obama any day, that said her poll numbers worry me as both a fan and someone who wants Obama out

255 268 Don't forget the VAT.

256

What is the "Do nothing Congress" Alex.

Has to be, right? If you don't show the people leadership, they'll can your ass.

That's why Boehner is a one-term Speaker. The Republicans didn't earn the majority with what they did in Congress; they won because people voted against the shitty Democrats.

257 I'll say it again.  Reading this thread convinces me that there are a lot of quasi/coastie/squishy repubs if not dems trying to act conservative.  For some of you, no one will be good enough to run against Barky.  Which makes the point I've also made about dem campaign plants posting here. 

258

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 06, 2011 08:12 PM (7utQ2)

you're talking about my Senator, Marco Rubio, damn proud of that guy and i'll be backing Lemiuex against Nelson

259 134 OTresident Obama's close friend arrested during prostitution sting

HONOLULU (HawaiiNewsNow) - One of President Obama's closest friends is scheduled to appear at Honolulu District Court next month, after he allegedly solicited sex from an undercover officer posing as a prostitute.

Police arrested Robert Richard Titcomb, 49, of Waialua on suspicion of prostitution Monday night.  He allegedly offered money for sex near the intersection of South Street and Pohukaina Street at about 9:40 PM.

Titcomb and the President have been close friends since high school.  The two are frequently seen golfing and dining together when the Obama family visits Hawaii. http://tinyurl.com/3tb9dq7

  What? No, "The 5-0 acted stupidly!" statement from TheWon like he did for his friend Skip Gates?

260 protected rolls? are those the ones with the buttery goodness baked right in?

Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at April 06, 2011 08:10 PM (6IReR)

 

Probably, and with honey lightly drizzled over them too.

261 That's why Boehner is a one-term Speaker.

I'll take that action.  Straight up.

Name your terms.

262
Which makes the point I've also made about dem campaign plants posting here. 

That's crazy talk.

263 For some of you, no one will be good enough to run against Barky.  Which makes the point I've also made about dem campaign plants posting here. 

Posted by: Soona at April 06, 2011 08:12 PM (QMXsk)

Zombie Reagan was a closet Marxist, who's with me?!

264

Posted by: Soona at April 06, 2011 08:12 PM (QMXsk)

anyone will be good enough to run against Obama for me, that said i'm not gonna lie and say certain candidates don't worry me. your beef is not w/ me. I fear both moderates and/or righties in the party will screw us over because they don't like the nominee.

265

We're doing a good job of hiding the frontrunner.  Keeps the media just hammering Palin in case.  

266 243 Careful Jeff, if you let a man blow you your gay, it doesn't matter which side of the dick your on. But of course, if you choose that lifestyle, there's nothing wrong with that. That didn't sound like a "No, I wasn't offering," to me.

267

seriously, with all the business connections Trump has, if he gets the nomination, all of them will fall in line, dont  know about the establishment repubs, I suspect most of them will, he went after some of these establishment repubs in his interviews, that appeals very much so to indies.

I just hope he doesn't pull a Ross Perot. There are many people willing to vote for any repub candidate over that fraud, but if the vote is split, won't work then.

268

I will say I'd proudly vote Palin over Obama any day, that said her poll numbers worry me as both a fan and someone who wants Obama out

Posted by: YRM

I feel the same. love palin . but we must win. maybe she'll hit the right notes going forward, in the meantime we must find someone we can get everyone on board with(is it possible?) im not sure anymore at least not hate .and wont vote.

269 you're talking about my Senator, Marco Rubio, damn proud of that guy and i'll be backing Lemiuex against Nelson

He's my Senator, too.

270 281 I remenber him bringing it up as an idea worthy of consideration. I will research further, thanks.

271 Has to be, right? If you don't show the people leadership, they'll can your ass.

That's why Boehner is a one-term Speaker. The Republicans didn't earn the majority with what they did in Congress; they won because people voted against the shitty Democrats.

Sob, waah, sniff, sniff.

272
Circa, the Republican majority is razor thin. The Democrats can easily take the House in 2012 because turnout is gonna be ridiculously high.

273 Bacon cologne

274 with all the business connections Trump has

Sorry, I'll need some proof there.

275
Was Rubio one of the 90 who voted against Rand Paul's resolution?

276 287 OK, No I am not offering. However, there is apparently some street in Hawaii.

277 ChristyBrinkly,  I and some friends are working to find out the sex of the cop posing as a prostitute.

My guess is that since they did not name the sex of the undercover sting cop  and it was in a park,  it was a guy.

I will post it as soon as I find out.

278 Oh wait.  He's only filed for bankruptcy 3 times. 

TRUMP IN '12!  Who better to balance the budget!

279 Lifestyles of the Rich and Douchy.

280 think Titcome fall will hurt Obama? after Ayers, Farrakan, Wright?

281
and it's real good for us in 2012 that all the Republicans are tacitly approving of Obama's attack on Libya.

282

wow I read read the thread concerning Trump over at C4P, some of them saying "Palin 2012 - or BUST."  Is their goal to get Palin the repub nomination and then lose to Barry, or is their main goal to kick Barry out in '12?

283

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 06, 2011 08:16 PM (7utQ2)

whoa, sorry about that, damn it's awesome to have him from here (so far), so unlike Ace we got to vote for the guy instead of stalk him? awesome, so I hope you're out there in 2012 turning FL back to red and getting that dope Nelson out.

Posted by: Billy Bob Soothsayers at April 06, 2011 08:16 PM (5ql/p)

disagree. and I don;t say this because you and me just don't generally like each other on this blog (we may like each other in real life, who knows?) but the Dems would need about +25 to get back the House and w/ Obama in 08 they got 21, and they'll be more anti-Obama feeling in 2012 then there was in 2008. we'll keep the House, probably take the Senate, the White House we'll see.

284 301 And that folks is the definition of rhetorical writing.

285 >>in the meantime we must find someone we can get everyone on board with(is it possible?) People will go their own way during the primary and rip other candidates to pieces. Once a candidate is chosen, people will come together even if they aren't thrilled with the candidate. Barry will see to that.

286
dood, Obama will probably get 70 million votes in 2012.

How the hell are we gonna compete against that kind of turnout?

287

Posted by: Billy Bob Soothsayers at April 06, 2011 08:17 PM (BPptn)

sadly he was, not everyone is perfect anyone who agrees w/ someone 100% has no true values or respect of a person

he's ways better then Crist or Martinez were

288

Empire of Jeff 2012.

Look, I figure I did already vote for Palin in 2008, so I would obviously do so again. That said, I do not believe she could win, no matter how much I like her. She started the war, and for that I am forever grateful. I think she should be like Rush Limbaugh and make money while stating opinion.

Post 2008, lessons to be learned, as time is short on the Mayan calendar: do not divide the party after the primary in a big pout, or stay home on your self-righteous couch on election day 2012. If you do, don't come whining when socialists take over worse than they have.

The FIRST lesson the GOP needs to learn is to stop being so elitist (re: "experience" or "gravitas") and to find someone with cohones. Yes, Alan West would fit that ticket quite well. Personally, in another universe where Americans ruled, a Bolton/Wes 2012t ticket might do the trick of stopping some of these radical Islamists in their yak tracks.

289 Empire of Jeff Currently Listening To: Mitt Romney Penis Mood: Asleep

290 265 fuck paul ryan. THe only way he will redeem himself right now is if he stakes his entire political career on passing entitlment and fiscal reform after voting for Tarp and GM bailouts.

I would argue he just did stake his career on it. He comes from a lib union district and, while they've thus far been supportive of his reforms, they might start wondering now. RE TARP, he thought it was necessary at the time because the markets were seizing-up and about to spiral due not only to economic factors but also b/c Bernanke and Paulson were out there creating hysteria. As for GM bailouts, I've heard his explanation for that but it was likely to please his district.

Still, I don't think you have any reason to worry that he'll steal Palin's thunder. She did want him to run, but he didn't and he's repeatedly said he won't. So why all the fuss if he isn't about to jump into the race?

291 dood, Obama will probably get 70 million votes in 2012.

How the hell are we gonna compete against that kind of turnout?

Posted by: Billy Bob Soothsayers at April 06, 2011 08:22 PM (BPptn)

Pass me whatever it is you are smokin

292 dood, Obama will probably get 70 million votes in 2012.

How the hell are we gonna compete against that kind of turnout?

Posted by: Billy Bob Soothsayers at April 06, 2011 08:22 PM (BPptn)

He got more than 70 mil last time?

293

People will go their own way during the primary and rip other candidates to pieces. Once a candidate is chosen, people will come together even if they aren't thrilled with the candidate

Jackstraw, That's what I'm hoping. I swear i wanted to slap a few that said they wouldn't vote last time around cause it was no better than. I'd like to know if they feel the same.

My life and my families have suffered more than It might have,

has theirs?

294 in the meantime we must find someone who will actually commit to running. FIFY.

295 >>dood, Obama will probably get 70 million votes in 2012. If the economy is in the same place as it is today and the unemployment rate stays about where it is, Barry is in deep doo doo. Hope and Change and electing the first black president has already been done.

296
Did he? I thought he got 65 million votes.

297

I like the no drama Daniels.  He campaigns.. everyone agrees.. he wins .. it passes. 

Posted by: Jackwagon

Daniels is a smart guy who has done well in Indiana. He has substance.  We need 50 smart men and women as governors doing what he has done. But Indiana is not a paradigm of the United States. There will not be the time or the atmosphere for America to "get to know" Mitch Daniels.  I wish him well.  He would probably be a good President.  But he has to WIN.  Nobody is going to give anybody this job. The MFM will do their best to make him look like a nobody.

Consider again what an empty suit Obama was and is, and how the uncritical and pandering Media campaigned for him. This is one way to win, regardless of how bad it has been for the country.  Appearance and the perceived image can count as much or more than substance. Whoever wins (if possible) against Obama will have to fight through the anti-buzz created by the MFM.

298

He got more than 70 mil last time?

Posted by: FUBAR at April 06, 2011 08:24 PM (McG46)

No, 68 million I think. Now he is miraculously more popular or something. 

299
speaking of which, isn't it time for Florida to being their ridiculous "early voting" for 2012?

300

Posted by: Billy Bob Soothsayers at April 06, 2011 08:22 PM (BPptn)

Obama got 69 million in 08, polls showed many who voted for him are now tossups or strong GOP, he will not get more votes and only 2 Presidents have been re-elected to a 2nd term w/ less votes then when they got elected the 1st time. Madison in 1812 and Wilson in 1916

301 all the primaries should be on the same day.....

302 dood, Obama will probably get 70 million votes in 2012.

What are you basing that on?

The guy won by _thismuch in a year when everything that could possibly go his way went his way.

The indies are not amused at this this point.  Ohio and Wisconsin were a bloodbath for his party last November, his personal cache just doesn't deliver any more.  Anyone that hammers him every single day on the economy and doesn't engage in timid McCain campaign tactics will beat him.

303

296 Was Rubio one of the 90 who voted against Rand Paul's resolution?

Yes.

304 @305, Daniels should have gone the Christie route of not even mentioning social issues, just keep hammering again and again and again how boned we are. That "truce" talk and fleabagger praise looks like weakness, and no one responds to that. The fact that he stepped away from that debate before it even began sends off alarm bells in my head that sound like "Bush...Huckabee...Bush...Huckabee." We need someone to be tough, and he's just revealed serious weakness. Be like Christie--realize that vast swaths of people will hate you, and move ahead regardless. But don't do this mealy mouthed crap.

305 all the primaries should be on the same day.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 06, 2011 08:27 PM (eOXTH)

and no crossover voting

306
You're underestimating Obama's '08 win. He turned red states blue -- several of them. He killed McCain in the electoral count.

We got trounced.

307 In 1980, Jimmeh got 35,480,115 votes. Chocolate Carter will probably get about 40,000,000

308

As it currently stands, we're dicked. I still think someone should secretly juice Teh Fred and watch him tear ass through the campaign season but that's where my fantasy ends because I know the old guy's ticker couldn't handle it.

 

309 Did he? I thought he got 65 million votes.

Posted by: Billy Bob Soothsayers at April 06, 2011 08:25 PM (BPptn)

Then you're smoking crack.  No way he gets more votes than last time.

310

The problem for any Republican thinking about running is the knowledge that the playing field is totally tilted left. The MFM is going to savage them in small and large ways. The reporting is going to be stilted and all the good will lay unreported.

That's the problem. In a debate, that was fairly administered, almost all of the potential Republican candidates should be able to put the beat down on Chicago Jesus on his fucked up record alone.

However, it won't be fair, will it? No. Now, if you are a Republican Candidate with maybe something to hide, a dwi, a little sword fight action in band camp, a little weed and whatever, you KNOW the MFM is going to lower the boom on you in October right before the election.

Trump, on the other hand, doesn't have to worry about this. All the shitty things about him are already out there. I'm not sugessting that he is a good candidate. I will say that I will vote for Satan if it means the end of Obama.

311 21% Romney, 17% for both Hucakbee and Trump.

So 55% of Republicans are effing retarded.  Sounds about right, reminds me of the local Republican County chair who things the 1st amendment doesn't apply to radio TV or the internet because it says 'press'.

312 Was Rubio one of the 90 who voted against Rand Paul's resolution?

Yes.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 06, 2011 08:27 PM (UO6+e)

There are principles and there are principles.

I cannot believe that ONLY ten R Senators had the nerve to vote for this obviously flawed resolution.  I mean if Sen Obama and the literal Constitution agree, then something must be wrong at the cosmic level.

313 how about begging Fred Thompson to try again?

I just messed myself with joy.

314
No way he gets more votes than last time.

Obama is a total failure and he enjoys 50% approval ratings. This man defies logic. All his policy positions poll lousy, but people like Obama. We are making a huge blunder by underestimating the genius Obama campaign machine.

315

328 You're underestimating Obama's '08 win. He turned red states blue -- several of them. He killed McCain in the electoral count.

We got trounced.

The last presidential election broke all previous models, so it's hard to compare it to a particular situation. Though I do have to wonder what the turn-out would have been had more conservatives voted. Met some people who either didn't vote or went 3rd party; didn't see that as much back in '04.

316 And when it gets pointed out overandoverandoverandoverandover that Trump has filed for bankruptcy thrice, what is his explanation?

317

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 06, 2011 08:27 PM (7utQ2)

though I can argue a case why he'll probably be re-elected, History is not on his side.

1. He'll lose votes from 08 and only 2 Presidents have been re-elected to a 2nd term, w/ less votes in their re-election then their 1st election (Madison, Wilson)

2. less then 50% of our Presidents have been re-elected, even when you count VP sucessors who got an elected term it's less then 50%

3. other then 1801-1825 we haven't had 3 straight 2 termers and at that time it was pratically a 1 party system. we're due for a 1 term President.

4. Only 1 President in recorded History has been re-elected w/ 7%+ unemployment (Reagan)

318 He turned red states blue -- several of them. He killed McCain in the electoral count.

2008 was such an outlier that I don't even know where to start.  Raise your hand if you think Obama wins Florida, Virginia, Indiana, and North Carolina next year.  That means flip Ohio and Pennsylvania and game over.  Michigan, Wisconsin, Colorado, Nevada, and New Mexico will be in play.  He hit the lottery in '08.

319 1Trump+1 Huckabee + 1Romney=4 Obama

320 What happens if the US cannot AFFORD a presidential election in 2012?

321
btw, voting against Rand Paul's resolution is tantamount to approving of Obama's course of action in Libya.

Yet another GOP blunder. These people don't understand their role as the opposition party.

322 Trump has filed for bankruptcy thrice, what is his explanation?

Posted by: FUBAR at April 06, 2011 08:33 PM (McG46)

Obama will file for bankruptcy once--at the Federal level.

323

Debbie Wasserman-Shultz just asked if she got two votes for the budget mark-up because the poor clerk pronounces her name as two names. Urgh she annoys me.

324

wow I read read the thread concerning Trump over at C4P, some of them saying "Palin 2012 - or BUST."  Is their goal to get Palin the repub nomination and then lose to Barry, or is their main goal to kick Barry out in '12?

Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-dem at April 06, 2011 08:20 PM (ACkhT)

I dont speak for them but my goal is to advance conservatism not just to beat barry. Having dubya in the wh got us barry and eroded conservatism.

Currently as I see it Palin has the best chance of winning the general. I feel with a campaign she will turn things around. I think those here are being naive if they do not believe that the media will not kill the other nominees. Palin is already battle tested and has done well in interviews. Right now, her supporters are just waiting for an announcement.

325

Posted by: Billy Bob Soothsayers at April 06, 2011 08:29 PM (BPptn)

he's unpopular in every state he flipped from red to blue

Posted by: Billy Bob Soothsayers at April 06, 2011 08:32 PM (BPptn)

nope, Obama's is below 50%, Gallup has him at 45%, the Dem biased Gallup

326 fred thompson's key advisor is a freakin' pro palestinian guy.....sorry.....he has ZERO respect hanging out with a creep like that.....

327 Obama is a total failure and he enjoys 50% approval ratings. This man defies logic. All his policy positions poll lousy, but people like Obama. We are making a huge blunder by underestimating the genius Obama campaign machine.

Posted by: Billy Bob Soothsayers at April 06, 2011 08:32 PM (BPptn)

Hm.  So I guess we should just give up, huh?  Doesn't really seem like there's any way possible to win, might as well not try.  Is that generally what you're thinking?

Shrewd strategery, I have to admit.  Marshall your resources and wait for a winnable battle, right?

Ok, I'm in.  Screw 2012!

328 Let's dispense with the Fred fantasy, please.

He's old and done.

329 347, Right now, her supporters are just waiting for an announcement. Yes we are, absofuckinglutely, we are.

330  And when it gets pointed out overandoverandoverandoverandover that Trump has filed for bankruptcy thrice, what is his explanation?

Posted by: FUBAR at April 06, 2011 08:33 PM (McG46)

My fellow American's it's true, I have prospered and failed and prospered and failed many times in my life. Did I let that stop me? No, I learned what wouldn't work through many hours of hard effort and started again.

By many  measures I am a rich man. It's true I have a great deal of money, BUT what I really have is a wealth of knowledge, that I earned the hard way. Who better to take our present poor economy and turn it around? Do you want to continue the unchanging and hopeless policies of President Obama?

331

I dont speak for them but my goal is to advance conservatism not just to beat barry.

so 4 more years not a big deal to you?

Currently as I see it Palin has the best chance of winning the general.

huh which one is it, can she win or do you not care if she can? give some of what you're smoking if a woman who polls against Obama worst then loony uncle Paul can win. and no that's not just any poll, that's a RASMUSSEN poll you know the one that got the lection on the nose idk every time.

332
RCP average: 47

that's pretty good for a pretty lousy president who pals around with terrorists, has an ugly and obnoxious wife, and has an illegal alien aunt sponging off the taxpayers.

333 btw, voting against Rand Paul's resolution is tantamount to approving of Obama's course of action in Libya.

Yet another GOP blunder. These people don't understand their role as the opposition party.

Posted by: Billy Bob Soothsayers at April 06, 2011 08:35 PM (5ql/p)

BBS: No argument, but I think it is even worse than that--they don't even understand basic Constitutional limitations placed on the three branches and have andicated their responsibility to we the people.  I think the Libyan misadventure is a big freaking mistake, but I (futilely) expect my Congressmen and Senators to take a stand on such an action.  I would feel better (but not by much) if they gave a rousing endorsement to the O's approach to limited kinetic action-then they would at least have made a documented stand on something.

334

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 06, 2011 08:35 PM (UO6+e)

I really believe she bases her whole politics on her paranoia that the GOP wants her vagina.

335 We are making a huge blunder by underestimating the genius Obama campaign machine.

Posted by: Billy Bob Soothsayers

I wouldn't credit his campaigning unless he or his people are doing something REALLY brilliant behind the scenes.  There is just no objective criticism of him based on objective reality.

Everything he does is magic, even when it's wrong.  This mess in Libya- ANY other President I've seen in my life would get raked over the coals for not getting a resolution from Congress for this. But not Obama.  Hell's bells, Rand Paul only musters 10 votes for a resolution stating principle.  This situation is ROTTEN.  How do you continually pierce and talk over the wall of noise and curtain of stupidity that has descended over this country?

336

Have faith, my little dears. The Americans I know will defeat the flying monkeys in 2012 and The Won. Never, ever, give up (Churchill) nor underestimate the the American people (Harry Truman).

337 Let's dispense with the Fred fantasy, please.

He's old and done.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 06, 2011 08:37 PM (7utQ2)

Beats the hell out of any other possible rep we have.

338

355 RCP average: 47

that's pretty good for a pretty lousy president who pals around with terrorists, has an ugly and obnoxious wife, and has an illegal alien aunt sponging off the taxpayers.

I frankly don't believe that average. Even Rasmussen has been all over the place when it comes to polling lately and I'm not going to embrace NBC or CBS polls which oversample by a wide margin.

339

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at April 06, 2011 08:35 PM (c5RQr)

Can you answer this?  I will vote for any repub over Barry the agitator. I'm a registered independent, my question to you, if Palin loses in a fair fight in the repub nomination, will you support and vote for that repub candidate to kick out Barry in the general election?

340
You'd think the Republicans would have the sense to not vote if they didn't support Paul. But to vote against him, a fellow GOPer?

341

Posted by: Billy Bob Soothsayers at April 06, 2011 08:39 PM (5ql/p)

that includes the MSM polls that add +5-10 Dems and claimed the GOP would come up short in Nov. Rasmussen has been on the nose and says he's been in the mid 40s since summer 09.

do you have anything to contribute instead of condemning everyone in the GOP, on this blog, or anyone who wants to beat Obama?

342

Thats what the primary is for. To learn about our candidates. 

I had no idea who Palin was before Aug 08.

Posted by: Jackwagon at April 06, 2011 08:40 PM (qjUnn)

How'd that work for you with Obama in the primaries?

343

@333 tiny url dot com /655hc8f . Jack, I didn't want Daniels to run as a so-con--I wanted him to not pussy out on the debate before it even happened. Daniels has a charisma problem, and his mealy-mouthed response immediately made me think of the niceness of Bush and Huckabee. We can't have one of those squishy Republicans again.

344
When's the last time the Democrats embarrassed a fellow Democrat in the Senate like the Republicans embarrassed Rand Paul?

 That clown Al fucking Franken doesn't even get treated that badly.

345 Obama is a total failure and he enjoys 50% approval ratings. This man defies logic. All his policy positions poll lousy, but people like Obama. We are making a huge blunder by underestimating the genius Obama campaign machine.

Posted by: Billy Bob Soothsayers at April 06, 2011 08:32 PM (BPptn)

Oh god polls again, the only polls Obama gets 50% in are ones with a 14 point dem bias. If you reversed that he would be in the 20's. He is underwater with independents and republicans. The only way the media can make him look like he is not a total douche is to scew the polls.

346  Urgh she annoys me.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby

and she has bad hair.

347 Hey Billy Bob, if we all promise to vote Democrat, will you give it a rest?

348 the only honest thing a person can say is I belive obama was born here. why the fuck should we have to believe, we should know for a fucking fact . what the fuck are we, members of a church or citizens of a country that says in the constitution that the must be a NATURALIZED citizen. save the fucking beliefs for sunday we deserve and must know if this asshole meets the qualification.

349

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 06, 2011 08:41 PM (UO6+e)

Ras has consintently said he's been unpopular since summer of 09, Gallup themselves can't carry the guy to 50. The MSM polls claimed Obama would win w/ 57% of the vote, he won w/ 52%. they also said the GOP would come up short in Nov and that Americans love Obamacare. RCP counts those polls in that's where 47 comes from.

350 Thats what the primary is for. To learn about our candidates.

Yes.............but................

We have to have someone who will break free of handlers and actually tell the truth in the truly strange first stops in Iowa and New Hampshire. 

The answer is to go to both of those places and all that follow with a simple three point message:

1.  The economy stinks.
2.  See #1.
3.  High speed rail won't fix it.

Unstated #4:  DO NOT GET SIDETRACKED ON BULLSHIT STUFF LIKE ETHANOL.

351

Can you answer this?  I will vote for any repub over Barry the agitator. I'm a registered independent, my question to you, if Palin loses in a fair fight in the repub nomination, will you support and vote for that repub candidate to kick out Barry in the general election?

Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-dem at April 06, 2011 08:42 PM (ACkhT)

It entirely depends on who the candidate is though. I hate to be sour grapes and all but if it is Romney or Huckabee, I will not vote period. They would do nothing to advance conservatism and would actually harm it and give us another liberal. The O is already neutered with a GOP house. I'm not going to give my first pres vote to someone like them. If it's pawlenty propbably. Daniels probably but they are as charismatic as a rock and dont seem to give two shits about anything, so it just mean less boots on the ground for the GOP to me.

352 It doesn't matter who gets the nomination.  Unless the nominee has a workable plan for cutting the gummint by 40%, and the means of getting people to go along with it, it's all merely window dressing.  As it is, the best the GOP can come up with is a proposal to cut spending from universally unsustainable to merely galactically unsustainable, and they can't even get the bulk of their members to get behind that.
Trump, not Trump, even the Obamessiah - without a massive reduction in the government, it just doesn't matter.

353

Dennis Miller just called Pelosi a "scarecrow" and that her "face is tighter than Buddy Rich's snare drum skins." I love that man, and would love to see him take Beck's slot at 5pm EST.

Pelosi is going to botox herself to the point where she can't close her beady eyes. Freakoid.

354 The only way the media can make him look like he is not a total douche is to screw the polls.

Posted by: robtr at April 06, 2011 08:44 PM (MtwBb)

But the media will beat that drum 24/7, all the while ignoring any substantive policy issue raised by any Repub and phrasing the poll questions against any R initiative.  Wait for the Ryan attacks to start and continue for the next two years or so, and he isn't even running against O directly.

355

Posted by: FUBAR at April 06, 2011 08:45 PM (McG46)

wow finally i'm not the only one annoyed w/ this guy on here

356 That clown Al fucking Franken doesn't even get treated that badly.

Posted by: Billy Bob Soothsayers

Exactly right.  Is it because it is Rand Paul, or is it the issue?  There is no principle or courage among most of the Republican Senate caucus.  Before reading who voted, I knew for certain that Jim DeMint was with him, and I was right. Even the Maine sob sisters voted with him.

357 I'd vote for Trump if he promised to say, "You're fired!" to Obama just before he's sworn in.

358

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at April 06, 2011 08:46 PM (c5RQr)

there's your answer John, and thus why we're fucked in 2012 with this mindset

359

But the media will beat that drum 24/7, all the while ignoring any substantive policy issue raised by any Repub and phrasing the poll questions against any R initiative.  Wait for the Ryan attacks to start and continue for the next two years or so, and he isn't even running against O directly.

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 06, 2011 08:47 PM (DCpHZ)

Yeah well 25% of Americans say they trust the media and those are polls by the media. Who do you think those  25% vote for and always will? democrats.

360 I'm a registered independent, my question to you, if Palin loses in a fair fight in the repub nomination, will you support and vote for that repub candidate to kick out Barry in the general election?

I will vote for anyone other than Paul the Elder.  And I mean anyone.

Yes, even that fat dolt from Arkansas.  You no idea how painful it was for me to write that.

361 I think we can forget  "advancing conservatism" in the 2012 general, and focus on trying to keep from losing the country entirely.

362 Trump has shown he's willing to fight. Really fight. Not just smile at the enemy and call him "my friend that I politely disagree with".  That's why he's surging.  That's the only reason. He could ride a case of spine to the nomination given the current crop of candidates.

363
Don't be cocksuckers, the two of you. Really, I'm trying to be nice but there's always a couple of nitwits that have to get personal.

Sorry to burst your little bubbles with my opinion. But you don't like my opinion so you return with crap ad hominen snark.

Grow up.

364

 Flapjackmaka at April 06, 2011 08:46 PM (c5RQr)

I'm personally begging you to reconsider, we can't take another four years to make a point, even if you consider romney or whoever a flake compared to what you Want your important vote to represent, we have NO chance with Obama , many of us will be permanently finished financially and otherwise, so just add 4 years of what has happened and what our country might not recover from.

365 374 Ras has consintently said he's been unpopular since summer of 09, Gallup themselves can't carry the guy to 50. The MSM polls claimed Obama would win w/ 57% of the vote, he won w/ 52%. they also said the GOP would come up short in Nov and that Americans love Obamacare. RCP counts those polls in that's where 47 comes from.

Ras is consistent on other issues but not-so-much on presidential politics. But I agree that Obama is underwater; the issue is that the polls don't accurately reflect by how much. It's hard to find a Dem that will honestly endorse O's policies these days.

366 Even the Maine sob sisters voted with him.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at April 06, 2011 08:47 PM (sJTmU)

Isn't it depressing when the sob sisters have more cojones than most of the rest of the R Senators?

367
Even the Maine sob sisters voted with him.

You're shittin me? But yeah, like you, I knew DeMint was one of the ten.

368

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at April 06, 2011 08:46 PM (c5RQr)

Well, first thank you for answering. Second, I think its  very revealing that you would rather sit out than vote for as close to a conservative as possible against Barry. Makes me completely rethink Palin supporters. There are supreme court nominations at stake, and you will rather sit it out; I'm not talking about working, volunteering, but simplely voting for that repub candidate.  Makes me see Palin fans in a completely different way.

369 RON PAUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

370 Did they give any reason for the Vote against Pauls  bill?

371 Sorry to burst your little bubbles with my opinion. But you don't like my opinion so you return with crap ad hominen snark.

Grow up.

To which I say, if you really believe Obama will get 70 million votes next year--why are you here?

372 Don't be cocksuckers, the two of you. Really, I'm trying to be nice but there's always a couple of nitwits that have to get personal.

Sorry to burst your little bubbles with my opinion. But you don't like my opinion so you return with crap ad hominen snark.

Grow up.

Posted by: Billy Bob Soothsayers at April 06, 2011 08:49 PM (5ql/p)

Huh?  I'm right with you, bud.  I hate Obama too, just like you, but he's so darn popular it might be better if we just laid low and tried not to get noticed.  It might be a good idea to vote for him, not because we support him of course, but just in case.

I mean, don't get me wrong, I hate the Democrats, but the Republicans are all stoopid and can't do anything right and Obama is just unbeatable and so darned popular even though, you know, I hate him.

Cool?

373

Posted by: Billy Bob Soothsayers at April 06, 2011 08:49 PM (5ql/p)

this goes back b/w the 2 of us a long way, never have I attacked you just disagreed and gotten annoyed of you. I do recall being called an a-hole by you because I didn't worship Palin but i'll go back to ignoring you

374 Did they give any reason for the Vote against Pauls  bill?

Posted by: willow at April 06, 2011 08:53 PM (h+qn

They didn't have to. They don't want to take a vote on Libya and if they voted for Pauls bill they would actually have to do their job.

375 354, so if she were the candidate you would not donate, support and work hard for her election? In the end it's not about what we think others will do, it's about what we do. In the end, it's about defeating Obama with the most conservative candidate available. You may have other first choices, that's fine. The truth is you don't know she can't win, just like I don't know she can. You cite polls. What polls? whose polls? The same polls that showed Reagan a loser? Rassmussen don't mean shit 20 months out. Every poll of like minded individuals from Redstate, Hot Air, and every other conservative blog shows her kicking everyones ass. We will be the ones volunteering, working the polls, donating money. I personally don't like Romney, or Huck, but I'm not going to trash them because I may have to vote for them. And if neccessary, I will.

376  I'd vote for Trump if he promised to say, "You're fired!" to Obama just before he's sworn in.

Posted by: Ms Choksondik

 

I'd pay big money to see that! Gawd, would the professional ball-suckers in both parties be pissed if Trump won.

Unprecedented!  and it would be too.

377 The Democrats *knew* Obama cheated in the primaries, but they voted for him.

If the Republicans refuse to vote because they don't agree with the candidate choice, then y'all had better line up for "I'm with Stupid" tattoos so I'll be able to identify you easily after the apocalypse.

I would vote for Trump if he was the anti-Democrat candidate, no matter how fucking puerile and stupid he is.

Fuck, I would even vote for Laup Nor, if he was legitimately the candidate, but I'd need help to get to the polls because I'd have to get raging drunk first.

A skipped vote is a vote for Obama, Economic collapse, Cloward-Piven, and Universal Free Surprise Buttsex.

378

Posted by: willow at April 06, 2011 08:53 PM (h+qn

maybe there was something in it that concerned them, who knows? even Reagan was wrong every now and then.

379

I mean, don't get me wrong, I hate the Democrats, but the Republicans are all stoopid and can't do anything right and Obama is just unbeatable and so darned popular even though, you know, I hate him.

Cool?

Posted by: FUBAR at April 06, 2011 08:54 PM (McG46)

That was beautiful man, I just sent a donation to Obama.

380 I think the senators didn't side with Rand Paul because (1) they don't want to look like they're failing to support the troops and (2) some of them are interventionists who support Libya. So part of it is cowardice and another part is that they agree with Obama here.

381 Unfortunately, Trump may be our only hope as he owes no allegiance to any political structure, and in particular, he has never had his hands in the Federal till.

382 Makes me see Palin fans in a completely different way.

Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-dem at April 06, 2011 08:51 PM (ACkhT)

Not all Palin supporters are that way.    I'll vote for whoever wins the nomination against deWon, and I just brought myself to that conclusion a week or so ago.   I will tell you that if it's Romeny or the huckster, I will be puking for days after, though.

383 I think we can forget  "advancing conservatism" in the 2012 general, and focus on trying to keep from losing the country entirely.

Posted by: USS Diversity at April 06, 2011 08:49 PM (gJNMj)

Word. Ohio is split right now because the media has done an effective job on portraying Kasich as an evil tyrant who rolls out of bed wanting to destroy the middle class, blah fucking blah.

I didn't think we were going to be this much on the defensive.

384 @122: "We do not even know he is a Republican. He has said he was pretty liberal in the past."

What a coinky-dink...

385 ARTICLE OF IMPEACHMENT OF PRESIDENT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA...MMMMMMMM....MMMMMMMM....MMMMMM !!!

RESOLVED, That Barack Hussein Obama, President of the United States, is impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors, and that the following article of impeachment to be exhibited to the Senate:

ARTICLE OF IMPEACHMENT EXHIBITED BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IN THE NAME OF ITSELF AND OF ALL OF THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AGAINST BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, IN MAINTENANCE AND SUPPORT OF ITS IMPEACHMENT AGAINST HIM FOR HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS IN USURPING THE EXCLUSIVE PREROGATIVE OF CONGRESS TO COMENCE WAR UNDER ARTICLE 1, SECTION 8, CLAUSE 11 OF THE CONSTITUTION.

ARTICLE I
In his conduct of the office of President of the United States, Barack Hussein Obama, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, has usurped the exclusive power of Congress to initiate war under Article I, section 8, clause 11 of the United States Constitution by unilaterally commencing war against the Republic of Libya on March 19, 2011, declaring that Congress is powerless to constrain his conduct of the war, and claiming authority in the future to commence war unilaterally to advance whatever he ordains is in the national interest. By so doing and declaring, Barack Hussein Obama has mocked the rule of law, endangered the very existence of the Republic and the liberties of the people, and perpetrated an impeachable high crime and misdemeanor as hereinafter elaborated.

I. THE IMPEACHMENT POWER

1. Article II, Section IV of the United States Constitution provides: “The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”
2. According to James MadisonÂ’s Records of the Convention, 2:550; Madison, 8 Sept., Mr. George Mason objected to an initial proposal to confine impeachable offenses to treason or bribery:
Why is the provision restrained to Treason & bribery only? Treason as defined in the Constitution will not reach many great and dangerous offences. Hastings is not guilty of Treason. Attempts to subvert the Constitution may not be Treason as above defined--As bills of attainder which have saved the British Constitution are forbidden, it is the more necessary to extend: the power of impeachments.
3. Delegates to the Federal Convention voted overwhelmingly to include “high crimes and misdemeanors” in Article II, Section IV of the United States Constitution specifically to ensure that “attempts to subvert the Constitution” would fall within the universe of impeachable offences. Id.
4. Alexander Hamilton, a delegate to the Federal Convention, characterized impeachable offenses in Federalist 65 as, “offenses which proceed from the misconduct of public men, or in other words, from the violation or abuse of some public trust. They are of a nature which with peculiar propriety may be denominated political, as they relate chiefly to injuries done to society itself.”
5. In 1974, the House Judiciary Committee voted three articles of impeachment against then President Richard M. Nixon for actions “subversive of constitutional government.”
6. Father of the Constitution, James Madison, observed that, “Of all the enemies of public liberty, war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other…. War is the true nurse of executive aggrandizement.”
7. James Madison also instructed that “no nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.”
8. The exclusive congressional power to commence war under Article I, section VIII, clause XI of the Constitution is the pillar of the Republic and the greatest constitutional guarantor of individual liberty, transparency, and government frugality.

386 ""I will say that I will vote for Satan if it means the end of Obama.""


Exactly my attitude.

387
I personally don't like Romney, or Huck, but I'm not going to trash them because I may have to vote for them. And if neccessary, I will.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at April 06, 2011 08:54 PM (cDRYC)

hear hear. it's tough, it's dissalusioning in respects but I'm not rolling over for another Obama term. I really don't believe our country will stand up afterwards.

388 Heh - I am at a restaurant a.d a serious political discussion is breaking out - the waitress really likes Hillary because. 'we all know who was really in charge in the 90s'

389

"The Democrats *knew* Obama cheated in the primaries, but they voted for him."

uh, no. I supported Hillary in the primaries, if you want to see the documentary of all the fraud done in the primaries, its documented at

wewillnotbesilenced2008 dot com, seniors who were locked out of caucuses, dropped off at wrong places, etc.

I voted for a repub only the third time, there were many repubs who voted for Barry, and many Bush repubs who stayed home, 6 million repubs who voted for Bush stayed home, the crossover of Hillary supporters to Mccain/Palin could not overcome this deficiet

390 A skipped vote is a vote for Obama, Economic collapse, Cloward-Piven, and Universal Free Surprise Buttsex.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith

THIS!!!!!!

That is extrememly poignant and touching. I think you have clearly identified the reason for Universal Free Surprise Buttsex. 

391 maybe there was something in it that concerned them

Let's put it this way--would you go on record supporting the words of Barack Obama that could be used against future Republican presidents?

Note:  I do not in any way approve of going halfway in removing Qadaffi.  Some B-52 carpet bombing would do the trick a couple of days of a few A-10s followed by Belgian F-16s?  Probably not.

392

I'd also say that this poll on this thread doesn't mean anything in the long-run. We're a long ways out from the next election and we all know that situations are constantly changing. So it's impossible to  predict right now what's going to happen in 2012, especially considering all the variables.

393 There are supreme court nominations at stake, and you will rather sit it out; I'm not talking about working, volunteering, but simplely voting for that repub candidate.  Makes me see Palin fans in a completely different way.

Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-dem at April 06, 2011 08:51 PM (ACkhT)

What makes you think Schmuck or Mitt will nominate Cons. David Souter. Stevens..?

Democrats would kill any conservative nominations and I will tell you they will fold.

Sorry but I would be more inclined to vote for Paul over Huck. Though I would never vote for either.. Paul's foreign policy is less damaging then Huck's domestic one.

394 Lets see....Trump supported Charlie Rangel, Ted Kennedey, Nancy Pelosi, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Rahm Emanuel, Chuck Schumer, Harry Reid....... HMMMMMM..... Does that sound like someone who should garner even 1 vote in a republican primary? I guess some republican primary voters do not know about these facts.

395 I think the senators didn't side with Rand Paul because (1) they don't want to look like they're failing to support the troops and (2) some of them are interventionists who support Libya. So part of it is cowardice and another part is that they agree with Obama here.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 06, 2011 08:58 PM (UO6+e)

You are too kind.  Supporting the troops has nothing to do with passing a resolution confirming the Constitution.  Besides per O, the troops were getting out of the fray post haste.

The interventionists are too afraid of admitting they are interventionist to take a public stand.

396

Not all Palin supporters are that way.    I'll vote for whoever wins the nomination against deWon, and I just brought myself to that conclusion a week or so ago.   I will tell you that if it's Romeny or the huckster, I will be puking for days after, though.

Posted by: Steph at April 06, 2011 08:58 PM (AkdC5)

right.

397

I voted for a repub only the third time, there were many repubs who voted for Barry, and many Bush repubs who stayed home, 6 million repubs who voted for Bush stayed home, the crossover of Hillary supporters to Mccain/Palin could not overcome this deficiet

THIS, Barry won but not as dominant as people claimed he did. He just happen to win lots of states-states he's unpopular in

398 I've already decided that I'd vote for anybody against the Jugeared F*ckstick, but don't force me to gag back a gut full of piss and bile, knowing, like I did in 2008, that I'd be voting for a f*cking crusty old loser pr*ck, like McCain.

If Donald wants this gig bad enough, he needs to go for the jugular, cut some tits and balls, and present himself as a WINNER.

Or he can entertain me, which is acceptable as well.

399 Chemjeff, cup her ass for me next time she walks by.

400

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at April 06, 2011 09:02 PM (c5RQr)

crash and burn baby!

401 415, Is she hot? Get her to blow you before you call her a retarded whore. If you call her a retarded whore first she may not want to blow you. But then again, you know how those filthy, pantyless libtards are.

402 422 You are too kind.  Supporting the troops has nothing to do with passing a resolution confirming the Constitution.  Besides per O, the troops were getting out of the fray post haste.

The interventionists are too afraid of admitting they are interventionist to take a public stand.

Cover is cover regardless of motives.

403 Flapjackmaka,  If I remember correctly you are still in high school or the early years of college,  aren't you?

I am 62,  so old enough to be your grandmother.  Listen to Granny Marple!  It is YOUR DUTY TO VOTE!  You don't get to sit home and pout because Palin didn't get the nomination.  We are talking about saving this nation from disaster.

I will vote for anyone the GOP nominates.  Anyone.  even that fat flawn from Arkansas or Newt "Flip-flop" Gingrich, and I despise them both.

Another term for Obama and we will not recover.  We will have no allies except for the radical Muslims who will no doubt be emigrating here in droves.  Israel might end up as a grease spot on the Mediterranean.  Obama will consider his mission finished when we are all wandering the landscape barefoot and in rags,  fighting for scraps with the dogs.

Young people think they are invincible.  I remember this feeling, for I was once young,  too.  Your reponsiblity as a citizen is to defend this nation.  If Palin can do it,  I am all for her.  But if she does not get the nominations,  you are going to have to be a man,  suck it up,  and vote for whoever the nominee is.

It is your duty.  If you fail in this,  you fail your country.

404 By 2012 we'll be driving around in the wasteland scavenging gasoline,eating dogfood and trying to avoid homicidal homos wearing chaps with no pants.

405

OT- That Yahoo news article in the sidebar about Obama cavalierly suggesting that you  trade in your vehicle if gas prices are too high. I know Obama said that - I read about it elsewhere. However, the Yahoo article does not have that quote in it at this time. If it ever had the quote, then it's been edited out.

406

That is extrememly poignant and touching. I think you have clearly identified the reason for Universal Free Surprise Buttsex.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at April 06, 2011 09:00 PM (sJTmU)

Thanks.

I was a Literature Major, that means I'm all eloquent and shit.

407 So it's impossible to  predict right now what's going to happen in 2012, especially considering all the variables.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby

Gosh you're a smart lady!

Seriously, I for one really appreciate the links that you bring to the table on political issues.  You always have something intelligent and really informed to say. But don't get any ideas that I might like you  or anything, cause it's flames all the way down here at AoS. 

408

Posted by: Miss Marple at April 06, 2011 09:04 PM (Fo83G)

Thank you!

409
trying to avoid homicidal homos wearing chaps with no pants

Nathan Lane in...

H O M O
W I T H
A
S H O T G U N

410

Posted by: Miss Marple at April 06, 2011 09:04 PM (Fo83G)

exactly I voted at 19 in 08 and though Mac wasn't my guy I still voted for him.

411

i even hate to say openly i'd vote for anyone over Obama. because I'm a little nervous that the heads of republican party will think, alright let's throw in meghan mccain

 

 

 

 

heh

412 You know, Boehner should really let more members of Budget speak more often because these people are intelligent and know how to forcefully make arguments against Dem propaganda.

413 However, the Yahoo article does not have that quote in it at this time. If it ever had the quote, then it's been edited out.

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at April 06, 2011 09:04 PM (w41GQ)

As a news source, Yahoo is kind of like MSNBC. They have a long history of lefty bias, "disappearing" news stories, and passing off partisan propaganda as news.

I hate going to my ISP's web page because the "news items" that scroll on the front page and you can't get rid of read like the Workers World Weekly.

414 Remember, if Trump wins the birther battle he will be POTUS.  Just that simple.  he pulls that off and he will ride the accolades from that coup all the way, sucking all of the media oxygen out of all of the other second rate candidates being discussed and no A-List candidate would likely be willing to jump in at that point.

As for the birther issue in general, it is mostly useful as a culling tool for other Republican wannabees when the media tries to get them to denounce the 'crazy birthers'.  If a candidate can't handle an easy trap question like that they should go home and try again later.  The only acceptable responses are to either go all in like Trump or answer with something like this: "How the hell should I know?  You wanna know, go ask Obama since he is the only one in a position to answer the question and you are more likely to get an interview with him than I am.  If you asked me to put $100 on it right now I'd probably take the 'born in HI' side unless you were laying pretty good odds.... of course there would be no way of settling the bet and some people have a problem with that uncertainty.  But since you brought it up I have a few questions for you, why does asking the question make the questioner a racist, why has Obama spent over a million dollars avoiding the issue and why are you water carriers running around asking people like me about this issue when we are in no position to speak with any knowledge on the issue?"

415 I think some forget that we had a republican house and senate, and the white house, and did nothing on the budget, nothing on the border, actually tried to pass amnesty, added a new medicare entitlement, increased spending practically across the board, created a new bureaucracy the department of homeland insecurity. I could go on. Having an R in the white house means nothing. Who the R is means everything. I would hope we have learned that lesson by now.

416 230

btw ace, when are we having a thread on teh one's reaction to gas prices.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at April 06, 2011 08:04 PM (c5RQr)

Yeah, really. It'd be a perfect place to post a picture of BabBam's 8-ton armored limousine that's certain to get well over 8 MPG...

417

Flapjack, I don't think Palin would want you to sit it out, She would KNOW what that would mean to america.

just sayin

418
Obama cavalierly suggesting that you  trade in your vehicle if gas prices are too high.

The Return of Cash for Clunker -- but without the govt rebate.
This is cute of Obama. Can't afford gas, jerks.? Buy a smaller car.

419 watching Operation Repo, yes it's all fake but it's based on real stories. it's a great analogy for our gumbit crack problem. even in the face of someone saying "no more" they say fuck no we want our crack

420

OT, over at HillBuzz, they have a couple of youtubes of a young lady burning some of the the koran pages, she is receiting the verses, explaining them, and then burning those pages. This is part 2,Hillbuzz has both parts posted.

http://tinyurl.com/3tp443u

421

Democrats would kill any conservative nominations and I will tell you they will fold.

Sorry but I would be more inclined to vote for Paul over Huck. Though I would never vote for either.. Paul's foreign policy is less damaging then Huck's domestic one.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at April 06, 2011 09:02 PM (c5RQr)

You're young right? I hope you get a good job to pay for all this debt even though under Obama 25% of your peers can't find one, any job. By the time you reach 30 100% of our budget will go to pay interest on the debt and entitlements. You know what that means? It means your taxes at your McDees job will be about 50% so the government can fund the other crap.

So you sit home and play video games on election day and then get to work because I will be retired by the time you are in your 30's and you will owe me.

422 434 Gosh you're a smart lady!

Seriously, I for one really appreciate the links that you bring to the table on political issues.  You always have something intelligent and really informed to say. But don't get any ideas that I might like you  or anything, cause it's flames all the way down here at AoS. 

 

Thank you, though I'm young and still learning.

423 You know, my fellow conservatives, I want to vote against Obama, but it seems like it would just be a wasted vote for a loser, seeing as how Obama is going to win with at least 70 million votes with his awesome campaign machine.

So maybe we should just vote Obama so we can vote for a winner and not waste our vote.  What do you, my fellow conservatives, think?

Conservatively yours,

424 Coo-coo kachoo, Miss Marple, taking a strapping young boy under your wing like that.

425 IF Trump is called a birther, then heck the entire US state dept, and DMV are a bunch of birthers as well, you can't get a passport or a driver's license without your birth certificate.

426 nervous that the heads of republican party will think

Anyone else get the RNC survey asking about presidential nominees?

427 Trump has great experience bankrupting things, hell he could be president.

428 426 428 umm she is Not hot but thanks Oh she just made a Palin quip - 'she's dumber than rocks ' is the exact quote

429 Everyone keeps throwing out Ryan as a VP candidate (love it) or Rubio as a VP candidate (also love it), but the top of the ticket is full of vanilla politicians lacking any charisma - with the exception of Palin, who merely lacks electability.

How about Ryan/Rubio or Rubio/Ryan?  That ticket sizzles.

430 Dan, i hear ya, but, one vote is a certainty for future hell, One is a possible save , why choose a certain hell?

431

Posted by: Dan at April 06, 2011 09:08 PM (mXBxH)

but compare:

Bush- spent stupidly, loved the country, was a leader, good economy for most of his Presidency, wimpy on some social issues like immigration, spent billions a month

Obama- spends like there's a money tree, meh on the country, votes present, bad economy all 100% of his presidency so far,, spent trillions a month

i'll take Bush

432 Coo-coo kachoo, Miss Marple, taking a strapping young boy under your wing like that.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff

 

Ya think she's trying to seduce him, or sumpthin'?  Isn't she?

433 Oh she just made a Palin quip - 'she's dumber than rocks ' is the exact quote

Posted by: chemjeff at April 06, 2011 09:12 PM (6d8wx)

Would you explain to her that it's dumber than a BOX of rocks. If she is going to insult us at least get it right.

434 Lady Gaga for DNC nomination! She can frighten our enemies away with bizarro powers. She can balance the budget with concerts.

435 But since you brought it up I have a few questions for you, why does asking the question make the questioner a racist, why has Obama spent over a million dollars avoiding the issue and why are you water carriers running around asking people like me about this issue when we are in no position to speak with any knowledge on the issue?"

Posted by: John Morris at April 06, 2011 09:07 PM (sCRhB)

And with one bold stroke, John Morris is disqualified from holding public office.

Apparently, that's the rules, turning the tables on the lapdog media is against the fucking rules.

436 462 I can masterbate to her too!

437 ""You know, my fellow conservatives, I want to vote against Obama, but it seems like it would just be a wasted vote for a loser, seeing as how Obama is going to win with at least 70 million votes with his awesome campaign machine.

So maybe we should just vote Obama so we can vote for a winner and not waste our vote.  What do you, my fellow conservatives, think?""


I think Khan said it best right before he blew his silly ass up with the geneses project.

I will use my last breath and crawl to the voting booth if i have to JUST to pull the lever against that fucking kenyan marxist piece of shit.

438 seeing these democrat fools makes me think why the hell did I vote for a democrat all these years, I always considered myself a JFK democrat, I have no clue who the hell these radical fools are now this this party!

439 "You want everybody to act like adults, quit playing games and realize it is not my way or the highway," President Obama said in Pennsylvania

Coming from "The Won" almost makes you snort up your drink

440

Posted by: robtr at April 06, 2011 09:09 PM (MtwBb)

22 here, really pissed I have to pay all this crap off because young voters want to worship Obama and some seniors don't want to touch "the 3rd rail"

441 I've noticed that it is usually the stupidest,least informed Dems that throw out the Sarah Palin is so stupid stuff.It's because the only SP they know is actually Tina Fey.

442

Trump/Palin

slinks out of the room quietly

443

Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-dem at April 06, 2011 09:15 PM (ACkhT)

hell JFK's brothers were more radical then he ever was

444

Oh she just made a Palin quip - 'she's dumber than rocks ' is the exact quote

Remind her she's a waitress. Don't eat anything she brings you after that.

445

Thank you, though I'm young and still learning.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 06, 2011 09:09 PM (UO6+e)

You know, with all these people complimenting you, I just wanted to take the wind out of your sails and bring you back down to Earth before it swells your head.

But I can't, you do good.

446 all but if it is Romney or Huckabee, I will not vote period. They would do nothing to advance conservatism and would actually harm it and give us another liberal. The O is already neutered with a GOP house. I'm not going to give my first pres vote to someone like them.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at April 06, 2011 08:46 PM (c5RQr)

(sigh) You do realize the consequences of this folly, right?

This ain't Disneyworld, kid.

447 well, looks like the LSM might be sort of taking Trump seriously against their Messaih , Trump called a racist for going after Barry's nonexistant BC. Lets see who else Trump smokes out.

448 471 RFK was okay but than went nuts.Sirhan Sirhan did us a favor I regret to say.

449

22 here, really pissed I have to pay all this crap off because young voters want to worship Obama and some seniors don't want to touch "the 3rd rail"

Posted by: YRM (Not Very Optimistic Of The Future) at April 06, 2011 09:15 PM (RmjCD)

I used to feel sorry for young people because of the pending doom of the budget crisis and the economy. I so how they voted in 2008 and said fuck em.

450

Posted by: beedubya at April 06, 2011 09:17 PM (AnTyA)

my 1st Prez vote was for Mac, he wasn't my fav guy but I wanted to tell my Kids in the future I didn't fall for the Obama crap

451 477 Yep.There are exceptions of course,but for the most part,fuck them.

452 @175: "Iowa isnt going to pick him... SC isnt going to pick him.. the bible belt.. no way will they vote for him."

And look at the bang-up job they've done in selecting GOP presidential candidates since Reagan.  Bush I (lame), Dole (lamer), Bush II (won, but god-awful), McCain (see Dole).

453 I think Khan said it best right before he blew his silly ass up with the geneses project. I will use my last breath and crawl to the voting booth if i have to JUST to pull the lever against that fucking kenyan marxist piece of shit. That is so awesome and you don't have a hair on your ass if you don't belt those lines out loud and proud from behind the curtain in the voting booth.

454 My first prez election was Bush I vs Bubba.Didn't turn out too well.

455

LOL, Barry actually thinks this is 1995 and that a govt shutdown will help him. I completely blamed repubs and Gingrich in 1995, this time in 2011, Barry and his cowboy poetry friends I blame 100%. I think Paul Ryan is doing his best, and even Boehner is doing what he can, and this democrat turned indepenent appreciates that effort.

456

How do you continually pierce and talk over the wall of noise and curtain of stupidity that has descended over this country?

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at April 06, 2011 08:41 PM (sJTmU)

The people are catching on.

I look at the comments on news sites that ran 90%-10% pro-Obama for his first ten or twelve months. Those same sites now run at 70% against him. Some even more. Even the comments at The Politico run at least 50/50 anymore.

The country has woken up and smelled the diaper pail.

457

Posted by: steevy at April 06, 2011 09:19 PM (3QcXg)

I remember in senior year telling my fellow classmates the voting age should be raised to 21 and they sure as Hell didn't like that. One even said it should go down to 16.

458 467"You want everybody to act like adults, quit playing games and realize it is not my way or the highway," President Obama said in Pennsylvania

That is about the most hypocritical thing ever said in politics. Which is quite an achievement.

459 Oh who gives a shit??  I mean really.  Donald Trump is going to get elected as President about the same time Oprah gets crowned the Queen of England. 

460 I  too used to feel sorry for the younger voters who voted for Barry, not anymore. They are the ones who will feel the brunt of his assinine policies, and I'm not even talking unemployment.

461

Trump only gets traction because of the GOP leadership's unwillingness to support a conservative canidate.

Romney, Huckaboob, Pawlenty... all disgusting, spineless, useless, big-government-lovin'-constitution-hatin'-progressive RINO's.

but those are the only canidates the Party will "allow" us, so fuck the Party, they know what time it is bu they ignore it (heaven forbid someone may call them "extreme") so if we lose, it's on them.

462 "You want everybody to act like adults, quit playing games and realize it is not my way or the highway," President Obama said in Pennsylvania

That is about the most hypocritical thing ever said in politics. Which is quite an achievement.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 06, 2011 09:22 PM (bxiXv)

Really!  This from Mr. 'I Won'.

463

473 You know, with all these people complimenting you, I just wanted to take the wind out of your sails and bring you back down to Earth before it swells your head.

But I can't, you do good.

 

Thank you.  But to be honest, I'm trying to be careful. Eventually everyone here says something controversial and it's (obviously) hard to always know the right thing to say.

464 485 Ha,our history teacher(a lib female) made sure we were all registered to vote as seniors.My first actual vote was for the NYC mayor and I voted for Dinkins!I was conservative than but Rudy was an annoying nanny douche.

465

445 Heh...and a lot of folks living around me are still driving their clunkers because all the newer clunkers got shredded thanks to C4C I; none of them can afford new cars, and golly gee but the ol' 85 Ford F10 just isn't going for a lot of trade in...imagine that...can't think of why that would be the case.

I hate, hate, hate that condescending sack of cackwagon.  Miserable pile of dirty douchbag, sob, @^#^$%er....

He can't elected again; he just can't.

466 ""That is so awesome and you don't have a hair on your ass if you don't belt those lines out loud and proud from behind the curtain in the voting booth""


I'm Scorpio, and Italian. That means when god says vengeance is mine, I say the line starts behind me.

467 One even said it should go down to 16.

Posted by: YRM (Not Very Optimistic Of The Future) at April 06, 2011 09:22 PM (RmjCD)

Make it twelve and my dreams of President Bieber during the apocalypse could come true.  

468

OT idiot question of the day.

So I'm mixing up some Quikcrete to pour a small slab to support heavy ass water stations.

Where does the water go? Does it evaporate or is there a chemical reaction that completes a curing process? Or something?

469 I see a lot of people commenting on here with regard to Donald Trump in the same EXACT way liberals reacted to Sarah Palin.  I'm surprised at the level of bias and ignorance. 

470 Oh yeah, Trump is going all the way, baby, just like Giuliani did last time. The polls say so.

471 And I don't give a rat's ass about Trump as THE candidate.

I just love seeing him kick Obama in the balls every time he talks about him.

472

Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-dem at April 06, 2011 09:23 PM (ACkhT)

they base their whole Dem votes on "gay rights" and "anti-war" they have no clue about substance just that sticking it to who their parents are voting for will make them feel good. in 04 they were wearing Kerry shirts to school and the look on their faces when I walked in w/ a Bush sticker on my shirt was awesome. when the History teacher turned on the TV and Bush' victory speech was up I celebrated in front of all those fools.

473 491

473 You know, with all these people complimenting you, I just wanted to take the wind out of your sails and bring you back down to Earth before it swells your head.

But I can't, you do good.

 

Thank you.  But to be honest, I'm trying to be careful. Eventually everyone here says something controversial and it's (obviously) hard to always know the right thing to say.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 06, 2011 09:24 PM (UO6+e)

 

just say what you believe and own it, life here won't be any easy but you will win respect even from those that don't always agree with you.

474  I see a lot of people commenting on here with regard to Donald Trump in the same EXACT way liberals reacted to Sarah Palin.  I'm surprised at the level of bias and ignorance. 

Posted by: Greg at April 06, 2011 09:25 PM (nZXNe)

I'm the only one who mentioned raping him.  

475 Eventually everyone here says something controversial and it's (obviously) hard to always know the right thing to say. Really? I can't recall a single instance.

476 492 Actually now I don't think it was my first vote.I forget,I know I hated Rudy.

477 But to be honest, I'm trying to be careful. Eventually everyone here says something controversial and it's (obviously) hard to always know the right thing to say.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 06, 2011 09:24 PM (UO6+e)

I can't believe you actually typed that

What an insensitive jerk!!

478

Where does the water go? Does it evaporate or is there a chemical reaction that completes a curing process? Or something?

Posted by: ErikW at April 06, 2011 09:25 PM (Wr0u7)

Both, it takes about 28 days for concrete to fully cure. All that time the water it absorbed while being mixed is being squeezed out by the curing process. As the concrete gets denser there is no more room for water.

Concret will cure underwater.

479 458/459....Respectfully, I see it differently. I see Obama driving us off the cliff at 100 MPH, and Bush/GOP RINO/establishment driving us off at 60 MPH. Result.. We die in a fiery crash, but one kills us a few moments sooner than the other. I have discussed this few times here. I WAS the kind of guy who traveled around in 2008 on my own dime helping in swing states for the general. I did not support McCain in the primary, but when he won the nomination I was the good soldier and got in line. I left my very nice home in Illinois and flew to Ohio, Virginia, and Florida. I stayed in those 3 for months doing everything I could. I personally talked to people on the street and got some votes I think by sharing the facts. I was invigorated when Palin was chosen as VP, but I was doing all this even before that happened. I was the good soldier. I have had enough. I will no longer just get in line because the nominee has an R next to his/her name. I will not fly around and work my ass off in a situation when even if we win, we really lose because the coward republican will drive us off the cliff at 60 MPH and demand I be happy that he is not going 100 mph. My life is great. I don't need the aggravation anymore if I am fighting for another coward rino republican. I am quite content because either a courageous conservative will win the nomination and I will be thrilled to work my ass off, or we will get another coward candidate and I can officially retire from being a political activist and get back to taking trips, relaxing, and enjoying life.

480 OK boys three hour coffee break is over, go back to your keyboards and post something for those damn morons.

481

Where does the water go? Does it evaporate or is there a chemical reaction that completes a curing process? Or something?

Posted by: ErikW at April 06, 2011 09:25 PM (Wr0u7)

It's a chemical process. For full strength it should be kept damp for 30 days to fully cure to its maximum strength.

482 Does it evaporate or is there a chemical reaction that completes a curing process? Or something?

Posted by: ErikW at April 06, 2011 09:25 PM (Wr0u7)

yep

483

Posted by: steevy at April 06, 2011 09:24 PM (3QcXg)

most my Senior Teachers were GOP backers, in 9th grade when Bush VS Kerry happen it was 50/50 w/ vocal support for Bush among the teachers and vocal support for Kerry among the students. I made them eat so much crow the day after the election.

484

First, they came for "Tiger" Woods ....

HONOLULU (AP) -- One of President Barack Obama's close friends has been arrested in Honolulu on suspicion of soliciting a prostitute.

Honolulu police say Robert "Bobby" Titcomb was one of four men arrested in an undercover sting operation late Monday and released on $500 bail.

The 49-year-old Titcomb attended Punahou School in Honolulu with Obama. The two often golf, play basketball, go to the beach and dine together when the president returns home to Hawaii for vacation.

485

LOL, she calls Lindsay Grahman "jackass" and then says "come arrest me for burning the koran", etc.  oh wow, this video is worth watching, Hillbuzz has it posted as does the Weasel Zippers blog site.

http://tinyurl.com/3dqynjd

486 Here's another link to the Yahoo/AP story with fuck-face's "you might want to think about a trade-in" quip.

487 465 well she ain't that bright

488 Budget just adopted an amendment that gives the possibility of cutting more wasteful defense spending. The vote was 33-5.

489 512 We know.We were trying to find out the sex of the "prostitute".

490

Thank you.  But to be honest, I'm trying to be careful. Eventually everyone here says something controversial and it's (obviously) hard to always know the right thing to say.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 06, 2011 09:24 PM (UO6+e)

What did I say to deserve that bullshit?

491 so Dan we can count you in the crash and burn types that will let Obama get another 4 years to teach the GOP a lesson huh?

492

tami also;

He said Republicans had driven the economy into a ditch and then stood by and criticized while Democrats pulled it out. Now that progress (hah)has been made, he said, “we canÂ’t have(GOP is special interest ?) special interetsts (jiminy crazy innit)sitting shotgun. We gotta have middle class families up in front. We donÂ’t mind the Republicans joining us. They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back.”

oct 2010

493

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 06, 2011 09:27 PM (hlY6R)

No. You have nothing to worry about.

494 Oh good, Greg is here to lecture us on tolerance or something.

495 516 Ah yes,let us cut spending for one of the key duties of government actually SPECIFIED in the constitution.

496 My problem with Trump is that he supports liberals. This is documented and he makes no secret of it. I have this crazy idea that our nominee should be someone who ya know helps conservatives get elected, and not liberals. Call me crazy!

497 501 491 473  

just say what you believe and own it, life here won't be any easy but you will win respect even from those that don't always agree with you.

Too true.

498 But to be honest, I'm trying to be careful. Eventually everyone here says something controversial and it's (obviously) hard to always know the right thing to say.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 06, 2011 09:24 PM (UO6+e)

Wow...just wow. Are you trying to start a flame war or something?

499

Concret will cure underwater.

Posted by: robtr at April 06, 2011 09:28 PM (MtwBb)

Concrete made from hydraulic cement will. I wouldn't try it with Quickcrete.

500 So.. should I just slit my throat now?

501 Dan we can count you in the crash and burn types that will let Obama get another 4 years to teach the GOP a lesson huh?

Yeah, cause I'm looking forward to the road kill and dandelion greens diet.  Until the dirt diet kicks in anyway.

502 524 Trump is R like Bloomberg was.

503

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 06, 2011 09:31 PM (7utQ2)

and how he's a conservative and all even though he cheers on libs

504 526 Wow...just wow. Are you trying to start a flame war or something?

That takes me back to the olden flame wars of yore... _{*sniff sniff*}

505 I thought he was banned for being annoying during the election. Maybe he has some ultralib polls from places like media matters to defend.

506

Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-dem at April 06, 2011 09:30 PM (ACkhT)

Saw that right after Graham stepped in it.  Any fatwas yet?  Calls from DoD?

507 My problem with Trump is that he supports liberals.

My problems with Trump are a) he's a theoretical Republican at this point and b) is all bad hair and no cattle.  His entire "empire" is a giant pile of revolving debt.

508

jewells45

no

509 Oh good, Greg is here to lecture us on tolerance or something.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 06, 2011 09:31 PM (7utQ2)

I think this is a different Greg.

510 524 My problem with Trump is that he supports liberals. This is documented and he makes no secret of it. I have this crazy idea that our nominee should be someone who ya know helps conservatives get elected, and not liberals. Call me crazy!

Posted by: Dan at April 06, 2011 09:32 PM (mXBxH)

 

hear ya, i'm no Trump fan, he's serious about his money, but I don't think he's serious about the Constitution, not in the way TEA Party folks are.

511 43% of the country flat out doesn't believe Obama is an American citizen. Another 23% isn't sure. Only a small percentage actually believe he is qualified by our Constitution to be president.

This sounds just like the kind of numbers 9/11 troofers throw around.  I call BULLSHIT, all-caps, boldface BULLSHIT.   Get a fucking grip.

512 My first vote was for Reagan. Never voted for a dem in my life. Jimmy fucknuts Carter made sure of that.

513

Thank you. But to be honest, I'm trying to be careful. Eventually everyone here says something controversial and it's (obviously) hard to always know the right thing to say.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 06, 2011 09:24 PM (UO6+e)

You're doing better than I am so far. (shrug)

You can't always say the right thing, and someone will always get mad at you. Just learn and keep going.

514

I think this is a different Greg.

Posted by: Tami at April 06, 2011 09:37 PM (VuLos)

Meh.

Gregtato, Gregtatah

515

Dan

Trump has supported Clinton and then Mccain/Palin,  yes that is true, there were many dems who supported Mccain/Palin, there are many former dems like Hillbuzz (and voters like me) who support Palin, there are no circles of exclusiveness here of people who are dems and supported Mccain/Palin in 2008.  In the general in 2012, there will be 2 sides, for Barry or against Barry. I hope people remember that.

516 You morons should appreciate my hate for Rudy as Mayor.He closed just about every titty bar where I live,including my favorite hangout.

517 My first vote was for Reagan. Never voted for a dem in my life. Jimmy fucknuts Carter made sure of that.

You and I belong to what I suspect is a rather large club.

518

Gregtato, Gregtatah

LOL

519

Did Mr. President Douchebag Cockknocker McFuckstick have a smartass comment about rising food prices too?

We all don't have a lardassed, blue whale cow of a wife we can trade in for one that eats less like a certain POTUS does

520 537 Oh good, Greg is here to lecture us on tolerance or something.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 06, 2011 09:31 PM (7utQ2)

I think this is a different Greg.

Posted by: Tami at April 06, 2011 09:37 PM (VuLos)

Two douchebags with the same name? I guess. It's like a Brady Bunch reunion. Where's Peter and Bobby?

521

back from wawa.

But we all know what these polls are... crap? No candidates have announced.

522 Concrete made from hydraulic cement will. I wouldn't try it with Quickcrete.

Posted by: Ed Anger at April 06, 2011 09:33 PM (7+pP9)

All concrete will, I am not sure what you mean by hydraulic cement? I've poured not alot but 4 or 5 hundred yards underwater and always used a 6 sack mix with some high early or other curing additive added to it. As long as it's in a form it works fine, if it's not like a footing or something the top get's sandy and weak

523
You ppl are all nuts. The Donald will never be nominated as the GOP presidential candidate.

He's doing a great job, however, of kicking Barry in the nuts every time he speaks. Learn to enjoy it for what it's worth. You might never see such a spectacle again for the rest of your lives. Even you young'uns.

524 Rudy was awesome. Cleaned that filthy hole up as much as it could be.

525

Huh. Well, we've been dicking around building concrete forms and pouring them for a couple days now (welcome to golf course maint.) and we were wondering about the process and not caring too much.

 

526 545 "Closed them" is not quite correct,he just didn't allow the girls to show titties anymore ,the closing came soon after.

527

That takes me back to the olden flame wars of yore... _{*sniff sniff*}

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 06, 2011 09:35 PM (UO6+e)

Da hell?

You really are trying to start something, aren't you?

528 Nothing wrong with Dan's take on it. He used a "cliff" scenario. That doesn't seem to scare anyone though. If you've read any of Monty's posts, and you give one-half of three fourths of a shzt about this country, you won't fall for the old Bob Dole Again! trick.

The Tea Party thing has a glimmer of a chance to right this ship. The "anyone but Obama" types are furiously trying to stuff that chance down a very deep, dark hole.

Boned is boned people. I won't join in the next cluster fzck either. I'll be busy making damn sure you people keep off my lawn.

529 553 I LIKED some of those filthy holes.I was young.

530 Ace,

I think that there's a very good chance we're doing this.  I bet if you ran a straw poll on Palin OR Trump OR anyone else, you will find it is very doable.

Just throwing my two cents in, you know, for what that's worth.

elspeth

531 519, depends on the nominee. If I am so unreasonable and illogical, surely you could find a few people to replace my vote when you work the ground for the nominee. As I explained. I have not always been this way, far from it, but I can only get slapped in the face and stolen from so many times before I walk away.

532 Do people really want to trade one narcissistic asshole for another?  I hope this is a flash in the pan and Trump goes back to doing whatever the fuck it is he does.  I am enjoying the daily jabs at McFuckstick however.

533 Never have voted for a dem even in elections without republicans running like Sheriff. I couldn't do it. I refuse to compromise with evil and I hate them all too much.

534 Well, we've been dicking around building concrete forms and pouring them for a couple days now (welcome to golf course maint.) and we were wondering about the process and not caring too much.

As I understand it, the whole process depends on the Higgs boson, magnetism, and legendary, unpublished nude photos of Sheena Easton.  The exact details are classified.

535

552
 Ed said,You ppl are all nuts .

 well yes i am.

agree laughingly with this.

As For Trump:

He's doing a great job, however, of kicking Barry in the nuts every time he speaks. Learn to enjoy it for what it's worth. You might never see such a spectacle again for the rest of your lives. Even you young'uns.

536 Rudy did alot of good but he was a nanny stater.Those of you who only know the later more conservative Rudy didn't see it.He was forever talking about providing "services".He was a big gubmint,nanny state guy.Pro abortion,terrible on and kind of firearm,toy or real and even tightly legislate pocket knives.

537 @552 Trump doesn't need the GOP.  I bet the TEA Party would be glad to have him.

538

You really are trying to start something, aren't you?

Posted by: beedubya at April 06, 2011 09:42 PM (AnTyA)

She always comes in here and stirs up crap, I don't know why.

539

That takes me back to the olden flame wars of yore... _{*sniff sniff*}

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 06, 2011 09:35 PM (UO6+e)

Da hell?

You really are trying to start something, aren't you?

Posted by: beedubya at April 06, 2011 09:42 PM (AnTyA)

What are you lookin' at Mike Castle/John McCain/Shep Smith just cause he's on Fox lover?

540 The 2012 budget unsurprisingly made it out of committee (Budget) 22-16 with few changes, except for a few more cuts here and there.

541 @394: "Well, first thank you for answering. Second, I think its  very revealing that you would rather sit out than vote for as close to a conservative as possible against Barry. Makes me completely rethink Palin supporters. There are supreme court nominations at stake, and you will rather sit it out; I'm not talking about working, volunteering, but simplely voting for that repub candidate.  Makes me see Palin fans in a completely different way."

Why? A lot depends on where she lives.  I'm in California - my vote doesn't count for shit either way, as Cali will always go communist.  If she's in a similar state, so what if she doesn't vote.  It also doesn't matter if she's in some place like Utah, that will pretty much always go GOP.  Her vote only matters if she's in a swing state.

542 544, if it was just that I would be ok with it, but Its not just that. I hate the tiny url thing, but just do a quick search and you will see Trump has supported some of the dems that are the furthest left in America. His business interests are no excuse. Many people do business and also have principles. I am a conservative. I support conservatives. I do not support liberals or candidates who support liberals. That is my position and I think it makes perfect sense. People, and I am one of them attack RINOS, but even RINOS don't support Charlie Rangel and Harry Reid along with a motley crew of leftists like Trump has.

543 I watched Rudy clean up my in-laws neighborhood. Anyone who preferred Dinkens is nuts.

544 In the general in 2012, there will be 2 sides, for Barry or against Barry. I hope people remember that.

Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-dem at April 06, 2011 09:39 PM (ACkhT)

The Republicans can fix that problem el quicko. If they nominate the next version of McCain, then there will be 2 choices, both on the same side. People will notice that.

545 567

You really are trying to start something, aren't you?

Posted by: beedubya at April 06, 2011 09:42 PM (AnTyA)

She always comes in here and stirs up crap, I don't know why.

Posted by: robtr at April 06, 2011 09:46 PM (MtwBb)

 

hey! that's my job...

546 566 @552 Trump doesn't need the GOP. I bet the TEA Party would be glad to have him.

Posted by: elspeth at April 06, 2011 09:45 PM (cMGUc)

Yeah, we should split the vote, that will work.

547 FYI, I live in Illinois so it is not like my voter matters anyway lol.

548 As I understand it, the whole process depends on the Higgs boson, magnetism, and legendary, unpublished nude photos of Sheena Easton.  The exact details are classified.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 06, 2011 09:43 PM (7utQ2)

In a pinch, Amber from The Price is Right can make all troubles disappear.

Drew Carey with a head of hair throws it all out of whack, tho.

549

She always comes in here and stirs up crap, I don't know why.

Posted by: robtr at April 06, 2011 09:46 PM (MtwBb)

Ace...clean up on Aisle 491.

...(sigh) I guess the ban hammer is the only way to stop this nonsense

550 Yeah, we should split the vote, that will work.

This, by the way, is what Team Obama is counting on.  A Trump, a Paul....anyone to siphon of 3-6% an be the Republican Nader.

551

Uh, I would seriously be careful about joking-around about that.

552 ""Why? A lot depends on where she lives.  I'm in California - my vote doesn't count for shit either way, as Cali will always go communist.  If she's in a similar state, so what if she doesn't vote.  It also doesn't matter if she's in some place like Utah, that will pretty much always go GOP.  Her vote only matters if she's in a swing state.""


It matters for other reasons other than just winning. The fucking dems will use a TWO vote victory as a mandate. You need to happen what happened in Wisconsin last night, they threw everything they had into this fight and the best they could come up with is a virtual tie. A much more even vote tally might have knocked "some" of the fucking smug look from the jug eared fuck's face in '08 had the vote been much closer, but a lot of conservatives stayed home. You have to stand and be counted.

553 @430: "It is YOUR DUTY TO VOTE!"

Fuck that noise; only tyrants make voting mandatory.  Vote or don't vote as you see fit.  The freedom to do as you choose - we're supposed to stand for that.

554 Let him keep kicking barry in the nuts but to be considered for POTUS under the GOP is out the question. He recently endorsed democrats.

555 If I had my video editing studio down here, I'd alter the "Leave Britney Alone!" video to say "Leave 80'sbaby Alone!"

I'm sure she'd be as thrilled as Barry was to get his No-ball Peace Prize.

556

Quit your bitching about the rising costs to heat your home.

Just get a new one.

557 ErikW, My first platoon sergeant had a stock answer for eager young soldiers who wanted to know how things work: "It uses FM." "What's FM, Sergeant?" "Fucking MAGIC, private. Do I look like fucking Mr. Wizard to you?

558
> 579 A Trump, a Paul....anyone to siphon of 3-6% an be the Republican Nader.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 06, 2011 09:53 PM (7utQ2)

Ron Paul!!

559 Fuck that noise; only tyrants make voting mandatory.  Vote or don't vote as you see fit.  The freedom to do as you choose - we're supposed to stand for that.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at April 06, 2011 09:54 PM (xy9wk)

True...BUT...you do relinquish your right to bitch if you do not

560 584 Let him keep kicking barry in the nuts but to be considered for POTUS under the GOP is out the question. He recently endorsed democrats.
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at April 06, 2011 09:55 PM (c5RQr)

As soon as he "announces" someone will produce a list of his endorsees, and how much money he gave to Dems in the last ten years.

That last phrase felt good to type: "how much money he gave to Dems in the last ten years."

There won't be enough political viagra left to keep this raging hardon for Trump that so many seem to have.

561 580

Uh, I would seriously be careful about joking-around about that.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 06, 2011 09:53 PM (UO6+e)

 

my real name is Honey "Danger" Badger, what is this "careful" you speak of?

562 589, I think you are right about how that will play out!

563 @581: "It matters for other reasons other than just winning."

Winning is the only thing.  Within a couple weeks, no one other than political junkies remember the vote totals.

564 Fred was a pussy. He was completely shut down in every debate. He sucked.

565 Guys like Dan, Cube, and me, we'll probably vote. Maybe. Write ins, or some loser third party.

Two Presidential elections back we could have avoided the waterfall with a McCain type. If Repubs put up McCain-Again again, and he wins (an empty pack of cigs could win against Mr. Short Form), the waterfall is inevitable.

566 @588: "True...BUT...you do relinquish your right to bitch if you do not"

How so?  Not voting (actively not voting, as opposed to simply blowing it off) is simply stating that you have no confidence in either candidate to do a good job.  If we get the standard choice of SOCIALISM NOW! vs. Better Managed Socialism Soon!, I have no right to complain if I don't vote for one of the Socialists?

Sorry, pal.  No politician owns my vote.  They can earn it, but they aren't entitled to it.

567

"Fucking MAGIC, private. Do I look like fucking Mr. Wizard to you?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 06, 2011 09:57 PM (hlY6R)

Heh, I've been told for years that I think too much about things which works out okay because I always end up being a problem solver and I enjoy doing it.

568

All concrete will, I am not sure what you mean by hydraulic cement? I've poured not alot but 4 or 5 hundred yards underwater and always used a 6 sack mix with some high early or other curing additive added to it. As long as it's in a form it works fine, if it's not like a footing or something the top get's sandy and weak

Posted by: robtr at April 06, 2011 09:40 PM (MtwBb)

There a buttload of cement types:

Cement used in construction is characterized as hydraulic or non-hydraulic. Hydraulic cements (e.g., Portland cement) harden because of hydration, chemical reactions that occur independently of the mixture's water content; they can harden even underwater or when constantly exposed to wet weather. The chemical reaction that results when the anhydrous cement powder is mixed with water produces hydrates that are not water-soluble. Non-hydraulic cements (e.g., lime and gypsum plaster) must be kept dry in order to retain their strength.

Since Quickcrete is Portland based I guess it would work okay. Hydraulic cement was only re-discovered somewhere around the late 1700 - early 1800s.

569 594 Guys like Dan, Cube, and me, we'll probably vote. Maybe. Write ins, or some loser third party.

Two Presidential elections back we could have avoided the waterfall with a McCain type. If Repubs put up McCain-Again again, and he wins (an empty pack of cigs could win against Mr. Short Form), the waterfall is inevitable.

Posted by: K~Bob at April 06, 2011 10:07 PM (lWgXr)

 

right on, I will vote and I will not vote for any dems, but if the GOP hands me a RINO I'll vote third-party or do a write-in.

570 I will personally break the fingers of anyone who votes for that self-centered, self-aggrandizing, lying, cheating sonofabitch.

571 #582   Duty doesn't mean "required by law." 

It just means that if you take your responsibiliies as a citizen seriously,  you will vote.  If you don't,  you can stay on the sofa and watch ESPN or something.

But people who brag about NOT voting should not show up here later bitching about what new fresh hell Obama is dragging us through.  If such people do,  I will be a very angry old lady.

I sure wish I hadn't given up my martinis for Lent.  Some of you people are enough to drive one to drink!

572

I'll have an extra one for you, Miss Marple.

*cheers*

573 I think someone is trying to tell us something:

HONOLULU (AP) -- One of President Barack Obama's close friends has been arrested in Honolulu on suspicion of soliciting a prostitute. Honolulu police say Robert "Bobby" Titcomb was one of four men arrested in an undercover sting operation late Monday and released on $500 bail.

The 49-year-old Titcomb attended Punahou School in Honolulu with Obama. The two often golf, play basketball, go to the beach and dine together when the president returns home to Hawaii for vacation.

Obama's family has also attended barbeques at Titcomb's beachside home in Waialua.

Titcomb and Obama last spent time together in Hawaii during Obama's most recent vacation over the Christmas and New Year's holidays. The White House had no comment. <=

Titcomb has not publicly responded to the charges, and he wasn't immediately available for comment.

574

Well, at least I know what a debutante coterie means.

Suck it, O'Reilly.

575 Haven't read them all but a few thoughts:

1. Trump being a businessman has likely donated to and offered public support for many a Democrat in the past. It's analogous to paying protection money to Fat Tony and Jimmy Two Times.

2. Trump does have name recognition. Everyone knows who he is, which in a way works for him because there aren't any surprises.

3. I do believe that a big part of the reason that Trump shows well in this poll is that he's kicking Obama in the nuts. He's the only potential candidate who is doing this. That makes the news and it also appeals to people who despise Obama.

4. Trump can afford to kick Obama in the nuts, literally. He doesn't need to run and he doesn't need to be elected so he has no reason to be a pussy like any of the others. Politics is everything to those guys, they have nothing else, so they have to follow the conventional wisdom.

5. People know that Trump isn't afraid to say what he thinks and I think this is very appealing because no one trusts politicians.

I doubt he will run, he'd have to take too big of a pay cut, I don't think he's anywhere near the ideal candidate, I don't know anything about the rest of his politics, but I hope he stays in for a while because at the very least he will say things that a lot of people are thinking. In doing so, he may also embolden one or two of the candyasses who are also going to run.

If the choice were Trump vs. Obama I wouldn't even think twice.

576
Titcomb and Obama last spent time together in Hawaii during Obama's most recent vacation over the Christmas and New Year's holidays. The White House had no comment. <=

Titcomb has not publicly responded to the charges, and he wasn't immediately available for comment.

Posted by: Miss Marple at April 06, 2011 10:17 PM (Fo83G)

 

the vacation he went on without the First Wookie?

I'll take it, but I'd rather get him on something better like getting us into a war without congressional approval or violation of eligiblity laws.

577 They call me MISTER Titcomb!

578 Here's hoping Titcomb is queen of Honolulu. Cheers!

579

Miss Marple, we have been waiting for Dear Leader's friends to identify themselves. Looks as if he does have one titmouse on the island. Now if only the bullies would identify themselves...

580 They are really flogging that CNN story about "Trump gave money to GOP & Dem lawmakers" (9000 results in Google for that exact phrase).

Big problem for Trump: he is the corporation. People who are in a law firm or corporation that gave money to Dems can still run as R's because of plausible unconnected-ness (I just made that up). Trump has no such plausible unconnected-ness.

He gave money to Rahm. Who else did he support?

581 He gave money to Rahm. Who else did he support?

Posted by: K~Bob at April 06, 2011 10:35 PM (lWgXr)

Exactly. Trump is an opportunistic piece of shit. He's completely untrustworthy.

582 Flapjackmaka....if it is Romney or Huckabee, I will not vote period.

If you won't use your right to vote for you, will you use it for me, please.
I'm a Permanent Legal Resident. I love this country as much as my birth country.
At 52, I am not all that concerned for my own future, but, I sure as heck wouldn't not exercise my right to vote in 2012, for ANY reason, if I had the right.
While American's are still allowed to vote, please, vote any "R" for me : )

583 I wonder how many of those "Palin was on a reality show, therefore she's not electable" clowns are rooting for Trump?

584 Son: But Father, couldn't we all just vote for anyone but Obama?

Father: I'm sorry my loves, but it has to be: Medical Experiments

585

Titcomb may be the hopenchange we were waiting for.

586 Yeah but Thompson at least has a strong sense of patriotism. Trump doesn't, it's all dollah dollah bills, y'all.

587

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 06, 2011 06:57

 

Wow. It didn't even take twenty minutes for one of the resident fucktards to use this post as an excuse to slam Romney. Useless douchebag.

588 Tim Pawlenty lost me when he attacked Trump for highlighting the missing long form birth cert....
 Pawlenty ;" I know Obama has a birth certificate because I saw it on CNN"
 Sorry Ace, but I cannot, in good conscience vote fore anyone who gets thier info from CNN, Period. BTW ACE, Trump is launching an asymmetrical  political attack on POTUS Obama with many follow up hits ready to go... Obama has no defense to this with  line of attack without Complete, unedited disclosure!  All other potential candidates other than Sarah Palin are schoolyard  wusses! 

589 TRUMP: I have people in Hawaii and they cannot believe what they're finding.

590

That hair waggle make me wanna puke, regardless of affiliation....

591 @600: "Duty doesn't mean "required by law." "

No, it just implies a moral obligation.  Again, it's something that must be done.

"It just means that if you take your responsibiliies as a citizen seriously,  you will vote."

So again, when I have a choice between a socialist and a socialist, I am required to vote for one of them?  Sorry, but no.  If neither candidate will act in the best interests of the nation, will not follow the constitution, will not hold the government responsible to the people, then no - I will not vote.  If you vote for limited socialism, you're still condoning it.  If you voted for fewer liberties taken away than the other guy, you're still condoning it.

592

Fred is too busy pimping reverse mortgages these days.

C'mon, let a birthah play!

593 as has been said: trump isn't lobbing grenades, he's doing some Alpha destruction type shit. and as M A N Y other morons have asked, WHO ELSE IS DOING THIS? do I wish Col. West, Rep. Ryan, et al were 'experienced' or 'ready' for the "call up?" absolutely. but we have to live in the NOW. trump ia asking the questions that, hate to bring this in, the 'silent majority' is asking. or at least pondering. let him make his noise. and remember to punch the clown. or don't punch down. whatever.

594 Trump is Scotty. He's good at his job, and fun to listen to, but he's no Captain Kirk.

595 I'm digging Trump out there taking shots at BO everyday. A lot of people see a fighter in Trump, compared to the politically correct wusses in the GOP Trump comes across as having a pair. Conservatives on our side of the aise are so starved, so desperate they will turn to someone like Trump. I find it tempting myself. I do think in the end we would regret electing Trump. I heard him talking about how american airports are third world quality. He sounds like another Teddy Roosevelt to me. The conservative movement might have been better off in the long run if Bush had not beat Gore. Unfortunately we can't afford to let BO have another 4 years to expose liberalism for what it is, a huge lie followed by living hell. If I can't have Palin, Cain, or Pawlenty I'll take Trump over Daniels, Romney, Barbour, Huntsman, and the rest of the pathetic field of blueblood Republicans.

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597 There won't be enough political viagra left to keep this raging hardon for Trump that so many seem to have. Posted by: K~Bob at April 06, 2011 10:00 PM (lWgXr) No one actually supports Trump. He's just making the election fun until the serious candidates announce.

598

It it takes Trump to get rid of Obama - then so be it.

 

 

599 Trump is a liberal on social issues which appeals to many Democrats, what Trump is doing is undercutting Obama. Trump at this point admitted he has private investigators looking into Obama's records, specifically hospital records to determine IF Obama was born in Hawaii. So far no hospital records, bills, doctor bills, etc have been found! But then we are talking about finding records 40+ years ago. I think his plan is not to run for POTUS but to give enough cover for another Democrat to run for the nomination to derail Obama like Kennedy did to Carter.

600

Trump has always been a liberal democrat in the past.  I don't trust him as far as I can throw him.  Honestly, as someone else on this thread suggested, I believe he is trying to help Hillary, who he supported in 2008.  Who would benefit most from Obama being tossed out?  Hillary's favorability rating is still in the 60s... Maybe Trump is just doing her dirty work... That's my theory anyway.

 

There is way too much liberalism in Trump's past for conservatives to actually consider him.  I  am floored that anyone is actually falling for his "newly converted" routine.  It was only a few months ago when he donated to Rahm Emanuel's mayoral campaign.  Trump has a history of supporting universal health care.  He has called himself a dem and said the economy does better under dems.

 

Trump told Human Events that he would solve the deficit by getting other countries who owe us money to pay up.  Not one word about cutting spending.  Does he not know how much money WE owe China??  If we elect this fool, we deserve what we get.

601 Here's a link to Trump being interviewed on the TODAY Show: http://tinyurl.com/3cvobtk I'll say this: He's got balls. And I do believe I sense ... fear in the faces of the MSM scum.

602 About this ,you titbrain liptards?  You want to talk about Trump and his  bankrupt companies?  Well lets talk about mr. BLOW JOB CLINTON , THE MAN THAT YOU VOTED FOR THAT BANKRUPTED  his own state of Arkansas, and how about Jimmy beer belly.Carter who bankrupted his state of Georgia. If bankrupting the country is the way to take our country back then we will get a experienced person in Donald Trump. He wants to see the birth certificate and so do I,so what? Just show the damn thing and quit the cover up! Hes a fake and you know it. Oh,one more thing. CUT THE RACIST BULLSHIT OFF,CAUSE IT`S GETTING KIND OF OLD. One more thing, assholes. His B.C. says African has his race.WRONG!  African is not a race ,it is a nationality. BLACK is the race. A person born in Africa is called an African, just like I am an person from from Italy and called an Italian.

603 Thank you for this article.