October 17, 2011

Two Predictions, Now Proven True
— Ace

Victor Davis Hanson does a victory lap (for all of us) on the 2008 case against Obama, proven disastrously true.

The skeptics of 2008 proved prescient; those who demonized them should be embarrassed. And we should remember that candidates, of both parties, will govern mostly as they campaign. Slips are not indiscretions, but often will prove in hindsight windows of the soul.

A reader also sends in this op-ed, from April 2009:

First, the population was dumbed down through a politicized and substandard education system based on pop culture, rather then the classics. Americans know more about their favorite TV dramas then the drama in DC that directly affects their lives. They care more for their "right" to choke down a McDonalds burger or a BurgerKing burger than for their constitutional rights. Then they turn around and lecture us about our rights and about our "democracy". Pride blind the foolish.

Then their faith in God was destroyed, until their churches, all tens of thousands of different "branches and denominations" were for the most part little more then Sunday circuses and their televangelists and top protestant mega preachers were more then happy to sell out their souls and flocks to be on the "winning" side of one pseudo Marxist politician or another. Their flocks may complain, but when explained that they would be on the "winning" side, their flocks were ever so quick to reject Christ in hopes for earthly power....

The final collapse has come with the election of Barack Obama. His speed in the past three months has been truly impressive. His spending and money printing has been a record setting, not just in America's short history but in the world. If this keeps up for more then another year, and there is no sign that it will not, America at best will resemble the Wiemar Republic and at worst Zimbabwe.

These past two weeks have been the most breath taking of all. First came the announcement of a planned redesign of the American Byzantine tax system, by the very thieves who used it to bankroll their thefts, loses and swindles of hundreds of billions of dollars.

This op-ed was published in... Pravda.

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1 Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: © Sponge at October 17, 2011 09:59 AM (UK9cE)

2 In New Russia,
Pravda publishes you

Posted by: roman maroni at October 17, 2011 10:00 AM (KCCgc)

3 I have to say, Pravda's really gone downhill.

Posted by: Walter Duranty at October 17, 2011 10:02 AM (QKKT0)

4
And as Obama was sworn in I said, "We're at a point in our nation's history when our federal government is controlled by a college faculty."

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 17, 2011 10:03 AM (sqkOB)

5 Putin is just jealous and mad that Russia doesn't have a bold young leader like the USA.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 17, 2011 10:04 AM (Hx5uv)

6 VDH is not the type of guy you want to bet against.

Posted by: sifty at October 17, 2011 10:05 AM (4CSeG)

7 We must work diligently to solve the myriad problems facing our country. First step is to work where Obama has failed and immediately institute a carbon tax if we're ever going to calm the raging Gaia.

Posted by: Romney 2012!!! at October 17, 2011 10:06 AM (D5hxK)

8 I remember in 2008 I was convinced that Obama would not win because he was a moonbat and America is not a moonbat country.  I was shocked on election night. The only way anyone could have failed to notice that Obama was a screeching moonbat is willful blindness.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 17, 2011 10:06 AM (Hx5uv)

9 I don't let those who say they didn't "Know" about obama off the hook. I rip them a new asshole and tell them to call me before they vote next time. As you can imagine I am not gong to get to many Hanukkah or XMass cards this holiday season.

Posted by: nevergiveup at October 17, 2011 10:07 AM (i6RpT)

10 That story in the sidebar about the lesbians getting 86ed for fondling in a hot tub and this story have a lot in common.  Both are indicative of the tremendous gap between image and reality.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 17, 2011 10:09 AM (Hx5uv)

11 Me too, Walrus. Really didn't think he could possibly win. Was in Operation Chaos after all! thinking Hillary would win, but Barry would not. How wrong was I. And how dangerous he is.

Posted by: HeartlessBlackOrchid at October 17, 2011 10:10 AM (SB0V2)

12 VDH is not the type of guy you want to bet against.

This is one of the reasons I like being a conservative; Smart guys like VDH are on my side.

Posted by: OregonMuse at October 17, 2011 10:10 AM (YWSZ7)

13
And as Obama was sworn in I said, "We're at a point in our nation's history when our federal government is controlled by a college faculty."
Posted by: Soothsayer



By the Faculty?  I wish.

More like being run by some Keffiyeh draped TA working on the fifth year of her two year master's program.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 17, 2011 10:11 AM (/qkBU)

14 I read the Pravda article. God, I hate to say it, but there's not one thing in it to take issue with, for my part. I guess "I hate to say it" means I'm old school, and would have discounted anything in Pravda, over anything written in our awesome press. In the past-because after all our press has America's interests at heart, right? And Pravda doesn't, right? Where the hell do I live, now? It feels like a fucking Shakespearean tragedy.
And as far as I'm concerned, VDH may be the new voice for what I believe in, especially since Buckley's gone.

Posted by: tubal at October 17, 2011 10:12 AM (BoE3Z)

15 By the way, are there any hot chicks at any of the OWS protests? This is a significant question.

Posted by: OregonMuse at October 17, 2011 10:12 AM (YWSZ7)

16 LOL, I remarked last year that it was a shame that Pavada was now more accurate than our won MFM.

Posted by: Vic at October 17, 2011 10:14 AM (M9Ie6)

17 Our Sunday school class was taught about the Tower of Babel this last Sunday. One point taught was that G*d confounded language to keep people from organizing and committing even greater evil. Many examples from the last century's history prove this point; Fascism, Communism and Socialism have in the name of the "common good" destroyed millions of people lives. It has now raised it's head in this country...

Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 17, 2011 10:15 AM (136wp)

18 It just keeps getting sadder and sadder.

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at October 17, 2011 10:16 AM (5JUlA)

19 If Pravda is calling you a commie piece of shit, You Might Be a Socialist.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 17, 2011 10:16 AM (vzFJV)

20

Check this out. Publish a "rich list" to shame them into "giving back"

http://tinyurl.com/3sh5hzn

Why not just cut to the chase and make them wear yellow stars or whatever?

Posted by: Scott J at October 17, 2011 10:16 AM (/bVuS)

21 I remember reading this back in 2009. ....It was depressing then, and it is even more depressing now.

Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at October 17, 2011 10:16 AM (KlQqQ)

22 By the way, are there any hot chicks at any of the OWS protests? This is a significant question.

There was a link to a "hottest of OWS" slideshow last week, with one looker in the bunch. And there was video of a  blonde Sacagawea a while back.

Posted by: Waterhouse at October 17, 2011 10:17 AM (eHr/6)

23

Is Mitt Romney a human being?

I mean, an actual human being?

Because I just saw a picture of him and he looks like an avatar projected by an alien civilization that is trying to mimic what an actual human being looks like.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 17, 2011 10:17 AM (AF1jB)

24 18 If Pravda is calling you a commie piece of shit, You Might Be a Socialist.

You might be a Socialist if... you think someone owes you money for a road that was built 50 years ago.

Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 17, 2011 10:18 AM (136wp)

25
I can't believe he is president.

I can't tell you how often that thought has haunted me in the past thirty-three months.


Posted by: Soothsayer at October 17, 2011 10:18 AM (sqkOB)

26

"I think we can say that the Constitution reflected an enormous blind spot in this culture that carries on until this day, and that the framers had that same blind spot. [Â…The Constitution] reflected the fundamental flaw of this country that continues to this day." -- SCOAMF in 2004.

But don't pay attention to that. Worry about who is on "Dancing With The Stars" or NFL or NASCAR or whatever..

Posted by: Scott J at October 17, 2011 10:18 AM (/bVuS)

27 Marxist President. Marxist media, colleges. Can someone explain how we are not a Marxist country? Have we had our last election? At least the last one where Obama gets less than 100% of the vote. /not sure if I'm kidding

Posted by: cherry π at October 17, 2011 10:19 AM (OhYCU)

28

Mitt still sux.

This has been a public service announcement.

Posted by: Smaug at October 17, 2011 10:19 AM (OlN4e)

29

I was shocked on election night.

More shocking was the raucous turn out by the We Are the World crowd as they kicked up their feet and did the best impression of a third world mob I've ever seen.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 17, 2011 10:21 AM (AF1jB)

30 I can't believe he is president.

I can't believe how much crap he gets away with in regard to the expansion of Executive power.

Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 17, 2011 10:22 AM (136wp)

31
I was very surprised when Clinton won in '96. I really thought the American people, given a second chance, would reject that horse's ass Clinton and his annoying wife.

But a plurality of voters pushed Clinton across the finish for a second term because the economy was too good to buy the weaksauce Bob Dole was selling.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 17, 2011 10:23 AM (sqkOB)

32 I can't believe it's not butter.

Posted by: that guy who can't believe it's not butter at October 17, 2011 10:23 AM (eHr/6)

33

But don't pay attention to that. Worry about who is on "Dancing With The Stars" or NFL or NASCAR or whatever..

Posted by: Scott J at October 17, 2011 02:18 PM (/bVuS)



IRL!!!!!!

(*too early?*)


Posted by: Zombie Dan Wheldon at October 17, 2011 10:24 AM (UK9cE)

34

I can't believe how much crap he gets away with in regard to the expansion of Executive power.

I can. It's because he's black.

America died because people were afraid of being called a name.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 17, 2011 10:24 AM (AF1jB)

35
2012 won't be like 1996.

But this strange phenomena of a steady 9.1% unemployment has me baffled.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 17, 2011 10:25 AM (sqkOB)

36

31, I've been accused on another forum of having Clinton Derangement Syndrome but his re-election in 1996 was when I realized just how dire out situation was.

When W won in 2000 I was elated thinking we'd turned the tide. In hindsight we really just delayed the march of the collectivists.

Posted by: Scott J at October 17, 2011 10:26 AM (/bVuS)

37

Nice work Ace, Thanks!

Posted by: booter at October 17, 2011 10:26 AM (deujC)

38 Pravda's problem with Obama is that he is not like Putin.

Posted by: The Q at October 17, 2011 10:26 AM (CJIam)

39

America died because people were afraid of being called a name.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 17, 2011 02:24 PM (AF1jB)



But, we're called a name anyway, so WTF do we care?

Obama said he'd give everyone of his base free shit, and he didn't, but did pay back his doners by the billion, but the dumbfucks will STILL vote for him next year.


Posted by: © Sponge at October 17, 2011 10:26 AM (UK9cE)

40 By the way, are there any hot chicks at any of the OWS protests?

I saw a "top ten sexiest occpants"-type thing somewhere. CNN? Don't remember.

#1 was the only black guy they could find, and 2-10 were five or so unattractive but not ugly gentrified-Brooklyn co-op shoppers, plus a couple stinky-looking pseudo-loser hoodie dudes with square jaws.

So your answer is probably no.

Posted by: oblig. at October 17, 2011 10:26 AM (cePv8)

41 34

I can't believe how much crap he gets away with in regard to the expansion of Executive power.

I can. It's because he's black.

America died because people were afraid of being called a name.

Yeah, this. I have family members who voted for the creep just because of his color. Course they try to obfuscate that fact with progressive touchy-feely bullshit. If Obama had been a white guy with all his negatives, he would have lost. Call me racist - I'm way past giving a shit about that lame charge.

Posted by: tubal at October 17, 2011 10:28 AM (BoE3Z)

42 Mitt Romney, unlike Barack Obama, is not a SCOAMF. Mitt is an ICOAMF (IMPENDING Clusterfuck Of A Miserable Failure)...

Posted by: richard mcenroe at October 17, 2011 10:28 AM (qvify)

43 Don't worry, folks. Mutt Romney will save us all!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 17, 2011 10:29 AM (AF1jB)

44 The skeptics of 2008 proved prescient; those who demonized them should be embarrassed.

Wonder if any of those supposed conservatives who said that McCain would have been worse then Obma are embarrased.

Posted by: Boxy Brown at October 17, 2011 10:29 AM (exCPD)

45

I'd also say that all the focus on his faith (if he has any at all) and his birth certificates were wastes of time.

I spent more time trying to convince folks that his marxism was far more important than his muslim background than I did anything else.

Posted by: Scott J at October 17, 2011 10:29 AM (/bVuS)

46
What we need is a reverse Ross Perot.

We need a 3rd party candidate.

An Occupy Party candidate.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 17, 2011 10:31 AM (sqkOB)

47 We were right..... Hurray.........


Posted by: Kasper Hauser at October 17, 2011 10:31 AM (HqpV0)

48 Tired of the SCoaMF? It's time for a president who will competently make your medical decisions for you.

Posted by: Romney 2012!!! at October 17, 2011 10:31 AM (D5hxK)

49
perhaps start a website and a few blogs pushing the idea???

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 17, 2011 10:31 AM (sqkOB)

50 So we have the president--community organizer, surrounded by Communists and Marxists from birth--all but egging the Occupiers on. Is this when he goes full Chavez? It's unbelievable that this is actually happening in America. And that so many people either don't or won't see it.

Posted by: tsj017 at October 17, 2011 10:31 AM (4YUWF)

51

The skeptics of 2008 proved prescient; those who demonized them should be embarrassed.

I'll not be holding by breath for an apology from that scrunt Noonan or Buckley's disappointing offspring.

Posted by: Scott J at October 17, 2011 10:32 AM (/bVuS)

52 There is a word for this, I think. Oh yeah, DOOOOM!

Posted by: blaster at October 17, 2011 10:32 AM (l5dj7)

53 I spent more time trying to convince folks that his marxism was far more important than his muslim background than I did anything else.

His time spent in racist Wright's church was pretty telling, for anyone who bothered to pay attention.

Posted by: Waterhouse at October 17, 2011 10:32 AM (eHr/6)

54 Obama makes Romney look good. But then, he makes Ralph Nader look good too.

Posted by: Roy at October 17, 2011 10:33 AM (VndSC)

55 An Occupy Party candidate.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 17, 2011 02:31 PM (sqkOB)



But that's Obama, so we're screwed.

He's already trying to side with them by using them in speeches about how they should be allowed to do that and all the civil disobedience that when it's directed at conservatives, is OK, but at liberals, is nazi.

Posted by: © Sponge at October 17, 2011 10:33 AM (UK9cE)

56 15 By the way, are there any hot chicks at any of the OWS protests? This is a significant question.
Posted by: OregonMuse at October 17, 2011 02:12 PM

Me! I like went down there because Tina said a cool hip Republican like me should like write stuff about how totally hip and cool it is and it's not like a bunch of you know like druggie hippies.

I was like down there on Saturday afternoon but I was like hungover from clubbing so like I was hungry and all and they like got a little freaked out because I like wanted some of their veggie lasagna.

I'm still gonna write a like really cool article in Daily Beast as soon as I like find my box of crayons

Posted by: Meghan McCain at October 17, 2011 10:34 AM (Y+DPZ)

57 What we need is a reverse Ross Perot.

So, an asshole turned inside-out? Go with Mittens..

Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 17, 2011 10:34 AM (136wp)

58

Affirmative Action. Helping America suck since 1961.

Posted by: garrett at October 17, 2011 10:35 AM (Q4+sE)

59 His time spent in racist Wright's church was pretty telling, for anyone who bothered to pay attention.

Posted by: Waterhouse at October 17, 2011 02:32 PM (eHr/6)



Hell, what he said HIMSELF on the campaign trail.

Goodgodman......he SAID he wanted to spread the wealth around.  Joe the Plumber got his tax records pulled and was vilified.  The Marxist in Chief was labeled a damn visionary.

Posted by: © Sponge at October 17, 2011 10:35 AM (UK9cE)

60 They certainly used a lot of words to say that Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at October 17, 2011 10:36 AM (QGQHq)

61 An Occupy Party candidate.

What do we want?  We don't know!

When do we want it?  Yesterday!

Posted by: Candidate for the Occupiers Party at October 17, 2011 10:36 AM (Hx5uv)

62 It was Pravda that a couple of years ago published an article on the US splitting up into 8 different 'nation-states' -- Pacific Northwest including N Cal, S Cal + New Mexico with AZ squeezed like a pimple, Upper Midwest, New England, the South, Texas, Central States, and the West.
 
It doesn't sound all that far fetched anymore either. Lots of states are getting mighty tired of being dictated to by the power mad bunch in DC. Party label rarely matters much in this regard.
 
We need a leader with a strong belief in the 10th Amendment that will reverse the DC choke hold on us all.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 17, 2011 10:37 AM (ENKCw)

63 What do we want?  We don't know!

When do we want it?  Yesterday!
Posted by: Candidate for the Occupiers Party at October 17, 2011 02:36 PM (Hx5uv)

You sound like my management.

Posted by: Nighthawk at October 17, 2011 10:38 AM (OtQXp)

64 When do we want it?  Yesterday!

#OccupyYesterdayNeutrino

Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 17, 2011 10:39 AM (136wp)

65

Goodgodman......he SAID he wanted to spread the wealth around.  Joe the Plumber got his tax records pulled and was vilified.  The Marxist in Chief was labeled a damn visionary.

Exactly!

When that moment didn't doom his candidacy I knew we were damn close to losing this country for good.

Posted by: Scott J at October 17, 2011 10:40 AM (/bVuS)

66

I'd also say that all the focus on his faith (if he has any at all) and his birth certificates were wastes of time.

I spent more time trying to convince folks that his marxism was far more important than his muslim background than I did anything else.

Posted by: Scott J at October 17, 2011 02:29 PM (/bVuS)

 

Unfortunately John Stewart wouldn't let any of this go.  And that's where many of the young people that voted for the SCOAMF get their news.  And once again it's the driving force behind OWS.

Rush, Beck, Hannity (sometimes), and numerous other conservative voices were warning us about his revolutionary/communist beliefs.  But it's just us old fuddy-duddies that listen to them. 

Fortunately for us, though, more and more of the young people are starting to see through all of the leftist schtick and are listening to conservative points of view.   Too few as yet, but the numbers are growing.

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at October 17, 2011 10:41 AM (5JUlA)

67 Speaking of predictions; from the link in the side bar:

But data released by the Treasury Department on Friday show that, so far, there hasn't been any spending cuts at all.

Didn't a bunch of us say that already when they passed that BS CR?  It wasn't a cut of $38B. It was a cut of $38B from the "proposed budget" and was actually a spending increase.

And this treasury dept data is showing that as expected. Only in Washington could a pile of lying jackals call that CR a "spending cut".

Posted by: Vic at October 17, 2011 10:44 AM (M9Ie6)

68 It's a sad day in America when Pravda's name is no longer ironic.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 17, 2011 10:45 AM (DrWcr)

69 Rush just said that Ron Paul has the right idea with his plan to make $1+ Trillion in cuts to government spending.

Posted by: Free Speech at October 17, 2011 10:45 AM (2r5dH)

70 Another prediction that came true: If I voted against Obama, racial divisions in this country would become worse than they had been since Reconstruction.

Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at October 17, 2011 10:45 AM (QKKT0)

71
I love this.

The market goes up: Bulls Buy On Hopes of Greece Debt Deal

The market goes down: Sell-off Amid Concerns For Eurozone.

Buncha idiots in this "market."

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 17, 2011 10:45 AM (sqkOB)

72 Truth is that McCain would have been a disastrous President as well. America under the diseased politics that were becoming ever more corrupt, was due for a swift kick in the nads. McCain would have been bad. We got worse.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at October 17, 2011 10:46 AM (QGQHq)

73 69, Mike V. calls "The Washington Post" Pravda on The Potomac for their non (or heavily spun) coverage of Gunwalker.

Posted by: Scott J at October 17, 2011 10:47 AM (/bVuS)

74 71 Another prediction that came true: If I voted against Obama, racial divisions in this country would become worse than they had been since Reconstruction.
  As all of the agrieved races claiming they are agrieved while demanding state inforced racism against whitey, let me say this: KISS MY BIG WHITE ASS. It sucks being you.

Posted by: Evil Stalin Sub-Tard at October 17, 2011 10:47 AM (0M3AQ)

75 70 Rush just said that Ron Paul has the right idea with his plan to make $1+ Trillion in cuts to government spending.

Posted by: Free Speech at October 17, 2011 02:45 PM (2r5dH)

I just heard that as well. It's a sad day when Ron Paul! is the only candidate taking the debt crisis seriously...

Posted by: mugiwara at October 17, 2011 10:48 AM (D5hxK)

76   #24
You might be a Socialist if... you think someone owes you money for a road that was built 50 years ago. -- Posted by: The Robot Devil

...like Rick Perry's administration in Texas that turned existing highways into toll roads before getting struck down. Follow the money. And beware the "planned" booby-trapped exits/entrances on existing highways turned into tolls to spite those who won't fork out more.

Posted by: didn't take long at October 17, 2011 10:49 AM (lpWVn)

77 ...like Rick Perry's administration in Texas that turned existing highways into toll roads before getting struck down.

Just about every State in the country is turning freeways into toll roads now.

Posted by: Vic at October 17, 2011 10:52 AM (M9Ie6)

78
Doesn't Rand Paul have a neat deficit reduction plan involving $1?




Posted by: Soothsayer at October 17, 2011 10:52 AM (sqkOB)

79 Let me give you a No Shit Sherlock prediction;

Jon Stewart will NOT hold a "Restore Sanity" rally in response to OWS

Posted by: kbdabear at October 17, 2011 10:53 AM (Y+DPZ)

80 Perry eats little children at halloween too ... ewwwwwwww!!!

Posted by: Honey Badger at October 17, 2011 10:54 AM (GvYeG)

81 Perry got himself in trouble when he sold out to the foreign corporations that were going to put up the toll booths and collect the money as a recoup on their costs, then never require them to take the booths down.

FREE MONEY!!!!!!

Posted by: © Sponge at October 17, 2011 10:54 AM (UK9cE)

82 "My plan says we’re going to put teachers back in the classrooms, construction workers back to work," President Obama said at a campaign event today. "Tax cuts for small businesses, tax cuts for hiring veterans, tax cuts if you give your workers a raise –- that’s my plan." "The Republicans plan, Obama says, boils down to this: 'Dirtier air, dirtier water, less people with health insurance.'" And WE ARE PAYING for this asshole to ride his bus around the country to trash 50% of the population? Fuck that!

Posted by: nevergiveup at October 17, 2011 10:55 AM (i6RpT)

83 68 Speaking of predictions; from the link in the side bar:

"But data released by the Treasury Department on Friday show that, so far, there hasn't been any spending cuts at all."

Didn't a bunch of us say that already when they passed that BS CR?  It wasn't a cut of $38B. It was a cut of $38B from the "proposed budget" and was actually a spending increase.

And this treasury dept data is showing that as expected. Only in Washington could a pile of lying jackals call that CR a "spending cut".


CBO says the increases were in Medicaid, Social Security, Medicare, military spending, and payments for interest costs. FEMA spending likely rose early in the year too but Congress didn't have to budget it.

Posted by: Miss'80s at October 17, 2011 10:57 AM (d6QMz)

84 83, the worst thing is that no one outside the blogs will call him on those lies.

Posted by: Scott J at October 17, 2011 10:57 AM (/bVuS)

85 83 "My plan says we’re going to put teachers back in the classrooms, construction workers back to work," President Obama said at a campaign event today. "Tax cuts for small businesses, tax cuts for hiring veterans, tax cuts if you give your workers a raise –- that’s my plan."

"The Republicans plan, Obama says, boils down to this: 'Dirtier air, dirtier water, less people with health insurance.'"



And WE ARE PAYING for this asshole to ride his bus around the country to trash 50% of the population? Fuck that!     I hope he doesn't plan on crossing the Rappahannock river on US1 to Fredricksburg, the death star bus just might crush it. Funny how all those transport dollars don't seem to make it to highways and bridges. What's up with that?

Posted by: Evil Stalin Sub-Tard at October 17, 2011 10:57 AM (0M3AQ)

86
wow, that is novel

Obama is so desperate for economic recovery, he's going to federally subsidize a hiring bubble.

Brilliant!

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 17, 2011 10:58 AM (sqkOB)

87 And WE ARE PAYING for this asshole to ride his bus around the country to trash 50% of the population? Fuck that!    


Are these the Canadian buses that he bought with American tax money because he HATES THIS COUNTRY?

Posted by: © Sponge at October 17, 2011 10:58 AM (UK9cE)

88 Looking at the news on the aggregators, comparing the headlines to what is being talked about here, we live in two totally separate worlds. They are extolling the high level of support of the OWS movement, the broadness of Romney's support and the momentum of SCOAMF's jobs plan. It's as if there was no opposition to SCOAMF whatsoever. As if the challenge from Republicans was nonexistent.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at October 17, 2011 11:00 AM (QGQHq)

89

The thing that really stopped me cold in my tracks when he was running for President was when he gave that speech in OR.  They had a popular rock band give a "free" concert beforehand.  Then he got up to the mike and said:

 

“We can’t drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times … and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK,” Obama said.

“That’s not leadership. That’s not going to happen,” he added.

 

That to me was the clarion call that made me realize how dangerous this guy really was. 

Posted by: runningrn at October 17, 2011 11:00 AM (Lbb9+)

90
brb, puttin people back to work, but first puttin the corporate jet industry out of business

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 17, 2011 11:01 AM (sqkOB)

91 Just think, folks.  The SCOAMF and the dem senate have over a year and two months yet to govern.  This isn't going to turn out well.  Not at all.

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at October 17, 2011 11:01 AM (5JUlA)

92
brb, jobs, jobs, jobs, but first regulatin the nation into depression

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 17, 2011 11:02 AM (sqkOB)

Posted by: Miss'80s at October 17, 2011 11:04 AM (d6QMz)

94 Are these the Canadian buses that he bought with American tax money because he HATES THIS COUNTRY? Posted by: © Sponge at October 17, 2011 02:58 PM (UK9cE) yup

Posted by: nevergiveup at October 17, 2011 11:06 AM (i6RpT)

95 92 Just think, folks.  The SCOAMF and the dem senate have over a year and two months yet to govern.  This isn't going to turn out well.  Not at all.   Don't worry - Preznet is merely campaigning for the next year and the Senate is laying as low as an egg sucking hound round the hen house. Dey knows de farmer is pissed and toting a shotgun. So we are facing nothing more than EOs as a total hissy fit before Sparky (down twinkles) moves on to his retirement. All EOs can be cancelled on the first day of a pubbie pres if Mittens is not elected. If Mittens takes the WH he will seek to improve on Sparkles EOs much as he did with Hillarycare.

Posted by: Evil Stalin Sub-Tard at October 17, 2011 11:07 AM (0M3AQ)

96 Obama opposes repeal of healthcare program suspended last week By Julian Pecquet - 10/17/11 01:51 PM ET President Obama is against repealing the health law's long-term care CLASS Act and might veto Republican efforts to do so, an administration official tells The Hill, despite the government's announcement Friday that the program was dead in the water. "We do not support repeal," the official said Monday. "Repealing the CLASS Act isn't necessary or productive. What we should be doing is working together to address the long-term care challenges we face in this country." Hum? When the obama admin starts taking sides against itself, you just know things are in the crapper. Pity isn't it?

Posted by: nevergiveup at October 17, 2011 11:09 AM (i6RpT)

97

I was shopping in a pawn shop over lunch hour and the jewish owner there (a very likeable guy I had just met) was detailing all the guns available, and asked me why I wanted one. I said "for self protection.....have you seen this Occupy Protest Crowd?" ...and out of the clear blue sky this guys takes off on a tangent along the lines of "I'm on the internet all day and do you know and who's funding it all? GEORGE SOROS!!1!!111!!!"

He also started talking to me about "getting active in the Tea Party". There isn't one locally because the UAW has the local area locked up with the Democratic Party (in this, an otherwise RED state) , but he had all the connections for the Tea Party from the largest city nearby.

Posted by: MrObvious at October 17, 2011 11:16 AM (2uovW)

98

78 ...like Rick Perry's administration in Texas that turned existing highways into toll roads before getting struck down.

Just about every State in the country is turning freeways into toll roads now.

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Yep. ....Probably moreso in the states that have no income taxes to work with.

We have both income & sales taxes in my state, and we've had toll roads being built for the last two decades. It's a way for people to get new roads, and let the ones who use them the most pay for them....which also includes the out of state traffic that is passing through.

I just wish that they would turn toll roads into no-speed-limit roads like the Autobahn. ....That would be cool.

Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at October 17, 2011 11:19 AM (CynMH)

99 Nine point one is gonna go way down soon to eight point something.  And the JEF and his OWS minions and his slobbering syncophants in the MFM will blare out the news that programs are working and that everything will get better if you stick with us instead of going with the meanie capitalist assholes.

Posted by: I'm in a New York state of mind at October 17, 2011 11:21 AM (4sQwu)

100

62.....We need a leader with a strong belief in the 10th Amendment that will reverse the DC choke hold on us all.

Rick Perry is the strongest 10th-er in the race.

In addition to repeatedly saying......"I would like to make Washington DC as inconsequential in our lives as possible".

Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at October 17, 2011 11:22 AM (CynMH)

101 How things change.  When I was a kid we used to joke about Pravda and Izvestia.  Even the Russians joked "there's no pravda (truth) in Izvestia and no izvestia (news) in Pravda".  But there's no getting around the fact that Pravda did a better job covering the 2008 election than the New York Times did.

Posted by: Ace's liver at October 17, 2011 11:23 AM (1+XRG)

102 Just about every State in the country is turning freeways into toll roads now.

Great excuse for being a socialist with just about every other politician in the country?

There's law prohibiting an existing section of highway already built from tax funds being renamed a toll road, the reason Perry's over-reach attempt was defeated in Texas.

Posted by: didn't take long at October 17, 2011 11:24 AM (lpWVn)

103 VDH explicates well. From the other end of the conservative spectrum, the same irony was expressed today:

Three years ago, President Obama cynically sold hope and change to get elected. Cynical, shocking, and depraved methods are needed to save Obama and help him win re-election in 2012. The hope card has been maxed out. The race card is not enough to win an election. The new guy card is also done. That leaves the fear card and the war card. "President Obama Is Selling Fear And War To Win Re-Election in 2012"

...all that which Obama "inherited" is his own legacy.

Posted by: didn't take long at October 17, 2011 11:31 AM (lpWVn)

104 There's law prohibiting an existing section of highway already built from tax funds being renamed a toll road, the reason Perry's over-reach attempt was defeated in Texas.

Not anymore. Congress changed that years ago. As I said, interstate highways are being converted to toll roads right and left.

We are one of the last holdouts here in SC but they are talking about it as we speak, using "widening of I-95" as an excuse (at the same time they are planning a useless interstate that follows the NC border through empty countryside down to Myrtle Beach.

Posted by: Vic at October 17, 2011 11:34 AM (M9Ie6)

105 ...of predictions now proven true, recall Dan Quayle's initial response to the Tea Party, that the establishment would usurp it.

GOP Empire's Plan to Crush Tea Party Rebels
Elspeth Reeve, The Atlantic, Oct 12, 2011

The first rule of the establishment is: Do not admit you are part of the establishment!

Disarm them with praise.

Moderate whoever they pick as the 2012 nominee. Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol tells that the Republican presidential nominee merely has to be conservative enough.

    "Kristol told me just after Perry entered the race, a development that essentially ended [the more radical Michele] BachmannÂ’s brief ascent. Establishment Republicans may prefer Romney to Perry, but their assumption is that either man can be counted on to steer the party back toward the broad center next fall, effectively disarming the Tea Party mutiny."

Teach them about compromise. Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels, whom many wished would run for president, told a conservative conference earlier this year, "Purity in martyrdom is for suicide bombers."

Never forget reality. Say all the nice things you want about the [Tea Party] activists, but don't forget who's really running the show. Lobbyists and former House aide John Feehery said, "The thing I get a kick out of is these Tea Party folks calling me a RINO ... No, guys, IÂ’ve been a Republican all along. You go off into your own little world and then come back and say itÂ’s your party. This ainÂ’t your party."
 

Posted by: didn't take long at October 17, 2011 11:38 AM (lpWVn)

106 Joint Statement by Treasury and OMB on Budget Results for FY 2011

Outlays for FY 2011 were $145 billion above those in FY 2010, an increase of 4.2 percent. As a percentage of GDP, total outlays were 24.1 percent, unchanged from the prior year. Outlays for annually appropriated programs as a whole changed very little from the prior year because they were operating under a series of continuing resolutions culminating in the passage of the Department of Defense and Full-Year Continuing Appropriations Act in April. Higher spending for interest on the public debt, Medicare, and Social Security accounted for $110 billion of the $145 billion increase in outlays relative to FY 2010.

Posted by: Miss'80s at October 17, 2011 11:40 AM (d6QMz)

107

But there's no getting around the fact that Pravda did a better job covering the 2008 election than the New York Times did.

Very low threshold indeed.

Posted by: dagny at October 17, 2011 11:44 AM (cWCNI)

108 Romney will be the barf stain on an otherwise black and white 2012 election.

Posted by: Live Free Or Die at October 17, 2011 11:51 AM (RMnON)

109 I remember in 2008 I was convinced that Obama would not win because he was a moonbat and America is not a moonbat country.  I was shocked on election night. The only way anyone could have failed to notice that Obama was a screeching moonbat is willful blindness.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 17, 2011 02:06 PM (Hx5uv)

What you didn't notice are:

1.) America is now as much a moonbat country as not.

2.) Willful blindness hasn't gone out of style.

Posted by: Random at October 17, 2011 11:55 AM (YiE0S)

110

If Romney/Obama win in 2012, Emperor Soros' victory will be complete.

Ron Paul! will not win the GOP primary.

Posted by: Two Predictions Sure To Be True at October 17, 2011 11:56 AM (RMnON)

111 Damn, if I've lost Pravda . . .

Posted by: Barack McFucknut, SCOAMF at October 17, 2011 11:56 AM (QaKuj)

112 We are one of the last holdouts here in SC but...

Vic re: Texas if you're interested.

Corridor Watch .org references Perry's Trans Texas Corridor and acts as a reference to materials related.   

Why the fuss about toll roads?
by Terri Hall
Founder, Texans Uniting for Reform & Freedom
,

Texas TURF homepage

HereÂ’s the short list of reasons why toll road policy has caused a grassroots revolt: higher taxes, greater bureaucracy, unsustainable debt, and corporatism.     In 2005, when I first learned that TxDOT planned to turn US 281, a freeway already built and paid for, into a tollway, it smelled like a DOUBLE TAX rip-off from the start. My fellow Texans felt the same way and a Texas-sized taxpayer revolt quickly ensued. Then when Rick Perry's agenda to sell-off Texas highways to foreign corporations spread like a canker, it was like throwing gasoline on the fire and the grassroots exploded.



Posted by: didn't take long at October 17, 2011 12:00 PM (lpWVn)

113 I covered that TTH issue in detail in the eval. I know all about it.

Posted by: Vic at October 17, 2011 12:08 PM (M9Ie6)

114 Texans celebrate repeal of Trans Texas Corridor
Posted on 10/17/2011 by Terri Hall

For the first time since the 80th legislative session in 2007, all the grassroots groups that took on Texas Governor Rick Perry to stop the Trans Texas Corridor (TTC) and place a moratorium on public private partnerships (or P3s) gathered at the AT&T Executive Education and Conference Center in Austin, Saturday, October 15, to celebrate their collective victory in finally achieving the complete repeal of the Trans Texas Corridor from state statute (KolkhorstÂ’s HB 1201 was signed into law June 17, 2011).

Rep. Kolkhorst has introduced legislation to repeal the TTC for the last three sessions. This year, it finally passed. The pie-in-the-sky, 4,000-mile, 1,200 foot wide network of toll roads, rail, utilities, telecommunications, etc. that would confiscate 580,000 acres and displace 1 million Texans on TTC-35 alone is DEAD. However, in SB 1420, 14 Texas road projects remain eligible for P3s that will cost urban commuters dearly, 75 cents per mile, and still pose sovereignty, eminent domain, and monopoly concerns.

Terri Hall, Founder of Texans Uniting for Reform and Freedom (TURF) noted, “So taking a line from the movie Princess Bride, the Trans Texas Corridor is ‘mostly dead.’ Regardless of the final status, the TTC has been officially repealed, which is cause for our celebration today. We put the proponents in serious retreat, yet we will remain vigilant.”

Hall pointed out that by its own admission, the highway department (TxDOT) plans to break-up the TTC in smaller pieces and do the project using the original road or loop name like, SH 130, and Loop 9 around DFW. However, the size and scale will be greatly diminished, which Hall thinks is a tremendous victory for property rights and Texas landowners.

Posted by: didn't take long at October 17, 2011 12:08 PM (lpWVn)

115 Texas legislation,  the reason Perry's over-reach attempt was defeated in Texas.

"Not anymore. Congress changed that years ago."

Vic #105
There's a law in Texas.

Posted by: didn't take long at October 17, 2011 12:16 PM (lpWVn)

116 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

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