1 All we need to do is flip about 3% of his support from 2008. A challenge but certainly attainable...if we had a challenger.

2 They only hate the white half.

3 I hate every iota of Obama's krackah half!

4 Don't ya love how those liberals can fake the jive talk?  "hatin' on a black man.." lordy.. gotta love it.

5 But for unclear reasons it's declined about 7% from well above 90% to 85% in March. 8.9% unemployment and $3.69 for gas should clear up some of that confusion.

6 As you know, people vote with their wallets, or whatever the expression is. To put a finer point on it, elections are about paychecks and wallets.

7

But you still can't argue the fact that he's AWESOME!

8 Speaking of racists, did anyone read the Ursula K. LeGuin link in the sidebar?  What a kook.

9 Soothsayer- Hopefully we can get some of the youth vote as well.. you know, those yutes that are now graduated from college and out pounding the pavement looking for jobs that don't exit?

10 The post at hotair also says he has 49/41 approval for ocare in florida......righttttt.

11 They'll still vote for him over the GOP candidate Whitey McCaucasian.

12 I don't hate Janeane Garofalo because she is white, but because she is a woman. Also, I find Armenians to be mostly bastards.

13 Rubio on the '12 ticket would drop that Hispanic support to well below 50%, I bet.  Game over.

14

The stock market is being driven by an investment climate which has left no good options.  Who ever thought the market would be hanging tough while the Middle East is tearing itself apart?  The new normal is the old panic time. 

I guess oil, shorting, and betting against the dollar are the new tech bubble. 

15 Ralph Nadar is probably too old to 'do it again' but there might be someone. Posted by: Downscaled Upscale at April 07, 2011 03:04 PM (IhHdM) I'm tanned, rested, and my chakra's released!

16 I don't think people loved Bill Clinton or his policies. I think they liked him okay, but loved the economy.

You're wrong. Some people really loved him...and his bent dick. He was a giver. He always shared his fries.

17 8 Speaking of racists, did anyone read the Ursula K. LeGuin link in the sidebar?  What a kook.

No, she's right.  If they wanted her books, they should make her books.

'SyFy' is a snakepit of whores.

(Any reason that's posted now when it's six years old?)

18 He'll carry the blacks by the same 88 percent or more, but they may not be as enthusiastic about driving down to the polling place.

As in L.A. at the O.J. trial, get these folks in a jury chamber or in a voting booth, and they vote with their skin.

Am I racist in saying this, or are they, with their voting? 

19 I'm telling you, Hispanics are just the next Italians. Even most of my family that disagree with the GOP stance on immigration (and really there isn't a united front) don't use it to decide who they vote for. My classmates from high school, who would have voted for Obama the first time, hate the healthcare bill so much now that I got them to vote in the midterms. Don't believe the media, they only ask hispanics in California, and thats already a lost cause. I look forward to a Jersey Shore with people that look like they're related to me.

20 I read that LeGuin article.

When did 'honky' all of a sudden become acceptable?

Oh, but Danny Glover is 'of color'

21

I know we're supposedly in a recovery but... the last few recoveries featured very solid growth to kick them off (5% per quarter, annualized, even 6% or 7%) whereas this "recovery" is only around 2-2.5%, not even keeping pace with population growth, and it looks like it can slip down to contraction at any moment.

Particularly with traders expecting oil prices to skyrocket up even further.  

22 Speaking of racists, did anyone read the Ursula K. LeGuin link in the sidebar?  What a kook.

Posted by: FUBAR at April 07, 2011 03:04 PM (McG46)

Unbelievable. The film she is talking about is 7 years old and is a piece of crap with Danny Glover in it. All that for a book series which sucks anyway. She should have been happy they tried to make something coherent out of it.

23 Isn't this why he went for an audience with al, literally half the man he used to be, sharpton yesterday?

It's up to sharpton to promise them anything to get them out to vote, early and often.

24 A third-party progressive candidate would be a God-send for us. Conversely, a friggin libertarian or former Republican in the race could kill the GOP's chances completely. The youth vote can be captured just like all the other voting blocs -- with town hall meetings. Gotta communicate with the people without the filter of the left wing media getting in the middle.

25 No, she's right.  If they wanted her books, they should make her books.

'SyFy' is a snakepit of whores.

(Any reason that's posted now when it's six years old?)

Posted by: nickless at April 07, 2011 03:08 PM (MMC8r)

Actually, it's in the contract.  But even so, I understand the "wanting accuracy" part.  It's the "race-obsessed" part that's kooky.  "He's a brown-skinned boy, not a petulant white boy!"

26 Don't ya love how those liberals can fake the jive talk?  "hatin' on a black man.." lordy.. gotta love it.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 07, 2011 03:03 PM (f9c2L)

Ah ain't in no way tarred!!

27 Ace? 230 on last thread is a crap.

28 #230

29 What is the GOP's stance on immigration?

30 Monolithic support for a black man from blacks. Racial pride. Monolithic support for a white man from whites. Racism.

31 Lemme at his nuts!  I'll cut'em off, dammit!

32

Ah ain't in no way tarred!!

Posted by: H.R. Clinton at April 07, 2011 03:11 PM (ay6+/)

My energy reserves too, are inexhaustible.

33 When gas hits 5 $ a gallon, the racists are gonna be falling from the sky I guess

34 yep, a jumping joe biden tells us, its about a 3 letter word J-O-B-S.

35 Am I racist in saying this, or are they, with their voting? 

Posted by: Hacked by Hubble

Yes.

36 Unexpected Racists: Blacks, Hispanics Less Supportive Of ObamaIncredible. Do not find yourself in MY courtroom, Mister!

37 OT : Prosser is up?

38 30 What is the GOP's stance on immigration? Posted by: Soothsayer Moribund at April 07, 2011 03:13 PM (uFokq) The fetal position.

39 Actually, it's in the contract.  But even so, I understand the "wanting accuracy" part.  It's the "race-obsessed" part that's kooky.  "He's a brown-skinned boy, not a petulant white boy!"

I'd put it in the same class as Will Smith as Jim West in 'Wild, Wild West.'  It's not what the character was, why change it arbitrarily?  Do they really think that the scifi audience won't watch a brown/black/red kid?

40 No, she's right.  If they wanted her books, they should make her books.

Yeah, but I'll she was OK with a black, revisionist Guenevere. Sorry, Ursula, but your work gets as much respect as ol' Tom Malory's.

41 Speaking of racists, did anyone read the Ursula K. LeGuin link in the sidebar? What a kook. Posted by: FUBAR at April 07, 2011 03:04 PM (McG46) Who'da thunk a (loonie, feminist) skiffy author would be an illiterate who bitches about something she signed without reading?

42 "That means to them unemployment is a political issue. An abstraction. Just a scoreboard matter, something that is important chiefly as it effects Obama's reelection chances."

That's something of a Freudian slip, isn't it? The media is chiefly interested in news as it effects Obama's reelection. But they're not interested in news that affects it negatively.

Typo, or unintentional but accurate reflection of the truth?

43 I wouldn't mind seeing a chinaman as President someday. They are excellent at math, plus he would have a chauffeur.

44 OT : Prosser is up? Posted by: Dr Spank at April 07, 2011 03:16 PM (4ZxEW) Good, but where did you get that from

45 38 OT : Prosser is up?

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 07, 2011 03:16 PM (4ZxEW)

vi ag ra is a wonder drug...

46

anyone have the car keys to the last Thread,

# 230 on last thread needs a check out.

47 Speaking as a hispanic from PA, me, my family and fellow hispanic neighbors are very conservative. Some support amnesty but they dont really care, they are more family oriented and only wish to support themselves. I believe a majority are the same. Cant say the same for blacks though/

48 OT : Prosser is up?

Posted by: Dr Spank

 

What? Where did you get that?

49 When gas hits 5 $ a gallon, the racists are gonna be falling from the sky I guess

Posted by: nevergiveup at April 07, 2011 03:14 PM (0GFWk)

Then we'll have to massively increase ethanol to get bread and cereal up even more.   Lettuce and carrots for everyone!  

50 Gateway Pundit, but he doesn't have a link yet.

51 @30, I'm from Arizona, so SB 1070 is all that gets discussed. When Rubio runs (I hope it's not in 2012) he will break hispanic identity politics. The MFM won't know what to do, because thats not the way it happened in The West Wing.

52 When did 'honky' all of a sudden become acceptable?

Don't recall exactly.

53 I'd put it in the same class as Will Smith as Jim West in 'Wild, Wild West.'  It's not what the character was, why change it arbitrarily?  Do they really think that the scifi audience won't watch a brown/black/red kid?

Posted by: nickless at April 07, 2011 03:16 PM (MMC8r)

I doubt that's what they think.  Though they did make the black man Toto in Tin Man.  Why change it?  Maybe they already had someone signed.  Maybe the redskins wanted too much money.  Maybe they figured it wasn't a big deal, this being a color-blind society and all.  If she was that adamant about it, put it in the contract.

54

Blacks have not seen the rainbows and skittles promised them.  During the Bush years, black owned businesses were at their highest rate - that has now changed.  Yes, I believe he will maintain a black majority vote rated on skin color but not like 2008.

Obama is going down onto the proverbial trash heap of history.  It's one thing to screw half of the country - but Toonces has managed to piss off a majority.  Good work asshole.

55 Hey What about me?

Don't I warrant a mention.

56 wait, wait, who says Prosser is up??!!

57 Gateway has a link now, not sure how definitive this is though.

58 Trump, Ryan, somebody else, Rove...hannity today.

poor hannity everyone turns him off to watch beck at 5

59 I'm looking at a graph that charts the prices of crude and gasoline. Interesting. --gas has more than doubled since Obama was Immaculated. --when crude was at its highest in July, 2008, at $146/bbl, the price of gas was about $4/gal.

60

For one thing he is yellow. That may have something to do with it. Maybe he is a CGI charachter.

I have a very expensive Sony TV and it cannot resolve his color. He appears a weird pasty green yellow on the screen.

What gives ?   

61 Funny thing about that recovery thing.  

Recent WSJ article.  Of course people will say "e-commerce is what's killing bricks and mortar stores", but that is not all of it.  One of the beauties of e-commerce is buying things from other places out of state where they don't charge you sales tax (although there are some states cracking down on that now too).  The truth of the matter is, we are still in a recession, no matter how much the pointy headed "smart set" tell us that we are not.

Mall vacancies hit their highest level in at least 11 years in the first quarter, new figures from real-estate research company Reis Inc. showed. In the top 80 U.S. markets, the average vacancy rate was 9.1%, up from 8.7%.

The outlook is especially bad for strip malls and other neighborhood shopping centers. Their vacancy rate is expected to top 11.1% later this year, up from 10.9%, Reis predicts. That would be the highest level since 1990.

62 It's Amity Shlaes.

63 My nuts are cooling outside on the deck.

64

Blacks have not seen the rainbows and skittles promised them.  During the Bush years, black owned businesses were at their highest rate - that has now changed.  Yes, I believe he will maintain a black majority vote rated on skin color but not like 2008.

 

I'm still waiting for President Obama to fill my tank!

65 When Rubio runs (I hope it's not in 2012) he will break hispanic identity politics. The MFM won't know what to do, because thats not the way it happened in The West Wing.

Posted by: FAB at April 07, 2011 03:20 PM (v85We)

What's the Hispanic version of Uncle Tom?

66 55. I agree, Cheri - I think he's done a remarkable job of unifying Americans . . . against him. No one wants to say it yet, for fear of that ten percent of idiots who are loud-mouthed, in-your-face, rationality-free Lefties. I'm super-quiet about everything now (I'm on the down-low anyway). Young people in the city sound one HELL of a lot different now than they did in 08 - they've "aged" quite a bit in a few years. I'm tentatively hopeful for the USA.

67 Prosser's going to have to come out ahead 2 or 3 more times.

68 Just as long as we don't elect an Italian, race isn't really an issue. Nobody wants a President that's always waving his hands around and eating spaghetti all the time.

69

wait, wait, who says Prosser is up??!!

It was me...it happens in the morning sometimes.  Not as much as when we were younger, though.

70 52 When Rubio runs (I hope it's not in 2012) he will break hispanic identity politics. The MFM won't know what to do, because thats not the way it happened in The West Wing.

I hope you're right, but I would expect the MFM to try to paint him as a traitor to his ethnicity.  And they're very effective at it, the bastards.

71 I'd put it in the same class as Will Smith as Jim West in 'Wild, Wild West.'

Not being familiar with Earthsea, I couldn't tell you. Will Smith was a particularly bad choice for two reasons: (1) he was black in a period when that was a big deal; and (2) he didn't evoke Conrad's West.

For many sci-fi books, a character's skin tone isn't part of the story. At that point, you can choose whichever actor you want, so long as they can play the character.

For example, there's nothing in Dune that would preclude the Atreides from being cast with black actors.

Like I said, I don't know that there's anything about the Earthsea character that would require him to be played by a black actor. My immediate thought is that it's equivalent to Bogart looking nothing like Sam Spade in the Maltese Falcon -- it doesn't matter -- but I'm just guessing.

72 Hate to break it to people, but we've been in a depression since 2001. The Titanic wasn't flying just becuase the stern rose before it sunk

73 57 wait, wait, who says Prosser is up??!!

Posted by: ace at April 07, 2011 03:22 PM (nj1bB)

did you check out 230 on last thread?

74 74. I think everyone knows this. We know. The powers-that-be are trying to hide it. I'm not afraid of the word. We're in a Depression.

75 8 Speaking of racists, did anyone read the Ursula K. LeGuin link in the sidebar?  What a kook.

Posted by: FUBAR at April 07, 2011 03:04 PM (McG46)

I read the first two Earthsea books in like the 6th/7th grade.  Her "protagonist" was barely in the second book.  That was much more focused on some girl in an island that he eventually shows up and helps out.  Guess her dumb feminist ass just couldn't stand writing an entire series about a guy.  As for the first book, I thought it was pretty standard fantasy, and the kid was a cocky little bastard that got knocked back from his arrogance, and had to essentially undergo a Luke Skywalker-esque growth to be a hero.

76 OT but I liked Will Smith a lot in Wild Wild West. underappreciated movie!

77

I'm still waiting for President Obama to fill my tank!

Posted by: Peggy Joseph at April 07, 2011 03:24 PM (ihSHD)

 

Only if you fill my "tank" first.  "Peggy" is a guy's name, right? You Americans and your strange names....

78 Have all the precincts been counted in Wisconsin? This wuld be a fantastic victoty for good in the state.

79

We have not had a recession like this in a long time. Not since the actual Depression. And I'm still reminded of Amity Sh[l]aes, quoted by Megan McCardle, noting that during the first couple of years of the Depression, people were still pretty optimistic. Sure, it was bad, but they expected the economy would rebound in 12 or 18 or even 24 months, same as it always did.

It wasn't until a little later than that that the unceasing, no-light-at-the-end-of-the-tunnel grind of it got to them and put them in a properly depressed mindset.

And then the country elected the jackass who made the depression worse to four consecutive terms as president.

I'm afraid America has only gotten dumber since then.

80

BlackOrchid @ 68 - I stay on 'the down low' as well as I can't take arguing with some of my liberal relatives, co--workers, etc. anymore.  Stupid gets so tedious.

The funny thing is, they are now also very quiet.  I don't hear the cheerleading and bragging that I used to.  Economy + President's Personal Backround + War in Libya + 1000 other fuckups have seemed to dummy up some of the stupid.

81 78 OT but I liked Will Smith a lot in Wild Wild West.

underappreciated movie!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 07, 2011 03:27 PM (SB0V2)

Sorry, but that movie stunk! What a mess. Kenneth Branagh as a Southerner.Yuck.

82 @78
Yeah, I did, too. 

WWW, even as the tv show, was like a Bugs Bunny cartoon.  Complete fantasy.  So in that case I think Will's race is a non-issue.  I thought he had a fun persona and the right body type and style to pull off the role. 

The thing that ruins WWW for me is Kenneth Branaugh's villain performance.  He seems uncomfortable and it makes me uncomfortable to watch him. 

83 I must see which way my people are headed, for I am their leader.

84

Like I said, I don't know that there's anything about the Earthsea character that would require him to be played by a black actor. My immediate thought is that it's equivalent to Bogart looking nothing like Sam Spade in the Maltese Falcon -- it doesn't matter -- but I'm just guessing.

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at April 07, 2011 03:26 PM (bjRNS)

There wasn't.  I didn't even realize he was supposed to be black.  I just remember some of the races in the world had like yellow colored eyes, and that was about it.

85 I'm afraid America has only gotten dumber since then.

Posted by: Ed Anger at April 07, 2011 03:30 PM (7+pP9)

That not be right. I be smart. I see people on my screen and I vote for them!

Brain, brain - what is brain?

86 Related to the LeGuin Earthsea SyFy (I think it was SciFi at the time), Earthsea was made into a movie by Goro Miyazaki (son of Hayao) a few years ago called Tales from Earthsea. It is a testament as to why nepotism is bad.

87
#67,

I believe it is "Coconut".

Brown on the outside, white on the inside.

88

I have a counter-point, regarding Libya. I've seen real liberals complain bitterly about it. They tend to focus on the laughably non-issue of how much the missiles costs, but it's kinda obvious that they're just trying to put a mask over the betrayal they feel.

So I suggest that to the independents the Libya thing - as icing on the cake - has made clear just how much of a hypocritical partisan scumbag King Barack really is, as well as just how much he holds the public in contempt. Any shiny, happy veneer of HopeyChangy that was left has been rubbed off. I'm surprised his numbers are as good as they are.

Another point that seems like it's been missed is that the novelty of "the Frist Black President" has been lost. It's already been done - no need to climb on board that train any more.

Oh, and I still claim calling him that is mildly racist. He's as white as he is black, and that ought to count just as much (which neither should really count at all!). He's the first Bi-Racial President. I'll grant you the first black First Lady though. And kudos to her - for not being involved in any scandals yet! Anyway, so much for that guy who said something about judging people based on "the content of their character".

Also on the bright side is the fact that the Democrats seem to be operating on the assumption that what worked last time will also work this time. Things have changed, but they haven't. It the Republicans had a decent candidate to throw out there (like the stars that are only emerging in NJ, FL, and WI) this would be a cake-walk.

89 When Winnebago county canvassed they found an undercount for both candidates, but more so for Prosser. 

I wouldn't celebrate yet.  It's common for counties to find small differences from election night when they canvass over the next several days.  The lead could change again when it turns out that in another county a clerk typed 172 into the spreadsheet Tuesday night when the total on the voting machine itself was only 127. 

90 Anyway, so much for that guy who said something about judging people based on "the content of their character".

Why bother?  When we do, we get called racist anyway...

91 What's the Hispanic version of Uncle Tom?

A coconut.  It's what Donny Deutsch called him on Headline News.

92

Oooh, Donny Deutsch, the Ultimate Arbiter of class and race categories.

 

Donny Deutsch always seemed to me like Donald Trump's dumb and dull younger brother.

93 This ain't a garden-variety cyclical post-WWII recession, it's a balance sheet recession and we haven't had one of those since the Great Depression.  Obama didn't cause it but, like FDR, his "ideas" ain't fixin' it and are likely making it worse.  Bernanke is determined to keep asset prices afloat at any cost but there's a big difference between asset prices staying high and a recovery occurring.  Stable asset prices are a marker of a recovery but ain't a recovery.  To economists, unemployment levels are a "trailing indicator" but to folks without a job, they're the ONLY indicator.  So the all-hat-no-cattle Obama administration is fixing symptoms but not problems and in the end that's gonna matter more to folks more than his "transformative nature" or the fact that he's half black.  It don't matter if they vote against him or not, all they gotta do is be pissed off enough to stay home.   

94 My city's first billion-dollar project-- converting the old shipyards to condominiums- is shut down & being dragged thru the courts-- they kept taking peoples' money and never built anything but the sales office.

Another tower of condos down the street is chained, abandoned, and a roost for turkey vultures.

Everywhere I go, I see more for sale signs, more for rent signs, and more "ask about our new, lower commissions..." Commercial real estate has more & more vacancies, more business failures.

It's a Depression, folks. Plain & simple- and all the eggheads on TV can't explain the reality away.

95
Obviously, they're racists!

Of course, when you can't pay for your house, put gas in your car, food on your table because you haven't had a whiff of a decent enough job and are busting ass trying to get as much part work as you can manage, yeah, The Won isn't looking so good.

96 Obama now has a verifiable record. It's a provably bad one. He'll lose.

The next election will be a referendum and it won't matter who runs against him. All that will matter is the state of the economy and how much effort the MFM will exert to protect him. The latter is a given and is already baked into the cake. So, it's the economy... again. Does anyone see Team Obama, with the help of Pelosi and Reid, genuinely leading the charge to improve it? How about Executive policy changes that Obama outsources to his czars and cabinet? Do you expect more of the same or a paradigm shift (and think of Obama's answer to car mileage when you consider that)?

The number racists joining the Tea Party will be epic.

97 Me thinks the media will soon be singing a different tune now that some fat TV news salaries are getting the axe.  And I don't mean GB.

98 High school grad and under unemployment is worse than college grads...so these folks have been waiting for 2 years for some magic and now they know they have been suckered.

99 Jet magazine just had a piece that dared question a little bit the Libyan military action, and whether Obama was doing the right thing -- I was surprised.

100 I must see which way my people are headed, for I am their leader. اعلانات مبوبة اعلانات مجانية اجهزة كشف الذهب اعلانات مبوبة مجانية