August 26, 2011
— Ace I'd sure like an accounting of how they're computing these figures because they seem to perpetually show a bias in favor of higher GDP figures.
Q1 was already revised down from a so-so 3.1% down to a meager 1.3%. Wait a second, no it wasn't. It was already at a meager 1.3% and then revised down to a verge-of-recession 0.4%.
(By the way, these figures are annualized gross domestic product figures for the quarter. They represent, in theory, all productive activity in the US. They are annualized, which means when we offer a figure like "1.3%" we mean if the economy grew at this rate for the entire year rather than the three month, one-season snapshot we're actually looking at, it would be 1.3%. In other words, for the real growth (or contraction) that occurred in the quarter, divide by four. "Annualizing" the figure by multiplying by four is done for convenience, so we can compare a one-quarter rate to, say, the average yearly growth rate in the last 30 years (guessing, around 3.1%) and compare to that.)
The last quarter, Q2, was estimated to be 1.3%. It's now revised down to 1.0%, and that's even a bit lower than the downward revision "expected" by economic forecasters, down to 1.1%.
So we are actually officially on a recession watch.
The United States is on a recession watch after a massive sell-off in the stock market knocked down consumer and business sentiment. The plunge in share prices followed Standard & PoorÂ’s decision to strip the nation of its top notch AAA credit rating and a spreading sovereign debt crisis in Europe.While sentiment has deteriorated, data such as industrial production, retail sales and employment suggest the economy could avoid an outright contraction.
Ed notes there's one glimmer of good news--
There was one warning note: the core personal consumption expenditure index rose at 2.2%, faster than anything since 2009Q4, according to Reuters. That may be enough to keep the Fed on the sidelines, which we will know later today when Ben Bernanke gives a speech today on the economy and the FedÂ’s direction.
Yeah I don't really know what that means. I know the speed at which wealth is created is slowing to a crawl and the trend seems not your friend. Reports from the last snapshot generally show the economy deterioriating still further. There are almost no positive indicators whatsoever. So if the last half year was at an average of 0.7% on an annualized basis... well, it doesn't take too much further deterioration to bring that under 0.0% and kick off the actual second acknowledged (technical definition) recession.
Funny thing about recessions: Once they begin, economists tell you you've actually been in one for a half a year or full year. That's because once a technical recession (two back-to-back quarters of negative growth) begins, they date the recession as beginning from the last peak of economic activity.
That's why when the Bush recession hit in 2008 (if I'm remembering it right), economists then said we'd been in recession since sometime in 2007 (which was the last peak, after which later GDP figures were all lower).
In this case, if we fall into recession, it will be dated as having begun in the first quarter of 2010. (Note: I think. I don't know the details of how they date the onset of a recession.) Well before those awful Republicans even won the midterms, nevermind actually sat as a Congress and began to do things.
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Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch at August 26, 2011 08:31 AM (ignDe)
Posted by: CBO, the numbers guys whose numbers seem never to mean anything at August 26, 2011 08:35 AM (OK/vv)
If this is true, this would explain what we're seeing. It also means that none of the revisions are truly "unexpected" -- if you bias the original calculations towards the mean, then you're usually going to adjust away from it later.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 26, 2011 08:36 AM (bjRNS)
We need higher taxes and more government graft and regulation. ooo and more union corruption. That will save us.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at August 26, 2011 08:36 AM (0fzsA)
Posted by: EC at August 26, 2011 08:36 AM (GQ8sn)
Well, Obama certainly did bring change, didn't he.
Idea for a 2012 slogan.
If you want a job vote for Perry, if you want a handout Obama done run out of them.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2011 08:37 AM (7BU4a)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 26, 2011 08:38 AM (TMB3S)
Posted by: barry potus at August 26, 2011 08:38 AM (FcR7P)
( today is Long-Reaching Historical Analogies Day )
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at August 26, 2011 08:39 AM (UqKQV)
Posted by: Barack "FORE MORE YEARS!" Obama at August 26, 2011 08:40 AM (7BU4a)
Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch at August 26, 2011 08:40 AM (ignDe)
PLUS Obama will be revealing yet another one of his lame-assed jobs plan outline.
Obama's gonna look like a lame-assed fuck in September coming off his fancy million-dollar vacation. That fool is done.
Posted by: soothsayer at August 26, 2011 08:41 AM (G/zuv)
And it's not their fault?
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 26, 2011 08:42 AM (Hx5uv)
MAN OF INACTION!!!
Comes with Callaway golf bag accessory.
Also Available His Side Kick.
Telle Prompter
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 26, 2011 08:42 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: zmdavid at August 26, 2011 08:42 AM (VKiYT)
nice clothes back in the 80s, btw. And hair; especially the hair.
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at August 26, 2011 08:42 AM (UqKQV)
Posted by: 3,876,783 Hobbits at August 26, 2011 08:42 AM (jeLTI)
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 26, 2011 08:43 AM (Hx5uv)
Socialism gets stuck in Mental Midget MaxineÂ’s throat, gears freeze up, BS issues forth.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 26, 2011 12:41 PM (jx2j9)
That's what happens when you gerrymander districts so people can have a representative of the same skin color.
Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 26, 2011 08:44 AM (136wp)
Remember when we just had Hurricane Katrina and we were stuck in a quagmire in Iraq?
Yeah, guess what? GDP was up 3.8% for 3Q 2005.
How about that.
Posted by: soothsayer at August 26, 2011 08:44 AM (G/zuv)
Wait just a minute here...... We're boned!
Posted by: Guy Fawkes - doing the moronic research at August 26, 2011 08:45 AM (4nfy2)
And we in Texas are choosing to sit this second dip of the recession out. For the moment, at least.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 26, 2011 08:45 AM (8y9MW)
the core personal consumption expenditure index rose at 2.2%, faster than anything since 2009Q4, according to Reuters.
At some point people have to go out and buy those things they've been putting off buying - things that have just worn out. That can't always decrease. Heck, it might be people stocking up on food to stay ahead of food inflation.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at August 26, 2011 08:46 AM (GKQDR)
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 26, 2011 08:46 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: soothsayer at August 26, 2011 12:44 PM (G/zuv)
Yes, but that was Bush's fault, remember?
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 26, 2011 08:46 AM (jx2j9)
Posted by: Dang at August 26, 2011 08:47 AM (TXKVh)
nice clothes back in the 80s, btw. And hair; especially the hair.
Don't forget the cocaine...
Posted by: CUS at August 26, 2011 08:47 AM (84pE9)
Wait just a minute here...... We're boned!
Welcome to the party!
Posted by: John McClane at August 26, 2011 08:47 AM (136wp)
Posted by: Frankie Goes to Hollywood at August 26, 2011 08:47 AM (jeLTI)
NASA animation of the economy as it comes under the influence of administration policies.
It's racist to compare Obama's policies to a black hole.
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 26, 2011 08:48 AM (Hx5uv)
nice clothes back in the 80s, btw. And hair; especially the hair.
Don't forget the cocaine...
And slit skirts...
Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 26, 2011 08:48 AM (136wp)
Unexpected
Historic
Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.
Posted by: © Sponge at August 26, 2011 08:48 AM (UK9cE)
In the 2007-09 recession, they revised GDP estimates like 2 years later. Prior to the revision, GDP peaked in the 2nd quarter of 2008 (June). After the revision, the peak moved to 4th quarter 2007 (Dec), miraculously coinciding with the NBER's pre-revision call for the beginning of the recession. A six-month difference in when the recession started.
It's been a pet peeve of mine. If 2Q of 08, US recession started after most of Europe's did. If 4Q of 07, US recession was among the earliest in Europe. I think problems started in Europe and infected us, not vice versa, as is the accepted wisdom.
Posted by: Randall Hoven at August 26, 2011 08:48 AM (gEHjd)
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 26, 2011 12:46 PM (Hx5uv)
Do you know if he had a teleprompter? If he didn't I'm pretty certain at least half the speech was, "Ah... eh... um..." The rest would be no more intelligible.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 26, 2011 08:49 AM (jx2j9)
Posted by: Mr Pink (not in a good mood today) at August 26, 2011 08:49 AM (WFi4R)
the core personal consumption expenditure index rose at 2.2%, faster than anything since 2009Q4, according to Reuters.
At some point people have to go out and buy those things they've been putting off buying - things that have just worn out. That can't always decrease. Heck, it might be people stocking up on food to stay ahead of food inflation.
Don't forget back-to-school clothes. And supplies.
Posted by: CUS at August 26, 2011 08:49 AM (84pE9)
Posted by: Comrade Krugman at August 26, 2011 08:49 AM (+JhHG)
Posted by: Y-not at August 26, 2011 12:36 PM (5H6zj)
Thhhgggggtggtgtgtggtgtgtgtgggkk.
Posted by: Perry at August 26, 2011 08:50 AM (UK9cE)
It's racist to compare Obama's policies to a black hole.
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 26, 2011 12:48 PM (Hx5uv)
My self condemnation is on autopilot. I'm covered.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 26, 2011 08:50 AM (jx2j9)
Posted by: The God-King Barack Obama at August 26, 2011 08:50 AM (9hSKh)
Trips to the grocery store are depressing as hell.
Posted by: Y-not at August 26, 2011 08:51 AM (5H6zj)
Do you know if he had a
teleprompter? If he didn't I'm pretty certain at least half the speech
was, "Ah... eh... um..." The rest would be no more intelligible.
Can we just hook up a Speak-and-Spell to the teleprompter so we don't have to look at the fucking idiot?
Posted by: Dang at August 26, 2011 08:51 AM (TXKVh)
Posted by: turgid at August 26, 2011 08:52 AM (jeLTI)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 26, 2011 08:53 AM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: Methos at August 26, 2011 08:53 AM (sOXQX)
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 26, 2011 12:46 PM (Hx5uv)
He said there's a hurricane coming. It looks to be big. He urges everyone to get prepared and take all precautions.
Seriously, that's what he said. I'm not shitting you.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at August 26, 2011 08:53 AM (GKQDR)
A minister in Libya's National Transitional Council said on Friday rebel forces were surrounding an area of Tripoli where Muammar Gaddafi and his entourage were hiding and were monitoring their presence before attempting to capture them.
Historic, eh?
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 26, 2011 08:54 AM (9hSKh)
Eventually that's gotta reverse--sooner or later you just got to have than hernia fixed--but the really bad thing is that some people are putting things off too long
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at August 26, 2011 08:54 AM (UqKQV)
The other apropos song I haven't seen referenced, Bananarama's "Cruel Summer"
Posted by: SFGoth at August 26, 2011 08:55 AM (dZ756)
Posted by: Randall Hoven at August 26, 2011 08:55 AM (gEHjd)
Posted by: Y-not
True. I used to just hate grocery shopping, now I actively fear it.
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at August 26, 2011 08:55 AM (h1p5V)
(CUS channeling his inner Barak)
But my lovely Michelle may certainly spend $10mil of your hard-earned tax monies on her special vacations. She has earned it.
Posted by: CUS at August 26, 2011 08:55 AM (84pE9)
Now factor in Inflation, the depreciation of the dollar, population GAINs (1 million a year legal immigrants), and Deficit spending (which will HAVE to be repaid)....
And you will see that the Economy has not grown in REAL terms, for years now.
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 26, 2011 08:55 AM (NtXW4)
Posted by: Scampy at August 26, 2011 08:55 AM (jeLTI)
Any idea what "mean" they're using? Is it the +7% CBO assumes government can grow by every year without consequence?
Posted by: Methos at August 26, 2011 08:55 AM (sOXQX)
No shit? Really? Could this be remotely true? If only half the headline is true, there is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure out there who has to go. Has! To! Go!
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 26, 2011 08:55 AM (jx2j9)
Trips to the grocery store are depressing as hell.
Posted by: Y-not at August 26, 2011 12:51 PM (5H6zj)
Something the Republicans should start pointing out. The official inflation figures may be low...but the price of every day goods keeps going up...
Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2011 08:55 AM (7BU4a)
Posted by: Dang at August 26, 2011 12:51 PM (TXKVh)
Download yourself a copy of Dr. Sbaitso and have fun.
Posted by: © Sponge at August 26, 2011 08:56 AM (UK9cE)
Secret documents in Tripoli seen by the Guardian reveal the desperate attempts made by the Libyan government in its final months to influence US and world opinion. It approached key international opinion formers from the US president Barack Obama downwards.
The regime tried to persuade the Democratic congressman Dennis Kucinich – a well-known rebel who voted against Nato military action in Libya, and opposed the Iraq war – to visit Tripoli as part of a hastily arranged "peace mission". The Libyan government offered to pay all Kucinich's costs related to the trip, including "travel expenses and accommodation".
On 22 June a letter sent to Libya's prime minister, Al-Baghdadi Ali al-Mahmoudi, by a US-based lobbyist for the regime, Sufyan Omeish, noted that Kucinich was "concerned that his personal safety in Tripoli could not be guaranteed". He preferred to conduct meetings with regime officials outside Libya. The plan was for Kucinich to meet "senior Libyan officials, including Gaddafi". The proposed trip never took place. Kucinich visited Syria instead.
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 26, 2011 08:56 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: Mr Pink (not in a good mood today) at August 26, 2011 08:56 AM (WFi4R)
re: Libya
I hope the "rebels" do something stupid like decapitate Kaddafi in the street in front of the tv cameras.
I'd laugh and laugh and laugh...(at the Obama Doctrine).
Posted by: soothsayer at August 26, 2011 08:56 AM (G/zuv)
Posted by: Methos at August 26, 2011 12:53 PM (sOXQX)
Most of the gains are in window and plywood companies
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at August 26, 2011 08:56 AM (UqKQV)
Aren't they adjusted vs the core inflation, meaning no food or energy component is included?
Posted by: Guy Fawkes - doing the moronic research at August 26, 2011 08:57 AM (4nfy2)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 26, 2011 08:57 AM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: Randall Hoven at August 26, 2011 12:55 PM (gEHjd)
Problem is that they now use the Gimmicked 'NEW IMPROOVED' inflatioin index... the one that does not count fuel, or food, or many many of the things we buy....
By the OLD inflation index... we would be in negative growth numbers.
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 26, 2011 08:58 AM (NtXW4)
Don't forget Elijah Cummings (D-olt), who insists that O is a victim of racism, because no other president has undergone criticism, or something.
Posted by: pep at August 26, 2011 08:59 AM (GMG6W)
Posted by: kansas at August 26, 2011 08:59 AM (mka2b)
Posted by: MichelleO at August 26, 2011 08:59 AM (jeLTI)
Isn't that basically Canada's health 'care' system?
"You have a hernia. The next available slot is Oct 12th, 2013."
Posted by: CUS at August 26, 2011 09:00 AM (84pE9)
The talking heads tell me that its because teh Bernank said nothing other than they are going to talk about it for a whole 2 days in Sept instead of 1. Go figure.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes - doing the moronic research at August 26, 2011 09:00 AM (4nfy2)
Anything that's bad, it has to be inherited from Bush.
Anything good, well, I'll take credit for that.
By the way, I personally shot Bin Laden in the face (he was already dead for years, but they let me do it at Area 51).
Posted by: Barry the Stuttering Clusterfuck of a Miserable Failure at August 26, 2011 09:02 AM (7cXE7)
It seems as though the waiting rooms (and parking lots) at our area veterinarian clinics are very empty. I bet people are putting off those sorts of expenses, too.
Posted by: Y-not at August 26, 2011 09:02 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: MichelleO at August 26, 2011 12:59 PM (jeLTI)
No dear, your ass looks quite svelte next to that 250 mile diameter hurricane.
Posted by: Preznit Easybake what doesn't want his eye dotted at August 26, 2011 09:03 AM (9CM5J)
Posted by: mpfs, TPT at August 26, 2011 09:03 AM (iYbLN)
nice clothes back in the 80s, btw. And hair; especially the hair.
Don't forget the cocaine...
And slit skirts...
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Don't forget our youth.......we had our youth.............(now thirty years older and deeper in debt)
Posted by: HappyGoLucky at August 26, 2011 09:04 AM (be5IN)
No. Your ass makes your ass look big.
The hurricane makes it look wet.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 26, 2011 09:04 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 26, 2011 09:04 AM (Hx5uv)
Ok. Let me try this againÂ… Could this be remotely true? Mexican commandos operating in the U.S. under DOJ auspices because they are so effective in their own country and our own law enforcement in this country sucks way more than Mexican law enforcement and there is absolutely no danger of corruption from the squeaky clean Mexican authorities and just as with Fast and Furious, only insignificant innocents will be killed. No significant innocents. Scouts honor.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 26, 2011 09:04 AM (jx2j9)
That's why the hard money people don't think slight deflation is as bad as most economists think it is. Personally I'm not sold on the idea of a stable system in which everybody needs to spend more this quarter than last or it's an economic calamity. But that's where we're at.
Posted by: Ace's liver at August 26, 2011 09:05 AM (1+XRG)
No, your ass is fucking huge all on its own. Don't get me started on those "toned" thighs.
Posted by: mpfs, TPT at August 26, 2011 09:06 AM (iYbLN)
There's not actually any constitutional issue with the SCOAMF allowing this (the missions still take place in Mexico, after all), but it does set off my stink-o-meter.
Of course, I really think we should tell Presidente Calderon to exert control of his side of the border, or we'll do it for him.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 26, 2011 09:07 AM (8y9MW)
"I've been out all morning-can someone tell me why in the world the stock indices are all up? -----Posted by: Methos at August 26, 2011 12:53 PM (sOXQX)"
Yep, Ben Bernanke revealed that he has nothing new to offer and therefore was going to do nothing, and the equity markets said, "That's the best news we've had all week!"
Posted by: John Maynard Keynez at August 26, 2011 09:07 AM (8E9QA)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 26, 2011 09:07 AM (136wp)
In the same vein, no liberal should ever ever ever ever ever ask the following....
"You think the Obama's Been a Bad President? Prove it".
Jonathan Alter's cringeworthy column in Bloomberg. Seriously, this is so embarrassing for him.
Posted by: lu at August 26, 2011 09:08 AM (pLTLS)
WikiLeaks: Lieberman wanted Egypt to give land to Gaza.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 26, 2011 09:08 AM (9hSKh)
I’m thinking that Bloomberg might have probably let some religious leaders come to the 911 commemoration thing. You know – to be on the safe side; cover the bases, so to speak; hedge the bets, as it were.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 26, 2011 09:08 AM (jx2j9)
Fore! more years. Fore! more years.
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 26, 2011 09:08 AM (bvXGR)
So we are actually officially on a recession watch.
The Pirate Crew agrees. We have been watching the recession now for what seems like years. With no end in sight. Not even a rainbow.
Posted by: Pirate Pelf Lucre at August 26, 2011 09:09 AM (wN82N)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 26, 2011 09:10 AM (niZvt)
That's one of the few articles I've ever seen where the comments are actually better than the article. Unprecedented, Mr. Alter.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 26, 2011 09:10 AM (8y9MW)
For us posers, when is National "Talk Like A Pirate Day"?
Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 26, 2011 09:10 AM (136wp)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 26, 2011 09:11 AM (LyF0H)
Posted by: Fritz at August 26, 2011 09:12 AM (/ZZCn)
Posted by: Y-not at August 26, 2011 01:02 PM (5H6zj)
And dentists. That's gonna hurt, soon enough. Hurt
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at August 26, 2011 09:12 AM (UqKQV)
Rough chart of recent revisions and their direction.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 26, 2011 09:13 AM (DEcmU)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 26, 2011 09:13 AM (IpiZb)
Agreed. But it was like watching a skeeery movie - one eye open - the other wincing. I almost felt bad for the guy. Almost.
Posted by: lu at August 26, 2011 09:14 AM (pLTLS)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 26, 2011 09:14 AM (LyF0H)
Posted by: Y-not at August 26, 2011 09:14 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: 80s dweeb at August 26, 2011 09:14 AM (p1NIw)
I think that there are constitutional limits on this. The whole bill of rights for example. How would Mexican Law Enforcement be bound by our constitution? How are American Constitutional protections for American citizens guaranteed by allowing Mexican military or police to operate in this country? Obvious answer is they can't be.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 26, 2011 09:16 AM (jx2j9)
Posted by: Neville Chamberlain, Miserable Failure at August 26, 2011 09:16 AM (HBqDo)
No shit? Really? Could this be remotely true? If only half the headline is true, there is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure out there who has to go. Has! To! Go!
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 26, 2011 12:55 PM (jx2j9)
Send in the Clowns Clones Drones.
Posted by: Pirate Pelf Lucre at August 26, 2011 09:16 AM (wN82N)
SCOAMF is finally smelling election/triangulation.
Too little, too late.
Thanks a lot for finally doing what you should have done long ago, shithead.
Posted by: logprof at August 26, 2011 09:16 AM (lh7Yc)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at August 26, 2011 09:17 AM (PbXsW)
Posted by: 80s dweeb at August 26, 2011 09:17 AM (p1NIw)
You mean Margot Kidder crawled out from under her rock for nothing?
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 26, 2011 09:18 AM (Hx5uv)
Thanks to ever linked to this Sultan Knish guy earlier.
"Earthquake Comes to Washington" about the Tea Party was great stuff. Why doesn't anyone in conservative media link to this guy more? He says more insightful things clearer and more directly then about anyone but Mark Steyn.
Posted by: Shiggz at August 26, 2011 09:18 AM (v8Pb8)
Fredricka is on CNN now so we can expect great reporting on how the coming Hurricane will affect black Americans.
The truly sad thing is, there are groups of people out there hoping that this Hurricane will be very devastating just so President Obama may finally be able to show incredible leadership through a disaster. Almost as sad is that they are projecting leadership skills on a man who doesn't really have any.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at August 26, 2011 09:18 AM (GKQDR)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 26, 2011 09:19 AM (LyF0H)
Thanks! Yeah, I saw that one.
I'm still trying to get rid of the mental picture of Perry as Swashbuckler that chemjeff put into my head yesterday. It's... distracting!
Besides, I'd prefer Perry as Bullfighter. Tighter pants.
Posted by: Y-not at August 26, 2011 09:19 AM (5H6zj)
Miss me yet?
Posted by: Boy George at August 26, 2011 01:17 PM (4q5tP)
Not yet, no.
Posted by: Male prostitute, beaten and shackled at August 26, 2011 09:20 AM (1+XRG)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 26, 2011 09:20 AM (LyF0H)
If the Mexican troops started actually violating our sovereignty (harassing our civilians, for example), that would be a different matter. Simply providing them assistance and a base of operations is not, in itself, a problem.
Certainly if the Mexicans started causing problems, they would need to be expelled.
Actually, it's less of a sovereignty/constitutional problem than, say, Iraq has. We're not only over there, but conducting operations in country, including operations against people who are technically Iraqi citizens.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 26, 2011 09:21 AM (8y9MW)
Um, he's like my Dad's age so I can't really go there
. I will say I have v. specific visions of him going after Barky in the debates. Ultimately he tells him to just start packing his shit already. Posted by: lu at August 26, 2011 09:21 AM (pLTLS)
Posted by: Y-not at August 26, 2011 01:14 PM (5H6zj)
Speaking of golf. I like what Azinger said about Commander Clusterfuck.
(HotAir link)
Posted by: © Sponge at August 26, 2011 09:21 AM (UK9cE)
My pants gonna make a retro comeback! Can't touch dis!
Posted by: MC Hammer at August 26, 2011 09:21 AM (4q5tP)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 26, 2011 09:22 AM (LyF0H)
Posted by: The Cast of Glee at August 26, 2011 01:20 PM (OWjjx)
Yeah, like baggy pants, underwear sticking out and flat billed oversized baseball caps twisted sideways is 'teh cool'......
Posted by: © Sponge at August 26, 2011 09:23 AM (UK9cE)
Does anyone else see the stupid teeny-boppers walking around in jump-pants and zipper jackets want to go up to them and say either:
a) Wow! I never thought I'd see that old thing again! I remember when I wore it!
or
b) Hey, 1984 called. They want their clothes back.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 26, 2011 09:23 AM (8y9MW)
This "definition of inflation" shit is a red herring, IMHO. In any case, it has no bearing on this discussion.
("Core" inflation does not include food and energy. But Core Inflation is not used for anything. If it is ever reported, it is reported as "Core Inflation" rather than just "Inflation"; it is simply a separate measure with a separate name. The Fed might use it, among the gazillion other indicators it looks at, to help predict future trends.)
Posted by: Randall Hoven at August 26, 2011 09:23 AM (gEHjd)
That's going to leave a mark.
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 26, 2011 09:23 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: MC Hammer at August 26, 2011 01:21 PM (4q5tP)
Please, Hammer! Don't hurt 'em!
Posted by: 80s dweeb at August 26, 2011 09:23 AM (p1NIw)
Boy George @ 141: Miss me yet?
I really want to hurt you.
Posted by: 80s dweeb at August 26, 2011 01:18 PM (p1NIw)
Relax, don't do it.
Posted by: Frankie at August 26, 2011 09:24 AM (WDySP)
I wouldn't want to bet on that working out.
Posted by: Methos at August 26, 2011 09:25 AM (sOXQX)
Posted by: MC Hammer at August 26, 2011 01:21 PM (4q5tP)
Please, Hammer! Don't hurt 'em!
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LOL, youtube the video of the 1991 playoff game between Washington and Atlanta. Hammer's clowning with Deion before the game, and Atlanta gets humped by the Skins.
Posted by: SFGoth at August 26, 2011 09:25 AM (dZ756)
Posted by: shibumi at August 26, 2011 09:25 AM (z63Tr)
Posted by: Haircut 100 at August 26, 2011 09:25 AM (LyF0H)
Socialism gets stuck in Mental Midget MaxineÂ’s throat, gears freeze up, BS issues forth.
Posted by: Hussein the PlumberThis fucking scrunt needs to lean some fucking manners. I am so fucking tired of fucking ghetto culture preaching "respect" and the evils of getting "dissed" and then they send this piece of shit to congress. FUCK YOU!
Posted by: Dang at August 26, 2011 09:26 AM (TXKVh)
lol. Well, I'm sure your shrink approves! ;-)
I dig older guys. Most men tend to get more attractive as they age, up to a point, especially if they act their age (unlike freaks like Hefner). Hell, I only gave up on my crush on Jacques Pepin a couple of years ago and the guy is pushing 80.
Posted by: Y-not at August 26, 2011 09:26 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: MichelleO at August 26, 2011 12:59 PM (jeLTI)
Pirates know this: the difference between a white gal and a black gal is that when a white gal asks if her ass looks big, you say "No", if a black gal asks if her ass looks big, you say "Hell, YES!"
This many also apply to certain select Latinos.
This statement is in full official compliance with all politically correct diversity policies, rules, regulations, and suggestions, and fully conforms to the AOSHQ terms of service, we think.
Posted by: Pirate Pelf Lucre at August 26, 2011 09:26 AM (wN82N)
C'mon, you know that you cranked one off so many times while watching my backup singers that Kleenex share prices rose on strong demand.
Posted by: Robert Palmer at August 26, 2011 09:26 AM (4q5tP)
Those were clothes? I thought it was body-paint.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 26, 2011 09:28 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Laurie Anderson at August 26, 2011 09:29 AM (LyF0H)
But here we have ace doom. They "unexpectedly" admitted they lied again. What they will not say is that there has never been any recovery to begin with.
Posted by: Vic at August 26, 2011 09:30 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Robert Palmer at August 26, 2011 01:26 PM (4q5tP)
Was it true that one of those backup singers was a guy "dressed up like a sheila"? Or was that just urban legend?
Posted by: yinzer at August 26, 2011 09:30 AM (/Mla1)
Posted by: Peggy Noonan at August 26, 2011 09:30 AM (9CM5J)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at August 26, 2011 09:30 AM (4nfy2)
Did you see the pic of Sean Connery I posted yesterday? It was his birthday he was 81.
Posted by: Vic at August 26, 2011 09:31 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Y-not at August 26, 2011 09:31 AM (5H6zj)
My pants gonna make a retro comeback! Can't touch dis!
Posted by: MC Hammer at August 26, 2011 01:21 PM (4q5tP)
--That video was from 1990. FAIL
Posted by: logprof at August 26, 2011 09:32 AM (lh7Yc)
Skinny jeans?
Posted by: dagny at August 26, 2011 01:30 PM (PSypz)
Along with low-top canvas shoes and messenger bags, natch. Knit cap optional.
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at August 26, 2011 09:32 AM (9CM5J)
For us posers, when is National "Talk Like A Pirate Day"?
Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 26, 2011 01:10 PM (136wp)
A holiday that brings cheer to the hearts of all the Pirate Crew and a day of mirth and laughter with the landlubbers who try to Talk Lilke A Pirate. The day comes not soon enough for us, matey.
September 19 is Talk Like a Pirate day!
Posted by: Pirate Pelf Lucre at August 26, 2011 09:32 AM (wN82N)
"There's another thing the press seems to not get. A lot of African-Americans that I've talked to, most of them say that they 'feel this President has been treated unfairly.' They believe he has done every single thing in his power to try to create jobs, to try to make sure this economy moves forward. He's gone against just fierce opposition. I think, I mean if you look at the evidence, that's true. He's accomplished a lot in the short time he's been President. But the fact is, it has not been easy and will not continue to be easy," Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD) said on "Morning Joe" this morning.
Video link on Drudge.
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 26, 2011 09:32 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: dagny at August 26, 2011 01:30 PM (PSypz)
Well, I had a stress test this morning. It came out OK because they didn't really say anything. Heart is in good shape.
I'll have some more updates next week. Thanks
Posted by: Vic at August 26, 2011 09:33 AM (M9Ie6)
nice clothes back in the 80s, btw. And hair; especially the hair.
Don't forget the facial hair - ZZ Top
Or the wigga dance moves - Vanilla Ice
Or the lip curl - Billy Idol
Heyyyyyyyy! Ohhhhhhhhh! - Andrew Dice Clay
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 26, 2011 09:33 AM (4q5tP)
Posted by: Y-not at August 26, 2011 01:34 PM (5H6zj)
He looks damn good for 81.
Posted by: Vic at August 26, 2011 09:35 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Armando at August 26, 2011 09:35 AM (nd0uY)
Posted by: Jean at August 26, 2011 09:36 AM (OfinX)
Posted by: nerdygirl at August 26, 2011 09:36 AM (eMPxE)
Strictly speaking, add a hundred, divide the sum by a hundred, take the fourth root, subtract 1 from the result, and multiply by a hundred. So 2.6% annualised growth this quarter doesn't mean 0.65% growth in the last three months. It means 0.643757% growth. Try to keep up.
Posted by: David Gillies at August 26, 2011 09:36 AM (OLivq)
Posted by: Y-not at August 26, 2011 09:36 AM (5H6zj)
1% vs. 9.3%.
Fuck me that is depressing. Does anyone ever think we'll see a 9.3% growth again?
Posted by: Jimmuy at August 26, 2011 09:36 AM (JRjWw)
--That video was from 1990. FAIL
Posted by: logprof at August 26, 2011 01:32 PM (lh7Yc)
Artistic license.
Posted by: MC Hammer at August 26, 2011 09:37 AM (4q5tP)
Yes. Probably in Q2 of 2015. Under President Perry.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 26, 2011 09:38 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Unexpectedly at August 26, 2011 09:39 AM (14jKX)
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and The New York Times at August 26, 2011 09:40 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: dagny at August 26, 2011 09:40 AM (PSypz)
You take the square root of all the error function inputs squared and summed.
Posted by: Vic at August 26, 2011 09:40 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 26, 2011 09:41 AM (ZDUD4)
"Unexpectedly"...........mmm yes, there's that word again.
Don't these so called 'experts' realize that their overuse of the word 'unexpectedly' destroys their claim of being referred to as experts?
Personally I think that we are already in recessionary territory. But they will do their best to hide it from us as long as possible...until they have an anything-but-Obama's-fault excuse to blame it on.
'Oh hello, Irene. Thank you so much for coming. You are here at just the right time.' ~ Team Obama
Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at August 26, 2011 09:42 AM (Qyf8X)
Posted by: nerdygirl at August 26, 2011 09:42 AM (eMPxE)
Posted by: dagny at August 26, 2011 01:40 PM (PSypz)
Try sending them to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Washington, DC
Posted by: yinzer at August 26, 2011 09:42 AM (/Mla1)
(Note: I think. I don't know the details of how they date the onset of a recession.)
It depends on who is in office. for Bush, they came up with a new way of gauging the onset of a recession (tied to jobs data more than GDP non-growth) in order to claim that Bush's recession started so much earlier.
I think they left those calculations after the Indonesian slimed into office. Otherwise, they would probably have said that the last recession never ended (which it really didn't ... eye of the storm kind of stuff ...).
Posted by: Henry Harold Humphries, you can call me 'H' at August 26, 2011 09:44 AM (qMfi2)
Try sending them to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Washington, DC
They are a men's 10 1/2 waaaaaaaaaaay too small for Michelle. Maybe the younger girl?
Posted by: dagny at August 26, 2011 09:44 AM (PSypz)
I'd add a fudge factor if I were them.
Posted by: toby928™ at August 26, 2011 09:45 AM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Schwalbe : The © at August 26, 2011 09:45 AM (UU0OF)
Posted by: PRESNOT OBIE at August 26, 2011 09:46 AM (hn7Yz)
Posted by: toby928™ at August 26, 2011 01:45 PM (GTbGH)
Economists' calculations are nothing BUT fudge factors. Most people can make better guesses than the economists OR than the econometric models.
Posted by: Henry Harold Humphries, you can call me 'H' at August 26, 2011 09:46 AM (qMfi2)
Nothing compares, No-thing com-pares, to you.
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 26, 2011 01:41 PM (ZDUD4)
I CAN'T BELIEVE you just went all Sinade O'Conner on us.....
Posted by: © Sponge at August 26, 2011 09:47 AM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Y-not at August 26, 2011 12:51 PM (5H6zj)
When $12 worth of groceries became $20 it was bad, yesterday that $20 became $36 at checkout. Why thank you {resident stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure Obama and your little clone fluffer Governor Deval Patrick too.
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at August 26, 2011 09:48 AM (ijjAe)
Remember Hope and Change? Here it is, all mapped out. In living color! (led there by The Blaze)
You can almost feel it!
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 26, 2011 09:48 AM (jx2j9)
FIFY... don't mention it.
Posted by: sherlock at August 26, 2011 09:49 AM (H9eC4)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 26, 2011 09:49 AM (ZDUD4)
Yeah well, what I mean is that it appears that they straight line out from whatever single point we are at right now, rather than including the current direction of change.
Posted by: toby928™ at August 26, 2011 09:49 AM (GTbGH)
"I think the economy does need more stimulus. Everybody says we should've (had)...a bigger stimulus package. Yeah, we should've. I was pushing (for) it."
-Joe Shitforbrains Biden
Today, August 26, 2011
Posted by: soothsayer at August 26, 2011 09:49 AM (G/zuv)
Far abler men then he have tried the same ideology, even spilling rivers of peasant blood and they couldn't make that ideology work either.
Leftist ideology is incompatible with safe streets, free and happy living, and the very foundations of representative government and civilization.
Even an inexperienced, incompetent, narcissist like Obama were he a Reagan/JFK etc.. type conservative ideologically, would have been a more successful president then Clinton.
Posted by: Shiggz at August 26, 2011 09:50 AM (v8Pb8)
meanwhile, in MA...
My shithead governor, lil Obama, wants to put away the remaining $300M of Stimulus money in the rainy-day fund.
So which is it? Spend or save, Democrats?
Posted by: soothsayer at August 26, 2011 09:50 AM (G/zuv)
Posted by: Texan Economist at August 26, 2011 09:51 AM (vhtNy)
You know what the answer is?
Both. Neither. Anything.
The Democrats don't know what to do. So they'll just say anything and keep stroking the peasants.
Don't Stop Thinking About Tomorrow.
Posted by: soothsayer at August 26, 2011 09:52 AM (G/zuv)
April 23, 2010
"All in all we're going to be creating somewhere between 100[,000] and 200,000 jobs next month, I predict," Biden said, according to a pool report, adding that he "got in trouble" for a job growth prediction last month. "Even some in the White House said, 'Hey, don't get ahead of yourself.' Well, I'm here to tell you, some time in the next couple of months, we're going to be creating between 250,000 jobs a month and 500,000 jobs a month."
Posted by: big fuckin deal at August 26, 2011 09:52 AM (GTbGH)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 26, 2011 09:53 AM (niZvt)
225They are a men's 10 1/2 waaaaaaaaaaay too small for Michelle. Maybe the younger girl?
Posted by: dagny at August 26, 2011 01:44 PM
That was not nice, leave the kids out of it. But yes they are probably too small. Besides, you know what they say about women with big feet?
----
You know what they say. If you want to see what she'll look like in 20 years, check out the mom. And no, I'm not talking about Obamas kids of course. Just the rest of them.
Posted by: Jimmah at August 26, 2011 09:55 AM (TfRqk)
1. Spend a shit-ton of money on welfare projects
2. Raise taxes on everyone except their voters
3. Magic happens
4. Good times
The only problem with that theory of economics is the SCFOAMF can't do magic.
Posted by: Vic at August 26, 2011 09:55 AM (M9Ie6)
We have a Deval Patrick squirreling away his Stimulus dollars.
We have Joe Biden calling for more govt Stimulus.
And we have Obama ready to propose tax hikes.
These muthafuckas are going in THREE DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.
They are clueless. Like chickens with their heads cut off --running around, clucking.
Posted by: soothsayer at August 26, 2011 09:56 AM (G/zuv)
Posted by: Dick Morris at August 26, 2011 09:56 AM (niZvt)
232
meanwhile, in MA...
My shithead governor, lil Obama, wants to put away the remaining $300M of Stimulus money in the rainy-day fund.
So which is it? Spend or save, Democrats?
----
Coincidentally, the rainy day is saturday.
Posted by: Jimmah at August 26, 2011 09:56 AM (TfRqk)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 26, 2011 09:57 AM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: A Yak in Tibet at August 26, 2011 09:57 AM (48wze)
Posted by: Mandy P., Teahadi from Hobbitton at August 26, 2011 09:57 AM (qFpRI)
I have been waiting for some white guy to sue based on"disparity of impact". The federal government now has a much larger percentage of minorities working in it than the average population.
In the old days of civil rights that was grounds for a successful discrimination lawsuit.
Posted by: Vic at August 26, 2011 09:58 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Prezidint Do Little at August 26, 2011 09:58 AM (4q5tP)
Actually, if you take the length of the foot in inches, multiply it by .3847, you will get the circumference of the vaginal opening.
So that's sort of like, Cherry pi?
Thank you! Thank you! I'll be here all week.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 26, 2011 09:58 AM (sbV1u)
Dems offering handy advice to democrat candidates in faking support for Israel. Help for feigning sincerity deemed not necessary as this is a common talent among most dems.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 26, 2011 10:00 AM (jx2j9)
FIFY... don't mention it. Posted by: sherlock at August 26, 2011 01:49 PM (H9eC4)
The Democrats' party history is a horror show. Long before they were leftist. Basically everything they say makes America evil was Democrat policy at the time from slavery to Jim Crow to internment of the Japanese to abusing the Indians. If there were never Democrats in power, they would have nothing to complain about.
Posted by: zmdavid at August 26, 2011 10:00 AM (VKiYT)
Posted by: Mandy P., Teahadi from Hobbitton at August 26, 2011 01:57 PM (qFpRI)
Dare I hope that a certain catpee drenched something has to GTFO? I dare! I dare!
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 26, 2011 10:01 AM (4q5tP)
Posted by: Mandy P., Teahadi from Hobbitton at August 26, 2011 10:02 AM (qFpRI)
Dare I hope that a certain catpee drenched something has to GTFO? I dare! I dare!
Has that hash showed up here yet today?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 26, 2011 10:02 AM (sbV1u)
246239, Actually, if you take the length of the foot in inches, multiply it by .3847, you will get the circumference of the vaginal opening.
----
And on the man, if you measure the furthest fingertip to the wrist, you're doing it all wrong.
Posted by: Jimmah at August 26, 2011 10:03 AM (TfRqk)
Nowadays, itÂ’s not often that advice from our cousins, the Brits, is actually helpful. In this case however, IÂ’d have to say that the blind squirrel found a nut.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 26, 2011 10:04 AM (jx2j9)
Posted by: Tami at August 26, 2011 10:05 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 26, 2011 10:05 AM (niZvt)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at August 26, 2011 10:05 AM (9CM5J)
Dagny - I'll take them off your hands!
Posted by: Barry Soetero at August 26, 2011 10:06 AM (sXUiz)
Posted by: DJIA Death Watch at August 26, 2011 10:08 AM (GTbGH)
The family had been scheduled to return to Washington together tomorrow afternoon.
WHY can't his handlers have him do something that looks better to the TAXPAYERS of this country and have the family fly home TOGETHER instead of wasting yet MORE money lugging those to assholes on separate planes!!???
He truly has NO clue what he's doing.
Posted by: © Sponge at August 26, 2011 10:08 AM (UK9cE)
OK, so I am an enginerd. Apologies to whomever already posted this mathematical logic.
Posted by: Isophorone at August 26, 2011 10:08 AM (X/T/+)
104 50 Now all you 80s dweebs will jack the thread......
nice clothes back in the 80s, btw. And hair; especially the hair.
Don't forget the cocaine...
And slit skirts...
At least we had REAGAN.
Posted by: Chellita at August 26, 2011 10:09 AM (NE+5I)
Posted by: Bea Hanginballs at August 26, 2011 10:09 AM (48wze)
Posted by: toby928™ at August 26, 2011 10:09 AM (GTbGH)
Obama is expected to arrive back at the White House on Friday evening. His family will remain on the Vineyard through Saturday morning.
His 'n' hers jets once again.
Posted by: arhooley at August 26, 2011 10:09 AM (3n2lK)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 26, 2011 10:10 AM (jx2j9)
Posted by: Stimey Thompson at August 26, 2011 10:10 AM (48wze)
WHY can't his handlers have him do something that looks better to the TAXPAYERS of this country and have the family fly home TOGETHER instead of wasting yet MORE money lugging those to assholes on separate planes!!???
What do you want to bet their sex life has gone to shit?
Posted by: arhooley at August 26, 2011 10:11 AM (3n2lK)
Posted by: zmdavid
Sort of like a mobius strip of political parties.
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at August 26, 2011 10:11 AM (h1p5V)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 26, 2011 10:12 AM (ZDUD4)
After checking Real Clear Politics, Rick Perry decided to speed things up and run on the dem ticket and cut him off in the primaries.
---
Somehow after two whiskey and cokes, that makes sense.
Posted by: Jimmah at August 26, 2011 10:12 AM (TfRqk)
Posted by: Mandy P., Teahadi from Hobbitton at August 26, 2011 10:13 AM (qFpRI)
Posted by: Wally Hampton at August 26, 2011 10:13 AM (48wze)
His 'n' hers jets once again.
Posted by: arhooley at August 26, 2011 02:09 PM (3n2lK)
Unfuckingbelievable!!
Posted by: Tami at August 26, 2011 10:13 AM (X6akg)
Dateline 11/5/2012
President Obamas Electoral vote total was today unexpectedly revised down to 162
Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 26, 2011 10:13 AM (M3mVf)
Posted by: Mandy P., Teahadi from Hobbitton at August 26, 2011 10:13 AM (qFpRI)
Posted by: arhooley at August 26, 2011 02:11 PM (3n2lK)
I think someone mentioned yesterday that had he not become president, they were considering divorce, so I'm guessing there IS no sex life between these two. Now, since he's behind closed doors all the time and she's habitually vacationing, there may be some side action going on, but that's pure speculation by me.
Posted by: © Sponge at August 26, 2011 10:13 AM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Tami at August 26, 2011 02:05 PM (X6akg)
Speaking of Manhattan, "it" was linking like a chimp on crack in the hurricane thread.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 26, 2011 10:14 AM (UOM48)
The president made the decision to cut short his family vacation on Martha’s Vineyard shortly after addressing the nation about the impending danger of Hurricane Irene, which he said has the potential to be “historic.”
I'll bet good money that Michelle and the kids stay in Martha's Vineyard for the last day of their vacation, costing the American taxpayer hundreds of thousands more in private jet, helicopter and motorcade costs. All this, so that Barry can storm chase in hopes that it will be "historic," "unprecedented," and otherwise extraordinary, and he can show "compassion," "leadership" and "I am not Bush-ism."
Posted by: Z as in Jersey at August 26, 2011 10:15 AM (sXUiz)
Posted by: JimK at August 26, 2011 10:15 AM (NgsCA)
His 'n' hers jets once again.
Posted by: arhooley at August 26, 2011 02:09 PM (3n2lK)
Pffft. What's a few hundred thousand to fly my gorgeous ass back to DC when I damned well feel like it.
Posted by: Moochelle Antoinette at August 26, 2011 10:16 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: Tami at August 26, 2011 02:05 PM (X6akg)
I denounce myself here, but how much looting is going to occur if that is actually done?
Posted by: © Sponge at August 26, 2011 10:17 AM (UK9cE)
Dateline 11/5/2012
President Obamas Electoral vote total was today unexpectedly revised down to 162
You realize of course that both California and Massachusetts have now passed laws awarding their electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote.
It would be some sweet, sweet poetic justice to watch MA and CA have to vote for the Republican in the Electoral College because Obama was swamped in every other state except those 2 in 2012.
A man's gotta dream I say.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 26, 2011 10:17 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: The Yak at August 26, 2011 10:18 AM (48wze)
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama, D-Indonesia at August 26, 2011 10:20 AM (f8XyF)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 26, 2011 10:22 AM (bSqWe)
"Don't Start Thinking About Tomorrow"
"Don't stop thinking about Yesterday"
"Don't worry we kept all your money... in a totally safe lockbox... which we will totally show you..... but the guy who has the key.... is totally out sick so well have to get back to you..."
Ok the third part doesn't fit with the song quite right.. but you get the point.
Posted by: Shiggz at August 26, 2011 10:22 AM (v8Pb8)
Q2 GDP Estimates Revised Downward Unexpectedly due to ATM machines and the sack of weapons-grade FAIL that occupies 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, but mostly the sack of weapons-grade FAIL that occupies 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
Posted by: Mike at August 26, 2011 10:22 AM (VwHIh)
Check your textbook. It should be right next to 'profits and earnings ratio'.
Posted by: Dr. Barak Hussein Phd., Professor of Economics at August 26, 2011 10:23 AM (84pE9)
Posted by: The Yak in Tibet at August 26, 2011 10:23 AM (48wze)
269..Do you have a problem with this RACISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSST ? Posted by: Stimey Thompson at August 26, 2011 02:10 PM
Y' know, come to think of it, maybe they should build his 'n' hers Whitehouses, too. Michelle needs closet space.
Posted by: arhooley at August 26, 2011 10:24 AM (3n2lK)
It would be some sweet, sweet poetic justice to watch MA and CA have to vote for the Republican in the Electoral College because Obama was swamped in every other state except those 2 in 2012.
Holy carp that would be delicious. Of course the next day the laws would be repealed in an unprecedented show of fast, efficient legislative action.
Posted by: arhooley at August 26, 2011 10:28 AM (3n2lK)
A man's gotta dream I say.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 26, 2011 02:17 PM (sbV1u)
It would be sweeter if it were the reverse of 2000 with Obama narrowly losing the popular vote but would win the electoral vote with CA and MA but them being forced to go for the Republican. The problem with that is I'm pretty sure electors could ignore these laws with impunity and vote how they please.
Posted by: zmdavid at August 26, 2011 10:40 AM (VKiYT)
Posted by: Schwalbe : The © at August 26, 2011 10:54 AM (UU0OF)
The 80s were ghey compared to now? No.
Skinny jeans?
Posted by: dagny at August 26, 2011 01:30 PM (PSypz)
Yeah, skinny jeans, messenger bags, and those tight t-shirts. Besides, anybody who thinks the '80s were ghey didn't go through the '70s.
Posted by: Male prostitute, beaten and shackled at August 26, 2011 11:01 AM (1+XRG)
Wouldn't matter. The courts would throw it out as unconstitutional, something they wouldn't do if the Democrats came out on top.
Posted by: Male prostitute, beaten and shackled at August 26, 2011 11:04 AM (1+XRG)
Posted by: Ace's liver at August 26, 2011 11:08 AM (1+XRG)
2.8% was what the GDP was for 2010?
Just of note, in Q1 2010 the GDP was revised 3 times, started at 3.7&, then 3.2%, 3.0%, then finished a 2.7%.
Posted by: KOW at August 26, 2011 11:42 AM (TbM8N)
Posted by: richard mcenroe at August 26, 2011 11:43 AM (GmKsI)
Q1 2011 was estimated at
1.8% advanced estimate
1.8% second estimate
1.9% third estimate
0.4% now.
it was not 3.1%, tha was Q4 2010.
Posted by: KOW at August 26, 2011 12:01 PM (TbM8N)
Posted by: steevy at August 26, 2011 12:08 PM (pV6cO)
This admin is so crooked.
Revised in July 2011
Q4 2008 was -6.8% they changed it to a –8.9%
Q1 2009 was -4.9%, they changed it to a -6.7%
They basically changed 2008 from a 0.0% to a -0.3%
Also, they still have not explained how the Q1 2011 went from 1.9% to 0.4%. Was it consumer spending?
Posted by: KOW at August 26, 2011 12:17 PM (TbM8N)
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