February 24, 2011

Union Fleebaggers Get Violent; Media Doesn't Notice
— Ace

The media is forever calling upon Republicans to denounce strident language. Their theory is, as far as I can tell, that moral norms are established by group consent, so if a group gives its implicit blessing to political violence, a very important restraint on human action is removed and political violence becomes more likely.

If political violence is what they seek to avoid, then of course they should patrol their own group for strident language -- Did you know Governor Walker was Hitler? Odd, I sure heard how dangerous this message was when applied to Obama -- to insure that the group for whom they help establish moral norms doesn't get the idea that violence is okay, either.

And if one of their own assaults a five-foot-two girl, they should certainly say something about that.

“This just can’t be tolerated anymore. It’s one thing to be called a violent teabagger. It’s another to be called a violent teabagger while you’re being assaulted. They’ve been comparing themselves to the Egyptians ousting Mubarak. Looks like they’re not too far off, given that they share the tendency to assault women with cameras.”

Jim Treacher dares the left to defend this miscreant. Enter George Soros token hire Oliver Willis (scan down) to call the incident "manufactured."

One thing I notice as a political writer is the usefulness of imprecise and vague words. What does "manufactured" mean? Checking the idiot token's oevure, I notice him using that word a lot. Can we be more specific?

"Manufactured" is a slippery term indeed because it embraces a very fat range of meanings. It can be a literal term -- something can be literally manufactured, created in whole. It can be more figurative -- we say something is "manufactured" if it's incited by craftiness. In baseball, they speak of "manufacturing" runs, by which they mean relying on less-spectacular methods of run production such as the combination of a walk, a steal, and a sacrifice fly.

Or "manufactured" may refer to the outrage over an incident, which is postulated to be false, and not the actual incident itself.

So a fat, dull, talentless hack like Oliver Willis can offer a general denial of an incident without really specifying in what particular way he denies it. He claims it's "manufactured." What does this mean? We don't know, and in all likelihood, neither does he. Being obese of mind as well as body, he is lazy and hasn't bothered to figure it out.

But he knows that his job relies upon him vomiting a steady stream of propaganda (as well as half-digested Filet O'Fishes), and so he obliges with a meaningless statement that pleases the leftist lunatics he preaches too and dissatisfies anyone with a working intellect.

The media slips an awful lot past the public with the word "context." They frequently claim they don't carry stories like this because the "context" doesn't support making it worthy of mention.

What does "context" mean? Well, it actually means additional information that sheds a different light on the known information. So what specific information are they referring to when they vaguely dismiss a story as not news worthy when one considers the "context"? What context do you specifically mean?

They don't say because they wish to be vague -- which is the difference between a true writer or reporter and a political operative. Vagueness and verbal fog are hateful to a writer; but they are the stock in trade of a political operative.

What "context" does the media have in mind when it tanks this story? I can think of several possibilities, not a one of which would the media dare admit to be the additional information they're considering "in context" when spiking the story. So that is why they won't specify these, and insist on the Silly Putty word "context."

1. We don't have to patrol the left for violence because the left is entirely non-violent and law-abiding. This assumption is of course false on its face and absurd even in postulation.

2. We don't have to patrol the left for violence because we have such moral certitude about the goodness of our ends that we are justified in using otherwise-immoral means, such as violence, to attain them.

As 1 is false on its face (check the videotape), I can only assume they mean 2, and can only assume then that "in context" they consider some lives to be less worthy of protection than others. That, given the choice between protecting people on the right from the infectious idea that violence is permissible by soundly rejecting it or accepting the benefits of some intimidation, thuggery, violence and even political murder, they choose the latter.

"Context." "Manufactured." Those who don't wish to say the truth -- and those who don't even wish to know the truth, to discover the horrors they actually believe in -- content themselves with such evasions.

Thinking men and women reject them, push past the gauzy haze of such vague words and demand to know (including demanding to know of themselves) what these words actually mean and what assumptions, precisely, we believe in.

If an assumption is too odious to be stated aloud -- there is a very good chance that assumption is false and hateful, isn't there?

What honest intellect needs to resort to lies and obfuscation about his actual philosophy?

More Hate? I think this one is a bit ticky-tack but the anti-American, violent leftists and the media (but I repeat myself) highlight such ticky-tack infractions when it's in their interest so here's a Fleabagger calling a good American "a bad Jew."

This isn't about the anti-semitism so much as it's about the (of course unstated) assumptions packed within: That ethnic authenticity requires fidelity to a certain political party.

Yeah, that's a big one for them. And yet they rarely state it explicitly, because they realize how odious it sounds when stated clearly. So instead they just imply it. "Uncle Tom," etc.

If your beliefs are good and true, why must you hide them in the basement like whores and thieves?

"Edited:" There's another political-operative evasion which was used by the anti-American, violent leftist and the media (but I repeat myself) to suggest that Breitbart's ACORN sting wasn't real.

See, it was "edited."

What does that mean? In what way was it edited? News is edited; "edited" alone doesn't make it false.

Please specify the precise ways in which you claim it was edited which makes it false.

They've never been able to claim the conversations didn't occur precisely as presented. When they got specific (after months of vaguely saying "edited") it turns out their one example of falseness was interstititial/set-up footage of James O'Keefe dressed as an outrageous pimp stereotype in walking down the street, when in fact he wasn't dressed that way at ACORN.

But that was lampoon, and furthermore, the guy says directly to ACORN that he is a pimp and has a stable of whores, many underage. So in what way is this "edited" in such a way to undermine the basic story?

Answer: In no way. But they just keep on repeating the vague word "edited" and rely on their leftist propaganda consumers to supply their own meaning to to the word.

And:

And they also assume that the right side of the spectrum is comprised of people who, by definition (since they do not accept the politics of the left) are intellectually challenged and insensitive at best; or more likely evil, knuckle dragging, bigoted, hate-mongers. -- RM

Very true, and I sure wish they would state this assumption forthrightly so we can have an open and straight debate about it, rather than it always being gauzily implied as a secret assumption.

But they can't confess that assumption, since their false claim of objectivity would of course be scorched to dust by such an admission. You can't claim I'm objective and neutral as between lovely, intelligent human beings and Evil Monsters.

We are Evil Monsters in their eyes, and this is the open-secret assumption that is the special "context" that actually justifies, in their minds, the double-standard. But because they refuse to state it openly, we have proxy fights over the elephant in the room.

"Sometimes You Have To Get Out Into The Streets And Get A Little Bloody, When Necessary." And he said this flanked by a Democratic Congressman.

Hate speech? Dangerous? Well, dangerous to the right people. So long as leftists are protected from political violence, have a party.

Posted by: Ace at 09:04 AM | Comments (268)
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1 Finally!

Posted by: Miss Marple at February 24, 2011 09:11 AM (Fo83G)

2 Filet-O-Fish is still around?

Posted by: Soothsayer at February 24, 2011 09:12 AM (uFokq)

3 Oliver Willis: Like Superglue to Stupid.

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at February 24, 2011 09:12 AM (4oadQ)

4

Posted by: shillelagh at February 24, 2011 09:14 AM (Oz4Bj)

5 Filet-O-Fish mysteriously comes back every Lent.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at February 24, 2011 09:15 AM (MyByM)

6 Did Oliver Willis think the stunts pulled by Pelosi and the black congressmen outside the Capitol when 0-Care passed were "manufactured?"

Posted by: logprof at February 24, 2011 09:16 AM (IGeTJ)

7 It's weird but that old philosophical question always pops up in my mind, lately: "If a tree falls in the woods and nobody is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" If a Democrat is violent and the media refuses to report it, did it happen?

Posted by: Soothsayer at February 24, 2011 09:16 AM (uFokq)

8 Willis claims to have "seen way too many faked conservative video confrontations the last few years" yet fails to give even a single example of said fakery.

Lazy indeed.


Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 24, 2011 09:16 AM (9hSKh)

9 The MSM is part of the machine we need to take down. The next GOP President should yank the press credentials of Reuters, AP, CBS, NBC, ABC, MSNBC, CNBC and other outlets.

Posted by: Holger at February 24, 2011 09:17 AM (YxGud)

10 I posted this on the last thread, but it really should go on this one. Here is a You Tube collection of tweets hoping for the death of Walker.

Now, even the The Daily Beast is realizing the Left is a bunch a  violent assholes.

Twitter Users Wish Death on Scott Walker

.....
Shocker of Shockers: Daily Beast:

Wisconsin Protests: Rise of the Left Wingnuts

From The Daily Beast, but link goes to RRunner, NOT The Daily Beast.  OK to click.

Posted by: momma at February 24, 2011 09:17 AM (penCf)

11 Powder Keg  ..."Hey buddy got a light?"

Posted by: Paladin at February 24, 2011 09:17 AM (DPvCq)

12 That's their philosophy: "If we don't acknowledge it, it never happened."

Posted by: Soothsayer at February 24, 2011 09:17 AM (uFokq)

13 We do we get to push back?

Posted by: mpurinTexas(kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at February 24, 2011 09:17 AM (jxuSt)

14 Ace, you've been on fire lately with some very astute writing. My issue is we continue to play their game. I think at this point we should be thinking about rolling around in the mud with these fucksticks.

Posted by: mastour at February 24, 2011 09:17 AM (//zQc)

15 What honest intellect needs to resort to lies and obfuscation about his actual philosophy?

If Liberals were honest, they would never be elected.  So naturally they lie, and justify their lies.  And invent new means of lying.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 24, 2011 09:18 AM (081kp)

16 You have to hold the blinders on pretty tightly for this sort of thing to not shake them off. 

And I know it's not politically helpful, and I'm sure the union shit would sue, but after assaulting a small young woman, any man there should have felt obligated to rearrange that asshole's teeth.  That's not political violence, that's just plain getting what's coming. 

Posted by: shillelagh at February 24, 2011 09:18 AM (Oz4Bj)

17 Ace's nickname for Oliver Willis is Filet-o-Fish.

Posted by: Soothsayer at February 24, 2011 09:19 AM (uFokq)

18 I wonder how many other Soros underlings had a feeling that an incident was going to happen? Perhaps because they know they are whipping their junk yard dogs into hysterics and urging them to get a little bloody?

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at February 24, 2011 09:19 AM (4oadQ)

19 I think at this point we should be thinking about rolling around in the mud with these blood of these fucksticks.

Posted by: mastour at February 24, 2011 01:17 PM (//zQc)

Fixed.

Posted by: Holger at February 24, 2011 09:19 AM (YxGud)

20 You know, if the MBM wasn't as corrupt as a Mexican Police Chief with 4 new SUVs and a 19-room river-view villa with cartel guards, we wouldn't be having this problem.

HABITUAL LIARS. Cronies of the left-establishment political machine. Corrupt, slimy, underhanded, backstabbing trolls.

Really, there isn't enough invective to go around with these "people."

Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 24, 2011 09:19 AM (bxiXv)

22

"I can only assume they mean 2, and can only assume then that "in context" they consider some lives to be less worthy of protection than others."

Absolutely.  Not only that - they consider those of us on the Right unfit to live at all.  Leftist objections to "violent rhetoric" are nothing but a smokescreen.  They seek to persuade our side to disarm unilaterally, while at they same time they prepare themselves for the fight.  The Left always has been, and always will be, the first to go violent.  And when they do they rarely settle for half measures.

This union thuggery is only the beginning.  All conservatives should arm themselves, and find others of like mind to join with should the worst come to pass.

 

Posted by: Reactionary at February 24, 2011 09:19 AM (xUM1Q)

23 These people are scumbags. The whole rest of the fucking country is doing what it takes to get through the economic crap, but these motherfuckers think they're special, like all leftist scumbags.

Posted by: Berserker at February 24, 2011 09:19 AM (gWHrG)

24 Hey ergie, come out and defend your thugs, knucklehead!

Posted by: logprof at February 24, 2011 09:20 AM (RGp3s)

25 Does anyone remember the word "manufacture"? Since most of our manufacturing has moved to Mexico or China, I really doubt it. I can assure you that two thirds of eighth graders in Milwaukee don't know the word.

Posted by: bigred HO HO HEY HEY HOW MANY JOBS BARACK KILL TODAY? at February 24, 2011 09:20 AM (cX9pO)

26 can only assume then that "in context" they consider some lives to be less worthy of protection than others.
Your point is?

Posted by: margaret sanger at February 24, 2011 09:20 AM (7H/n0)

27 Ace - you should add the Mike Capuano "Time to get bloody" line to this post.

Posted by: Roadking at February 24, 2011 09:20 AM (hempZ)

28 re: a few thoughts about 'playing their game' Whether we like it or not we are playing their game, by their rules. We have a choice. We can continue to stand on the sidelines wondering what the heck is going on, or we can go out onto the field and try to defeat them.

Posted by: Soothsayer at February 24, 2011 09:21 AM (uFokq)

29 O'dub is the Kent Dorfman of the Soros stable.

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at February 24, 2011 09:21 AM (4oadQ)

30

If a Democrat is violent and the media refuses to report it, did it happen?

Damn straight, Skippy.

Posted by: YouTube at February 24, 2011 09:22 AM (pLTLS)

31 Will the morning shows run with this hatred as the top story for the next week? Check out the right scoop for video of a union thug screaming "i'll f*** you in the a**" So civil the left is!

Posted by: Dan at February 24, 2011 09:22 AM (mXBxH)

32 Posted by: mpurinTexas(kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at February 24, 2011 01:17 PM (jxuSt)

Note that this didn't happen in Texas.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at February 24, 2011 09:22 AM (8y9MW)

33 Those pieces of maggot excerment can deny all they want. It is recorded and it is gonna kill them. They have fucked themselves and the whole country sees what cowardly scumbag two bit punks they are. Thank you SEIU. And thank Zero for going to lengths to align himself with this trash.

Posted by: maddogg at February 24, 2011 09:22 AM (OlN4e)

34 Fritz Mondale was the last Democrat Presidential candidate to blurt out the truth: I will raise your taxes. I think he carried Minnesota against Reagan. Since that time its been the Mumbo Gumbo liberal lie fest.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at February 24, 2011 09:22 AM (qwK3S)

35 Our journey toward Concord bridge continues apace.

Posted by: Joe Mama at February 24, 2011 09:24 AM (pRKLf)

36 Check out the right scoop for video of a union thug screaming "i'll f*** you in the a**"

Nihilists!

Posted by: Mr. Barky at February 24, 2011 09:24 AM (qwK3S)

37 Q: If a tree falls in the forest and George Bush isn't President, who is there to hate?

A: Anyone who shows up who isn't them.

Posted by: SurferDoc at February 24, 2011 09:25 AM (o3bYL)

38 Ace -- you should add the Mike Capuano "Time to get bloody" line to this post.
It's even worse. He was pointing towards a small group of TEA Party protesters at the time.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 24, 2011 09:26 AM (7H/n0)

39 We're not going to get the MBM "back on track" because they're dependent on their corruption and they exclude voices that don't serve them.

Fox was a nice idea but they're too sensationalist and seem to get "lost" a lot.

I guess someone needs to try again. Can we PLEASE just get a news source that reports NEWS? As in what everyone else claims to do but doesn't? Relevant facts as best we can determine them?

No? Oh, well, it was nice while it lasted.

Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 24, 2011 09:26 AM (bxiXv)

40 That's the other thing about these thuggish leftists.  Has there been any case where they a) fought someone capable of defending themselves b) without first having overwhelming numbers?

I'm really tired of the Stand There and Take It mentality.  The Media will never, never, never report on these incidents, so all nobly standing there and getting beaten does is leave you with a medical bill.  I thought I heard yesterday she wouldn't even press charges against this guy.

No.  When they attack you, fight back.  If you're carrying a camera (and therefore can't fight back very effectively) make sure you take a wing-man to help out.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at February 24, 2011 09:26 AM (8y9MW)

41 Shut the fuck up you violent reich wingers!!! 

Or I'll kick the shit out of you, faggot!!!

Now go and pay your taxes teabaggers!!

Posted by: SEIUAFSCMEAFLCIONEAAFT at February 24, 2011 09:26 AM (Rn2kl)

42 Posted by: Joe Mama at February 24, 2011 01:24 PM (pRKLf)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ju4Gla2odw
Charlton Heston's speech

From my cold dead hands!

Posted by: Holger at February 24, 2011 09:27 AM (YxGud)

43 IIRC Dan Rostenkowski said that Mondale told him at the Democrat National Convention "Look at 'em. We're going to tax their ass off."

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at February 24, 2011 09:27 AM (4oadQ)

44 We are witnessing the dying thralls of a mortally wounded animal: THE DEMOCRATS. We are winning, just read the headlines and look at their actions. Death is in the air and the Commie in Chief cannot save them. I lament the Carter Administration... Hell even Clinton wasn't this bad and I thought I would never hear myself say that. But there is blood in the water and smell of Democrat death is strong!!!!

Posted by: The Grimm Reaper :-) at February 24, 2011 09:27 AM (SZy+Y)

45

This reminds me of a reoccuring theme in Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged. The main character, Dagny(as well as other producers) would force the Looters and Moochers to say their ideas outloud.

The looters and moochers would often making meaningless statements with a wink and a nod. And like the media, it was understood by sympathetic parties what they really meant. However, when they had conversations with the producers, the producers would force them to take their bland statements to the logical conslusions which would result in them having to state their true beliefs out loud, which was damaging to their cause.

 

Posted by: Ben at February 24, 2011 09:27 AM (wuv1c)

46

This is why I can't go to events like this.  The moment that sub-human decided it was ok to assault someone else, his very life would have been in imminent danger.  I had a surge of rage watching that video and there's no way that pissant would have left the scene under his own power. 

No.

Fucking.

Way.

And I would have played right into their hands.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 24, 2011 09:27 AM (A/oSU)

47 If a Democrat is violent and the media refuses to report it, did it happen? ------------------------------ Not really, at least not to the detriment to the larger group. The MBM could actually be seen as perpetuating the violence because they are so unlikely to report it, and when they do it has 'context'. The MBM has basically become the enablers of the violent left.

Posted by: MJ at February 24, 2011 09:27 AM (BKOsZ)

48 You fucked up. You trusted me.

Posted by: Walter Cronkite at February 24, 2011 09:27 AM (bxiXv)

49 "They’ve been comparing themselves to the Egyptians ousting Mubarak. Looks like they’re not too far off, given that they share the tendency to assault women with cameras.”
That is the best single line I've heard since this whole mess began! How it cuts to the core. I'm already married, but please, Tabitha, tell me you'll join my harem when DOMA falls.

Posted by: JoeInMD at February 24, 2011 09:28 AM (PIahf)

50

Fritz Mondale was the last Democrat Presidential candidate to blurt out the truth: I will raise your taxes. I think he carried Minnesota against Reagan. Since that time its been the Mumbo Gumbo liberal lie fest.

More accurately, it was an entertaining interlude featuring the exception that proves the rule of the Mumbo Gumbo liberal lie fest.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at February 24, 2011 09:28 AM (qwK3S)

51

To the Tea Partiers who are bemoaning the unfair double standard being exhibited by the media and most branches of law enforcement and government I say, no fucking shit.

Posted by: Peaceful pro-life protestor declared a Federal criminal by Bill Clinton at February 24, 2011 09:28 AM (R2fpr)

52

The burning question is - would any of these thugs make it onto Kieth Olbermans "Worst Person in the World" list?

And now he's gone and we'll never know................

Posted by: Roadking at February 24, 2011 09:28 AM (hempZ)

53 39 Ace -- you should add the Mike Capuano "Time to get bloody" line to this post.
It's even worse. He was pointing towards a small group of TEA Party protesters at the time.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 24, 2011 01:26 PM (7H/n0)

--Is there video of it?

Posted by: logprof at February 24, 2011 09:29 AM (RGp3s)

54 35 Fritz Mondale was the last Democrat Presidential candidate to blurt out the truth: I will raise your taxes. I think he carried Minnesota against Reagan. Since that time its been the Mumbo Gumbo liberal lie fest.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at February 24, 2011 01:22 PM (qwK3S)


Ogabe blurted out the truth plenty...The MBM just ignored it.

1-"My plan will necessarily bankrupt coal fired plants"

2-"I wanted gas prices that high, just not so quickly"

3-"Bitter clingers...etc, etc"

Posted by: Hedgehog at February 24, 2011 09:30 AM (Rn2kl)

55 From Fox Nation
Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.), the co-chairman of the CPC, said Walker was "is basically taking up the posture of a dictator"

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at February 24, 2011 09:30 AM (4oadQ)

56

Ace - you should add the Mike Capuano "Time to get bloody" line to this post.

 

Yup, same hypotard that denounced the "uncivil speech" that "resulted in the Gabby Gifford's shooting".  Rat bastard complains about angry rhetoric and tone spews this crap and the MFM can't even be bothered to report the hypocrisy.  Can you imagine if he was a Republican?

Posted by: runningrn at February 24, 2011 09:30 AM (ihSHD)

57

And they also assume that the right side of the spectrum is comprised of people who, by definition (since they do not accept the politics of the left) are intellectually challenged and insensitive at best; or more likely evil, knuckle dragging, bigoted, hate-mongers.

A bit off topic, but maybe not too far. I watched a legal drama I liked, The Good Wife, a couple of nights ago. A ballistics expert who happened to be conservative was being sued by a liberal activist attorney for an error in previous conclusions and expert testimony that had sent an African American to jail, probably in error. During the trial the lib lawyer introduced a picture of the ballistics expert at a tea party standing near someone who (naturally) had a sign saying "Go Back To The Jungle". The lawyer grilled the guy on whether he was a tea party member, etc. Although the guy "defended" himself ably, this seemed like cover fire to me to conceal the larger point. The premise they want to establish is that if you belong to a Tea Party, or even attend one; or have any conservative leanings at all, you are therefore a suspicious character by definition. And that you should be presumed to be on the defense for being one of the conservative knuckle draggers.

There is nothing the left would like more than to have it presumed that in court they can ask you if you are a Tea Party member, subscribe to National Review, follow AoSHQ, or even are a Republican. And that if you "confess" to any or all of these, it is considered valid evidence of your racism, bigotry, lack of intelligence, etc.

Posted by: RM at February 24, 2011 09:30 AM (GkYyh)

58 So you do think Tabitha is hot, right

Posted by: Jean at February 24, 2011 09:30 AM (WkuV6)

59 47 Sometimes it is better to just stab them. No. Really.

Posted by: SurferDoc at February 24, 2011 09:31 AM (o3bYL)

60 Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 24, 2011 01:27 PM (A/oSU)

I disagree.  Defending someone who can't defend themselves is noble, and that news would have gotten out.  Oh, the Media would try to embargo it, but it wouldn't have lasted very long.  There are too many ways for the information to get out, now.  Especially if you waited for him to take his first actual swing, there wouldn't be much they could do about it.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at February 24, 2011 09:31 AM (8y9MW)

61 Unfortunately, Dems believe that anything they see that goes against their view has either been 'doctored' 'manufactured' 'made up entirely'.

I should know.  My Rachel MadCow loving brother is an idiot.  Right, Kemp

I really think that is the main diff. between far left and conservatives.  We (usually) have a set of standards/guidelines/etc that we look at every situation, fact, truth, etc through.

The Left will never be true to themselves, they are only true to their 'feelings'.

Basically, the Left will always have rose colored glasses/blinders on when faced with what their side has done/is doing.

The Right was pissed at Bush for spending, no we are pissed at Obama for spending.  We are consistent. The left is simply consistently biased.


Posted by: momma at February 24, 2011 09:31 AM (penCf)

62

And I would have played right into their hands.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 24, 2011 01:27 PM (A/oSU)

The reason for that is collusion between the left and the press, a grotesque betrayal by the press and grotesque aggression by the left.

It's gonna happen sooner or later. As someone once said blandly at the sight of great horror, "at this point the melee became general."

If we're very, very lucky we can be loud enough to get past the MBM and pull the blinders from the eyes of The Mushy Middle who watch and don't learn.

If we're not lucky, well, we're not lucky. Sad days.

Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 24, 2011 09:31 AM (bxiXv)

63 Dictator? I expect more from Al-Ellison. Gov Walker is a... SLAVE MASTER!

Posted by: Soothsayer at February 24, 2011 09:31 AM (uFokq)

64

I was doing some reading on the AFL CIO late last night and it finally dawned on me that these unions are the third-rail of Democrat party politics.  We are literally talking about hundreds of billions of dollars, with millions of members and political leverage like nothing else.  The payroll of the AFL CIO is unbelievable, shocking and I also found it interesting how much of the information i.e. web pages have been redacted and or 'out of order' on the subject of salaries for the top Union officials.

Beck is right... the unions are going to melt-down.  They are unscrupulous and working in sync with progressives in the upper levels to promote a liberal ideology.  It truly is an unholy alliance of sorts.  

When you have a union president i.e. Richard Trumka in constant communicado with the White House every day, something is very, very wrong. 

The unions are being exposed and their leaders are demagoging and whipping up violent sentiment.

The union heads, i.e. Richard Trumka and also the head of Amercia Center for Progress, John Podesta have unclean hands; they are fomenting hatred and a climate of violence and should be held accountable.

Posted by: Journolist at February 24, 2011 09:32 AM (iHfo1)

65 God, I wish they would bring some of their shit to my section of the country. We can show them the bloody time they want. All they want, plus a dose. I fucking hate those communist motherfuckers.

Posted by: maddogg at February 24, 2011 09:33 AM (OlN4e)

66 #54  --Is there video of it?

Here's one, but the sound quality is meh. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 24, 2011 09:33 AM (9hSKh)

67 Media does not report it, so most have no idea it happened. Sad.

Posted by: Dan at February 24, 2011 09:33 AM (mXBxH)

68 Video of Congressman Mike "Union Thug" Capuano calling for the crowd to get bloody. At about 1:55

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at February 24, 2011 09:33 AM (4oadQ)

69 When I posted that video this morning my question was why isn't this young lady pressing assault charges. These union thugs are going to keep doing this kind of shit until one of two things happens, either they start getting thrown in jail or the conservatives bring their own thugs and start beating the living hell out of them.

We should at least make an effort to follow the law first before resorting to beating the hell out of them.

Posted by: Vic at February 24, 2011 09:34 AM (M9Ie6)

70 Look, this is the typical leftwing hate spasm that occurs when they lose. Actually, this is their death spiral, they know that they can't lose this fight and will go balls out violent and rule twelvy.

Posted by: joeindc44 at February 24, 2011 09:34 AM (QxSug)

71

I guess the MFM's refusal to cover all the Walker as Hitler signs shows an unwillingness to "look for the Union Libel".

Posted by: runningrn at February 24, 2011 09:34 AM (ihSHD)

72 >>>And they also assume that the right side of the spectrum is comprised of people who, by definition (since they do not accept the politics of the left) are intellectually challenged and insensitive at best; or more likely evil, knuckle dragging, bigoted, hate-mongers. Very true, and I sure wish they would state this assumption forthrightly so we can have an open and straight debate about it, rather than it always being gauzily implied as a secret assumption.

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2011 09:34 AM (nj1bB)

73 From Fox Nation
Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.), the co-chairman of the CPC, said Walker was "is basically taking up the posture of a dictator"

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth

I'm a Moron, so I'm confused. Didn't several beautiful people express the wish that Obama had dictatorial powers? And this guy is acting like it's a bad thing. Maybe this yutz could then explain why Nancy Pelosi and Waxman were happy that they didn't have to even pretend to be bi-partisan anymore. And Waxman was referring to deafeats within his own party.

Posted by: Blue Hen at February 24, 2011 09:35 AM (R2fpr)

74 68 #54  --Is there video of it?

Here's one, but the sound quality is meh. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 24, 2011 01:33 PM (9hSKh)

--Thanks.  I knew Capuano was an asshole long ago.  I voted for Ray Flynn against him in his first primary, but to no avail.  Flynn was just not "bloody" enough.

Posted by: logprof at February 24, 2011 09:35 AM (IGeTJ)

75 It really sucks to be a teabagging ass-sniffer these days. Politics gets nasty, and you all burst into fucking tears. Grow a pair or buy a fucking dress. Just remember that as soon as you actually fight back though we will accuse YOU of being the violent ones, because thats what we do. When you can't win in a fair fight, you just lie and scream. Kos told meh!

Posted by: ColdSore at February 24, 2011 09:35 AM (m54i4)

76 Posted by: maddogg at February 24, 2011 01:33 PM (OlN4e)

I'll say again:  notice this didn't happen in Texas.

Can you imagine some SEIU Thug attacking people a TEA Party in Texas?  Outside of Austin, I mean.

They'd be lucky to leave alive, let alone under their own power.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at February 24, 2011 09:35 AM (8y9MW)

77

Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn. Mecca), the co-chairman of the CPC, said Walker was "is basically taking up the posture of a dictator"

 

FIFY

Posted by: Crowsting at February 24, 2011 09:35 AM (61BD9)

78 Here's one, but the sound quality is meh.

The "we need to get a little bloody" part is around 3:30.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 24, 2011 09:35 AM (9hSKh)

79 That being said, it's up to people on the right to never let this stuff get swept under the rug. What's the point of a fox news if they don't point this shit out? There needs to be some counter voice to the nearly monolithic palace guard media. All conservative pols need to reiterate these points, no more agree with the left to get along. They've basically declared war on everyone who disagrees with them. If you play nice, you're complicit in their rule 12 attacks.

Posted by: joeindc44 at February 24, 2011 09:36 AM (QxSug)

80

 Video of Congressman Mike "Union Thug" Capuano calling for the crowd to get bloody. At about 1:55

 

This asshat wants to run against Scott Brown in the next election.  I know we are all disappointed with stuff Brown has done, but he's definitely a lot better than this thug-stooge.

 


 

Posted by: runningrn at February 24, 2011 09:36 AM (ihSHD)

81 Vic is right. This won't stop until the perpetrators are held accountable. That goes for Democrats in the legislatures, too. They'll continue to cheat, lie, and slander until the Republicans say enough and backhand them.

Posted by: Soothsayer at February 24, 2011 09:36 AM (uFokq)

82 Very true, and I sure wish they would state this assumption forthrightly so we can have an open and straight debate about it, rather than it always being gauzily implied as a secret assumption.

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2011 01:34 PM (nj1bB)

 

At the rate that their "mask" has slipped Ace they will be screaming "fuck you teabaggers!" on MSNBC in another 7 months.

Posted by: CAC at February 24, 2011 09:37 AM (lV4Fs)

83 --Is there video of it?
I don't know... I read it here at Weasel Zippers.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 24, 2011 09:37 AM (7H/n0)

84 Heh, already a libtard excreting comments on that Capuano video Kratos linked.  I had to respond.

Posted by: logprof at February 24, 2011 09:37 AM (RGp3s)

85 77 It really sucks to be a teabagging ass-sniffer these days. Politics gets nasty, and you all burst into fucking tears. Grow a pair or buy a fucking dress.

Posted by: Cole Sear at February 24, 2011 01:35 PM (m54i4)

Honey Badger don't give a shit.

Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 24, 2011 09:37 AM (bxiXv)

86 I am already in Firing Squad territory here. Put the bastards against a wall and open fire.

Posted by: Holger at February 24, 2011 09:37 AM (YxGud)

87 My initial reaction is to say I would love to have been there to activate this motherfucker's hospitalization coverage. But that never happens. If Tabitha had been with me, Captain Rapist Stache's spit would have dried up and he'd look for easier pickings. And there's always easier pickings. And most likely we wouldn't have had video of it.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 24, 2011 09:37 AM (oJKHo)

88 First take down the Public Unions and then the Private Unions. That is what the RICO statutes are for. To unionize is to racketeer.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at February 24, 2011 09:37 AM (qIHlG)

89 How can this be an AOSHQ post without a gratiutious Tabitha pic? 

Posted by: Jean at February 24, 2011 09:38 AM (WkuV6)

90 "If a Democrat is violent and the media refuses to report it, did it happen?" Sadly the MBM will find some way to spin it into a positive. "You see Mr. Democrat was only teaching this 90 year old grandmother at a TEA party protest how to defend herself. All the time she spent in the hospital with a broken hip allowed he to receive top notch ObamaCare and more time with her family. If the TEA Party only took better care of grandmothers, something they obviously don't want be cutting programs to Welfare Queens, with more grandchildren than anyone, then maybe a Democrat wouldn't have had to hold this 'Teaching Moment'. In Massachusetts, I for one look forward to watching new Citizen's Energy Propaganda for 'free home heating oil' stolen from the people of Venezuela in a few months. I'm sure Joe 'I like to beat my wife, drive drunk, and fuck underage babysitters' Kennedy will look great hanging out with Quadaffi & Hugo Chavez in those TV spots.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at February 24, 2011 09:39 AM (ijjAe)

91

Rep. Ryan in Madison: "I didn't like the legislation that was moving through Washington the last two years. I didn't like cap-and-trade, I didn't like ObamaCare, I didn't like the stimulus-- but I didn't walk out. We stayed and did our jobs...Elections have consequences; they won, we lost. That's the way it works."

His senator is among the fleebaggers.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 24, 2011 09:39 AM (iMgAa)

92 What's the point of a fox news if they don't point this shit out?

Fox did show that video this morning. Even on F&F.

Posted by: Vic at February 24, 2011 09:39 AM (M9Ie6)

93

This asshat wants to run against Scott Brown in the next election.  I know we are all disappointed with stuff Brown has done, but he's definitely a lot better than this thug-stooge.

 


 

Posted by: runningrn at February 24, 2011 01:36 PM (ihSHD)


--Considering Capuano was so inept he lost to Martha Coakleey, I say please, try again shitbird.

Posted by: logprof at February 24, 2011 09:39 AM (IGeTJ)

94

This asshat wants to run against Scott Brown in the next election.  I know we are all disappointed with stuff Brown has done, but he's definitely a lot better than this thug-stooge.

Posted by: runningrn at February 24, 2011 01:36 PM (ihSHD)

 

Only a Rino would take Brown over a violent, obviously unbalanced union thug who wants to send conservatives literally to the hospital. Right?

Right?

 

 

Posted by: CAC at February 24, 2011 09:39 AM (lV4Fs)

95 Compare this to the completely fabricated bullshit story about that leftist instigator who tried to assault Ron Paul in his SUV. Remember that? She was 'stomped' by Tea Party thugs.

Posted by: Soothsayer at February 24, 2011 09:39 AM (uFokq)

96 It seams as if there are a hell of a lot of us who believe in the rule of law. We attend some protests, behave ourselves and even clean up afterwords. We allow the MSM to portray us as they will and bitch like hell about it on these blogs. We also allow the MSM to dictate what is news and what is not. We all know how that's working out. Seams if we are going to be portrayed as neanderthals anyway that at least we should stand up for ourselves when we do get attacked. To let that girl get smoked without repercussion is an insult. To say "I got that on film" as if it's some kind of victory is inexplicable. Media will never show it and has proven itself able to ignore such videos. There is no victory here for us unless we fight back if and only when provoked. We cannot and must not be bullied into submission. I truly am afraid for what's ahead as there is vacuum at the top of the pyramid and a leaderless, rudderless ship can only go where the currents take it. I sure hope we land on the beach instead of the rocks.

Posted by: Meddler at February 24, 2011 09:40 AM (3u6Tl)

97 "Yes, I support Israel... when they're not being assholes!"

Posted by: Stupid leftist coont at February 24, 2011 09:40 AM (bxvFd)

98 It really sucks to be a teabagging ass-sniffer these days. Politics gets nasty, and you all burst into fucking tears. Grow a pair or buy a fucking dress.

Posted by: Cole Sear

 

Hey look everybody! He made a pun! it 'sucks to be a tea-bagger'. That's funny.

Thanks cole slaw. That was a nice contribution you made to the circle. Everyone is enriched because you shared.

P.S. Buying dresses doesn't seem to help, since we have video of a thug attacking a woman, which you seem to be in favor of. So that's the part of the Egyptian rebellion you wish to emulate. Understood.

Posted by: Blue Hen at February 24, 2011 09:40 AM (R2fpr)

99

I was doing some reading on the AFL CIO late last night and it finally dawned on me that these unions are the third-rail of Democrat party politics.  We are literally talking about hundreds of billions of dollars, with millions of members and political leverage like nothing else.  The payroll of the AFL CIO is unbelievable, shocking and I also found it interesting how much of the information i.e. web pages have been redacted and or 'out of order' on the subject of salaries for the top Union officials.

 

True dat.  Unions basically launder money for the Democrat party.  It was satisfying that they spent 200 million dollars on the Democrats in the last mid-term elections and got their filthy butts handed to them. 

I'm not surprised that the salaries of top Union officials aren't available.  These are the most opaque, corrupt, and hypocritical organizations.  SEIU refused to let its own employees unionize while they foist unionization on everyone else.  Too bad the MFM doesn't report on all the crap that Unions get away with.

Posted by: runningrn at February 24, 2011 09:41 AM (ihSHD)

100 77 It really sucks to be a teabagging ass-sniffer these days. Politics gets nasty, and you all burst into fucking tears. Grow a pair or buy a fucking dress.

Posted by: Cole Sear at February 24, 2011 01:35 PM (m54i4)

--Considering how much your guys are whining about their make-work union jobs being taken away, that's rich, Mr. Internet Muscleman.

Posted by: logprof at February 24, 2011 09:41 AM (RGp3s)

101 99 "Yes, I support Israel... when they're not being assholes!"

No, no, no... you're supposed to say that while you support Israel, you don't support "Zionism" *wink, wink*.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 24, 2011 09:41 AM (9hSKh)

102 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!  --Isiah 5:20



Posted by: Warden at February 24, 2011 09:42 AM (fVIlG)

103 The footage from the past week, had it happened at a Tea Party rally, would be getting aired for the next 10 years between all the Nazi Germany references, racial and ethnic slurs, assaults on women, and so forth.

Since it's from the lefties, though, you can hear the crickets chirping over the MSM's discussions about it.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 24, 2011 09:42 AM (bxvFd)

104 Why wasn't this guy beaten down?

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at February 24, 2011 09:42 AM (qIHlG)

105 Speaking for this single fat, dull, talentless hack, I resent getting lumped into a category with Mr. Willis. I expect a full retraction before the end of the day, sir!

Posted by: Sinner at February 24, 2011 09:42 AM (U/yZ+)

106

It really sucks to be a teabagging ass-sniffer these days. Politics gets nasty, and you all burst into fucking tears. Grow a pair or buy a fucking dress.

 

Awww, I don't need any more dresses, I have plenty. 

I could be wrong, but I think this is a sock.


 

Posted by: runningrn at February 24, 2011 09:42 AM (ihSHD)

107 See that? They control the daily narrative. We went from "Let's have civil discourse" to "Politics get nasty sometimes."

Posted by: Soothsayer at February 24, 2011 09:42 AM (uFokq)

108 88 I am already in Firing Squad territory here. Put the bastards against a wall and open fire.

Posted by: Holger at February 24, 2011 01:37 PM (YxGud)

Too good for that scum. You shoot a Man. You beat rabid dogs to death with a piece of spring steel cored hydraulic hose.

Posted by: maddogg at February 24, 2011 09:42 AM (OlN4e)

109

These assholes do this because they know they will get a pass by the media, the police, the government.  They are not afraid of us and our phone cameras.

Maybe we need to change the calculus.  At the risk of banishment, if they (the union goons and their masters) continue to engage in intimidation, bypassing the democratic process, I can see a modern version of Michael Collins' Twelve Apostles.  If people see that they are shut out of the political process, they will resort to other, less pleasant means, to achieve their objectives.

Posted by: BUTCH at February 24, 2011 09:43 AM (0APJ3)

110 77 It really sucks to be a teabagging ass-sniffer these days. Politics gets nasty, and you all burst into fucking tears. Grow a pair or buy a fucking dress.
Posted by: Cole Sear

Looks like someone bought a lifetime subscription to Internet Tough Guy Magazine. Did they throw in set of ninja throwing stars with that deal, Cole?

Posted by: Warden at February 24, 2011 09:43 AM (fVIlG)

111 Posted by: ace at February 24, 2011 01:34 PM (nj1bB)

Ah, but if they did that, their precious "Narrative" would fall apart in days (heck, in the age of Twitter, probably hours).  Because to admit what they think of us actually paints them as the bigots, and all those people they've been conditioning for years to be kind of squishy realize (while still being squishy) that the actual bully here is the Left.

Posted by: Cole Sear at February 24, 2011 01:35 PM (m54i4)

So, let me get this straight.  A psychotic schizophrenic, who'd had run-ins with the local (Democrat, natch) sheriff before kills 6 and wounds several more, including a US Representative, and the Right is supposed to fall all over itself apologizing and agree to let you take our God given Right to self defense away.

However, a seemingly quite sane Union Thug beats up a girl (tough guy, huh?  How's that for "grow some balls or buy a dress?") and the Right (again, funny how it's always the Right that's supposed to do something) is just supposed to take it.  If we comment on it and point out how despicable it, and the lack of coverage surrounding it are, we're crying.

Okay.  I'm glad we got that cleared up.

I suspect that Axelturf is going to want his money back, though.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at February 24, 2011 09:43 AM (8y9MW)

112 The Fourth Reich is mobilizing worldwide.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at February 24, 2011 09:43 AM (qIHlG)

113

Posted by: Cole Sear at February 24, 2011 01:35 PM (m54i4)

Why aren't you hiding in Illinois with the rest of the leftard pussies?

Posted by: Cicero at February 24, 2011 09:43 AM (QKKT0)

Posted by: andycanuck at February 24, 2011 09:43 AM (7H/n0)

115 Our union organizers are just like the freedom fighters in Lybia.

Posted by: Barack Obama at February 24, 2011 09:43 AM (t88/e)

116 I think "edited" is the attempt by the violent left and msm (but I repeat myself) to claim that the "context" has been stripped away thus invalidating the footage. So yeah, "context" and "edited" and "manufactured" are officially devoid of all meaning.

Posted by: BigDaddy1964 at February 24, 2011 09:43 AM (pOcKt)

117 We should at least make an effort to follow the law first before resorting to beating the hell out of them.

We have and they just sweep it under the rug. Remember Kenneth Gladney


Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 24, 2011 09:44 AM (tf9Ne)

118

No sign of state Democrats

Though that was 2hrs ago.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 24, 2011 09:45 AM (iMgAa)

119 read you robert conquest people. This is how the brown shirts intimidated people. This spasm of lefty hate and violence is only the beginning. They've marched through every institution, they've inculcated their values into the young and into our newest American citizens.

Posted by: joeindc44 at February 24, 2011 09:45 AM (QxSug)

120

69 Media does not report it, so most have no idea it happened. Sad.

How do we correct this?  To me, it's not good enough that there's YouTube vids of this stuff.  We need to find a way to get it in front of the public at large.   There are so many misguided, but otherwise good, people out there that need to see and know the truth!  FoxNews isn't cutting it.  We need to find a way.

Posted by: havedash at February 24, 2011 09:45 AM (sFD5n)

121 a bit long, but a good read

Posted by: Sgt. Batguano at February 24, 2011 09:45 AM (ehKDD)

122

But that never happens. If Tabitha had been with me, Captain Rapist Stache's spit would have dried up and he'd look for easier pickings. And there's always easier pickings. And most likely we wouldn't have had video of it.

 

Empire of Jeff, I'm still laughing over your "Pez Dispenser" comment yesterday!

Posted by: runningrn at February 24, 2011 09:45 AM (ihSHD)

123 Cole Sear is busy licking my ass clean at the moment.  He will be done shortly and will then be able to respond to your inquiries.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at February 24, 2011 09:45 AM (c45xH)

124

Hello, everyone! 

All I can say is HAH!  Check out the breathless email I just received from my local branch of the SEIU (emphases mine):

Please attend Senate hearing on SB3 tomorrow

Anti-worker protesters, like those promoting the attacks on Wisconsin's public workers, are bringing their destructive demands to the NH Statehouse tomorrow to fight for the most harmful pension measures they can put upon us through this new legislature.

They have sent out an urgent call to step into the middle of the NH pension debate, telling their followers that we are the ones that aren't paying our fair share, we are the ones passing the buck onto future generations and we are the ones raising property taxes. Their tall tale, convenient rewriting of history must be revealed for what it is: LIES!

Your presence is urgently needed at the Statehouse tomorrow! The public hearing at 1:00 pm on SB3 must draw a huge crowd to collectively, loudly and proudly proclaim the truth. This is our state, and we simply cannot allow it to be taken over by corporate profiteers who will stop at nothing less than the full destruction of public workers, our unions, and the rest of the middle class!

Join us as we continue the fight to Secure Your Future! This group doesn't think NH's workers are as committed to the fight for decent treatment as Wisconsin workers are...let's prove them wrong!
 
-------

The full text of SB3 is available here.

What do I say to my union?  SUCK IT.

Just for the record, SB3 particularly targets non-vested State employees (I happen to be one of them).  You become vested in NH State service after you've been a State employee for ten years.  The majority of NH State employees are not vested.  A lot of non-vested employees are in high turnover positions - secretaries, lab techs, what have you - so it makes total sense to attach these reforms to people who haven't been "paying into the system" for that long and who may end up leaving State service before they become vested.  Most of the vested employees I know have upwards of thirty years in State service (and at least 25% of the ones I know are actually useful). 

Side note: If you read the bill and wonder what the hell "Group I" and "Group II" are:  Group II is comprised of firefighters and police officers.  Group I is everyone else in State employment ("employee and teacher"). 

Posted by: MWR at February 24, 2011 09:46 AM (4df7R)

125 The hate on this site is so evident. People just want to make a living wage. $60K plus retirement and insurance isn't near what the bankster crooks make. We're talking about our children!

Posted by: Rainbow Phoenix at February 24, 2011 09:46 AM (BKOsZ)

126 Vague and imprecise word usage is a defining characteristic of the left in general. 

It drives me crazy by it's Humpty-Dumpty nature.  Words are not a means of communication so much as a weapon to be wielded.

Posted by: toby928™ at February 24, 2011 09:46 AM (GTbGH)

127 Keep them trolls a-trolling, Rawhide!



Posted by: SurferDoc at February 24, 2011 09:47 AM (o3bYL)

128 Smells like a movement!

Posted by: Filet O. Fish at February 24, 2011 09:47 AM (qndXR)

129 The fun part will be waiting for the local Diocesan rag "The Dialog"  to print an insightful column condemning this violence and naming unions. At least two columns condemned the Tea Party, naming it specifically. Thankfully several people contested this and their letters were actually printed. They won't publish my letters anymore. Perhaps it has something to do with my observations as to the quality of the "Catholic News Service" they use and the ideological inflexibility of the editorial staff. Referring to someone as Father Coughlin re-incarnated probably didn't help.

Posted by: Blue Hen at February 24, 2011 09:47 AM (R2fpr)

130 We went from "Let's have civil discourse" to "Politics get nasty sometimes."

Posted by: Soothsayer at February 24, 2011 01:42 PM (uFokq)

Actually I think we went from "We the MBM will lie to protect our precious leftist agitators," to "We the MBM will lie to protect our precious leftist agitators."

That's why a generic target icon on an otherwise blank map is a "death threat" from a Republican, and actual death threats against actual people by a Democrat is not newsworthy.

Also, your average MBM "reporter" has all the moral fiber and ethical sense of a Pelican Bay resident.

Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 24, 2011 09:48 AM (bxiXv)

131


We have and they just sweep it under the rug. Remember Kenneth Gladney

 

Yeah, but it was ok he got the beat down because he's not really black.  The NAACP refused to support him.  Obviously, he is just one of those black-face, lawn jockey minstrel dudes.  No story.

OK, so let's get back to our extensive Lady Gaga coverage...

 


Posted by: Your Betters in Teh MSM at February 24, 2011 09:48 AM (ihSHD)

132 We went from "Let's have civil discourse" to "Politics get nasty sometimes."

We?  Who's this "we?"  I was never at "Let's have civil discourse."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at February 24, 2011 09:48 AM (8y9MW)

133 You what this makes me think?

It makes me think that my teachers lied to me about all that union-busting pinkerton bullshit they talked about going on last century.

Seriously,  knowing what i know now about the left's tactics, I am pretty sure that i would started mowing down strikers that disrupted my factory if i was there back then...

Posted by: nine coconuts at February 24, 2011 09:48 AM (DHNp4)

134 Why oh why.

Why so much public support for for public employee unions?

Why so much public support for the right of public employee unions to have collective bargaining?

Why does the public seem to not want anything back from these public employees in terms of lower wages, lower health care insurance costs, lower pension costs, removal of work rules like classroom size, hours, tenure, etc.?


Posted by: I-wuz-too-hip-now-I'm-just-cynical at February 24, 2011 09:48 AM (4sQwu)

135

I suggest another, perhaps variation on 2:

3.  The left is having a seemingly restorative cathartic moment in the form of its mob of neÂ’er-do-wells.  A visible non-leftist is such a juicy, irresistible target it really isnÂ’t fair to hold Union E. Thuggsalot responsible for such actions.  Therefore, it doesnÂ’t really “count” as political violence, and/or it was her own fault for being so irresistible in the first place, and she didnÂ’t belong there, and IÂ’m punching air in pedestrian and if you walk into my fist it is really your fault.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at February 24, 2011 09:48 AM (IVQSY)

136

Empire of Jeff, I'm still laughing over your "Pez Dispenser" comment yesterday!

Posted by: runningrn

 

That danged coment needs to be enshrined somewhere.

Posted by: Blue Hen at February 24, 2011 09:49 AM (R2fpr)

137 Grow a pair or buy a fucking dress.


What the hell is that supposed to mean?  Now your saying gay mean have no balls?!  It has to be what you are saying because I know you aren't saying women are weak.  You'd be too stupid to do that here where most of the women can hunt, fish, fix their own cars, and kick the shit out of a man, all the while still cooking dinner.

Posted by: momma at February 24, 2011 09:49 AM (penCf)

138

Meaning no disrespect to our union brothers, but none of them look to be able to last that long should a melee start. Maybe if they worked a little harder they wouldn't be so fat. Based on age, they don't look like they are going to be around too much longer either. I wonder if the union management has considered the risk of senority privledge on the demographic makeup of their union? Funny, a bunch of overweight angry white guys does not really intimidate anyone. That and the fact that the media has missed the whiteness of the rage.

Posted by: Inspector Cleuseau at February 24, 2011 09:49 AM (Q5+Og)

139 Oliver Willis:  like kryptonite to coherence, integrity, and moderate consumption of sweets.

Posted by: Kensington at February 24, 2011 09:49 AM (mEyVv)

140 BTW, Barry is not competent enough to be a Hitler.  He's more a Mussolini, except for the trains-running-on-time part.

Posted by: toby928™ at February 24, 2011 09:50 AM (GTbGH)

141 These blogger types need to start bringing Batman with them. A domestic terrorist even pushed Malkin.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at February 24, 2011 09:51 AM (qIHlG)

142 Filet O. Fish@131:
"Smells like a movement!"

My bad.

Posted by: Oliver Willis at February 24, 2011 09:51 AM (mEyVv)

143 Posted by: MWR at February 24, 2011 01:46 PM (4df7R)

Please tell me you're an actual member of the Union.  It would be SO AWESOME for you to go in your purple shirt (or jacket, or whatever) take the mic, and call them all out for the idiots they are.

Of course, you'd probably want to bring a couple of other stout fellows along, IYKWIM.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at February 24, 2011 09:51 AM (8y9MW)

144 137 Why oh why.

Why so much public support for for public employee unions?

Why so much public support for the right of public employee unions to have collective bargaining?

Because the general public are assholes. Welcome to 2011.

Posted by: Barbarian at February 24, 2011 09:52 AM (EL+OC)

145 Empire of Jeff, I'm still laughing over your "Pez Dispenser" comment yesterday! It's funny 'cause it's TRUE.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 24, 2011 09:52 AM (1zgwP)

146 Meaning no disrespect to our union brothers, but none of them look to be able to last that long should a melee start ------------- This is a pretty good point. Most of these guys look like they left the manual part of the labor about 30 years ago.

Posted by: MJ at February 24, 2011 09:52 AM (BKOsZ)

147

Grow a pair or buy a fucking dress

I have a dress. And my forces have just defeated five nations simultaneously

Posted by: P.M. Golda Meir at February 24, 2011 09:52 AM (R2fpr)

148 "conspiratorial" is another one they've been banging lately. conspiracy theories are, as the media tell us, inherently false and betray the paranoia of the messenger. so, with just a little newspeak, real life conspiracies like the NEA propaganda initiative, Journolist,  Cloward/Piven, etc. can easily be dismissed.

Posted by: Blackford Oakes at February 24, 2011 09:52 AM (EAtJr)

149

Empire of Jeff, I'm still laughing over your "Pez Dispenser" comment yesterday!

Posted by: runningrn at February 24, 2011 01:45 PM (ihSHD)


I missed it.  Please repeat.

Posted by: momma at February 24, 2011 09:52 AM (penCf)

150 We are Evil Monsters in their eyes, and this is the open-secret assumption that is the special "context" that actually justifies, in their minds, the double-standard. But because they refuse to state it openly, we have proxy fights over the elephant in the room. by Ace

 True dat.  It seems that the militant left will use this as a standard defense to excuse any and all behavior that brings them closer to whatever goal is at hand.
   And I also find that even the moderate leftists fall like dominoes right in line with them, fending off their own true feelings for the good of the cause. Finding ways to justify chicken shit behavior and refusing to call up their own common sense.
     Lie Cheat Steal 

Posted by: melvin at February 24, 2011 09:53 AM (3OCZw)

151

BTW, Barry is not competent enough to be a Hitler.  He's more a Mussolini, except for the trains-running-on-time part.

 

Wait til we get that High Speed Rail up and running, you stupid Clinger!


Posted by: Sheriff Joe at February 24, 2011 09:53 AM (ihSHD)

152

Grow a pair or buy a fucking dress

 

I indeed have a dress. Aad the task force I assembled has just forced the surrender of all Argentinian forces in the Falklands.

Posted by: P.M. Margeret Thatcher at February 24, 2011 09:53 AM (R2fpr)

153 128 The hate on this site is so evident. People just want to make a living wage. $60K plus retirement and insurance isn't near what the bankster crooks make.

We're talking about our children!

Posted by: Rainbow Phoenix at February 24, 2011 01:46 PM (BKOsZ)

--This has to be a sockpuppet, right?

Posted by: logprof at February 24, 2011 09:54 AM (RGp3s)

154

OT but interesting...

Had The View on and just listened to Congresswoman Jackie Speier (D-California) state that she had to have an abortion once because she "had a baby that moved from her vagina to her cervix".

What? What?

WTF could this scrunt possibly mean?

I hope to find a clip of this complete idiocy to share later.

Posted by: Who Knows at February 24, 2011 09:54 AM (rZgW4)

155

"We're talking about our children! "

 

Then quit sending the scum punk Union members out to slap women around. You people are the worst of the worst.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 24, 2011 09:54 AM (xMT+4)

156 The White Album was "unedited", that was its genius...  Raw, unfiltered... let the truth set you free...  Is that you Sharon?

Posted by: Chuck Manson at February 24, 2011 09:54 AM (T3vCe)

157

logprof,

 

Oh crap, probably. I hadn't even thought of that.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 24, 2011 09:55 AM (xMT+4)

158 117 There's a gratuitous Tabitha photo here along with the video.

I'd hit that like the fist of an angry God.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 24, 2011 09:55 AM (bxvFd)

159 Posted by: logprof at February 24, 2011 01:54 PM (RGp3s)

I completely missed that one.  Hrm.

I hope you're right.  That would be some epic troll-fail.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at February 24, 2011 09:55 AM (8y9MW)

160 Meanwhile there is some douchebag on fox that wants to make circumcision illegal...and yes he is from san fransico.

He isn't fooling me, he's talking about medical shit, but face it, he's gay and wants his dicks to look a certain way for all time. We really need a fucking asteroid.

Posted by: Berserker at February 24, 2011 09:55 AM (gWHrG)

161 Ace, the more I read you, the smarter you get. Ever thought about a run for president? You have at least one vote.

Posted by: Dennis at February 24, 2011 09:55 AM (5gyHz)

162 Stop the violins!


Posted by: Itzhak Perlman at February 24, 2011 09:55 AM (pW2o8)

163

--This has to be a sockpuppet, right?

 

I say yes!

Posted by: Sheriff Joe at February 24, 2011 09:55 AM (ihSHD)

164

--This has to be a sockpuppet, right?

'tis is.  Its MJ.  


Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 24, 2011 09:55 AM (9hSKh)

165 Quick Union Joke: A group of city union workers arrive at their work site promptly at 10am. Upon having the junior member of the team inspect the hole in the pavement they have to patch, they break for lunch. After coming back to the hole, they look at it a while longer, and decide they need shovels to fill it in. A search of the truck reveals no shovels. They are about to quit for the day, when the crew chief comes up with a a great idea. "Look guys, I know we don't have any shovels, but can you lean on each other until I get them?"

Posted by: MJ at February 24, 2011 09:56 AM (BKOsZ)

166 If Oliver Willis were a My Little Pony character, his name would be "Donut Sparkle."

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 24, 2011 09:56 AM (1zgwP)

167 Kicking the last few people in the Midwest who are not unemployed seems really stupid. I can't imagine that this will work for Republicans, but who knows? The whole tea party thing is based on, in large part, inter-knucklehead class contempt, in which the knuckleheads are at each other's throats because well, misery loves company. And if anyone knows misery, boy is it me ... and the chicken I keep locked in my closet.

Anyway, it might work!

Most of you stupid fuckers get your union bashing bullshit from mommy and daddy.

See how I telegraph my hatred of mommy and daddy and then make it your fault?

Anyhoo... you hate unions, the way I hate my mommy and daddy, even though it's demonstrably true that unions are the reason we have a fucking middle class in this country. BTW, you can tell that I'm a big thinker and badass revolutionary because I use the word fuck a lot.

And it's not by coincidence that the flat line in wages since 1973-- 35+ years of no gains for workers-- coincides with the decline of union membership.

Posted by: erg loughner at February 24, 2011 09:57 AM (LhS5j)

168

The hate on this site is so evident

Newsflash: It is possible to be filled with hate and still be correct that mob violence isn't a component of a representative democracy, much less an optimal one.

 

P.S. You're beautiful when I'm angry

Posted by: P.M. Margeret Thatcher at February 24, 2011 09:57 AM (R2fpr)

169 146 Posted by: MWR at February 24, 2011 01:46 PM (4df7R)

Please tell me you're an actual member of the Union.  It would be SO AWESOME for you to go in your purple shirt (or jacket, or whatever) take the mic, and call them all out for the idiots they are.

Of course, you'd probably want to bring a couple of other stout fellows along, IYKWIM.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at February 24, 2011 01:51 PM (8y9MW)

Oh, I am a member all right.  I joined so I could vote against the bastards every chance I get.  And in NH you have the option of telling the Union NOT to use your dues to pay for political causes.  You'd better believe I told them NO.  I used a REALLY THICK X in the checkbox so they couldn't screw it up.  I'd love to know how much of my money they use anyway, though.  I'm sure they do, union twits. 

I think they're going to be surprised at how few supporters will show up.  Between NH-ites being generally individualistic rather than "collective," and the forecast of really shitty weather tomorrow (snow, ice, freezing rain and sleet, hooray!), I think it'll be just them, all alone against the Big Bad 'Publicans.

I love it.  *hearts*

Posted by: MWR at February 24, 2011 09:57 AM (4df7R)

170

143 BTW, Barry is not competent enough to be a Hitler.  He's more a Mussolini, except for the trains-running-on-time part.

All things are possible once we get our high speed trains. Winning The Future

Posted by: Inspector Cleuseau at February 24, 2011 09:57 AM (Q5+Og)

171 As 1 is false on its face (check the videotape), I can only assume they mean 2, and can only assume then that "in context" they consider some lives to be less worthy of protection than others. That, given the choice between protecting people on the right from the infectious idea that violence is permissible by soundly rejecting it or accepting the benefits of some intimidation, thuggery, violence and even political murder, they choose the latter.

Considering how quickly Ezra Klein shut down Journ-O-list v1.0 after the Daily Caller published a few of the list's e-mails, it appears that not only does MSM commit sins of omission, they actively, even pro-actively, manufacture stories that inflict damage on their political enemies.

The MSM is fully engaged in  the politics of personal destruction, with the targets being those people who bitterly cling to their guns and their religion.

Posted by: mrp at February 24, 2011 09:58 AM (HjPtV)

172

157 OT but interesting...

Had The View on and just listened to Congresswoman Jackie Speier (D-California) state [...]

Here's the video of her speech on the House floor.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 24, 2011 09:58 AM (iMgAa)

173 I laid it on a bit thick today. Sorry about that. Kratos: +1000 Nobel Prizes.

Posted by: MJ at February 24, 2011 09:58 AM (BKOsZ)

174 yeah, they hate us. And yeah, they only see us through the eyes of their prejudices of who they think conservatives are. That doesn't matter. There's 30-40 percent of the population that suffers from the liberal pathology. We need to reach the shifting, rational 10% who can be swayed in either direction.

Posted by: joeindc44 at February 24, 2011 09:58 AM (QxSug)

175 a month ago when the Left and the media were framing us for the assassination attempt on Giffords, they wanted us to end our 'violent rhetoric' and pleaded for a 'civil discourse.' (Which the Republicans swallowed up, btw. Hence, the sitting together at the STFU address) Today it is: "Politics get nasty, sometimes."

Posted by: Soothsayer at February 24, 2011 09:58 AM (uFokq)

176 Posted by: Berserker at February 24, 2011 01:55 PM (gWHrG)

And I just bet that the anchor (I'm not sure who that would be) didn't look at the guy and just say, "Seriously?" then turn to the camera with, "I'm sorry ladies and gentlemen; I was under the impression that my guest had a cogent point, but apparently he does not.  Up next, we'll be taking a look at..."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at February 24, 2011 09:58 AM (8y9MW)

177 162 Posted by: logprof at February 24, 2011 01:54 PM (RGp3s)

I completely missed that one.  Hrm.

I hope you're right.  That would be some epic troll-fail.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at February 24, 2011 01:55 PM (8y9MW)

'tis is.  Its MJ.  

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 24, 2011 01:55 PM (9hSKh)

--That\s a relief.  If we're gonna waste tax dollars funding trollery, at least it could not suck so badly.

BTW, where's "Randall"?

Posted by: logprof at February 24, 2011 09:59 AM (IGeTJ)

178

Meanwhile there is some douchebag on fox that wants to make circumcision illegal...and yes he is from san fransico.

 


But I bet this same asshat is pro-female "circumcision"--so that we might fully embrace the rituals of other cultures and be sensitive, supportive members of a global community.


Posted by: Sheriff Joe at February 24, 2011 09:59 AM (ihSHD)

179  It's hypocritical too, coming from people like geoff, a co-blogger here, who spent a chunk of his career working for the government. Or among many of you here who have sucked the almighty military cock for your livelihoods.

Posted by: some murdered nuns in el salvador at February 24, 2011 10:00 AM (LhS5j)

180
I'd hit that like the fist of an angry God.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge

 

One of my all time favorite comments was from some soul of wit who declared that "he would hit that so fast, hard and deep that whomsoever draweth him forth shall be rightful King of England".

 

And yes, EoJs' pez comment deserves to dwell beside that.

Posted by: Blue Hen at February 24, 2011 10:00 AM (R2fpr)

181 170 Kicking the last few people in the Midwest who are not unemployed seems really stupid. I can't imagine that this will work for Republicans, but who knows? The whole tea party thing is based on, in large part, inter-knucklehead class contempt, in which the knuckleheads are at each other's throats because well, misery loves company. It might work!

Posted by: some murdered nuns in el salvador at February 24, 2011 01:57 PM (LhS5j)

Honey Badger don't give a shit.

Posted by: some poor scabs murdered by union thugs at February 24, 2011 10:00 AM (bxiXv)

182 And it's not by coincidence that the flat line in wages since 1973-- 35+ years of no gains for workers-- coincides with the decline of union membership. -------------- My god. How many times do I have to say this, you stupid fucking idiot: Correlation and causation are two very different things. As the size of Al Gores pants have gone up, unemployment has gone up. We must starve Al Gore! Fucking leftard!

Posted by: MJ at February 24, 2011 10:00 AM (BKOsZ)

183 Posted by: some murdered nuns in el salvador at February 24, 2011 01:57 PM (LhS5j)

Oh, look, ergie woke up.  Erg, please remember, today is the day for your monthly shower.  And don't forget to delouse.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at February 24, 2011 10:01 AM (8y9MW)

184 Does it really matter what they do? We have a limp dicked GOP that can't get past a $60B cut in the budget. It's Game Over. Fuck it.

Posted by: Barbarian at February 24, 2011 10:01 AM (EL+OC)

185 67% Disapprove of Legislators Fleeing Wisconsin to Avoid Vote

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that only 25% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of this tactic, while 67% disapprove

---

That's a mighty fine strategy by the Dems. 

Posted by: Y-not at February 24, 2011 10:02 AM (pW2o8)

186

BTW, where's "Randall"?

Posted by: logprof at February 24, 2011 01:59 PM (IGeTJ)

I think he's cooling off after a shoving match with a little girl.

He lost this one.

Posted by: some poor scabs murdered by union thugs at February 24, 2011 10:03 AM (bxiXv)

187 Empire of Jeff, I'm still laughing over your "Pez Dispenser" comment yesterday!

Can someone please link this?  Which post?

I'm a fan of this guy.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at February 24, 2011 10:03 AM (IVQSY)

188 And it's not by coincidence that the flat line in wages since 1973-- 35+ years of no gains for workers-- coincides with the decline of union membership.

Posted by: some murdered nuns in el salvador

 

Someone dig up one of the nuns and have them tell Wiley E. Coyote that it might also coincide with not one but two oil shortages.

Posted by: Blue Hen at February 24, 2011 10:03 AM (R2fpr)

189 Posted by: Y-not at February 24, 2011 02:02 PM (pW2o

We'll, that's only 2/3's.  We don't want to alienate or silence the rest.  They have a right to be heard, too!

Posted by: Mitch Daniels at February 24, 2011 10:04 AM (8y9MW)

190 My god. How many times do I have to say this, you stupid fucking idiot: Correlation and causation are two very different things.

I'd like to see the numbers backing up flat-lining for PUBLIC SECTOR union employees.  I simply do not believe it based on what we've seen reported on their compensation packages. 

Most of the moronic Lefties who are commenting on this matter are conflating public and private sector unions. 

Posted by: Y-not at February 24, 2011 10:04 AM (pW2o8)

191

Madison-- After more than 48 hours of debate on the budget repair bill, the state Assembly is breaking for lawmakers to go into one more set of partisan meetings.

 

Oh, and the Madison police chief holds to the idea that the union thugs are peaceful individuals.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 24, 2011 10:05 AM (iMgAa)

192 182 It's hypocritical too, coming from people like geoff, a co-blogger here, who spent a chunk of his career working for the government. Or among many of you here who have sucked the almighty military cock for your livelihoods.

Posted by: some murdered nuns in el salvador at February 24, 2011 02:00 PM (LhS5j)

Ooooh, a vulgar homophobic insult from a tolerant lefty.

Honey Badger still don't give a shit.

Posted by: some poor scabs murdered by union thugs at February 24, 2011 10:05 AM (bxiXv)

193 Plains, trains, or automobiles . . . better have mu dough-nutttsssssss

Posted by: Oliver Willis channeling Delonte West at February 24, 2011 10:05 AM (RGp3s)

194 There's a gratuitous Tabitha photo here along with the video.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 24, 2011 01:43 PM (7H/n0)

Quiet the looker. I'd be so deep in that when I withdrew you'd hear Liam Neeson say 'Release the Kraken!"

Posted by: Holger at February 24, 2011 10:05 AM (YxGud)

195

You're fast Miss 80's and thanks for putting that up.

Couldn't believe my ears, hearing a grown woman say that she had a baby that "moved from my vagina to my cervix".

She is a democrat from CA, so yes, it IS possible that she is that stupid.

Posted by: Who Knows at February 24, 2011 10:05 AM (rZgW4)

196 Or among many of you here who have sucked the almighty military cock for your livelihoods.

Posted by: some murdered nuns in el salvador at February 24, 2011 02:00 PM (LhS5j)

You got me there, I joined the Marines in 1970, slept in the jungle and got shot at all for that sweet $300 a month which included combat pay, overseas pay and soldiers savings. Damn that was a good paying gig.

Posted by: robtr at February 24, 2011 10:06 AM (hVDig)

197 Posted by: Mitch Daniels at February 24, 2011 02:04 PM

Is it too much to hope for one more "clarification" from the good governor in which he explains that by "salute" he meant "give the raspberry"? 



Yeah, it is. 

Posted by: Y-not at February 24, 2011 10:06 AM (pW2o8)

198 And it's not by coincidence that the flat line in wages since 1973-- 35+ years of no gains for workers-- coincides with the decline of union membership.

Or unchecked illegal immigration holding down the price of unskilled labor, and therefore labor upstream.  You can thank your Union for being the multiculti Left's bareback bitch on that score.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at February 24, 2011 10:06 AM (IVQSY)

199

Oh, and the Madison police chief holds to the idea that the union thugs are peaceful individuals.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 24, 2011 02:05 PM (iMgAa)


Of course he does, he's a union goon too. Don't forget the tit sucking FD as well.


Posted by: Barbarian at February 24, 2011 10:06 AM (EL+OC)

200 Hey , murdered nun, haven't seen you in a while. You gonna tell us all about 'punching down' again? That shit was hilarious.

Posted by: Navin R Johnson at February 24, 2011 10:06 AM (HpT9p)

201 Most of the moronic Lefties who are commenting on this matter are conflating public and private sector unions.

Posted by: Y-not at February 24, 2011 02:04 PM (pW2o

Name two dissimilar things the left don't conflate.

Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 24, 2011 10:06 AM (bxiXv)

202 Erg is just upset that we're picking on his parole officer. 

Posted by: Y-not at February 24, 2011 10:07 AM (pW2o8)

203 Posted by: Journolist at February 24, 2011 01:32 PM (iHfo1)

the same can be said for big business and the lobbyists, many of whom the prez is seeing on the down lo outside of the white house so they don't have to report the meetings (posted the link in the headline thread earlier today)

The problem is it's not choose one or the other, the unions or big business and the lobbyists, it's "hey guys listen to us, the American people"

Posted by: curious at February 24, 2011 10:08 AM (p302b)

204 ergie, you're not putting up a spirited enough defense of your barbaric thug union brothers.

Don't let them (and us) down!

Posted by: logprof at February 24, 2011 10:08 AM (RGp3s)

205 All in favor of one more dead nun in El Salvador troll? Aye!

Posted by: SurferDoc at February 24, 2011 10:09 AM (o3bYL)

206 157

OT but interesting...

Had The View on and just listened to Congresswoman Jackie Speier (D-California) state that she had to have an abortion once because she "had a baby that moved from her vagina to her cervix".

[...]

Posted by: Who Knows at February 24, 2011 01:54 PM (rZgW4)

Wait.  The kid moved backwards? 

Posted by: soulpile is... expendable at February 24, 2011 10:10 AM (gH+Hj)

207 Note that this didn't happen in Texas.


Damn straight.

Posted by: mpurinTexas(kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at February 24, 2011 10:10 AM (jxuSt)

208 Most of the moronic Lefties who are commenting on this matter are conflating public and private sector unions. ------------------ To separate the two would require the ability to think past an X and a Y. Not gonna happen.

Posted by: MJ at February 24, 2011 10:11 AM (BKOsZ)

209 To separate the two would require the ability to think past an X and a Y.

fify

Posted by: Y-not at February 24, 2011 10:12 AM (pW2o8)

210 "What "context" does the media have in mind when it tanks this story?"

Proliferation of a purist philosophy, especially progressive-liberalism requires adherence to self-censorship which they ultimately dismiss as truisms.
But it sophistic, ignorant and dishonest when those truisms dilute, defeat and ultimately destroy the tenets of believers philosophy.

Frankly, I wouldn't mind it too much if they simply revealed themselves as acolytes of a particular political-philosophical viewpoint. Most of us as figured that out, as evidenced by the general decline and distrust of mainstream journalism. But irrespective, they continue to masquerade as some type of neutral arbiter or oracle of righteous truths and preordained human outcomes. That is not just intellectually irritating, it will eventually be self-defeating.

Conscientia mille teste

Posted by: Marcus at February 24, 2011 10:13 AM (CHrmZ)

211 **It makes me think that my teachers lied to me about all that union-busting pinkerton bullshit they talked about going on last century.** You remember how the pinkertons were tormenting the struggling public school teachers in the late 1800's! Anyway, yeah, these union thugs are cleaning the name of the pinkertons.

Posted by: joeindc44 at February 24, 2011 10:14 AM (QxSug)

212 Ergy brings his sweet sweet tears.  The circle of life is complete.

Posted by: toby928™ at February 24, 2011 10:14 AM (GTbGH)

213 Of course it was manufactured.

That woman was asking for it. Imagine, some wingnut thinks she can have opinions in public, or try to film our brave brownshirts without retribution.

Posted by: Mike Capuguano at February 24, 2011 10:14 AM (atS82)

214  its Wack-A-Troll game
Trolls on parade

Posted by: melvin at February 24, 2011 10:14 AM (3OCZw)

215 199 Or among many of you here who have sucked the almighty military cock for your livelihoods.

Posted by: some murdered nuns in el salvador at February 24, 2011 02:00 PM (LhS5j)

 

How come all those sucking the almighty military cock were always, and I mean always, employed unfucking some socialist hell hole? I mean if collectivism could work, would'nt Hitler have pulled it off? Why do dems always get us into so many wars against people just like themselves?

Posted by: Inspector Cleuseau at February 24, 2011 10:14 AM (Q5+Og)

216 WSJ piece about public sector compensation.  Actual analysis appears to bear out what I suspected. 

Posted by: Y-not at February 24, 2011 10:15 AM (pW2o8)

217 I do a lazy backstroke in the sea of union thug hate and daydream about the efficiency of long range scopes.

Posted by: SurferDoc at February 24, 2011 10:16 AM (o3bYL)

218
Conscientia mille teste

Posted by: Marcus at February 24, 2011 02:13 PM (CHrmZ)

Conscience is as good as a thousand witnesses


oo I love it when you speak latin!


Posted by: morticia at February 24, 2011 10:16 AM (p302b)

219 Empire of Jeff:

What was your comment about the Pez Dispenser?

Here is my favorite E-o-J related post.

Posted by: momma at February 24, 2011 10:17 AM (penCf)

220 and yeah, most lefties are wimps and their union thugs are old, fat slobs. But violence is their tool and I wouldn't laugh about it. There are unavenged deaths out there simply because the leftwing media hides their stories. They'll cry all day over Mattew Shepard but Christian/Newsom murders will never really be heard. So, if a union thugs beats your brains out, firebombs your house, or hits your wife, it never happened.

Posted by: joeindc44 at February 24, 2011 10:17 AM (QxSug)

221 fify ------- Nice.

Posted by: MJ at February 24, 2011 10:17 AM (BKOsZ)

222 There is an antisemetic, antiIsrael mini series currently being aired on Brit TV called The Promise. The chattering classes have declared it BRILLIANT! while it has made my teeth fall out in disgust. You can down load it off the internet. So far 3 of 4 episodes have aired. Fucking unbelievable. Goebbels would be proud.

Posted by: Moi at February 24, 2011 10:17 AM (Ez4Ql)

223

"Or unchecked illegal immigration holding down the price of unskilled labor, and therefore labor upstream.  You can thank your Union for being the multiculti Left's bareback bitch on that score. "

 

Bravo!

Posted by: Inspector Cleuseau at February 24, 2011 10:18 AM (Q5+Og)

224

Regarding <<We don't have to patrol the left for violence because we have such moral certitude about the goodness of our ends that we are justified in using otherwise-immoral means, such as violence, to attain them.>.>

Sounds like the left are paraphrasing Nixon's statement to Frost: "I'm saying that when the President does it, that means it's not illegal."

Guess that Nixon guy way ahead of his time.

Posted by: mbh at February 24, 2011 10:18 AM (dPXiH)

225 The WSJ piece points out that private sector employees face about a 20% chance of being let go in any given year. 

I wonder if that's based on current numbers or is more historical. 

Posted by: Y-not at February 24, 2011 10:18 AM (pW2o8)

226 Obama has cruised right past Nixon.  He's really headed to Pol-Pot territory. 

Mmmm, mmmm, mmmm!

Posted by: Y-not at February 24, 2011 10:19 AM (pW2o8)

227 Posted by: joeindc44 at February 24, 2011 02:17 PM (QxSug)

I watched a good part of the video I posted of the guy making the gay slurs at the camera man and I was struck by how fat they were in the majority.  Yeah there was your occasional skinny one but, for the most part, "fat and happy" seems the norm.  Whereas in the private sector people seem to care about their appearance and their health.  A lot of companies provide a gym for their employees and the employees actually use it and don't just tout it as a perk.

Posted by: curious at February 24, 2011 10:19 AM (p302b)

228

Empire of Jeff, I'm still laughing over your "Pez Dispenser" comment yesterday!

Can someone please link this?  Which post?

I'm a fan of this guy.

Here you go, it was a brilliant riposte in response to this idiot troll's following statement:

 

Honestly. What the hell do any of you care about gays getting married? None of you know any gays. Gays don't belong to your bridge club, you're never going to invite one over for a barbecue. A gay couple on the other side of town could get married, you would never know it. It wouldn't affect your life  in the slightest.

Yet here you are defending your DOMA, using the government to invade the private lives of people you don't know and don't live anywhere near bumblefuck Alabama.

You're bigots. Don't argue, don't bother with your disgusting retorts. You're bigots. Intolerant, hateful, xenophobic bigots. Using bigotry to get other bigots excited.  That's your defense of marriage act. Rally bell for bigots at election time.

The world is changing and you bigots WILL be bred out of existence.  History will remember you bigots like it remembers all the others - sadly.

oh - And churches will never be forced to marry anybody - so just stop with that nonsense. Its utter nonsense - But when you listen to people like Glen Beck I guess you can believe anything.

Empire of Jeff's Top 10 AoS All time comments:

Better get busy out-breeding me, Jimmy-Joe.

Because while you've been occupied getting your shit pushed in, I've been punching out a new Master Race like an angry, white, dick-flavored Pez dispenser from your worst Republican nightmare.

Posted by: runningrn at February 24, 2011 10:20 AM (ihSHD)

229 Posted by: momma at February 24, 2011 02:17 PM (penCf)

Holy crap, that is comedy gold.

Posted by: Holger at February 24, 2011 10:20 AM (YxGud)

230 198 You're fast Miss 80's and thanks for putting that up.

Couldn't believe my ears, hearing a grown woman say that she had a baby that "moved from my vagina to my cervix".

She is a democrat from CA, so yes, it IS possible that she is that stupid.

 

The audio for the clip doesn't quite do it justice. She was playing the "I'm angry so don't question me" card, and there was a certain amount of silence as she proceeded. I guess the doctors on our side decided to just drop the issue (they were almost out of time anyway, IIRC).

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 24, 2011 10:21 AM (iMgAa)

231 All in favor of one more dead nun in El Salvador troll? Aye!

Posted by: SurferDoc

 

Wait one. He's not already brain dead?

Posted by: Blue Hen at February 24, 2011 10:21 AM (R2fpr)

232 Hey, if I had to pretend to work, couldn't compete in the real world, and was so fat I had to jerk off because women find me disgusting, I'd be angry too.

Posted by: SurferDoc at February 24, 2011 10:21 AM (o3bYL)

233 @231
Classic! 

We need a photoshop!

Posted by: Y-not at February 24, 2011 10:22 AM (pW2o8)

234 The old and fat comment was in reply to some person's earlier comment. You know, there's these dismissive comments all the time "conservatives have guns, so let 'em come." The left scares me, they have no compunction.

Posted by: joeindc44 at February 24, 2011 10:22 AM (QxSug)

235 I watched a good part of the video I posted of the guy making the gay slurs at the camera man and I was struck by how fat they were in the majority.  Yeah there was your occasional skinny one but, for the most part, "fat and happy" seems the norm.  Whereas in the private sector people seem to care about their appearance and their health.  A lot of companies provide a gym for their employees and the employees actually use it and don't just tout it as a perk.

Posted by: curious at February 24, 2011 02:19 PM (p302b)

Wouldn't you say they're "fat and pissy?"  Can't say I've ever met a happy public employee.

Posted by: soulpile is... expendable at February 24, 2011 10:22 AM (gH+Hj)

236

Erg is here. erg, you better pray you don't run into my mean ass in person. The thimble full of compassion and mercy I have is reserved for women and kids. You are just another piece of dog shit in the yard.

Posted by: maddogg at February 24, 2011 10:24 AM (OlN4e)

237 219 WSJ piece about public sector compensation.  Actual analysis appears to bear out what I suspected. 

Posted by: Y-not at February 24, 2011 02:15 PM (pW2o

The Public Worker Employee Gravy Train
FIFWSJ

Posted by: logprof at February 24, 2011 10:24 AM (RGp3s)

238 I have never understood why the Pubbies don't start talking about equality before the law when speaking of unions. Why is it they are privledge and all others are not? What is so special about labor under a union labor?

Posted by: Inspector Cleuseau at February 24, 2011 10:24 AM (Q5+Og)

239 They accused the planned parenthood sting of being edited...even though, along with the edited tape, they made the unedited one available.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 24, 2011 10:25 AM (BvBKY)

240 What is so special about labor under a union labor? -------------- They give money from the tax payer to their bosses.

Posted by: MJ at February 24, 2011 10:26 AM (BKOsZ)

241 Beck was really touting his show today.  It doesn't take a rhodes scholar to connect all the dots lately so he is saying we are going to be shocked today by how it plays out.  I hope he's right, a lot of times when he hype's the show he appears to fizzle out and let the audience down.

Posted by: curious at February 24, 2011 10:26 AM (p302b)

242

Closed shop unionism is involuntary servitude.

Why do Democrats condone slavery?

Posted by: AmishDude at February 24, 2011 10:28 AM (BvBKY)

243 Why do Democrats condone slavery?

????

Posted by: Jefferson Davis at February 24, 2011 10:28 AM (GTbGH)

244 Rush just mentioned this

Posted by: curious at February 24, 2011 10:29 AM (p302b)

245 247 Rush just mentioned this

OMG, Ray Cism~!  The Man is just persecuting Malcolm's daughter for what EVERY American does!


Posted by: The CBC at February 24, 2011 10:31 AM (bxvFd)

246 Apropos of nothing, I have for some time humored myself that clear firelanes and 6 lb of finger strength were enough to deal with the coming troubles, but these recent events have forced me to reconsider and make the attempt to return to fighting trim.  Because sometimes, it does become a knife fight at the end of a long march.

So I guess I should thank Barry for the 20 lbs I lost so far.

Posted by: toby928™ at February 24, 2011 10:34 AM (GTbGH)

247 So the bill is likely going to pass. What happens next? Will there will a combined strike?

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 24, 2011 10:37 AM (iMgAa)

248 182  It's hypocritical too, coming from people like geoff, a co-blogger here, who spent a chunk of his career working for the government. Or among many of you here who have sucked the almighty military cock for your livelihoods.

Posted by: some murdered nuns in el salvador at February 24, 2011 02:00 PM (LhS5j)

Honey badger don't give a shit

Posted by: Museisluse at February 24, 2011 10:41 AM (u/Nbu)

249 The liberal news media has the tendency to place junk journalism as important stuff  they prefer to hide the real news with idiotic nonsense like worrying about fish or blabbering stupid praises for obama

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at February 24, 2011 10:42 AM (vA9ld)

250 Hey like this is our Alamo or Custer's last stand even ! 

Posted by: some teachers union douche bag shop stewart at February 24, 2011 10:43 AM (3OCZw)

251

So Bammy's salute to Mo-Town includes Jonas Bros. and Sheryl Crow? Yeah, I remember them opening for Smokey and The Temps at the Apollo back in '68.

What a douche.

Posted by: bigred HO HO HEY HEY HOW MANY JOBS BARACK KILL TODAY? at February 24, 2011 10:49 AM (cX9pO)

252 ""Empire of Jeff, I'm still laughing over your "Pez Dispenser" comment yesterday!""


Me too, that was hysterical.

Posted by: Berserker at February 24, 2011 10:52 AM (gWHrG)

253 Posted by: some teachers union douche bag shop stewart at February 24, 2011 02:43 PM (3OCZw)

Nope.  It's your Charge of the Light Brigade.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at February 24, 2011 10:53 AM (8y9MW)

254 Your Honor, as you can plainly tell in the recording posed as "evidence," the volume from the defendant was boosted and a filter to diminish extraneous static noise was applied. Sure, you can hear my client's confession of murder better, but the tape was clearly edited. The prosecution even admitted it! Edited!

I submit to you that this fact constitutes tampering of the evidence, misleads the court, and demand a judgment of "not guilty"!

Posted by: Lefty McMedia, J.D. at February 24, 2011 10:56 AM (swuwV)

255 Posted by: runningrn at February 24, 2011 02:20 PM (ihSHD)


Thank you.

Posted by: momma at February 24, 2011 10:57 AM (penCf)

256 there's edited for content or edited for space limitations. This reminds me of teh Limbaugh phony soldiers smear campaign. Remember, Rush was listening to a caller who mentioned the soldiers pretending to be combat vets, Rush said, "the phony soldiers". This got morphed into Harry Reid saying that Rush was "in the middle of another long winded diatribe that I can't even bother to relate..." The left always lies about what conservatives say. That's why the #1 rule of the liberal pathology is projection. They put their sins onto us.

Posted by: joeindc44 at February 24, 2011 11:03 AM (QxSug)

257

This kind of thing is going to get a lot worse between now and 2012. You can hear the beast huffing and puffing and flexing its muscles. It hasn't really gotten started in earnest yet.

Look at these 'activist' dickheads in the streets now and how normal social constraints mean nothing to them. Bad shit coming. Not random lunacy like Loughner. No, something fundamentally different - the inevitable result of an organized and coordinated effort, that by its nature clearly gives permission for big strong men to threaten and strike small defenseless women, or for many to attack one.

I don't believe that what's to come is going to be very amenable to this kind of media obfuscation. The media/apologists will gamely try, but will fail to spin what is unspinnable.

I hope nobody gets killed or disfigured.

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at February 24, 2011 11:03 AM (w41GQ)

258 In another way, who cares what these violent union thugs do? There's no need to counter demonstrate. They are losing. Just remember, we kicked ass in nov. 2010. There is no amount of Walker=hitler signs out there that can change that. So, yeah, the professional rabble class is having its dying spasm swan song, they'll still lose.

Posted by: joeindc44 at February 24, 2011 11:06 AM (QxSug)

259 Fucking gloves are off. Some piece of shit union thug lays hands on me, he gets a face full of Kimber. He presses the matter, he gets double tapped.

These people are violent, they think they're immune to the common mores of society, and they're showing again and again a willingness to escalate their violence.

Gloves. Are. Off. I will defend myself.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Confuse A Cat, Ltd at February 24, 2011 11:13 AM (eCAn3)

260 Capuano says he wants it to 'get bloody'. Does he really know what he's saying here, or where this might lead? No doubt he's imagining street battles of the early 20th Century, where brave union heroes faced off against strikebreakers, thugs hired by the Company and brought in from the outside to break heads and legs with axe handles and the like. That's the impression he's trying to convey, the perception he very badly wants to create, but he and his union pals are getting worried. Instead, what we are seeing are spoiled, well-paid government workers throwing a tantrum, and the Company is us, taxpayers footing an unreasonable bill. So what Capuano and his union pals badly need right now is a martyr, ideally a dead or seriously hurt schoolteacher with an impeccable personal life. They think if they heat things up, they'll create the conditions where violence will escalate and death or serious injury to one of their own will become inevitable. Imagine the PR value. I think we who oppose them should go Gandhi on their asses and assume a nonviolent posture no matter what the provocation. Don't give them the street battle they so desperately crave. Give them no brave union heroes and certainly no brave union martyrs. Show them up for what they are.

Posted by: troyriser at February 24, 2011 11:44 AM (mU1zA)

261 Wait...backup... Oliver Willis is still alive?

Posted by: Iblis at February 24, 2011 11:48 AM (9221z)

262

"Fucking gloves are off. Some piece of shit union thug lays hands on me, he gets a face full of Kimber. He presses the matter, he gets double tapped.

These people are violent, they think they're immune to the common mores of society, and they're showing again and again a willingness to escalate their violence.

Gloves. Are. Off. I will defend myself."

Just read a book called Freedom, Lessons From the Open Road by Sonny Barger (former Oakland Chapter Hells Angels Pres.)  His code is: "Treat me good, I'll treat you better. Treat me bad, I'll treat you worse."

Paraphrasing a bit here, but he also went on to note that he was a reasonable guy, but screw with him or try to rip him off, you'll end up dealing with broken bones and drinking salt water.

Not bad words to live by.


 

Posted by: RM at February 24, 2011 11:54 AM (GkYyh)

263 I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.

Posted by: John Bernard Books at February 24, 2011 11:59 AM (M9Ie6)

264 BRAVO!

Posted by: Olliander at February 24, 2011 12:30 PM (6uiF7)

265 Fillet O'Fish is still around?

Posted by: Mikey NTH at February 24, 2011 12:34 PM (O9Cc8)

266 Fillet O'Fish is still around?

Not within a 60 mile radius of Willis.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at February 24, 2011 12:45 PM (IVQSY)

267

Thanks Ace for pointing out how violence against conservatives is perfectly okay, but if there is even a hint of threat to anyone on the left, look out.  The MSM will go nuts and Shep Smith might even Here is an email I just got from Bob Fertik, Democrats.com activist@democrats.com Where to begin?  It is so insane on its face I just have to say here it is: 


Dear [that is how the email came, they did not even bother to slip in a "Sir"],
 This Saturday we're drawing a line in the sand. The entire progressive movement is putting everything we have into one massive display of progressive solidarity nationwide.
We won't let Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker - or any other billionaire-bought TeaParty Governor - break the unions. Unions created America's middle class and if they disappear we'll all end up as corporate slaves.
The entire progressive movement - Netroots, unions, environmentalists, and community groups - will hold solidarity rallies in major cities, including every state capital, this Saturday around noon.
We'll demand an end to the attacks on workers' rights and public services across the country. We'll demand investment to create jobs. And we'll demand that the rich and powerful pay their fair share of taxes.

Will you join us Saturday at noon? Sign up to join your local rally here.
Here in New York City, our new Job Party has already held two solidarity rallies, proudly wearing Wisconsin Cheeseheads and winning smiles and cheers from fellow New Yorkers.
 Last Friday, 100 of us held a spirited rally in front of CNN, NBC, and FOX. On Tuesday we grew to 500 at FOX during Glenn Beck's show, and prominent New York unions and politicians joined us.
While Glenn Beck raged helplessly inside his studio, Ed Schultz happily crossed the street to interview us. We also appeared on Jon Stewart and Bill O'Reilly. Watch our videos.
And with unions, students, and progressives in the Midwest leading the way, we're turning the tide. When an Indiana official urged use of "live ammunition" against unions, he was immediately fired. Then Indiana Republicans dropped their anti-union "right-to-work" bill like a hot potato. Republican Governors in Michigan, New Jersey, and Florida are running as fast as they can from union-busting.
But a few hard-line Republicans are holding out, especially Wisconsin's Scott Walker and Ohio's John Kasich. And several Republican presidential candidates are supporting them, promising to bust unions nationwide if they win in 2012.
So we need to hit the streets to send a message that's loud and crystal-clear: the American people support our unions, and we want jobs!

Posted by: Joe at February 24, 2011 01:41 PM (IgakF)

268 Ace, great post, thanks. 

Posted by: PHenry at February 24, 2011 03:27 PM (oOXkS)

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