1 First?

2 And feel free to suggest any links you think should be added to the post.

3 Prayers for the victims and their families.

4 And what is Black Jesus douing today? Golfing? I'll be surprised if the bitch even mentions it.

5 I'll be surprised if the bitch even mentions it.

Were any of the victims black?  Then he would, because the tornadoes would be racist.

6 Hearing reports of 8 dead in Virginia overnight.

7

Since these stroms hit "red" states -we can assume Obama will play another round of golf and ignore requests for a National Emergency.

 

8 4 EoJ,

oh he can't be bothered, but Mocha Je$u$' fans will....

"this proves global warming is real fellas, I'm serial dammit!"

//Goreons

9 Some of the video is very brave. I'd have crapped my pants.

10 I think the devastation from the weather is on the order of a 100 year event statistically (infrequent but extreme), but I can guarantee that it will be treated as yet another reason for us to live in caves in the dark to stave off global cooling, warming, climate change.
I have ridden out one tornado and several hurricanes and am in awe of Mother Nature's power--it is flat out scary and humbling. 
I do pray for all those who have suffered the loss of loved ones and are faced with rebuilding their lives.

11 /ot

http://tinyurl.com/3l2hfks

Time for another episode of "name that party."

12

Since these storms hit "red" states -we can assume Obama will play another round of golf and ignore requests for a National Emergency.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 28, 2011 08:42 AM (0fzsA)

You beat me to it.  This is flyover country and will probably be low on the list of things to do today (1. Produce "original" copy of BC, 2. Visit Oprah, 3. Attend fundraiser, 4. Get good tee time. ...)

13 10 Hrothgar,

Well some of YOU will live in caves, others like myself and my Horrywood friends will sacrifice big and live in mansions powered by windmills we make you plebes blow on.....

14 12.  Forgot 5. Ensure transcripts and academic records are still under National Security approved safes.

15 Posted by: Albert Al Algore Gore II Emperor of the Blowing Wind at April 28, 2011 08:47 AM (kq1lG)

Yes some of us are too big to jail!

16 http://tinyurl.com/3ruuuxz

There we go...


Thanks Goreons you didn't let me down....

"yeah this tornado as a single evenet was not caused by global warming but we have so changed the world that the planet and weather that civilization evolved in is now radically different"....


you can set your watch to their bullcrap.

17 wow, that's awful
thoughts and prayers to everyone in the storm zone

18 Morning, all.

Tornado watch just issued for Savannah until 4:00 p.m.

19 And just speculating on what comes next, having expended the national credit rating on the political equivalent of Hookers'n'Blow, we're just about in Japan's position when it comes to relief and rebuilding. Some large portion of $.9Trillion might have done a lot of good, compared to crushing old cars and repaving bike paths. I don't think it's the 24-hour news "cycle" anymore putting us in a permanent state of crisis. 

Then again, it's 'only' the South, and they've been boned before.

20 Now comes the assholes blaming it on global warming or some stupid shit.

21 My husband spent the night in N. Georgia with his parents and aunt in his parents' basement.  Said it was pretty nerve-wracking. 

Spoke with him a moment ago, and one of his client's said his little hometown in N. AL was wiped off the map.

I just can't wrap my mind around the death and devastation.

And JEF can......I'd better not say.

22 Posted by: sven10077 at April 28, 2011 08:50 AM (kq1lG)
Too some extent there is a grain of truth in that statement.  Large cities have extensive infrastructure that has built over been decades (in some cases centuries) and now have population densities that are simple unsustainable without the infrastructure.  When was the last time a simple majority of the population was able to go out to the chicken coop and gather their fresh eggs for breakfast. 
Basically, modern civilization recovery is subject to teh vagaries of Integrative Complexity.

23 Devastating. It's really unbelievable. Prayers to all.

24

Man, it looks like 'Tornado Alley' has turned into 'Tornado Main Street'.

Those poor people in Alabama...

25 A three story hotel outside Rome, GA collapsed.

The death toll so far is approaching 200. 

26

After the earthquake and the tsunami, the Japanese were despondent.  Then they realized that things could be worse, Obama could be president of Japan.  Their mood improved immediately.

27

This may rival the Super Outbreak of 1974, the largest single outbreak of tornadic events in a 24 period, which killed over 300.  148 storms in 13 states.

 

 

 

 

28 Hey! Over here! Look at us! HURRICANE KATRINA!!!

29

Sorry about previous comment, I thought I was posting on the open thread. 

These tornados are horrific.  Such a devastating tragedy.  My thoughts are with all of the people affected.

30 25 A three story hotel outside Rome, GA collapsed.

The death toll so far is approaching 200.

And still, silence from the White House.  That is until this storm system is blamed on global warming or some other nonsense.

Prayers and thoughts to all those adversely affected. 

31 Jeebus.  The tornado watch alert keeps going off on the TV.  I'm freaking out a little.

32 Hey guys/gals. Any recommendations for a nice weather radio?

33 The pictures on TV are surreal, it looks like a war zone. Take care all who are the path of these storms.

34 I guess Barky is still eating his waffle.  Any words of concern he does offer (if ever) will be empty.

It's eerily quiet here.  Not a breath of air stirring.  The sky is greenish.  Tornado siren is just up the street.  If it goes off, I'm heading for my husband's closet, which has no exterior walls.  Hope it's enough.

35

We're going to get 50-60 mph winds here in W PA, so I imagine it will be windy down south again.

 

Question for your southerners, are basements common in the south?

36 Question for your southerners, are basements common in the south?

In hilly places, yeah.  Not so much where the ground is flat and in areas subject to flooding.  My in-law's retirement home has a full walk-out basement.

37

Sad news. These folks will put things back together without Fedzilla. Just like they did after Katrina. Hope Obama's campaign fundraiser went well last night. Any news on his Okra interview?

38

36 Question for your southerners, are basements common in the south?

 

Never understood why basements are so rare in prarie country.

39

Question for your southerners, are basements common in the south?

In hilly places, yeah.  Not so much where the ground is flat and in areas subject to flooding.  My in-law's retirement home has a full walk-out basement.

okay. I was wondering if people had a place to hide in their home from tornados. I guess not everyone did.

In my area everyone has a basement, but I am aware that that isn't the norm in most states, for  example I am under the impression most people in Florida do not have them and i figured that might be true in other parts of the south.

40

Dave in Texas...thanks for the link of the 1974 tornadoes. Hopefully that will be read by some global warmers. Tornadoes are rough every spring, but this was a monster of a storm. I remember them now in '74.

Yesterday afternoon I was on the phone with mother (MS) as a tornoado touched down a mile from her home. Then, to top off the day, on phone for three hours late into the night with son in NE Georgia mountains where three touched down about four miles from their cabin. They were the lucky ones. One of those tornadoes was the killer from Tuscaloosa. It was reported that it stayed on the ground for 300 miles. I live on the Atlantic, and this was like an inland hurricane with bands of destruction.

Many, many prayers for those who lost loved ones, the healing of the injured, and the devastation of losing homes, schools and businesses.

The Red Cross will need our help. God bless the National Guard and other volunteers who will assist these people. My heart goes out to all impacted.

41 Wish we had a basement, but we're on an island, subject to flooding during a hurricane.  We do have a raised foundation to protect from flooding....no help during a tornado.

A few years ago we were under a tornado warning and heard the Weather Channel name our street!  D'oh Boy and I hunkered down in my husband's closet for a while.  The tornado skipped over us and took out a church steeple a few miles away, and destroyed some cars in a parking lot, but no one was seriously injured or killed.

42 Just read comment above, Jane. Greenish sky is not good, as anyone in South knows. Stay safe with kitties. Hope all of your Atlanta family are ok. I am just now getting my caffine as I was up until 2am or so.

43 22 Hrothgar,

indeed there is also some evidence that tornado bands may follow the interstates as there is a thermal pocket alteration caused to the landscape.

The point we MUST make as individuals to our dumber/less interested friends is that this is the most complex system thus far known to man, it and the economy itself are the prime examples of dynamic disequilibrium in the known universe.  Attempting to establish predicative models is many factors of computation beyond us so the best we can do is establish predicative patterning models.  Maybe some day we will get a better ability to look at indicators and say 'there...this is what is causing this" but we are nowhere near close to that on the macro or micro level in either economics or weather forecasting.....let alone climate modeling.

44

In my area everyone has a basement, but I am aware that that isn't the norm in most states, for  example I am under the impression most people in Florida do not have them and i figured that might be true in other parts of the south.

Speaking of basements, mine flooded this morning, . 

Still, better a flooded basement than having your entire home destroyed by a twister.

45

"It's eerily quiet here.  Not a breath of air stirring.  The sky is greenish.  Tornado siren is just up the street.  If it goes off, I'm heading for my husband's closet, which has no exterior walls.  Hope it's enough."

 

Bathrooms with tubs is another option. Nothing like surrounding yourself with cast iron.

46 Ben, as a general rule, on the coastal plains the water table is too high to allow for basements. That's why we couldn't drain our in ground swimming pool more than halfway. Without the weight of the water in it, it would have popped out of the ground and cracked.

47

To Ben,

Basements in the non-mountainous regions of the South are relatively rare. In many places the water table is simply too near the surface. In my old yard in West TN, whenever I dug a hole to plant a tree it would fill with water.

I've known a few people basements and unless they are on a hill, they always have difficulty keeping water out. I am aware of a new home constructed with a basement in the Memphis area ten years ago or so. The buyer sued the contractor over it and he, the contractor, was forced to buy it back. He eventually tore it down and ate the loss.  

48 43 Just read comment above, Jane. Greenish sky is not good, as anyone in South knows. Stay safe with kitties. Hope all of your Atlanta family are ok. I am just now getting my caffine as I was up until 2am or so.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at April 28, 2011 09:15 AM (FnRYN)

Thanks.  Yeah, I know all about the green sky.  I'm getting ready to have a third cup of coffee, which I never do.  I'm still worn out from last night, worrying about family and friends in N. Georgia.  Wish my husband was here. 

49

"Maybe some day we will get a better ability to look at indicators and say 'there...this is what is causing this" but we are nowhere near close to that on the macro or micro level in either economics or weather forecasting.....let alone climate modeling."

 

I was told a butterfly in South America caused these things.

50 I was in the super outbreak of '74....of course I was 1 and a half.

Thing is it altered the culture of my county seat forever.

http://tinyurl.com/3vjxtl3

51 That death count is so high.  The giant F-5 that hit Midwest City, Oklahoma, only killed around 40.  It must be the greater numbers of tornadoes, because the alternative would be less preparedness. 

And, along that line, I saw one local weather guy doing a terrible job.  He was marveling at the live shot, and for the several minutes that I watched, he never gave location, speed, and a description of what areas were going to be hit next.  Neither did he tell people what to do--center of the house, lower portion, small room or closet.  Not once.

If that had been in Oklahoma, you would have had a constant running play-by-play on all those things.  No one would stand around and marvel.  "Wow.  Look at that.  That sure is big.  Look.  That is a big tornado.  Look, there is debris.  And there are power flashes."  Blah blah blah.  Here, that kind of commentary would have been kept to a bare minimum, because they'd want to get back to location, speed, direction, and what to do next.

52 51 GGD,

don't place faith in human beings, or trust in butterfly's wings

53

Jane, depending on th esize of th etornado it should be ok. Lock the door and it wouldn't hurt to wrap yourself in something just in case. a 1 or a 2 might not wreck the house, a 3 or 4 will cause a lot of damage, and a 5... well....

 

Stay safe, our prayers are with you. and your family.

54

Imagine what the MFM would be bleating if during all of this death and devastation Bush went on Oprah and to fundraisers. But for their Marxist messiah there's not a word about it

55 53 RD brewer,

I suspect there will be less tornados than the '74 outbreak had and less overall preparedness as a rule.  The OKC twister hit a prime tornado alley area, the '74 outbreak was largely in areas that are wary of storms.  I am not typing this to be a bigot or a jerk but driving through Alabama to South Carolina I am wagering that inland more than 60 miles there is not a lot of weatherproofing of property or basement building.

Buy a saferoom hardened shelter if you don't have a basement.

56 Incredible video from Alabama ...

57 We have been getting wave after wave of severe thunderstorms all morning here in central Maryland.  Tornado warnings and flash flood warnings too. 

58

Jane,

My grandparents were both severely injured in the 1925 Tri-State Tornado and 9 of my ancestors were killed that day. A few years before she died, my grandmother wrote an article about that day and mentioned the green sky. Interestingly, it snowed that evening.

59

Thanks Empire of Jeff and Flyfisher.

That explains a lot. I've lived in the same area my entire life, so it's never been something I've looked into. I knew that some places didn't have them, but never really bothered to learn why.

 

Kratos, yeah, my basement has a little water too.

60

Hey guys/gals. Any recommendations for a nice weather radio?

I have a Midland weather radio. Luckily, I haven't really had to use it yet. But of course it's AC/battery operated. Got a good deal on it for about $20 at a local grocery chain here in KC.

61 They keep extending tornado warnings here in central Maryland. This is one time I am hoping the weather guessers are wrong.

62

“WeÂ’ve got better stuff to do.  IÂ’ve got better stuff to do,” Obama said. “WeÂ’ve got big problems to solve, and IÂ’m confident we can solve them, but weÂ’re going to have to focus on them, not on this.” "Now, watch this drive."

63

Thanks.  Yeah, I know all about the green sky.  I'm getting ready to have a third cup of coffee, which I never do.  I'm still worn out from last night, worrying about family and friends in N. Georgia.  Wish my husband was here. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 28, 2011 09:18 AM (UOM4

We are praying for your (and family) safety.

So, what morons live in the effected area?  I know there are some, but I can't think this morning.

If you look at the destruction videos, the only houses partially standing were those with brick or block walls, foundation walls.  Hopefully if one comes my way, my block walls and true 4 x 4 oak frame will be enough because several families come to my house (even though I have a 2 story house built on garage).  We all stand under the stairs leading to the house. The tornado would have to go through 2 block walls to get us.

I'm still leery that because we are above ground it isn't that good of a plan.

64

>> Never understood why basements are so rare in prarie country

 

In Texas there's 3 problems depending on where you live:

1) high water table

2) sitting on rock, excavation is expensive and with no way to drain water away through soil you're basically building a grody swimmin pool

3) caliche (clay) soil that expands a lot when wet, and contract when dry (cracks of 6 to 12" common), puts too much pressure on exterior basement walls.

They're just not an option here.

65

Jane, more prayers sent to Savannah from an island in Florida.

We just have those piddly water spout things when we are not having hurricanes. On the other hand, we have that Tangelo Crist chasing ambulances now with Morgan & Morgan dog-bite specialists, palmetto bugs the size of Volkswagons, and pythons that come up into toilets from the Everglades. Giant lizards! Senator Botox-eyes Nelson! Thankfully no sinkholes here... yet.

Will watch the radar up there. I know you are tired.

66 67 DiT,

of course one could always go the great gradfolks' route and build a true storm cellar....you reinforce and harden a path out and compress the caliche into a holding room for preserves with no concrete that is purposed essentially just for hiding from the weather hell.....

it is what I aim to do in a few spots on our retirement property.

67 I live in Texas also. As Dave said, basements are not too popular here due to reasons he mentioned. A good storm room works much better.

68 death toll is up to 194

69 to all impacted by weather fears and threats my thoughts and prayers go out to you....

this weather is the price we pay for living on such awesome farming land.

70

In Texas there's 3 problems depending on where you live:

1) high water table

2) sitting on rock, excavation is expensive and with no way to drain water away through soil you're basically building a grody swimmin pool

3) caliche (clay) soil that expands a lot when wet, and contract when dry (cracks of 6 to 12" common), puts too much pressure on exterior basement walls.

They're just not an option here.

Yeah, around Austin, we've only got about 4 inches of topsoil before you hit rock.

I grew up in Amarillo, though, and we had a full cellar. Can't tell you how many times my mom woke me up in the middle of the night and dad carried me down to the cellar because the tornado sirens were going off.

71 6 Hearing reports of 8 dead in Virginia overnight.

Posted by: Jean at April 28, 2011 08:41 AM (7P7Ij)

My brother-in-law lives in Washington County, VA (near the Tri-state area). Tornado passed 50 feet behind his house. Thank God, all of his family are safe. Prayers to the injured and families of the dead.

72 70 Honeybadger,

and thanks to the rising threat of our little Muslim friends getting radiological event causing devices having a lead lined storm room may be a boom industry.

73 Does anyone else think it is an odd coincidence that Obama released his fake birth certificate on the same day everyone knew these killer storms were coming - knowing all the while the destruction would lead the news cycle?

74

Did Vic tell anyone here to where he was travelling?? I'm sure he's fine, but it's not a great time to be on the road.

Not so much where the ground is flat and in areas subject to flooding.

Re weather radios. I'm going to replace mine with one that let's you set which kinds of warnings to hear and in which areas.

Currently I get all the warnings for the Tri-State area and I just don't need to be woken up in the middle of the night for a warning for Tyler TX or somewhere in Arkansas.

75 I saw a tornado shelter on TV a while back, that you can have installed in your house.  It's basically a safe room, just big enough for you and your family to get inside and ride out the storm.

One of those is looking kind of good right now.

Anyone hear from Racefan this morning?  He was under his house outside Rome, GA last night and had a pretty scary time.

76 a wedding in the uk mama

77

Hang in there Jane! And wear your bike helmet. That's what I learned yesterday from the Alabama weatherman who was almost yelling at people to go hide already. "Don't wait for me to say your location TWICE."

I liked him.

78

My thoughts and prayers to all those affected by these awful tornadoes - those photos and videos that I've just looked at on Drudge are just horrific 

The Daily Telegraph, here in Sydney has just updated the death toll to 220 

79 Friends in Ringgold only got minor damage, but less then a 1/4 mile away utter destruction. Still waiting to hear from friends in other parts.

Monty...how bout no DOOM thread today, okay?

80

Good news from West Texas:

Officials predict the weather tonight and all day tomorrow is and will be very favorable for fire fighting. Winds will come from the south west with speeds in the single digits and a relative humidity of 19. The fire fighters are confident they can further contain this fire tomorrow.

81 80 Hang in there Jane! And wear your bike helmet.

I just laughed out loud, picturing Dear Leader in his helmet on his girl's bike. 

Is he finished with his waffle yet?  Any word from JEF?

Booosh would have been in Marine One, heading to the devastated areas to comfort people. 

82 Monty...how bout no DOOM thread today, okay?

Amen.

83 Prayers for all those affected by the storms. We were freaking out as it is almost a year ago we had the flood here but not as much rain as last time. I really think the floods here were so bad last year because the Corp of Engineers did not open some flood gates but they would never admit it - In the south basements are pretty rare. I have tried to get in touch with friends in Alabama but cells towers are down. I hope Obama responds better to these storms than he did for us after the flood.

84

a wedding in the uk mama

Umm, I think the comments about that were jokes about him going to the royal wedding. At least my comments about him and Abe Vigoda going there were jokes...

Monty...how bout no DOOM thread today, okay?

Disaster prep thread would be good. Lots of Alabama is without power, phones, cells or water. Are you prepared for a few days of that?

85 I'm about 90 miles south of Jane D'oh, and I can recall one house on the Island I grew up on having a basement- dig five feet and you hit the water table.

I just want to know if Teh JEF went out and had a slurpee like he did when Neda was murdered? Sorry Bastid...

86 I remember that green sky - http://www.april31974.com/monticello.htm

87

Oh, come on.

From FoxNews:

HEBBRONVILLE, Texas -- Officials say bees swarmed an elderly couple at their South Texas ranch, killing both and injuring their son.

Jim Hogg County sheriff's deputies say 90-year-old William T. Steele was spraying insecticide on a bees' nest Monday when the bees attacked him, his 92-year-old wife, Myrtle Steele, and their 67-year-old son, Richard Steele.

88

Disaster prep thread would be good.

I agree. Of course the problem with a tornado is that it could literally sweep all your preparednes' away. IF you took a direct hit.

Still, good idea for a thread.

89 Do you think Obama really cares about you rednecks. Hell, you didn't vote for Captain Fantastic so you must pay for your sins. FEMA may be there in a month or two Deliverance Boy!  If Bush were POTUS this would be classified worse then Katrina and Japan combined. But, Captain Fantastic to the rescue by doing a interview to Jabba "The Oprah" on his favorite gay porn star! We must remember this in 2012. And... Wow great news on the economy, Jesus H. bring back Bush and his "worst Economy in 50 Years" compared to this sickly economy.

90 Go over to Insty and scroll back- Glenn has some links for WX radios, disaster prep, and related stuff scattered in his links.

91 I've had Fox on all morning (well, had to check in on the idiots at Morning Joe).  They're showing the most amazing/terrifying videos.  I watched live on the Weather Channel yesterday as the mile-wide tornado bore down on Birmingham.  It was surreal.

Any word from Barry?

92 Regarding weather radios, we've had a Midland GEMA-approved one for a few years.  It's very dependable.  Gives marine warnings, also.

93 Here's the weather guy I mentioned in #53.  Look how much time the guy wastes marveling about the tornado without giving location, direction, speed, an accurate description of who's going to be hit next, and clear instructions on where to hide in your house.  In a three minute spot, he gives a rough location, like, once at the end.  Half-assed.  No map.  No radar tracking. 

Folks, it wouldn't be like that in Tornado Alley.  But I guess we deal with it more.

94

Of course the problem with a tornado is that it could literally sweep all your preparednes' away. IF you took a direct hit.

Yep. Sometimes all you can do is put your bike helmet on and pray.

I've been starting to stock up on some supplies, but have a ways to go.

95 But I need to wait for the Governor(s) to beg (publicly) for FEMA assistance before I can do anything--so it really isn't my fault!

96

Posted by: backhoe at April 28, 2011 10:08 AM (0bk6W)

Indeed he does. But I think it always helps to have our own crowd involved in such a discussion. Also what are you prepared for? A tornado, earthquake, blizzards, flooding?

It could not only very interesting, but also helpful to a lot of people who hadn't really thought about certain things.

 

97 This event will affect people all over the country.  One of my suppliers is just south east of Birmingham.  Thankfully they only received minor damage. I have $10K of prepaid custom orders with them.  If they been destroyed it would have been a major hit on me as well...and I'm 900 miles west.

98

President Obama overnight signed an emergency declaration for the state of Alabama following deadly tornadoes that have killed more than 170 people across the South.

ObamaÂ’s orders permit the Federal Emergency Management Agency to begin coordinating the federal governmentÂ’s response to the storms and to provide assistance to state officials

Obama spoke with Gov. Robert Bentley (R-Ala.) last evening, according to the White House. FEMA is now deploying federal liaisons to assist state officials in the disaster response. It will also mobilize other equipment and personnel as requested by the governor,

WashPost

99 My husband's best friend lives on a hill top in N. GA, and he and his wife spent the night in their basement.  Said there is damage all around them.

100

Prayers from me too for everyone affected by this.

I was woken up this morning around 6:55 AM by my mother freaking out because recycling was blowing all over the place. My dad, who's 85 was outside in the wind. I raced out there, sent him in and picked up recycling all down the street for over an hour. The wind was a good 20 or 30 km / hour.

I ended up with 3 large trash bags, way more than just our recycling since others bins were flying over right in front of me. Many of the people are older and I was already out there and if you're going to do a job, you might as well do it right. The house at the end of the street had a nice collection of recycling boxes in their front and back yard. But there's not a item of garbage anywhere on their property.

Stuff like this makes me worry about my parents when I leave after my arm heals. They're 74 and 85 but in good health, plenty of family nearby and have great neighbours but still. In any event, I'm really blessed to have fallen and have broken my arm in 2 places while in South Korea so I could spend more time with my folks. I was RACING to leave and get back to Korea when I fell a second time and broke the same elbow in 2 more places. I just think Jesus pushed me to give me a lesson in patience, and I'm fine with that.

I hope everyone and your loved ones are alright. Everybody have a great day.

I have to get stuff done to prepare for DOOM world. But I agree with someone above. How about skipping the DOOM thread today.

 

101

Stay safe Jane.  I hope all other morons and moronettes are safe.  My heart goes out to the families who lost loved ones, homes.  I live in Missouri and we certainly have our share of tornadoes but we have been lucky so far this year 

*knocks on wood*.

 

 

 

102

This event will affect people all over the country.  One of my suppliers is just south east of Birmingham. 

Yeh, I was talking to the kids about that. Lots of stuff moves along the I-20 corridor through Birminham, etc.

103 Work pressures made the DOOM thread impractical anyway, but yeah...let's focus on the folks today. I'm sure the finance world can get along without us for a day. May God watch over those who were affected by the storms.

104 Posted by: Canadian Infidel at April 28, 2011 10:17 AM (GKQDR)

Wow.  Hope your arm heals soon.  Glad you were there for your folks.  I'm glad my husband arrived in N. Georgia in time to herd his folks and aunt into the basement and stay with them.  They were pretty shaken.

He's golfing this afternoon with his sister's husband, a SP at King & Spalding.  He's going to ask him about his firm's DOMA and GITMO positions.  And he's pissed.

I'll report back!

105 Disaster prep thread would be good. Lots of Alabama is without power, phones, cells or water. Are you prepared for a few days of that?

Most people think of filling up their gas tank when snow is in the forecast but it isn't a bad idea to fill -er up this time of year, too. Of course doing that may mean you can't afford to stock up on water and food.

106

Question for your southerners, are basements common in the south?

Posted by: Ben at April 28, 2011 09:08 AM (wuv1c)

NO!  And as a native of SW PA, it kind of freaks me out on days like this.  The best we can do (central VA)  is a coat closet off the kitchen.

Totally O/T -- Allen West coming up on Beck at 10:35.

107

rdbrewer #96. That weather guy irritated the crap out of me. Big help he was. I do prefer the ones who tell you to wear bike helmets and get your butt to a closet or bathroom with blankets and mattress.

In MS yesterday, my Mom said that the weather girl was telling people to take cover "and not go outside to look." Guess this is the mentality of some due to storm chasers and getting a shot of it for youtube. Basically, if you don't normally hear freight trains in your neighborhood, it is not a good time to open the door and stick your head out.

I'd love a storm shelter, but water table is about 5 feet below me. Do have reinforced concrete block and stucco walls and house is built for hurricane code. Tornadoes are a whole 'nother beast, however.

Jane, the radar heading south of Savannah looks like it is going from red to yellowish as it hits the sea breeze. I see a smallish blob with a little tiny bit of red in it. I know this is very scientific. Do you hear sirens?

108

Most people think of filling up their gas tank when snow is in the forecast but it isn't a bad idea to fill -er up this time of year, too.

I almost never let the tank get below half full. Roads flood way too easily here, which might effect the gas stations, etc etc.

109 We always have a full  tanks of gas for hurricane prep.  Also, we keep bottles of water frozen in the freezer in the garage.  If you're lucky and just lose power, you can put them in your refrigerator/freezer to help keep things cold.  Also, we have an emergency camp stove, and a charcoal grill.  We have flashlights (with plenty of batteries) in every room.

When we're under a tornado watch (like now) I make sure my cellphone is fully charged.  If a warning is issued, I grab my purse (car keys + wallet) and phone and head to the closet (with kittehs, if possible).  Then pray.

110

Posted by: Monty at April 28, 2011 10:24 AM (/0a60)

Yer a good man, Monty.

111

Jane, the radar heading south of Savannah looks like it is going from red to yellowish as it hits the sea breeze. I see a smallish blob with a little tiny bit of red in it. I know this is very scientific. Do you hear sirens?

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at April 28, 2011 10:30 AM (FnRYN)

Not yet.  The tornado siren is just up the street.

112

you can put them in your refrigerator/freezer to help keep things cold.

Now that right there is a reason for a disaster prep thread. I've never heard of that. And I bet I'm not the only one...

113 OK, I'll start the ball rolling with a post of mine from 2005: http://tinyurl.com/w5skv

114

Also, we keep bottles of water frozen in the freezer in the garage.  If you're lucky and just lose power, you can put them in your refrigerator/freezer to help keep things cold.

Oh, clever! We were so unprepared for just a minor disaster here. Just because we'd barely moved in, didn't know where the candles were packed, the weather radio's battery had died while in storage, etc.

I had no phone book. I didn't know what radio station to put on. It was such a pain, esp. since my husband had to go to work and be in meetings and so couldn't help.

The tornado siren is just up the street.

I've had a tornado in the neighborhood, but we don't seem to have one of those. Great...

115 Odd, but it does seem that global cooling causes more tornadoes than does global warming.

116

Try this

http://radar.weather.gov/

 

NOAA's doppler radar site.

 

continuous updates available.

117 So Monty is OK? I thought he might have prematurely detonated his DOOM bomb. *BOOM*

118 Alan West calling cap and trade and global warming as "behavior modification through legislation"....

119

For prep kits (for hurricanes and shelter in place), or for bugging out I am prepared. I have a list of what I want to evacuate with that I keep from year to year. As my husband says, we will be eating tuna and swilling wine from my grandmothers china and crystal in our FEMA tent, while admiring my Christmas tree ornaments. However, we will not have clothes (Priorities are in place, y'all). We have metal hurricane shutters for every window and door, and we lock up and leave ahead of the herd, as evacuations are mandatory and we leave as the only way out are two causeways.

After we were hit on this coast and evacuated for two hurricanes in 2004, I got three 22 gallon Rubbermaid bins and filled them with enough food for two weeks, candles, battery lanterns, flashlights, batteries, can opener, corkscrew,weather radio (the crank up kind:American Red Cross FR300 from Best Buy), and a first aid kit as I am a neurotic nurse, plus a shot gun to add to the mix. I gave each of my college sons a bug-out kit (which they made fun of until they had to use it), as I had one kid at USF in Tampa, and one at FSU in Tallahassee. Basically the entire set of Florida is one big prep zone. I do bring my gin and wine as well when I evacuate. Oh, and a little book light for reading or I would not have survived in 2004.

Anyway, I have seen stores stripped of all food after hurricanes (Publix now has generators), and National Guard directing traffic a mile from my home. There is no way we would be like New Orleans after Katrina. I served on a food line with the Salvation Army after the hurricanes. People come together and they will across the South today and until this gets fixed.

120 A few notes from south of Stormzilla's track...

It is a cruel twist of fate that places large numbers of tornadoes in areas not conducive to basements.  I have a lower walk-in closet and bathroom for shelter if it comes to it, but it doesn't help my peace of mind.

I've always noticed these things follow Interstates and rivers.  Lately I'd seen a pattern where stuff seemed mostly to track around Montgomery proper--I wonder if that's because of the bypass system that rings most of town?  More study is needed...one of the few things worthy of Fed grant money to look at, in my opinion.

Estimates for the Tuscaloosa/B'ham monster are around EF4.  I've seen nothing to contradict last night's estimates it was a mile wide, indeed the video footage backs it up.  When I saw it first and saw the ropy structures orbiting it--well, I knew that would be bad.  That only happens with the strongest twisters.  Almost nothing stands up to that--you get out of the area, or take cover and pray.  Your odds are better with the first, if you can do it.

It hit in some of the highest population densities in the state, which likely counts for the death toll.  U of A opened its student center for shelter for students who needed it, I imagine that's going to be the case for a while.

Our new Governor activated the National Guard immediately last night once the scope of the disaster was clear.  They're probably all over the affected area now.

If you're in the path of this system, stay under or near cover.  There's been enough mischief from this monster, take care of yourselves.

121

Dang, my nice long comment eaten.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 28, 2011 10:25 AM (UOM4

I'm glad your husband and his folks and aunt are alright. Get to safety but keep us updated when things pass.

And thanks for the arm. But it's a blessing in disguise. Specifically 8 screws, 1 plate, 2 wires and a K-loop blessing in disguise. After I showered, my mom went for coffee with her friend. I watched 700 Club and cooked breakfast for my Dad while he read the paper. One of my Scottish coworkers in Korea was 27 and lost his father when he was 16. You can't buy time like that.

Although he's 85, my dad uses my laptop all the time to check on his finances and to play computer games I've shown him. There's a math / soduku puzzle game he LOVES. He's put in almost 600 hours on it and solved over 5200 puzzles. That was worth breaking the arm for right there. I'm just hoping I can transfer his data over to my older computer when I leave.

Thanks for no DOOM Monty. Hope work goes well.

And thanks to everyone for explaining the no basements in the South thing. I had clients down in Alabama and Florida and heard there were no basements but didn't know why. Stay safe all.

Back tonight.

122

a first aid kit as I am a neurotic nurse

Please tell me what to put in mine.

People come together and they will across the South today and until this gets fixed.

People here are so incredible. I'm not sure I ever want to move out of the South, even with the weather events.

123 123 For prep kits (for hurricanes and shelter in place), or for bugging out I am prepared. I have a list of what I want to evacuate with that I keep from year to year. As my husband says, we will be eating tuna and swilling wine from my grandmothers china and crystal in our FEMA tent, while admiring my Christmas tree ornaments. However, we will not have clothes (Priorities are in place, y'all).

lol.  Same here.  I'll haul family photos/videos, jewelry, silver, family Bibles, as many family mementos as we can cram in our two cars.  Oh, and the two kittehs.  Forget the clothes.  We have everything in the house digitally recorded and in a safe deposit box. 

Important thing is to get to a safe place.  Forget riding out the storm.

I would dread coming back to what's left of the house (we'd have storm surge damage, and a tree or twelve through the roof) and finding snakes and gators.  {{shudder}}

124
  Nothing too drastic here, just rain with the resultant flooding in low-lying areas.I doubt we'll even have any power outages.

  Still, I checked the camp stove, and there's always water stockpiled, along with the usual stuff. Saw a 8.8kw generator advertised  the other day, it's an Army unit. Don't know anything else about it, but I think it's going to get investigated. Could be a viable alternate for us. Any thoughts?

125 Prayers for everyone affected by the storms. May God comfort those who have lost loved ones and bring them peace.

126 morning ya'll. hope everyone is good.

127

I've always noticed these things follow Interstates and rivers.

Oh, crap.

OK, I'll start the ball rolling with a post of mine from 2005: http://tinyurl.com/w5skv

Thank you!

128 130 morning ya'll. hope everyone is good.

Posted by: Racefan at April 28, 2011 11:03 AM (XPlPH)

So glad you made it through the storms last night!  How do things look around you?

129 dbrewer #96. That weather guy irritated the crap out of me. Big help he was. I do prefer the ones who tell you to wear bike helmets and get your butt to a closet or bathroom with blankets and mattress.

Yeah, there's a guy in OKC named Gary England.  With a tornado that big, he would have been hollering at you by then, reaching through the TV, grabbing you by the throat, and personally throwing you into a small room or closet on the lowest floor in the center of the house.  That dude would come right out of your TV.  In a few seconds of watching, you would have known exactly where it was and where it was going.

130 The thing that pisses me off at these storm chasers the Weather Channel is always showing (I don't watch WC much since NBC took over.  Al Roker....ugh) is how they marvel over the tornadoes.  You're sitting there thinking, Dear Lord, there are people dying or losing everything, and you guys are commenting on the storm like it's a video game. 

131 Thing is, Gary England has a lifetime of experience dealing with tornadoes.  That's probably the first one that fella has ever dealt with.  So I don't really blame him that much. 

It's just that, being from here, when you watch that, you can feel something is wrong instantly.  "He's not saying [all those things we're used to]. "

132 just tree limbs down. i havent drove around but i think everything is ok.

133

Mama AJ: Benadryl, Tylenol, Advil, Immodium, anti-nausea meds, bandaids, gauze pads, paper tape, ace wrap, instant ice bag, tourniquet, tweezers, alcohol wipes, polysporin, cortisone cream, Q-tips,plastic gloves,over the counter flu/cough meds, and I think that is most of it (from memory. I need to update the supplies and have an index card in the cheap plastic tackle box I have this all packed in within the "bug out" bin).

I know the American Red Cross has great links to preps. I probably need to add more to everything.

Jane, am going to freeze water bottles for my garage freezer as well. Thanks for reminding me.

134 We had a tornado siren go off here in NE GA at about 1am, but luckily nothing but some wind.

135

Re weather radios. I'm going to replace mine with one that let's you set which kinds of warnings to hear and in which areas.

Currently I get all the warnings for the Tri-State area and I just don't need to be woken up in the middle of the night for a warning for Tyler TX or somewhere in Arkansas.

I recently adjusted the settings on my weather radio. Now I only get notifications for watches/warnings for my country and the counties immediately surrounding my county. I don't need alerts for the storm after its already a hundred miles past me.

136 Heh.  Money quote from a Tuscaloosa commenter on that video rdbrewer put up:

Obama would come down and see the devastation and make sure that rescue efforts are being handled properly, but he had go to Chicago to tape a show with Opra, then he had to scoot off to NYC for a fundraiser...you know that important business he had to get back to that the birth certificate 'carnival' was distracting him from.

137

Country = county.

 

138 The extremely pleasant weather we are having today, I would gladly trade back for the souls and property lost in these storms.  Please get and stay safe.

139

Does anyone know anything about those solar generators and/or if they are worth buying?

We apparently are on the emergency services underground cable grid; as for both hurricanes we only lost power (and, more importantly, air conditioning) for a day when both hurricanes hit in 2004. My next door neighbor lost power for two weeks and had a gas generator going. Gas generators are ok for a brief period, if you have the place to safely store the gas. We don't have that and it was hard to get gas for awhile here (why it is a good idea to have cars gassed up).

I have seen the solar powered generators on teevee but don't know if they are similar to solar powered nose hair clippers for $19.99 with a free shammie and oxyclean.

140

Thanks. Backhoe's link has good stuff, too.

My first priority right now is a bug out kit and/or bin to store in the car. Only 34 shopping days til hurricane season.

(We shouldn't get hit hard in NW Louisiana, but rain on saturated ground floods the neighborhood pretty quickly.)

141

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 28, 2011 11:07 AM (UOM4

That is something that has been bothering me also. I've watched Storm Chasers on Discovery. I've noticed recently that the chasers are now into 'science', and if they can get near a tornado and leave an instrument or such in it's path that they can gain valuable data about the storm.

Ya know, I call that bullshit. Every damn tornado is different. Whether you logged that the winds were 200mph or so will NEVER allow you to predict the next one. All these guys are doing (seems to me), is just being adrenaline junkies getting close to storms. And getting subsidized for it

And not only that. If you watch those shows, and pay attention, notice how the roads are clogged with storm chasers. And note how they are going way beyond the speed limit.

I just don't buy into those people. As opposed to spotters, who provide a valuable resource to the NWS.

142 Any word from Teh Won yet?

143 No word from Teh Won. He's recovering from that grueling appearance on Oprah.

144 Any word from Teh Won yet?

I think something posted something up a ways that was released last night...

145

we only lost power (and, more importantly, air conditioning) for a day when both hurricanes hit in 2004. My next door neighbor lost power for two weeks and had a gas generator going.

When we were buying this house, I made note of no power lines in the neighborhood...except I screwed up. Most of the neighborhood has them buried, but ours is up on a pole, surrounded by trees, behind the house.

Across the street, people got power back much sooner than we did. Power company had lots of priorities before they got to a tiny number of people with a tree down on the wires.

146 "In my area everyone has a basement, but I am aware that that isn't the norm in most states, for  example I am under the impression most people in Florida do not have them and i figured that might be true in other parts of the south." Lived in Florida all my life and I have literally never seen a house here with a basement. Like others have said, the water table is too high. Our violent storm prep usually involved huddling in an interior closet or bathroom with a tub. Prayers to all who've been effected so far and especially for Jane D'Oh. My brother and his family are stationed at Hunter in Savannah and live in Pooler. I'm hoping that area misses the worst of it!

147 Prayers to all who've been effected so far and especially for Jane D'Oh. My brother and his family are stationed at Hunter in Savannah and live in Pooler. I'm hoping that area misses the worst of it!

Posted by: Mandy P. at April 28, 2011 11:27 AM (vGmv/)

Thanks for the prayers.  We're fine so far.  Everything nasty looks to be south and west of us. 

148 irongrampa?

Insty has links to ( I think... ) Popular Mechanics site, and they have a whole generator section- safety, how to size it, etc.

Mama AJ? As my favorite politician sez, "You betcha!"
Toward the end of that post are newer links & info.

Since it's just me & The Kid ( The late Miss Emily's pup ) now, we aren't going anywhere- the house has stood since 1887, and survived "The Great Hurricane of 1898"- but I do keep a bugout bag in the car. And a shotgun. And a few other "things useful..."

149 Ah, AP story:

President Barack Obama has declared an emergency in Alabama after a wave of tornado-spawning storms swept across the state Wednesday, killing at least 58 people.

In a statement released late Wednesday, Obama said he had spoken with Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley and approved his request for emergency federal assistance, including search and rescue assets.

The president and first lady Michelle Obama offered condolences to families affected by the storms and commended "the heroic efforts of those who have been working tirelessly to respond to this disaster."

The White House declaration authorizes the Federal Emergency Management Agency to coordinate disaster relief efforts in Alabama.

More than 70 people in four states have been killed by the storms, including at least 15 in Tuscaloosa, home of the University of Alabama.

At least he bothered to acknowledge this one.  Sheesh.

150 146 Any word from Teh Won yet? Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 28, 2011 11:20 AM (UOM4 His Press Secretary released this statement from Feckless Leader: “If you’re complaining about the tornados, and you’re getting hammered by the winds… you may wanna think about relocating to a workers paradise, say in New York, Michigan, or California”

151 AP still seems to have the low numbers.  All the numbers I've seen for Tuscaloosa casualties are much higher than 15...

152

Statement of sympathy issued. Typical stuff.

Alright, I'm going to head out and live my life to the fullest. And by that I mean go to Walmart.

 

Can we sell Ace of Spades bike helmets at Cafe Press? Would be good to be able to recognize each other in FEMA camps.

153

In a statement released late Wednesday, Obama said he had spoken with Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley and approved his request for emergency federal assistance, including search and rescue assets.

The president and first lady Michelle Obama offered condolences to families affected by the storms and commended "the heroic efforts of those who have been working tirelessly to respond to this disaster."

That's it?!? 

154

Can we sell Ace of Spades bike helmets at Cafe Press? Would be good to be able to recognize each other in FEMA camps.

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 28, 2011 11:34 AM (XdlcF)

heh

155 Like I said, at least he bothered.  Actually he bothers me a lot, but that's nothing to do with the weather...

156 Just checked Accuweather.  The nasty stuff is getting closer.  Better run to the store and get cat food and wine.  Want the kitteh's tummies full.....just in case.  (Hate to come to in the rubble, being nibbled by a kitteh.)

157 Just checked Accuweather.  The nasty stuff is getting closer.  Better run to the store and get cat food and wine.

Skip the wine.  Alcohol and questionable water supplies are a bad combo.  Make it a quick trip and get back safe...

158

That's it?!? 

Well, Jane, he did miss his golf practice yesterday. I mean, really. He is busy and does not have time for silliness. You'd think he was President of the United States or something important. Instead he is an incompetent nincompoop with squirrel ears and flapping wrists. Each day brings a new fresh hell for me. Soon I will be as insane as Chrissy Matthews or Olby and hurling objects at the teevee when the 's' sounds trigger my tics.

159 Dibs on the Ace helmet, but I want a propeller on mine... and a decoder ring.

160 163 Dibs on the Ace helmet, but I want a propeller on mine... and a decoder ring.

Posted by: backhoe at April 28, 2011 11:43 AM (0bk6W)

 

BESURETODRINKYOUROVALTINE

161 Yep, Captain Midnight... Sky King... Commando Cody... great big TV sets with little tiny half-round picture tubes.

162

Oh, quick thought while running out the door. With alll the things that need charging, I was looking at getting an adaptor for the car that just gives you a normal electrical outlet so you can plug in what you want. Of course, then you're have to gather the charging cords for the phones, Kindles, camera rechargable battery, handheld game chargers, etc.

With kids, being able to play during a power outage or while fleeing can be helpful. Or downloading a book to read outloud on the Kindle during a power outage (true story).

163 be safe Jane........ last night when i make storm igloo kit i did throw a bottle of Jack in it, just in case.

164 Anyone note that there's a Doppler-indicated tornado currently due west of Ace's compound? Looks like it'll go to the north of him though. Straight for LauraW's location. I assume she summoned it there for her own nefarious reasons.

165

I was looking at getting an adaptor for the car that just gives you a normal electrical outlet so you can plug in what you want.

......................................

you can get all sizes of them and they work great......... they go up to 3000 watts.

 

166

With kids, being able to play during a power outage or while fleeing can be helpful. Or downloading a book to read outloud on the Kindle during a power outage (true story).

Outside of the fleeing part, don't you have any board games at home? Or just some kids books? Does everything have to be electronic?

I'm just curious.

(A deck of cards can work wonders).

167 Both my truck and the former Miss Emily's car have medium sized 110V inverters aboard for laptops, etc.  I have a 750 Watt unit on the porch that was superseded by a 7KW generator.

168 Haven't slogged through these comments, so forgive me if it's been said, but a weather radio is critical.  We lost power yesterday afternoon, and I had a weather radio.  I was able to call people on the cell phone and give them tornado warnings they otherwise had no access to since power was out all over the region (we're just across the TN-AL state line, 40 mi north of Huntsville).  I heard the repeated tornado emergencies called for that monster that was north of Birmingham (Huntsville is our closest NWS office), and could track its movement by those declarations.  Substantial damage was done about 10 mi from our town.  I remember April 3, 1974.  It felt like that.

169 About being prepared:

For those of you that still go and pick up your meds, you can refill them a week early.  Do that.  That way you can take that 'week supply' and put it in you 'GO' bag or tornado shelter.  Then, at the end of the year, use those up and do it again the following year.  That way you will never be without your meds.

Plus, when your family needs a new pair of shoes because they are warn out (not too small) put them in your shelter or go bag (or place your family'[s shoes in a bag by the door (where ever) when a tornado watch is issued.  That way you will still have your shoes even if you didn't have time to put them on when running for cover.

Also, a few bottles of play bubbles.  They don't take up much room but they can calm any kid down quickly in any situation.

Also put up pop lights (battery operated push lights) in every room of your home.  That way you have light when the power goes out, you know where the light is, and you don't have to search for a flashlight.

Plus, each bed has a flashlight under the pillow in my home.  That way if I need to wake the kids in the middle of the night, I don't have to carry anything more than I need.  They can grab them and go and it gives them some control in a crazy situation.

Plus, we also have a cowbell in our tornado shelter and our cars (whistles too).  Your mouth might me too dry to whistle, but cow bells are loud and easy to shake (even with your feet if needed).

Plus, crayons, coloring books, and cards.

170

In a statement released late Wednesday, Obama said he had spoken with Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley and approved his request for emergency federal assistance, including search and rescue assets.

The president and first lady Michelle Obama offered condolences to families affected by the storms and commended "the heroic efforts of those who have been working tirelessly to respond to this disaster."

That's it?!? 

 

Yawn!  Look, I could have written a strongly worded letter to the tornado, but I've got more important stuff to do. 

171

i have  a Coleman 3000 watt inverter. i was playing with to see what it would do. i ran lamps, puters, tv's.......  i plugged alot of stuff into it and it ran them all at the same time.

you can think about it like this....  a 100 watt lamp uses 100 watts and go from there.

172 Sunny here in East Tennessee.

April 25-28 2011, Deadliest Tornado Outbreak since 1974.

173 So genghis is an architect named Tracy?

174

Heh, from Drudge:

The weather team at corporate sibling WJLA Wednesday night confirmed a tornado touched down around the golf course at Andrews Air Force Base.

"There were three reported tornadoes for our region in less than 3 hours," said the StormWatch7 weather blog, as news outlets reported that scores of people in the South had been killed in storms. "That's pretty damn insane. It looks like Tornadogeddon 2011 has lived up to its name."

No word on the extent of damage, if any, to the president's favorite local links.

175 Just returned from the grocery store.  Ran into a little lady I met at our last tea party.  Her granddaughter was hunkered down at U of AL and said it was the worst experience of her life.

Just starting to rain here.

Another hurricane tip:  If you're evacuating, turn off and empty your ice-maker.  Do the same if your power is out for any period of time.  A friend told us of returning home after a mandatory evac, no damage to the house....except the warped hardwood flooring in the kitchen and breakfast room.

We also keep baby wipes in case there's no running water. 

176 Jane, glad you are home safe. Thanks for the ice maker tip. Have added that to list.

177 Guess who's coming to dinner for a quick snack?

I suppose it was only a matter of time, honestly...

178

Outside of the fleeing part, don't you have any board games at home? Or just some kids books? Does everything have to be electronic?

Lol, I did mean for fleeing. We have plenty of non-electronic stuff and they still have the best times with a big box.

 

 

179 177So genghis is an architect named Tracy?
  Sadly, yes. It's not much of a secret. I gave it up when I quit the blog in a hissy fit in 2009. (September 6th's ONT to be exact) Much to everyone's surprise and horror, including mine, Ace let me slither back last fall.

180 Ho hum...

181

Glad you're back Jane.

Great tips everyone.

I saw some of the news coverage while I was getting lunch. Horrendous. Just wow...

 

182

Posted by: AoSHQ's worst commenter, DarkLord© at April 28, 2011 01:09 PM (GBXon)

 

I'm surprised he didn't go there earlier.  After all, his parents marched at Selma.  That's where they met. 

183 Interestingly enough, one of the RTJ locations was along the path (Hoover).  No idea what the damage there was.  Make of that what you will...

184 181 Guess who's coming to dinner for a quick snack?

He's coming to inspect any damage to the Robert Trent Jones golf trail.

At least the jackass is coming.  I just hope he doesn't bore everyone to death with some wordy speech that's all about him.

185 I can't believe all the damage that the wind turbines caused. Those things should be banned.

186 Everyone should get one of those weather alert radios. For the price of a few cases of beer, you may just save your life.

187 190 Everyone should get one of those weather alert radios. For the price of a few cases of beer, you may just save your life.

We've had one for several years.  We also have a combo hand-crank radio, flashlight and cellphone charger.

188 Jane, radar looking a bit worse right now west of you.

189 192 Jane, radar looking a bit worse right now west of you.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at April 28, 2011 01:41 PM (FnRYN)

Yeah.  Just checked. 

190

Bet Obummer is upset about having to cancel this to come to the Red State of Alabama:

He also was scheduled to have a ceremony honoring the Auburn University's 2010 BCS National Championship football team, but that has now been postponed.

Most thinking presidents wait until after some of the immediate crisis is over to visit, so as not to tie up traffic and security. President Bush had that much sense, but he was not the multi-complex-squirrel-ears as the current buffoon we have now. I doubt the majority of people want him there in his boots from the oil spill and his rolled up sleeves. Ugh.

191 Jane, you ok? Worst part south of Savannah, band south of Montgomery, east of Richmond Hill.

192 Wackos like AL GORE and JAMES LOVELOCK will use this GAIA poppycock to explane this

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