1 hmmmmmmmm

2 They should fire his ass and retract all of the letters.

3 This could be the breaking point. Police unions de-certify and reform to get new leadership?

4

I propose that all cops be referred to- positively- as 'badgers'

they're tough

they take no shit

the badge thing

5

One section of The Law Enforcement Code of Ethics reads, “I will never act officiously or permit personal feelings, prejudices, animosities or friendships to influence my decisions,”

...which explains why the police in WI took no action whilst witnessing the felonious destruction of recall petitions by their union thug brothers... or something.  The "uh, yeah, that guy representing us isn't actually a cop" excuse holds no water.

6 ...which explains why the police in WI took no action whilst witnessing the felonious destruction of recall petitions by their union thug brothers... or something.  The "uh, yeah, that guy representing us isn't actually a cop" excuse holds no water.

+1

I question the professionalism of some the local Madison cops when I read that story.

7 Mother of Mercy! Is this the end of RICO?

Prosecute Palmer, with vigor and extreme prejudice.

8 Prosecute Palmer, with vigor and extreme prejudice.

We're too busy at the moment.

9 Prosecute Palmer, with vigor and extreme prejudice.

Posted by: ya2daup at March 17, 2011 01:55 PM (Wqfrr)

You'd have to have a federal government willing to back up the charge.  Good luck with Eric "My People" Holder in office.   *seethes*

10 RICO?  Never heard of it.

11 Hey Johnny. Johnny Friendly. C'mon out here, I wanna talk to yez.

12

I propose that all cops be referred to- positively- as 'badgers'

they're tough

they take no shit

the badge thing

Posted by: BDJ at March 17, 2011 01:52 PM (cUNcx)

Honey Badger approves.

13 Again, this is why Princess Barack's incessant lying is such a BFD. I respect the law and generally respect law enforcement. But are these police officers writing these reassurances telling the truth, or is this some kind of public employee taqiyya tactic? There's no way for me to *know*, but the Madison police's actions (or inaction, to be more precise) tells me much more than any words ever could.

14

OT, but an update on the Fukushima situation from the Nuclear Energy Institute:

UPDATE AS OF 1:30 P.M. EDT, THURSDAY, MARCH 17:

Radiation readings at the Fukushima Daiichi site boundary were measured today at a lower level, between 2 and 3 millirem per hour.

UPDATE AS OF 11:35 A.M. EDT, THURSDAY, MARCH 17:

Fukushima Daiichi
The reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi plant are in stable condition and are being cooled with seawater, but workers at the plant continue efforts to add cooling water to fuel pools at reactors 3 and 4.

The status of the reactors at the site is as follows:

Reactor 1Â’s primary containment is believed to be intact and the reactor is in a stable condition. Seawater injection into the reactor is continuing.

Reactor 2 is in stable condition with seawater injection continuing. The reactorÂ’s primary containment may not have been breached, Tokyo Electric Power Co. and World Association of Nuclear Operators officials said on Thursday.

Access problems at the site have delayed connection of a temporary cable to restore off-site electricity. The connection will provide power to the control rod drive pump, instrumentation, batteries and the control room. Power has not been available at the site since the earthquake on March 11.

Reactor 3 is in stable condition with seawater injection continuing. The primary containment is believed to be intact. Pressure in the containment has fluctuated due to venting of the reactor containment structure.

TEPCO officials say that although one side of the concrete wall of the reactor 4 fuel pool structure has collapsed, the steel liner of the pool remains intact, based on aerial photos of the reactor taken on March 17. The pool still has water providing some cooling for the fuel; however, helicopters dropped water on the reactor four times during the morning (Japan time) on March 17. Water also was sprayed at reactor 4 using high-pressure water cannons.

Reactors 5 and 6 were both shut down before the quake occurred. Primary and secondary containments are intact at both reactors. Temperature instruments in the spent fuel pools at reactors 5 and 6 are operational, and temperatures are being maintained at about 62 degrees Celsius. TEPCO is continuing efforts to restore power at reactor 5.

Fukushima Daini
All four reactors at the Fukushima Daini plant have reached cold shutdown conditions with normal cooling being maintained using residual heat removal systems.

15 Yeah, Sorry, Laura, but I'm not gonna let 'em off the hook for this. As noted, the police have already de facto taken sides. I'm certain that there are any number of good police officers in WI who don't support the racketeering letter. But there's almost certainly a bunch who do, and I suspect we're only hearing disclaimers because they got caught.

16 Sorry also, Laura, but I'll give you 1000:1 that most of the "public safety workers" in Wisconsin endorse the shakedown.

17 So far the vast majority of cops (while admittedly there are some exceptions that come here) sound like the moderates from the religion of peace after 9/11.

Crickets......

18 Good to hear

19 Again, this is why Princess Barack's incessant lying is such a BFD.

I respect the law and generally respect law enforcement. But are these police officers writing these reassurances telling the truth, or is this some kind of public employee taqiyya tactic?

There's no way for me to *know*, but the Madison police's actions (or inaction, to be more precise) tells me much more than any words ever could.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at March 17, 2011 02:02 PM (Pzf4N)

I think you have to look at the police force as a group like any other.  There are bad apples, and they tend to be the ones that everyone notices because they stink.  But there are a lot of good cops who think this kind of crap is despicable. 

I'd like to see more of those good cops standing up and publically decrying the blatant inaction and outright coercion displayed by their fellow officers.  I understand the pressure on them must be huge to fall in line, but just like we need "moderate" Muslims to step up and denounce en masse the behavior of extremists, we need cops to do the same thing about the union thugs in their midst.

20 @12,

I'm pretty sure Honey Badger don't care.

21 Not buying it.  They stood by and watched a lot of the bullshit going down and did nothing.

I have lost respect for the police. They are going to have to earn it back.

22 Is there a form for not giving to the FOP? Or do I just not put something on a postcard?

23 There's another party to this:  The citizens of WI.

They have a right to demand that this tool Palmer be removed, or, if he isn't, that the government de-certify their union.  It's the people who are the ultimate power here, and it's the people that are the victims of Palmer's extortion.  The public never elected Palmer, or his ilk.  If Palmer has now become a ruling thug, the people have the right and the means to get his boot off their necks.

As with all PEUs, it's the people, the taxpayer, that's the ultimate victim.

24

Oh, and in addendum to my comment at #19, when I say en masse, I mean it.  I need to be assured that the vast majority of LEOs out there are against this thuggish behavior.  Otherwise, how can I trust that the cop who's giving me a speeding ticket is doing it because I was really speeding, and not because I've got an "I *heart* Gov. Walker" sticker on my bumper?

Trust has been shattered here.  It won't be easy to rebuild it.

25 A nice turn of phrase from a comment in the Badger Blogger piece:

As is commonly known, leftists tend to clot around governmental seats of power ...

26

RICO's Roughnecks!!!

27 This is nothing more than the police deciding that political opinions must be approved before they will be allowed.

28 Do they have recalls?

29 You ever see a bureaocracy that didn't simply exist to preserve and further itself?

30 "But there are a lot of good cops who think this kind of crap is despicable." To clarify my comment, I do believe what you wrote in your first paragraph. I take issue with your second paragraph on two points. 1. I've known about two-dozen muslims in real life going back over twenty-five years. I would not be the least bit surprised if a fairly large plurality of that sample is in at least tacit support of muslim extremism. 2. Trust is broken. That is what I meant about Obama's lying being a BFD. Taqiyya makes trusting muslims--even when they denounce extremism--stupid in a "fool me twice" kind of way. What kind of an idiot would I be to ever take anything a democrat or a unionista ever says at face value?

31 23 There's another party to this:  The citizens of WI.

They have a right to demand that this tool Palmer be removed, or, if he isn't, that the government de-certify their union.  It's the people who are the ultimate power here, and it's the people that are the victims of Palmer's extortion.  The public never elected Palmer, or his ilk.  If Palmer has now become a ruling thug, the people have the right and the means to get his boot off their necks.

As with all PEUs, it's the people, the taxpayer, that's the ultimate victim.

Posted by: nickless at March 17, 2011 02:09 PM (MMC8r)

Excellent point!

32 So what if a few cops disapprove? They joined a *union*. That means that they want to be treated as a collective instead of as individuals. That's the whole point of a union - collectivism. If they disagree that strongly with the collective, they can either leave it and say so - publicly - or they're voice is one with it. We need to get past this incessant bullshit embraced by the right that cops and teachers and firefighters are really good people in a bad situation. These union thugs want to have their cake and eat it too - they whine about not liking the underhanded, backroom dealings - but they still pay the dues, cash the checks, and when push comes to shove they STFU and do what they're told. The best possible thing you could possible compare them to is a "mafia princess" who knows that the money they spend and the lifestyle they live is the product of violence and extortion but doesn't have the character to repudiate it and walk away - and that may be an insult to mafia princesses.

33 Be sure to run a web search on 'James L. Palmer DUI' for some fun reading.

34 BFD.  It sure looked to me as if the cops all sided with the union morons in all the action sequences.

Of course they would step away from something like this appeal to businesses.  First, it is in writing and has been splattered everywhere.  Second, the message is just far too blatant in its veiled threat.

Now let's hear from the firemen and others.  < . . . crickets . . . >

35 Radiation readings at the Fukushima Daiichi site boundary were measured today at a lower level, between 2 and 3 millirem per hour.

To help put this info into perspective:

2 millirem (mrem/hr) per hour is considered in my state an acceptable dose for workers to receive for up to 8 hours a day.  Anything up to 50 mrem/hr the area can be worked in up to 5 hours.

36 WI?  Japan?  Libya?

Fuck all that shit, I am off to Rio!

http://tinyurl.com/5ang2x

37 As SF noted in an earlier post, during heated political discourse, labor unrest, or civil strife, law enforcement officers become the uniformed arbitrators of fairness.

Sorry your performance in WI does not give me a lot of confidence that police will buck the unions to enforce the law.

38 Let me put it another way: The day I see muslims eliminating the extremists from within their ranks, I'll rethink my position on whether taqiyya can be overlooked. The day I see "public safety" organizing agitators expelled from public safety agencies, I'll rethink where I'm currently drawing my us/them line.

39 If the cops didn't have the huevos to shitcan Mr.Palmer in light of his DUI, they aren't going to do it for this.

40 The head honchos in LE are donks because they are politicians. The rank and file are not. I use to get dragged to these victim rights rallys/lunches with the cops. However, they were nothing but promos for some donk running for office and the victim groups were always antiDP. Everybody just sits there steaming.

41 This whole thing sets up a classical conflict of interest.

Were I any of these firms, I'd respond with a lawyer's letter asking for a membership list of these organizations so we can be sure that we are not dealing with anyone on their membership list when we are negotiation with public officials.

If we lose a contract or a sale on a decision made by any member of those organizations when they are acting in their public capacity (not their union capacity) it's instant lawsuit time.

42 O/T:  Awwwww, Barry went to the Japanese embassy today to sign a condolence book. 

See, folks?  He cares!  He really does!

43 “I will never act officiously or permit personal feelings, prejudices, animosities or friendships to influence my decisions,” ...which explains why the police in WI took no action whilst witnessing the felonious destruction of recall petitions by their union thug brothers... or something. The "uh, yeah, that guy representing us isn't actually a cop" excuse holds no water. Precisely. Look at the videos of the police just letting rioters maul, deface and defile the Capitol. Look at the chief of the Capitol police, after the vote, playing pattycake with the rioters refusing to leave the building. Cops are for sale, like anything else.

44 42
O/T:  Awwwww, Barry went to the Japanese embassy today to sign a condolence book. 
See, folks?  He cares!  He really does!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 17, 2011 02:24 PM (UOM4

Did he take along multiple pens and/or crayons so that he could hand them out to his swooning sycophants? Was he asked how he felt regarding the performances of his bracket picks in the NCAA Tournament thus far?

45 O/T: Awwwww, Barry went to the Japanese embassy today to sign a condolence book. Big mistake. No crayons in the Japanese Embassy.

46 This is what really frosts my ass. The officers chose to become public servants. They are sworn to uphold the law regardless of their personal views and feelings.

Click below for the Madison, WI  Police Officer's Oath of Honor.

http://tinyurl.com/48not4g

Seems to be they need to read this again.

47 Wisconsim police have shown that they are nothing but union thugs.  They  place allegence to the union over their oath of office.

48 42 O/T:  Awwwww, Barry went to the Japanese embassy today to sign a condolence book. 

Pathetic.  What a putz.  What's next, sending DVDs and iPods of his speeches to the Japanese survivors? 

49 Was he asked how he felt regarding the performances of his bracket picks in the NCAA Tournament thus far?

How *are* his picks doing?  Is he any better at picking b-ball than he is at football?

50 Barry went to the Japanese embassy today to sign a condolence book. Pathetic. What a putz. What's next, sending DVDs and iPods of his speeches to the Japanese survivors? Probably a boxed set of classic Hollywood disaster movies. NTSC format region 1.

51

Most likely, Palmer sent that letter AFTER the Executive Board/Council of the police union approved it.  It would be unusual for a lawyer to commit his union to a course of action without the consent of at least the governing body of the union.  Maybe they didn't have a full membership meeting to vote on it, so certain individual members are against it, but the Executive Board had to have known about the letter and approved of it.

I think the reason that police & firefighters were excluded from this legislation in the first place was to prevent the police & firefighters from going rogue and refusing to work (you know, a 'blue flu' kind of thing).

Since that plan backfired, the next step ought to be to limit the collective bargaining rights of them too.  They clearly aren't willing to do their jobs to save the citizens who pay their salaries.

 

52 Damn, linky didn't work.  Here it is.

Law Enforcement
Oath of Honor
On my honor,
I will never betray my badge,
my integrity, my character,
or the public trust.
I will always have the courage
To hold myself and others
accountable for our actions.
I will always uphold the Constitution,
the community,
And the agency I serve,
so help me God.

53 48 42 O/T:  Awwwww, Barry went to the Japanese embassy today to sign a condolence book. 

Pathetic.  What a putz.  What's next, sending DVDs and iPods of his speeches to the Japanese survivors?


_{For God's sake, don't give him or his staff any ideas.}

54 48
Pathetic.  What a putz.  What's next, sending DVDs and iPods of his speeches to the Japanese survivors? 
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 17, 2011 02:30 PM (9hSKh)

It is a little-known fact that the sole reason Godzilla hasn't shown up to mess up Japan even more was its receipt of a sternly-worded letter from Preznint Splutnik.

His ways are subtle, his impact is substantial!

55 49 Was he asked how he felt regarding the performances of his bracket picks in the NCAA Tournament thus far?

How *are* his picks doing?  Is he any better at picking b-ball than he is at football?

I haven't checked yet, but he apparently picked all the #1 seeds to go to the Final Four.

I'd laugh my ass off if this was the year where a #1 seed finally lost to a 16.

56 The Monsters are Due on Maple Street The only question is whose hand is on the switch flicking the lights on and off.

57 #55  I haven't checked yet, but he apparently picked all the #1 seeds to go to the Final Four.

You're not speaking my language, good sir, as I know nothing about basketball or brackets, but isn't this the equivalent of voting "present"? 

58 Camden Police Union Leader Thug compares Gov. Christie to Adolf Hitler. When is someone going to educate these ignorant scrunts about Godwin's Law?

59 This is nothing but a ploy so the MBM can dismiss this by saying "So-and-so, a police man strongly disagreed with the letter." Thereby, allowing them to give the impression that all cops are against this. And it'll allow them to attack anyone who dares mention the extortion further by repeating the "grain of sand make a whole beach" lie above.
Meanwhile, not one letter of apology, not one retraction, and not one person will be fired over the blatant extortion letter. Exactly as planned because every one of the cops either support the effort or care so little about their fellow citizens to do anything about it beyond cheap, free empty words.

I'll believe they disagree when there are real consequences and real action.

If an individual cop really disagrees with the letter, all he has to do is publicly donate to Scott Walker. Just $5. Oh, too chickenshit to do that? Yeah, we all know where you really stand.

60 48 Box set of Godzilla movies.

61 You're not speaking my language, good sir, as I know nothing about basketball or brackets, but isn't this the equivalent of voting "present"?

That's exactly correct.  He picked the top 4 ranked teams to finish in the top 4.

62 Now lets see lads, March 17th?  What does that mean?  I am thinking.

http://tinyurl.com/69r3t2w

63 Man, ya gotta be quick around here.

64 That's all well and good.  BUT, what are the CONSEQUENCES for this fucktard?  He threatened businesses with a boycott by Police and Firefighters without their approval.  Will he lose his position?  Will he be reprimanded?  Will be be brought up on charges?

65 57
You're not speaking my language, good sir, as I know nothing about basketball or brackets, but isn't this the equivalent of voting "present"? 
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 17, 2011 02:37 PM (9hSKh)

More or less. His keen mental powers, honed by playing 11-dimensional chess, recognized that all the action was in the churning scrum of the also-rans.

His picks are subtle, his powers of discernment are purely fictional.

66

OT again, but this is getting absolutely ridiculous.

Here's the headline in HUGE letters at FoxNews.com:

NUKES NOT COOLING, AMERICANS FLEE

Then, elsewhere on FoxNews, they have this little headline (with no accompanying story yet) posted today:

UN atomic agency: Japan situation 'very serious,' but not significantly worse

And across the top of the page in the red BREAKING NEWS banner is this headline:

Japanese Engineers Lay Power Line to One of Damaged Nuclear Reactors.

That would be Reactor #4, which is EMPTY of fuel.  The problem is the spent fuel coolant pools, which they need to pump full of water to keep the spent rods cool.  That's why they need to get power there, to run the coolant apparatus (among other things).

FOX, CNN, MSNBC: CALM. DOWN. DAMMIT.  You're contradicting yourself on your very own websites and it's SCARING THE CRAP out of everyone.

67 @41 Laugha said a mouthful. That proceeding should be sponsored by the Chamber of Commerce, and should have begun already.

Given the line-of-pike assembled in that state, though, I'd go much further. Like, an immediate non-adjourning plenary session of both houses of legislature, together with the state's superior trial courts and its supreme court, An all-nighter combination grand jury, fair trial, and law reform, knocking every wobbly red down the church steps, followed by a hangin.
Pour encourager les autres, God damn it to Hell. Are you now, have you ever, and prove you ain't.

S'pose yer 14ers would stay away from that, too?

68 SN: I correct myself.  They've gotten the power grid to Reactor 2.  So they're making progress, not that the frelling media would ever SAY so.

69 Screw the MFM and Fox. Go to http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/ It's dull on account of the absent hysteria. Which is why it's good for us.

70 which explains why the police in WI took no action whilst witnessing the felonious destruction of recall petitions by their union thug brothers... or something.  The "uh, yeah, that guy representing us isn't actually a cop" excuse holds no water.

This for sure. What  the hell else are they gonna say? It's not their words we should be paying attention to, but their actions.

I can see why they didn't do much when the hippies took over the capitol; that's typical riot control. The hippies weren't too rowdy, overall.

But looking the other way when people are destroying petitions, etc? That shows their solidarity with the letter loud and clear.

71 Yeah, the damage is done. Police Officers have shown that they can't be trusted to uphold the rule of law.
Which is just another reason to break public sector unions.

72 It wouldn't be St. Patrick's day without a donnybrook and the DeMint thread appears to be filling that bill quite well ...

73 It wouldn't be St. Patrick's day without a donnybrook Is that like an Irish coffee? Sounds yummy.

74

Awwwwww, gee, that's nice.

Now decertify by end of business Tuesday or be frog-marched off by the National Guard.

The time to be nice is long past.  Fight on this hill, or be cut down in the valley.

75 19

I'd like to see more of those good cops standing up and publically decrying the blatant inaction and outright coercion displayed by their fellow officers. 

Call me when they start arresting these shitheels for treason and bearing arms against the legitimate government of the State and the expressed will of the People. Until that point, it's meaningless - as far as I can see, no conservative in that State is in any way equal under the Law to union scum.

76

Too little, too late.

More like a PR move than anything genuine.

All the pigs at the trough (firefighters, cops and teachers) can kiss my ass.

77 Well, if we shrug off Barry in 2012, at least he will have made it easy for the next guy to display an appropriate sense of humility in office.

78
O/T: They're closing down Barack Obama Elementary School because of fiscal mismanagement and non-achievement.

79

from the head of the The Wisconsin Professional Police Association, James Palmer (who is not, and never has been a police officer). We at BadgerBlogger have heard from readers on the Milwaukee Police Department and other area agencies, telling us that the WPPA does not speak for them...

yet doesn't Palmer represent the Police in Wisconsin? Doesn't He represent their Union? how can this be walked back.  don't see how.

80 O/T: They're closing down Barack Obama Elementary School because of fiscal mismanagement and non-achievement.

Posted by: Ed Anger at March 17, 2011 02:53 PM (7+pP9)

Like the real deal. 

81 weren't the Police Unions funds and Time used to intimidate political leaders.

82 78
O/T: They're closing down Barack Obama Elementary School because of fiscal mismanagement and non-achievement.

It's like an Onion story but real.

83 Get rid of the unions.  That's it.  There is no role for a labor union in law enforcement or any monopoly public service.  The end.

84 Check out the threat delivered to Meade and Althouse.   Now posted at Althouse.

85 I friend of mine from the chicago area has a niece that married a WI cop last year. The first thing he tells my friend is, "well you are family now, we protect our own."

nice...real nice. It says it all about WI cops

86 @84 That little bit about the baseballs on the lawn opens a big can of worms. In light of the available video evidence of their policemen's refusal to do their jobs when it came to the union thugs protesting, is it reasonable to respect Madison city government's claim to their local monopoly on force?

87 Public sector unions should be illegal. They are an evil, corrupting parasite.

Give them civil servant protection, but destroy these unions. Crush them. Drive them to the sea.

88 Their allegiance is clear: Union members first, police officers second.

89 89 Their allegiance is clear: Union members first, police officers second.   And evidently, citizens last. It's time to disenfranchise the civilian civil service. They are not free people discussing and petitioning government for the redress of grievances They are government, and as such should not be allowed to influence the People's vote in any fashion in any way as long as they live off of the hard work of citizens.   They should have never been allowed to vote once they got hired. And they should never be allowed to have wages as high or higher than in the public sector.   If you want to be a fucking parasite, you have to give up your rights since you are fattening yourself on the sweat of your neighbors. Your vote is pre-determined - you will always tend to vote to enrich yourself if you are a government employee. That skews the will of the People and so is unacceptable.   De-certify and disenfranchise, then prosecute the ringleaders for treason and bearing arms against the Union. Hang the guilty and bury their bodies at sea. Expropriate all of their property. Done.

90

should have been a space between alot of those sentences and the beginning after "police officers second"

 

91 "should have been a space between alot of those sentences and the beginning after 'police officers second'" Fuck it. Truth is truth no matter how it's formatted.

92 I'd like to know why some Unions haven't been hit with the RICO laws. If some prosecutor had the spine and teeth, they could probably shut down the entire AFL-CIO.

93 The threat to Ann and Meade is disgusting. 

'Hope law enforcement actually does something about it. 

94 Well, thanks John. If it wasn't for the repeated instances of police standing by and doing nothing in response to illegal trespassing, destruction of property, assaults and destruction of petitions by union thugs, I'd be heartened by that press release.

Words no longer speak here, action is required. Enforce the law fairly, and speak up if you see others failing to do that.

The harm is already done, it has to be repaired.

95 #95  I agree.  It's too late, they are already besmirched.

96 What does Low Earth Orbit have to do with cops in Wisconsin?

97 Labor and any think of union that use extortion or threat tactics need to be total abolished starting with the SEIU as well as the TEAMSTERS and AFL/CIO and the whole lot of them all