May 17, 2011
— DrewM Welcome to your PC Navy.
James Gill, a spokesman for General Dynamics NASSCO in San Diego, said Monday the company suggested the name to honor its mostly Hispanic work force and the mostly Hispanic neighborhood, Barrio Logan, where the boat builder is located.The other 13 cargo ships built by NASSCO for the Navy have been named after such notable Americans as explorers Meriwether Lewis and William Clark, and famed aviator Amelia Earhart.
Actually, all the ships in this class of supply ship have been named after notable explorers or figures in the US Navy. That is until the most recent ship, the USNS Medgar Evers. Evers of course was a noted civil rights activist who was assassinated in 1963, though he appears to have no connection to the US Navy. Chavez did serve two years in the Navy towards the end of WWII, which he described as, “the two worst years of my life.”
Congressman and Marine veteran Duncan Hunter of California is not pleased.
The decision “shows the direction the Navy is heading” by making a political statement instead of honoring Navy history and tradition, Hunter said in the statement.“If this decision were about recognizing the Hispanic community’s contribution to our nation, many other names come to mind, including Marine Corps Sgt. Rafael Peralta, who was nominated for the Medal of Honor for action in Iraq,” Hunter said.
I disagree with Hunter on one point, as important as supply ships are, Sgt. Peralta's name deserves to be on a combat vessel.
The Navy's got a lot of problems with the way it names ships. We need to cut the crap about naming them after political figures and stick to the basics...states, cities, battles, heroes and traditional names like Constellation and Enterprise.
Before anyone points to this and cries "Racism!" let me just say, I'm opposed to naming the next carrier and a whole class after Gerald Ford. I'm sure he was a nice guy and I know he served in the Navy but no, just no. I think the George H.W. Bush is pushing it but barely makes the cut on a curve and the Vinson and Stennis should be right out.
Traditions are important. Sailors should serve on ships whose names reflect credit on the US Navy and provide an example of the services traditions. Political figures of any stripe or figures selected for reasons of racial pride, simply do not fit the bill.
Thanks to Slu for the heads up.
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Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 17, 2011 02:03 PM (UOM48)
Ship names? pfft.
Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at May 17, 2011 02:04 PM (6IReR)
Posted by: Barack Obama at May 17, 2011 02:04 PM (zhC9L)
Posted by: A.G. at May 17, 2011 02:05 PM (r1N2K)
Posted by: The Entire Crew of the USS Jimmy Carter at May 17, 2011 02:05 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 17, 2011 02:06 PM (hlY6R)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 17, 2011 02:06 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Oldcat at May 17, 2011 02:06 PM (z1N6a)
I'm half Portuguese and half Polish. Where's my peoples ship. My proud, strong, oppressed peoples.
Posted by: swamp_yankee at May 17, 2011 02:06 PM (jOQSe)
Posted by: Delta Smelt channelling The Simpsons at May 17, 2011 02:07 PM (A0VTZ)
I guess it will carry cabbage and strawberries.
And sit really low in the water.
And you'll hear it coming from miles away.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 17, 2011 02:07 PM (d0Tfm)
We need to cut the crap about naming them after political figures and stick to the basics...states, cities, battles, heroes and traditional names like Constellation and Enterprise.
Mostly agree, but can't we name some of them after American super heroes?
Posted by: Speller at May 17, 2011 02:07 PM (J74Py)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 17, 2011 02:08 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Dick Blumenthal at May 17, 2011 02:09 PM (zhC9L)
Jeebus. I just had a dreadful thought.....when are they going to get around to naming a ship after a Muzzie? You know it's coming.
The USS Fatfuck Ibrahim Hooper has a certain martial air to it.
Posted by: Cicero at May 17, 2011 02:09 PM (QKKT0)
This - our military mission is no longer breaking things and killing people.
Posted by: Vic at May 17, 2011 02:10 PM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Truman North at May 17, 2011 02:11 PM (K2wpv)
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 17, 2011 06:10 PM (kUaEF)
That would have to be a bomb ketch.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 17, 2011 02:12 PM (z1N6a)
Posted by: Fareed Zakaria at May 17, 2011 02:12 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Truman North at May 17, 2011 02:13 PM (K2wpv)
Posted by: Oldcat at May 17, 2011 06:06 PM
But NO GRAPES!
Posted by: huerfano at May 17, 2011 02:15 PM (IN2A4)
Do they automatically surrender and beg for mercy when caught outside territorial waters?
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at May 17, 2011 02:15 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 17, 2011 02:15 PM (l3wWa)
#31
They could just call it the U.S.S. Truman North's Mom.
/snap
oh, and 2nd'd Jeff on the Hayek thing.
Get me a USS Christina Hendricks
Posted by: CAC at May 17, 2011 02:16 PM (3JO0J)
Do they automatically surrender and beg for mercy when caught outside territorial waters?
Or are they simply limited to shooting unarmed vessels at anchor?
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at May 17, 2011 02:16 PM (0q2P7)
For instance, the USS Juan Corona
Posted by: Gunslinger at May 17, 2011 02:16 PM (Zi+FQ)
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 17, 2011 02:17 PM (kUaEF)
Posted by: Tantor at May 17, 2011 02:17 PM (blNMI)
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at May 17, 2011 02:17 PM (y/+eD)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at May 17, 2011 02:17 PM (KE+Ya)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 17, 2011 02:17 PM (zgZzy)
Posted by: Soona at May 17, 2011 02:18 PM (LgItj)
Posted by: mbruce at May 17, 2011 02:18 PM (Fr8N6)
Always thought Cesar Chavez was a Mexican boxer. Didnt even realize he was Mexican-American. Lightning jab I tell ya. Lightning.
Posted by: swamp_yankee at May 17, 2011 02:19 PM (jOQSe)
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 17, 2011 02:19 PM (kUaEF)
If you really want to strike fear in a totally pc way, take a cue from TV.
The U.S.S. Multi-ethnic all-inclusive street gang that somehow doesn't use guns but is meant to be intimidating (until the one guy with spray cans rolls up in his politically-correct wheelchair) that always appears on Law and Order SVU
Posted by: CAC at May 17, 2011 02:19 PM (3JO0J)
Posted by: Rocks at May 17, 2011 02:20 PM (th0op)
Too top heavy.
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 17, 2011 06:19 PM (kUaEF)
You want the best equipped fleet.
The biggest guns, I thought.
Posted by: CAC at May 17, 2011 02:20 PM (3JO0J)
Posted by: SGT Stumpy at May 17, 2011 02:20 PM (4yQ5E)
How about a submarine?
They always have wet backs.
Posted by: TexasJew at May 17, 2011 06:17 PM (L8Let)
Simultaneous entry into AoSHQ Halls of Fame and Shame.
Posted by: FUBAR at May 17, 2011 02:20 PM (1fanL)
"We need to cut the crap about naming them after political figures and stick to the basics...states, cities, battles, heroes and traditional names like Constellation and Enterprise."
Ok, so we compromise and name it the USS Milagro Beanfield. Someone fought a war or some such there, didn't they? 
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at May 17, 2011 02:20 PM (xy9wk)
Get me a USS Christina Hendricks
Posted by: CAC at May 17, 2011 06:16 PM (3JO0J)
That would have to be a catamaran, with twin hulls.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 17, 2011 02:21 PM (z1N6a)
Oh no, you din'int...
Posted by: Enrique Mojado at May 17, 2011 06:20 PM (Zi+FQ)
Si puede, pochito!Posted by: TexasJew at May 17, 2011 02:21 PM (L8Let)
Posted by: Corky the Retard at May 17, 2011 02:21 PM (xEXzN)
Posted by: Soona at May 17, 2011 02:22 PM (LgItj)
USS Mailed Fist of the Infidel?
Maybe too provocative.
Posted by: Cicero at May 17, 2011 06:20 PM (QKKT0)
USS Crusade Finisher
Posted by: FUBAR at May 17, 2011 02:22 PM (1fanL)
Posted by: Soona at May 17, 2011 06:18 PM (LgItj)
On the plus side, it would cause the enemy to run even faster...
Posted by: Oldcat at May 17, 2011 02:22 PM (z1N6a)
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at May 17, 2011 02:23 PM (xy9wk)
On the plus side, it would cause the enemy to run even faster...
Posted by: Oldcat at May 17, 2011 06:22 PM (z1N6a)
or throw up. one or the other
Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at May 17, 2011 02:23 PM (6IReR)
Did I miss your comment on open carry and Philly cops?
Posted by: the Charlie Daniels of the torque wrench at May 17, 2011 02:23 PM (le5qc)
@15: "I'm half Portuguese and half Polish. Where's my peoples ship. My proud, strong, oppressed peoples."
It was a screen-doored submarine. Didn't work out so well.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at May 17, 2011 02:24 PM (xy9wk)
Did I miss your comment on open carry and Philly cops?
Wasn't touching that with a ten-foot pole. Suffice to say, my department does not hire well. Hell, they promoted me, so what does that tell you?
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 17, 2011 02:25 PM (zgZzy)
Posted by: Crabby Appleton at May 17, 2011 02:25 PM (xEXzN)
Posted by: TH at May 17, 2011 02:26 PM (nyHxK)
How about a submarine?
They always have wet backs.
Posted by: TexasJew at May 17, 2011 06:17 PM (L8Let)
Simultaneous entry into AoSHQ Halls of Fame and Shame.
Posted by: FUBAR at May 17, 2011 06:20 PM (1fanL)
I'm humbled by both honors.
Posted by: TexasJew at May 17, 2011 02:27 PM (L8Let)
The USS Michael Moore.
Posted by: Navy Naming Officer at May 17, 2011 06:24 PM (zgZzy)
It would be the first in a new line of navy garbage scows.
Posted by: Soona at May 17, 2011 02:27 PM (LgItj)
I think Disney owns the Cesar Chavez trademark
Posted by: swamp_yankee at May 17, 2011 02:27 PM (jOQSe)
I think Disney owns the Cesar Chavez trademark
Posted by: swamp_yankee at May 17, 2011 06:27 PM (jOQSe)
It fits in with their bullshit multiethnic shows.
Posted by: TexasJew at May 17, 2011 02:29 PM (L8Let)
USS Idolizing Political Pop Stars
USS Mollifying An Unruly Constituency
USS Paying for Votes
USS Senator Insisted
USS Ideological Prop
USS Positive News Coverage
USS Givin It To The Man
USS Whim
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 17, 2011 02:29 PM (bxiXv)
He knew from the start it would undermine his work and destroy the wages of the farm workers.
Like JFK, he is not the liberal hero many people think he was nowadays.
Posted by: logprof at May 17, 2011 02:31 PM (BP6Z1)
Posted by: Jordan at May 17, 2011 02:34 PM (4z6KA)
Posted by: Dave at May 17, 2011 02:35 PM (t2t1+)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 17, 2011 02:35 PM (zgZzy)
Posted by: logprof at May 17, 2011 06:31 PM (BP6Z1)
He openly counter-protested amnesty protests and called them all sorts of foul things.
Yet now he is a ...hero to illegals.
Weird.
Posted by: CAC at May 17, 2011 02:35 PM (3JO0J)
Posted by: Jordan at May 17, 2011 06:34 PM (4z6KA)
Hey dumbass, he was in "Hellcats of the Navy". Instantly qualified him.
Posted by: TexasJew at May 17, 2011 02:35 PM (L8Let)
With names like:
No More Mister Nice Guy
Gunboat Diplomat
Of Course I Still Love You
So Much For Subtlety
Just Testing
Kiss My Ass
Size Isn't Everything
Hand Me The Gun and Ask Me Again
Big Sexy Beast
and
No Look What You Made Me Do
How could you go wrong?
"Yeah, I was in the Navy back in 22, served on the Big Sexy Beast."
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 17, 2011 02:37 PM (bxiXv)
other than being a former Commander-in-Chief, what did Ronald Reagan have to do with the Navy?!?!?
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at May 17, 2011 02:37 PM (zb9qo)
It just isn't a quality AoSHQ thread without the requisite fuckwit. Thanks!
Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at May 17, 2011 02:38 PM (6IReR)
Posted by: Jordan at May 17, 2011 06:34 PM (4z6KA)
I thought it was a nice gesture but a bad precedent at the time.
Because of, you know, this.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 17, 2011 02:38 PM (bxiXv)
Name every single ship that gets sent to the Gulf after a porn star.
OR
A bacon-related product.
Posted by: CAC at May 17, 2011 02:38 PM (3JO0J)
Posted by: David at May 17, 2011 02:38 PM (OXUok)
Posted by: Jordan's Mommy at May 17, 2011 02:39 PM (zgZzy)
Fucking Boehner
Posted by: Barbarian at May 17, 2011 06:37 PM (EL+OC)
Whichever Republican primaries that gagging cocksucker will have the largest war chest in American history.
Posted by: TexasJew at May 17, 2011 02:39 PM (L8Let)
Posted by: Jordan at May 17, 2011 02:40 PM (4z6KA)
Posted by: nevergiveup at May 17, 2011 02:40 PM (i6RpT)
We are destroying our traditions AND our country. Please, folks, we need to band together and get these idiots out of their positions if influence. It starts with politics but then it sweeps through the entire government. We need Congress and the next President to take a hard look at our departments and begin a purge of these "progressives" before they destroy us all.
Posted by: crosspatch at May 17, 2011 02:41 PM (AdYoA)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 17, 2011 02:42 PM (zgZzy)
This ship will have the best-stocked salad bar of any ship in the world.
Posted by: sifty at May 17, 2011 02:43 PM (2dbd9)
Posted by: logprof at May 17, 2011 06:31 PM (BP6Z1)
He openly counter-protested amnesty protests and called them all sorts of foul things.
Yet now he is a ...hero to illegals.
Weird.
Posted by: CAC at May 17, 2011 06:35 PM (3JO0J)
To be fair, some of these fans think anyone famous who is also the same race as them deserves "hero" status.
Posted by: robviously at May 17, 2011 02:43 PM (Xq2WY)
Posted by: nevergiveup at May 17, 2011 02:43 PM (i6RpT)
This ship will have the best-stocked salad bar of any ship in the world.
The crew will be picked up every day at dawn at random street corners.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 17, 2011 02:44 PM (zgZzy)
Posted by: nevergiveup at May 17, 2011 02:44 PM (i6RpT)
Old hotness- Crony capitalist navy ship
New hotness- Crony capitalist Slamtrak locomotive
Posted by: the Charlie Daniels of the torque wrench at May 17, 2011 02:44 PM (le5qc)
I"m looking at the top of its superstructure now from my office window.
The Mission Accomplished ship.
Posted by: Barbarian at May 17, 2011 02:45 PM (EL+OC)
Man, no one complained about Navy tradition when they named a ship after Ronald Reagan.
You're absolutely right, Jordan. The Navy should get back to its maritime traditions. Perhaps naming a ship after The Rainbow Fish would be more appropriate.
Posted by: FireHorse at May 17, 2011 02:45 PM (Rq1/g)
Posted by: the Charlie Daniels of the torque wrench at May 17, 2011 02:46 PM (le5qc)
Posted by: Jordan at May 17, 2011 02:47 PM (4z6KA)
This Saturday in Atlanta, Herman Cain plans to announce his decision about whether or not to run for President. I wish I could be there! The text of the email is below.
------
As you may know, earlier this year I created a Presidential Exploratory Committee to "test the waters" for a possible Presidential Campaign. I have been humbled by the response. Thousands have contributed money and volunteered to help. I am extremely grateful.
This coming Saturday, May 21st, I will be sharing my decision with America. I would personally like to invite you to this very special, historic event.
Herman Cain Announcement Rally
Saturday, May 21st
12:00 PM - High Noon
Centennial Olympic Park
285 International Blvd. NW
Atlanta, GA
The announcement rally will be an afternoon of family fun and entertainment, culminating in the sharing of my decision regarding a Presidential Campaign. Feel free to invite family and friends. I hope you will join us on this special day. Click here to RSVP.
Thank you for all your support!
Posted by: MWR at May 17, 2011 02:47 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: Maria Shriver at May 17, 2011 02:47 PM (zgZzy)
To be fair, some of these fans think anyone famous who is also the same race as them deserves "hero" status.
USS Marko Ramius.
(He was Lithuanian, right?)
Posted by: FireHorse at May 17, 2011 02:47 PM (Rq1/g)
Posted by: the Charlie Daniels of the torque wrench at May 17, 2011 06:46 PM (le5qc)
Here, have some General Mills Captain Crunch, you Republican fascist..
Brought to you by dead taxpayers..
Posted by: TexasJew at May 17, 2011 02:48 PM (L8Let)
Posted by: MWR at May 17, 2011 06:47 PM (CA2NO)
Fuck you Cainiac. Sell your shit someplace else.
Posted by: Barbarian at May 17, 2011 02:49 PM (EL+OC)
Posted by: BruceTheRobert at May 17, 2011 02:49 PM (re6ik)
Posted by: Rahm Emmanuel at May 17, 2011 02:50 PM (zgZzy)
Posted by: MWR at May 17, 2011 06:47 PM (CA2NO)
Fuck you Cainiac. Sell your shit someplace else.
And good evening to you, too, Barbarian.
Posted by: MWR at May 17, 2011 02:50 PM (CA2NO)
Just cut the crap altogether. No building or ship can be named after anyone who hasn't been dead at least 50 years. The idea of naming buildings and ships, like with GHWB, while the guy is alive is just wrong.
Agreed, except that the 50 years dead requirement would be waived for active service members killed in action.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 17, 2011 02:51 PM (7YzRS)
I doubt that pudgy, little bastard has been described as 'long' for quite some time.
Posted by: fluffy at May 17, 2011 02:51 PM (SwkdU)
Fuck you Cainiac. Sell your shit someplace else.
Posted by: Barbarian at May 17, 2011 06:49 PM (EL+OC)
I see a little internecine warfare going on..
Posted by: TexasJew at May 17, 2011 02:51 PM (L8Let)
Posted by: Jack at May 17, 2011 02:52 PM (kCT7A)
I see a little internecine warfare going on..
Posted by: TexasJew at May 17, 2011 06:51 PM (L8Let)
News to me. I was just dropping off the info since every other candidate has had their "will they/won't they" announcement mentioned here.
Posted by: MWR at May 17, 2011 02:53 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: Ted Kennedy's Gristle Encased Head at May 17, 2011 02:54 PM (+lsX1)
News to me. I was just dropping off the info since every other candidate has had their "will they/won't they" announcement mentioned here.
Posted by: MWR at May 17, 2011 06:53 PM (CA2NO)
Jon Huntsman!
Posted by: TexasJew at May 17, 2011 02:54 PM (L8Let)
We need to cut the crap about naming them after political figures and stick to the basics...states, cities, battles, heroes and traditional names like Constellation and Enterprise.
How 'bout professional wrestlers, Batman villains and Aerosmith song titles?
Posted by: FireHorse at May 17, 2011 02:54 PM (Rq1/g)
SSBN 602 First 1961, changed the world as we know it 50 years ago. I didnt link Wyatt but Im sure he knows
Posted by: Dave at May 17, 2011 02:55 PM (t2t1+)
Posted by: Jack at May 17, 2011 06:52 PM (kCT7A)
They're just doing the work ships named after white people won't do.
Posted by: MWR at May 17, 2011 02:55 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: USS Diversity at May 17, 2011 02:56 PM (RPYjQ)
Posted by: nevergiveup at May 17, 2011 02:57 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: BruceTheRobert at May 17, 2011 02:57 PM (re6ik)
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 17, 2011 06:51 PM (pdRb1)
She's a dildo boat already.
Posted by: Beto at May 17, 2011 02:58 PM (H+LJc)
Or Perhaps the U.S.S Gingrich? Naw it would probably open it's big hatch and sink within the first week.
Posted by: BruceTheRobert at May 17, 2011 02:59 PM (re6ik)
Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at May 17, 2011 02:59 PM (J4Pnx)
Posted by: Jordan at May 17, 2011 02:59 PM (4z6KA)
.S.S Barney Frank. It's long small and full of seaman....
It's loading hatch is in the fantail
Perhaps a sub would be better for Bawney, full of seaman and always going down.
Posted by: BruceTheRobert at May 17, 2011 03:01 PM (re6ik)
O/T: Senator Tom Coburn just dropped out of the Gang of Six.
Even that dumbass could read the tea leaves...
Posted by: TexasJew at May 17, 2011 03:04 PM (L8Let)
O.K. they have to make an exception on the 50 year rule for this guy. He's already been brain dead for 50 years and he's good at driving shit underwater.
The newest addition to the fleet.... The first Chivas Regal powered sub. The U.S.S. Teddy Kennedy!
Posted by: BruceTheRobert at May 17, 2011 03:04 PM (re6ik)
Even the Fox people said that there was no hope of a compromise. It will take the House writing the separate funding bills and presenting it as a take it or leave it. But it appears Boner has no nads to do that.
Posted by: Vic at May 17, 2011 03:06 PM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Dave at May 17, 2011 03:08 PM (t2t1+)
Posted by: Secundus at May 17, 2011 03:11 PM (jOqJf)
USS Leaf Blower
racist!
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at May 17, 2011 06:55 PM (gYzmF)
I'm part Mexican........Absolute Moral Authority bitchez!!!!
I'm also part Irish, which means that I'm too lazy to steal booze.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 17, 2011 03:13 PM (7YzRS)
Let's just get it over with and go for the whole (ahem) burrito:
I christen thee, the USS Benedict Arnold!
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 17, 2011 03:14 PM (IdCuw)
Posted by: BruceTheRobert at May 17, 2011 03:14 PM (re6ik)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 17, 2011 03:18 PM (IdCuw)
USS Rio Grande, nobody crosses the Rio Grande!
wait...nevermind
Posted by: sifty at May 17, 2011 07:16 PM (2dbd9)
Brown Water Navy
Except that in this context, the word "Brown" is racist.
Luckily, I have that Absolute Moral Authority® Card.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 17, 2011 03:18 PM (7YzRS)
Posted by: Gordo at May 17, 2011 03:21 PM (pecsX)
Wish we could let the military be the military, without all the lefty schmucks playing soldier.
Posted by: red speck at May 17, 2011 03:22 PM (hcRaZ)
Posted by: stace at May 17, 2011 03:25 PM (8PLOi)
Posted by: Running Hobo at May 17, 2011 03:26 PM (l1oyw)
Posted by: Running Hobo at May 17, 2011 03:30 PM (l1oyw)
United States
Constellation
President
Congress
Chesapeake
Posted by: Captain Ned at May 17, 2011 03:34 PM (4DXCI)
Posted by: Leo Ladenson at May 17, 2011 03:37 PM (Srhra)
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 17, 2011 03:38 PM (kUaEF)
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 17, 2011 03:38 PM (kUaEF)
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 17, 2011 03:39 PM (kUaEF)
Posted by: MWR at May 17, 2011 03:40 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 17, 2011 03:43 PM (kUaEF)
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 17, 2011 07:43 PM (kUaEF)
Don't forget the USS Constitutional Prenumbra.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 17, 2011 03:44 PM (z1N6a)
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 17, 2011 03:45 PM (kUaEF)
Gingrich just called Ryan to apologize.
So for his ship name How about the W.U.S.S. Backtrack.
Changes directions without warning and the navigators can never figure out what their position is. It's main hatch is always opening and it has a tendency to leave it's sister ships behind if they are stricken. It's already obsolete.
Posted by: BruceTheRobert at May 17, 2011 03:46 PM (re6ik)
Posted by: Max Entropy at May 17, 2011 03:50 PM (lH6z9)
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 17, 2011 07:45 PM (kUaEF)
Winfield Scott and or Zachary Taylor would be better.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 17, 2011 03:51 PM (z1N6a)
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 17, 2011 03:54 PM (kUaEF)
And while the USS Carl Vinson began an unfortunate series of major warships named for political hacks, the career Georgia congressman was the one who fought to get the naval rearmament bills of 1938 and 1940 through Congress. He really was the father of the modern Navy, or at least the guy who got the money to build it. Doubtful WWII would have gone as well as it did without him.
The USS John Stennis, while I am happy as hell to have a warship nicknamed "The Johnnie Reb", not so much. Maybe after the dissolution of the Federal government and she becomes the CSS John Stennis instead.
Posted by: SGT Dan at May 17, 2011 03:55 PM (nranl)
Posted by: Pissy Pessimist at May 17, 2011 03:56 PM (DHF+4)
GHWB is pushing it and Stennis/Vinson are "right out" in deserving of carriers named after them? I dunna see it that way, Dave, although one can ALWAYS find a more deserving choice among the honored dead.
George HW Bush = Navy pilot flying WW2 combat missions at 19 years of age. Shot down...rescued. Served capably in ever-increasing positions of power for the next 40 years until he choked himself into an early retirement on the "No New Taxes" pledge.
If he stayed firm on the taxes thing, Bush is re-elected in 1992, Bill and Hillary Clinton do not poison the body politic and American history is very different, most probably for the better. Warts and all, 41 is still totally worthy of a carrier named after him.
Carl Vinson = father/founder/most active congressional proponent of a "two-ocean navy" strategery. Led congressional approval of original USS Enterprise nuke carrier. Segregationist tendencies impossible to overlook, but still quite worthy of a carrier named after him.
John C Stennis = the only one of these 3 who one might make a plausible case for the naming of a carrier after as political in nature. Former segregationist Senator is a big strike against him but back then who wasnt? Strong proponent of modernizing the USN after WW2, but very much a political animal and a man of the 50's left who could never be elected as a modern Democrat (See: Sam Nunn, Scoop Jackson etc).
Posted by: MD at May 17, 2011 03:58 PM (jmoS0)
No, both are decommissioned now. I was on the Saratoga for a few months in 1971.
Posted by: Vic at May 17, 2011 03:59 PM (M9Ie6)
USS Joan Baez - Motto - "Peace through Singing and Hoping and Dreaming"
If that's not butch enough for you, how about the USS Rachel Maddow?
Now one ship name I'd like to see is the USS Jack Nicholson.
His role in the "The Last Detail" always said "that's the real Navy" to me.
Posted by: Whitehall at May 17, 2011 04:02 PM (FmPSC)
Posted by: richard mcenroe at May 17, 2011 04:03 PM (tpz0h)
Posted by: richard mcenroe at May 17, 2011 04:06 PM (tpz0h)
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 17, 2011 04:14 PM (kUaEF)
Posted by: Tough US Immigration Policies at May 17, 2011 04:18 PM (x/4B/)
Wait....
Wait for it.....
USNS "Hanoi Jane" Fonda
Posted by: deMontjoie at May 17, 2011 04:27 PM (aJRWW)
The U.S.S. Charro.........Coochie Coochie!
Posted by: BruceTheRobert at May 17, 2011 04:41 PM (re6ik)
Well people seem to forget teh first aircraft carrier named after a president was the Midway class carrier Franklin Delano Roosevelt from WWII. You can thank the Democrats for this 'tradition.' Followed by naming an entire class of carriers after a deceased Secretary of the Navy named Forrestal.
WWII naming conventions were so common sense laden it was not funny. Now we got attack submarines named for cities[Los Angeles], states[Virgina], and one president[Jimmy Carter]. Cruisers used to be named for cities[Baltimore] but now are named after battles[Vincennes] and such. Only ship class still following WWII traditions are the tin-cans.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 17, 2011 05:19 PM (VgnC1)
I did a reserve weekend serving on the USS Samuel Gompers in the late 1980's.
I shit you not. No one was more surprised than me.
Posted by: torabora at May 17, 2011 05:22 PM (US+/e)
other than being a former Commander-in-Chief, what did Ronald Reagan have to do with the Navy?!?!?
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at May 17, 2011 06:37 PM (zb9qo)
He refitted it after it was Carterized.
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USS Hard On....station in San Franciso. Crew with the natives. Blue crew gay, Gold crew lesbos. Anchors aweigh! Haze grey and underway.
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Posted by: The Entire Crew of the USS Jimmy Carter at May 17, 2011 06:05 PM (QKKT0)
Winner!
Great comments, horrible decision by Navy, unless the ship is going to be used to stop illegals from sneaking in by sea.
Posted by: PJ at May 17, 2011 06:38 PM (tybhV)
They used to have a boomer named the Simon Bolivar.
And another one in the same class that was named the Casomir Pulaski.
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