May 02, 2011
— Ace Remember the CIA Contractor who was arrested by Pakistan police for the crime of defending himself against two thugs who either tried to rob him or were in fact Al Qaeda?
Well, Lahore is about four and a half hours away from Abbottabad. That's not close. However, this CIA unit was almost certainly deployed as part of the operation to find bin Ladin, and who knows, may have been tracking the couriers. Perhaps the couriers were found in Lahore, delivering messages to Al Qaeda in Lahore, then later followed back to Osama's Al Qaeda Headquarters.
Maybe?
Another thing that looks different in context is Obama's roast-speech at the Correspondent's dinner. He already had given the order to get bin Ladin. I don't know if he knew for a fact bin Ladin was there, but he knew there was a good chance.
It tends to explain a little of his cockiness. Also, a joke that is particularly pointed is at about 10:30 -- he's goofing on Trump for making a trivial decision about who to fire after a steak-oriented contest on The Apprentice. He snarks about the decision to fire "Little John, Meat Loaf, or Gary Busey," "These are the sorts of decisions that would keep me up at night." And then tosses in "Well-handled, Sir, well-handled."
The joke was funny then, but it's even more pointed now.
Oh, and of course-- pre-empting the Apprentice. I don't know about that one, if he timed the announcement to coincide with that show. If they had a confirmation, it's likely they would be announcing it shortly thereafter.
I'm guessing that compare-and-contrast was more of a bonus.
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Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 02, 2011 08:59 AM (zgZzy)
Posted by: © Sponge at May 02, 2011 09:00 AM (UK9cE)
"These are the sorts of decisions that would keep me up at night." And then tosses in "Well-handled, Sir, well-handled."
It was his decision to sleep on his stomach that kept him up last night...just sayin'.
Posted by: Michelle Obama's Landing Strip at May 02, 2011 09:00 AM (MVZ70)
Posted by: nevergiveup at May 02, 2011 09:01 AM (i6RpT)
Posted by: © Sponge at May 02, 2011 09:01 AM (UK9cE)
We should constantly remind our friends and family when they start to praise Obama about getting Osama that he was just doing his job as President. Then we need to make sure that we then follow up with comments on the high gas prices and high cost of everything in general.
If we don't start deflating this bubble now we might be looking at four more years of this scumbag.
Posted by: southdakotaboy at May 02, 2011 09:01 AM (TC4J/)
Even Osama bin Laden. Sarah Palin should watch her back. So should Trump.
Posted by: Jack at May 02, 2011 09:02 AM (kCT7A)
Posted by: Vic at May 02, 2011 09:02 AM (M9Ie6)
Nothing like idle unprovable speculation to pass the day away.
What is your point?
Posted by: carlito at May 02, 2011 01:00 PM (31lna)
The point? Who cares. What's yours?
Posted by: © Sponge at May 02, 2011 09:02 AM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Norah O'Donnell at May 02, 2011 09:02 AM (zgZzy)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 02, 2011 09:03 AM (+61wI)
Posted by: © Sponge at May 02, 2011 01:00 PM (UK9cE)
He's thinking: "Everyone of these 72 virgins look like, ugh, Helen Thomas".
Posted by: Soona at May 02, 2011 09:04 AM (IuhAq)
Posted by: George Tenet at May 02, 2011 09:04 AM (zgZzy)
Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2011 09:05 AM (TMB3S)
Posted by: Barry Obama at May 02, 2011 09:05 AM (zgZzy)
guess not, when an election is on the line.
Posted by: Jack at May 02, 2011 09:06 AM (kCT7A)
Posted by: SurferDoc at May 02, 2011 09:07 AM (PteUM)
Well, we all know what was going through his mind when he died.
Posted by: John P. Squibob at May 02, 2011 09:08 AM (/U/Mr)
Posted by: Mr Pink at May 02, 2011 09:09 AM (YAXjq)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 02, 2011 09:10 AM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Soona at May 02, 2011 09:10 AM (IuhAq)
Posted by: Barack "Seal Team 6 Leader" Obama at May 02, 2011 09:12 AM (YAXjq)
Posted by: Soona at May 02, 2011 01:10 PM (IuhAq)
I'm not watching her right now, but you won't be doing anything that I haven't already done 14 times in 27 different locations within the Fox News and MSNBC studios.
Posted by: © Sponge at May 02, 2011 09:13 AM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Charlie Gibson at May 02, 2011 09:13 AM (zgZzy)
Somewhere, a bunch of Hollyweird screenwriters are slumped over their cocaine and keyboards saying, "Fuck. I'll never be able to top that."
Posted by: sifty at May 02, 2011 09:13 AM (kUU1x)
Trump is a joke in comparison.
If I had just sent the SEALs in to get OBL, and the guy mocking me was hosting a game show, I'd laugh at him in a pointed fashion.
I hope future democrats are paying attention. Fighting America's enemies is a good thing. We like it. I hope Obama ramps up his approach to Iran. Unlikely, I guess. but our opponent to Obama has to be more serious than some idiot birther with a TV show.
Obama will bring serious credentials now. 4 years in the White House, OBL being killed, etc. 99% of his administration is a miserable failure, but if we don't nominate a heavy weight, we aren't going to beat him.
Posted by: Dustin at May 02, 2011 09:13 AM (Q3nWV)
BFD. If he was as cool as all the jackholes that defend this unprincipled fuckstick like to pretend he is, he's have kept that shit completely to himself. But he's not at all cool; he's a lowlife punk who regularly gets rolled by the likes of Putin. But I guess that's ok when he can act cocky in front of a bunch of fawning toadies, right?
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 02, 2011 09:15 AM (vEVry)
Nothing like idle unprovable speculation to pass the day away.
What is your point?
carlito, carlito, carlito...
Ace isn't espousing idle unproven speculation.
He's just asking questions. Just like Excitable Andi, the world's most famous un-trained, un-Board Certified gynecologist.
If you think its OK for Andi to ask questions, the so should Ace.
If you think it isn't OK for Ace to ask questions, then so shouldn't Andi.
Choose carlito.
Or STFU.
Posted by: John P. Squibob at May 02, 2011 09:15 AM (/U/Mr)
Posted by: kathleen at May 02, 2011 09:15 AM (pe+nj)
Obama just said this:
"As commander-in-chief, I could not be prouder of our men and women in uniform," the president said. "That is true now in today's wars, and it has been true in all of our wars and it is why we are here today."
Um, didn't he say that we were bombing innocent villages, during the election?
Posted by: momma at May 02, 2011 09:15 AM (penCf)
Could it be the same CJ lizard cocksucker?
Posted by: sickinmass at May 02, 2011 01:12 PM (1rflU)
I've never seen another one.
I don't blame anyone for wanting to see the pictures or the proof. The commander in chief gave a speech last night taking full credit for the entire operation and ordering the face to face killing of the asshole Osama (rest in pure hell, dickhead). This man has been lying to the American people for 3 + years now, so it's only natural to think that this calculated fuckbag needed a boost in his ratings to keep our eyes off the economy.
Posted by: © Sponge at May 02, 2011 09:16 AM (UK9cE)
His swinging dick got in the way.
Why did the Navy SEAL get a circumcision?
To keep his dick from touching the ground.
Posted by: Holger at May 02, 2011 09:16 AM (YxGud)
You turtle-lookin bag of pink taffeta scraps.
Democrat pinkos only love the "baby-killers" when they can use them and their work as props to get re-elected.
Posted by: sifty at May 02, 2011 09:16 AM (kUU1x)
Posted by: Waterhouse at May 02, 2011 09:17 AM (Hiaja)
Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2011 01:05 PM (TMB3S)
The how's and where's of the information trail matter not wingnut. It is only the fact that our dear glorious leader (pbuh) did what McChimpyHitler failed to do that matters. Just as the kudos never go to the crew that designed, supplied, and built the building, they go to the faceman that shows up to cut the opening day ribbon. On this swell of success, Obama will easily sail to victory in 2012 and will surpass RayGun's 525 electoral votes and 58.8% of the popular vote.
Posted by: I are a smrt progressive at May 02, 2011 09:17 AM (XBM1t)
Posted by: Uber-Commander Barry Soetero at May 02, 2011 09:18 AM (zgZzy)
I'm thinking that maybe OBL was not hiding in that compound as much as he was being kept there by the Pakis. Kind of like a house arrest. They had a prize and decided to turn him over when the price was right.
Posted by: Hammer at May 02, 2011 09:18 AM (hVGDL)
Posted by: Hammer at May 02, 2011 01:18 PM (hVGDL)
This is what will keep my up at night.
Posted by: Barbarian at May 02, 2011 09:20 AM (EL+OC)
Posted by: Crashpanic at May 02, 2011 09:20 AM (jFz45)
It's got nothing to do with anything else.
They're cheering President Brackets, not justice for the dead and grief-stricken.
Posted by: Warden at May 02, 2011 09:20 AM (fVIlG)
Posted by: booger at May 02, 2011 09:20 AM (9RFH1)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 02, 2011 09:20 AM (YAXjq)
Posted by: © Sponge at May 02, 2011 09:21 AM (UK9cE)
That pitchfork up my butt is hotter than fire that melts steel.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at May 02, 2011 09:21 AM (IXLvN)
Posted by: Prez B H O'Bumbles at May 02, 2011 09:22 AM (XBM1t)
I want the lefties that are saying that deWon got him when Bush couldn't to explain this. deWon is not going to get as much credit for this as everyone thinks.
Officials say CIA interrogators in secret overseas prisons developed the first strands of information that ultimately led to the killing of Osama bin Laden.
Current and former U.S. officials say that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, provided the nom de guerre of one of bin LadenÂ’s most trusted aides. The CIA got similar information from MohammedÂ’s successor, Abu Faraj al-Libi. Both were subjected to harsh interrogation tactics inside CIA prisons in Poland and Romania.
Posted by: Steph at May 02, 2011 09:22 AM (AkdC5)
Even Osama bin Laden. Sarah Palin should watch her back. So should Trump.
Posted by: Jack at May 02, 2011 01:02 PM (kCT7A)
Sarah has nothing to worry about... I'd worry about any hitman that took the contract... You'd wind up stuffed in the family room of the Palins...
Posted by: The Robot Devil at May 02, 2011 09:22 AM (LdYLm)
Why would Obama have been cocky Saturday night? He did not know whether the op was going to work or not, and he didn't know for sure that bin Laden was there. I would have been crapping my pants up there, I can tell you that.
Obama may have some thin skin about himself personally, but he showed me he has some big balls to have signed off on this op, on the heels of the tornado outbreak. Both of them could have sent his already bad approval ratings right off a cliff.
Posted by: rockmom at May 02, 2011 09:23 AM (Y01Pi)
Posted by: those sharks from the commercial at May 02, 2011 09:23 AM (IXLvN)
The Pakistanis knew where he was all along. They've been gaming us for billions of dollars.
Posted by: Mike Z. at May 02, 2011 09:24 AM (KWLxU)
Posted by: Osama bin Sinkin' at May 02, 2011 09:24 AM (GBXon)
53Man....where can I get a good deal on some shoes?
Posted by: © Sponge at May 02, 2011 01:21 PM (UK9cE)
Man, I just took a swing of pop when I read that.
Priceless.
mac :]
Posted by: macbrooks at May 02, 2011 09:25 AM (J+MD4)
Wondering why 72 Virginians keep giving it to him in the bunghole.
Posted by: Holger at May 02, 2011 09:27 AM (YxGud)
Posted by: kathleen at May 02, 2011 09:27 AM (pe+nj)
Posted by: © Sponge at May 02, 2011 09:29 AM (UK9cE)
He did not know whether the op was going to work or not.
Yeah, but you know he was salivating at the chance to announce that to the audience.
He might've had wood, who knows?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 02, 2011 09:30 AM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 02, 2011 01:03 PM (+61wI)
Geez Jeff
Reading your comments while eating is becoming kinda dangerous - I nearly choked to death.
Posted by: Roadking at May 02, 2011 09:31 AM (quUhk)
I'm with Monty, no conspiracy theories needed. The POTUS simply decided to do his job, and he was surrounded by professionals who helped him do it.
There's a first time for everything, you know.
Posted by: rockmom at May 02, 2011 09:31 AM (Y01Pi)
but he showed me he has some big balls to have signed off on this op, on the heels of the tornado outbreak. Both of them could have sent his already bad approval ratings right off a cliff.
Posted by: rockmom at May 02, 2011 01:23 PM (Y01Pi)
Jeebus. Why does everyone think this was a hard choice for him? Do you not understand the man's complete narcissism, and his total disregard for the military? He didn't give a shit if this went bad. He made the right decision only because he thought it was the best decision for himself, and how great he thought it would make him look if it went right.
This is why it wasn't a hard decision for him.
Several dozen JSOC operatives have died in Pakistan over the past several years. Their names are released by the Defense Department in the usual manner, but with a cover story — generally, they were killed in training accidents in eastern Afghanistan. That’s the code…
That's what deWon would have depended on if things had gone bad. Get it, now?
Yeah, he did the right thing, but it wasn't a hard choice to make.
Posted by: Steph at May 02, 2011 09:32 AM (AkdC5)
Posted by: © Sponge at May 02, 2011 09:34 AM (UK9cE)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at May 02, 2011 09:34 AM (LdYLm)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at May 02, 2011 01:34 PM (LdYLm)
Not in the military...they use 24hour time. That narrows it down a bit.
Posted by: © Sponge at May 02, 2011 09:36 AM (UK9cE)
Posted by: kathleen at May 02, 2011 09:38 AM (pe+nj)
JEF just figured it out, what do you expect from the AA President...
Posted by: Pre-9/11 Ron Silver at May 02, 2011 09:39 AM (LdYLm)
Posted by: kathleen at May 02, 2011 09:40 AM (pe+nj)
"Injun will chase a thing till he thinks he's chased it enough. Then he quits. Same way when he runs. Seems like he never learns there's such a thing as a critter who'll just keep comin' on. So we'll find 'em in the end, I promise you. We'll find 'em, just as sure as the turnin' of the earth." John Wayne as Ethan Edwards "The Searcher"
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes... at May 02, 2011 09:42 AM (oiG2m)
Geez, the barbed cock of Satan is really huge!
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at May 02, 2011 01:43 PM (1hM1d)
And I Love IT! C'mon down Barney!
Posted by: Osama Bin Rotten at May 02, 2011 09:44 AM (LdYLm)
So we shot him in the face and dumped the body in the ocean a few hours later....huh?
Yeah. I believe we killed the goat-fucking SOB, but dumping him in the ocean seems a little, you know............
Posted by: Soona at May 02, 2011 09:49 AM (IuhAq)
Posted by: Fritz at May 02, 2011 10:54 AM (AN8d5)
Posted by: kd iver at May 02, 2011 11:01 AM (L4CWX)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 02, 2011 11:28 AM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 02, 2011 11:32 AM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: PJ at May 02, 2011 11:41 AM (XUYpl)
No, it wasn't funny then or now. This guy's about as funny as The Clap. And he knew he would make the announcement on Bin Laden's death the very next night, and media would be entirely focused on that for weeks- thus denying Trump the chance to swing back. What a gutless piece of trash that Soetoro is. And he could have waited till morning to hold the presser- the fact that he chose to interrupt Trump's program should say something about these people.
This nation is facing a serious existential threat- and it's not coming from outside our borders, or from Donald Trump.
Posted by: sartana at May 02, 2011 12:11 PM (7Xm5b)
"These are the sorts of decisions that would keep me up at night."
Actually, that's not really a joke - it's a Freudian slip. Little, trivial, BS decisions like Bam described do keep him up at night. And his answer is always the same - read the polls, flip, then flop, then flip again. Maybe another flop after that. read the polls, flip . . . ad nauseam.
The audacity of this dope - taking credit for a decision that was based entirely upon defense programs and the military that he constantly attacked, criticized and tried to dismantle all before he was the leader of the free world. The information gleaned by the interrogations allowed under Bush set this up. If Nobama 2008 had been the president then, we would never have had the go ahead to interrogate in the first place.
Osama would still be licking up the hospitality of our pseudo-ally Pakistan.
How can you be proud of that? This was the US military doing what it does best - protecting the citizens of this country.
Posted by: MWTexas at May 02, 2011 01:37 PM (N05oL)
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I wonder what George Tenet is thinking right now.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2011 08:59 AM (uFokq)