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May 11, 2011

White House: It Depends On The Meaning of "Directly"
— Ace

So sayeth the country's Spin Machine in DC, regarding the question of whether information gathered by enhanced interrogation led to the kill of Usama bin Ladin.

A former counterintelligence head directly connected with interrogating al-Libbi and KSM says the information did lead to Usama bin Ladin.

A White House flack says that information did not directly lead to Usama bin Ladin.

Jose Rodriguez ran the CIAÂ’s Counterterrorism Center from 2002 to 2005, the period when top al-Qaeda leaders Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (KSM) and Abu Faraj al-Libbi were taken into custody and subjected to Â“enhanced interrogation techniquesÂ” (EITs) at secret prisons overseas. KSM was subjected to waterboarding, sleep deprivation and other techniques. Al-Libbi was not waterboarded, but other EITs were used on him.
Â“Information provided by KSM and Abu Faraj al-Libbi about bin LadenÂ’s courier was the lead information that eventually led to the location of [bin LadenÂ’s] compound and the operation that led to his death,Â” Rodriguez tells TIME in his first public interview. Rodriguez was cleared of charges in the video-destruction investigation last year.
RodriguezÂ’s assertion drew criticism from the White House. Â“There is no way that information obtained by [EITs] was the decisive intelligence that led us directly to bin Laden,Â” says National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor. Â“It took years of collection and analysis from many different sources to develop the case that enabled us to identify this compound and reach a judgment that bin Laden was likely to be living there.Â”

Note the misleadingly off-topic nature of the denial. One man says the information led to bin Ladin; another man injects the qualifier "directly" into the discussion, and offers a denial of something Rodriguez didn't say.

Rodriguez didn't say the information led directly to Usama. What he's saying is that from the EIT's, the name of the courier was learned. And later, when the courier was finally found, that courier led to bin Ladin.

The flack adds the word "directly" to this statement, and then denies that it led directly there.

Liberals are fond of this technique of denying that which is not asserted, the denial resting upon a misleading speicific qualifier, and denying it in such a fashion as to suggest a broader denial, which the media happily repeats.

The fact is that Saddam Hussein offered bin Ladin sanctuary in Iraq. This is uncontrovertible. In the liberals'/media's telling, however, the key fact becomes "Usama bin Ladin never took sanctuary in Iraq."

Why no, he did not. He got a better offer from the Taliban. But we weren't talking about whose generous offer UBL decided to take; we were talking simply about whether Saddam had made the offer.

By endlessly repeating the part of it they want to repeat -- UBL didn't go to Iraq -- they create, with the media's assistance, the belief that Hussein never made the offer.

But he did.

Similarly, now they are going to go all-in on this "directly" denial.

It is true that if I buy a car, that car does not lead "directly" to, say, a road trip to another city. There are intervening decisions here, also critical. But the purchase of the car is necessary for the ultimate outcome of my going on a road trip.

Without the courier's name, there is no kill of UBL. That is the fact.

Cheap obfuscations of this fact by paid liars and reality-benders -- which is what spokesmen are -- does not change that fact.

Posted by: Ace at 08:29 AM | Comments (139)
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1 Obama and his minions lie. That is just normal. Now id the press would actually report it that would be real news.

Posted by: Vic at May 11, 2011 08:32 AM (M9Ie6)

Killing is directly* related to enhanced interrogation.

* the words, is and directly, are open to different interpretations.

Posted by: madamex at May 11, 2011 08:33 AM (ice9D)

3 Ah so it seems that all the lefties are adopting the Alan Colmes Corpse's way of answering the question as to whether enhanced interrogation led to the capture. And that answer is of course to merely scream NU HUH!!!1!!1!!

Posted by: laceyunderalls at May 11, 2011 08:34 AM (pLTLS)

4 The only to get any truth out of this administration is to waterboard the lot of them.

Posted by: maddogg at May 11, 2011 08:35 AM (OlN4e)

5 EITs are bad but KITs (Kinetic Interrogation Techniques) Like I used on Bin Laden are good. Now STFU and pay your taxes.

Posted by: Barry the Kinetic Prez at May 11, 2011 08:35 AM (tf9Ne)

6 Let me be clear, a laser aiming device did not directly kill UBL.

Posted by: Marcus at May 11, 2011 08:36 AM (CHrmZ)

7 So a crew of cocksucking liars could be misleading us? The deuce you say!

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 11, 2011 08:37 AM (wX23+)

8 Let me be clear, a laser aiming device did not directly kill UBL.

But it did give the kill direction.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at May 11, 2011 08:38 AM (tf9Ne)

9 I no longer believe anything they say, even about the weather. Especially the weather, when I think about global warming and other schemes.

If you have to dissect the meaning of every common word in his speeches, he is lying.

Grumble, grumble.

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 11, 2011 08:40 AM (Fo83G)

10 Let me be clear. Obama can directly suck it.

Posted by: Seal Team 6 at May 11, 2011 08:40 AM (p3iiO)

11 Never fear; we're strongly contemplating a strongly worded letter on this. Maybe with an exclamation point. Now please send our candidates money if you want more of this decisive activity.

Posted by: The GOP at May 11, 2011 08:42 AM (wX23+)

12 Don't you love Ivy League debate? Obscure instead of illuminate. Methinks this is the basic problem with higher education. The faculty lounge is too busy defending their "established truths" to be bothered with true investigation. Why was tenure established? To permit brave and unfettered investigation into established truth? As Captain Hate says: "The deuce you say!"

Posted by: Goober at May 11, 2011 08:42 AM (Q5+Og)

13 Every time a spokesman for this administration says something, a strawman is burned.

Posted by: DrewM. at May 11, 2011 08:43 AM (sPao2)

14 If you have to dissect the meaning of every common word in his speeches, he is lying.

It's one of three things with him when he talks:

1. an outright lie
2. an omission of the truth
3. a wildly inappropriate remark/joke that fell flat

And that even goes for his prepared remarks (which demonstrates what we've been saying all along - that he has a bunch of juvenile delinquents running the show). But just remember.....the folks at MSNBC keep on keeping on with the idea that we should make room for him on Mt. Rushmore.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at May 11, 2011 08:43 AM (pLTLS)

15 Directing my web browser to an Internet porn site did not directly lead to me ejaculating on my dog.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 11, 2011 08:44 AM (SY2Kh)

16 Â“It took years of collection and analysis from many different sources to develop the case that enabled us to identify this compound and reach a judgment that bin Laden was likely to be living there.Â”

And we would STILL be collecting and analyzing if it wasn't for the KEY PIECES of information that were obtained from enhanced interrogations.

Posted by: Nighthawk at May 11, 2011 08:45 AM (OtQXp)

17 It is true that if I buy a car, that car does not lead "directly" to, say, a road trip to another city. There are intervening decisions here, also critical. But the purchase of the car is necessary for the ultimate outcome of my going on a road trip.

Wait, is this a discussion of proximate cause?

Posted by: ashowalt at May 11, 2011 08:45 AM (QojlK)

18 Need I point out my previous work with the word "is"?

Posted by: Bill Clinton at May 11, 2011 08:46 AM (FcR7P)

19 Waterboarding didn't directly do any harm. Shooting Usama in the head directly killed him.

Posted by: dagny at May 11, 2011 08:46 AM (23y25)

20 Losing a majority of the 2012 vote will directly lead to Obama's retirement.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at May 11, 2011 08:46 AM (71LDo)

21 I'm still trying to find out which politician recommended moats with alligators for border security so I can send him some money. This Sparky fellow really believes Americans are infantile morons. I wonder where he formed this opinion?

Posted by: Goober at May 11, 2011 08:47 AM (Q5+Og)

22 I fully expect the GOP to send a reality-torpedo right up the poop shoot of the Regime.

Posted by: Barbarian at May 11, 2011 08:47 AM (EL+OC)

23 Directly? I inherited that information!

Posted by: Barry O'Parsing at May 11, 2011 08:47 AM (FcR7P)

24 Losing a majority of the 2012 vote will directly lead to Obama's retirement.

Having never actually worked an honest day in his life

Posted by: dfbaskwill at May 11, 2011 08:48 AM (71LDo)

Proper moral imagineering requires a willing suspension of causality.

-Duh!

Posted by: garrett at May 11, 2011 08:49 AM (gDNQt)

26 Fuck 'em all, let 2012 clean 'em out.

Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at May 11, 2011 08:49 AM (6IReR)

27 25 Losing a majority of the 2012 vote will directly lead to Obama's retirement.

Nah. It'll just free him up to be douchebag emperor of the UN global environ green communist committee/terror squad.

Posted by: dagny at May 11, 2011 08:50 AM (23y25)

Ace: The fact is that Saddam Hussein offered bin Ladin sanctuary in Iraq. This is uncontrovertible.

Could somebody please provide some links or back ground on ace's statement that it is incontorvertiable that Iraq/Hussein offered bin Laden sanctuary?

That would be shaedenboneriffic.

Thanks.

Posted by: ed at May 11, 2011 08:51 AM (Y2WVW)

29 If there is anything we've learned from all this, it's to accept news from the administration in an unquestioning manner. Skepticism is unwarranted and a waste of energy that could be more productively dedicated to the fair treatment of undocumented immigrants.

Posted by: Ted Kennedy's Gristle Encased Head at May 11, 2011 08:51 AM (+lsX1)

30 It's as if Sparky has never been dealt with as an adult. He is like some protected little trust funder in pretend land 24/7. Amazing.

Posted by: Goober at May 11, 2011 08:51 AM (Q5+Og)

31 What's wrong with moats with alligators except that they should be crocs not alligators?

Posted by: dagny at May 11, 2011 08:51 AM (23y25)

32 If Obama and Holder had the courage of their convictions, they would have ordered all intelligence derived from enhanced interrogation destroyed as "fruit of the poisoned tree.". They didn't. That brings up two questions: 1) If they had done, would the search for Osama been successful, starting over without using any info from KSM or al-Libi? 2) Since they continued to use info gained by means they themselves say were unlawful, doesn't that make them accessories after the fact to whatever crimes they accuse the interrogators of?

Posted by: stuiec at May 11, 2011 08:52 AM (Dr8Q5)

16 Directing my web browser to an Internet porn site did not directly lead to me ejaculating on my dog.

As concise of a description of the ace 'o spades lifestyle as I have ever read.

Well done, sir. Well done indeed.

Posted by: ed at May 11, 2011 08:53 AM (Y2WVW)

34 32 What's wrong with moats with alligators except that they should be crocs not alligators?

ahem

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Moats n Gators franchise owner at May 11, 2011 08:53 AM (UOM48)

35 Having never actually worked an honest day in his life

One wonders what the retirement pay for a President who serves 4 years.

Under the Former Presidents Act, each former president is paid a lifetime, taxable pension that is equal to the annual rate of basic pay for the head of an executive federal department -- $199,700 in 2011

Plus other bennies. What a racket

Posted by: Vic at May 11, 2011 08:53 AM (M9Ie6)

36 32 What's wrong with moats with alligators except that they should be crocs not alligators? Posted by: dagny at May 11, 2011 12:51 PM (23y25) Water moccasins, say I.

Posted by: stuiec at May 11, 2011 08:53 AM (Dr8Q5)

37 holder = obama with a stache. Funking clown

Posted by: Jackhole at May 11, 2011 08:54 AM (+qHxi)

38 Its like the AP poll today lying about 60% approval ratings. I rather talk about why they are lying rather than the lie. They are lying to help Democrats, because they are all Democrats, leftists, whatever the fuck they wanna call themself.

Posted by: Mr Pink at May 11, 2011 08:54 AM (YCzaP)

39 37 32 What's wrong with moats with alligators except that they should be crocs not alligators?
Posted by: dagny at May 11, 2011 12:51 PM (23y25)

Water moccasins, say I.

Water moccasins are a delicacy to gators. That, and unleashed dogs and unwary kittehs.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Moats n Gators franchise owner at May 11, 2011 08:54 AM (UOM48)

40
.... ask me about having cake and eating it too.

Posted by: Zombie Marie Antoinette at May 11, 2011 08:55 AM (C8hzL)

41 Anything to make sure Boooooosh gets no credit, huh Barky? But yeah, paint GWB as an asshole because he didn't hold hands with you at Ground Zero last week.

Bint.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 11, 2011 08:55 AM (ZA4vv)

42 We could probably make a whole long list of vermin from "river monsters" and "shark fest" and fill the moat with those. Add a reality tv show and "moat world" and it would pay for itself.

Posted by: dagny at May 11, 2011 08:55 AM (23y25)

Posted by: ed at May 11, 2011 12:51 PM (Y2WVW)

Try these for starters:

Saddam Hussein Offered Osama Bin Laden Sanctuary (CNN story is a dead link though).

Bin Laden and Iraq

Case Closed

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 11, 2011 08:56 AM (9hSKh)

44 Wonder if Captain Gutsy bothered to look out a window on AF One at the Mississippi flooding?

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Moats n Gators franchise owner at May 11, 2011 08:56 AM (UOM48)

45 Could australia part with 50 saltwater crocs? We could figure out a way to salinate the moat.

Posted by: dagny at May 11, 2011 08:57 AM (23y25)

46 41
.... ask me about having cake and eating it too.

Posted by: Zombie Marie Antoinette at May 11, 2011 12:55 PM (C8hzL)

Funny thing about that statement. Bread was taxed - cake was not, in France pre-head lobbing off.

Posted by: The Robot Devil at May 11, 2011 08:57 AM (LdYLm)

47 Jane, "Moats 'n Gators" is the funniest thing I've read all day!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 11, 2011 08:57 AM (ZA4vv)

48 32 What's wrong with moats with alligators except that they should be crocs not alligators? You know you are talking about Sparky's fevered imagination and not reality? Its always good to have a Pres--ent that imagines wild, childish things to be true and characterizes his opponents as subhuman evil doers. It really puts a soul at ease knowing Eddie Haskel has everything under control. Or should I have referenced Pol Pot?

Posted by: Goober at May 11, 2011 08:57 AM (Q5+Og)

Is Zero moving toward another middle east war he has no intention of prosecuting?

Do the FUBARs never end?

Posted by: maddogg at May 11, 2011 08:59 AM (OlN4e)

50 SEAL Team 6 was only 'indirectly' involved in killing Bin Laden. Glorious Leader did it with his bare hands.

Posted by: The MFM at May 11, 2011 09:00 AM (FkKjr)

51 So, using their own standards,

Obama Wasn't DIRECTLY responsible for killing OBL. That honor lies on with the awesome member of Seal Team 6.

Posted by: momma at May 11, 2011 09:00 AM (penCf)

52 Michelle Obama is only "indirectly" fat. But she is directly a racist idiot.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 11, 2011 09:01 AM (ZA4vv)

53 What's wrong with moats with alligators

How are the gorillas supposed to reach the figs if there are moats with alligators blocking them?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 11, 2011 09:01 AM (FkKjr)

54 Does this mean Sparky was not directly responsible for his election?

Posted by: Goober at May 11, 2011 09:01 AM (Q5+Og)

Is Zero moving toward another middle east war he has no intention of prosecuting?

Do the FUBARs never end?

Well who wouldn't do that? After the successes in Libya and Egypt, Obama is on a roll...

I don't need a sarc tag do I ?

Posted by: Donna at May 11, 2011 09:02 AM (bdE9c)

56 I love it when Michele leads from behind.

Posted by: Barack H. Obama at May 11, 2011 09:02 AM (gDNQt)

You know you are talking about Sparky's fevered imagination and not reality?

Yeah no shit.

I like to take that academic babble and insult to the farthest extreme. "Next you'll want moats 'n gators"....."Ok, will that stop the fucking illegal invasion you stupid douchebag, then yes, I do want moats 'n gators, if that will stop illegals from raping our economy and posing a public safty and health risk, and I don't give a shit if they are reptile food in the process."

Posted by: dagny at May 11, 2011 09:02 AM (23y25)

58 The problem with EIT is that, sooner or later, those techniques are going to be adopted by the IRS.

Posted by: mongo78 at May 11, 2011 09:03 AM (2b46R)

>>>The flack adds the word "directly" to this statement, and then denies that it led directly there.

Nice point Ace, but knowing them to be liars, instead of parsing their words I'd rather speculate on their facial expressions if their heads were abruptly wrenched around backwards.

Posted by: ontherocks at May 11, 2011 09:03 AM (HBqDo)

60 yesterday, I was naked while hiding the salami with my huge multi-talented Negro boyfriend / personal trainer / whatever

( he was naked, too; don't tell Dad )

Posted by: Megan McFattie at May 11, 2011 09:03 AM (UqKQV)

61 Does this mean Captain Gutsy was not directly responsible for the umbrella not making it through the garden gate?

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Moats n Gators franchise owner at May 11, 2011 09:04 AM (UOM48)

62 Any one want to hazard a guess as to what cause Ace would do a nude PSA for???

Posted by: Tough US Immigration Policies at May 11, 2011 09:04 AM (x/4B/)

63 SEAL Team Six, Apply directly to the forehead!

Posted by: JackStraw at May 11, 2011 09:04 AM (TMB3S)

64 Does this mean Sparky was not directly responsible for his election?

Posted by: Goober

Of course not. He had me!

Posted by: VP Choo-choo Biden at May 11, 2011 09:04 AM (326rv)

65

64. Valu-rite and hobo jerky??????

Posted by: fixerupper at May 11, 2011 09:05 AM (C8hzL)

66 Does this mean Captain Gutsy was not directly responsible for the umbrella not making it through the garden gate?

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Moats n Gators franchise owner

Please. I had the zone covered.

Posted by: garden gate at May 11, 2011 09:05 AM (326rv)

67 Listen you wingnuts - waterboarding and Navy SEALS don't kill terrorists... sharply-creased trousers and gutsy calls kill terrorists!

Posted by: Your Betters in the MSM at May 11, 2011 09:05 AM (BaQuW)

68 It's not even hit or miss anymore, my italics have apparently left the country, probably for New Zealand.

Posted by: ontherocks at May 11, 2011 09:06 AM (HBqDo)

69 Any one want to hazard a guess as to what cause Ace would do a nude PSA for???

Ewok Rights?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 11, 2011 09:06 AM (ZA4vv)

hazard a guess as to what cause Ace would do a nude PSA for???

Matt Damon!

Posted by: Matt Damon at May 11, 2011 09:06 AM (gDNQt)

71 Any one want to hazard a guess as to what cause Ace would do a nude PSA for???

The hairy-back impaired?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 11, 2011 09:07 AM (ZA4vv)

Any one want to hazard a guess as to what cause Ace would do a nude PSA for???

PETA

Posted by: garden gate at May 11, 2011 09:07 AM (Gzv/o)

Moats 'n' Gators is good.

Tits 'n' ass is better.....

Posted by: maddogg at May 11, 2011 09:08 AM (OlN4e)

Any one want to hazard a guess as to what cause Ace would do a nude PSA for???

Jagermeister or Captain Morgan.

Posted by: garden gate at May 11, 2011 09:08 AM (Gzv/o)

75 Not putting the lotion in the basket won't lead directly to getting the hose again, but it will greatly increase the odds.

Posted by: Buffalo Bill at May 11, 2011 09:08 AM (YCzaP)

hazard a guess as to what cause Ace would do a nude PSA for???

Women's Rights!

Posted by: Ann Althouse at May 11, 2011 09:08 AM (gDNQt)

77 We've been run amok.

Posted by: toby928™ at May 11, 2011 09:08 AM (GTbGH)

78 Tits 'n' ass is better.....

So is Boats n' Hos

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 11, 2011 09:08 AM (ZA4vv)

79 Mexican food gives me the winds.

Posted by: Hungry Gator at May 11, 2011 09:09 AM (EL+OC)

80 The GHB martinis I plan to serve Kat Denning will not directly lead to her photospread on www.nipplebandits.com.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 11, 2011 09:09 AM (FI38b)

Any one want to hazard a guess as to what cause Ace would do a nude PSA for???

There are some things, I would just not care to speculate on.....

Posted by: maddogg at May 11, 2011 09:09 AM (OlN4e)

hazard a guess as to what cause Ace would do a nude PSA for???

Anything we tell him to.

Posted by: the Sikh at May 11, 2011 09:10 AM (gDNQt)

83 68 Does this mean Captain Gutsy was not directly responsible for the umbrella not making it through the garden gate?

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Moats n Gators franchise owner

Please. I had the zone covered.

Maybe we need to detail SEAL Team 6 to cover Sparky's daily movements. Since the entire WH staff is busy feeding TOTUS someone needs to manage teh WON's physical safety.

Posted by: Goober at May 11, 2011 09:10 AM (Q5+Og)

84 Senate Dems re-introduce DREAM Act

But Democratic leaders are trying again, saying that passage of the bill is Â“a matter of justiceÂ” that would bolster the U.S. economy, help educate more young Americans, and swell the ranks of the armed forces.

"Instead of kicking out of our country people who are educated, want to become educated, be productive members of our society, we should let them work," Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said at a press conference to tout the proposed bill.

(The funniest part: - momma):

Democratic lawmakers highlighted provisions in the legislation that would prevent ineligible candidates from committing fraud and would disqualify individuals who have committed a criminal felony or more than two misdemeanors. The bill also requires applicants to prove that they have "good moral character" as determined by immigration agents.

....

Cuz everyone knows the Dems and all the assfucks in the WH 'have good moral character'.

Posted by: momma at May 11, 2011 09:10 AM (penCf)

85 82 The GHB martinis I plan to serve Kat Denning will not directly lead to her photospread on www.nipplebandits.com.

Her cans are real, and they're spectacular!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 11, 2011 09:10 AM (ZA4vv)

86 Finishing all my bubble gum won't directly lead to me kicking ass.

Posted by: Rowdy Roddy Piper at May 11, 2011 09:10 AM (YCzaP)

87 Clone Sharktopus.. Then fill the moat with those..

Posted by: Dave C at May 11, 2011 09:12 AM (Kggtu)

88 Taking my gun will not directly lead to taking my money.

Posted by: Denzel Washington in Training Day at May 11, 2011 09:12 AM (ZA4vv)

89 Topically related - I've already closed that browser down but I thought I saw a book on Drudge being advertised about SEALs Team 6. How is that possible? I think I read that wrong. Did anyone else see that?

Posted by: laceyunderalls at May 11, 2011 09:12 AM (pLTLS)

Familes United Concerning Kinkyness Or Foul Frases

Posted by: Ct potential Morons at May 11, 2011 09:12 AM (Gzv/o)

91 Gee, with all the lawyers in this administration, you'd think one of them would have heard of the "fruit of the poisoned tree" doctrine.

Posted by: AmishDude at May 11, 2011 09:12 AM (T0NGe)

92 I am no fan of lying liars, but.... We do NOT know that the whole track down the courier thing is true. Could be that the Pakistanis rolled over on UBL. Or Zawahiri. Or maybe the missing son, or the wives... The courier tracking thing could have been a cover story or lie or simply misinformation.

Posted by: blaster at May 11, 2011 09:13 AM (Fw2Gg)

93 Leaving the gun will not directly allow you to leave with the cannoli.

Posted by: Michael Corleone at May 11, 2011 09:13 AM (ZA4vv)

90 Taking my gun will not directly lead to taking my money.

Nor will it prevent the Russkies from turning you into a sieve...

Posted by: maddogg at May 11, 2011 09:14 AM (OlN4e)

So to qualify, you have to prove you are felon but not a felon-felon? And then you get roughly $200K of free education? Sweet.

Posted by: Goober at May 11, 2011 09:14 AM (Q5+Og)

96 In 1999, Saddam Hussein offered Osama Bin Laden sanctuary after his bombings of the embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.

Posted by: AmishDude at May 11, 2011 09:15 AM (T0NGe)

97 91 Topically related - I've already closed that browser down but I thought I saw a book on Drudge being advertised about SEALs Team 6. How is that possible? I think I read that wrong. Did anyone else see that?

Hugh Hewitt, I think, had the author on last night. It's an e-book, and he wrote it in a matter of days.

Posted by: Michael Corleone at May 11, 2011 09:15 AM (ZA4vv)

98 What? Val-u-Rite and aging tranny hookers don't need naked Ace loving, too?????

Posted by: Tough US Immigration Policies at May 11, 2011 09:15 AM (x/4B/)

Let me be clear, a laser aiming device did not directly kill UBL.

>>But it did give the kill direction.

Enhanced bullet trajectory?

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 11, 2011 09:16 AM (XdlcF)

100 Kneeling on my knees, naked, with my mouth open when hubby gets out of the shower, didn't directly lead to him taking a nap after 10 mins 5 mins 1 mins 15 seconds

Posted by: momma at May 11, 2011 09:16 AM (penCf)

101

Seal Team Twix? I love those guys!

Posted by: Meggy Mac at May 11, 2011 09:17 AM (xMT+4)

102 Are the liberals in the media finished fellating His Awesomeness yet? I haven't turned on CNN, ABC news, NBC news, or CBS news since the whacking of Obama bin Laden, because frankly, watching all these serious journalists give the pres a bj just isn't my idea of great porn. Really, it's even more offensive than that McCain trollop on a PSA.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 11, 2011 09:17 AM (1ckSh)

103

Posted by: momma at May 11, 2011 01:16 PM (penCf)

Oh! momma!

Posted by: maddogg at May 11, 2011 09:17 AM (OlN4e)

104 Whatever Sparky is doing is working. AP has him with 60% Approval Rating. I wonder if this is directly related to moats and gators?

Posted by: Goober at May 11, 2011 09:18 AM (Q5+Og)

105 Under the Former Presidents Act, each former president is paid a lifetime, taxable pension that is equal to the annual rate of basic pay for the head of an executive federal department -- $199,700 in 2011

Plus other bennies. What a racket

Posted by: Vic at May 11, 2011 12:53 PM (M9Ie6)

It should be noted that this wasn't enough for Bill Clinton.

I think that Obama will not set foot in America again if he's turned out in 2012. Michelle will divorce him and keep the kids. He'll travel around Europe and the Middle East giving $1M speeches and serving on boards, etc.

Posted by: AmishDude at May 11, 2011 09:18 AM (T0NGe)

106

1. And if they didn't qualify, would all the guff about justice, fairness and seperating families go out the door? Or would they stay? If the answer isn't "fuck, yeah, they're gone", then this is yet another attempt at pandering.

2. The investigations will be conducted by the same pack of geniuses that screen TSA employees.

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 11, 2011 09:19 AM (326rv)

107

Posted by: AmishDude at May 11, 2011 01:18 PM (T0NGe)

And doing every metro-sexual that he can get his hands on...

Posted by: The Robot Devil at May 11, 2011 09:19 AM (LdYLm)

108

Investigations and prosecutions of CIA interrogators will continue. This is America, dammit. My hit on Bin Laden notwithstanding. You're welcome.

Posted by: Preznit Barry at May 11, 2011 09:20 AM (K/USr)

109 102 Kneeling on my knees, naked, with my mouth open when hubby gets out of the shower, didn't directly lead to him taking a nap after 10 mins 5 mins 1 mins 15 seconds

That's hot.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 11, 2011 09:20 AM (ZA4vv)

110 He'll travel around Europe and the Middle East giving $1M speeches and serving on boards, giving backrubs in bathhouses, hoovering all the blow he can get his hands on and swearing to one day return to his rightful throne...

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 11, 2011 09:20 AM (xMT+4)

111 @ momma, Dude's got stamina. Does he take supplements or something?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 11, 2011 09:20 AM (FI38b)

112

93 Gee, with all the lawyers in this administration, you'd think one of them would have heard of the "fruit of the poisoned tree" doctrine.

Oh, you bitter clingers don't need to worry about those silly old legal details - Democrat-appointed activist judges will make sure all that technical stuff doesn't slow down the progressive policies Obama will implement for you - that's what they are for.

Posted by: Your Betters in the MSM at May 11, 2011 09:21 AM (BaQuW)

113 Dude's got stamina. Does he take supplements or something?

Of course he does. And then she gets to take them in a processed form IYKWIMAITYD.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 11, 2011 09:22 AM (9hSKh)

114 >>Posted by: momma at May 11, 2011 01:16 PM (penCf)

That's a sad story. I'd check the HVAC duct work for a carbon monoxide leak or a hidden bimbo.

Posted by: ontherocks at May 11, 2011 09:25 AM (HBqDo)

115 Reading momma's post did not directly send morons to their bunks.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at May 11, 2011 09:28 AM (tf9Ne)

116 Oh hell you guys. Great stuff. I just about peed my pants laughing so hard.

Posted by: momma at May 11, 2011 09:29 AM (penCf)

117 It directly led to some inappropriate semi-wood at the office.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 11, 2011 09:31 AM (FI38b)

118

Kneeling on my knees

Ok, i give up?

Posted by: dagny at May 11, 2011 09:31 AM (23y25)

119
Sounds like this guy took some pointers from Nathan Thurm.

http://tinyurl.com/c9jxv6

I'm not defensive, you're the one who is being defensive.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz at May 11, 2011 09:33 AM (tcSZb)

120

>>Kneeling on my knees

>>Ok, i give up?

Both are known to work equally well.

Posted by: ontherocks at May 11, 2011 09:36 AM (HBqDo)

121 >>It directly led to some inappropriate semi-wood at the office.

I got a really bad veneer one time, fucking excruciating.

True story

Posted by: Droopy Joe Biden at May 11, 2011 09:38 AM (HBqDo)

122 It directly led to some inappropriate semi-wood at the office.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 11, 2011 01:31 PM (FI38b)

stand at full salute and you might get a raise (if your boss is a gal or Barney Frank)

Posted by: momma at May 11, 2011 09:41 AM (penCf)

123 Of course he does. And then she gets to take them in a processed form IYKWIMAITYD.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 11, 2011 01:22 PM (9hSKh)

My hubby always tells me his protein shake is awesome for colds, flus, headaches, backaches.......

Posted by: momma at May 11, 2011 09:43 AM (penCf)

124

Hey, Doh!bamma.

Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass Go. Do not collect two hundred dollars.

Posted by: Monacled guy with the top hat. at May 11, 2011 09:46 AM (19OIz)

125

My hubby always tells me his protein shake is awesome for colds, flus, headaches, backaches.......

Posted by: momma at May 11, 2011 01:43 PM (penCf)

It's science!

Posted by: AmishDude at May 11, 2011 09:46 AM (T0NGe)

126 Stand at full salute and you might get a raise (if your boss is a gal or Barney Frank) Nobody noticed. It's like a stack of dimes, 30 cents tall.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 11, 2011 09:46 AM (FI38b)

127 Nobody noticed. It's like a stack of dimes, 30 cents tall.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 11, 2011 01:46 PM (FI38b)

So, you're just a well hung chick?

I keed! I keed!

Posted by: momma at May 11, 2011 09:52 AM (penCf)

128

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette felt this letter was worthy of running today. How many Democrats say Bush allowed the 9/11 attacks to happen? A plurality...35% you say?

But let's spend another two years fretting about what doubts over Obama's birth certificate mean to the future of the Republic...

Tora Bora escape

Much has been made of Osama bin Laden's impossible escape in the Tora Bora mountains in December 2001.

President George W. Bush seemed to have made a half-hearted effort to catch him at that time. Had he captured bin Laden at that time, it would be much harder to convince the American public of the need to invade Iraq a year and a half later.

There are many conspiracy theories floating around; this one seems totally plausible.

TOM HUTCHISON
Braddock Hills

Posted by: CJ at May 11, 2011 09:53 AM (9KqcB)

129 We should rename Obama-Scarecrow. Like from The Wizard of Oz. He is a strawman, and he has no brain. Actually, he could be the whole cast, like the Cowardly Lion, he is not brave. Like the Tinman, he has no heart. And like Dorothy, he is far from home. And his wife is a wicked witch.

Posted by: BM at May 11, 2011 09:53 AM (qMymA)

130 Gee, with all the lawyers in this administration, you'd think one of them would have heard of the "fruit of the poisoned tree" doctrine.

Posted by: AmishDude at May 11, 2011 01:12 PM (T0NGe)

Dude, I was on that at #33.

Posted by: stuiec at May 11, 2011 10:00 AM (Di3Im)

131

Moats 'n' Gators is good.

Tits 'n' ass is better.....

Posted by: maddogg at May 11, 2011 01:08 PM (OlN4e)

Glue foam rubber forms of naked women onto the backs of the gators, and you'll get a large percentage of the target audience swimming right up to them.

Posted by: stuiec at May 11, 2011 10:03 AM (Di3Im)

132

Is Zero moving toward another middle east war he has no intention of prosecuting?

Posted by: Donna at May 11, 2011 01:02 PM (bdE9c)

Bill Clinton declared that American policy toward Iraq was regime change. It's not like making that declaration meant he had to do jack shit to actually change the regime.

Note also that the Libya thing specifically does not include regime change as an objective.

FUBAR ought to be the Administration's official candy.

Posted by: stuiec at May 11, 2011 10:06 AM (Di3Im)

133 Obama is directly responsible for murdering more strawmen than four score and seven Texas wildfires.

Posted by: Zombie Abe at May 11, 2011 10:17 AM (GwPRU)

134 So this stratgey works with something like......global warming right?

Posted by: EC at May 11, 2011 10:18 AM (GQ8sn)

135 I would assert that "decisive information" is the true weasel phrase of the statement.

Posted by: headhunt23 at May 11, 2011 10:34 AM (Q08aV)

136 Regarding that asshole's letter to the Pittsburgh paper:

Does he honestly think that George Bush directed every movement of the military? That Tommy Franks would have allowed those troops in Afghanistan to drag their feet? That no one would have MENTIONED this in 11 years?

These people live in a parallel universe. I am sorry it intersects with ours. I would prefer that the portal be closed and they be sent back to their alternate reality, whenre they can chat with Mr. Mtzlplygk.

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 11, 2011 11:15 AM (Fo83G)

137 The fact that Larry bought the cocaine did not directly lead me to snort a fat line off his johnson.

Posted by: B+rry Ob+mao at May 11, 2011 11:36 AM (1IjKi)

138

"good moral character" as determined by immigration agents

You guys totally missed it. This is obviously like that new EO they're about to put out - a requirement to disclose their political contributions. Thank goodness Democrats have discovered morality (NOT)!!

Posted by: Optimizer at May 11, 2011 11:38 AM (F56VB)

139

Really though, this is a classic application of critical thinking. The Bush guys say it helped. That's fine, but they have their interests. But Panetta, who runs the CIA, said the same thing. Further, the other WH hacks don't really deny it - they talk around it, saying "the intel came from a lot of things" - this is only the latest twist on that.

A reasonable person applying critical thinking would conclude that the enhanced interrogations were definitely a part of the path to finding Bin Laden.

This is also a classic example of why "progressives" do not encourage critical thinking.

Posted by: Optimizer at May 11, 2011 11:43 AM (F56VB)

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