October 14, 2011

WHITE HOUSE REFUSES TO TURN OVER SOLYNDRA DOCUMENTS
— Ace

Earlier, they were subpeonaed.

Now, a source says they will withhold some documents, which I take to mean all the important documents.

Check out the editorializing by CNN in the first three words here, insisting that there's nothing at all amiss.

Consistent with precedent, the president's legal counsel is refusing to hand over all internal White House communications related to the energy firm, including President Obama's Blackberry messages, arguing that the president needs to protect open counsel from advisers and staff.

In part, the letter obtained by CNN says the request "implicates longstanding and significant institutional Executive Branch confidentiality interests. Encroaching upon these important interests is not necessary, however, because the agency documents the Committee has requested, which include communications with the White House, should satisfy the Committee's stated objective - to 'understand the involvement of the White House in the review of the Solyndra loan guarantee and the Administration's support of this guarantee.'"

"Consistent with precedent."


Pictured: Precedent

Posted by: Ace at 03:40 PM | Comments (179)
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1 "Consistent with precedent." UNPRECEDENTED!

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 14, 2011 03:41 PM (niZvt)

2 Consistent with this Administration's precedent, anyway.

Posted by: Keith Arnold at October 14, 2011 03:41 PM (Jdtsu)

3 I'm glad I poured a drink when I got home.

Posted by: mpfs, TPT at October 14, 2011 03:42 PM (bnSVY)

4 Unpossible

Posted by: 2549 at October 14, 2011 03:42 PM (kvxPn)

5 Nothing to see here, rubes, move along.

Posted by: 141Driver at October 14, 2011 03:42 PM (fCaFf)

6 "Transparency" at its finest.

Posted by: el mao at October 14, 2011 03:42 PM (RZ5o3)

7 It's been a while since someone reminded us, so we're over due: Water is wet.

Posted by: As If! at October 14, 2011 03:42 PM (piMMO)

8 Unprecedential.

Posted by: tommygun at October 14, 2011 03:42 PM (T2ydq)

9 Consistant with criminal conspiracy.

Posted by: mpfs, TPT at October 14, 2011 03:43 PM (bnSVY)

10 Is it true that certain JEF's are a Stuttering Clusterfuck of a Miserable Failure?

It's twue! It's twue!

Posted by: cthulhu at October 14, 2011 03:43 PM (kaalw)

11 Well... Here's hoping that come January 2013, Obama will be unpresidented.

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 14, 2011 03:44 PM (niZvt)

12

Consistent with precedent."

Equals:

Even though we scream Bloody Murder when a Republican White House does it, we are pleased to say..."

Posted by: buzzion at October 14, 2011 03:44 PM (GULKT)

13 Obviously they didn't want to break with precedence.

Posted by: Bosk at October 14, 2011 03:44 PM (n2K+4)

14 Consistent with the Nixon Whitehouse.

Posted by: busdrivee at October 14, 2011 03:44 PM (J5ln/)

15 @13: I see what you broke there...

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 14, 2011 03:44 PM (niZvt)

16 Oh we understand the involvement of the White House perfectly.

Posted by: mpfs, TPT at October 14, 2011 03:45 PM (bnSVY)

17 This is such a brokedick decision on their part.

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 14, 2011 03:45 PM (niZvt)

18 Gah, picture no show on first read.

Posted by: busdrivee at October 14, 2011 03:45 PM (J5ln/)

19 Where is Deep Throat when you need her the most?

Posted by: I'm in a New York state of mind at October 14, 2011 03:46 PM (4sQwu)

20

Man, this president just can't catch a break!

...wait, what?

Posted by: Guy who didn't read the other thread at October 14, 2011 03:48 PM (q177U)

21 We could kill Issa.



But it would be wrong.

Posted by: Barky O'Genius at October 14, 2011 03:49 PM (QKKT0)

22 "Consistent with precedent" is a legal conclusion - my guess would be that it is the legal conclusion reached by the White House's counsel. 

There is another legal maxim - that one cannot be the "arbiter of his own privilege." 

Guess they didn't get that far. 

Posted by: Alec Leamas at October 14, 2011 03:49 PM (4DS5T)

23 I, for one, wish Obama luck with this. Break a Leg, Dude!

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 14, 2011 03:49 PM (niZvt)

24 Remember, its not the crime, its the cover up. And F*ck CNN. If they didn't run that shit in airports, they would never ever get me as a viewer. oh, and Obumbles is a stuttering cluster*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: Mephitis at October 14, 2011 03:50 PM (piB1L)

25

Where is Deep Throat when you need her the most?

 

You mean him, don't you?

Posted by: Kal Penn at October 14, 2011 03:50 PM (vxDBA)

26 Pictured: Precedent

Oh so very nice, that.

Posted by: toby928© at October 14, 2011 03:50 PM (GTbGH)

27

Brought over because the other thread was dead and I still have faith in Americans:

435 OT and I am typing with blurred vision. Across from our porch is a playground and there were 4 little girls, about ages 8 - 10. Everyday 4:30 sharp over the loudspeakers, first comes retreat and then the National Anthem. All 4 stopped ( they must be new, cause I never seen them before) put their hand over their hearts and started singing. Now pardon me while I go wipe the dust out of my eyes.

Posted by: Ma Bell at October 14, 2011 07:38 PM (uVuwp)

Posted by: Ma Bell at October 14, 2011 03:50 PM (uVuwp)

28 Most ethical, transparent administration in history!

Posted by: logprof at October 14, 2011 03:50 PM (QaKuj)

29 In part, the letter obtained by CNN says the request "implicates longstanding and significant institutional Executive Branch confidentiality interests. Well, you know what they say. If you break it...

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 14, 2011 03:51 PM (niZvt)

30 Not even a modified limited hangout?

Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at October 14, 2011 03:51 PM (QKKT0)

31

I like my presedent like I like my coffee

instant and just made

Posted by: Max Power at October 14, 2011 03:51 PM (q177U)

32 They won't hand over Urkel's blackberry messages, "arguing that the president needs to protect open counsel from advisers and staff." What the fuck does that quote even mean?  "Protect open counsel from advisers and staff"? 

Impeachment time.  Right now.

Posted by: model_1066 at October 14, 2011 03:51 PM (CMYJa)

33 Ma Bell, love your story.

Posted by: Max Power at October 14, 2011 03:51 PM (q177U)

34 I haven't had a boner like this for 33 years.

Posted by: H.R. Haldemann at October 14, 2011 03:51 PM (QKKT0)

35 @27: Obviously, someone raised those kids well, Ma...

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 14, 2011 03:52 PM (niZvt)

36 I must break you

Posted by: ivan issa at October 14, 2011 03:52 PM (GTbGH)

37 This is shaping up as a fast breaking story!

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 14, 2011 03:52 PM (niZvt)

38 Posted by: Ma Bell at October 14, 2011 07:38 PM (uVuwp)

Pass the tissue, please!

Posted by: MissTammy at October 14, 2011 03:53 PM (SsG4J)

39 That is certainly consistent with precedent for CNN.  After they have have been giving Zero a blowjob long enough, they begin to enjoy it themselves.  These little hall pass qualifyers roll off their tongues naturally.

Posted by: I'm in a New York state of mind at October 14, 2011 03:53 PM (4sQwu)

40 Go Orunj!

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at October 14, 2011 03:53 PM (vxDBA)

41 I am not a crook.

Posted by: Barky O'Genius at October 14, 2011 03:53 PM (QKKT0)

42

OT but timely:

barak obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure

Posted by: Max Power at October 14, 2011 03:53 PM (q177U)

43 consistent with precedent?

Inconceivable!

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at October 14, 2011 03:53 PM (Qxdfp)

44 Uh, I was thinking the Presedent was Hillary's Whitewater papers. I know, let's ask Vince Foster why they didn't produce those right away. Oh, wait....

Posted by: dagny at October 14, 2011 03:53 PM (M1lcg)

45 Well, I 'spose we'll all just ignore that little kerfuffle about Karl Rove's lated unlamented techy & just about the entire Bush White House e-mail data base up from inaugeration right up into 2006 getting eated.

Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at October 14, 2011 03:53 PM (vahvH)

46 Umm, isn't it illegal to fail to comply with a lawful subpoena?

Posted by: knob at October 14, 2011 03:54 PM (lujI8)

47 It would be a delicious irony if what brings down Obama is not all the left-wing stuff, but a cover up of pure, unadulterated graft.  Actually, Obama would ride out his chances of conviction in the Senate.

Posted by: SFGoth at October 14, 2011 03:54 PM (dZ756)

48 Yeah, Deep Throat was a him, but I want it to be a her this time.

Posted by: I'm in a New York state of mind at October 14, 2011 03:54 PM (4sQwu)

49 Impeach this mother fucker NOW!

Posted by: Ugrev at October 14, 2011 03:54 PM (862vz)

50 Can't find the quoted text in the CNN article.

Posted by: Sgt. York at October 14, 2011 03:54 PM (r/+n3)

51 The GOP has a multitudinous plentitude of material to use in campaign ads that will absolutely eviscerate O'bumbles using his own words/actions...if they can't or won't do it...all hope is lost.

Posted by: model_1066 at October 14, 2011 03:54 PM (CMYJa)

52 Pass the tissue, please!

Posted by: MissTammy at October 14, 2011 07:53 PM (SsG4J)

Sorry, used it all up myself, just grab some toiletpaper

Posted by: Ma Bell at October 14, 2011 03:54 PM (uVuwp)

53 OK, where is the "John Dean" in this administration?

Posted by: Reggie1971 at October 14, 2011 03:54 PM (0DGtF)

54 Man, Babroke Obama's in deep doo-doo now...

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 14, 2011 03:54 PM (niZvt)

55 C'mon, eavesdropping on a buncha dems is a crime.

Butt f*cking taxpayers is a duty.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at October 14, 2011 03:55 PM (Qxdfp)

56 Fricking 52%.  Thanks a lot, douchebags.  Thanks a lot.

Posted by: runningrn in tinfoil hat at October 14, 2011 03:55 PM (Lbb9+)

57 18 minutes we'll never get back.

Posted by: Rosemary Woods at October 14, 2011 03:55 PM (bZEW9)

58 What the fuck are you people all excited about anyway?
By demanding this info, it's like you want to kill women or something...

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at October 14, 2011 03:55 PM (Zi+FQ)

59

Deep Throat was a him, but I want it to be a her this time.

 

That's just icky.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at October 14, 2011 03:55 PM (vxDBA)

60 I liked Nixon....

Posted by: dagny at October 14, 2011 03:56 PM (M1lcg)

61 *down tingles.....*

Posted by: wiserbud at October 14, 2011 03:56 PM (3Okgs)

62 At least Nixon genuinely liked America.  Can't say the same about Obama.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 14, 2011 03:56 PM (i0App)

63 hmm, does this go for Fast and Furious, and Lightsquared also ?

transparent er

criminal.

Posted by: willow at October 14, 2011 03:56 PM (h+qn8)

64 I liked Nixon....

Affirmative action, the EPA and wage and price controls.  What's not to like?

Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at October 14, 2011 03:57 PM (QKKT0)

65 Let me be clear, I've always said, there is only information on a need to know basis , and we'll decide what you're allowed to know.


Posted by: willow at October 14, 2011 03:57 PM (h+qn8)

66 It's the Chicago way! (Sean Connery's voice here)

Posted by: dagny at October 14, 2011 03:58 PM (M1lcg)

67 *down tingles.....*

Posted by: wiserbud at October 14, 2011 07:56 PM (66lbs)


Nice...

Posted by: Gunslinger at October 14, 2011 03:58 PM (Zi+FQ)

68 64 He wasn't Humphrey or McGovern?

Posted by: dagny at October 14, 2011 03:58 PM (M1lcg)

69
64 I liked Nixon....

Affirmative action, the EPA and wage and price controls.  What's not to like?


He HATED the press.
He had that one right.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at October 14, 2011 03:58 PM (Qxdfp)

70 Ahhhhhhhhh ... gimme a break.

Posted by: eastvalleyphx at October 14, 2011 03:59 PM (qiOph)

71 Nancy, "republicans only want to see women and children burned to a crisp, global warming is real and we'll all fry if you don't give us what we want!"

Posted by: willow at October 14, 2011 03:59 PM (h+qn8)

72 Not even a modified limited hangout?
Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist

Welcome, old-timer.

Posted by: toby928© at October 14, 2011 03:59 PM (GTbGH)

73 Anybody that still believes that Solyndra, Lightsquared or any other "green energy" loan is anything else but a money laundering scheme for DNC, DCCC, OfA and Oblowme is delusional

Posted by: Ma Bell at October 14, 2011 04:00 PM (uVuwp)

74 Remember, this about political donations and solar panels, not national security. Everything. every piece of paper or email from the White House generated with even the mention of the word Solyndra should be made available without one word redacted.

Posted by: lowandslow at October 14, 2011 04:00 PM (GZitp)

75 I'm gonna catch it on C-Span.......

Posted by: Spiker at October 14, 2011 04:00 PM (fZfKj)

76 Some of the WH staff will be the belle of the balls in prison. Who cracks first?

Posted by: mpfs, TPT at October 14, 2011 04:00 PM (bnSVY)

77 Stop trying to push this, ace. Americans don't care about Solyndra.

Companies fail. Poor decisions sometimes are made. Deal.

Posted by: proudonkey at October 14, 2011 04:00 PM (NadeK)

78 This will break the story wide open!

Posted by: joncelli at October 14, 2011 04:00 PM (YL3wr)

79 STFU, dunce.

Posted by: toby928© at October 14, 2011 04:00 PM (GTbGH)

80 Republicans can't read so there is no use handing over documents.

the mfm

Posted by: willow at October 14, 2011 04:01 PM (h+qn8)

81 Everything. every piece of paper or email from the White House generated with even the mention of the word Solyndra should be made available without one word redacted.

We're right on it, champ.

Posted by: Eric Holder at October 14, 2011 04:01 PM (QKKT0)

82 62 At least Nixon genuinely liked America.  Can't say the same about Obama.

 

Nixon also worked his ass off to get where he was.  He had to deal with a press for decades that hated his guts because he nailed that Alger Hiss traitor to the wall.

Nixon certainly had his flaws, but IMHO was a helluva lot better man than SCOAMF.


Posted by: Reggie1971 at October 14, 2011 04:01 PM (0DGtF)

83

I remember when they use to call Reagan the Teflon President. 

"A superhard substance that is more slippery than Teflon could protect mechanical parts from wear and tear, and boost energy efficiency by reducing friction.

The "ceramic alloy" is created by combining a metal alloy of boron, aluminium and magnesium (AlMgB14) with titanium boride (TiB2). It is the hardest material after diamond and cubic boron nitride.

BAM, as the material is called, was discovered at the US Department of Energy Ames Laboratory in Iowa in 1999, during attempts to develop a substance to generate electricity when heated.

BAM is much slipperier than Teflon, with a coefficient of friction of .02 compared to .05. Lubricated steel has a friction coefficient of 0.16.

 

oBAMa.

 

 

Posted by: runningrn in tinfoil hat at October 14, 2011 04:01 PM (Lbb9+)

84 I smell donkey shit.

Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at October 14, 2011 04:01 PM (QKKT0)

85 76 Or should I say which butt crack first in prison?

Posted by: mpfs, TPT at October 14, 2011 04:02 PM (bnSVY)

86 Stop trying to push this, ace. Americans don't care about Solyndra.

Companies fail. Poor decisions sometimes are made. Deal.

Posted by: proudonkey at October 14, 2011 08:00 PM (NadeK)


yes stop it ace, it's boring to know how our tax dollars were used to give payback for Obama donors.

Posted by: willow at October 14, 2011 04:02 PM (h+qn8)

87

Of course we're only hearing about 1/1000 of the actual corruption.

Posted by: dagny at October 14, 2011 04:02 PM (M1lcg)

88 Don't call his bluff Ace. Don't do it! STOOOOOP!

Posted by: PlowedDonkey at October 14, 2011 04:02 PM (YL3wr)

89 I refuse to be outraged. Bombay Sapphire has dampened my enthusiasm. I'll get outraged tomorrow. That's why this broke today, right? Everything important breaks late on Friday.

We're scroomed.

Posted by: Ima Wurdibitsch at October 14, 2011 04:03 PM (otfJ1)

90

queue troll music...

Posted by: Pot squatin' Frog at October 14, 2011 04:03 PM (q177U)

91 Stop trying to push this, ace. Americans don't care about Solyndra.

Companies fail. Poor decisions sometimes are made. Deal.

Posted by: proudonkey at October 14, 2011 08:00 PM (NadeK)

Sometimes? We had "poor" decisions for 3 years now you deluded dimwit

Posted by: Ma Bell at October 14, 2011 04:04 PM (uVuwp)

92 Again I must state my sad wish that the Perry administration throws these cocksuckers in the hoosegow by the truckload, like we were an effin banana republic.

Posted by: toby928© at October 14, 2011 04:04 PM (GTbGH)

93 Tricky Dick looks like Mother Theresa these days...I guess Woodward and Bernstein's kids are all flea baggin up at occupy wallstreet these days.

Posted by: nina at October 14, 2011 04:04 PM (CIcOf)

94 in the context of this thread, all of you are racists!

Posted by: proudungheap at October 14, 2011 04:04 PM (zlkb6)

95 89 My choice of "I don't give shit liquor" is Russian Standard Vodka. I haven't come home from work and cracked the booze in a looooooong time.

Posted by: mpfs, TPT at October 14, 2011 04:05 PM (bnSVY)

96 all of you are racists!

Unpossible!  I watched Black in America, part 1 AND 2.

Posted by: toby928© at October 14, 2011 04:05 PM (GTbGH)

97 seriously, drop it, Ace.

even The Green Arrow knew when to give up.

Posted by: proud donkey show participant at October 14, 2011 04:05 PM (3Okgs)

98 Stop trying to push this, ace. Americans don't care about Solyndra.

Companies fail. Poor decisions sometimes are made. Deal.

Posted by: proudonkey at October 14, 2011 08:00 PM (NadeK)

Thanks for the wisdom, I'm convinced.

coff, douchebag, coff

Posted by: ErikW at October 14, 2011 04:06 PM (P6SFS)

99

I refuse to be outraged. Bombay Sapphire has dampened my enthusiasm. I'll get outraged tomorrow. That's why this broke today, right? Everything important breaks late on Friday.

 

Yup, today's typical Friday news dump is brought to you by Ford's Crown Victoria Police Cruisers.


Posted by: runningrn in tinfoil hat at October 14, 2011 04:06 PM (Lbb9+)

100

Did anyone actually expect anything different here?

  Couple this with the intent of the media to downplay or ignore the story and you've got the strategy going forward.

   Same applies to F&F.

  Wait and see.

Posted by: irongrampa at October 14, 2011 04:06 PM (SAMxH)

101 77 Stop trying to push this, ace. Americans don't care about Solyndra. Companies fail. Poor decisions sometimes are made. Deal. Posted by: proudonkey at October 14, 2011 08:00 PM (NadeK) ------------------------------------ Like G.M.?

Posted by: Spiker at October 14, 2011 04:07 PM (fZfKj)

102 Every post about Obama from now on should include a picture of Nixon in victory mode.

Posted by: Alice's Clone Army at October 14, 2011 04:07 PM (wDzxx)

103 Who's gonna call 'em on it? CNN? ABC? CBS? NBC? Ha.

Posted by: Z Ryan at October 14, 2011 04:07 PM (U9NWP)

104 Harrumph! Harrumph! Harrumph! Harrumph!

Posted by: President Barack J. LePetomane at October 14, 2011 04:08 PM (w41GQ)

105 WTH is subpeonaed? Is there a goddam peony in here someplace?

You don't pronounce it suhpeenee, too, do you?

Posted by: comatus at October 14, 2011 04:08 PM (NA+Ul)

106 Consistent with taqiyya and his muslim faith, and his fake SS#, and his gun running New Black Panther Party defending Attny General,

consistent with his untraceable overseas donations in the '08 election, and his nonexistent transcripts and past girlfriends, and his prolific publications at The Harvard Law Review,

consistent with his record of achievement and unknown associations at Columbia, and his trip to Pahkeestan,

consistent with passing Obamacre to see what's in Obamacare.....

this Precedency has the consistency of backwater swamp muck.

 

Posted by: ontherocks at October 14, 2011 04:08 PM (HBqDo)

107 Hey !.. Look over there !.. Uganda !!!11eleventy

Posted by: franksalterego at October 14, 2011 04:09 PM (9XykO)

108 95 89
My choice of "I don't give shit liquor" is Russian Standard Vodka. I haven't come home from work and cracked the booze in a looooooong time.

Posted by: mpfs, TPT at October 14, 2011 08:05 PM (bnSVY)

I didn't realize that I wasn't going to give a shit when I got home from work tonight. I had honest intentions of reading my favorite blogs, having a cocktail or two, and getting a good nights' sleep.  The gin works for "I don't give a shit right now" and I'm good with that.  I think I'm probably not going to be able to participate in the ONT. I have to get up early in the morning - prep for Monty's economic doomsday.

Posted by: Ima Wurdibitsch at October 14, 2011 04:09 PM (otfJ1)

109 If the idea is to follow Nixon's precedent, then by all means let's do that.

Posted by: Mayday at October 14, 2011 04:10 PM (orrLR)

110 My choice of "I don't give shit liquor" is Russian Standard Vodka. I haven't come home from work and cracked the booze in a looooooong time. Posted by: mpfs, TPT at October 14, 2011 08:05 PM (bnSVY)

Come now.

Posted by: mpfs' Garbage Collector at October 14, 2011 04:10 PM (QKKT0)

111 Poor decisions sometimes are made.

Don't I know it!

Posted by: Dum-Dum's Parents at October 14, 2011 04:10 PM (s7mIC)

112 This Solyndra bruhaha is a temptest in a teapot. A mockery of a sham of a travesty of a mockery.

Posted by: mpfs, TPT at October 14, 2011 04:10 PM (bnSVY)

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at October 14, 2011 04:11 PM (Qxdfp)

114 Vhy don't you admit it? He's too much of man for you. I know. You're going to need an army to beat him! You're finished. Fertig! Verfallen! Verlumpt! Verblunget! Verkackt!

Posted by: Donkey Von Schtupp at October 14, 2011 04:11 PM (QKKT0)

115 I'm not a liberal!  Now where are my kneepads, Obama needs my services.

Posted by: proudumdum at October 14, 2011 04:11 PM (GULKT)

116 Companies probably shouldn't fail after being given half a billion dollars, though, donkster.

And when you have documents that prove this administration gave the money knowing that the company was doomed, just to further their agenda and/or line the pockets of big donors, it get's a little stinky, and the air should be let in.

Either you're such a corrupt person yourself that you don't recognize the ugly in all this or you're so brainwashed it's pathetic.

Having said all that, they were dreaming if they thought they were gonna get Obumble's BB.

Posted by: MissTammy at October 14, 2011 04:12 PM (SsG4J)

117 Again I must state my sad wish that the Perry administration throws these cocksuckers in the hoosegow by the truckload, like we were an effin banana republic.

Posted by: toby928© at October 14, 2011 08:04 PM (GTbGH)

Reporter: President Perry, your budget your office just released has no mention of hundreds of current programs and advisors that have been written into current legislation, why haven't you listed them?

Perry: They're...um, they're gone. [in audible] mufle

Reporter: What do you mean they are gone, why aren't they listed as line items in the budget?

Perry: I uh...I lost them. They were lost in the...move. There was an accident, with a..fork truck, er fork lift truck. Metamucil snorflbleck.

Posted by: Max Power at October 14, 2011 04:13 PM (q177U)

118 You assholes are all 1%ers. OWS is more popular than you teabaggurzzz!!

Posted by: Donkey Dick Sucker at October 14, 2011 04:14 PM (HpT9p)

119 it's boring to know how our tax dollars were used to give payback for Obama donors.

Wasn't even the douchebag's own money he gave to Obama--he was a bundler.

Posted by: HeatherRadish is in Beast Mode! at October 14, 2011 04:14 PM (lGVMg)

120 Yeah, Ace, rack it up to, "sometimes poor decisions are made" Like Cash for Clunkers Like Stimulus I Like Fast & Furious Like Obamacare 'Cause none of the above has cost one single life or one thin dime.

Posted by: In awe/panic of what machines can do at October 14, 2011 04:14 PM (NRygI)

121

Obumble's BB.

What's a BB?

Posted by: Ma Bell at October 14, 2011 04:14 PM (uVuwp)

122 Obviously the WH documents were hacked.

Posted by: A Weiner at October 14, 2011 04:15 PM (jucos)

123

UNEXPECTEDLY!!

 

 

Posted by: runningrn in tinfoil hat at October 14, 2011 04:16 PM (Lbb9+)

124 Companies fail. Poor decisions sometimes are made. Deal.

Posted by: proudonkey at October 14, 2011 08:00 PM (NadeK)

--Great use of the passive voice.  Nothing passive about 1/2 billion taxpayer dollars being pissed away 0bama pissing away 1/2 billion taxpayer dollars, though.

Posted by: logprof at October 14, 2011 04:17 PM (QaKuj)

125 I'm wondering how feasible it is in modern times to destroy evidence, as compared to 1973.  Probably a bit more to it than throwing tapes into a fireplace like I'm sure Nixon wished he had done.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at October 14, 2011 04:18 PM (0DGtF)

126 --Great use of the passive voice.

Indeed.  The money just wasted itself!

Posted by: toby928© at October 14, 2011 04:19 PM (GTbGH)

127 Corruption on the Right: Halluburton delivered goods and services at an exorbitant price. Corruption on the Left: Solyndra delivered jack shit at an exorbitant price. Ya know, if I gotta have corruption, I'd at least like to get a fuckin' cheeseburger out of it.

Posted by: Spiker at October 14, 2011 04:20 PM (KESXl)

128

@53: "OK, where is the "John Dean" in this administration?"

Lefty administrations have more believers and far fewer traitors (to the administration, at least). 

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at October 14, 2011 04:20 PM (xy9wk)

129

I can see the donkey's point.  What is the whole point of the investigation?  To prove Obama's a dipshit who wastes our money?  Do we really need an investigation to prove that?  Or is there suspicion of something criminal?

Also, I remember W invoking the "open council" arguement at least once.

Posted by: bernverdnardo at October 14, 2011 04:22 PM (xXhWA)

130 Posted by: sickinmass at October 14, 2011 08:18 PM (1rflU) My son is anxious to see the presidential debates. Six months ago I told him O'surly will not do a debate. I'l love to be wrong on this.

Posted by: In awe/panic of what machines can do at October 14, 2011 04:24 PM (NRygI)

131 102 Every post about Obama from now on should include a picture of Nixon in victory mode.

Posted by: Alice's Clone Army at October 14, 2011 08:07 PM (wDzxx)

 

+1

Posted by: Truman North, Bum Jew at October 14, 2011 04:24 PM (I2LwF)

132

@92: "like we were an effin banana republic."

were?

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at October 14, 2011 04:24 PM (xy9wk)

133 It's twue! It's twue!..Posted by: cthulhu..

The most "eloquent" speaker in the history of the planet! Yeah, like his Constitutional scholar creds huh? Two MINUTES and forty-seven seconds of er's, ah's, um's, duh's, etc.. And Obummer's whistling as he talks is annoying as hell. Is it his speech or the wind whistling between his ears in that empty space between them? When this idiot starts dropping his "g's" to sound hip, I want to projectile vomit! Just goes to show 66 million CAN be fooled. Smartest man my Ass. Hole.

Herman Cain is gonna whip this punk like a red-headed stepchild in the debates if they ban teleprompters there! HAHA!

Posted by: sickinmass at October 14, 2011 08:18 PM (1rflU)

--I myself may "um" and "uh" 2 minutes' worth during a day's lecturing in an hour.  Then again, I have never been touted as the most well-spoken professor in history, either.

Posted by: logprof at October 14, 2011 04:25 PM (QaKuj)

134 Or is there suspicion of something criminal?

I believe they're starting to suspicion that Obama donors benefited financially from a loan that stunk so bad it should never have been given, which is criminal.

Posted by: MissTammy at October 14, 2011 04:27 PM (SsG4J)

135 "Consistent with precedent, the president's legal counsel is refusing to hand over all internal White House communications related to the energy firm, including President Obama's Blackberry messages, arguing that the president needs to protect open counsel from advisers and staff..." Well, what do you expect from the most "transparent administration in history", er, make that seemingly the most transparently corrupt administration in history.

Posted by: The Epic Presidential Failure is now an Epic SCOAMF at October 14, 2011 04:30 PM (y2fDm)

136 $10 million vacations for the Mooch. Hell yes, we can counter that with "Target shopping". This is the think-tank.

Posted by: In awe/panic of what machines can do at October 14, 2011 04:31 PM (NRygI)

137

Consistent with precedent, the president's legal counsel is refusing to hand over all internal White House communications related to the energy firm, including President Obama's Blackberry messages, arguing that the president needs to protect open counsel from advisers and staff.

Solyndra is/was a commercial firm, engaged in manufacturing a product intended for public use, by the general public, in locations that are, well, public, or at least in public view all the time ... rooftops.

What possible communication could the White House have with Solyndra that could be legitimately considered "sensitive"? It seems unlikely that Solyndra was divulging any company-proprietary material, and if they were, why protect it from the Congressional Committee? What technical advice could possbly come from the White House?

But we know that Solyndra received a titanic loan, and was on the verge of getting another loan, almost as big.

What information about these loans would be legitimately sensitive, in the sense of needing Executive Priviledge to protect it from foreign ears? Why whould any loan information need protection?

One thing that comes to mind: the fact that the WH pushed these loans at a time when it had knowledge of Solyndra's impending failure. Keeping such details secret seems understandable ... but details of this sort would likely indicate a crime or several ... fraud, swindle, payola, money laundering, ... help me out here, people.

Keeping such details secret, and trying to cover up afterwards ... aren't those crimes as well? Does EP cover communications indicating criminal conduct or cover-ups?

Paging Messrs Haldemann, Erlichmann, Dean & Liddy ...

Enquiring Minds want to know.

Posted by: Arbalest at October 14, 2011 04:32 PM (bcBrU)

138 So, is the House readying impeachment papers? Might want to start. Between this and Fast & Furious, the Senate might find SCoaMF troubling. Maybe they could throw him under the bus to save themselves.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 14, 2011 04:36 PM (REXkU)

139 Solyndra, although an obvious and stupid alias, was not in the business of making solar panels but death-ray panels to be used against enemies such as Iran. That is why the documents are so sensitive and secretive. Duh.

Posted by: In awe/panic of what machines can do at October 14, 2011 04:37 PM (NRygI)

140 "President Obama's Blackberry messages, arguing that the president needs to protect open counsel from advisers and staff."

Yes. He needs the freedom to get advice on how to commit a crime and screw Americans. I'm certain that's what the Founders intended.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 14, 2011 04:38 PM (REXkU)

141 Hey LOOK!

Lindsay Lohan violated the terms of her parole!

Posted by: MFM at October 14, 2011 04:40 PM (3Okgs)

142 and the issue also is, when Solyndra showed itself as failing AFTER the first 500 million, They were again going to shell out more hundreds of millions right before the story broke!

Posted by: willow at October 14, 2011 04:42 PM (h+qn8)

143 That's why the Feds were there at Solyndra so early and boxing everything up. It had nothing to do with any possible future investigation. It was to cover the President's ass!

Posted by: JDW at October 14, 2011 04:44 PM (XBEWJ)

144 Levin has someone on his show last night who seemed to have known something was going on with Solyndra the day before they showed up to take files, etc. (She had called his show the day before).  Right at the end of her call she said that as far as she knew, all the solar panels that were made were government orders.  Levin was up against a break so he didn't really have a chance to dig much on that claim.  Will be interesting to see if we ever find out if that was actually true.

Posted by: Tami-Cardinals! at October 14, 2011 04:44 PM (X6akg)

145 the Almighty Precedent will get ya every time, it's motherf-ing bitch.

Posted by: shoey (team Constitution) at October 14, 2011 04:47 PM (m6OUa)

146 So, is the House readying impeachment papers? Might want to start. Between this and Fast & Furious, the Senate might find SCoaMF troubling. Maybe they could throw him under the bus to save themselves.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 14, 2011 08:36 PM

Impeachment papers? Surely you jest. I'd expect to see Boner take the "Poppin' Fresh" -- "in fairness..." -- approach, and decide that the optics of impeaching President Historic First© are bad.

The stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure still has his allies, including every Democrat in Congress, the toe-sucking media and a horde of people still waiting for "their stuff" from Obama's stash. His opponents -- at least the ones who are in a position to do something -- are a bunch of power-hungry fatcats, unwilling to sacrifice any of their perks and privileges, including entree to the DC party scene.

The events of the last few months have pretty much convinced me that the Chicago Jesus, that America-hating traitor, will get through the events that would have sent anyone else to prison and, what's more, he'll get to keep his gig for four more years.

As "Captain Ed" (and NRO and the rest of the squishy commentariat) will say, this is just an "Obamateurism."

Posted by: MishterShcribblerh at October 14, 2011 04:47 PM (YjjrR)

147 Alice's Clone Army: "Every post about Obama from now on should include a picture of Nixon in victory mode."

Niiiice.

How 'bout it, cob loggers?

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 14, 2011 04:55 PM (REXkU)

148

Posted by: Ma Bell at October 14, 2011 07:50 PM (uVuwp)

Thanks, Ma.  I'm trying to do my part with my kids, although the younger one is the most receptive to conservatism.  She has a conservative social studies teacher who gives the class some jaw-dropping assignments in these halcyon days of leftists.  The latest essay topic was "Are all Americans equal?" 

I pointed her to Rush's 2009 CPAC speech.  One of the direct quotes she used was, "We don't see the average American as someone to exploit as a victim; we see potential."

This teacher is quite a refreshing change.  The social studies teacher my older one had used to have a George Bush voodoo doll she kept in the classroom. 

Posted by: RushBabe at October 14, 2011 04:57 PM (tQHzJ)

149 What did the President know and when did he know it?  Oh, and love the Nixon picture.  Although it does look somewhat familiar ... http://bit.ly/oR9Csb

Posted by: ombdz at October 14, 2011 05:00 PM (2DpoY)

150 Solyndra loan figure raises $500K for Obama

WASHINGTON -- A former Energy Department adviser who pushed for a California solar company to receive a half-billion federal loan has raised more than $500,000 for President Barack Obama's reelection campaign.

New campaign finance records show that Steve Spinner, a former sport fitness executive who helped monitor a clean energy loan guarantee program, raised more than $500,000 for Obama as of Sept. 30.

Emails released last week show that Spinner was actively involved in a $528 million federal loan for Solyndra Inc., despite pledging to recuse himself because his wife's law firm represented the company.

Another Energy Department adviser, Steve Westly, has raised more than $200,000 for Obama. Westly tried to warn Obama against a May 2010 trip to Solyndra's Fremont, Calif., headquarters. Obama went on the trip anyway.

http://tinyurl.com/3m8zb5k



Posted by: Tami-Cardinals! at October 14, 2011 05:02 PM (X6akg)

151
That is useful information and its quite easy to come a croper if you are not vigilant.

Posted by: The Magic Maker ePub at October 14, 2011 05:02 PM (/0ay9)

152 Man it sure feels like there are some serious under currents going on. Florida the Rubio thing on pushing the primary up for Romney, Obama's green money stash, Gunrunner. They sure don't like "We the People" being part of the process do they. Counting on you bloggers Ace et al, throw some sunshine on all this. The fight for our country is on, and finding our voice and making it count. OWS just a distraction or some kind of cover, but for what?

Posted by: lions at October 14, 2011 05:04 PM (NWUVP)

153 Here's hoping that come January 2013, Obama will be unpresidented

Not good enough. "Because there is good and there is evil, and evil must be punished." The legal process needs to happen now.

(Sorry for going all reverse-DumDum on y'all, but...)

Posted by: Boulder Monophthalmos at October 14, 2011 05:06 PM (6GvAC)

154 No flaming skull?

Posted by: Joffen at October 14, 2011 05:06 PM (BZUQd)

155 Pure corporatist fascism at its finest. B. Hussein Obama, making Mussolini proud in his grave.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at October 14, 2011 05:09 PM (AZGON)

156

Posted by: Tami-Cardinals! at October 14, 2011 08:44 PM (X6akg)

I was listening the night that woman called in.  She identified herself as Solyndra rank and file, not middle mgt or an executive.  She simply told Levin that even at her level she knew there was no way they were coming close to covering their costs, that it was costing them $6 to make a panel they'd sell for $3.

Posted by: RushBabe at October 14, 2011 05:13 PM (tQHzJ)

157

I was listening the night that woman called in.  She identified herself as Solyndra rank and file, not middle mgt or an executive.  She simply told Levin that even at her level she knew there was no way they were coming close to covering their costs, that it was costing them $6 to make a panel they'd sell for $3.

Posted by: RushBabe at October 14, 2011 09:13 PM (tQHzJ)

Thanks Rushbabe....I didn't know who she was or what connection she had to the company.  Did you hear her last night about the gov't. orders for solar panels?

(I only listen to Levin if I happen to be in the car in the evening.)

Posted by: Tami-Cardinals! at October 14, 2011 05:18 PM (X6akg)

158 Yep! I was agreed, I'll keep in touch to your blog.

Posted by: The Cold Commands epub at October 14, 2011 05:19 PM (3kk88)

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Posted by: Cavalier Queen AudioBook at October 14, 2011 05:26 PM (SvEWy)

160

 Did you hear her last night about the gov't. orders for solar panels?

Oops, I forgot that part.  It was kinda important.

Posted by: RushBabe at October 14, 2011 05:26 PM (tQHzJ)

161

Compared to Obama Nixon was fucking George Washington.

Posted by: dagny at October 14, 2011 05:29 PM (M1lcg)

162 My choice of "I don't give shit liquor" is Russian Standard Vodka. I haven't come home from work and cracked the booze in a looooooong time.

Posted by: mpfs, TPT at October 14, 2011 08:05 PM (bnSVY)

I caught the Russian Standard bug in Siberia a few years ago.  Now, I always have a bottle in the freezer, that way I can knock back an icy slug straight when I need to relax.

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Posted by: The Train of Small Mercies ePub at October 14, 2011 05:39 PM (+5KYu)

164 Perry needs to hit on this everyday - Green Jobs - Scam Solar Energy Loans - Scam Global Warming - Scam Obama's SolyndraGate needs to be busted wide open. Obama & the democrats are just scam artists.

Posted by: izoneguy at October 14, 2011 06:01 PM (i6Neb)

165

They forgot the keyword!

Consistent with precedent, the president's legal counsel UNEXPECTANTLY is refusing to hand over all internal White House communications related to the energy firm, including President Obama's Blackberry messages, arguing that the president needs to protect open counsel from advisers and staff.

Most transparent Presidency ever!

Posted by: Mister Money at October 14, 2011 06:05 PM (wN82N)

166 It's OK through - Obama is sending US troops to Uganda to kill Christian Militias.

Posted by: izoneguy at October 14, 2011 06:07 PM (i6Neb)

167 151 Solyndra loan figure raises $500K for Obama Ha! - he just wrote a check and Obama held it until the Solyndra loan was granted and then the guy got reimbursed from petty cash.

Posted by: izoneguy at October 14, 2011 06:09 PM (i6Neb)

168 I am not a crook!

Posted by: Oba-mao at October 14, 2011 06:16 PM (3BtXI)

169 Sports fitness to solar energy, thats a normal career progression

Posted by: Jean at October 14, 2011 06:23 PM (tWctt)

170 Should we dig up all of the liberal teeth gnashing associated with Cheney's energy meetings to illustrate the ... nevermind

Posted by: Jean at October 14, 2011 06:29 PM (tWctt)

171 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at October 14, 2011 07:01 PM (fyOgS)

172

I just saw the clip of Henry "ratface" Waxman's comments about how the loan was a bad idea.

Yeah Henry, no shit.  It was a bad loan.  Everyone with an IQ in triple digits knows that.  That isn't the issue you dishonest prick.

He then goes on to say that there is no evidence of illegality.

Except for the fact that every single thing we've seen thus far indicates the contrary, unless you have something to indicate that repayment of loans to the Federal Government was not subordinated to repayment of loans to private entities in clear violation of federal law.

This douchenozzle along with other Dems are following their ancient custom of circling the wagons and using obfuscation when their dear leader is in scandal.  They are betting that the controversy won't have legs so long as enough people don't understand it.

This issue isn't rocket science.  Republicans should pursue it.  It can be easily explained and easily understood.  It makes Obama out to be at best incompetent and at worst a crook.  

Posted by: Reggie1971 at October 14, 2011 07:07 PM (0DGtF)

173 Impeach we much.

Posted by: Al Sharpton at October 14, 2011 07:14 PM (D0Svx)

174 Consistent with precedent, the...(rest of excuse omitted)

I smell coverup.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at October 14, 2011 07:39 PM (Sih+c)

175 " We'll send you the documents that show we fucked up and how we fucked up but not the documents about WHO exactly fucked up and who they talked to about what before they fucked up or when that talk occured, or anything explaining the probably "why" of the fuck up as it would probably assign some unfortunately actionable liability to uh..someone. "

Posted by: cackfinger at October 14, 2011 07:43 PM (a9mQu)

176 I watched about two minutes of that horrid new fox show on at 5pm, and their consensus was that there was nothing illegal done with Solyndra.

So the president wasted our tax money.

Big deal.

Not a crime.

That was their take on it.

Posted by: shibumi at October 14, 2011 09:11 PM (z63Tr)

177 Hey brokeback proudass, The hell we don't! Sol-swindle is just one of countless purse snatches by King Putt ,DOE and minions. We want our green$$$ energie back .

Posted by: Americans at October 14, 2011 09:41 PM (bRKhy)

178 There is such a thing as executive privilege. Look at bush's record of use in Wikipedia. Someone should add the solyndra investigation to the start of barky's section.

Posted by: California red at October 14, 2011 10:27 PM (DXTKe)

179


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