If? If? WTF?

What a wonderful testament to the troops under his command.

We should start calling Obama "The Boy in the Bubble." Where has he been for the last, oh, ten years or so?

Besides on the golf course, I mean.

Mogasdishu anyone?

Jeebus. 

I agree wholeheartedly.

So poor co-president Obama won over president Panetta this time. He must have gotten his wittle feewling huwt. 

I don't remember them being so concerned about inflaming the muslims when they released the abu girab photos for political gain.  Assholes.

Now that the birth certificate has been released, he needs a new "thing" that he can hold onto and the rest of us can demand to see.  It's a power trip for him. It serves the further purpose of fueling the conspiracy theories that say that 1) Osama has been dead for years and the US government just decided to go public with his death OR 2) Osama is still alive and the US government just decided to play a big hoax on the world.

It's the Obama version of WINNING!

The stupid Obama quote?  Not an Obama quote.

No.  It's Republican House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers.

Republican House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers said he was against releasing any photos, saying that he didn't want to make the job of U.S. troops abroad "any harder than it already is."

"Imagine how the American people would react if al Qaeda killed one of our troops or military leaders, and put photos of the body on the Internet. Osama bin Laden is not a trophy -- he is dead and let's now focus on continuing the fight until al Qaeda has been eliminated," he said.

ASS.  ASS.  ASS.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 04, 2011 02:03 PM (P+zzG)

OBL didn't have the deck of the battleship Missouri there, so of course it never came off.

Nah. He just doesn't know any stuff. About anything.

Except Entourage.

The part of his brain that isn't an Entourage episode guide is a battlefield of Big Ideas, with no room for mere worldly things.

Except new episodes of Entourage.

This photo should have been plastered everywhere within hours of the op as a simple reminder that any "backlashers" will be served a double tap, no matter how long it takes. 

The waffling, shuffling, hemming, and hawing is the most astounding display of weakness in US History. 

Posted by: MWR at May 04, 2011 02:08 PM (4df7R)

And Chuck Todd attributed it to Toonces.  Which lying MFM source to believe?

And FTR- I don't need to see the photos to believe he's dead. I want want the world to see this is what happens to you when you kill Americans.

I'm not saying impeach the bastard....wait, yes I am.

I don't remember them being so concerned about inflaming the muslims when they released the abu girab photos for political gain. Assholes.

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at May 04, 2011 02:06 PM (UciSl)

This as well.

And run them every day on the front page of the NYT.

After the prosecution had started, and only after.

Yeah, imagine how people would *feel.*

The waffling, shuffling, hemming, and hawing is the most astounding display of weakness in US History. 

Posted by: kevlarchick at May 04, 2011 02:09 PM (TNuqz)

Racist!

No. It's Republican House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers.

Both Obama and Rogers are quoted as saying largely the same thing. From Roll Call:

"The risks of release outweigh the benefits. Conspiracy theorists around the world will just claim the photos are doctored anyway, and there is a real risk that releasing the photos will only serve to inflame public opinion in the Middle East."

He added: "Imagine how the American people would react if Al Qaida killed one of our troops or military leaders, and put photos of the body on the internet. Osama bin Laden is not a trophy -- he is dead and let's now focus on continuing the fight until Al Qaida has been eliminated."

Well, that solves one mystery.  I'd always had trouble deciding if Barry O. was an evil genius out to destroy the US or just too damned dumb to understand how much damage he is doing.

Now I know.  He's dumb as a rock.  It's his handlers that are the evil geniuses directing his every move.

Hard to believe this polled badly.

Put Trump on it.

Posted by: Y-not heard that Larry O'Donnell dodged the draft at May 04, 2011 02:12 PM (pW2o

Let's just say both, ne?  I'm sure Obama would parrot anything Hillary McCankles said, and I'm sure the intelligence committe would talk to the State Dept Secretary to get messages straight.

 "Things should be seen.  He should be seen to be dead.  I have no desire, personally, to view a photograph of Osama bin Laden's corpse missing half it's face. "

I WANT to see it! I WANT to print it out. I WANT to frame it and hang it on my fucking wall next to my front door as a daily reminder that it was AMERICANS that knocked on his fucking door and said "candygram for UBL" and then put a bullet in his noodle.

Posted by: blue star at May 04, 2011 01:59 PM (4xoTK)

Not to mention, Daniel Pearl was an innocent, not even a warrior. This Bed Wetter in Chief has the worst teleprompter loaders known to man kind! We have had people hung from bridges, heads displayed on pikes, heads cut off, pics pics pics of all so we DO know it has happened.....show the pics and let the savages get their dang rags in a wad over it. Then send in some more SEALS for some cleanup....and some more dat HELMET CAM!

Posted by: Methos at May 04, 2011 02:14 PM (uqJo6)

Its that canny populist side of him coming out.

Doesn't really make any difference who said it. Someone should loop it 24/7 and play it on a bullhorn outside the Capital for a few days along with a group of folks with signs of some of the Mogadishu pics, the Daniel Pearl and Nick Berg pics...

Just a friendly reminder of who's at war with us for the crime of being born non-muslim.

Posted by: Methos at May 04, 2011 02:14 PM (uqJo6)

Oh, totally!  No, I'm not blaming Drew M for anything.  I just want to make sure that we get the attribution correct, and if it was one or the other (or both!) we want to make sure everyone knows that.

A CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll released Tuesday showed that 56% of those asked said yes, the government should release a photo of bin Laden's body. Another 39% said no. The poll of 700 adults had a margin of error of 3.5%.

So President Osama once again puts himself on the winning side of a national issue.

The man is a chronic ASSHAT.

89 Rush is playing Andrea "pit face" Mitchell saying the WH feels they "don't have to prove anything, and it will just inflame the muslims."

Fuck the Muslims.  I denounce myself.

While we were being so sensitive to the needs of Muslims everywhere, we did make sure to have only Muslims handle Bin Laden's dead body, right?

Cuz if not that means a naji kufr mishandled the remains of a Muslim.  Which is only about a million times worse than waiting too long to bury him. 

Of course I don't actually care.  But it is important to remember that dhimmitude is a full-time job. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 04, 2011 02:17 PM (UOM4

Oh, good!  If the White House is annoyed, we're doing something right.

Please Dear Lord, give us the strenght to endure the next 626 days, 22 hours,40 minutes and change of this horrifyingly inept ass-clown!

Deep, deep hatred of all thing Obama.

28 I've not commented on any of this (for a variety of reasons) but this is just stupid.

Things should be seen.  He should be seen to be dead.  I have no desire, personally, to view a photograph of Osama bin Laden's corpse missing half it's face.  That would be rather gruesome, and I have no reason to look.  However- it should be made available because- once things are done and no harm can come to the mission because of it- the things that went into the mission should be known.

Hell, I was going get the pic made into Tee Shirts. Maybe call it a shovel ready job well done. The only one McFuckStick has ever bumbled into in his bubble life. And then he goes and fucks up his only presidentin accomplishment.

89 Rush is playing Andrea "pit face" Mitchell saying the WH feels they "don't have to prove anything, and it will just inflame the muslims."

Who cares?  Our existence inflames the muslims.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther)

Roll percentile dice.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 04, 2011 02:17 PM (FkKjr)

Bingo.  Michigan, get your ass in gear and primary this dipshit.

Posted by: joncelli at May 04, 2011 02:17 PM (RD7QR)

Well, that's a fucking waste of an aneurysm.

Still, everything I said about JEF needs to be applied to Rogers. Fuck Primary, do they have recalls in his state?

I get so tired of hearing the libs in my office refer to the Taliban as extremists. What is wrong with these ethnocentric ass holes? That form of ISLAM is MAIN STREAM. It is the watered down  American version that is altered and nominal....Americans are that way religiously. Adhere to the parts they want and call themselves a particular religion with no knowledge of what the religion REALLY is. Theya re so used to this gruesome shite over there that the picture won't even phase them. And Pics, hell.....I wanna see teh vids!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 04, 2011 02:17 PM (UOM4

Who works for fucking who here?

Well, that's a fucking waste of an aneurysm.

Still, everything I said about JEF needs to be applied to Rogers. Fuck Primary, do they have recalls in his state?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 04, 2011 02:20 PM (bxiXv)

I say if Rogers said it it's because that's the line that was agreed upon with the Executive Branch.  So even if Obama didn't say it, it's got his stamp of approval.

Posted by: Hedgehog at May 04, 2011 02:14 PM (Rn2kl)

I forgot to press the record button on my VCR.  Those things are complicated.

Guess released flicks of dragging our men through the streets, burning them , hanging  them on bridges did not happen. Beheading others on cameras , not a problem.

Is He really this ignorant ? does He know anything at all about Islam. or is He a denier?

127 Release the photos kraken chakra!

FTFY

Posted by: Berserker

We have a PPV event that may resolve the deficit issue.

Posted by: Penfold at May 04, 2011 02:17 PM (1PeEC)

Forget waterboarding.  FLOTUS bee-bopping to Beyonce is torture.

Posted by: logprof at May 04, 2011 02:24 PM (jN/Z/)

Michigan.

HereÂ’s a typical response to a question about the SEALs from a senior defence official in a Pentagon briefing on Monday:

QUESTION: Can I ask you, can you confirm that it was a (Navy) SEAL team? And was this a specially designated team that had been practising or reviewing intelligence for a while and they were the unit of choice?

SENIOR DEFENCE OFFICIAL:  Not going to comment on units or numbers.

But hereÂ’s what the legendarily verbose and loose-lipped Vice President Joe Biden said at a dinner at WashingtonÂ’s Ritz Carlton Hotel last night to mark the 50th anniversary of the Atlantic Council:

Let me briefly acknowledge tonightÂ’s distinguished honorees.  Admiral James Stavridis is a, is the real deal.  He can tell you more about and understands the incredible, the phenomenal, the just almost unbelievable capacity of his Navy SEALs and what they did last Sunday.

And:

Folks, IÂ’d be remiss also if I didnÂ’t say an extra word about the incredible events, extraordinary events of this past Sunday.  As Vice President of the United States, as an American, I was in absolute awe of the capacity and dedication of the entire team, both the intelligence community, the CIA, the SEALs.  It just was extraordinary.

Rush is going with Obama saying this, quoting from a 60 Minutes interview.

Posted by: jewells45 at May 04, 2011 02:25 PM (l/N7H)

Now Rush needs to crucify this fucktard Rogers as well as Boner.

I say if Rogers said it it's because that's the line that was agreed upon with the Executive Branch. So even if Obama didn't say it, it's got his stamp of approval.

Posted by: MWR at May 04, 2011 02:21 PM (4df7R)

If you go around believing things that aren't true just because you *want* to, you'll end up voting for Democrats.

If you're *right*, you need to find sources. If (not*, it's not like you don't have plenty of other crap to be mad about.

If the WH does release the photo, then Rodgers looks like a jackass. If the WH doesn't, then he can head back for the baseboards.

Conspiracy theory for the day: that twat (past tense of tweet; look it up) was designed to gauge the reaction to a decision to not release the photo. Either that, or Chuck Todd is one of the most incompetant creatures on the planet. I'm not ruling out a combo.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 04, 2011 02:26 PM (UOM4

Any bets that Obama dumps slow Joe by the end of the year?

OK, I get why they don't want to release the photo, even if I don't fully agree with the reasons; I'm well beyond giving a shit about whether the tender sensibilities of Muslims are offended.

Given the choice- yeah, I'd prefer to see the photo, but I'm not going to get worked up about if they don't.  Why is it so important to many of you that we do see it?  Curiousity?  Doubt that he's really dead?

My idea to rectify this situation.  Start photoshopping that photo that's been around for a couple of years; touch up the head to bring it more in line with the reports and then add a torso.  Not a torso of a simple-living terrorist leader, but, let's say, showing Bin Laden in a sequenced tutu, or a leather S&M outfit.  The options could be endless and quite funny.  Smother the internet with these photos.  Show the world what Bin Laden was up to in his last few seconds of life.

We need to pressure this un-American prez with everything we've got. 

Posted by: Penfold at May 04, 2011 02:17 PM (1PeEC)

Careful, you'll break your wiener.

Who works for fucking who here?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 04, 2011 02:21 PM (bxiXv)

You work to pay taxes to MEEEE!!!!  Get to work peasant

If you're *right*, you need to find sources. If (not*, it's not like you don't have plenty of other crap to be mad about.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 04, 2011 02:27 PM (bxiXv)

I just can't imagine that someone like Rogers would say something that boneheaded as a response to the question of why the WH won't release the death photos without having it agreed upon ahead of time.  I realize all politicians are more or less braindead, but even the stupidest politician would hopefully know, "When asked why the President won't release the photos, I should be sure to answer with what the President told me is his reason not to release the photos."  Ne?

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 04, 2011 02:26 PM (P+zzG)

Well he needs one more idiotic statement for a hat trick of dumbfuckery.  I say he does it within a few minutes.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at May 04, 2011 02:29 PM (8y9MW)

Indeed. I have two kids in the military, as well as their buddies, who have gone into the desert for months at a time looking for this POS. I wanna see the results. It's my damn tax money.

Given the choice- yeah, I'd prefer to see the photo, but I'm not going to get worked up about if they don't. Why is it so important to many of you that we do see it? Curiousity? Doubt that he's really dead?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 04, 2011 02:27 PM (SY2Kh)

How about sick to death of politicians supposed to be on our side doing everything to mollify people who want me dead?

Do we want the enemy to suffer a defeat or not? Or do we want them to feel like they still control our actions with their threats of rioting, violence and arson?

If we don't stop GIVING THEM WHAT THEY WANT, they will keep DOING WHAT THEY DO forever.

It's why you don't pay fucking ransoms. You're paying for more kidnapping.

Posted by: curious at May 04, 2011 02:30 PM (k1rwm)

Not showing the pictures demonstrates weakness.

Dithering about showing the pictures, doubly so.

Careful, you'll break your wiener.

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at May 04, 2011 02:28 PM (UciSl)

It was more like optical birth control.

Correction? 

CORRECTION: Incorrectly attributed quotes from House GOPer Mike Rogers to Pres. Obama. http://is.gd/eGSfe5

Civility my ass. I'm an adult, I can handle it. I've seen all kinds of crime scenes, live and in photos. Yes, I want proof that OBL is dead. At the risk of sounding unpatriotic...I don't trust this administration very much.

" I really think it would accomplish nothing, serve no purpose and only create problems.  "

What does hiding the photo accomplish if not to create problems? The Country doesn't need some shitbird nanny telling us what we can and can't see due to "sensitivities" around the world. It's part of American history, it doesn't belong to Obama. Watch, he'll leak it when it serves him best.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 04, 2011 02:33 PM (P+zzG)

FIFY

curious, well. you're allowed an opinion.

I however disagree. we have had our soldiers bismirhced for a decade. the havoc commited By Dems and their words during albu garaib scandal.

Obama himself ,  bombing villages of innocents. (they could care less if Islam is mad) they just don't want it directed at them.

This Is about anything but being transparent for americans and closure.

Posted by: MWR at May 04, 2011 02:32 PM (4df7R)

A "plausible explanation" is proof of nothing other than your desire for things to turn out a certain way. Important to you, meaningless to everyone else.

You can regret pulling a trigger by mistake, but you can't get the bullet back.

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 04, 2011 02:35 PM (fsGgs)

That's right, MY victory lap. Mine mine mine. Who cares what you peasants want?

There are at least five TV shows that regularly show crime scene pictures of the corpses of murder victims. And we won't show a picture of a terrorist being killed during an operation?

That makes sense how?

We publicized killings at Haditha, and falsely accused US personnel. We publicized fighting in and around mosques, even after it was proven that they were being used as defensive positions.

How does this decision make any sense?

Why is it so important to many of you that we do see it?

The reason we've been told for Obama's decision to go with a SEAL operation instead of a missile strike is that he wanted proof of Osama's death; proof that would have been destroyed by a missile attack.  Now he won't share that proof with the American people.  So essentially he sent our military into a potentially lethal situation to satisfy nothing but his own selfish desires. 

No.   If you wanted proof, Obama, then show it to us.

I'm watching the Carney-val right now..and it strikes me just how fucking incompetent Petey's administration is with regard to the aftermath messaging PR...even with the MFing MBM helping them

Posted by: AmishDude at May 04, 2011 02:36 PM (T0NGe)

Why are you taking a victory lap around Ground Zero if we don't do trophies?

There are at least five TV shows that regularly show crime scene pictures of the corpses of murder victims. And we won't show a picture of a terrorist being killed during an operation?

That makes sense how?

We publicized killings at Haditha, and falsely accused US personnel. We publicized fighting in and around mosques, even after it was proven that they were being used as defensive positions.

How does this decision make any sense?

Posted by: House budget committee

And this friggin Administration was once all for allowing US servicemen's cofins to be photographed. Witness Obama usign their corpses as a photop at Dover AFB.

Posted by: The prayer spoken at Bin Laden's funeral, OK'd by the Obama administration at May 04, 2011 02:37 PM (65RBP)

Are you fucking kidding me?  Okay, now I have a raging headache and blood is shooting out of my eyes.

Posted by: The prayer spoken at Bin Laden's funeral, OK'd by the Obama administration

No shit? They got a Navaho shaman to say all that?

Exactly.  They had to have agreed upon a line before they announced this.   If Obama DID say the "if al Qaeda put pictures of our dead soldiers online" bit during the 60 Mins interview, we'll know.

Why are you taking a victory lap around Ground Zero if we don't do trophies?

Posted by: Rocks at May 04, 2011 02:38 PM (Q1lie)

Actually, Obama's doing an old-fashioned Roman triumph.

Posted by: curious at May 04, 2011 02:30 PM (k1rwm)

Yes, I am going to jump all over you, because that makes no sense at all. We're not the ones hypocritically screaming at Republicans to be civil, we're the ones telling them to FIGHT BACK against the constant incivility of the left.

What it would accomplish is to tell the Islamic Jihad Movement that we don't bow and scrape to them, that they can sit and stew or burn down their own neighborhoods for all we care, because we WILL NOT SUBMIT.

If we give them what they want, we will get more terror, more threats, more violence.

Why is this SO DAMNED DIFFICULT?!?! If you subsidize something, you get more of it. If you give government money to corn farmers, more people grow corn. If you give a screaming child candy, they will scream every time they want candy.

It isn't rocket science, it's one of the most basic rules of life.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at May 04, 2011 02:38 PM (pLTLS)

Hey, even the backup on the Hawaii state championship basketball team gets a piece of the trophy.

Posted by: The prayer spoken at Bin Laden's funeral, OK'd by the Obama administration at May 04, 2011 02:37 PM (65RBP)

My prayer for OBL:

Hey Satan...ass rape him with your barbed cock for all eternity..

...and fuck the lube

So... you're basically saying that Obama's favorite part of playing basketball is teasing the short kids with keepaway?

Posted by: beedubya at May 04, 2011 02:39 PM (AnTyA)

Odds that the whole GZ Victory Tour gets canceled at the last minute? Official line: "scheduling conflict".
Actual reason: it's the only way to be sure Teh One doesn't open his mouth and stick Valerie Jarrett's foot in it.

Posted by: antisocialist at May 04, 2011 02:40 PM (Rwudm)

Ever hear of low guy on the totem pole...uhhh...is that still ok to say?

Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2011 02:41 PM (lSnks)

When Oswald shot Kennedy he was insane

But still we watch the reruns again and again.

We sit and look while the killers takes aim....

Hey Ma! They got a piece of the president's brain!

Posted by: The prayer spoken at Bin Laden's funeral, OK'd by the Obama administration at May 04, 2011 02:40 PM (65RBP)

that is a very unfair comment as I have never been a BO fan and anyone who reads my posts knows this.  I am vehemently against obamacare and the new immigration law that he wants to shove down our throats and the raising of the debt ceiling. 

I am pro the American people.  Hey, buddy did you drive past the parking lot on 9/12/2001 in the back of your parents mini van and see the cars everyone's dad left on 9/11 when they went to work, unclaimed, unclaimed for almost a month.   Well I did and it was hell on fucking earth and I'm entitled to my opinion cause thank God every military person in this country has fought for my entitlement.

Posted by: Bomber

Yup. The SOB wouldn't go without the cameras. Bush went often, and NEVER allowed press.

I know you are going to jump all over me but I really think this was the right decision. I really think it would accomplish nothing, serve no purpose and only create problems. If you are going to scream at the republicans about civility you had better adhere to it yourself.

Posted by: curious at May 04, 2011 02:30 PM (k1rwm)

Everyone's entitled to their opinion, curious.    Yours just might not be shared by most people here.

Hey, even the backup on the Hawaii state championship basketball team gets a piece of the trophy.

Ever see that team photo?? Petey is about a foot taller than anyone else on a team of white and Asian kids..

...and he was a bench warmer

Posted by: jewells45 at May 04, 2011 02:42 PM (l/N7H) 

* This is Pakistan we're talking about...a "fucking dump" is pretty high-end real estate.

Curious, if you don't want to see it, that's your choice.

As for me: I don't trust this administration. Not one little bit. Not about anything.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion, curious.    Yours just might not be shared by most people here.

Posted by: MWR at May 04, 2011 02:46 PM (4df7R)

Which is interesting cause the town I grew up in lost over 50 people on 9/11

Posted by: mrp at May 04, 2011 02:33 PM (HjPtV)

hardly a nuanced response.

Posted by: Havedash at May 04, 2011 02:48 PM (sFD5n)

He should just appoint Bo the dog to the Senate and have it over with.

Ever see that team photo?? Petey is about a foot taller than anyone else on a team of white and Asian kids..

...and he was a bench warmer

Posted by: beedubya at May 04, 2011 02:46 PM (AnTyA) 

The coach only grudgingly let him have 2 garbage points in the chamionship game.

Fucking poseur in everything he's done.

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 04, 2011 02:35 PM (fsGgs)

An Obama victory lap IS who we are. Get with the program.

He should just appoint Bo the dog to the Senate and have it over with.

Posted by: AmishDude at May 04, 2011 02:50 PM (T0NGe)

Senate? Oh HELL no...I'm gonna be his running mate in '12...

Posted by: curious at May 04, 2011 02:40 PM (k1rwm)

Nice try, curious.  But all of us know that it's bullshit.  I like reading your comments most of the time, but sometimes it's obvious that the lefty indoctrination you say you've been inundated with has taken root in some places in your mind. 

Posted by: curious at May 04, 2011 02:40 PM (k1rwm)

Again, you make no sense. Americans *are* asking for the release, and by a majority, too, see the above 56-39 poll. Reliable? Maybe not, but it seems to track what we're seeing. "Arab street" is saying "we don't believe it, prove it," so proving it is *not* what they want, it challenges their belief.

We're talking about the ultimate fantasy-prone personalities here, leaving doubt only helps them fantasize.

Your biggest problem is that you believe everything on the news, which is mostly lies. I mean, you're basing your whole argument on things simply and demonstrably NOT TRUE.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 04, 2011 02:50 PM (uFokq)

Yes.

Actually, Obama's doing an old-fashioned Roman triumph.

Posted by: AmishDude at May 04, 2011 02:41 PM (T0NGe)

And taking the name "BinLadencus"

I want to see the photos, ALL, of the fucking photos. Why? For every time I've had to damn near get naked at the airport. For my countrymen who were murdered on their planes and in their offices and who aren't here to tell us what they want.

I want to see the mother fucking photos because OBL got to live ten years beyond what his victims got. I want to see them for every video and audio tape he ever made afterwards where he insulted, threatened and spiked the ball in our endzone. That's why.

Posted by: JT at May 04, 2011 02:53 PM (f4eMp)

----

Learn to read, asshat.  There were multiple calls for Rogers to be primaried on this thread. 

My thing with the photos as a "warning" is... how is it a warning?  We were searching for Osama for more than ten years.  He slipped through our fingers heaven knows how many times.  I don't believe this was dumb luck obviously, but it's not as if "you fuck with America, we take you out the next day" is standard operating procedure anymore.  I wish it were!

Now, if you want to say it's a warning that we absolutely, resolutely will not give up searching for your ass until you are found and killed, then okay.  That's a good warning.  But it's somewhat toned down by the, "We'll also make sure to give you a proper burial in accordance with your religious beliefs, and won't release "trophy" photos of your bloody corpse," message that goes along with it.

the people who are trying to kill us for no better reason that you and I wear short skirts and don't cover our head

Short skirts covering my head?  Good times, good times.  

Posted by: Bomber

Good. I didn't know that until you posted this. Being from Delaware, I'll never forget how he cashed in on their corpses.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion, curious. Yours just might not be shared by most people here.

Posted by: MWR at May 04, 2011 02:46 PM (4df7R)

Which is interesting cause the town I grew up in lost over 50 people on 9/11

Posted by: curious at May 04, 2011 02:48 PM (k1rwm)

Would you like to explain how that's relevant? Do you think it allows you to override everyone else's opinions? Because, you know, bullshit.

Posted by: curious at May 04, 2011 02:40 PM (k1rwm)

And then, by cravenly refusing to release a simple photo, restored confidence to those who wish us harm.

Posted by: JT at May 04, 2011 02:53 PM (f4eMp)

--Fuck off.

As if there's any doubt that Zero thinks that is a good reason as much as Rogers.

Posted by: JT at May 04, 2011 02:53 PM (f4eMp)

Idiot, did you read the rest of the comments?  Calling for a primary challeger to Rogers?  Calling for a potential recall?  No?  Didn't think so.  Go back to your illiterate Kos cult, dickwad. 

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at May 04, 2011 02:54 PM (LFiVW)

Vlad the Impaler thought so. And it worked for him, the Turkish army sent to kill him, once they encountered the forrest of impaled bodies he had left, turned around and went home, and their commander relinquished command. For a Turk to be shocked, it has to have a certain amount of shock value.

Posted by: JT

-It happened because of Bush, not Obama

Welcome junior troll. I just love point #2. You of course can prove that all efforts to achieve this happened within the last two years only, correct? Otherwise you're just another sniveling syphilitic worm.

Welcome to AosHQ. Here's your pineapple.

Posted by: curious at May 04, 2011 02:55 PM (k1rwm)

You think you have absolute moral authority because you're from New York.

You are wrong.

You don't get to tell us to shut up, and you don't get to tell us what opinions are "worthy."

And you're just pissing everyone else off by demanding everyone do what *you* want because somehow you're a "better victim" than they are.

It's demeaning, it's irrelevant, and it's dishonest. I'd tell you to quit while you're ahead, but that time has passed.

Posted by: antisocialist at May 04, 2011 02:57 PM (Rwudm)

You don't have to speak if you are the vir triumphalis.

Posted by: JT at May 04, 2011 02:55 PM (f4eMp)

Hey Jerk. I guess you've been reading Kos's and Talk Lefts responses. Quit projecting, and think .

Posted by: ontherocks

I heard that the slideshow of his life in pictures was very moving....They shot it off of the forward catapult

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 04, 2011 03:01 PM (EiH7n)

Aww, meatless?  No pork?

Posted by: Y-not heard that Larry O'Donnell dodged the draft at May 04, 2011 02:58 PM (pW2o

Good Idea, I just sent my congressman Jay Inslee Democrat an email requesting that he denounce Mike Rogers on the floor of the house.

Okay, this motherfucker is making me put on a tin foil hat.

What are the odds this is another BC political game?    In his sick, twisted mind, is this fucker holding back on the photo in case his polls start to drop closer to the election, so he can then put it out to remind people that he killed the goatfucker?     Remind people what a so-called great leader he is because he killed the bastard?

This is just so much bullshit.   He can delay all he wants, but sooner or later it's going to come out, and again, he's misjudging the American people.   If he doesn't show that goatfucking SOB with his head blown off, all he's doing is making people ask more and more questions about just where his loyalties lie.   Does he care more about offending muzzies or is he just a big, fat pussy who is afraid of them?

You know what, NYer's aren't for seeing the photos and you know what they are the ones who were wholly violated.  I will never forget that day, never.  NYer's live with 9/11/2001 every single day, every day.  So you can criticize me cause you want proof but you know what NYer's are fine with just knowing justice was done.

Bull-fucking-shit.

Normally I skip over your comments with just a mental eyeroll because experience has taught me they are likely inane drivel. It's simply not worth my time to repsond to a halfwit. But this time? Don't you dare co-opt 9/11 as your personal tragedy. You arrogant little twit. You haven't the brain power to comprehend exactly how deep is the contempt I have for you.

Posted by: curious at May 04, 2011 03:00 PM (k1rwm)

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How about the families of the military who've given their lives?  Are some lives more special?  Seriously.  My NYC s-i-l watched the towers fall and within hours blamed the U. S. for our support of Israel.  Her son hates the military and is pro-mosque near GZ. 

Why is it so important to many of you that we do see it?  Curiousity?  Doubt that he's really dead?  - Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 04, 2011 02:27 PM (SY2Kh)

It's called CLOSURE.

Ask anyone who's ever had a loved one disappear and the body is never found.  Until you actually SEE proof that person is actually gone, you can't EVER completely reconcile what you've been told happened and what actually happened.

This monster ripped a hole in the very fabric of this country.  If the people of this nation don't have an opportunity to see for themselves that he was, indeed, no-kidding taken out of the equation for good, we will NEVER be able to fully heal.

The fact that a picture is released DOES NOT MEAN that a person has to go and look at it - many people don't want to see the body of a loved one after they pass away - but the fact that they can IF THEY WANT TO makes all the difference in the world.

And there is nothing in the world like seeing the "boogeyman" - because for many people under the age of 25 who still remember that day, that is EXACTLY what he is - for what he really is.  Just flesh and bone and subject to the same laws of physics and justice as the rest of us.

You guys are so partisan you are starting to sound like the conservative version of the daily kos.

Not a good way to make friends here kiddo.  I know you have been here awhile, I read alot of your posts.  That really was uncalled for.

Posted by: cp4three2 at May 04, 2011 02:57 PM (sD1aT)

Boehner can burn in Hell next to Ted Kennedy.

Posted by: Ken at May 04, 2011 03:00 PM (65RBP)

Not to mention the families of those people on the airplanes, not all of whom were from NYC.

Drudge re not releasing the photos - Obama says "we don't need to spike the football".   But it's ok for Obama to take a victory lap around Ground Zero.

curious,

I hope you have strong legs.  Muslims will never stop asking you to jump.  

Posted by: curious at May 04, 2011 03:03 PM (k1rwm)

Oh, fucking bullshit. We're so damned partisan against democrats that we're trying to get Congress to throw out a republican for being a dumbass.

We disagree with you, a Sainted Survivor of A City Not Really That Far form Ground Zero, so we're "the conservative version of the daily kos."

Seriously, go ahead and dig that hole deeper, girl, because Honey Badger no longer gives a shit.

You probably think you're trying to disagree without being disagreeable and we're all being unreasonable, but you have insulted us over and over again and expected us to play along because you have "moral authority." You don't and I won't.

Posted by: Bomber

Ahem. According to the NYT, I have you both beat. And I demand to see pictures of a ham sandwich. JUST BECAUSSEEE!!!!!!

9/11 was an American tragedy, not NYC's alone.  Seems like there are plenty of Americans who want the photos as proof of  OBL's death.

Release the photos.  Those who need to see them will get their chance at closure then.  Also, the sooner they release the photos, the sooner we can get back to trying to fix the country's wounds from iWon's disastrous policies.

Posted by: curious at May 04, 2011 03:08 PM (k1rwm)

The only selfish bitch I see around here is you, scumbag.

Posted by: curious at May 04, 2011 03:08 PM (k1rwm)

Whoa.  There are folks on here who serve/have served and have loved ones serving in the military.  We have every right to see the pics if we so desire. 

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 04, 2011 03:12 PM (EiH7n)

No. We don't want to inflame the telephone poles.

Posted by: curious at May 04, 2011 02:55 PM (k1rwm)

So you're going to speak for the whole city of NY?  You're speaking for all the firefighters?  Police?  Or are you just speaking for your little circle of leftist buds that hang out on the Columbia campus pretending to be students there.  Your true colors are showing, curious, whether you're aware of it or not.   

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 04, 2011 03:12 PM (EiH7n)

No. We don't want to inflame the telephone poles.

Posted by: Oldcat

No one shows us any compassion.

You know what, NYer's aren't for seeing the photos and you know what they are the ones who were wholly violated.  I will never forget that day, never.  NYer's live with 9/11/2001 every single day, every day.  So you can criticize me cause you want proof but you know what NYer's are fine with just knowing justice was done.

Posted by: curious at May 04, 2011 02:55 PM (k1rwm)

New Yorker's are not the only ones that were affected by 9/11, the Cole bombing, or any of the other terror attacks where that vile POS killed innocents.   New Yorker's don't have a lock on all the crap this country has had to endure because of that murdering goatfucker.   Just because you know some New Yorker's doesn't mean you have the right to speak for the rest of the country in some mis-guided moral authority.

I usually have no problem with you except that at times you are beyond naive.   You are in the minority on this, and I say that with a healthy dose of understanding of the true nature of the American people.   You should probalem get away from your lefty friends once in a while, because their world view seems to have penetrated deeper into your conscienceness than you realize.

Here's the thing. 

The Left is all for choice when it involves sucking an unborn baby out of a woman's womb and dicing its brain.

They are not for choice when it comes to allowing Americans and the world the choice to look at pictures of a dead terrorist with his brains blown out; a terrorist whose actions led to the deaths of 3,000 people on 9/11 and hundreds more in the resulting wars.

The Left is all for choice when it involves sucking an unborn baby out of a woman's womb and dicing its brain.

They are not for choice when it comes to allowing Americans and the world the choice to look at pictures of a dead terrorist with his brains blown out; a terrorist whose actions led to the deaths of 3,000 people on 9/11 and hundreds more in the resulting wars.

Posted by: MWR

In their defense, the Left likes to block pictures of their abortion handiwork. So they are consistant in that aspect.

Wow curious, you now speak for all New Yorkers. Well done!

Will you now be telling us what your "liberal friends" think, too? All the ones that just wanted to "feel like an American" when they celebrated the death of Bin Ladin on Sunday night? Did you ask how many of them attacked Bush as a warmonger, or participated in antiwar marches a few years back? Or how many have "No Blood for Oil" stickers on their cars?

They only feel patriotic because their guy is in the White House. That's it. No love for America, at all. Fuck 'em.     

Make way for the journalists demanding to see his flag-draped [whatever the Muslim tradition] coffin in the belly of American air craft. Or perhaps a sonorous lament on the News Hour with Jim Lehrererer, followed by a moment of silence, file photo and home town.

Posted by: curious at May 04, 2011 03:08 PM (k1rwm)

I think the irony of someone who demands everyone else in the world do what THEY want calling ANYONE selfish is... familiar, somehow.

Yeah, everyone who doesn't agree with you is dumb, or a hack, or just being partisan, and no one has a right to speak up against the opinions of your special victim class.

Next up - we all want to starve children and old people, and we don't have any nuance, and selected not elected, and we're all a bunch of ignorant hicks because we chose not to live in the Shining City of Pure and Incorruptible Victimhood...

Man, talk about doubling down. This thread may be famous for more than an attribution error.

it's people like you, people from the rest of the country who have forgotten that are making everything worse

Who the fuck do you think you are to say that we've forgotten?  We were attacked as a NATION.  We have lost men and women not just on that day but in the days since then.  Our brave soldiers fight for us and even other countries against the people who attacked us - and you say we've forgotten?!

We. Will. Never. Forget.  Our children will know what happened, despite the media and hollywood trying to tell them that our soldiers are always in the wrong.  We will make sure they know of the bravery of our military and of those who have been murdered by scum sucking terrorists.

Posted by: Y-not at May 04, 2011 03:18 PM (pW2o

And isn't Nancy Pelosi's daughter a photographer?

COGNITIVE DISSONANCE, dammit.

Guess it just takes longer for some to show their true colors.

"Some lawmakers expressed similar views, saying that releasing the photos would serve little purpose and could endanger American troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.

“Imagine how the American people would react if Al Qaeda killed one of our troops or military leaders, and put photos of the body on the Internet,” said Representative Mike Rogers, Republican of Michigan and chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. “Osama bin Laden is not a trophy. He is dead, and let’s now focus on continuing the fight until Al Qaeda has been eliminated.”'

link

Posted by: logprof at May 04, 2011 03:24 PM (jN/Z/)

Agreed.  Of course, this is an emotional topic for everyone.   It's been a helluva frustrating day.

Oh curious is OK, she just lets all her commie-lib friends influence her thinking too much.

Then she comes here to get her mind right. But after the ass-chewing today, she might not return for awhile...

"Some lawmakers expressed similar views

Some people believe that the world is flat.

Some people send naked pictures of themselves to creatures on death row.

Some people think that raising taxes will magiacly generate funds and somehow not discourage growth.

Some people think that it's all right to politically profit off of the corpses of US servicemen.

Some people are fucking idiots.

Posted by: logprof at May 04, 2011 03:24 PM (jN/Z/)

curious has an "interesting perspective" sometimes, but it's annoyingly clouded by the fact that she seems to internalize every leftist thing she hears.

And, she things and always has that being from New York somehow makes you a better class of person than everyone else - or at least your opinions are more worth considering. She frequently describes opinions on the street *around her* as more important or relevant than what other people say elsewhere.

Today just combined both of those factors into an avalanche of verbal poison ivy.

link

Posted by: curious at May 04, 2011 03:25 PM (k1rwm)

“Imagine how the American people would react if Al Qaeda killed one of our troops or military leaders, and put photos of the body on the Internet,” said Representative Mike Rogers, Republican of Michigan and chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. “Osama bin Laden is not a trophy. He is dead, and let’s now focus on continuing the fight until Al Qaeda has been eliminated.”'

link
Psted by: curious at May 04, 2011 03:25 PM (k1rwm)

curious, you need to back the fuck off.   Just so you know that is mis-attributed to Rogers.   Obama said that shit.   Besides, I don't give a flying fuck what some damn pussy-ass politician has to say.

You are fucking up here by doubling down.   On this issue, you are wrong.

Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2011 03:20 PM (lSnks)

Morons have compassion sometimes.  Sometimes.  I think curious needs to put her cell phone back into her Barak-Obama-mmmmm-mmmm-mmmm lunchbox and go back to study hall.

"Some lawmakers expressed similar views

Some people believe that the world is flat.

Some people send naked pictures of themselves to creatures on death row.

Some people think that raising taxes will magiacly generate funds and somehow not discourage growth.

Some people think that it's all right to politically profit off of the corpses of US servicemen.

Some people are fucking idiots.

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 04, 2011 03:29 PM (326rv)

Some say we should nuke the entire Middle East.

Some say we should surrender to Iran and turn every building in America to a mosque.

I guess I'm the only sane person here. . . .

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 04, 2011 03:35 PM (bxiXv)

Or scared them to death. That could be true.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 04, 2011 03:35 PM (bxiXv)

Weapon silencers are a wonderful thing.

Curious, stop digging.

Candidate Barack Obama: "I will have the most transparent administration, ever."  

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 04, 2011 03:31 PM (bxiXv)

Agreed.  9/11 wasn't just a New York tragedy.  Hell, it wasn't just an AMERICAN tragedy.  There were people from dozens of countries who perished in the 9/11 attacks, and who have gone on to be killed in Iraq or Afghanistan.  The regime's decision not to release these photos is a kick to the crotch of everyone who's been affected by that day.

I think curious went over the line, but I think we're all very polarized on this topic, hence the ensuing arguments!  I would, however, like to point out that we aren't running through the streets beheading people, even though a lot of us feel genuine rage over this decision.  I take that as a win for us over the childish fools in the ME.

Posted by: curious

Or he could do what he's already done repeatedly and issue another edict executive order. Or roll over and get the benefit of the photos being out while simultaneously getting love from the useful idiots that his hand was forced.

But that implies that we're dealing with a devious political creature.....naah.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 04, 2011 03:35 PM (bxiXv)

Or scared them to death. That could be true.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 04, 2011 03:38 PM (z1N6a)

If I had a bunch of heavily armed Navy SEALS storm into my bedroom in the middle of the night, I'd probably die of fright, too.  Or at least faint.

Then I'd thank my lucky stars and pray that none of them were married. MROWR.

Posted by: Waterhouse

Said the people who said (in order)

1. We don't know where he is.

2. He certainly isn't bopping back and forth across our border

3. No, you may not police our border.

4. He's not hiding in that stove.

5. Police sgt: Oh, so Osama's hiding in that stove eh?

6.  If Osama was in that stove, would I turn on the gas like this?

7. Police sgt: You moight rabbit, you moight

8. Would I throw a lit match into that stove if Osama was hiding in there?

Some paraphrasing was involved.

4. He's not hiding in that stove.

5. Police sgt: Oh, so Osama's hiding in that stove eh?

6.  If Osama was in that stove, would I turn on the gas like this?

7. Police sgt: You moight rabbit, you moight

8. Would I throw a lit match into that stove if Osama was hiding in there?

Some paraphrasing was involved.

LMAO!

Then I'd thank my lucky stars and pray that none of them were married. MROWR.

Posted by: MWR at May 04, 2011 03:44 PM (4df7R)

That's why they would be heavily armed - to fight you off

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at May 04, 2011 03:56 PM (LFiVW)

*ahem*

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at May 04, 2011 03:56 PM (LFiVW)

*ahem*

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith

You can confirm this. If Jedi have padawans, do Sith lords have asithants?

I don't read your posts either hun, you so so so live up to your screen name.

it's people like you, people from the rest of the country who have forgotten that are making everything worse

only a selfish bitch wants to see the pics and maybe see a major city harmed...moron...moron...idiot...stupido...
 

Oh you sweet little lamb. No need to explain why you don't read my comments. I understand that big words can be scary and confusing.

As the selfish bitch in question I would be remiss if I didn't point out that nowhere did I demand that the pictures be released. Reading comprehension seems a problem for you. dear. I certainly wouldn't object to their release but neither am a calling for it.

My objection rested solely with your unmitagated gall. You are an offensive little twit.

Oh my. I've gone and used big words again. My bad.

Why should we release the photos?

Releasing those photos will give a huge number of Osama followers closure.  Why do I want to give that to them?

I know he's dead.  You know he's dead.  What are you, a ghoul who just "needs to see?"

Grow up.  Treat the scum who follow Osama the same way he treated the victims' families from 9/11.  They know their loved one is dead, but without a body, a photo, or anything there will always be that gnawing lack of closure.  They said goodbye to their loved one in the morning, and never saw them again.

Let the scum know that we killed their bastard leader, and that they can either take our word for it or not.  But we aren't helping them sleep at night by providing proof.

Give them false hope.  Let their pain linger.

I hope those pictures are locked up for 100 years.

No closure for the bastards who followed and supported this animal.

You can confirm this. If Jedi have padawans, do Sith lords have asithants?

Posted by: Jar Jar Binks at May 04, 2011 04:07 PM (Gzv/o)

Shut up, you!

You got sucked into a jet engine, I *clearly* remember applauding!

Please call for Congressman Mike Rogers to resign his position as Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee as I view his comments on the release of the bin Laden photos to be those of an incompetent idiot. Numerous photos of US citizens and military butchered by the adherents of islam have been plentifully displayed on the Arab media as recruiting tools. As a citizen, I deserve to see these photos of bin Laden. If the islamists riot and kill, their true anti-civilization colors will shine through and with no reflection on American ideals. I also think the Pakis deserve not one cent of my tax dollars. They are an abomination and have screwed the US for years.

Is anyone going to correct the correction. And will the troll admit he's wrong?

Not curious,. the other troll.

In a court, a murder victim's family gets the opportunity to directly confront the murderer.  Victim's families are also given the opportunity to witness the execution of the murderer.  Well, Bin Laden is the murder of 3,000 members of my Amercian family and I want to opportunity to "witness" it. 

Excellent point.  Last week I watched a pre-Royal wedding special which noted that when Princess Diana was killed, the Queen failed to understand the connection the people of England had to Diana.  The Queen initially botched her response (ie, wouldn't raise the flag half mast, no public statement or visibility) and did not understand the outpouring of emotion regarding Diana's death.

It seems Obama is doing a similar thing here.  He doesn't "get it."  The Queen was removed from her people physically and by class; in our case Obama's lack of American-ness once again obscures his understanding the OBL situation from our point of view.  He doesn't think or feel like an American because his formative years were not spent her physically or idealogically.

I see I'm late to the party.