September 03, 2011
— Dave in Texas Crazy guess here, politics.
And timing. The Energy Reliability Council of Texas on Thursday issued their impact assessment response to the EPA's Cross-State Air Pollution Rule, imposed in July, compliance demanded by January 2012.
ERCOT manages and operates the entire Texas power grid. If you haven't noticed, Texas and a good part of the central US has been gripped in the worst heat wave and drought since 1980. Six times this summer ERCOT has imposed "Level 2" restrictions as the power demand threatened to exceed the capabilities of the grid to supply, and large consumers who have established agreements with ERCOT were shut down to conserve power on those 108 degree days.
Level 3 is rolling blackouts.
By the way, the EPA also grabbed control from the State of Texas on new plant construction, so there isn't any.
ERCOT's assessment looked at three scenarios... I'll summarize them.
"Texas power producers will cut production from 2 to 8%. Period."
So here's what that means. Government imposed rolling blackouts.
Six times this summer demand rose within the threshold of reserve capacity. Reserve capacity is 1750Mw (or was, on August 4). That's less than 2% of total generation capacity.
I suspect the unpopularity of government imposed blackouts was a bridge too far for Obama. But it won't be if he survives the 2012 election. It'll be a feature, not a problem.
Also, why this is a big deal.
Because his policies, his directives to the EPA, hurt his re-election chances. They kill jobs. They piss people off with higher prices for energy and NO F*&IN access to energy.
Obama wants you to sweat and pay 4 times what you do now, for the privilege of sweating in the dark.
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Leftard enviro-jihadis won't be happy until we're all living in mud huts. I honestly believe Leftism is a real mental illness.
Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at September 03, 2011 09:24 AM (ehEyA)
The stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure realized that this was going to be a bitter beatdown on him during the debates....and most likely will be anyway.
Either way..YOU be the one to tell 25 million mostly armed to the teeth Texans that the government is going to shut your power down because unicorn farts don't really work after all.........
Posted by: Hill Country Texan at September 03, 2011 09:28 AM (os37T)
What would they do?
Stop federal money would only mean that Texas would shut off the money going to WDC.
What can the EPA realistically do to Texas? Little is my thought.
Posted by: jukin at September 03, 2011 09:29 AM (vkkNZ)
Posted by: Dr Spank at September 03, 2011 09:29 AM (1fB+3)
But it won't be if he survives the 2012 election.
I shudder to think about a lame-duck Obama. He would be an unbridled wrecking machine.
Posted by: soothie at September 03, 2011 09:29 AM (gGgsq)
Posted by: Jean at September 03, 2011 09:32 AM (WkuV6)
I shudder to think about a lame-duck Obama. He would be an unbridled wrecking machine.
To ease your fears on that, think of him running amok with another term in office.
Posted by: USS Diversity at September 03, 2011 09:36 AM (aD5Kx)
Posted by: Mephitis at September 03, 2011 09:37 AM (hAI7R)
Use handpuppets, if you have them
Posted by: Wickedsoothsayerpinto at September 03, 2011 01:24 PM (gGgsq)
Flannelgraph, please.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 03, 2011 09:37 AM (pZdVP)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 03, 2011 09:40 AM (eOXTH)
I think presidents are considered "lame-ducks" if they lose reelection OR soon after they are reelected.
Posted by: soothie at September 03, 2011 09:41 AM (gGgsq)
Posted by: er at September 03, 2011 09:43 AM (mexsR)
Posted by: Perky Pamela Geller at September 03, 2011 09:43 AM (1fB+3)
Posted by: zex at September 03, 2011 09:44 AM (SnUx/)
Posted by: Ms Choksondik at September 03, 2011 09:46 AM (nxptv)
Posted by: izoneguy at September 03, 2011 09:46 AM (i6Neb)
Posted by: Dick "Shovel Ready" Obama at September 03, 2011 09:46 AM (/q/kQ)
I think presidents are considered "lame-ducks" if they lose reelection OR soon after they are reelected.
Posted by: soothie at September 03, 2011 01:41 PM (gGgsq)
In O's case, it's lame dick and he's always been one.
Posted by: Ms Choksondik at September 03, 2011 09:47 AM (nxptv)
No, it is because the companies I was interested in procuring, have already had their prices suppressed enough by the threat of the Ozone Regulation... investors were divesting prior to its implementation...
I am done buying, so it is time to put the dogs back on the Leash, for awhile...
Posted by: Georog Soros at September 03, 2011 09:47 AM (NtXW4)
Posted by: steevy at September 03, 2011 09:48 AM (1Nzoh)
hey, isn't it funny that Obama's Department of Social Justice is suing 17 banks, including Bank of America?
hahahaha & Warren Buffet
Posted by: soothie at September 03, 2011 09:49 AM (gGgsq)
Posted by: sifty no like SCoaMF at September 03, 2011 09:49 AM (4CSeG)
A word.
The corruption of this administration will not be contained amidst a country facing economic collapse.
There will be indictments swirling around this administration.
The public is acutely fatigued with the blatant corruption and circumvention of law this administration has engaged in.
Posted by: journolist at September 03, 2011 09:50 AM (Fb9Q0)
Posted by: moki at September 03, 2011 09:51 AM (dZmFh)
Problem is, that the US Government has the Power to freeze all funds of an institutioin IF they believe it is being used to perpetuate a felony...
Outgrowth of the war on drugs... same type of law they used to get the Gibson Guitar Woods.... you then have to go to court to UNFREEZE those assets...
So, they freeze the funds of the Power companies, because they are not in compliance with Fed Law... and the banks, being part of the Banking Fed Gov Cleptocracy, will do it....
Posted by: Georog Soros at September 03, 2011 09:52 AM (NtXW4)
oh!
Howie Carr did his radio show yesterday from Chicken Bones restaurant and bar.
That's where Uncle Obungo was at before he got pinched for DUI.
Posted by: soothie at September 03, 2011 09:54 AM (gGgsq)
This admin is a freak show. And they'll likely touch off a lot more than marching in the streets if they don't tone down the Che clique of their party.
Posted by: sifty no like SCoaMF at September 03, 2011 09:54 AM (4CSeG)
There will be indictments. This country is in an imminent state of collapse, which is being augmented by this administration's incalcitrant lawlessness.
The corruption and meddling is tangible to the extent there is now a wholesale lack of confidence with this administration and their divisive political tactics.
Public sentiment is a tide that will derail this administration.
Posted by: journolist at September 03, 2011 09:56 AM (Fb9Q0)
Posted by: Barack Obama President of the United States at September 03, 2011 09:56 AM (SjdO4)
Uncle Obungo worked at a liquor store. Howie found out from the local patrons that Obama's uncle's nickname is "Stinky."
Patrons to the liquor store say he stinks pretty bad.
Posted by: soothie at September 03, 2011 09:56 AM (gGgsq)
Posted by: mpfs, TPT, O is SCFOAMF at September 03, 2011 09:57 AM (zRCyr)
Posted by: er at September 03, 2011 09:57 AM (mexsR)
Depends. Your mudhut has to be smaller then theirs. Cause they are the vanguard of the proletariat and all.
Posted by: pep at September 03, 2011 09:57 AM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 03, 2011 10:00 AM (eMPxE)
Obama is the head of the Democratic Party.
He is responsible for their tone and vitriolic rhetoric.
Ladies and Gentlemen, join a tea party and stand up.
This is your country and you have inalienable rights.
Stand up .... like now.
Posted by: journolist at September 03, 2011 10:00 AM (Fb9Q0)
And if Texas tells the FedGov to go piss up a rope, other states might follow suit, and then what happens? Federalism, that's what. Washington gets defanged without a civil war, without a secession, and without a shot being fired.
Sounds like a plan.
Posted by: brian at September 03, 2011 10:01 AM (y05cf)
It's a sock, ya dope...
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at September 03, 2011 10:02 AM (uehxp)
Remember when Bush was going to cancel elections and declare martial law, rather than step down and relenquish power?
Good thing we don't have to worry about anything like that with Obama.
Posted by: gebrauchshund at September 03, 2011 10:03 AM (iYwUw)
They send agents in, the state police, rangers, and national guard refuse to comply.
They can't send in the army.
They try to freeze assets, the FRB of Texas says "No"?
I mean, FedGov is really powerless to do a damned thing about it.
Posted by: brian at September 03, 2011 10:05 AM (y05cf)
Texas couldn't stand up to the US military. Nobody can. But deep in his reptile brain, Obama has got to doubt whether the military would follow his orders. I doubt they would, or at least a significant portion wouldn't.
Posted by: pep at September 03, 2011 10:05 AM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: moki at September 03, 2011 10:05 AM (dZmFh)
Posted by: ciceroskip at September 03, 2011 10:07 AM (+Tlj1)
Posted by: jukin at September 03, 2011 10:09 AM (vkkNZ)
I hate to say this, but an insurgency in the US would be a nightmare for the military. We simply wouldn't have the manpower to handle widespread insurrection, and the resources and ingenuity of plenty of US citizens would make some of the threats we face in places like Afghanistan look like child's play.
Posted by: Alex at September 03, 2011 10:09 AM (r9Nf8)
imagine if McCain won in 2008...
McCain would've been a terrible president. The economy would be almost as bad as it is now. Instead of Obamacare, we would have Amnesty, which is even worse.
And if McCain won in '08, Nancy Pelosi would still be Speaker of the House.
Posted by: soothie at September 03, 2011 10:10 AM (gGgsq)
But absent a declaration of secession, what justification does SCOAMF have to violate Posse Comitatus? The military will likely tell him to FOAD in that case.
Same thought I had of what happens if 25 of the Fortune 500 decided they were no longer going to do automatic income tax withholding and their employees were responsible for it instead? Does the IRS really have the balls to take out that big a chunk of the GDP to enforce the law?
Posted by: brian at September 03, 2011 10:10 AM (y05cf)
I'm actually glad we're in the position we've got now.
Yet another RINO would have caused the wound to fester until it killed us off completely. Things would have remained "covered up" to the view of the average citizen.
What we've got now is pain, but I've got enough optimism to believe we will live through and learn from the experience.
FWIW, I voted in the last election holding my nose.
Posted by: jwb7605 at September 03, 2011 10:11 AM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: er at September 03, 2011 10:12 AM (mexsR)
The only good thing we'd get with McCain would be two slightly less awful Court justices.
Instead of Sotomayormccheese and Elvis Kagan, we'd have two Steven Breyers.
Posted by: soothie at September 03, 2011 10:13 AM (gGgsq)
Sheer awesomeness?
Posted by: pep at September 03, 2011 10:15 AM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: Max Power at September 03, 2011 10:17 AM (q177U)
Here in southwest Ohio, my electricity bill increased 33% in the Spring. Of course, we're using the eeeeeeeeeeevil coal-fired generators.
I'm sure the Obamabots blame the power company. Thanks again 52%.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at September 03, 2011 10:18 AM (M0NzJ)
Posted by: Beto Ochoa at September 03, 2011 10:20 AM (lpWVn)
Texas couldn't stand up to the US military. Nobody can. But deep in his reptile brain, Obama has got to doubt whether the military would follow his orders. I doubt they would, or at least a significant portion wouldn't.
I hate to say this, but an insurgency in the US would be a nightmare for the military. We simply wouldn't have the manpower to handle widespread insurrection, and the resources and ingenuity of plenty of US citizens would make some of the threats we face in places like Afghanistan look like child's play
Exactly. That would trigger a war that the SCOAMFJEF could never win. The Japanese were quite rightly concerned about that during WW2- "a rifle behind every blade of grass". I think this is one civil war that would play out very differently.
Posted by: Bill H at September 03, 2011 10:23 AM (FKMW3)
Then to top it all off, the beavers attacked and destroyed my 25'row of raspberries last night. My patch is floating all over the river.
The Doom. It is everywhere.
Posted by: Derak at September 03, 2011 10:23 AM (BGqaF)
Then to top it all off, the beavers attacked and destroyed my 25'row of raspberries last night. My patch is floating all over the river.
at dusk...they get frisky at dusk. best time for beaver 'floating down the river'
they've done damage to lots of trees at our farm. we don't take prisoners.
Posted by: pitchforksandpowder at September 03, 2011 10:29 AM (lhnjO)
Posted by: mike at September 03, 2011 10:33 AM (CvkWF)
Here's what I want to know.
How did Obama muzzle Steven Chu?
Posted by: soothie at September 03, 2011 01:27 PM (gGgsq)
Same way they muzzle Joe Biden. Give him interesting problems to occupy his attention. In Bidens's case, it's choo-choo trains and tinker toys. In Chu's case, it's things like new solar cell designs. Chu is academic in every sense of the word through and through, and has proved himself unable and unwilling to question the big picture. Just quit giving him the administration's absurd socialist energy policy positions to parrot, ask for no more petroleum coal and electric power industry liason ('energy prevention') and he'll tend to muzzle himself. Just let him work on the sweet technical details of gallium nitride semiconductors in a room somewhere and slide a pizza under the door twice a day.
Posted by: Anthony Weiner at September 03, 2011 10:34 AM (SYrAh)
Crazy guess here, politics.
what else does this administation have? oh, yeah, another jobs speech.
btw, what was the general consenus on beverages for/during the speech? to lazy to look
Posted by: pitchforksandpowder at September 03, 2011 10:35 AM (lhnjO)
Obama can't call in the Army to challenge Texas. Half the Army is FROM Texas.
Seriously, I am really waiting for one state, perhaps Texas, to tell Obama to stuff it. No Texas governor (I'm looking at you, Perry) should allow the feds to destroy the state's economy and energy over leftard environazi bullshit.
Posted by: Scott at September 03, 2011 10:36 AM (S3AFi)
Posted by: SFGoth at September 03, 2011 10:36 AM (lRjUK)
Posted by: moki at September 03, 2011 10:36 AM (dZmFh)
The common people would live in mud huts, our 'betters' would live in bamboo mansions.
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at September 03, 2011 10:39 AM (ijjAe)
He's down to "racists" and "eeeeeevil Christians" now, and that's not really campaign material; it's damn near assured suicide.
Good!
Posted by: dad29 at September 03, 2011 10:44 AM (ARZIQ)
@74 i remember that. i giggled then, and i'm giggling about it now. could not beleive they trapped the damned things and moved them.
of course, there was this person i knew years ago, that once something was trapped, it went for an extended swim. i don't do cruelty. on.clean.shot.
Posted by: pitchforksandpowder at September 03, 2011 10:46 AM (lhnjO)
He's down to "racists" and "eeeeeevil Christians" now, and that's not really campaign material; it's damn near assured suicide.
and tea party terrorists
Posted by: pitchforksandpowder at September 03, 2011 10:48 AM (lhnjO)
One more year like this year, and there may not be a Texas left to consume power. The entire state is in a severe drought, although a small portion of North Texas is in moderate drought. Wildfires have burned and burned and burned. Most of our beloved ranch land is nothing but dead grass. The cattle industry has been decimated. When you start trying to feed 500 head of cattle it's bad. When you have to haul water to them, forget it. Some portions of West Texas have had 1 inch of rain this year, some of it has had 0.
We're overrun with illegals, our schools are getting their budgets cut, our roads and traffic suck. Obama's bullshit drilling rules are keeping us from producing even more gas and oil than we are, thus killing our ability to create even more jobs than we have already.
But we still persevere. It will rain again sometime. And God willing, we won't have to put with a stuttering clusterfuck of a President past 2012.We are a lot of things in this State, but quitters ain't one of them. If we have to provide jobs to the rest of the country, so be it. And we still have lots of room for anyone that wants to move here and enjoy our Republic. (I'd re-consider a decision to do so if you are liberal, progressive or from San Francisco.)
Posted by: mikeyslaw at September 03, 2011 10:50 AM (QMGr1)
The army would follow orders and uphold their constitutional obligations to submit to civilian authority. However I'm sure the armed army would find a way to follow those orders and the constitution while circumventing the actual intent of the absurd orders. "We're sorry Mr. President but that tank division you ordered to crush the rebellion was 'overrun' and forced to abandon all their equipment, which has fallen into the rebels' hands. -Also the entire Navy had engine trouble and was forced to surrender to rebel privateers which have now commandeered our ships. -You won't believe me either sir, but apparently the entire air force is grounded due to most of our pilots having a 'stomach bug'...."
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at September 03, 2011 10:50 AM (ijjAe)
The same authority that Eisenhower had when he sent the 101st Airborne into Little Rock to help desegregate the schools. And Obama could nationalize the TNG and use it to enforce the regime's edicts.
Forget about armed resistance: that ended when Pickett's Charge failed in 1863.
Posted by: Brown Line at September 03, 2011 11:02 AM (k+PSJ)
Posted by: Brown Line at September 03, 2011 11:04 AM (k+PSJ)
Posted by: Barack H. Obama at September 03, 2011 11:42 AM (I8foQ)
But so do RINOs. Look at Romney, even Perry hasn't stood up to the EPA. Jindahls done a far better job than Perry. Look at the history of power plant construction. When was the last plant built in the USA? Now try and blame it on Obama.
Further look at Bush's record on energy and tell me that the RINOs can be trusted.
Posted by: Molon Labe at September 03, 2011 12:14 PM (e36+G)
Posted by: Barack H. Obama at September 03, 2011 12:18 PM (I8foQ)
Posted by: kbdabear at September 03, 2011 12:29 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Piñon Farmer at September 03, 2011 12:57 PM (IzuWw)
Posted by: Ernst Blofeld at September 03, 2011 01:00 PM (V7mkK)
Posted by: CMU VET at September 03, 2011 02:34 PM (m+0Zk)
The timing on BHO's rollback of the EPA regs is.....interesting.
You just know he didn't want to do this. The question is, what's making him do it now?....The GOP candidates have been remarking on 'over regulation'. And Barry wants to at least look like he cares about it....but still, the timing of it makes it look like he's just doing it to lay the groundwork for his Big Speech.
And my prayers go out for Texas. I hope they get some rain soon. A long drought is such a slow heartbreaking nightmare.....plus the fires added to that misery....my heart goes out to my neighbors to the south. Texas has endured enough already. Here's hoping they get some relief soon.
Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at September 03, 2011 03:12 PM (EprMc)
#85
Correct you are sir! The military is not the enemy of the people but the protector. It cannot be used against citizens.
For a "smart military blog" seems a lot of folks here don't understand how the military works. Perry needs to bring back the Draft so folks will become more knowledgeable in this area.
Posted by: Doug S at September 03, 2011 03:29 PM (bGgEi)
Posted by: Dave in Texas at September 03, 2011 03:55 PM (PjVdx)
Posted by: Choey at September 03, 2011 04:48 PM (ePbeg)
Posted by: The Disappearing Spoon Audiobook at September 04, 2011 05:19 AM (lr9w5)
So it's safe to assert that the EPA is not so much concerned about the environment, but in how to wield democrat power.
Time to abolish it.
Posted by: Mueller at September 04, 2011 05:20 AM (/AU3V)
Soldier, shoot your grandmother!
Sir! Yes sir!
yeah, I see that happening. I'd shoot the motherf*cker that gives that kind of order.
Posted by: Case at September 04, 2011 10:18 PM (DYR2Q)
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this is too complicated
break it down for us
Posted by: Wickedsoothsayerpinto at September 03, 2011 09:24 AM (gGgsq)