September 17, 2011
— CAC It is now unlikely that the electoral vote proposal in Pennsylvania will pass, and there are reasons against going for it, rather thoroughly explained by Nate Silver of the New York Times.
However, set aside the drawbacks and the dimming likelihood for a moment. Republicans control the statehouses and gov mansions in Michigan, Ohio and Wisconsin as well. Three of these four have proven themselves election teases, yet in several elections the Republican Presidential candidate won a majority of the congressional districts (Michigan in 2000 and 2004 being the ugliest example of this, with George W Bush clearly winning 10 districts and still losing the state).
Democrats love to push the national popular vote, saying its more just. Well, what is the Republican counter-argument about "justness" and seeking accurate representation of the voters, on a state level? (Warning- large map below)
You know what Democrats, elections have consequences, though the Republicans haven't really taken the electoral bull by the horns. So, if Corbett & Co. are serious in the Keystone state, why aren't we pressuring Snyder, Kasich, and Walker to do the same in theirs? Yes, of course if Democrats took control of Texas, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, etc we could face the reverse. It isn't outside the realm of possibility that Democrats could surge to victory in recapturing the state governments of the Solid South, certainly after their party's enormously popular health care overhaul, budgeting, and tax hike proposals, right?
Anyways, fappable food for thought, brought to life by our own John E.
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This would happen all over the nation for Red States. In addition, as I said earlier, there was a reason the founders worked out this great compromise. I am reluctant to tinker with it.
Posted by: Vic at September 17, 2011 02:30 PM (M9Ie6)
Section 1 - The President Note1 Note2
The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice-President chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows:
Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector."
Posted by: newrouter at September 17, 2011 03:26 PM (xD4bD)
Posted by: steevy at September 17, 2011 03:27 PM (fyOgS)
Posted by: sven10077 at September 17, 2011 03:29 PM (AEIYh)
stolen from Sondrakistan.com
A black guy, a Muslim, and a Communist walk into a bar.
The bartender asks, “What can I get you, Mr. President?”
Posted by: robtr at September 17, 2011 03:29 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at September 17, 2011 03:31 PM (ijjAe)
Posted by: dagny at September 17, 2011 03:36 PM (5CFay)
I think that a bill has been proposed in Ohio that would count electoral votes only according to the districts that are won or lost.
I think.
Posted by: ErikW at September 17, 2011 03:36 PM (72ax/)
This is some pretty loose shit. Colorist, mappulous and NOT funny. Let's tighten it up - tighter than a Carradine knot - around here.
Ha ha! And probably racist, too. Why aren't any of the states on the map black. What is that map so ashamed of?
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 17, 2011 03:36 PM (AF1jB)
Just so you know Massachusetts changed the law such that votes in our state don't matter. Whatever the popular national vote says is what determines how the Massachusetts state electors will vote.
Because? They want to be hip?
Posted by: dagny at September 17, 2011 03:37 PM (5CFay)
Posted by: forest at September 17, 2011 03:40 PM (yCT6Q)
Posted by: forest at September 17, 2011 07:40 PM (yCT6Q)
That was mostly for visual purposes, the congressional districts illustrated do not reflect redistricting. Votes D for Congress, R for President.
Posted by: CAC at September 17, 2011 03:43 PM (DwjEr)
Posted by: Michelle Beard at September 17, 2011 03:43 PM (HfA9V)
Posted by: forest at September 17, 2011 03:44 PM (yCT6Q)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 17, 2011 03:51 PM (z/Mo8)
Posted by: alexthechick at September 17, 2011 03:53 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Ronster at September 17, 2011 03:53 PM (/ej8I)
Tighter than a too-small sandy swim suit on Christina Hendricks on a too-long ride home from the beach.
Posted by: Dan Rather at September 17, 2011 03:54 PM (PidTa)
Folks, time for this one to turn in for the night. Ya'll keep it between the ditches.
Posted by: Vic at September 17, 2011 03:56 PM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: The Smoking Man at September 17, 2011 03:58 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 17, 2011 04:00 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Dan Rather at September 17, 2011 04:04 PM (PidTa)
Posted by: flapjackmaka at September 17, 2011 04:04 PM (TF7ta)
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at September 17, 2011 07:31 PM (ijjAe)
im curious as to the constitutionality of such a law. the constitution gives the states power to appoint the electors but doesnt say they can determine how they are supposed to vote.
Posted by: chas at September 17, 2011 04:05 PM (xAq1C)
Posted by: steevy at September 17, 2011 04:06 PM (fyOgS)
“[Larry] Summers walked in, slightly late, but not impolitely so, and met Orszag at the table. And then it was the two of them. Orszag hoped that this time the White House would be less fraught with strife than the last go-round during the 1990s. Summers said it kind of came with the territory. This talk of their shared history seemed to thaw things out. They both grabbed for the plate of flatbreads … and tore corners at the discus-sized breads. ‘You know, Peter, we’re really home alone.’ Over the past few months, Summers had said this, in a stage whisper, to Orszag and others as they left the morning economic briefings in the Oval Office. … ‘I mean it,’ Summers stressed. ‘We’re home alone. There’s no adult in charge. Clinton would never have made these mistakes.’”
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at September 17, 2011 04:07 PM (o2lIv)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 17, 2011 04:07 PM (z/Mo8)
Because they think the massive population centers will always vote for the Democrap. (Is this a DOOM thread? I feel DOOMy.)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at September 17, 2011 04:08 PM (0vDuM)
Posted by: flapjackmaka at September 17, 2011 08:04 PM (TF7ta)
So am I supposed to go over there or something?
Not.
Posted by: ErikW at September 17, 2011 04:09 PM (72ax/)
Posted by: rickl at September 17, 2011 04:12 PM (veJeO)
Not.
Posted by: ErikW at September 17, 2011 08:09 PM (72ax/)
I don't even have it bookmarked.
Can you tell us FJM?
Posted by: Tami at September 17, 2011 04:12 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: CoolCzech at September 17, 2011 04:16 PM (niZvt)
Why even stop at individuals? We have the technology, so let's split each person's vote while we're at it.
Say I could go into a polling place undecided and vote accordingly. "I'm not sure about Obama, but I'm not sure about McCain either. I guess I'm 60-40 for Obama, so I'll fill out the ballot that way." When I leave, Obama gets 0.6 votes and McCain gets 0.4 votes. All the squishy independents that don't want to commit to a decision can have their way.
(John E.'s considerable map-making skills would really be tested.)
Posted by: FireHorse at September 17, 2011 04:18 PM (F5OMl)
It's a piece about what she said on Leno.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at September 17, 2011 04:18 PM (o2lIv)
Posted by: Peaches at September 17, 2011 07:46 PM (/ybwc)
Too funny.
Posted by: lou at September 17, 2011 04:19 PM (R21xD)
Posted by: CoolCzech at September 17, 2011 04:19 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: CoolCzech at September 17, 2011 04:20 PM (niZvt)
Can you tell us FJM?
Posted by: Tami at September 17, 2011 08:12 PM (X6akg)
I don't either, I'm guessing it a bunch of bullshit by now.
Posted by: ErikW at September 17, 2011 04:20 PM (72ax/)
Posted by: Rusty Nail at September 17, 2011 04:22 PM (QxGmu)
Posted by: Oldcat at September 17, 2011 04:22 PM (CN+Qv)
Tighter than Michelle Bachman's legs at a Merck & Co. executive retreat.
Posted by: Dan Rather at September 17, 2011 04:22 PM (PidTa)
Posted by: CoolCzech at September 17, 2011 08:20 PM (niZvt)
I swear to gosh, these people should be attacking Obama, ya gotta give Newt credit. And no, I doubt she would back Perry.
Posted by: lou at September 17, 2011 04:24 PM (R21xD)
I'm guessing she won't. She is off the reservation and gettin' her freak on. I would dearly love to see the last of her, as soon as possible.
Posted by: Peaches at September 17, 2011 04:27 PM (/ybwc)
Posted by: CoolCzech at September 17, 2011 04:27 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: No need to thank me- I enjoy being helpful at September 17, 2011 04:28 PM (zVHzM)
"if Perry is nominated, will she get in line and support him?"
I would guess no. The thing that is most disappointing is the LSM is using her, her words and her positions to define the Tea Party, and she acts like she is speaking for them many times.
Posted by: johnc_recent_EXdem at September 17, 2011 04:29 PM (ACkhT)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at September 17, 2011 04:30 PM (5Z/+/)
they only see the "enemy" 3 feet away not the "won" 12....
speaking of which given his SecTreas and the Fed boss' love of QE if hyperinflation ever hits we'll all be millionaires....
Posted by: sven10077 at September 17, 2011 04:32 PM (AEIYh)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at September 17, 2011 04:32 PM (5Z/+/)
Posted by: Johnny (John E.) at September 17, 2011 04:33 PM (nRTou)
"if Perry is nominated, will she get in line and support him?"
i think she will. she has to run for her seat next year and she'll need party support and very likely support from the nominee.
maybe someone will primary her as punishment for her crazy ass behavior
Posted by: chas at September 17, 2011 04:33 PM (xAq1C)
"I'm curious if downtown is going to be a mess this week."
Zerohedge seems to be following it, they have a livestream link on their site tracking it.
Posted by: johnc_recent_EXdem at September 17, 2011 04:33 PM (ACkhT)
exactly....my side was not the one who started the little game....it is Soros and the donks because they are butthurt that the founders were smart enough to thwart AlGore...
Posted by: sven10077 at September 17, 2011 04:33 PM (AEIYh)
Posted by: steevy at September 17, 2011 04:34 PM (fyOgS)
i think she will. she has to run for her seat next year and she'll need party support and very likely support from the nominee.
maybe someone will primary her as punishment for her crazy ass behavior
Posted by: chas at September 17, 2011 08:33 PM (xAq1C)
Maybe she thinks if she can screw Perry, she will get the vp nod.
Posted by: lou at September 17, 2011 04:35 PM (R21xD)
Yeah Germany told Timmy Turbo Tax to go fu*k himself so thanks for proving me correct again Bury
Posted by: sven10077 at September 17, 2011 04:35 PM (AEIYh)
Posted by: steevy at September 17, 2011 04:37 PM (fyOgS)
Posted by: Dan Rather at September 17, 2011 04:37 PM (PidTa)
Three cheers for lazy fat fuck drunken union sloths making an ungodly amount of money for being lazy fat fuck drunken union sloths on the job!
Posted by: libtard w/librul logik at September 17, 2011 04:38 PM (CQCIL)
slinging donk shit sorta is....
you have the Red Barry and his failing circus trying to pass the "buffet Rool" etc etc etc....
best angle of attack from this fairly non-partisan Republican so far as WHO gets in the big chair is "I can undo this mess and get us back to work faster BECAUSE"....
you can't believe how in love I am with Mitt boxing himself in on entitlement reform....
"really"
Posted by: sven10077 at September 17, 2011 04:39 PM (AEIYh)
I had a UAW retiree admit to me that the current empowered union is retarded, and will kill his pension by the time he is 72
Posted by: sven10077 at September 17, 2011 04:40 PM (AEIYh)
*waves to a fellow Hoosier*
Posted by: lu at September 17, 2011 04:41 PM (CQCIL)
Posted by: steevy at September 17, 2011 08:37 PM (fyOgS)
We have to get obama out of office. That should shelve this bs.
Posted by: lou at September 17, 2011 04:41 PM (R21xD)
Posted by: sven10077 at September 17, 2011 04:42 PM (AEIYh)
Jon Meacham, a Pulitzer-Prize-winning biographer of presidents, told POLITICO that for Obama to compare himself to Carter could be a “a history-sized mistake.”
“For 30 years, fairly or no,” Meacham emailed, “‘Carter’ has been political and cultural shorthand for an ineffectual and uninspiring president who is captive to, rather than captain of, events. To compare oneself to President Carter is kind of like Nixon evoking Harding.”
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at September 17, 2011 04:42 PM (o2lIv)
heh I live in Johnson county....built a house here actually.
I am from Ohio but after 15 years wandering the various posts in the south I am glad to be near home.
Posted by: sven10077 at September 17, 2011 04:43 PM (AEIYh)
Posted by: steevy at September 17, 2011 04:43 PM (fyOgS)
Posted by: lu at September 17, 2011 04:44 PM (CQCIL)
If you want to get a visual on the metroplex peeps and how they look, that is, if you are like me an live in a nowheresville flyover place, go on HGTV and watch any show at all. The venues are all from the big places, most all of them, and the people you see are all democrats.
Anywhere you go that there is a Starbucks on every other corner, the voting is D. If you can see some distance from the road out to some greenery of some type, and you are passing a Quality Farm and Fleet, you are in R country.
Posted by: Barry the JEF at September 17, 2011 04:45 PM (4sQwu)
Posted by: steevy at September 17, 2011 04:45 PM (fyOgS)
Posted by: lu at September 17, 2011 04:46 PM (CQCIL)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 17, 2011 04:47 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Dante at September 17, 2011 04:47 PM (ZacuO)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 17, 2011 04:49 PM (AZGON)
Yeah, I hope it's not asking too much for our guys to land some blows on Obama in the next debate. If there's more talk about Gardisil than Solyndra I'll be disappointed.
Posted by: Dante at September 17, 2011 08:47 PM (ZacuO)
Or how about someone mention the fact he wants to over-step congress.. Yeah, that might seem like a thought.
Posted by: lou at September 17, 2011 04:49 PM (R21xD)
I'll help:
Afghanistan
the economy
supporting the murderous regime in Indonesia
Killer Wabbit
post presidency
Israel
Korea
his UN love
El Salvador
Posted by: sven10077 at September 17, 2011 04:51 PM (AEIYh)
We have to get obama out of office. That should shelve this bs.
Posted by: lou at September 17, 2011 08:41 PM (R21xD)
Look, we all knew this election was going to be about vaccines. We just need to deal with it.
Posted by: robtr at September 17, 2011 04:52 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: Dante at September 17, 2011 04:52 PM (ZacuO)
Leave it to a moonbat to try to define Carter by bringing up Nixon....
It's not perhaps the best historical comparison but he has a point.When presidents compare themselves to former president, they have to be careful and Obama couldn't have picked a worse example. Nixon choosing Harding would have been the same, fair or not.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at September 17, 2011 04:53 PM (o2lIv)
http://info-wars.org/2010/06/05/barack-obama-and-chief-of-
staff-rahm-emanuel-are-lifetime-members-of-the-same-gay-club/
Posted by: Michelle Beard at September 17, 2011 07:43 PM (HfA9V)
Sprinkle C on your johnson and see what comes down.
Posted by: Larry Sinclair at September 17, 2011 04:54 PM (SB1cp)
I'd say Hoover would have been a better example. Nixon was not personally corrupt nor particularly rewarding of his circle financially. Further rather than spurning the UN he used it as a tool. Price and wage controls and overregulation were his thing....like Hoover.
Barry would be better served being honest and saying "Buchanan" so far as that goes.
Posted by: sven10077 at September 17, 2011 04:55 PM (AEIYh)
http://tinyurl.com/437sqf8
Posted by: Tami at September 17, 2011 04:55 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 17, 2011 04:57 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Ali Khamenei at September 17, 2011 04:57 PM (ZacuO)
Posted by: steevy at September 17, 2011 08:45 PM (fyOgS)
I say we should be fair.
Jimmy Carter was the last Democrat on the national ticket not to attend law school. (Al Gore famously did the almost-impossible and flunked out.)
Posted by: AmishDude at September 17, 2011 04:57 PM (73tyQ)
Posted by: Lindsey Lohan at September 17, 2011 04:58 PM (s7mIC)
fify . . . they ain't all rich Westsiders, podna.
Posted by: Peaches at September 17, 2011 04:58 PM (/ybwc)
Posted by: lu at September 17, 2011 04:59 PM (CQCIL)
Posted by: chemjeff-husker at September 17, 2011 04:59 PM (s7mIC)
Posted by: Ice Cold Audiobook at September 17, 2011 05:00 PM (bk9WF)
fify . . . they ain't all rich Westsiders, podna.
Posted by: Peaches at September 17, 2011 08:58 PM (/ybwc)
actually, there are a *lot* of check cashing places here in St. Joe and it is pretty solidly R
Posted by: chemjeff-husker at September 17, 2011 05:00 PM (s7mIC)
ah yes...well no see using geometruic logic the Panama thing was BRILLIANT! thanks to he and Billiam the ChiComs control our most strategic naval asset....
thanks mules!
//US Navy
Posted by: sven10077 at September 17, 2011 05:00 PM (AEIYh)
Posted by: lu at September 17, 2011 05:02 PM (CQCIL)
Posted by: Ali Khamenei at September 17, 2011 05:03 PM (ZacuO)
Posted by: lou at September 17, 2011 05:05 PM (R21xD)
they are refusing to list F&F, Solyndra, et al as "executive scandals" in the Barry administration
Posted by: sven10077 at September 17, 2011 05:07 PM (AEIYh)
Now I'll have to switch between FotR and the Thousand Plane Raid on the Military channel.
Oh, and they're good for something on Thursday nights, too, if you are a Poirot fan.
Posted by: Retread at September 17, 2011 05:08 PM (BO5ap)
No wonder he brought up his jobs bill now, there is no chance of them having any time together to even discuss it.
Funny, the House and the Senate are like a couple trying to have a baby but having such conflicting schedules they never have a chance to even try.
So do the staffs get to go on vacay too?
Posted by: mcat at September 17, 2011 05:09 PM (k1rwm)
Posted by: dagny at September 17, 2011 05:09 PM (5CFay)
Posted by: dagny at September 17, 2011 09:09 PM (5CFay)
LOL! Perfect timing!
Posted by: Tami at September 17, 2011 05:10 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: sven10077 at September 17, 2011 09:07 PM (AEIYh)
The Wiki gods are a selective lot. Which is why only fools use Wiki as an absolute authoritative source.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 17, 2011 05:10 PM (c0A3e)
Ooooh yes, did not know that! That's good info.
Posted by: lu at September 17, 2011 05:11 PM (CQCIL)
I only use it for an outline...decided to go down memory land w/teapot dome and went to "Presidential scandals" on a lark.....
Frankly K I am thrilled they are so obtuse....
they refuse to see the spotlight on the train and are running to the "odd noise coming around the bend"....
faster donks, faster
Posted by: sven10077 at September 17, 2011 05:13 PM (AEIYh)
Posted by: Jean at September 17, 2011 05:14 PM (C/Pop)
Posted by: steevy at September 17, 2011 05:15 PM (fyOgS)
I get both the Baltimore and DC stations. The DC station shows the Jeremy Brett Holmes, then a double Poirot, Baltimore doesn't have such good taste.
Posted by: Retread at September 17, 2011 05:15 PM (BO5ap)
Posted by: lu at September 17, 2011 05:16 PM (CQCIL)
http://info-wars.org/2010/06/05/barack-obama-and-chief-of-
staff-rahm-emanuel-are-lifetime-members-of-the-same-gay-club/
Posted by: Michelle Beard at September 17, 2011 07:43 PM (HfA9V)
The Man's Country stuff is old news, but the connections named; oh, the connections! (Including Eric Cantor's deputy whip, who Zero really had in mind for his old seat and the check Turbo Timmeh decided not to deliver.)
Posted by: RushBabe at September 17, 2011 05:16 PM (tQHzJ)
Posted by: steevy at September 17, 2011 09:15 PM (fyOgS)
Indeed, and Army won. Good for the Good Guys!!
Posted by: lou at September 17, 2011 05:16 PM (R21xD)
Posted by: lu at September 17, 2011 09:16 PM (CQCIL)
They have good concerts on sometimes and they used to run that documentary made by that hermit that moved to Alaska in the middle of nowhere by himself. I forget his name but it was a good show.
Posted by: robtr at September 17, 2011 05:18 PM (MtwBb)
Seconded. I knew about Man's Country (and of course Reggie Love), but the rest of it is verrrry interesting.
And now I'm going to shower for having clicked an infowars link.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 17, 2011 05:21 PM (WXhxA)
Posted by: steevy at September 17, 2011 05:21 PM (fyOgS)
I'd say Hoover would have been a better example. Nixon was not personally corrupt nor particularly rewarding of his circle financially. Further rather than spurning the UN he used it as a tool. Price and wage controls and overregulation were his thing....like Hoover.
Barry would be better served being honest and saying "Buchanan" so far as that goes.
I can see that comparison, too.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at September 17, 2011 05:22 PM (o2lIv)
This guy?
http://tinyurl.com/3mt2f2z
Posted by: Retread at September 17, 2011 05:22 PM (BO5ap)
I think that was "Alone in the Wilderness", the story about Dick Proenneke.
In fact, IIRC, Dick Proenneke's endeavor to build a log cabin in Alaska using hand-sawn logs was on an ONT a while back.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 17, 2011 05:22 PM (c0A3e)
In fact, IIRC, Dick Proenneke's endeavor to build a log cabin in Alaska using hand-sawn logs was on an ONT a while back.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 17, 2011 09:22 PM (c0A3e)
Yeah that was it, your link didn't work retread. I was mesmerised by that show when they were running it.
Posted by: robtr at September 17, 2011 05:24 PM (MtwBb)
Yeah, enough to make me over come my dislike of PBS to watch him.
I liked the new Sherlock in spite of myself, and they're making more episodes.
Posted by: Retread at September 17, 2011 05:24 PM (BO5ap)
I wish ours here in Houston did that. We went and bought the DVDs since it's hard to catch some of their old Mystery! series here.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at September 17, 2011 05:26 PM (o2lIv)
Yeah that was it, your link didn't work retread. I was mesmerised by that show when they were running it.
Retread's link worked for me, *shrugs*. But he beat me, lol.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 17, 2011 05:26 PM (c0A3e)
Let's see if I can sneak this by Pixy:
http://aloneinthewilderness.com/index.html
Posted by: Retread at September 17, 2011 05:26 PM (BO5ap)
Posted by: smarty at September 17, 2011 09:25 PM (T/Ic6)
I agree but you know who is a big pusher of it? Fred Thompson.
Posted by: robtr at September 17, 2011 05:27 PM (MtwBb)
Where the hell is our MSM cadre of so-called business reporters and editors when abominations like this are rising up in the economic data? FMTT."
Posted by: mcat at September 17, 2011 05:27 PM (k1rwm)
Let's see if I can sneak this by Pixy:
http://aloneinthewilderness.com/index.html
Posted by: Retread at September 17, 2011 09:26 PM (BO5ap)
Must be me, that doesn't even work for me.
Posted by: robtr at September 17, 2011 05:28 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: lu at September 17, 2011 09:16 PM (CQCIL)
Antiques Roadshow is good. Hubby dvrs it for me. I like the people who find out they have something worth a grub of money and ya know they can really use it..
Posted by: lou at September 17, 2011 05:29 PM (R21xD)
Posted by: CrackrJak at September 17, 2011 05:29 PM (uV0Bj)
Posted by: steevy at September 17, 2011 05:30 PM (fyOgS)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 17, 2011 05:30 PM (eOXTH)
Posted by: CrackrJak at September 17, 2011 09:29 PM (uV0Bj)
Every state should do it, if they did maybe the dems would let the black people go free from the ghettos
Posted by: robtr at September 17, 2011 05:31 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 17, 2011 05:34 PM (eOXTH)
Posted by: Johnny (John E.) at September 17, 2011 05:35 PM (nRTou)
http://tinyurl.com/3ejyvl2
Made by the Attaaaaaaack Waaaaaaatch guys (Misfit Politics)
h/t Nice Deb.
Worth it just for the SOLYNDRA acronym.
Posted by: AmishDude at September 17, 2011 05:35 PM (73tyQ)
Eight states and the District of Columbia, totaling 132 electoral votes, have signed on to a plan called the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, a proposal that would use a workaround to guarantee that the winner of the national popular vote would win the Electoral College once states totaling a majority of 270 electoral votes had committed to the plan.
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at September 17, 2011 08:32 PM (5Z/+/)
Earlier today I posted some info TX historian David Barton gave on the Glenn Beck show yesterday. He said Soros is of course behind the funding to get states to adopt the "all of our pop votes will automatically translate to our state's EVs" movement. As mentioned above, he's got eight states and the D of C to sign on. He also has everyone believing that if a majority of states go for it that that will automatically bring in the rest. Wrong and unconstitutional. (But is anyone really putting up a fight against anything anymore?)
Slimy George's rationale is that the states on the East Coast as well as Cali will give Zero an easy 51% and ultimate victory. )Flyover states don't count in the commies' viewpoint anyhow.)
Posted by: RushBabe at September 17, 2011 05:36 PM (tQHzJ)
Posted by: macintx at September 17, 2011 05:38 PM (ucs8Y)
so which curious is this?
Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 17, 2011 09:30 PM (eOXTH)
Thanks, I clinked on the link to aljazeera in the last thread. Was not happy. My bad.
Posted by: lou at September 17, 2011 05:38 PM (R21xD)
Posted by: Ma Bell at September 17, 2011 05:38 PM (H/MnC)
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at September 17, 2011 05:38 PM (ijjAe)
Of course, the end result would still be that Democrats would never win another presidential election, ever. But that's a feature, not a bug.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at September 17, 2011 05:39 PM (KxADM)
so which curious is this?
Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 17, 2011 09:30 PM (eOXTH)
It's the curious that thinks it's smart enough to be a standardized test.
Posted by: not clicking just to be safe at September 17, 2011 05:42 PM (RL7U1)
Thanks, I clinked on the link to aljazeera in the last thread. Was not happy. My bad.
Posted by: lou at September 17, 2011 09:38 PM (R21xD)
didn't I say Hillary's favorite news source or something like that so you should have know it was them.
Posted by: mcat at September 17, 2011 05:42 PM (k1rwm)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 17, 2011 05:42 PM (eOXTH)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 17, 2011 09:42 PM (eOXTH)
so how much do you make shilling for Rick Perry?
Posted by: mcat at September 17, 2011 05:43 PM (k1rwm)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 17, 2011 05:44 PM (eOXTH)
Posted by: RushBabe at September 17, 2011 05:45 PM (tQHzJ)
careful
curious links to ghey pron.....male on male....she sometimes doesn't look at the links she provides...she gets them from her "friends"....her really soooper dooooper good friends that she trusts.....
Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 17, 2011 09:44 PM (eOXTH)
Thanks, lesson learned. And mcat, why the hell , oh nevermind!!
Posted by: lou at September 17, 2011 05:46 PM (R21xD)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 17, 2011 05:46 PM (eOXTH)
so how much do you make shilling for Rick Perry?
Posted by: mcat at September 17, 2011 09:43 PM (k1rwm)
More than you have ever seen. Are you really that retarded?
Posted by: Ma Bell at September 17, 2011 05:46 PM (H/MnC)
Posted by: Richard T. Clark at September 17, 2011 05:54 PM (ZacuO)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 17, 2011 05:57 PM (eOXTH)
FY 2011 ends on September 30th, so the DOE-Loan Programs Office has to take care of certain grants by then. So anyone else slated to get their loan will receive it soon.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at September 17, 2011 06:03 PM (o2lIv)
Posted by: buzzion at September 17, 2011 06:03 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 17, 2011 06:05 PM (eOXTH)
Obama is not a colon cowboy. Who are you going to believe? Me? Or your own lying eyes?
Link to recent Moonbattery post.
Posted by: Count de Monet, Tea Partying Sons of Bitches Martyrs Brigade at September 17, 2011 06:05 PM (4q5tP)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 17, 2011 06:06 PM (eOXTH)
Posted by: buzzion at September 17, 2011 10:03 PM (GULKT)
You owe me a monitor!
Posted by: Tami at September 17, 2011 06:07 PM (X6akg)
when you link to stuff you should state where it's from.....sane people don't like going to certain websites......you know like ghey pron and al jazeera
Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 17, 2011 09:57 PM (eOXTH)
The thing is, shes an asshole, not a bitch, not the cword, shes a fucking asshole.. She takes over a bunch of threads, and does not give a shit. She steals the thread. Why is she not on the corner in ny with the rest of the fucking losers who hate this country?
Posted by: lou at September 17, 2011 06:08 PM (R21xD)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 17, 2011 06:15 PM (eOXTH)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 17, 2011 06:18 PM (eOXTH)
yes, she does....some think i should ignore her and maybe they are right....i want her to explain her posts....they are fabrications.....and she can't explain them.....i use her own words against her and she can only hurl insults......
Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 17, 2011 10:15 PM (eOXTH)
I am with you. She will never explain, thats what assholes do, they run and hide when presented with facts.
Posted by: lou at September 17, 2011 06:21 PM (R21xD)
I read Silver's column, and I'm underwhelmed by his arguments. "The [PA] plan could undermine the integrity of the Electoral College"?? Puh-leeze. He calls the Soros plan a "workaround" later on in the article, as if that plan were legit and PA's isn't. What a hypocrite. I think the donks are really still ticked off about losing the 2000 election and cover their rage in populist-sounding 'fairness' language.
I'm a big fan of the Electoral College. I see real genius in it, and I think not having it would mean candidates would campaign only in the major population centers and never get to the hinterlands ... which is exactly what I think the dems would love to do.
Which brings me back to the 2000 election. Yeah, Florida and hanging chads and "Bush stole the election". Spare me. Gore (iirc) never once that year campaigned in West Virginia after his book made him a pariah in a state full of coal and bitter clingers. WV had gone dem in all but three presidential elections since the Depression, and it should have been easy pickings for Gore. Had he won WV - which he should have - he would have amassed 271 electoral votes even without Florida, making hanging chads and the Supreme Court non-issues. But our progressive friends need an outlet for their precious rage, hence the subsequent years of Bush hate.
Posted by: crisis du jour at September 17, 2011 06:22 PM (J1eJz)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 17, 2011 06:24 PM (eOXTH)
Posted by: Johnny (John E.) at September 17, 2011 06:38 PM (nRTou)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at September 17, 2011 06:40 PM (5Z/+/)
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at September 17, 2011 07:56 PM (dIHHd)
Sigh.
Posted by: Wry Mouth at September 17, 2011 08:11 PM (+Zf65)
Posted by: Just a guy at September 17, 2011 09:53 PM (gnViO)
Precedents and traditions exist for a reason, and part of that reason is informing the judgment of succeeding generations. Those who manipulate and alter those long-standing practices for their own benefit often find the rules used against themselves at some later point.
Posted by: Adjoran at September 17, 2011 10:49 PM (VfmLu)
Posted by: CAC at September 17, 2011 10:58 PM (JEVge)
Posted by: CAC at September 17, 2011 11:02 PM (JEVge)
I live in Philly, where my vote is wasted (the city reliably breaks 80/20 Dem in Presidential elections, Obama or not), but why should my city outweigh the whole rest of the state? Congressional District divison of EVs seems to be much more fair and reflective of the will of the state as a whole. Too bad the Pubs, even when handed total control, feel queasy about exercising that power.
If anything is crazy, its the Nation Vote movement. So far, it seems to be comprised of all reliably blue states. They will change that law very quickly when they have to give their EVs to a Pub.
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at September 18, 2011 12:18 AM (dIHHd)
Posted by: buzzion at September 18, 2011 01:24 AM (GULKT)
No, I've had problems with Colorado, Nebraska and Maine doing it. They were anti-democratic measures which further separate the election outcome from the popular electoral will.
Posted by: Just a guy at September 18, 2011 05:49 AM (gnViO)
I live in Philly, where my vote is wasted (the city reliably breaks 80/20 Dem in Presidential elections, Obama or not), but why should my city outweigh the whole rest of the state?
Because there are more people in the Philly and Pittsburgh area. It is people that vote, not land. If more people in Pennsylvania vote for Candidate X, then Candidate X should win that state's electoral votes. It shouldn't matter where in the state those votes come from.
Better yet, the constitution should be amended to do away with electors altogether. If more people in the USA vote for Candidate X, then Candidate X should win. It shouldn't matter where in the country those votes come from.
Posted by: Just a guy at September 18, 2011 05:54 AM (gnViO)
This would happen all over the nation for Red States. In addition, as I said earlier, there was a reason the founders worked out this great compromise. I am reluctant to tinker with it.
Posted by: Vic at September 17, 2011 06:30 PM (M9Ie6)
thanks Vic, those are pretty much my thoughts as well... a straight up popular vote assures the large metro areas always drown out the rural areas, it's a recipe for a permanent Progressive majority.
Posted by: shoey at September 18, 2011 08:09 AM (m6OUa)
The electroal college was established so that large states (population) wouldn't overwhelm smaller states - one of the great compromises of the Constitutional process. I DON'T want the political machines of Chicago, New York, Detroit, etc. to determine the next President. I don't want the Presidental candidates to igore Iowa or Nebraska or Missouri or any other small population state, which they would be able to do under popular vote. Look at Europe to see the problems with pure popular vote: Paris determines what France looks like, London rules England, etc. People in cities tend to be less self sufficient - water, sewage, garbage, police etc. are all provided by the government and this leads to a certain mind-set. When this mind set is forced on the entire country (not just talking the US here) it's a one size fits all scenario AND THIS DOESN'T WORK - one of the problems with Europe is the monoculture approach and one of the things that would ruin the US just as predictabily.
Posted by: rabidfox at September 18, 2011 12:46 PM (06BS1)
Exactly. When in doubt, go with the method the founding fathers designed.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 18, 2011 07:12 PM (r4wIV)
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