August 29, 2011
— Ace Supposedly, this was an accident; supposedly, they never intended to out agents and sources.
But they did.
The release of the file could potentially endanger the informants mentioned in the documents, many of whom live in countries whose governments are hostile to the US. The confidential diplomatic cables were redacted before publication to protect sources, but the file on the Internet contains the original, unedited documents.
Supposedly it happened like this: Supporters of Wikileaks posted what they thought was just an archive of already-published leaks, but the original, unredacted material was posted with it in a hidden file.
Then another Wikileaks person posted the password to read that file, not realizing the hidden file was publicly available.
Whatever their stories are, they should be arrested. Finally.
They have leaked information which result in deaths. Whether they did this deliberately, and contrived some cover story of a "slip-up," or they are just a bunch of arrogant prats who are playing a game of wannabe secret agents and screwed up anything as could have been easily predicted, it doesn't matter.
They took all the steps that led to this deliberately, and with malice.
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Posted by: Alaska Paul at August 29, 2011 06:10 PM (rMkgW)
Posted by: LGoPs at August 29, 2011 06:12 PM (lHn6+)
Posted by: alexthedude at August 29, 2011 06:12 PM (iLD9h)
Posted by: LGoPs at August 29, 2011 06:13 PM (lHn6+)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 29, 2011 06:13 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: UGAdawg at August 29, 2011 06:13 PM (H6JHE)
Posted by: CMU VET at August 29, 2011 06:14 PM (m+0Zk)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at August 29, 2011 06:14 PM (8Zpuz)
Posted by: buzzion at August 29, 2011 06:16 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: 1 * at August 29, 2011 06:19 PM (ddyLR)
Posted by: sven10077 at August 29, 2011 06:19 PM (AEIYh)
Posted by: David Gillies at August 29, 2011 06:19 PM (FdBA0)
Posted by: Serious Cat at August 29, 2011 06:20 PM (bAySe)
Posted by: Max Power at August 29, 2011 06:22 PM (q177U)
Not an accident. No god damn way.
Time to drop Seal Team Six in on this dickhead. Capture him and put him into the deepest darkest black ops prison and let the guys have some fun with him.
The Private who leaked this to him needs to be sent along, too.
Posted by: blindside at August 29, 2011 06:23 PM (9PPuq)
Posted by: USA at August 29, 2011 06:25 PM (6Cjut)
Posted by: Serious Cat at August 29, 2011 06:28 PM (bAySe)
Posted by: long toss at August 29, 2011 06:28 PM (uVnnt)
Posted by: USA at August 29, 2011 06:30 PM (6Cjut)
maybe if Ass Acne accidentally screws Barack over in an embarassing way Bury'll find his nutsack
Posted by: sven10077 at August 29, 2011 06:30 PM (AEIYh)
Posted by: model_1066 at August 29, 2011 06:31 PM (2j/Mv)
There is a reason why this stuff is (and should remain) classified.
The release can cause _exceptionally grave damage, including loss of life_.
I need a drink.
Posted by: knob at August 29, 2011 06:33 PM (qKPU8)
Posted by: This Thing of Ours at August 29, 2011 06:33 PM (PidTa)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 29, 2011 06:35 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Polonium-Tipped Umbrellas, Inc. at August 29, 2011 06:36 PM (r4t7/)
Posted by: 1 * at August 29, 2011 06:38 PM (ddyLR)
Posted by: USA at August 29, 2011 06:39 PM (6Cjut)
On a more serious note, isn't breaking into our computers the same thing as spying on us here? Legally, I mean. I think it's kind of crazy that we don't go after unregistered foreign agents when there are perfectly legal mechanisms for doing so. Forget America, most humans who love their country care about national sovereignty and foreign agency.
Posted by: KirkCameronLeftMeBehind at August 29, 2011 06:39 PM (iZ6fL)
Posted by: 1 * at August 29, 2011 06:40 PM (ddyLR)
Well, maybe PissyLeaks hasn't but someone has:
Chinese general's spy talk leaked onto YouTube
"Footage of a Chinese general discussing sensitive spying cases has been leaked onto Google Inc.'s video sharing site YouTube, in what appears to be an embarrassing failure of secrecy for the usually tightlipped military."
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 29, 2011 06:41 PM (s1vtf)
Posted by: HighplainsJackal at August 29, 2011 06:42 PM (jQHle)
Armitage - Powell's longtime attache - leaked Plame's ID to BOLSTER Wilson who was a foe of Bush - and thereby weaken the USA's ability to project power and defend our interest.
Then the MSM attacked Cheney/Ceheney's office as the leaker as if the leak was meant to scare WIldson-Plame into silence and as a shot across the bow of any/all future agents whi might see themselves as whistle-blowers.
The has to seen as grave and endangering Plame and the US in order for the hysterical witch-hunt to seem justified.
Because WIkileaks is a leaking system designed to hurt the USA the left sees WIKILEAKS more like Wilson - a whistle-blower - than like Armitage (a good leaker because his leak was anti-Cheney) or Libby - the fall guy who didn't actually leak Plame's ID.
Whistle-blowers on the left against the left are seen as traitors and sellouts - folks off the plantation.
Whistle-blowers against the right are seen as brave truth tellers.
Where one stands vis a vis leftism is more important to the left than patriotism or defending Western Civilization from islamo-terror.
Posted by: reliapundit at August 29, 2011 06:43 PM (NO/r4)
Odd, that.
Or for that matter, North Korea, Cuba, Iran or Saudi Arabia's.
It's a real PUZZLER, that.<<
Oh? Not really.
Posted by: Vlad Putin at August 29, 2011 06:44 PM (PidTa)
Posted by: Picric at August 29, 2011 06:46 PM (oeByA)
Oh, and that sonofabitch needs to be hogtied and dropped from 20k' over the Sahara.
Posted by: As If! at August 29, 2011 06:49 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: GuyfromNH at August 29, 2011 06:49 PM (hADA5)
Posted by: beanervt at August 29, 2011 06:49 PM (YA3b2)
Didja ever notice that they never seem to release China's secrets? Posted by: Merovign
I have noticed they don't post Israel's. Probably because they know what would happen.
Posted by: DM! at August 29, 2011 06:51 PM (O0Qwy)
WTH?
Posted by: alexthedude at August 29, 2011 10:09 PM (iLD9h)
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This seems to be a trend for the last 6 months or so...just a little bit at a time. Incrementalism..just a nudge.
Posted by: That guy who is either keenly observant or paranoid. at August 29, 2011 06:56 PM (UIEJa)
Posted by: two agents of MI6 and Mossad playing poker in a dimly lit room in Thailand at August 29, 2011 06:57 PM (sOXQX)
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at August 29, 2011 06:57 PM (ijjAe)
Let's "leak" the name, address and telephone number - along with any other personal info like credit card info, SS #'s, etc.. of everyone involved in wikileaks.
I'm sure they won't mind, since according to them, all data is public.
Then.. let's just let all the fucking pimply faced hackers/geeks have at 'em.
And maybe someone who cares a bit more might want to pay a "visit" to these pricks.
seems fair to me.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 29, 2011 06:58 PM (UTq/I)
Posted by: Ellen at August 29, 2011 06:58 PM (B1FXc)
Posted by: PugBoo aka at August 29, 2011 07:00 PM (5nHLW)
Posted by: mike at August 29, 2011 07:01 PM (8JD1f)
Posted by: mike at August 29, 2011 07:02 PM (8JD1f)
Posted by: Peaches at August 29, 2011 07:02 PM (hKbUC)
No prob, its just a silly handle, because the original Guy Fawkes was kind of a screw up. But these wiki people and the anarchists are really kind a "V" people, but they wouldn't know real fascism if it hit em in the head.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at August 29, 2011 07:03 PM (4nfy2)
Posted by: newrouter at August 29, 2011 07:07 PM (/ycAc)
We're in a war. I'm not sure arrests are the proper way to handle this.
To some extent, I support the ideal of wikileaks. At some point, the voters need to know what their governments are really up to. But there's an obvious need for some degree of generality. For one thing, diplomacy is completely impossible in an environment where bad guys and good guys can't chat with real confidentiality, or discuss one another with allies and foes to some extent.
You need that.
And of course, the names of secret agents is of no use democratically.
But that we're using x tactic and y tactic is a just bit of news to eventually expose. I don't like the idea of the government keeping its means private.
Since some of these people are doing much more than merely informing the citizens about the war effort, and are actively fighting to kill our spies (what else could you call outing them) then the best solution is a covert action against our enemies.
Posted by: Dustin at August 29, 2011 07:09 PM (fF625)
Posted by: Peaches
...........
I think about this all the time, Peaches..
If there were ever, in fact, Mitch Rapp types in service of our country, they have long been muzzled by this administration. It is sad beyond belief.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 29, 2011 07:10 PM (UTq/I)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at August 29, 2011 07:10 PM (JKNDp)
Posted by: Serious Cat at August 29, 2011 10:20 PM (bAySe)
It's a crime to the other country. It's just a matter of if they can do anything about it. It isn't citizenship that matters, it's accessibility. So if these guys ever come to the U.S., they're in trouble.
Posted by: zmdavid at August 29, 2011 07:11 PM (uR/Hh)
This shit has got to stop.
Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at August 29, 2011 07:12 PM (UY1Rp)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 29, 2011 11:10 PM (UTq/I)
So true. 
Posted by: Peaches at August 29, 2011 07:13 PM (hKbUC)
Posted by: city gal at August 29, 2011 07:14 PM (k1rwm)
Posted by: 1 * at August 29, 2011 07:14 PM (ddyLR)
Posted by: PugBoo aka at August 29, 2011 07:15 PM (5nHLW)
Treason, by any other name is still Treason. The gay soldier who passed this information to Julian can be executed for this, and if any American agents die as a result of this, his death should be automatic. As for the rest of them, if they are American their acts amount to treason. If they're not American they're guilty of crimes of espionage and can be treated as enemy combatants. I'm sure the SCOAMF will understand and empathize with their good intentions. That shouldn't keep other Americans from acting in America's best interests in this matter.
King Putt never closed down Guantanimo, but I'm quite sure that Barak and Holder would both agree that these people need to be tried in civilian courts....
Posted by: MrObvious at August 29, 2011 07:17 PM (qwhLZ)
Posted by: izoneguy at August 29, 2011 07:19 PM (i6Neb)
Posted by: Joel Hyatt, Esq. at August 29, 2011 07:22 PM (UY1Rp)
Posted by: Marty at August 29, 2011 07:24 PM (on5PS)
Fear not Peaches, I am sure we have resources like that ready to go. But unlike the fictional characters above, these people will always remain unknown. And you might want to add Carlos Castillo to your list.
Posted by: PugBoo aka at August 29, 2011 11:15 PM (5nHLW)
they exist.
they are cranky and drink too much because they are surrounded by fumblers and edumicated wanna-bes and are being asked to do dumb things and forbidden to do smart things.
Posted by: Gushka goes blue at August 29, 2011 07:26 PM (QNeKQ)
Posted by: texette at August 29, 2011 07:29 PM (8sD9j)
Heh, no wonder I relate so well to them. How you doin', girl? Me, I'm just pissed off and glad I didn't kill anybody today and wishing I had a big ol' plate of bacon to munch on.
Posted by: Peaches at August 29, 2011 07:31 PM (hKbUC)
Heh, no wonder I relate so well to them. How you doin', girl? Me, I'm just pissed off and glad I didn't kill anybody today and wishing I had a big ol' plate of bacon to munch on.
Posted by: Peaches at August 29, 2011 11:31 PM (hKbUC)
was out in the sun too long and made my lupus riddled body sick. Person im referring to has been texting and being a pest while i want to die. the other was scolding and telling me i was not allowed to kill myself stupidly once he found me again ...(I dated him 20 years ago and knew only he was in great shape then)
so this is an apt topic. Yes peaches these guys are out there.
no peaches they arent allowed to do much these days.
and peaches its damn hot today in the desert and thats sucky in my line of work.
Posted by: Gushka goes blue at August 29, 2011 07:35 PM (QNeKQ)
"They took all the steps that led to this deliberately, and with malice."
While Assrange, Julian may go into deeeeeep hiding, I expect that Assrange Left and Assrange Right will very soon be seen hanging from one of Assrange, Julian's victim's ears ... naturally properly taxidermied and in a fashionable mounting ...
Posted by: Arbalest at August 29, 2011 07:38 PM (9Cr0a)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 29, 2011 07:38 PM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff is in BEAST MODE at August 29, 2011 07:40 PM (l9zgN)
Hey Assange! This one's for yew: Double your pleasure, double your fun, chew double tap, double tap, double tap gun. (sung to the tune of the wrigley's gum commercial)
Fucker.
Posted by: LGoPs at August 29, 2011 07:40 PM (xdTCc)
This is an act of war. A direct assualt to the safety of American citizens. A direct threat to National Security. The only bigger crime would be to do nothing about it. I think SCOAMF will have this on his head.
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 29, 2011 11:38 PM (ZDUD4)
i always liked mr clark too.
without remorse is a book i always loved
Posted by: Gushka goes blue at August 29, 2011 07:40 PM (QNeKQ)
Posted by: NYTimes, CNN, MSNBC, Huffington Post, ABC CSB NBC News, NPR at August 29, 2011 07:42 PM (ffV1/)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 29, 2011 07:45 PM (ZDUD4)
This is despicable. Why can't the CIA just smite these assholes? And Q-daffy and Ahmadinejad and all those assholes? I really, really want to believe that Mitch Rapp and Scot Horvath have real-life counterparts, but it's getting harder to hold onto that fantasy.
Posted by: Peaches at August 29, 2011 11:02 PM (hKbUC)
You can thank Frank Church, Jimmy Carter Bob Torricelli, Bill Clinton and the whole fucking Democrat Party for that.
Posted by: LGoPs at August 29, 2011 07:45 PM (xdTCc)
Nothing will happen. George W. Bush established the precedent that we do nothing to leakers, even when they do it openly and we know who they are (Lichtblau, NYT).
Now if someone like Rick Perry vows to tear out MO's vegetable garden to make room for a scaffold, well, that's someone I could vote for.
Posted by: somebody else, not me at August 29, 2011 07:46 PM (7EV/g)
Posted by: jules at August 29, 2011 07:46 PM (W97xc)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 29, 2011 07:47 PM (ZDUD4)
You can thank Frank Church, Jimmy Carter Bob Torricelli, Bill Clinton and the whole fucking Democrat Party for that.
Posted by: LGoPs at August 29, 2011 11:45 PM (xdTCc)
um, yep. pretty
much just that.
oh and our govt funded school system that churns out morons who hate their country, and arent fit to serve. its like we are culling our best citizens in these damn wars
Posted by: Gushka goes blue at August 29, 2011 07:48 PM (QNeKQ)
Posted by: Mr Fever Head at August 29, 2011 07:48 PM (ZgvjV)
What are you some big spending lib? There are plenty of strong mature trees on the White House grounds.
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 29, 2011 11:47 PM (ZDUD4)
I'm sure they could build the scaffold with private donations . . . where do I send my money?
Posted by: Peaches at August 29, 2011 07:50 PM (hKbUC)
What are you some big spending lib? There are plenty of strong mature trees on the White House grounds.
Just trying to stimulate the economy. I'm sure JM Keynes had a chapter on scaffolds in one of his books...
Posted by: somebody else, not me at August 29, 2011 07:50 PM (7EV/g)
Posted by: Arbalest at August 29, 2011 07:51 PM (9Cr0a)
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at August 29, 2011 07:54 PM (54F2e)
Whatever is done in retaliation should be done quietly, swiftly, brutally and without fanfare. Not much need for discussion or agonizing over options. The act itself would send a message loud and clear to all our enemies - "Don't fuck with us".
Of course that would require a President with balls and we know the only balls Obama's got are on the golf course.
Feckless Bastard.
Posted by: LGoPs at August 29, 2011 07:58 PM (xdTCc)
So I understand Ace's passion on this - BUT - it's just false to imply that anything WikiLeaks has done is in any way illegal. Leaking classified material is illegal, but third parties (journalists) publishing leaked classified material is NOT illegal, and is protected under the First Amendment's free press guarantees.
Furthermore, it's conjecture at this point to say this action has or will resulted in deaths. The NYT article says that especially vulnerable sources have already been moved out of harm's way. It's still very possible that everyone will be okay.
Still, WikiLeaks has lost a lot of goodwill and credibility even among those of us who tend to support it and its mission.
Posted by: Devil's Advocate at August 29, 2011 07:59 PM (t+aes)
Furthermore, it's conjecture at this point to say this action has or will resulted in deaths. The NYT article says that especially vulnerable sources have already been moved out of harm's way. It's still very possible that everyone will be okay.
Still, WikiLeaks has lost a lot of goodwill and credibility even among those of us who tend to support it and its mission.
Posted by: Devil's Advocate at August 29, 2011 11:59 PM (t+aes)
seriously? SERIOUSLY?
ok you do know that these bad guys very rarely hit directly at the assets but instead hit the assets family? you think those families got moved? um no. not so much. so yeah unless that asset has immediately got anyone they ever cared about to disappear without a trace people are in direct jeopardy.
you obviously dont know how this game is played.
Posted by: Gushka goes blue at August 29, 2011 08:04 PM (QNeKQ)
Really? How do you feel about immoral and just plain motherfucking wrong? spits
Posted by: Peaches at August 29, 2011 08:06 PM (hKbUC)
I'd settle for a few of them becoming victims of "accidents", if you know what I mean.
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at August 29, 2011 08:08 PM (PaYgs)
I'd settle for a few of them becoming victims of "accidents", if you know what I mean.
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at August 30, 2011 12:08 AM(PaYgs)
Or disappeared.
and THAT is how the game is played.
Posted by: Gushka goes blue at August 29, 2011 08:10 PM (QNeKQ)
Posted by: sven10077 at August 29, 2011 10:19 PM (AEIYh)
*channeling Breaking Bad*
Perhaps some chemical disincorporation is in order?
Posted by: KG at August 29, 2011 08:11 PM (LD21B)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 29, 2011 08:15 PM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: KZnextzone at August 29, 2011 08:17 PM (ZUWaD)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 29, 2011 08:18 PM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: Frankenstein Government at August 29, 2011 08:22 PM (GOG1H)
Leaking classified material is illegal, but third parties (journalists) publishing leaked classified material is NOT illegal, and is protected under the First Amendment's free press guarantees.
I'm pretty sure the current jurisprudence is that the government cannot prevent the publication of classified material, it can however prosecute once it is published. That might not make sense at first, but it seems the SC has tried to thread the needle by prohibiting the interruption of publication (thereby allowing the press freedom) while also allowing that the nation has secrets to keep. And there's also the issue of the many journalists who've spent time in jail for not revealing their sources (i.e people who were party to a crime but obstructed justice by not cooperating).
Posted by: Will Folks at August 29, 2011 08:30 PM (7EV/g)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 29, 2011 08:31 PM (AZGON)
So you're saying that people engaging in legal activity should nonetheless be subject to assassination, torture, etc if they are "deemed" to be sufficiently 'immoral' or a 'threat to national security,' despite their actions being LEGAL and CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED?
I'm sorry but if you'd like to live in an authoritarian state like that you really should pick a different country to live in. I hear Russia, Iran, and North Korea are all quite lovely this time of year. But if you are going to live in the USA you should really brush up on your First, Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth Amendments. Assange deserves trial if he's done something illegal (which he hasn't).
Posted by: Devil's Advocate at August 29, 2011 08:32 PM (t+aes)
You're wrong. Government employees and officials who leak information (allegedly Pfc. Bradley Manning in this case) CAN be prosecuted, but journalists (NYTimes, Wikileaks, AoSHQ, etc) who publish leaked information that has been provided to them CANNOT be prosecuted because what they're doing is protected by the Constitution. This was established in NYTimes v. US back in the 70s over the Pentagon Papers. The only difference between the Pentagon Papers and what WikiLeaks has disseminated is that the Pentagon Papers were actually a much higher level of classification than these diplomatic cables. So it's just false to say Assange has done something illegal.
Posted by: Devil's Advocate at August 29, 2011 08:39 PM (t+aes)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 29, 2011 08:42 PM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: Devil's Advocate at August 29, 2011 08:44 PM (t+aes)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 29, 2011 08:47 PM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: garrett at August 29, 2011 08:48 PM (Zkth+)
Even more the point. If The Guardian or Der Spiegel had released the names of the sources, would there be calls for them to be arrested? Um, probably not, considering they fall outside the USA's jurisdiction. Why Assange or Wikileaks is different you will have to explain. But the US doesn't get to do whatever it wants anywhere in the world with impunity. Or at least it's not supposed to.
Posted by: Devil's Advocate at August 29, 2011 08:48 PM (t+aes)
Posted by: Devil's Advocate at August 30, 2011 12:32 AM (t+aes)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 30, 2011 12:42 AM (ZDUD4)
THIS!
besides, the game has NEVER been played that way. EVEN BY US. well not until recently. I am sorry to bust you bubble. You are dreaming of a world that never existed and cannot be safely existed in.
Posted by: Gushka goes blue at August 29, 2011 08:49 PM (QNeKQ)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 29, 2011 08:51 PM (ZDUD4)
I am 'dreaming' of the world REQUIRED by our CONSTITUTION. If these kind of things happen, they are ILLEGAL and UNCONSTITUTIONAL? Are you ok with that kind of rampant lawlessness on the part of our government?
Posted by: Devil's Advocate at August 29, 2011 08:53 PM (t+aes)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 29, 2011 08:56 PM (ZDUD4)
I am 'dreaming' of the world REQUIRED by our CONSTITUTION. If these kind of things happen, they are ILLEGAL and UNCONSTITUTIONAL? Are you ok with that kind of rampant lawlessness on the part of our government?
Posted by: Devil's Advocate at August 30, 2011 12:53 AM (t+aes)
I am telling you many things have always happened in spycraft that we have engaged in. And yes they are kept secret for a reason. Am i comfortable with it? Perhaps i have always believed governments are full of shit and tended towards being more evil than they let on. so yeah. i guess so.
I can live with it.
you cant change history by wishing it away. And sometimes war by other means than large scale engagement isnt pretty. No sense thinking it didnt happen when it did. do i prefer these small wars of lies and deceptions and ugly little incidents to great big ones? YOU BET.
Posted by: Gushka goes blue at August 29, 2011 08:57 PM (QNeKQ)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 29, 2011 08:57 PM (ZDUD4)
"No person shall...be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law."
"Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press"
There. You don't even have to look it up.
You are living in a creepy, fantasy world if you thing the US Constitution allows for assassination of individuals (especially US citizens) without a trial, especially when their only action meriting such is engaging in activity plainly protected by the Constitution.
Posted by: Devil's Advocate at August 29, 2011 09:03 PM (t+aes)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 29, 2011 09:08 PM (ZDUD4)
The American who gave the secrets to the Eurotrash Wikifucks should be tried for treason and executed. Dude wasn't acting as a member of the press.
Congress should authorize military action against the Eurotrash Wikifucks, whether by secret vote or not, I really don't give a fucking shit. And then we should kill them. Sorry, Europeans aren't covered under the US Constitution, especially when they are overseas and they are intentionally harming US interests.
There's your constitutional due process, even when it isn't required.
Kill them.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 29, 2011 09:08 PM (wMsKw)
ace: Whatever their stories are, they should be arrested. Finally.
Arrested? For what? Assange isn't American. He isn't a traitor.
This isn't a domestic law enforcement issue, or even an "international law" issue.
This is a law of the jungle issue.
These guys need to get whacked. Dead.
What the fuck is with this "law" bullshit? Should Hamas and Hezbollah be "arrested?" Shoud bin Laden have been "arrested?" What about Abu Musab al-Zarqawi? Should he have been arrested? No, I don't think so. I'm quite happy with this sabotage "warrant."
Or an Israeli "Munich" style response would be cool too.
But I don't give a fuck about warrants or due process. Not here.
Every civilization finds it necessary to negotiate compromises with its own values. So be it.
Posted by: ed at August 29, 2011 09:11 PM (Y2WVW)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at August 29, 2011 09:11 PM (dbYHP)
Posted by: Max Power at August 29, 2011 09:14 PM (+wxCD)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 29, 2011 09:15 PM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: davo at August 29, 2011 09:15 PM (q8Yz9)
Posted by: Gushka goes blue at August 29, 2011 09:16 PM (QNeKQ)
Posted by: Max Power at August 29, 2011 09:19 PM (+wxCD)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 29, 2011 09:20 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 29, 2011 09:20 PM (ZDUD4)
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Perhaps that's because their security agencies are too fucking smart THAN TO PUT SUCH INFORMATION ONLINE.
Posted by: 8593 Hobbits at August 29, 2011 09:24 PM (jeLTI)
Day *1* of Wikileaks action against us specifically should have been aggressive infiltration up to and including arrest and interrogation (legal) with regard to their sources, who are definitely breaking serious US laws.
That was apparently not done, and the damage has multiplied since then.
So Dicklessness has, once again, led us down the path of chaos and destruction.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 30, 2011 01:20 AM (bxiXv)
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Hey! Who the hell are you calling dickless?
Posted by: Walter Peck, EPA Special Agent at August 29, 2011 09:24 PM (Y2WVW)
Posted by: Dr. Peter Venkman at August 29, 2011 09:26 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Dr. Peter Venkman at August 29, 2011 09:27 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 29, 2011 09:28 PM (bxiXv)
Dr. Peter Venkman/Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 30, 2011 01:26 AM (bxiXv)
Well played sir...Well played indeed.
Bravo.
Posted by: ed at August 29, 2011 09:30 PM (Y2WVW)
Posted by: mpfs, TPT, O is SCFOAMF at August 29, 2011 09:56 PM (fJtl3)
Posted by: specialkayel at August 29, 2011 10:09 PM (ua//3)
Really? Data held by a bunch of douchebag hipster thieves is not "secure"? Who would have guessed that ?
Posted by: Holdfast at August 29, 2011 10:12 PM (Gzb30)
We got hundreds of thousands of files on computers where any government flunky can download at will and dispense at will. This is where the real crime occurs. This type of thing probably occurs all the time, just most of it is not interesting.
Why are we not prosecuting the people charged with protecting this information? Why not off a few of them?
Posted by: Artruen at August 30, 2011 04:02 AM (QpiBw)
Posted by: Acceptable Loss AudioBook at August 30, 2011 05:38 AM (A1vu2)
As far as constitutional protection, if we extend it to Assange, we should have extended it to Bin Laden. Both have effectively (if not actually) declared war by performing actions either to harm or Provide Aid and Comfort to the Enemy (I classify identifying our covert agents aid, as the enemy doesn't have to root them out themselves).
Posted by: Xenophon at August 30, 2011 05:37 PM (CgMAQ)
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Posted by: alexthedude at August 29, 2011 06:09 PM (iLD9h)