August 26, 2011

Win the Culture. [ArthurK]
— Open Blogger

Michael Lewis (The Blind Side, Money Ball, Liar's Poker) has a typically long and typically brilliant article in Vanity Fair. It's about the European financial crisis, Germany's role in it, the sub-prime catastrophe and the German bank's role in that.

Normally, I'd just link it in the sidebar but there's a paragraph I want to highlight. This is in reference to what Germans did during the boom period before the bottom fell out of the sub-prime market.

"There was no credit boom in Germany," says Asmussen. "Real-estate prices were completely flat. There was no borrowing for consumption. Because this behavior is rather alien to Germans. Germans save whenever possible. This is deeply in German genes. Perhaps a leftover of the collective memory of the Great Depression and the hyperinflation of the 1920s." The German government was equally prudent because, he went on, "there is a consensus among the different parties about this: if you’re not adhering to fiscal responsibility, you have no chance in elections, because the people are that way."

And my point?

Recall day 10 of After America Blogging.

I do not believe that the solution to our problem is simply to elect the right people. The important thing is to establish a political climate of opinion which will make it politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing. Unless it is politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing, the right people will not do the right thing either, or if they try, they will shortly be out of office. - Milton Friedman

See! See! It didn't matter what the laws or regulations said about that type of speculation. The German fiscal culture didn't allow it so it didn't happen.* Remember that as we try and recover America. We need to change the culture so it doesn't matter if we elect the right people or not.

*As you'll see in the article, they got screwed in a far different way. Doesn't make my point look flawless...

Back to Lewis. Like I said, it's a great article - you should read it. Here's a couple of tidbits to pique your interest.

Extremely smart traders inside Wall Street investment banks devise deeply unfair, diabolically complicated bets, and then send their sales forces out to scour the world for some idiot who will take the other side of those bets. During the boom years a wildly disproportionate number of those idiots were in Germany.

and

This preternatural love of rules, almost for their own sake, punctuates German finance as it does German life. As it happens, a story had just broken that a division of a German insurance company called Munich Re, back in June 2007, or just before the crash, had sponsored a party for its best producers that offered not just chicken dinners and nearest-to-the-pin golf competitions but a blowout with prostitutes in a public bath. In finance, high or low, this sort of thing is of course not unusual. What was striking was how organized the German event was. The company tied white and yellow and red armbands to the prostitutes to indicate which ones were available to which men. After each sexual encounter the prostitute received a stamp on her arm, to indicate how often she had been used. The Germans didn’t want just hookers: they wanted hookers with rules.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 11:23 PM | Comments (211)
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1 Honestly, Germany is a fun place.  It's not rigid for rigid's sake.  Rules actually have value/use.  It's not like England where they have rules because they don't know what else to do.  England is like Germany's retarded cousin.  I'd much rather be around a bunch of drunk Germans than drunk Irish.  One day I might even be fluent in German, and then I'm playing the Holocaust card and demanding residency.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 26, 2011 11:27 PM (l6y6R)

2 Damnit, my company never throws hooker parties.

Posted by: Ace's liver at August 26, 2011 11:42 PM (1+XRG)

3 If Germany had no housing/financial collapse then they should be doing good right now. So are they? If not why not?

Could it be that with the U.S. and the rest of Europe flat on its back, and they are a nation of savers vs consumers that this is killing them.

Also, it doesn't help that Germany is a larger version of Detroit with the unions and socialism. But what they are missing is that "social justice" version of socialism where the aggrieved populous thinks that the government owes them a living from birth to death.

Posted by: Vic at August 26, 2011 11:42 PM (M9Ie6)

4 > 3 If Germany had no housing/financial collapse then they should be doing good right now. So are they? Posted by: Vic Doing ok. Unemployment under 7% (pretty good for Europe). They got problems - the article goes into it. They're part of the gang with 80-90% debt/GDP ratio who are expected to bail out the ones with 120% debt/GDP ratio. The public isn't amused.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at August 26, 2011 11:50 PM (+JhHG)

5 Culture trumps strategy every time.

A bad culture will stymie and throttle the best laid plans because the people chiefly responsible for executing those plans will go off and do something else.  When their own unspoken collective assumptions are in conflict with the plan, the plan goes out the window.  If you want proof of this, take a gander at any 3rd world dung heap.

A good culture requires no special efforts or bright ideas to make things work because individuals just do the right thing as a matter of habit.  The United States has, traditionally, been the prime example of this.  So much so that the phenomenon itself has been described as American Exceptionalism.

This is why the left works so hard to destroy our culture from within.  They understand instinctively that our culture is the soul of our society and the source of our strength and resilience.  American exceptionalism isn't an accident, but the direct result of our culture.  When it is destroyed, so shall our nation be. 

Posted by: Lee Reynolds at August 26, 2011 11:53 PM (zkRoG)

6 "We need to change the culture so it doesn't matter if we elect the right people or not."

Sorry.  We're having too much fun telling everyone how retarded Christine O'Donnel is.

Posted by: The Boys at August 27, 2011 12:03 AM (9b6FB)

7 "In February 2010, U.S. investor Warren Buffett became Munich Re's largest single shareholder with 10.2 percent of the company."

booya.

Posted by: P. Krugman at August 27, 2011 12:11 AM (DEcmU)

8 After each sexual encounter the prostitute received a stamp on her arm, to indicate how often she had been used.

Uh-huh. That's a totally innocent and adorable oh-those-silly-accounting-minded-Teutons! sort of thing right there. No other local-cultural symbolic significance to that at all. No nostalgic enhancements of the Germanic sexual experience going on there. I mean, LOL!

...

But seriously. Can we re-firebomb all their cities every day from now until Germany's just a hole in the earth's crust big enough to shove France into?

I can afford like three bombs. Who's in?

Any of you guys have a plane I can borrow? 'Cus I'll just fucking start.

Posted by: oblig. is all murdery at August 27, 2011 12:24 AM (xvZW9)

9
We need to change the culture so it doesn't matter if we elect the right people or not.

Nothing that a dose of good old Northern European Calvinism can't fix, eh?   You know, planting the seeds instead of eating them.  Mooching is a sin. etc. etc.


Posted by: ignatzk at August 27, 2011 12:39 AM (6GY6g)

10 OT, but I'd like to thank Pixy for freeing the GGE, thanks Pixy!

Posted by: GGE, Back In The Horde! at August 27, 2011 01:15 AM (sILPb)

11 Zum Affen macht es nichts.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at August 27, 2011 01:33 AM (q3Fwr)

12 So I see the southern wall of Irene's eye has collapsed.  So much for the storm of the century.  Just like Obama, lots of hot air but no impressive results.  Scare tactics abound nonetheless.

Posted by: The Gulf Coast at August 27, 2011 01:34 AM (Yd5KG)

13 Was Irene supposed to be the storm of the century? Still a pretty big blow, not as big as some, a strong Cat II right now. Expected to come ashore here in a couple of hours.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Teahad at August 27, 2011 01:50 AM (sILPb)

14 Was Irene supposed to be the storm of the century?

Irene is the first storm this year. Under the rules of 24/7 news hype it must be the worst storm in 500 years until after it hits.

Looking at the WC and on the Weather Underground it looks like it has shifted slightly East now will miss NC with the eye crossing just to the east of the outer banks. Still will get a lot of rain in Eastern NC and possibly some tornadoes. So NC dodges a bullet but that makes it worse for NYC which is still in its direct path.

But they get a break as well since it has already been downgraded to a one and will likely be just a TS by the time its the city.

Posted by: Vic at August 27, 2011 01:54 AM (M9Ie6)

15

The german need for stability doesnt necessarily mean fiscal conservatism. Germany still has huge redistributive programs aimed at the middle classes, an oppressive system of taxes and "contributions (the german welfarestate is funded by the latter) and a pensions system that makes social security look like the embodiment of prudence. Its like the Democrats twisted notion of fiscal responsibility: high expenditures but equally high taxes to fund them.

And thats just the german economy. Dont start with their political system! Its a progressive nightmare, Ezra Kleins wetdreams come true.

Posted by: Elize Nayden at August 27, 2011 02:26 AM (ab4Q3)

16 But they get a break as well since it has already been downgraded to a one and will likely be just a TS by the time its the city.

Posted by: Vic at August 27, 2011 05:54 AM (M9Ie6)

Governor Perdue will be very disappointed, she declared a state of emergency and a disaster (which negates the right of the people to keep and bear arms off of their own property in the affected areas)  and everything and all it looks like we are going to get is a glancing blow.
Still a lot of people on the coast without power though, as can be expected with any serious weather event...and a Cat I hurricane is a serious weather event, even if it is a glancing blow.

Posted by: GGE: Back in the Horde! at August 27, 2011 02:30 AM (sILPb)

17

And thats just the german economy. Dont start with their political system! Its a progressive nightmare, Ezra Kleins wetdreams come true.

Posted by: Elize Nayden at August 27, 2011 06:26 AM (ab4Q3)

Is it the DOOM! thread already?

Posted by: GGE: Back in the Horde! at August 27, 2011 02:31 AM (sILPb)

18 Well I'm off roonz and roonettez, to brave the storm and help a fellow Mustanger put suspension under his 72 Pony. Thanks for all of your support during my sojourn in the desert. Later!

Posted by: GGE: Back in the Horde! at August 27, 2011 02:33 AM (sILPb)

19 well we're pretty doomed then because half the people i know are socialists who want all the benefits they can get from govt, and anyone who takes it away is eeeevil

Posted by: Village Idiot at August 27, 2011 02:49 AM (utXSy)

20 "This is deeply in German genes." Luckily for the politicians, importing enough Turks will change this! Just like importing Mexicans has already changed it in California. People are different.

Posted by: Rollory at August 27, 2011 03:07 AM (aGtNd)

21 Arthur K...that quote you have by Geraghty in the sidebar is classic.

...and I don't know if you all are following the story, but the fed raid on Gibson Guitars is looking more and more like a political operation

Posted by: beedubya at August 27, 2011 03:19 AM (AnTyA)

22 ...and I don't know if you all are following the story, but the fed raid on Gibson Guitars is looking more and more like a political operation

I saw that story yesterday and I wondered if there was something going on beneath the radar.

But rather than advance another conspiracy theory I judged it to be just a continuation of Otrama's regulatory SOBs running ammuck.

Posted by: Vic at August 27, 2011 03:29 AM (M9Ie6)

23 Morning, Morons. For those of you that are contractors and other service providers, word to the wise: If you're going to offer a married couple a discount in return for being payed in cash (i.e., "under the table"), do be sure you're not making your offer to an IRS agent. Heh, heh. We always get a chuckle when that happens.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 03:32 AM (niZvt)

24 Meh...I'm a Fenner man myself. Morn' ya'll.

Posted by: dananjcon at August 27, 2011 03:34 AM (FzVlt)

25 Gonna go finish mowing grass. Back later

Posted by: Vic at August 27, 2011 03:35 AM (M9Ie6)

26 'sup jackwagons?

This is the slooooowest  moving hurricane I have ever seen.


Posted by: Tami at August 27, 2011 03:36 AM (X6akg)

27 Watching the 3 dweebs on FF opine on the dangers of this "storm of the century" is ruining my morning coffee. But juliett huddy looks damn tasty fer sure.

Posted by: dananjcon at August 27, 2011 03:40 AM (vXr7p)

28 But rather than advance another conspiracy theory I judged it to be just a continuation of Otrama's regulatory SOBs running ammuck.

Posted by: Vic at August 27, 2011 07:29 AM (M9Ie6)

The basic underlying premise for the raid is so wrong and wrong-headed that it cannot simply be interpreted as a mistake.

Others import the same stuff, but have had no trouble from the feds at all.

It's politics. The CEO of Gibson contributes to GOP candidates and PACS

It's not as if the Ogabe administration is above this kind of thing. Look at the Boeing situation...the politics is blatant, and to suggest otherwise is laughable

Posted by: beedubya at August 27, 2011 03:45 AM (AnTyA)

29

But juliett huddy looks damn tasty fer sure.

Look but don't touch.  She's been married and divorced three times.  There's crazy in them there smooth, soft hills...

Posted by: Alex at August 27, 2011 03:45 AM (J2ejK)

30 The CEO of Gibson is a conservative? I am now a Gibson man.

Posted by: dananjcon at August 27, 2011 03:49 AM (vXr7p)

31 @26: Hi Tammy. Are you all ready for the storm? I gathered a small transistor radio, a megapack of AA batteries, one 9 Volt flashlight, one flashlight that uses the AA batteries, and one you can crank to generate its own power. Beyond that I bought one of those huge containers of Crystal Rock drinking water and lots and lots of canned food like ravioli, etc., that can be eaten cold. At some point when I judge the storm is getting quite close I'll fill up both tubs with water and we'll hunker down. And that's pretty much it, aside from taking down the window screens and stuff like that. Pretty much the most we have EVER done to get ready for a storm. Let's hope it's gonna be enough, though I think we are going to be knocked off the Net for at least a day or two... How about you, Tammy?

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 03:51 AM (niZvt)

32 29 But juliett huddy looks damn tasty fer sure. Look but don't touch. She's been married and divorced three times. There's crazy in them there smooth, soft hills... Posted by: Alex at August 27, 2011 07:45 AM (J2ejK) THREE times? Jeesh. The gal has more mileage on her than a '73 Chevy... But WHAT wheels!! Juliette has that look that Czechs called a "postelova zenska," i.e., a "bed woman." MEOW!!! I'll bet she's the kind of gal that shaves her pooter curlies into the shape of a little kitten head. I have no evidence of this... except that she is an OBVIOUS Bed Woman.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 03:54 AM (niZvt)

33 Smooth soft, hills...crazy. I don't see a problem.

Posted by: dananjcon at August 27, 2011 03:56 AM (FzVlt)

34 Driving north after securing our DE beach place as best we could. What sustains me during this troubled weekend is this country's "rich Muslim heritage", per Obama, the stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure .

Posted by: No Whining at August 27, 2011 03:56 AM (t3irl)

35 33 Smooth soft, hills...crazy. I don't see a problem. Posted by: dananjcon at August 27, 2011 07:56 AM (FzVlt) Neither did WE.

Posted by: Juliette Husbands One, Two, Three... Testing! at August 27, 2011 03:57 AM (niZvt)

36 Does fender even make Guitars is America anymore? I don't think they do. Gibson does. Why not sick the gov on them so they can leave too. Are they trying to crush every industry? Kill evey job? FKN, Obama.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 27, 2011 03:58 AM (ZDUD4)

37 This is the slooooowest  moving hurricane I have ever seen.

And yet, those talking heads on the tv will continue to tell us how Irene is barreling toward NYC.

I just hope the b*tch doesn't come straight up Chesapeake Bay.

Posted by: Retread at August 27, 2011 04:00 AM (G+7cD)

38 For those of you living along the NT/CT border... here is the National Weather Service advisory: .SITUATION OVERVIEW... RAIN WILL OVERSPREAD THE AREA THIS EVENING...AND WILL BECOME HEAVY OVERNIGHT INTO SUNDAY. TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS IN EXCESS OF 40 MPH WILL ARRIVE DURING THE MORNING HOURS SUNDAY. WINDS IN EXCESS OF 40 MPH WILL CONTINUE MUCH OF SUNDAY WITH GUSTS TO 70 MPH POSSIBLE...ALONG WITH WIND DRIVEN HEAVY RAINS. THE STRONG WINDS AND HEAVY RAIN WILL LEAD TO DOWNED TREES AND POWER LINES...WITH SCATTERED TO NUMEROUS POWER OUTAGES POSSIBLE. IN ADDITION...FLOODING OF MAIN STEM RIVERS...AND MANY SMALLER STREAMS IS POSSIBLE. THERE WILL ALSO LIKELY BE URBAN AND POOR DRAINAGE FLOODING AS WELL AS EXTENSIVE PONDING OF WATER ON ROADS AND OPEN FIELDS. Seems like the storm will arrive in a weakened condition... relatively speaking. GOOD.

Posted by: Juliette Husbands One, Two, Three... Testing! at August 27, 2011 04:02 AM (niZvt)

39 Oh, Off, Juliette panties husbands sock...

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 04:02 AM (niZvt)

40 I believe Fender makes a knock off stratocaster(Squire) in China but the real deal in the states. I could be wrong, haven't been in a band/music sCene in 20 yrs.

Posted by: dananjcon at August 27, 2011 04:03 AM (vXr7p)

41 The CEO of Gibson is a conservative? I am now a Gibson man.

Posted by: dananjcon at August 27, 2011 07:49 AM (vXr7p)

Yeah.

Another reason Gibson is being targeted is that they are in a right-to-work state. They moved their production capacity from Kalamazoo years ago to avoid the unions and the associated costs and troubles.

Look where the other manufacturers are located. None of them seem to be getting hassled by Ogabe and Holder.( I cribbed this list from a comment in another blog)

Fender, Taylor, Rickenbacker, Danelectro, Carvin, MusicMan, and ESP
are in California;
Spector is in New York;
Martin is in Pennsylvania;
Guild, Ovation, and Hamer are in Connecticut;
Alvarez is in Missouri;
B.C. Rich is in Kentucky;
Heritage is in Michigan;
Washburn is in Illinois.

All are forced-union states

It gets better...Peavey is located in Mississippi...and strangely enough...they are being sued by other manufacturers for the claim they are not complying to fed safety and emissions standards

Posted by: beedubya at August 27, 2011 04:04 AM (AnTyA)

42 Heh...FF is broadcasting from Atlantic Beach, NC. I'm going there for vacation next week. We fish off the pier that got half destroyed. Hope the golf courses hold up. The bungalo we stay at is a hundred yards from the beach. Good thing we got vacation inurance!

Posted by: dananjcon at August 27, 2011 04:08 AM (vXr7p)

43 OK, how many morons & ettes are still online as of this morning? M&M, Report!!!! Peaches, you out there? twicedblessedmom? Keep the twins safe for us! Jane Do'h? Vic??

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 04:09 AM (niZvt)

44 ......so what happened??...............

Posted by: phoenixgirl needs a generator for the house at August 27, 2011 04:10 AM (eOXTH)

45 Still online, with nothing falling/blowing in the Baltimore area yet.
Looking at the local radar, we are seeing what looks to be showers moving into the area.
Path looks to be coming from southeast, which would be the right direction if they are the first showers from Irene.

Posted by: Village Idiots Apprentice at August 27, 2011 04:12 AM (oH7DL)

46 I believe Fender makes a knock off stratocaster(Squire) in China but the real deal in the states. I could be wrong, haven't been in a band/music sCene in 20 yrs.

Posted by: dananjcon at August 27, 2011 08:03 AM (vXr7p) 

The Squire is actually a pretty good guitar.

I currently have some Epiphones and Samicks, the latter being located in Indonesia.

I would love to have a Gibson Les Paul Standard Plus, but I just cannot justify paying for the one I want

Posted by: beedubya at August 27, 2011 04:14 AM (AnTyA)

47 @44: To what??

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 04:16 AM (niZvt)

48 Wow, looks like the site had a hickup.

Posted by: Village Idiots Apprentice at August 27, 2011 04:16 AM (oH7DL)

49 Yeah, the squire was my first guitar. I still have it somewhere in the attic. Now I just putz around with a Washburn acoustic.

Posted by: dananjcon at August 27, 2011 04:18 AM (vXr7p)

50 Starting to get long load times, and an occasional "Service not available at this time" message

Someone forgot to feed the hamsters?

Posted by: Village Idiots Apprentice at August 27, 2011 04:20 AM (oH7DL)

51 Oh boy! Just started pouring here in north jersey and the Beagle is getting nervous.

Posted by: dananjcon at August 27, 2011 04:21 AM (q1Tbv)

52 50 It was a dark and stormy night; the rain fell in torrents — except at occasional intervals, when it was checked by a violent gust of wind which swept up the streets (for it is in London that our scene lies), rattling along the housetops, and fiercely agitating the scanty flame of the lamps that struggled against the darkness. -Edward Bulwer-Lytton Posted by: Fish the Impaler at August 27, 2011 08:18 AM (Lt/Za) "Doest thou like what thou sees?," purred the comely elf maiden, as she began to slowly unbutton her mithril halter top." - JRR Tolkien

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 04:22 AM (niZvt)

53 Interwebs working fine on my blackberry, I suggest ya'll switch to a smart phone if possible.

Posted by: dananjcon at August 27, 2011 04:26 AM (q1Tbv)

54 "After each sexual encounter the prostitute received a stamp on her arm, to indicate how often she had been used." Ha! If they did that with American co-eds these days, the poor gals would walk around looking like the freaking Illustrated Man.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 04:26 AM (niZvt)

55 55 Interwebs working fine on my blackberry, I suggest ya'll switch to a smart phone if possible. Posted by: dananjcon at August 27, 2011 08:26 AM (q1Tbv) Being a completely henpecked little man, the wife does not allow me to spend money on smartphone internet service. Oddly, she believes that AoSHQ is a complete & utter waste of time. I try to explain that nothing can be more intellectually stimulating than chatting with strange morons online, but for some reason, she just doesn't see it...

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 04:28 AM (niZvt)

56 54 Factoid: Nine months after a major hurricane event, maternity wards are fully engaged delivering new babies named Dawn, Windy, Storm, and Cletus. Posted by: Fish the Impaler at August 27, 2011 08:24 AM (Lt/Za) Girls named Windtunnel can be a turn on.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 04:29 AM (niZvt)

57 Dr Edward Schultz, scrotumologist

Posted by: MSNBC, the carnival sideshow at August 27, 2011 04:31 AM (hn7Yz)

58 59 Germany is the plain girl who looks like a supermodel, becuse she's hangs bangs baggers, trolls, and trannies. Posted by: Beefy Meatball at August 27, 2011 08:30 AM (bZ8J6) FTFY Where are the AoSHQ servers located, anyway? The blog is acting up, and I get the feeling we're going to lose the blog before the storm even hits up here

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 04:32 AM (niZvt)

59

Around twelve years ago, I purchased a Fender Squire Precision Bass that was made in China for $175. It's not a bad guitar, it has a buzz at G when one of the two-piece tuning keys rattle, but that's about it. I have some flatwound strings on it, which sound OK. The word "adequate" comes to mind.

If something happened to it, I wouldn't miss it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 27, 2011 04:34 AM (d0Tfm)

60 Hey, does AoSHQ have redundant power supplies and a UPS so power failures don't happen? Does AoSHQ have hardware RAID and hot-swap drives, so no downtime will be necessary? Is AosHQ looking at other dedicated server/colo providers???

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 04:43 AM (niZvt)

61 Where the hell IS everybody??? I get that the eastern & especially (at the moment) southeastern morons are preoccupied, but what about the morons out West??? I guess this was always predominantly a Deep South blog??

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 04:47 AM (niZvt)

62 Where are the AoSHQ servers located, anyway?

Australia

Posted by: Tami at August 27, 2011 04:51 AM (X6akg)

63 Thank you for the link to the Lewis article, which was fascinating and well written.

Posted by: Tonawanda at August 27, 2011 04:52 AM (fgysf)

64 Link to a great listing of Obama's disastrous economic failings... http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/08/26/jonathan-alter-challenge/ And that doesn't even get into his foreign policy fiascos, or the fact he destroyed the manned space program.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 04:53 AM (niZvt)

65 Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 08:43 AM (niZvt) Given the antiquated nature of the blogging software, what do you think?

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 27, 2011 04:54 AM (c0A3e)

66 Still getting multiple fail to loads on refresh.

And I place the blame firmly at the SCFoaMF's feet.
Is there nothing that this man can't f*ck up?

Posted by: Village Idiots Apprentice at August 27, 2011 04:55 AM (oH7DL)

67 We are here CoolCzech, just lurking

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 27, 2011 04:55 AM (0OJd9)

68 65 Where are the AoSHQ servers located, anyway? Australia Posted by: Tami at August 27, 2011 08:51 AM (X6akg) That reminds me of my hilarious joke - if I say so myself - that a good title for Australian lesbian porn would be, "Aussie Girls Go Down Under." I never get the full appreciation I deserve around here. *Sigh*

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 04:56 AM (niZvt)

69 And that's pretty much it, aside from taking down the window screens and stuff like that. Why do you take the screens down? Is that just so they don't get blown away?

Posted by: Laura Castellano at August 27, 2011 04:56 AM (fuw6p)

70 TWC yappers just said we haven't had a hurricane make landfall in the CONUS for three years. No wonder the MBM is practically orgasmic over Irene. And I guess it has lifted Al Gore's spirits considerably: Glowball warming is real!!

Posted by: Retread at August 27, 2011 04:58 AM (G+7cD)

71 68 Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 08:43 AM (niZvt) Given the antiquated nature of the blogging software, what do you think? Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 27, 2011 08:54 AM (c0A3e) My suspicion is that the AoSHQ server systems involve lots and lots of rubber bands...

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 04:58 AM (niZvt)

72 Why do you take the screens down? Is that just so they don't get blown away? Posted by: Laura Castellano at August 27, 2011 08:56 AM (fuw6p) That's what I'm worried about, yeah. I don't know how valid a fear that is - they seem pretty snug and secure - but I've never gone thru a hurricane with them before, either.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 05:01 AM (niZvt)

73 Why do you take the screens down? Is that just so they don't get blown away?

Posted by: Laura Castellano at August 27, 2011 08:56 AM (fuw6p)

Wait...I'm suppose to take all the window screens off?  Ooooh...I don't think so.

Posted by: Tami at August 27, 2011 05:02 AM (X6akg)

74 I'm fishing for somebody, just SOMEBODY, to tell me, "YES, CoolCzech, we DO appreciate your posts!," BUT I can clearly the truth of the matter. Only one thing to do... I'm going to get a fresh cup of coffee from downstairs.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 05:03 AM (niZvt)

75 @76: Why? Should screens come off or not???

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 05:04 AM (niZvt)

76 Zero hurricane experience here.

Posted by: Laura Castellano at August 27, 2011 05:05 AM (fuw6p)

77 78 @76: Why?

Should screens come off or not???

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 09:04 AM (niZvt)

Because this house has a shitload of windows and my husband is in India.

Posted by: Tami at August 27, 2011 05:08 AM (X6akg)

78

 Zero hurricane experience here.

I've been through four just this decade, IIRC. Unlike earthquakes, we know they're coming and have time to prepare.

Think of a tornado that lasts for about three hours.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 27, 2011 05:10 AM (d0Tfm)

79 Should screens come off or not???


Depends on how high the wind gusts are expected to be.

Have you ever seen one sail through the air and embed itself in your neighbor's car? I just open the window, take off the screen and sit it on the floor, ready to go back on the window when the wind is over.

Posted by: Retread at August 27, 2011 05:11 AM (G+7cD)

80 "Because this behavior is rather alien to Germans. Germans save whenever possible. This is deeply in German genes. Perhaps a leftover of the collective memory of the Great Depression and the hyperinflation of the 1920s."

This makes no friggin' sense whatsoever. Savers get ass raped during hyperinflation. The people who win big in hyperinflation are the debtors. Think about it: saver has "$100" in the bank that's now worth about 5 cents. Fail. Debtor owes "$100" that can now be repaid with the equivalent of 5 cents. EPIC Win.

Posted by: Hoobert Heever at August 27, 2011 05:11 AM (CEOIK)

81 sounds like the German banks themselves invested in a bunch of hinky foreign shit anyway, because they couldn't get no satisfaction at home. 

Posted by: jeanne at August 27, 2011 05:12 AM (kWf6f)

82 I googled the question of screens and hurricanes and found no real answers except to put plywood over our windows... which I am NOT going to do up here in New England. Jeesh, the holes in the walls would probably be the worst damage of the storm. I think I will take off the screens, at least on the side facing the river valley below our ridge. That's where the winds usually come from.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 05:12 AM (niZvt)

83 Honestly, Germany is a fun place.  It's not rigid for rigid's sake.  Rules actually have value/use.
Posted by: SFGoth
..............
You apparently have never worked for a German..  or, are one yourself.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 27, 2011 05:13 AM (UTq/I)

84 OT:  Jedediah Bila and SE Cupp get into a jello wrestling match on live TV.  Who wins?

Posted by: Alex at August 27, 2011 05:13 AM (J2ejK)

85 These long refreshes make me wonder if we're about to break Pixy's blog.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 27, 2011 05:18 AM (d0Tfm)

86 OT:  Jedediah Bila and SE Cupp get into a jello wrestling match on live TV.  Who wins?
Easy, we all do!

Posted by: Stevea28 at August 27, 2011 05:19 AM (CSFhQ)

87 We're gonna rock this town, rock it inside out.
Rock this town, make you scream and shou hout.

Let's rock
Rock
Rock man Rock
We're gonna rock till we pop
We're gonna rock till we drop
Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure
We're gonna rock this town
Rock it inside out.


Posted by: Stray (and unemployed) Cat at August 27, 2011 05:21 AM (nw/7d)

88 O/T:  I really didn't know where to put this, apparently the secy of ed decided to attack perry on education and this article is the defense.

In defense of Americans, a friend's parents were found to have owed half a million to the I  R  S cause of an error in math.  When they said they couldn't pay it all at once but would gladly love a payment plan, the I  R  S guy said "refinance your house and get the money that way, everyone does it, but no matter what, we'll get our money".

So if the I  R  S is saying "refinance your house and use it as a piggy bank, there's almost no hope.

Posted by: curious at August 27, 2011 05:25 AM (k1rwm)

89

77

CoolCzech: I appreciate your posts.  Do you need a hug?

----------------------------------------------------------------

Good luck to all the East Coast 'rons and 'ettes as you batten down the hatches for the hurricane.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at August 27, 2011 05:26 AM (M0NzJ)

90 87 Honestly, Germany is a fun place. It's not rigid for rigid's sake. Rules actually have value/use. Posted by: SFGoth .............. You apparently have never worked for a German.. or, are one yourself. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 27, 2011 09:13 AM (UTq/I) HEH! I've been watching my DVD set of Civilizations, the famous old BBC series. The Non-PC that the wonderful art historian that hosted that series says! For example, his remarks about Neurotic, hysterically introspective German and their need for A Leader... and the ramifications of that for all their neighbors... are priceless. As are his completely unapologetic - AND accurate, in my view - dismissal of so-called "Modern Art" as "hideous." Ahhh, there was a time, Ladies and Gentlemen, when people were actually FREE to SPEAK THEIR MIND. 40 years ago, alas.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 05:27 AM (niZvt)

91 77 CoolCzech: I appreciate your posts. Do you need a hug? Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at August 27, 2011 09:26 AM (M0NzJ) Well, YEAH... I was running around like crazy yesterday to prep for the storm (I know, I should not have allowed the media to get me too excited) and the Mrs. was just NOT helping out at all; she's firmly convinced it will turn out to be one big nothingburger. I hope she's right, but you start to feel panicky when the battery and flashlight and bottled water racks are all empty. But if its OK with you, can I get it from twicedblessedmom... a really tight boobie-squish one??

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 05:31 AM (niZvt)

92 I have never understood why the Tea Party insisted on winning the culture and that taxes which were being extracted from the citizens of the states be rejected to send a "message to Obama," with that message apparently being "sure, use my taxes to subsidize other states."

Posted by: perry's site at August 27, 2011 05:34 AM (Ou4YC)

93 It's not a bad guitar, it has a buzz at G when one of the two-piece tuning keys rattle,

what a coinky-dink, I have an Ibanez jazz box from China, beautiful thing but the G rattles at the bridge.   Oh well!

BTW Gibson also has a factory in Bozeman, MT..think they make acoustics.

Posted by: jeanne at August 27, 2011 05:35 AM (kWf6f)

94 Central NC is warm with gusty winds, looks like we're gonna miss the show. Coastal towns are getting hit, but I've seen far worse many times. If the winds drop another 5-10 mph, and don't kick right back up, Irene will be down to tropical storm status by the time NYC/ NE meet her.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 27, 2011 05:37 AM (FzVlt)

95 "German people all know at least one fact about the euro: that before they agreed to trade in their deutsche marks their leaders promised them, explicitly, they would never be required to bail out other countries."

Feeling proud of my German heritage!   But the rule was already violated last year.


Posted by: jeanne at August 27, 2011 05:38 AM (kWf6f)

96 I was running around like crazy yesterday to prep for the storm (I know, I should not have allowed the media to get me too excited)

We get slammed just often enough to do the prep every time. When the power is out it helps to know you have that cooler full of iced down beer to drink while you grill all that thawing out cow critter from the freezer. Makes you the most popular family on the street.

Posted by: Retread at August 27, 2011 05:41 AM (G+7cD)

97 Luckily, the German I worked for was a friend, and it was only on a consulting basis.  I built his order entry system from scratch - first in DOS with a dBase compiled program, then again in Windows.

Working for a German on an hourly basis is kinda fun.. they know their anal retentiveness is costing them more and more each hour they keep you there lining up every character on every report until it is "just so".. but, they can't help themselves!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 27, 2011 05:42 AM (UTq/I)

98

I was running around like crazy yesterday to prep for the storm (I know, I should not have allowed the media to get me too excited) and the Mrs. was just NOT helping out at all; she's firmly convinced it will turn out to be one big nothingburger.

 

Oh! We should put her and Mr. Dagny into a crisis situation and see what happens. He went off to watch a football scrimmage and I did all the heavy physical labor. You know how hard it is to lift those huge market umbrellas out of glass tables when you're 5'3"? I had to carry all the lawn furniture around the house to the garage one piece at a time. Plus I lifted multiple buckets of water to fill some big plastic tubs since during Isabel we lost flushing (no water) which was the worst thing ever.

Posted by: dagny at August 27, 2011 05:44 AM (PlWAW)

99 Heh...just after bragging how my blackerry was blogging nicely, I lost ya's.
Sniff**sniff**
I'm on the PC now and it still sucks.
C'mon Pixy, yo can do it!

Oh and Shemp Smith is is at hurricane- hand-wringing ELEVENTY!! What smug putz!

Posted by: dananjcon at August 27, 2011 05:45 AM (cU588)

100 Being a German I just love how  Chi-Town Jerry and everybody else here just knows how Germans really are. What a bunch of prententious bullshit.

Posted by: Ma Bell at August 27, 2011 05:47 AM (H/MnC)

101 I have an Epiphone SG that was almost impossible to properly intonate the G string.  It drove me frickin' crazy.  2 frets up and it was out of tune, even when open and the twelfth fret were perfectly in tune.  I mostly play acoustic, so I don't use all the effects and stuff that would mask this.. most of my electric playing friends could not even hear the problem.

I finally found a forum that suggested using a slightly thicker wound G string instead of unwound, and that did the trick.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 27, 2011 05:48 AM (UTq/I)

102 As are his completely unapologetic - AND accurate, in my view - dismissal of so-called "Modern Art" as "hideous."

Ahhh, there was a time, Ladies and Gentlemen, when people were actually FREE to SPEAK THEIR MIND. 40 years ago, alas.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 09:27 AM (niZvt) 

Amen to that. I'll have to see if I can find a copy of that series.




Posted by: beedubya at August 27, 2011 05:49 AM (AnTyA)

103 107 Being a German I just love how Chi-Town Jerry and everybody else here just knows how Germans really are. What a bunch of prententious bullshit. Posted by: Ma Bell at August 27, 2011 09:47 AM (H/MnC) Have yo ever seen the movie Beerfest, I love you guys.

Posted by: dananjcon at August 27, 2011 05:50 AM (cU588)

104 Being a German I just love how  Chi-Town Jerry and everybody else here just knows how Germans really are. What a bunch of prententious bullshit. Posted by: Ma Bell
.............
Ha.. typical German's reaction!

lol

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 27, 2011 05:51 AM (UTq/I)

105 is it me? or does that storm pic on the side bar look like a rainbow colored penis?

Posted by: phoenixgirl needs a generator for the house at August 27, 2011 05:51 AM (eOXTH)

106 A neat gadget to watch the hurricane (Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure) with.  Right now it's just passed by Morehead.

Heh. Morehead.

Posted by: K~Bob at August 27, 2011 05:52 AM (9b6FB)

107 Mmmmmm I love rainbow colored cocks.

Posted by: ace at August 27, 2011 05:59 AM (c1RgK)

108 Posted by: ace at August 27, 2011 09:59 AM (c1RgK) Socking the blog host/owner is bush league you twit. Now run along and go suck some of that rainbow colored Kos cock, light weight troll.

Posted by: dananjcon at August 27, 2011 06:05 AM (cU588)

109 formatting as well as refresh is in epic fail mode now.

Posted by: dananjcon at August 27, 2011 06:06 AM (cU588)

110 Socking Ace is the death sentence here is it not?

Posted by: De' Debil Hisself at August 27, 2011 06:07 AM (j5CHE)

111 The Non-PC that the wonderful art historian that hosted that series says!

Criticizing white euros is always PC.

Posted by: jeanne at August 27, 2011 06:07 AM (kWf6f)

112 118 Socking Ace is the death sentence here is it not?

Posted by: De' Debil Hisself at August 27, 2011 10:07 AM (j5CHE)

Yeah, but it seems to have scurried along.

Posted by: dananjcon at August 27, 2011 06:09 AM (cU588)

113 112 is it me? or does that storm pic on the side bar look like a rainbow colored penis?

Posted by: phoenixgirl needs a generator for the house at August 27, 2011 09:51 AM (eOXTH)

I think you need something other than a generator. ;o)

Posted by: Tami at August 27, 2011 06:10 AM (X6akg)

114

Well, since some of you met a German once, or had a great-great-great grandma who's grandma was German you must really know what germans are like. Or some of you were stationed in germany at one time and really knew the germans that lived around the bases or posts, you know germans (really?). But since the pixy hamster don't seem to be working for me this morning, I have a hard time to put you in some knowledge.

Good thing is, since my ex-husband was a fucking pedophile, I don't think all americans are fucking pedophiles. So lay off the damn stereotyping, like getting your advanced knowledge about germans from idiotic movies like Beerfest

Posted by: Ma Bell at August 27, 2011 06:11 AM (H/MnC)

115 For those interested and cuz this place seems deserted & broke, Weazel Zip has some interesting posts up now.

Posted by: dananjcon at August 27, 2011 06:11 AM (cU588)

116 "Dawn, Windy, Storm, and Cletus." Three bachelor party entertainers and their bouncer.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at August 27, 2011 06:12 AM (cbyrC)

117 107 Being a German I just love how Chi-Town Jerry and everybody else here just knows how Germans really are. What a bunch of prententious bullshit. Posted by: Ma Bell at August 27, 2011 09:47 AM (H/MnC) Oh, I don't know Ma Bell... Czechs collectively had quite a lot of exposure to Germans for over a millennium. Of course individual people are not all the same, but there is a built-in arrogance and Master Race mentality in their culture that can really come to the fore, especially when they mass. Of course, people of German descent in America haven't imbibed that culture and mentality. But you would be hard pressed to convince eastern Europeans especially that it is just a myth.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 06:12 AM (niZvt)

118 tami lol

Posted by: phoenixgirl needs a generator for the house at August 27, 2011 06:14 AM (eOXTH)

119 The rain has begun here in Connecticut, as of 30 minutes ago. A light but steady downpour, as of the moment.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 06:14 AM (niZvt)

120

Good thing is, since my ex-husband was a fucking pedophile, I don't think all americans are fucking pedophiles. So lay off the damn stereotyping, like getting your advanced knowledge about germans from idiotic movies like Beerfest

Posted by: Ma Bell at August 27, 2011 10:11 AM (H/MnC)

Hey I feel your pain Ma, but don't lecture me on stereotypes. I'm Polish/Italian.

I enjoy  your posts, lighten-up were on the same team.



Posted by: dananjcon at August 27, 2011 06:15 AM (cU588)

121 Obama signs exec order creating office of diversity and inclusion? They've fallen completely down the rabbit hole--not even pretending not to be full out freaks.

Posted by: dagny at August 27, 2011 06:15 AM (PlWAW)

122 The rain has begun here in Connecticut, as of 30 minutes ago.

A light but steady downpour, as of the moment.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 10:14 AM (niZvt)

Where are you CC?  Not raining here.

Posted by: Tami at August 27, 2011 06:16 AM (X6akg)

123 130 dagny we are sorry you feel this way....you are clearly not on our side and are no longer included in our diversity.....

Posted by: the office of diversity and inclusion at August 27, 2011 06:17 AM (eOXTH)

124 OK, no one told me putting plastic sheeting in bathtubs is a effing pain in the ass!

Posted by: Tami at August 27, 2011 06:18 AM (X6akg)

125 Posted by: Ma Bell at August 27, 2011 10:11 AM (H/MnC)


And sorry to hear about your ex, thats horrible. Hope you have found some peace.

Posted by: dananjcon at August 27, 2011 06:18 AM (cU588)

126

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 10:12 AM (niZvt)

Maybe you should look a little farther east (the Russians for example) to talk about amassed "grössenwahn", since half off my relatives are from russia, poland and what used to be "Tchechoslovakien", my uncle and cousins still live in Praque.

Posted by: Ma Bell at August 27, 2011 06:18 AM (H/MnC)

127 Where are you CC? Not raining here. Posted by: Tami at August 27, 2011 10:16 AM (X6akg) On the NY border, halfway up the state.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 06:19 AM (niZvt)

128 This Hurricane is the perfect metaphor for Obama.  Started out with lots of hype; given respect it didn't deserve; and it caused a bunch of money to be spent for nothing.  Just as this storm was downgraded before making landfall, Obama has been reclassified as a strong tropical storm that blows a bunch, makes a mess for everyone else to clean up, and will hopefully be soon forgotten.

Posted by: Knaws at August 27, 2011 06:19 AM (enHeF)

129 German/Scots/Polish mix here.  IOW, an authoritarian cheap dumb alcohol-infused bastard with a thing for girls sporting huge tracts of land.  You know, a typical moron.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 27, 2011 06:20 AM (4q5tP)

130 but there is a built-in arrogance and Master Race mentality in their culture that can really come to the fore, especially when they mass.

CC, you've met my mother, haven't you?

Posted by: Retread at August 27, 2011 06:20 AM (G+7cD)

131 OK, no one told me putting plastic sheeting in bathtubs is a effing pain in the ass!

Why is that necessary?

Posted by: jwb7605 at August 27, 2011 06:20 AM (Qxe/p)

132 The difference is that the US federal government (all branches) FORCED Wall Street to make and market these crap mortgage securities.  It had nothing to do with anyone's personal choice.  If the banks and investment banks didn't do what the govenrment said (pervert the debt markets and intentionally misprice debt to give loans to people who never should have gotten loans - at least not at that interest rate, though they would have been decent risks at 3 or 4 points higher ... but the federal government wouldn't allow anyone to price that debt correctly).

This is not about American culture.  It's about an out-of-control feral government that is doing all sorts of shit under the radar that people don't even hear about until it blows up in our faces.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 27, 2011 06:20 AM (F5tJy)

133 133 just wait till you have to lift the body into the tub, wrap it , tape it and lug it out to the hole you were digging all night.......

Posted by: the one who knows where the bodies are buried at August 27, 2011 06:21 AM (eOXTH)

134 Outer band stuff. This does have to be the slowest storm ever. Ugh.

Posted by: dagny at August 27, 2011 06:21 AM (PlWAW)

135 140 OK, no one told me putting plastic sheeting in bathtubs is a effing pain in the ass!

Richard Ramirez?? Is that you?


Posted by: dananjcon at August 27, 2011 06:23 AM (cU588)

136 @135: Look Ma, I know it's no pleasant thing to hear... but trust me, the collective Czech and Polish and Russian experience with Germans TO THIS DAY is not just imaginary. My second cousin's job in Prague involved her calling into Germany all the time and the things that came out of their mouths once they realized she was Czech... well, this girl that is quite liberal and well educated and took courses in London that taught her the usual liberal claptrap walked away from that experience saying, "Their ALL a bunch of Nazi racists!" And it's definitely NOT just her... or JUST the Czechs. EVERYONE around them feels that they can be arrogant assholes. If everyone around them FEELS that way... maybe you should pick your bone on the subject with the GERMANS that manage to send that vibe out so strongly.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 06:23 AM (niZvt)

137 OK, no one told me putting plastic sheeting in bathtubs is a effing pain in the ass!

Why is that necessary?

Posted by: jwb7605 at August 27, 2011 10:20 AM (Qxe/p)

To have a water supply in case it goes out.  Can't just fill up the bathtub because it will slowly leak out the drain.

Posted by: Tami at August 27, 2011 06:24 AM (X6akg)

138 coolczech i love you man....but honestly, that last comment was over the line.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 27, 2011 06:25 AM (eOXTH)

139 139 but there is a built-in arrogance and Master Race mentality in their culture that can really come to the fore, especially when they mass. CC, you've met my mother, haven't you? Posted by: Retread at August 27, 2011 10:20 AM (G+7cD) If she was the one at Frankfurt International shooting me and my Asian wife dirty looks because she thought I was just a US Army private... YES, I may have!!

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 06:25 AM (niZvt)

140 146 tami i thought you just didn't want to clean the tub......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 27, 2011 06:25 AM (eOXTH)

141 Funny how I don't remember anything near this hysteria for "The Storm of the Century".  That was last century, so I guess it doesn't count ... being like over 100 years ago in a bygone century", as Ezra Klein would say.  I also don't recall this sort of hysteria associated with two massive ice storms that hit the Northeast in the 90s (one right after the other).  And, it's as if Nor'Easters have never existed.

This nation is just losing it, big time.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 27, 2011 06:26 AM (F5tJy)

142 just wait till you have to lift the body into the tub, wrap it , tape it and lug it out to the hole you were digging all night.......

Posted by: the one who knows where the bodies are buried at August 27, 2011 10:21 AM (eOXTH)

I need Dexter lessons. 

Posted by: Tami at August 27, 2011 06:26 AM (X6akg)

143 This is not about American culture.  It's about an out-of-control feral government that is doing all sorts of shit under the radar that people don't even hear about until it blows up in our faces.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 27, 2011 10:20 AM (F5tJy)

I actually benefitted from an FHA/Fanny low down paymeny mortgage and have never missed a payment. Problem is, for every one of me there is probably 3 deadbeats.


Posted by: dananjcon at August 27, 2011 06:26 AM (cU588)

144 i thought you just didn't want to clean the tub......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 27, 2011 10:25 AM (eOXTH)

There's that too....

Posted by: Tami at August 27, 2011 06:26 AM (X6akg)

145 NOAA has a thingy that shows storm surge of up to 12 feet along coastal Nawf Colina

Posted by: K~Bob at August 27, 2011 06:26 AM (9b6FB)

146 i thought you just didn't want to clean the tub......

I was wondering why she didn't want it to get wet.

Posted by: jwb7605 at August 27, 2011 06:27 AM (Qxe/p)

147 @147: I'm just reporting what my second cousin said, hyperbole included. But you Americans really have no idea just how deep animosity to German runs in eastern Europe, and how deeply they are resented.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 06:27 AM (niZvt)

148 NOAA has a thingy that shows storm surge of up to 12 feet along coastal Nawf Colina

NOAA is 6 miles west of me.
At 5500 feet.

Posted by: jwb7605 at August 27, 2011 06:28 AM (Qxe/p)

149 It's the only surge Obama's gonna get.

Posted by: K~Bob at August 27, 2011 06:29 AM (9b6FB)

150 Oh, Beerfest was a cinematic tour-de-force.

Posted by: dananjcon at August 27, 2011 06:29 AM (cU588)

151 Now its an absolute downpour outside...

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 06:29 AM (niZvt)

152 I'm just reporting what my second cousin said, hyperbole included. But you Americans really have no idea just how deep animosity to German runs in eastern Europe, and how deeply they are resented.

It's only bound to get worse, now that Germany has refused to pay reparations.

Posted by: jwb7605 at August 27, 2011 06:30 AM (Qxe/p)

153

One of the insidious things about the Social Security program here in the US, is the way it gradually eroded people's regard for the necessity of having their own Savings for their old age.

It fostered the concept of  'entitlement'...Since people had paid into it -- they rightfully felt entitled to it.

The unfortunate thing, is that most people don't understand that their employer is required to match every dollar that they are withholding in SocSec [& Medicare] from each paycheck.....So when jobs are killed, that is a loss times 2 in contributions to the ponzi scheme.

Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at August 27, 2011 06:30 AM (X0fQW)

154 ...and I don't know if you all are following the story, but the fed raid on Gibson Guitars is looking more and more like a political operation

Posted by: beedubya at August 27, 2011 07:19 AM (AnTyA)

Yeah, but a narrow one.  Gibson employees aren't big political givers and even the CEO gave around a grand total of $6000 this past election season.  He didn't even give to McCain, although he gave some to Huck.

Why do I think that one of Obama's biggest supporters would benefit greatly from Gibson's demise?

BTW, remember all of the IRS investigations against conservatives in the Clinton era?  It was pretty blatant.  We haven't really seen that with Obama.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 27, 2011 06:31 AM (73tyQ)

155 I hope to live to see a time with the JEF, grey-haired and rich beyond belief (of course), but holed up in his megamansion, with his legacy out and about as having been the worst of all presidents. 

My old and weathered 2012 bumper stickers will still be on whatever vehicle I'm driving then, if cars and trucks are still allowed.

Posted by: I'm in a New York state of mind at August 27, 2011 06:31 AM (4sQwu)

156 If she was the one at Frankfurt International shooting me and my Asian wife dirty looks because she thought I was just a US Army private... YES, I may have!!

No, that wasn't her, she kinda favors the military, if you get my drift.

Posted by: Retread at August 27, 2011 06:33 AM (G+7cD)

157 DAMNIT!!

I fell asleep!

What happened to the awning?!!!

Posted by: As If! at August 27, 2011 06:33 AM (piMMO)

158

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 10:23 AM (niZvt)

Give it a break. Just like Czechs can be arrogant assholes, or poles, or the french or the british or americans for that matter. If you don't like germans because of what happened during WWII you will never change your mind, but maybe you should dig a lot deeper into european history to find out that at one point or another every country came to the conclusion they were better than someone else. Isn't that true for how the USA thinks, or is this thing about exceptionalism just my fantasy. All I am asking is to stop stereotyping and not lecturing me about arrogance. I still have relatives , my mother included, that lived through Hitler and most of them were not considered "masterrace" because of their political views and or heritage, even so they were germans.

Posted by: Ma Bell at August 27, 2011 06:34 AM (H/MnC)

159 I did a google on SCOAMF and found out several trusty Morons have already entered it into the Urban Dictionary.

Now they need to add SCOAMFOTUS. I predict (you read it here first) that'll come to be pronounced "ScumFoatus" which is nice.  So he's got that goin' for him.

Posted by: K~Bob at August 27, 2011 06:34 AM (9b6FB)

160
What happened to the awning?!!!

Posted by: As If! at August 27, 2011 10:33 AM (piMMO)


Check you neighbor's pool.


Posted by: dananjcon at August 27, 2011 06:35 AM (cU588)

161

The ONLY way to stop this is to stop the Cargo Cult of America.

I and others have been promoting the idea of stopping those who take money from the government from voting for the members of that government. It is a conflict of interest writ large. It is completely constitutional. Taking the government money is voluntary. You then also voluntarily recuse yourself from voting. Anyone caught violating this law would lose their vote as it would be a felony conflict of interest. Simple. Probably impossible to enact, but simple.

Posted by: chuck in st paul at August 27, 2011 06:35 AM (EhYdw)

162 It's only bound to get worse, now that Germany has refused to pay reparations. Posted by: jwb7605 at August 27, 2011 10:30 AM (Qxe/p) Honestly, I don't think Czechs anyway care less about reparations. It's two things, really: History, which is something that is hard to overcome. And then there are the collective experiences even today of how they feel they are treated by German tourists in their own country. I have not one relative, not one Czech friend, that won't readily relate their latest outrage. Now, maybe there is a certain amount of, "They go into an encounter with a German EXPECTING how they will act, so they misinterpret all that happens", going on... But honestly. Let's get real here.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 06:35 AM (niZvt)

163

I actually benefitted from an FHA/Fanny low down paymeny mortgage and have never missed a payment. Problem is, for every one of me there is probably 3 deadbeats.

Posted by: dananjcon at August 27, 2011 10:26 AM (cU58

There was nothing inherently wrong with the loans they gave out.  Low downpayment loans are just fine - if the credit worthiness of the borrower is good enough to justify it.  The problem was that the feral government forced banks to ignore the creditworthiness of the low income borrowers (forcing them to count welfare payments as income, for a very simple example) and pervert the debt markets in order to accomodate these awful loans - imagining that this perversion of debt pricing could be quarantined in the sub-sub-prime shit loans ... but arbitrage is more active in the debt markets than anything else and those perversions of price were guaranteed to make their way through the whole system, which they did.  The only thing that kept the mispricing hidden was the "implicit" guarantee by Fannie and Freddie. 

So, in the end, most of those loans were totally unjustifiable, either in terms of too low downpayment or the interest rate being too low, but that was exactly what the feral government set out to force on the banks and the debt markets.  There was a good reason for redlining, and the credit crisis showed it.

That said, even lots of bad loans pay off in a timely fashion.  It's just at the margins that you get the big differences, but with the leveraged nature of these instruments, those marginal changes can have gigantic impacts.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 27, 2011 06:35 AM (F5tJy)

164

Posted by: K~Bob at August 27, 2011 10:34 AM (9b6FB)

Keep updinging! 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 27, 2011 06:36 AM (c0A3e)

165 @168: let's agree to disagree on that one, Ma Bell. It's a no win argument.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 06:37 AM (niZvt)

166 Comanche/Moravian here.

Posted by: texette at August 27, 2011 06:37 AM (pcdjz)

167 169 I did a google on SCOAMF and found out several trusty Morons have already entered it into the Urban Dictionary.

Now they need to add SCOAMFOTUS. I predict (you read it here first) that'll come to be pronounced "ScumFoatus" which is nice.  So he's got that goin' for him.

Posted by: K~Bob at August 27, 2011 10:34 AM (9b6FB)


Thats just awesome.

Posted by: dananjcon at August 27, 2011 06:37 AM (cU588)

168 Mayor Mikie Bloomberg was just on TWC calling his subjects stupid idiots. Oh, and criminals. Persuasive guy.

Posted by: Retread at August 27, 2011 06:38 AM (G+7cD)

169 That's the DOOM signal, but as long as you're stocked up on the necessities like condoms, Beanie-Weenies, grog, bat-tree's, and a neighbor with a warm fuzzy, it's all good. Posted by: Fish the Impaler at August 27, 2011 10:32 AM (Lt/Za) Hell, a guy can have himself a pretty good time in Vegas, with all that...

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 06:38 AM (niZvt)

170 I did a google on SCOAMF and found out several trusty Morons have already entered it into the Urban Dictionary.

Posted by: K~Bob at August 27, 2011 10:34 AM (9b6FB)

The urban dictionary carries "Precedent Obama" as a positive title for Barky.  LOL.  I can't tell you how many leftists tried to get on my ass over calling the Indonesian Imbecile "The Precedent".

Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 27, 2011 06:39 AM (F5tJy)

171

Was working up a witty comment on my admiration for Captain Von Trapp's sense of household order and discipline, especially with regards to raising children (all that whistle blowing and marching about gets me right, *here*, everytime.  But now the mood is spoiled.

 

BTW, my ex-wife (child of '60s hippies) never shared in my affinity for rules, order, planning, structure, etc.  She was definitely more the free-flowing type.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 27, 2011 06:40 AM (4q5tP)

172

Keep updinging! 

Posted by: Kratos

Done, and you can vote each time you open your browser.

Posted by: Retread at August 27, 2011 06:40 AM (G+7cD)

173 I had scripts off, so I din't even know there were dingers.  I just updinged 'em.

I'm adding it into my comments at other blogs, too.  It's so wrong, it's right!

Posted by: K~Bob at August 27, 2011 06:41 AM (9b6FB)

174 The CEO of Gibson is a conservative? I am now a Gibson man.

No.  A fellow conservative does not necessarily a friend make.  I've run up against Gibson legally several times, and Henry is an abusive, unreasonable prick.

You may want to like him but you wouldn't if you knew him.

Posted by: Blacksheep at August 27, 2011 06:42 AM (Yd5KG)

175 Honestly, I don't think Czechs anyway care less about reparations.

That was meant to be somewhat light hearted.
I've visited Europe ONCE -- to Sweden.

Business trip, but we managed to see that ship designed by bureaucrats that sunk in the harbor -- countries used to build things with really insulting depictions of citizens of other countries -- in that particular case, Poles.

Go to the Philippines and discuss the Japanese.
Go to Japan and discuss the Chinese.
Hell, just go to any American Indian Reservation and discuss any European culture.

Germans have a lock on nothing.

Posted by: jwb7605 at August 27, 2011 06:43 AM (Qxe/p)

176 68: let's agree to disagree on that one, Ma Bell. It's a no win argument.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 10:37 AM (niZvt)

That's why I said to stop stereotyping. Everybody goes at it with preconceived notions and make things the way they expect it to be. I always had an open mind, but I also don't give a shit (I am honeybadger that way) what someone thinks of me just because i am german. But at one point I lost it. Had a boss who every time he saw me greeted me with the Hitler salute. One day I lost it and I basically cornered him and really let loose. He was a 6'4 Somoan, about 350 pounds, but looked very small at that moment. He got fired, I didn't. Of course he later claimed descrimination

 

 

Posted by: Ma Bell at August 27, 2011 06:45 AM (H/MnC)

177 176 Comanche/Moravian here. Posted by: texette at August 27, 2011 10:37 AM (pcdjz) And Czech girls can be pretty cute... so with your Comanche side that makes you a sexy blonde that loves Reverse Cowgirl... Interesting thing about Moravian Czechs is that they while they will in the end ADMIT they really ARE Czechs after all... they nevertheless prefer to call themselves Moravians.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 06:46 AM (niZvt)

178 BTW, any of you'se Morons/ettes with your own blogs should put the SCOAMFOTUS thingy there, too.  Right now its Google presence is mostly confined to minx.cc pages.

More stuff like I saw at lolbamas.com, please.

Posted by: K~Bob at August 27, 2011 06:46 AM (9b6FB)

179 ArthurK, We need to change the culture so it doesn't matter if we elect the right people or not.

Changing the culture with all the wrong people, Obama's done that.

Whether we elect the "right" people certainly makes the difference in timing the cultural transition of making it profitable to motivate the wrong people to do the right thing. Timing the effective D9 response obviously matters, given the permeation of DOOM. Who gets elected certainly does matter, since more of the same corrupting "wrong people" enabling/empowering/enforcing statist/corporatism will never tolerate discussion, let alone debate, of what IS fiscally sound. "Not simply to elect the right people" is not to say that electing the right people doesn't matter.

I do not believe that the solution to our problem is simply to elect the right people. The important thing is to establish a political climate of opinion which will make it politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing. Unless it is politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing, the right people will not do the right thing either, or if they try, they will shortly be out of office. - Milton Friedman

Establish a political climate of opinion to make it politically profitable for everyone to do the right thing. And Alinsky's political climate of opinion makes/keeps it politically profitable for everyone to do the wrong thing.

Granted, I've only made it through the first 7 pages of the Michael Lewis "It's the Economy, Dummkopf" Vanity Fair Sept.2011. But so far, the anti-Germanic* prejudice stinks worse than shit. I'm interested in finding how Lewis will conclude his the argument.

"They can probably afford to pay off the debts of their fellow Europeans, but will they actually do it? Are they now Europeans, or are they still Germans?" The German people all know at least one fact about the euro: that before they agreed to trade in their deutsche marks their leaders promised them, explicitly, they would never be required to bail out other countries. Lewis. --The Queen of England can probably afford to pay off the debts of her fellow Europeans, but will she actually do it? Is she now European, or is she still English/British?"

"The only economically plausible scenario is that Germans, with a bit of help from a rapidly shrinking population of solvent European countries, suck it up, work harder, and pay for everyone else." Lewis. -- No. In order to maintain any sovereignty, every nation  must do as Iceland. Suck it up, and tell the Ponzi "investment" bastards to fuck off. Own up to your own debt without accepting the imposition of fraud from globalist "investors".

That was what the currency union always implied: entire peoples had to change their ways of life. Conceived as a tool for integrating Germany into Europe, and preventing Germans from dominating others, it has become the opposite. For better or for worse, the Germans now own Europe. If the rest of Europe is to continue to enjoy the benefits of what is essentially a German currency, they need to become more German. And so, once again, all sorts of people who would rather not think about what it means to be “German” are compelled to do so.  [It boils down to] personal behavior. -- Lewis.  So the Euro was conceived (by anti-Germans) to be the tool to dominate Germany and prevent Germany from being German? Again, winning the hearts and minds of "the enemy" is shit no matter who "masterminds" the movement.

Mr. Lewis speaks with as much respect for observance of contract law as Obama, which is nothing to brag about. And we're back to changing culture with all the wrong people, for all the wrong reasons.

Frederic Bastiat (184 discussed "Natural and Artificial Organization." 

Excerpts:

Much has been said in our day of inventing a new organization. When a man believes that he has discovered a social organization different from that which results from the ordinary tendencies of human nature, it is quite necessary, in order to obtain acceptance for his invention, to paint the organization he wishes to abolish in the most somber color. Then they are led to condemn the very mainspring of human action — I mean a regard to personal interest, because it has brought about such a state of things. Let us note that man is so organized as to seek enjoyment and avoid suffering. From this source I allow that all social evils take their rise — war, slavery, monopoly, privilege. But from the same source springs all that is good, since the satisfaction of wants and repugnance to suffering are the motives of human action. The business then is to discover whether this incitement to action, by its universality — from individual becoming social — is not in itself a principle of progress. At all events, do the inventors of new organizations not perceive that this principle, inherent in the very nature of man, will follow them into their systems, and that there it will make greater havoc than in our natural organization, in which the interest and unjust pretensions of one are at least restrained by the resistance of all? These writers always make two inadmissible suppositions: the first is that society, such as they conceive it, will be directed by infallible men denuded of their motive of self-interest; and the second is that the masses will allow themselves to be directed by these men. Finally, these system makers appear to give themselves no trouble about the means of execution. How are they to establish their system? How are they to induce all mankind at once to give up the principle upon which they now act — the attraction of enjoyment, and the repugnance to pain? It would be necessary, as Rousseau has said, to change the moral and physical constitution of man. n order to induce men at once to throw aside, as a worn-out garment, the existing social order in which the human race has lived and been developed from the beginning to our day, to adopt an organization of human invention and become docile parts of another mechanism, there are, it seems to me, only two means which can be employed: force, or universal consent. The founder of the new system must have at his disposal a force capable of overcoming all resistance, so that humanity shall be in his hands only as so much melting wax to be molded and fashioned at his pleasure — or he must obtain by persuasion an assent so complete, so exclusive, so blind even, as to render unnecessary the employment of force.


Posted by: maverick muse at August 27, 2011 06:47 AM (lpWVn)

180 Check you neighbor's pool.

Not-so-long story.

There were several of us here until the wee hours of the morning watching a live feed of some jackass with a webcam and a Ustream account. He parked his car ass in Moorhead City so that he could report the full impact of the storm first-hand. Mainly, he focused his camera....for hours...on an old gas station awning and a utility pole.

Yes. We watched video of a gas station awning and a utility pole for hours. Not like, 2 hours, but for something like 5 or 6 hours.

It was too awesome to describe.

Posted by: As If! at August 27, 2011 06:48 AM (piMMO)

181 Posted by: maverick muse at August 27, 2011 10:47 AM (lpWVn)

Have you ever just typed a two sentence response?

Posted by: Tami at August 27, 2011 06:48 AM (X6akg)

182 191, LOL

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 27, 2011 06:49 AM (ZDUD4)

183 @186: Ma, like I said - Europe comes loaded with an awful lot of bad history. The weaker nations suffered at the hands of the stronger, and they resent that to this day. That is not the fault of any one individual. Let's put it this way: if I had been stationed in Germany rather than Korea, and met a cute nice German gal that loved me, would I have married her and loved her? Of course.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 06:50 AM (niZvt)

184

Keep updinging! 

Posted by: Kratos


Is that anything like "punching up"?

Posted by: As If! at August 27, 2011 06:50 AM (piMMO)

185 Yes. We watched video of a gas station awning and a utility pole for hours. Not like, 2 hours, but for something like 5 or 6 hours.

It was too awesome to describe.

When will Shep be reporting it?  I've got Fox on now.

Posted by: jwb7605 at August 27, 2011 06:50 AM (Qxe/p)

186 Posted by: maverick muse at August 27, 2011 10:47 AM (lpWVn)

I don't want to be that well-read.

Posted by: As If! at August 27, 2011 06:52 AM (piMMO)

187
You love SCOAMFOTUS
I know, and you can have him

      - Moron-ku!

Posted by: K~Bob at August 27, 2011 06:52 AM (9b6FB)

188 191, I don't know about you, but when I see a post that's been cut and pasted, from something else and it exceeds 2 or 3 paragraphs. I'm not reading it. I look at this as conversation. When you delve into soliloquies, I pick up my drink and move to a different table.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 27, 2011 06:53 AM (ZDUD4)

189 Posted by: Tami at August 27, 2011 10:48 AM (X6akg)

Yep. And you didn't read it, either.

Posted by: maverick muse at August 27, 2011 06:53 AM (lpWVn)

190 200 Fish --

Aren't Liberals one of the species you're allowed to use crossbows on?

Posted by: jwb7605 at August 27, 2011 06:55 AM (Qxe/p)

191 "...so much melting wax to be molded and fashioned at his pleasure" Go on...

Posted by: Barney Frank at August 27, 2011 06:55 AM (niZvt)

192 Posted by: As If! at August 27, 2011 10:52 AM (piMMO)

It was too awesome to describe.

Posted by: maverick muse at August 27, 2011 06:56 AM (lpWVn)

193 My advanced knowledge of Germans provide that Germans are either VERY manly, or VERY effeminate. They also like to camp and obscure their kitchen appliances. Not gonna walk those assumptions back any time soon.

Posted by: emaugust at August 27, 2011 06:57 AM (E8wmM)

194 When will Shep be reporting it? I've got Fox on now. Posted by: jwb7605 at August 27, 2011 10:50 AM He was on earlier, like around 8am. I had to turn it off. I hate that guy.

Posted by: huerfano at August 27, 2011 06:58 AM (kD+se)

195 Moravian as opposed to Bohemian. Heh.

Posted by: texette at August 27, 2011 06:59 AM (beZqk)

196 At least we don't have the kind of cut&paste wars they have over at Fried Repubic.

Damn, they get old.

Posted by: K~Bob at August 27, 2011 06:59 AM (9b6FB)

197 When will Shep be reporting it?  I've got Fox on now.

Possibly, somewhere into about the 3rd hour CNN got wind of the feed and aired a clip.

The awning and the pole were, of course, boring as hell. The entertainment came frem the fact that, 1. the guy was clearly stoned (and stupid) and 2. his buzz wore off just in time for the bad bands to start rolling through so 3. he was scared shitless.

We witnessed the entire breadth of humanity throughout the night. At one point he said, and I'm not exaggerating here, The atmosphere is full of weather.

He was, at first, timid. Then, as his viewer count went up he became increasingly full of shit and then got really, really cocky. That was about the time the real winds started hitting him.

I'm not kidding. It was friggin awesome!


Posted by: As If! at August 27, 2011 06:59 AM (piMMO)

198 had to turn it off. I hate that guy.

Posted by: huerfano at August 27, 2011 10:58 AM (kD+se)


Huerfano, you would have had fun if you'd been watching hm with the morons.

GGE start analogizing to the "atmosphere" statement i.e., The atmosphere in this restaurant is full of ambiance.

We were clearly punch drunk.

Posted by: As If! at August 27, 2011 07:05 AM (piMMO)

199 My advanced knowledge of Germans provide that Germans are either VERY manly, or VERY effeminate. They also like to camp and obscure their kitchen appliances. Not gonna walk those assumptions back any time soon. ALSO, as a 3d generation American Czech (Bohemian) - to the best of my knowledge, aren't I supposed to be worried about hating on the slav's? My Grandma has a lot against Slovaks, never heard much about Germans.

Posted by: emaugust at August 27, 2011 07:05 AM (E8wmM)

200    202

Go on...CoolCzech

obtain by persuasion an assent so complete, so exclusive, so blind even, as to render unnecessary the employment of force.

Higher revisionist education produces a nuanced ignorance.

The important thing is to establish a political climate of opinion which will make it politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing.

Who else recalls the braggarts here crowing with pride for being so "smart" to participate in the Cash for Clunkers tax funded scam?

 Â“But I could never do this,” he said. “It would be illoyal!”



Posted by: maverick muse at August 27, 2011 07:08 AM (lpWVn)

201 208 Moravian as opposed to Bohemian. Heh. Posted by: texette at August 27, 2011 10:59 AM (beZqk) Exactly. You don't say "Bohemia" in Czech. The word for Bohemia is "Cechy," which is derived from "Cech," the Czech way to say Czech. I guess the best way to translate it would be "the Czech Places" or something like that. So the Czechs in Moravia take umbrage on being called "Czech," to a limited degree anyway.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 07:09 AM (niZvt)

202  To get around pay restraints in the calendar year the Greek government simply paid employees a 13th and even 14th monthly salary—months that didnÂ’t exist.

Obama will invert that to taxing Americans the 13th and even 14th nonexistent months during which time "our" $tupid $pending will continue mounting unprecedented insane heights of folly.

Posted by: maverick muse at August 27, 2011 07:14 AM (lpWVn)

203 Cool Czech is correct that Germans have quite the reputation in Eastern Europe. Here are some other traditional German stereotypes (collected from Russians): 1. OCD housekeepers 2. stingy It's pretty hard to argue with those two stereotypes. Of course, in Eastern and Central Europe, Russians also have PR problems (i.e., the thieving rapist image).

Posted by: Amy P at August 27, 2011 07:51 AM (aJjEr)

204 By the way, I think that Germans' focus on saving money has got to be way, way older than the Weimar Republic.

Posted by: Amy P at August 27, 2011 07:53 AM (aJjEr)

205 "Being a German I just love how  Chi-Town Jerry and everybody else here just knows how Germans really are. What a bunch of prententious bullshit."

Being an American who is the grandson of German immigrants, I say that Chi-Town Jerry has Germans pegged exactly right. They are the kind of people who obsess over whether "anal-retentive" should be spelled with a hyphen.

Posted by: Brown Line at August 27, 2011 08:03 AM (tY0t3)

206 The German habit of saving is really no different from that of Americans before the welfare state and the insane policy of encouraging people to invest in a house rather than live in it. And the Great Depression and the German inflation caused by the war debts is not a cause of German habit of saving. Inflation discourages savings. It is better to say that German culture of saving, order, and rules survived the Great Inflation and Great Depression.

Posted by: Federale at August 27, 2011 08:11 AM (7xqyd)

207 Amy and Federale are right: German familial economy was an ancient trait when the Romans praised them for it. And it's notional: in conflict, it hasn't served them all that well.

A little somethin-somethin to lodge in the back of your mind: Germans don't have as much national identity as we project on them. Their "state" governments have a lot of power, and they tend to blame all-Germany problems on their other tribes. When a war goes badly, it's always those damn Prussians who dragged the gentle Schwabians into it. And the Bavarians are hillbillies.

Don't blame me. I'm Pomeranian. With a lick of Brandenburger.

Posted by: comatus at August 27, 2011 08:38 AM (W5ilH)

208 Of course, in Eastern and Central Europe, Russians also have PR problems (i.e., the thieving rapist image). Posted by: Amy P at August 27, 2011 11:51 AM (aJjEr) ...you forgot the Alcoholic part.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 27, 2011 08:47 AM (niZvt)

209 "(Perhaps the only advantage to the German financial system of having no Jews.)"


Posted by: maverick muse at August 27, 2011 09:14 AM (lpWVn)

210 Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at August 27, 2011 11:47 AM (pV6cO)

211 I have been quite impressive with your posts, keep up the great work.

Posted by: God, No! AudioBook at August 27, 2011 04:32 PM (K7myj)

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