1 Interesting post over at Volokh re Wisconsin's 3/5th quorum requirement.  Apparently, it is not needed for everything that has a financial impact and in fact has been previously determined to not be required for bills that pertain to collective bargaining rights.  The author says that WI can pass the most controversial parts of the budget bill without the Dems in the room.

2 O/T - Beck is listing nine FBI arrests last September of Chicago SEIU thugs with ties to terrorists.  No charges by our DoJ, of course.

3 I read somewhere yesterday that a private WI citizen has filed for a Writ of Mandamus to compel his fleebagger to do his job and go to work.  Did anyone else see that?

4 From the WI State Journal: Officials find ammo outside the Capitol building

"Dozens of rounds of live ammunition were found outside the Capitol Thursday morning, law enforcement officials said.

Dane County deputies found 11 rounds near the State Street entrance Thursday morning, UW-Madison Police Chief Susan Riseling said. Twenty-nine rounds were found near the King Street entrance, and one round was found near the North Hamilton Street entrance, Riseling said."

5 The article says that it is suspected that the Fleebaggers are in fact returning to the state, periodically, for errands or just to visit their mistresses and/or gay prostitutes. That means -- if you see something, say something.

Its 10pm.  Do you know where your Fleebagging Senators are?

And isn't this admonition fascist...or something?  How dare that the citizens of WI expect their elected officials to actually perform the duties of their office!?

6 Writ of mandamus suit. 

7 You need a brighter outlook, Ace.  Even if this Schultz flips because of the union money backing him, he'll almost certainly be ejected from the caucus.  And even still, they'd have to flip two more senators - almost all of whom have experienced the unions' special brand of tender loving care over the past few weeks.  Nobody else will flip.

Walker wins by waiting.  We have an impatient news cycle.  Sooner or later Gaddafi will die, or Charlie Sheen will be involved in a police chase, or some Islamic nutjobs will take a shot at our troops again.  Wisconsin will be a footnote as the bill sails through - just as it did in Ohio this morning.

8 7 You need a brighter outlook, Ace.

Perhaps auditing a class at Northwestern would help ace's mood. 

9 The GOPers always seem to strive for the image of reasonableness; Dems have no such moral compunction.
 
Leg irons and chain gangs would be nice for this crew. They could be assigned to filling potholes.

10 On one of the Wisconsin blogs, there was intimation that the walk-out was primarily to buy time for many municipal and county labor agreements to be signed. Also, that there was collusion between State Senator Miller and the mayor of Madison to get the Secretary of State to stall the bill being published [didn't work].

Sorry, I can't seem to find the links....

11 Please, stand fast, WI Republicans. The $100 per day fine was good for absence, but now hike it to $500 per day. Walker may have to eventually go nuclear in the end and do something like pass the collective bargaining limitation separately, or perhaps be creative in defining a quorum.

12
For many jobs, failure to appear for work for a set period of time - three days for some, up to two weeks for others - means that you've abandoned your job and can be replaced. Doesn't the Wisconsin Senate have some standard by which the fleebaggers can be held to have abandoned their offices? In which case, they can be held to have resigned, and a special election could then be held to replace them. Just wonderin' ...

13 yeah, and a hundred lashes with a wet noodle

14 I still say they should have went ahead and passed the non-budget related stuff like the union stuff and the voter ID.

It tells me that they are likely to fold, no matter what the Governor does.

15 a unionized noodle, of course

16 Posted by: Museisluse at March 03, 2011 05:28 PM (u/Nbu)

I posted this early this morning....is this what you're talking about?


Government e-mails reveal plot to stall budget repair bill

Madison Mayor tried to get bill stalled while he signed new contracts

WITI-TV, MADISON —

Before protesters stormed the capitol, the Mayor of the City of Madison tried to pull a fast one. The Governor's budget repair bill was on the fast track, and Madison Mayor Dave Ciesliewicz was racing against the clock to pass new union contracts first.

E-mails obtained by the FOX6 Investigators show that the mayor enlisted the help of State Senator Mark Miller. They both tried to convince the Secretary of State to hold up the bill by taking the maximum 10 days allowed by law before publishing the bill.

They were trying to buy some time so they could ratify new contracts to protect workers from benefit cuts. Citizens for Responsible Government Rep. Chris Kliesmet says, "This suggests, and this is a harsh word, collusion. There is collusion between some politicians and public sector employee unions. Period."

Ya think?

More at http://tinyurl.com/4j9gjb6  (including the e-mails)

17 So much for the Jesus thingy, now we are into the Old Testament kind of love. I like it. Why do I forsee a lot of whinning demonazis (owned and operated by the NEA) in the near future?

18 Why not just threaten to take away their Green Bay Packers ownership certificates?

19 Interesting post over at Volokh re Wisconsin's 3/5th quorum requirement. This may be the only route that is feasible. We can play the "procedure" game as well as the Demotards.

20 freaking unclosed italics tag

21 Can't they settle this over a few bottles of Shotz?

22

The $100 per day fine was good for absence, but now hike it to $500 per day.

Give the unions whatever they want, then make the fines cover the expense.

23 How many other states have shared revenue systems?

24  SoS Doug LaFollette is the only dem left in state office. His name here is like Kennedy in Mass., but without the crazy. He was asked to put off publishing the lae for the full ten days to allow unions time to sigh contracts before the bill went into effect. He refused. I t is believed now that the Illinois bit was planned to give unions time to rush negotiations and get favorable deals signed. They have emails between Madison's mayor and Senate minority leader Miller (pbuh) to this effect. Also, many public employees are filing for retirement to beat the law.

25

7 We have an impatient news cycle.  Sooner or later . . . some Islamic nutjobs will take a shot at our troops again.

That didn't make a hit in the MBM the first time.

26

9 Leg irons and chain gangs would be nice for this crew. They could be assigned to filling potholes.

Allah linked to an article on HotAir saying that the damages to the Capitol total $7.5 million.

Make the Dems clean it up, Cool Hand Luke style.

27 Who should get the bill?

28 10 On one of the Wisconsin blogs, there was intimation that the walk-out was primarily to buy time for many municipal and county labor agreements to be signed. Also, that there was collusion between State Senator Miller and the mayor of Madison to get the Secretary of State to stall the bill being published [didn't work].

Sorry, I can't seem to find the links....

Posted by: Museisluse at March 03, 2011 05:28 PM (u/Nbu)

--There was a front page post on this in The Corner at NRO.

29 I think the repubs are now making a mistake.  It was fine to say come back and vote to make themselves look reasonable.  But now is the time to stop messing around, separate the collective bargaining from the bill, vote it in and move on.  Stop pussyfooting with these idiots.  If it was the dem side it already would have been done, why are repubs always going the nicey nice way?

30

I assumed when this began that this would be a win. Now I'm not sure. While the Democrats offer what are almost certainly fake concessions, one Republican is sounding like he's ready, willing, and eager to cave:

Defeat from the jaws of victory, etc. etc.  I literally just started to feel sick to my stomach.  I picked the wrong lifetime to quit smoking cigarettes, which I did on February 2nd.

31 Sorry, I can't seem to find the links....

News video over at HA.

32 Who's the Republican going wobbly?

33

On one of the Wisconsin blogs, there was intimation that the walk-out was primarily to buy time for many municipal and county labor agreements to be signed.

One of the local talk show hosts has had a WI fleebagger named Sweeney on his show since the Dems left IL. He said that part of their rationale for leaving was to buy time, expecting some blockbuster revelation about Gov. Walker that would turn public opinion against him and sink him. You know, like he's beholden to the Koch Bros. (who actually are supporting the WI state workers' nests via their pension funds), or that really damaging prank call, or...um...uhh...

34

These fucking fucking fucking fucks.  This is fucking serious shit.  The unions win even a little bit in Wisconsin, then theyre going to up the ante and up the violence everyfuckingwhere else.

You do not treat threats of physical bodily harm and the interruption of our republican form of government with kid gloves.  You kill the fuckers and start over.

35 FUCK! I'm seriously feeling nauseous

36 Hang tough, guys.  Walker seems to be handling this well and it sounds like the numbers (and law, fwiw) are in our favor. 

Indiana, on the other hand, seems headed for a really protracted stalemate. 

37 Ace, schultz has been wimping and whining since day ONE of the protests. No other Republicans start flinching. You should know this.

38 1 Interesting post over at Volokh re Wisconsin's 3/5th quorum requirement.  Apparently, it is not needed for everything that has a financial impact and in fact has been previously determined to not be required for bills that pertain to collective bargaining rights.  The author says that WI can pass the most controversial parts of the budget bill without the Dems in the room.     Then why in the heck aren't they doing it!!!!!  Either that or Walker needs to split the bill in 2 and let the chips fall.

39 Here is Shultz's voting record:
http://tinyurl.com/47yloyq


As for the others, I don't think they will cave. Gov. Walker has a history of standing for his believes and I believe he's truly committed to this. As for the lawmakers, they've been mobbed, verbally attacked, intimidated in other ways and only one of them is threatening to cave. This is progress.

40

As for the lawmakers, they've been mobbed, verbally attacked, intimidated in other ways and only one of them is threatening to cave. This is progress.

I'm seeing it your way also. The news of the WI senators voting to hold the Dems in contempt reassures me that they aren't backing down, instead they're holding the line. Which is exactly what the fleebaggers and their Union Bosses did not expect. They have bussed in protestors from far afield, they have commissioned bogus polls, they have physically intimidated Republican Senators, they have initiated recall petitions against Republican Senators - and what do they get for their trouble? A contempt citation and the requirement that they can't get paid unless they show up in person to get their check. This was not in the script.

41 #1

I have written about that about 10 times. 

They can cut out the union shit and pass it with out the 20th vote.

They can redistrict, gerrymander the bastards out of their seats.

They can pass voter ID.

They can pass concealed carry.

The Republicans need to get their shit together and GET TO WORK!

42 Hang tough, Ace. Things here look better than they seem. The recall threat actually favor the Pubs. Dems need 3, only one is in anything near a swing district. The three dems filed on so far are in districts that are even or slightly Pub., so it's not as easy as the dems claim. Picking up one, which is very doable, gives us the 20 for quoram.  Sen. Schultz is a weak pussy who could face recall by his own party if he stabs us in the back. Lay-offs will start going out tomorrow. Walker is showing how you boil a frog.

43 Walker just announced press conference at 6pm ct.

44 Shouldn't the Teachers Assistant Association at UWMadison who appointed themselves in charge and were running things pay for this?  They are on video saying they are in charge.

45 1, 2, 2 and a half... don't make us hold you in contempt...

1, 2, 2 and a half... we'll make you pay your own expenses...

1, 2, 2 and a half... don't MAKE me count to 3...

1, 2, 2 and a half...

46 I want to know where the fuck the outrage is? When Democrats win elections they say "I Won" and then make up rules and steamroller the opposition. When Republicans win, the Democrats decide they don't want to play anymore and run and hide. In the Democrats mind when they win, they win. When they lose, they call in the thugs and still win. Where the fuck are the American people in screaming bloody murder? Is this what they call a democracy? What it is is a thogocracy. And I'll answer my first question. There is no outrage because the media has decided that there won't be any outrage by not covering the story or minimally covering it. Just imagine if the roles were reversed and it was Republicans pulling this kind of shit. The media would have lynch mobs parked outside the hotels where they were hiding. This fucking country is lost when the media throws in with the thugs.

47 What ever happened to the idea of recalling some of these punks? I heard something about that once, a week or so again, but nothing seems to have come of it.

48 Pagan, recalls proceding against 3 dems at this time. The dems are trying to recall 8 repubs, but they are in mostly strong R distrcts, so that is more pissing in the wind. Dems have got better chances at getting booted.

49 I got pretty annoyed when I discovered the Wisconsin Senate was letting some of the fleabaggers participate in committee business over the telephone.

50 WRT to the 3/5 requirement. I wondered if using this to pass the legislation might mean it would be harder to repeal.