1 That seems a little bit mean. They've been doing the work via teleconference.

2 First

3

They shouldn't be paid at all.

But this is a good start. Now pass a ton of stuff that's not budget related that would piss the Dims off

4 IOW, they'll be like the unions and give them handfuls of cash.

5 I have read that recommendation on these AoS pages.

6 Start garnishing their wages for being all around pains in the ass.

7 Vacate their seats and hold special elections.

Failing that, this'll do.

8 Maybe Lazich could loan Mitch Daniels some cajones.

9 "I won't extend courtesies for unethical behavior," Lazich told Erpenbach.

Mary Lazich looks like some future little-old-lady who does a knitting column on NPR. Then lava comes out of her mouth.

HA!

10 That's totally inappropriate. It's lewd, vesivius, salacious, outrageous!

11 Hey, if I don't show up for work, I don't get paid at all.  This sounds very reasonable to me.

12

"I won't extend courtesies for unethical behavior,"

THIS!  If only the other Rs would figure this out.

13 "281 I doubt the telephonic conferencing is legal.  For all they know some crack whore has a knife to the politician's throat forcing him to vote the way he is voting.  Or it could be Rich Little doing an impersonation... which amounts to much the same thing.

Posted by: crack whore union 404 at February 22, 2011 07:25 PM (JKX4x)"

this was on the other Wisconsin thread, thought it was worth importing to this one.

14

If this Dem Erpenbach wants his vote to count by phone, then he must also let it count as the 20th senator for the budget vote (giving them the quorum they need).  No picking and choosing when he does/doesn't participate via phone.

15 Erpenbach's name was not called as the clerk took the roll, but he repeatedly yelled, "No!" over the speakerphone. The committee's three Republicans voted for the bill.

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Sorry, Wrong Number.

16 I'd have let him vote, proclaimed a quorum as being present and proceeded to pass the original contested bill. If anyone complained, refer to the roll-call of the previous vote as evidence that the Dem member was there. After all, you're either THERE or you ain't...

17

I doubt the telephonic conferencing is legal.

In the excerpt it says: "Senators routinely participate in committee meetings by phone and are allowed to debate, offer amendments and vote on measures."

 

 

18 what a monkey circus. Yeah, "um, we're kinda sorta fillibustering but can we still play?" The republicans, "I guess so, cause you'd do the same thing for us, right.." the fleebagger, "dude, I would have your family killed if you stood in my way for even a second if the tables were reversed." the republicans "awww, at least we preserved collegiality. You can do whatever you like." **"Do you want the headline to be, 'Republicans won't let Democrats vote,' even though we've allowed that many, many times?" Erpenbach said.** Answer: "Yes. I am sure the public's going to get right on getting upset over that."

19 Erpenbach is a completed ass. Four years ago he held hearings on whether to curtain abortion rights in Wisconsin, figuring that he could get it voted down in short order. RTL showed up on force, including me, to be heard, and the hearings went well over two days. He spend the entire time sneering at us and telling us how hopeless our chances were. He was correct in his assessment of his ability to vote down the bill, but now that the shoe is on the other foot? He hightails it to Illinois. Hope he skimmed enough off the past couple years to buy a nice place down there. We would rather not have him back.

20 Can they send a driver to the Capitol in their short bus to pick up checks?

21 Posted by: Mayday at February 22, 2011 07:32 PM (TRgli)

is this their primary employment or do they do this part time?

22 I doubt the telephonic conferencing is legal.  For all they know some crack whore has a knife to the politician's throat forcing him to vote the way he is voting.  Or it could be Rich Little doing an impersonation... which amounts to much the same thing.

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It also says on some thread around here that it IS legal in Wisconsin.

^{/But that doesn't mean the crack whore scenario is invalid.}

23 Good! Fuck that weasel cocksucker erpenbach and the rest of those democrat assmunchers. You want a vote, asshole? Get back to Wisconsin.

24 No no no! What was that? I didn't catch that. Could you repeat it. We can't hear you. Must be a bad connection. Ha ha ha.

25 When my kids behaved like the democrats are behaving, I used to just ignore them. Drove them crazy

26 What do they care, they're still gettin' union loot aren't they?
You think they work for the peoples? Once they're in they got all kinds of shit to sell besides their damn votes.

27 Hmmm..... this part seems kinda illegal to me:

People who moved to their residence less than 28 days before the election from within Wisconsin could vote at their previous polling place. If the people moved to Wisconsin from another state within the previous 28 days, they could vote for presidential candidates but not local and state candidates.

really?  so if you move there within 28 days, you can't vote for anyone in the state at all?

28 Can they send a driver to the Capitol in their short bus to pick up checks?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2011 07:33 PM

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The law sez they have to do it in person, collecting it from the Majority Leader.

29 They ought to forget that teleconference stuff.  These people are paid a salary to do their job.  Their job is to attend legislature and committee meetings.  I don't care what party they belong to, if they are absent they don't get a vote. What do you suppose would happen to those in the private sector if they tried to pull something like this?  These people have the idea that they are special when they aren't.  They need to understand they work for us, not vice versa.

30 It's a damn shame that Gordon Hintz isn't on any committees.

31 Ah, hardball. Remember when Republicans knew how to play? I don't either.

O/T I have Road Warrior playing streaming NetFlix in the background. I may never have to leave my chair!

32 Erpenbach's name was not called as the clerk took the roll, but he repeatedly yelled, "No!" over the speakerphone. The committee's three Republicans voted for the bill.

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Sorry, Wrong Number.

Posted by: arhooley at February 22, 2011 07:32 PM (D45hw)

What is the number for the floor of the WI assembly? I might make a call there to vote on the quorum call. Hey, as far as they know, I'm one of those dang Democratic guys, right?

33 Hardball ha? The Republicans need to throw a few high and hard. Make the Dems move their feet. Where is Bob Gibson when ya need him.

34

I doubt the telephonic conferencing is legal.

In the excerpt it says: "Senators routinely participate in committee meetings by phone and are allowed to debate, offer amendments and vote on measures."

 

 

Posted by: Mayday at February 22, 2011 07:32 PM (TRgli)

So? People routinely drive over the limit on the interstates. Its still not legal.

35 What a day, I find out yet again that Sarah Palin has a bigger set than mitch daniels and I find out legislators can vote by phone.

Ok, is this going on in the house and the senate of the United States of America but we don't know about it cause it has never come up and no one thought to ask?

36 When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

37 What is the number for the floor of the WI assembly?

1-800-FUK DEMS

38

Gee, the revolution has started and guess who the cowardly run-aways are?

Impeachment. The bastards are law-breaking cowards who can't handle democracy. Good luck serving the people in your Illinois whorehouses.

As Barry says, "Elections have consequences."

39 In the excerpt it says: "Senators routinely participate in committee meetings by phone and are allowed to debate, offer amendments and vote on measures."

a lot of stuff is "legal" only because it's never been challenged before.  maybe this is one of those things.  now may be the time to challenge it.

40 Democrats left the state Thursday to stop a budget-repair bill by GOP Gov. Scott Walker that would take away most union rights from local, state and school employees. Twenty of 33 senators must be present to vote on spending bills, but Republicans hold just 19 seats.

Most of the state media outlets seem to refer to it as something like, "The Republican attack on unions". I guess this outlet didn't get the memo.

41 Wisconsin Republicans are trying to lure Senate Democrats back to the state capital by moving ahead with a controversial bill that would require voters to show photo ID before casting a ballot. Now that's hardball

42 Can they send a driver to the Capitol in their short bus to pick up checks?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2011 07:33 PM (UOM4

LOL, that reminds me of an idiot we had who called in after a snow and said he couldn't make it in because of snow.

He drove in to the office though and picked up his check. Someone called his boss and ratted him out. He wondered the next day why he had been fired.

43 Uh I think the link at the beginning needs to be fixed.  Part of Ace's first sentence is caught in the url.

44 41 Wisconsin Republicans are trying to lure Senate Democrats back to the state capital by moving ahead with a controversial bill that would require voters to show photo ID before casting a ballot.

Now that's hardball

Next up: a divisive measure that would make cheese the official food of Wisconsin!  Maybe that will work

45 35 What a day, I find out yet again that Sarah Palin has a bigger set than mitch daniels and I find out legislators can vote by phone.

Ok, is this going on in the house and the senate of the United States of America but we don't know about it cause it has never come up and no one thought to ask?

Posted by: curious at February 22, 2011 07:38 PM (p302b)

curious, let me make you a nice vodka martini, dry, with extra olives. 

46

So? People routinely drive over the limit on the interstates. Its still not legal.

I think what the excerpt is saying is that in normal times it is not uncommon for legislators that are traveling (for legitimate business/personal reasons) to participate (and vote) via phone.  This seems reasonable to me.  Happens in business all the time.  So it does not appear to be illegal.

But Mary Lazich (committee chairman) is right in disallowing it now because the Dem is not away for a legitimate reason; he's left the state for the explicit purpose of not voting.

47 Wisconsin Republicans are trying to lure Senate Democrats back to the state capital by--

I thought it was going to end with "promising free gerbils."

48

*Disclaimer: I'm not siding with the WI retards.  I just don't like speed limit laws.  Sue me.

Posted by: Papa Editor at February 22, 2011 07:41 PM (Zs83Q)

I would, but I can't catch you with all that fast driving.

49 Unions fund the Dems. Lax voter ID laws facilitate voter fraud by Dems.

Hit 'em where it hurts.

50 We phone it in.

51 17

I doubt the telephonic conferencing is legal.

In the excerpt it says: "Senators routinely participate in committee meetings by phone and are allowed to debate, offer amendments and vote on measures."

 

 

Posted by: Mayday at February 22, 2011 07:32 PM (TRgli)

I routinely skin and roast hobos, not really sure that makes it "legal".

52 28 Hmmm..... this part seems kinda illegal to me:

People who moved to their residence less than 28 days before the election from within Wisconsin could vote at their previous polling place. If the people moved to Wisconsin from another state within the previous 28 days, they could vote for presidential candidates but not local and state candidates.

really?  so if you move there within 28 days, you can't vote for anyone in the state at all?

Posted by: chemjeff at February 22, 2011 07:35 PM (czcue)

 

I think that quite a few states have a residency requirement that you must live there for a certain amount of time before voting.  A month sounds standard.

53 Wait a fucking minute.  Student ID's can vote. So the 20% of WU out of state, are now residents?

WTF?  That's OK they vote democrat!

54 44 41 Wisconsin Republicans are trying to lure Senate Democrats back to the state capital by moving ahead with a controversial bill that would require voters to show photo ID before casting a ballot.

Now that's hardball

Next up: a divisive measure that would make cheese the official food of Wisconsin!  Maybe that will work

Posted by: chemjeff at February 22, 2011 07:41 PM (czcue)

After that, making the Green Bay Packers the official state team.

55 He wondered the next day why he had been fired.
Posted by: Vic at February 22, 2011 07:39 PM

Was he an ex-civil servant?

56 WTF - Wisconsin Thieving/Teleconferencing Fleebaggers/Fugatives

/Thanks to whomever I stole it from this morning. 

57 Happy to read that [nothing] "is being rescinded".

58 Maybe ERPENBACH should have faxed IN a DOCTORS note and he MAYBE could vote.

59 42 Can they send a driver to the Capitol in their short bus to pick up checks?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2011 07:33 PM (UOM4

LOL, that reminds me of an idiot we had who called in after a snow and said he couldn't make it in because of snow.

He drove in to the office though and picked up his check. Someone called his boss and ratted him out. He wondered the next day why he had been fired.

Posted by: Vic at February 22, 2011 07:39 PM (M9Ie6)

I'll never forget working at a big Atlanta ad agency during a major snow storm.  I was all settled in with booze and hot chocolate, when the owner of the agency called and asked if he could pick me up in his four-wheel drive Jeep.  I ended up going in, manning the switchboard (which I barely knew how to do), but had a blast with the owner, creative director, and the creative dept. female who was screwing the owner.  We ended up doing shots and having a small party.

Good damn times.

60

I think that quite a few states have a residency requirement that you must live there for a certain amount of time before voting.  A month sounds standard.

Posted by: buzzion at February 22, 2011 07:44 PM (oVQFe)

Read up on the Border Ruffians in the Bleeding Kansas days for why this is a good idea.

61 Wait a fucking minute.  Student ID's can vote. So the 20% of WU out of state, are now residents?

WTF?

I recall this was some sort of non-issue for McLame in 2008.

62

I think that quite a few states have a residency requirement that you must live there for a certain amount of time before voting.  A month sounds standard.

You don't even have to live-live there to vote and even become mayor!

63 If he's allowed to vote in committee, than he must be present.  If all it takes to be present is a phone call (phoning it in); then transfer his call to the Senate floor.  Pick up the transfer, ask "are you there?", when he answers "yes"; then announce the quorum and make the vote.

64 We on a secret mission for der Obamafuhrer. We can't tell you where we are at or we'd have to kill you. This is a very important mission. So we have to phone it in. We'll tell you which strip club to send our checks to.

65 On the issue of whether it is or is not legal to vote by telephone:  I see no evidence that it's illegal.  If it is illegal, then both the D's and the R's have routinely been allowing illegal votes.  YMMV.

66 Erpenbach's name was not called as the clerk took the roll, but he repeatedly yelled, "No!" over the speakerphone.

Honey Badgerette Sen. Mary Lazich (R-New Berlin) don't give a shit.

67 Was he an ex-civil servant?

Posted by: arhooley at February 22, 2011 07:44 PM (D45hw)

No but he now works for a union outfit which is just about as bad.

68

Maybe ERPENBACH should have faxed IN a DOCTORS note and he MAYBE could vote.

Let's not give them any ideas.  Lord knows they won't have trouble finding a Dr to fake a note for him.

69 On the issue of whether it is or is not legal to vote by telephone:  I see no evidence that it's illegal.  If it is illegal, then both the D's and the R's have routinely been allowing illegal votes.  YMMV.

Posted by: Mayday at February 22, 2011 07:47 PM (TRgli)

The concept of a quorum kind of goes against that. Legislators are supposed to be present to do business.

70 Where's the hat tip, like in the sidebar?

No one puts Miss 80s Baby in a corner!

71 Voters should be able phone it in.

72 Ha!  This is a good play by the Republicans.  But I bet the Dem obstructionist fleebaggers will get paid one way or the other by their union masters or some other Opie iWon Kadopie minion.  I hope someone can follow the money.

73 Erpenbach's name was not called as the clerk took the roll, but he repeatedly yelled, "No!" over the speakerphone. The committee's three Republicans voted for the bill.


FOX LIES!!!  FOX LIES!!!

74

Old Chinese Proverb

No workie no money.

75 I think the WI Republicans are going about this all wrong.  The issue is that the Democrats have no reason to go back (paychecks?  piffle.  The Unions will subsidize them, if necessary).

So bring up something in committee that not all of the Republicans are for.  Something close that will pass without a Democrat, but wouldn't if one was present.  Then refuse to let them vote via phone.

If they do that enough, the Democrats will come running back because they won't have much of a choice:  Let it pass and have the issue come up in a primary/general, or go back to the capitol and be forced to count for quorum.

76 I just realized what "the bill" in Lazich's committee is about. Oh wow. Bacon pudding. But there's still a question whether the legislature will vote on it.

77

In other Walker news:

Tax raises now require a SUPERmajority

78 Did anyone notice the fleebagger's comment about how he couldn't see "the Soviet Union" from his window?

Do you think he really missed the fall of the Soviet Union, or is this wishful thinking on the part of a communist?

I wonder why he hates Tina Fey so much anyway.

79 OT: need post on him - Col. West brings it to a CAIR idiot: http://tinyurl.com/4bu2y5f

80 Hey, we've been phoning it in for years and no one cared. Now give us what we want or I will fart in your general direction.

81 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at February 22, 2011 07:54 PM

I think you're overthinking it, I think.

Pass boatloads of conservative legislation while you can.

^{/ and put tacks on the Democrats' chairs}

82 If they do that enough, the Democrats will come running back because they won't have much of a choice:  Let it pass and have the issue come up in a primary/general, or go back to the capitol and be forced to count for quorum.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at February 22, 2011 07:54 PM (8y9MW)

If this is a quorum issue, no business of any kind can happen without having a quorum.

83 Surely, there's a funny 'Go-to-Meeting' commercial in here somewhere.

84

Didn't someone link how one of the fleebaggers came back to the state over the weekend because they weren't in session so the police can't pick him up unless there is a session?

Couldn't we utilize that?  End the session.  Then the moment one is back in the state call an "emergency" session so the cops can go get him?

85 You don't need a quorum to vote in committee

86 Leeches refusing to go to work, attempting to shut down the government all because their days of sucking at the government teat are coming to and end. It sucks when we not only become Greece, we are actually copying them.

87 83
I haven't been this proud of republicans since the late-great Ronald Reagan fired the law-breaking air traffic controllers.

Posted by: sickinmass at February 22, 2011 07:55 PM (1rflU)

What about when my little pookie stole won the election?

88

Didn't someone link how one of the fleebaggers came back to the state over the weekend because they weren't in session so the police can't pick him up unless there is a session?

Couldn't we utilize that?  End the session.  Then the moment one is back in the state call an "emergency" session so the cops can go get him?

Posted by: buzzion at February 22, 2011 07:58 PM (oVQFe)

Just don't end the session.

89 *cough*  *cough*  *sniff*   I habe a horrible code, and my doctor advised me to stay hobe. Dere seems to be a problem wid direct deposid so please get back to me wid confirmation dat my pay was probtly posted before noon. *hack*

 kthx bai.

90 Erpenbach's name was not called as the clerk took the roll, but he repeatedly yelled, "No!" over the speakerphone.

During her interview with Donald Rumsfeld, Andrea Mitchell kept Erpenbaching the former Secretary of Defense.

91 Picture ID for Democrats is like holy water on vampires.  Do it.  Make everybody show a picture ID.  We had that debate two years ago in Texas and the dims bullshit about how that somehow "disenfranchised" poor voters was patheticly transparent.  They count on fraud to win elections.  Now the Texas Senate is so solidly Republican there can be no doubt it happens. 

92 I ended up going in, manning the switchboard (which I barely knew how to do), but had a blast with the owner, creative director, and the creative dept. female who was screwing the owner.  We ended up doing shots and having a small party.

Jane, if I ever get a job writing porno scripts, I am totally stealing that for a set-up. Of course in my version the two hot drunk chicks will take that opportunity to experiment with bisexuality for everyone's amusement. Sorry.

Ace, regarding per diem, in a lot of states where legislating is not a full-time job involving a separate residence in the capital, the legislators get paid per diem while the session is underway to cover meals and a hotel while they're not at their regular home of record.

93 Senators routinely participate in committee meetings by phone and are allowed to debate, offer amendments and vote on measures. But Honey Badgerette Sen. Mary Lazich (R-New Berlin) don't give a shit.

94 to whatever WI gop legislature reads this site:  Next up: cancel their health insurance if they get it thru the state.

95 I haven't been this proud of republicans since the late-great Ronald Reagan fired the law-breaking air traffic controllers.
Posted by: sickinmass at February 22, 2011 07:55 PM (1rflU)

Restrain your pride. Floor votes have yet to take place. (Defeat, jaws of victory, etc.)

96 Off Topic Alert!

My local gov is begining to wake up to ther fact that the locals are sick of supporting a run-away expense account that has supported them in the past good times.

Could some fellow Moron(s) provide a link to a compelling successful story of empowering lower level local officials to identify wasteful and redundant programs in local government and, this is the key, figure out a way to actually eliminate these programs.

I know I have read about these efforts but I cannot attest to whether these programs actually worked.

This is hot in my town right now. I am frankly, surprised. Locals rule!

97 91

Didn't someone link how one of the fleebaggers came back to the state over the weekend because they weren't in session so the police can't pick him up unless there is a session?

Couldn't we utilize that?  End the session.  Then the moment one is back in the state call an "emergency" session so the cops can go get him?

Posted by: buzzion at February 22, 2011 07:58 PM (oVQFe)

Just don't end the session.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 22, 2011 07:59 PM (z1N6a)

Well no,  then they won't return to the state.  If you end it, you might get one to show up in state.  Let the cops know to be ready and then call an emergency session so you can pick them up.

98 After this past week Wisconsin kids now have several new categories on their "what I don't want to be when I grow up" list.
Or maybe "how I'll end up if I never grow up".

My guess is that the concept of shame, while seeming almost universally practiced, has been erased from the public education consciousness there.

99

In any movie you see where hostages are taken, the first thing SWAT does is cut the electricity, heat/air, etc.  They make it uncomfortable for the hostage takers, and force them to deal with SWAT.

I think in their own way, Walker and Laish are doing this; they are just starting small (paycheck retrival in person & disallowing courtesy votes by phone), and maybe (hopefully) they will escalate if this drags on.  I think they are trying to project a calm, reasonable, in-control image to the wider public, in contrast to the impulsive, unreasonable Dems.  We are frustrated that Walker/GOP aren't escalating quicker, but I think their strategy is right to win over the general public who are less aware of the issues than we are.

100

In other Walker news:

Tax raises now require a SUPERmajority

Posted by: The Q at February 22, 2011 07:54 PM (MYuEC)

Is this guy wanting to be President?  I think he has already delivered 3 or 4 Ninja kicks to McCain's nuts.

101

What about when my Rove's little pookie stole won the election?

Posted by: Michelle at February 22, 2011 07:59 PM (g3OU+)

FIFY

102

"Do you want the headline to be, 'Republicans won't let Democrats vote,' even though we've allowed that many, many times?" Erpenbach said.

They count on cover from their ideological brothers don't they?  Fuck 'em to tears.

103 This is hot in my town right now. I am frankly, surprised. Locals rule!


Posted by: pawn at February 22, 2011 08:03 PM (hlK

Take a paintball gun to a random branch of a local government. Ask everyone what they do. If they can't answer, shoot them once. If they answer in more than 50 words, shoot them twice.

Everyone with paint on is fired. Everyone shot twice is prosecuted.

104 Could some fellow Moron(s) provide a link to a compelling successful story of empowering lower level local officials to identify wasteful and redundant programs in local government and, this is the key, figure out a way to actually eliminate these programs.

I live in Southern California, so can.

But why not challenge your local government to be bold and precedent-setting? Or is that kind of like my sentence above?

105 I think I missed a meme.  if someone wants to explain the honey badger, please do.

106

Is this guy wanting to be President?  I think he has already delivered 3 or 4 Ninja kicks to McCain's nuts.

Posted by: dogfish at February 22, 2011 08:06 PM (N2yhW)

If McCain had any nuts left, he'd be president.

107 108 Click my name.

108 "Do you want the headline to be, 'Republicans won't let Democrats vote,' even though we've allowed that many, many times?" Erpenbach said.

Honey Badgerette Sen. Mary Lazich (R-New Berlin) don't give a shit.

109   if someone wants to explain the honey badger, please do.

First rule of Honey Badger, is don't explain Honey Badger.  Other than that, I don't give a fuck.  Or a shit.

(Where's that fucking cobra that just bit me in the face?)

110 Take a paintball gun to a random branch of a local government. Ask everyone what they do. If they can't answer, shoot them once. If they answer in more than 50 words, shoot them twice.

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In case you're having trouble visualizing, it might look something like this:

http://tinyurl.com/yajydx4

111 "Do you want the headline to be, 'Republicans won't let Democrats vote,' even though we've allowed that many, many times?" Erpenbach said.

Honey Badgerette Sen. Mary Lazich (R-New Berlin) don't give a shit.

Posted by: davidt at February 22, 2011 08:10 PM (9Pzy7)

That's the headlines every election cycle no matter what we do.

112

93 -

Wild Goose chase for sure.

113 108 I think I missed a meme.  if someone wants to explain the honey badger, please do.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 22, 2011 08:07 PM (xdHzq)

Go back to the ACE home page and scroll down about 3/4 of the page ( few days ago) and click The Nasty Honey Badger Story.

The best one is below the fold (the narrator that's a little light in his loafers, not the Tracy Morgan one).

Enjoy.

114 108 I think I missed a meme.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 22, 2011 08:07 PM (xdHzq)

Honey Badger don't give a shit

115 Take a paintball gun to a random branch of a local government. Ask everyone what they do. If they can't answer, shoot them once. If they answer in more than 50 words, shoot them twice.

Everyone with paint on is fired. Everyone shot twice is prosecuted.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 22, 2011 08:07 PM (z1N6a)

Heh.  Me and my buds had a similar theory, but applied to stupid drivers on the road.  Any car with X number of paintball shots to its ass end for being stupid is sent to the automobile penalty box for a week.  Or something like that.

116 The Nasty Honey Badger (Open Thread)

117 >>I live in Southern California, so can. Same way every sentence ends in Southern California, Buenos dias seniorita. Reconquista!

118 108 I think I missed a meme.  if someone wants to explain the honey badger, please do.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 22, 2011 08:07 PM (xdHzq)

I would, except that he don't give a shit.

119 What's my name?

120 121 108 I think I missed a meme.  if someone wants to explain the honey badger, please do.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 22, 2011 08:07 PM (xdHzq)

119 The Nasty Honey Badger (Open Thread)

Posted by: curious at February 22, 2011 08:15 PM (p302b)

121 Next time one of those Dems comes home for the weekend the conservative neighbors need to block the road(s) away from their house, let the air out of tires, something so they cannot just slip away before the session starts back up.

122 Could some fellow Moron(s) provide a link to a compelling successful story of empowering lower level local officials to identify wasteful and redundant programs in local government and, this is the key, figure out a way to actually eliminate these programs. Locals rule! Posted by: pawn

Not sure if she qualifies but Wendy Greuel is a rather odd duck here in Los Angeles. She's a Democrat and the City Controller that regularly issues reports that highlight the fraud, deceit, and mismanagement of the City of Los Angeles.

Just last week she called for the city's Treasurer's Office to be shut down.

If you search the DailyNews website, you should see a bunch of news stories reporting her lonely crusade.

On the other hand, I can't say that her proposals and reports make any headway in the city council or mayor's (spit) office.

123 CenturyLink homepage keeps pushing this Boehner having affairs story but I haven't seen it here or anywhere else. Anyone?

124 Georgia sucks for "state mammal".  The right whale.  Really?  I want the honey badger.  And I want them roaming the back alleys of Atlanta and Savannah.

125 It's not enough. They'll get their paycheck in a week or two. Better to withhold money because they are awol.

126 OT: need post on him - Col. West brings it to a CAIR idiot:
http://tinyurl.com/4bu2y5f
Posted by: gesc at February 22, 2011 07:55 PM (+G2Ts)

CAIR Representative: You're Attacking Islam
Rep. Allen West: In Fairness, Islam Attacked Us First
Posted by Ace at 02:08 PM New Comments Thingy

Congratulations. You got out drawn by the 142nd fastest gun.....in the west:

By about 6 hours.

127 *carefully steps away from honey badger sock*

128 Who's going to pay for their motel and meal bills? Are they going to try to claim that they are an expense? I dare them.

129 Georgia sucks for "state mammal".  The right whale.  Really?  I want the honey badger.  And I want them roaming the back alleys of Atlanta and Savannah.

Posted by: Honey Badgerdoesn't give a shit at February 22, 2011 08:18 PM (UOM4

There are zero right whales in Georgia. How can that be the state mammal?

Why not unicorns?

130 127 CenturyLink homepage keeps pushing this Boehner having affairs story but I haven't seen it here or anywhere else. Anyone?

Posted by: USS Diversity at February 22, 2011 08:18 PM (DLxD/)

Ohio Dan should have the lowdown sometime soon.

131 Who's going to pay for their motel and meal bills? Are they going to try to claim that they are an expense? I dare them.

Posted by: Moi at February 22, 2011 08:19 PM (Ez4Ql)

When do Democrats pay for anything?

132 Picture ID to vote legislation was passed by the GOP controlled WI Legislature but vetoed by Dem WI Gov Doyle.

The Honey Badgers have come home to roost.

133 Posted by: USS Diversity at February 22, 2011 08:18 PM (DLxD/)

every time i see it mentioned I post the link and everyone says "more bullchit"

I don't care if he's having affairs, I care that he's having affairs and "they" know it and "they" are somehow using it to control the process.

134 130 - sorry. I been working didn't see all the threads. But, anyway, he is awesome!

135 Congratulations. You got out drawn by the 142nd fastest gun.....in the west:

Its so nice, it need to be posted twice!

136 The Fleebaggers supporters are "bUNIONS". They can cause a hellava alot of pain. But when you try to remove them you're in for even more hurtin...

137 133 Georgia sucks for "state mammal".  The right whale.  Really?  I want the honey badger.  And I want them roaming the back alleys of Atlanta and Savannah.

Posted by: Honey Badgerdoesn't give a shit at February 22, 2011 08:18 PM (UOM4

There are zero right whales in Georgia. How can that be the state mammal?

Why not unicorns?

Posted by: Oldcat at February 22, 2011 08:19 PM (z1N6a)

They calve off the coast.

138 O/T Peru has severed diplomatic relations with Libya, the first nation to do so officially

139 Who's going to pay for their motel and meal bills?

Shirley, you jest.

140 You know, perhaps our modern version of the Gadsden flag should feature the honey badger.

141 Peru has severed diplomatic relations with Libya, the first nation to do so officially
Posted by: George Orwell at February 22, 2011 08:22 PM

We'll, uh, catch up.

142

They calve off the coast.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2011 08:22 PM (UOM4

They bust in two?

Ha ha iceberg humor.

If its not red dirt, its not Georgia. I don't make the rules I just enforce em.

143 Maybe, in addition to the rattlesnake, we could get the Honey Badger on the Gadsden Flag?


Please?

144 Sounds like the per diem rules need to be, er, 'adjusted ' as well so that you have to have a physical presence in the building each day to qualify. Pay should be set somehow to attendance as well.
 
Stop giving away money just because.
 
pawn, to see how to identify and cut wasteful dead programs locally, see the Christie thread below on zero based budgeting.

145 Peru has severed diplomatic relations with Libya, the first nation to do so officially

Posted by: George Orwell at February 22, 2011 08:22 PM (AZGON)

And I thought those two crazy kids would work it out.

146 Maybe, in addition to the rattlesnake, we could get the Honey Badger on the Gadsden Flag?


Please?

Posted by: sifty at February 22, 2011 08:24 PM (cK4d/)

He deserves his own flag, with his motto on the bottom.

147 144 You know, perhaps our modern version of the Gadsden flag should feature the honey badger.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 22, 2011 08:23 PM (AZGON)

Eating that snake on the Gadsden flag.  Excellent.  And change, "Don't tread on me" to "Don't fuck with me.  'Cause I don't give a shit"

148 Thanks for putting me some info.

149 And yeah, like I think curious might be alluding to, if its only in the MFM, its probably BS.

150 It just occurred to me.  Heard somewhere that all the government departments have a huge stash of money that was given out and they can't seem to spend.  wonder if that is what will be used to bail out all the blue states?

151 And yeah, like I think curious might be alluding to, if its only in the MFM, its probably BS.

Posted by: NC Ref at February 22, 2011 08:26 PM (/izg2)

The odds that a non-liberal GOPer could get away with that are long indeed.

152 heh. Beat me to it George.

153 The Honey Badgers have come home to roost.
Posted by: HBDGAS at February 22, 2011 08:20 PM

And by the way, when Honey Badgers roost, they just leave their babies in a cobra's nest while they kick back and watch t.v. After the youngsters are full of cobra, the grownups eat cobra rinds and mate.

154 Did the teachers go back to work today?

155 You know, perhaps our modern version of the Gadsden flag should feature the honey badger.

What? And the motto
"DON'T EVEN FUCKING LOOK AT ME ASSHOLE!"
?

156 I promise I'll have a Honey Badger Flag by Tax Day Rally.

What is Latin for "I don't give a shit?" and "That's nasty!"

157 I'll take a stab at making the honey badger flag. Because of the vitriol.

158 Funnay.  When our son became an Eagle Scout, someone reminded him that Benjamin Franklin wanted the turkey over the eagle.

Imagine "Turkey Scouts."

I'm thinking a fiercer version of the Eagle Scout:  The Honey Badger Scout.

159 Bee larvae is honey, right?

160 Honey Badgers mate on fire ant hills for the added playzure.

161

The odds that a non-liberal GOPer could get away with that are long indeed.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 22, 2011 08:27 PM (z1N6a)

Tell me about it!!!

162 My HB flag will have a Honey Badger raping a donkey while smoking a cigar.

163 I think honey is bee spooge.

164 Honey Badgers use cobra skins for condoms.

165 Ace!  Sponsor a "Design A Honey Badger Flag" contest!

166 A caller on my local radio station said:

'Want to know the easiest way to drop half the union workers off the state payroll?  Invent a broom and/or shovel that holds itself up.'

I laughed so hard I just about peed my pants

167 The bill could go before the Senate on Thursday, though leaders have not yet decided when they would vote on it.

Exsqueeze me? Haven't decided?

168 The Battle of Madison, the rebels set their defense:

http://tinyurl.com/5rod5su

169 My HB flag will have a Honey Badger eating a swarm of Flee Party fleas.

170 Replace the damn GOP elephant with Honey Badger. You see the elephant, you think of lovable ole Dumbo and peanuts; wrinkly skin and ears only slightly smaller than OBarkys, and the circus.
 
With Honey Badger, you are saying 'we don't give a shit'.

171 Exsqueeze me? Haven't decided?
Posted by: some dope at February 22, 2011 08:32 PM

That's why I'm not breaking out the pudding yet.

172 Thanks for the info guys. I guess CenturyLink is just trying to do their part.

173 HB could be the mascot for the new Tea Party.

174 174 Replace the damn GOP elephant with Honey Badger. You see the elephant, you think of lovable ole Dumbo and peanuts; wrinkly skin and ears only slightly smaller than OBarkys, and the circus.
 
With Honey Badger, you are saying 'we don't give a shit'.

+1000

175 G-D, I love my hometown-girl Mary!!!!!

176 Krauthammer is right.  The only real issue here is the collective bargaining rights one, which can be separated from the bill and made its own, and voted on with the Republican majority.  No Democrats needed for this, since it does not affect finance.

Do it and vote.  Done.

And then sit back and wait.  They'll have no more reason to be absent.

And as for doing layoffs, governor, the Hammer says don't do it, and I am with him on this also.  It is very bad politics, and if you do as instructed above, you won't even need to do this.

177 Honey Badger don't play.

178 154 It just occurred to me.  Heard somewhere that all the government departments have a huge stash of money that was given out and they can't seem to spend.  wonder if that is what will be used to bail out all the blue states?

Posted by: curious at February 22, 2011 08:27 PM (p302b) 

I think the Tooth Fairy has that stashed in the back of his VW bus in Nan Fran Pelosiville.

179 Randall did a lot more videos.

180 I'd like to see a flaming Honey Badger heading posts about Wisconsin.

181 182 154 It just occurred to me.  Heard somewhere that all the government departments have a huge stash of money that was given out and they can't seem to spend.  wonder if that is what will be used to bail out all the blue states?

Posted by: curious at February 22, 2011 08:27 PM (p302b) 

Michelle carries that stash in her $6000 handbag when she and the girls and their gal pals travel.  It's pocket money to them.

182 Golden background

Black honey badger on hind legs with Ace of Spades tattoo on flexed right bicep
left arm holding donkey reins in clenched fist
American flag tattoo on left bicep
lit cigar clamped in honey badger's teeth
donkey on all fours in front of honey badger with bugged-out eyes

Latin motto " Honey Badger don't give a shit" above on ribbon

Latin motto " Don't fuck with me" below on ribbon

183

Governor Walker's Fireside Chat to Taxpayers

*speech to the people of Wisconsin

184 You know, perhaps our modern version of the Gadsden flag should feature the honey badger.

Motto:

"You'll be begging for the snake when I get done with you."



"Go ahead. Run! That's what the rattlesnake tried."

185

Anyone heard anymore out of that Pussy Mitch Daniels?

I flipped over to MSNBC when I got home and they and the Unions are doing victory laps because they scared the little weasel into backing down.

186 189

Anyone heard anymore out of that Pussy Mitch Daniels?

My former state senator here in Georgia told me a few weeks ago, that Mitch Daniels was his front-runner.  So much for that.

187

154 It just occurred to me.  Heard somewhere that all the government departments have a huge stash of money that was given out and they can't seem to spend.  wonder if that is what will be used to bail out all the blue states?

Later this spring, the House is supposedly bringing forward legislation to prevent the bailout of states. Harry Reid likely wouldn't let it stand, though.

188 What's the over/under on Kasich folding like a cheap lawn chair?

189 Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachman would not have backed off.

190 Who's going to pay for their motel and meal bills?

That's a good question.  They've been eating at a Chinese buffet, for whatever that's worth.

AND none of them showed up to vote today on a resolution honoring the Packers. That's worth at least five thousand recall signatures apiece.

191 I like to fart on bees just to add insult to injury.  The ones that aren't stunned or killed get all riled up.  Much more fun that way.

You think that's silly?  Lemme see you stick your ass in a beehive and wave it around.

192 Black flag. Honey badger lying on his back with his junk exposed. Bottle of Val-U-Rite in one had. Cigarette in the other. Snarl on his face. Surrounded by dead donkeys and cobras. Motto: I don't give a fuck.

193 192 What's the over/under on Kasich folding like a cheap lawn chair?

Posted by: Barbarian at February 22, 2011 08:44 PM (EL+OC)

I saw him interviewed tonight.  I think they all caught mccain syndrome.  They're all going to back down and the dems are going to use this to their advantage to remain in power in 2012.

194 Picture ID for Democrats is like holy water on vampires.  Do it.  Make everybody show a picture ID.  We had that debate two years ago in Texas and the dims bullshit about how that somehow "disenfranchised" poor voters was patheticly transparent.

When they had that fight in Indiana, one of the "star" witnesses brought forth to testify about how she'd be "disenfranchised" admitted to voting in multiple states in the same election. In other words, admitted to fraud.

195

If this Dem Erpenbach wants his vote to count by phone, then he must also let it count as the 20th senator for the budget vote (giving them the quorum they need).  No picking and choosing when he does/doesn't participate via phone.

I totally agree with this!  (post #14)  Excellent idea.

196 Here's my Latin motto:

Honey Badger Non Assis Facis

197 HB to In the Ghetto.

198 Wouldn't surprise me if McCain himself wasn't calling all these guys and telling them to sell out.

199 It's boring as hell down here in Georgia. 

What we need is an attack of honey badgers in the State Capitol. 

200 Or

Mella Ianthinis Non Assis Facis

201 187

Governor Walker's Fireside Chat to Taxpayers

*speech to the people of Wisconsin

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 22, 2011 08:39 PM (yfJ6g)

Powerful.

202 Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachman would not have backed off.
Posted by: curious at February 22, 2011 08:45 PM

Of course. They have testicles.

203

I saw him interviewed tonight.  I think they all caught mccain syndrome.  They're all going to back down and the dems are going to use this to their advantage to remain in power in 2012.

Posted by: curious at February 22, 2011 08:47 PM (p302b)

No surprise really. I'll be on a bender for the next few months.

204 When they had that fight in Indiana, one of the "star" witnesses brought forth to testify about how she'd be "disenfranchised" admitted to voting in multiple states in the same election.

To an oppressed minority Democrat, not being able to vote in multiple districts is "disenfranchisement."

205 It's official. The Honey Badger Flag

206 Holy crap.

I am in the wrong industry.

207 Of course. They have testicles.

Posted by: arhooley at February 22, 2011 08:52 PM (D45hw)

who or what is castrating all these male politicians and the females seem to be all testosteroned up....

208 Anything that results in the Democrat losing is disenfranchisement.

209 209 It's official. The Honey Badger Flag

Posted by: George Orwell at February 22, 2011 08:55 PM (AZGON)

I kneel before your awesomeness. 

210 This would be the perfect time for Walker to introduce his "Gubernatorial Right of Primae Noctis" bill.

211 That's a nice flag.

212

Anybody see this news segment with the WI Minority Leader Sen. Mark Miller from his undisclosed location? He talks about the Constitution and states that Walker got what he wanted. You see, in a democracy, you get some of what you want, not all of what you want, and Walker needs to give-in to the oppressed workers fighting for their rights.

I feel like I'm in The Twilight Zone.

 

213 CDR M,

I am torn.....

on the one hand I want the alien tail to be kicked by the US OTOH there is alarmingly something almost as gratifying in watching LA get badgerslapped as there was in watching the WH go up in ID4......

214 WI won't be over until Walker has pissed on the ashes of those union contracts.

215 Anyone who survives a honey badger attack and lives past 70 can collect social security.

216 Is it legal to own a honey badger as a sort of "get off my lawn" deterrent? 

We have these dumbass teenagers who don't seem to know that our kid has been in the Marines for over a year.  The silly bastards love landscaping our yard with rolls of toilet paper.  Even into our high trees.  It takes us (D'oh and myself) days to get the crap out of the trees. 

Heh.  Before he left for boot camp, this crap happened, and the D'oh Boy asked permission to fire a few rounds over their heads.  We quickly tamped that shit down.  Still........

217 170 A caller on my local radio station said:

'Want to know the easiest way to drop half the union workers off the state payroll?  Invent a broom and/or shovel that holds itself up.'

I laughed so hard I just about peed my pants

Posted by: momma at February 22, 2011 08:32 PM (penCf)

Down our way, we issue shovels with rope handles to union workers.  That way they can't sleep on the job!

218 It's too bad common sense is dead. Here's my solution: 1. Pass a resolution that docks pay for any public employee who does not show up for work without a valid excuse. (teachers, reps, etc.) 2. Any public employee who is absent from work without a valid excuse (verifiable illness, FMLA compliant stuff) for more than 5 days and/ or does not call in each day is considered to have abandoned their position voluntarily and is terminated (making them ineligible for unemployment benefits, etc.) 3. Prosecute the doctors and those who are obtaining false doctors notes to the fullest extent of the law. I would assume that fraud related to employment is more than sufficient grounds for termination. Failure to present compelling evidence of innocence of the charge, while awaiting trial, is grounds for immediate termination. If they are subsequently found not guilty, they can re-apply (or re-run for office) 4. Per diems and expenses are only considered valid for days when a public employee was in attendance for the full work day and actively performing work duties. Any travel or related expenses that have not otherwise been pre-approved (in the case of reps, by a majority vote) are considered invalid. There you go. Problem solved in no more than 5 days across the board. I have completely had it with any and all public employees, regardless of position or local, state, or federal office, being paid to NOT go to work and the ludicrous, uncapped expenses. You were elected to do a job. If you don't want to or are unable to do it, resign or be terminated. The same goes for the 2 House reps who were too busy at a fundraiser to be sworn in. You're fired. Period. No more excuses, or other BS.

219 You know what will even be more fun?  Wait until the NFLPA goes on strike.

Whoops, I guess they arrange it so that it's a "lockout" or something.

Look for the union label, it's on an Armani suit.

220

Why would they get per diem checks when they're not at work?

Those would be checks from previously submitted expenses. Lawmakers love per diems.

221 Look for the union label, it's on an Armani suit.

Is he a bro?  'Cause I love his shit.

222 Heh.  Wisconsin Republicans are doing Shakespeare -- Taming of the PEU!

223 h/t the sidebar.

Rahm wins!  This proves that Democrats hate black people.

224 WI won't be over until Walker has pissed on the ashes of those union contracts.
Posted by: sifty at February 22, 2011 09:04 PM

This is true. Legislatively and budgetarily speaking, WI is in the same position now as it was two weeks ago. The teachers, Flee baggers, and quacks are holding the line.

225 O/T:  "Gaddafi's Next Move: Sabotage Oil and Sow Chaos?

226 Every major and minor player in all of the Make Believe Media is agitating on behalf of the unions in all these states.

Unless Walker goes Reagan on this thing fast, the commies will win it all. This has gone on too long and given the loons too much time to organize.

227 According to a HA link, the unions are already negotiating a general strike in WI if the reform bill passes.

228 I thought some judge disqualified Tiny Dancer from the RAT-cago ballot?

229 @12: "I won't extend courtesies for unethical behavior,"

THIS!  If only the other Rs would figure this out.

The problem is that if we don't extend them courtesies for their unethical behavior, then they won't extend us courtesies for our ethical behavior.  So clearly, the only obvious choice is to well...I hate to use words like "capitulate," "surrender," or "abandon our position"...shall we say instead "exercise collegiality"?  Yes, that sounds nice.  Very win/win

230 Unless Walker goes Reagan on this thing fast, the commies will win it all. This has gone on too long and given the loons too much time to organize.

No kiddin'. The Lieutenant Gov was on just now saying "Friday is the drop-dead date" and then . . . they'll have to start laying off workers.

Laying off? Laying off??!! JUST STRIP OUT THE BUDGET COMPONENT AND VOOOOTE ON THE damn collective bargaining parts already!!!!!!

231

 Look for the union label

I always look for it, and avoid purchasing union-made products whenever possible.  (Usually, their products don't make it past my 'price filter' anyway.)

232 232 According to a HA link, the unions are already negotiating a general strike in WI if the reform bill passes.

That's good. Fire them all and offer to hire them back at half pay.

233 According to a HA link, the unions are already negotiating a general strike in WI if the reform bill passes.
Posted by: mrp at February 22, 2011 09:24 PM

At this point, no interviewer should be asking the WI Republicans, "What are you planning to do?" The question is now, "What are you waiting for?"

234 230 O/T:  "Gaddafi's Next Move: Sabotage Oil and Sow Chaos?
Posted by: curious   Gaddafi or Obama?

235 231 Every major and minor player in all of the Make Believe Media is agitating on behalf of the unions in all these states.

Unless Walker goes Reagan on this thing fast, the commies will win it all. This has gone on too long and given the loons too much time to organize.

Not necessarily.

1. If all unions in the state hold a sympathy strike for the teachers, as threatened, it would be a direct violation of the labor agreement for all state and county employees involved.

That gives him the leverage to go Reagan / PATCO on them

2. The budget has to be amended by the end of this week, one way or another, or the state's bond rating takes a hit. 

He's threatened to start laying off state employees if the Dems don't return.  No matter how the Dems, the unions, and the press will try to claim that it's him doing it, I think the state employees will lash out at the teachers for screwing them over.

3. The longer this goes on, the bigger the hit for Obama in particular, Dems in general, and public sector unions as a whole.  They may win one battle in Wisconsin but, even if they do, they're going to lose the war because people are PISSED over this.

236 237 232 According to a HA link, the unions are already negotiating a general strike in WI if the reform bill passes.

That's good. Fire them all and offer to hire them back at half pay.

Hell, don't hire them all back.  Selectively hire back the ones who are good at what they're doing.

Any strike by public unions in WI is illegal and is grounds for immediate termination.

237 Laying off? Laying off??!! JUST STRIP OUT THE BUDGET COMPONENT AND VOOOOTE ON THE damn collective bargaining parts already!!!!!!

Exactly, it's looking more and more like Walker and the R's are more interested in trying to win the public relations war than actually doing something. They look scared.

238 the unions are already negotiating a general strike in WI if the reform bill passes.

I read the story at Channel 3000. Am I getting this right? Even unions at private companies?

239 So, when does the shitcanning of socialists get started?  Getting bored with the preliminaries.

240 mrp: "According to a HA link, the unions are already negotiating a general strike in WI if the reform bill passes."

New job openings soon coming to WI. Come for the work, stay for the cheddar!

241 _{"Wisconsin fight surfaces on Beacon Hill where members of Tea Party and unions clash"}

242

@103: "Is this guy wanting to be President?  I think he has already delivered 3 or 4 Ninja kicks to McCain's nuts."

*ahem* We believe that Mitch Daniels demonstrated the proper form today, not that uncouth lout from Wisconsin.

243

 So, when does the shitcanning of socialists get started?  Getting bored with the preliminaries.

Dream on. Flublicans will cave, bank on it.

244 I really hope my fellow morons are paying attention to reality and not just taking all this doom talk as hyperbole. We are on the precipice of collapse on a worldwide scale. The commercial real estate bubble is the next to pop and it's going to start this fall. On top of all the rest of the shit that is going on .. get prepared.

245 ONT is probably imminent, but can someone put me some facts? Why is it illegal for public servants to strike? I mean, there are plenty of laws that outta be but aren't, and I'd like to know the official reasons for this one actually existing.

246 Like the easy stir(battery operated hands-free stiring robot) thingy.

But there goes millions of those shovel ready jobs my stimulus bill created

247 Posted by: The GOP at February 22, 2011 09:36 PM (xy9wk)

so how are those contributions going?  Cause all the old people republicans that I know, actual registered republicans, are suddenly throwing out your solicitations of contributions to the party and saying they are independents, some changing their registration and putting the republican party on the "do not call" list.

248 I really hope my fellow morons are paying attention to reality and not just taking all this doom talk as hyperbole.

I keep trying to tell my mom we need to get out of California. It's too late now, though. I'm thinking 50 years down the road. I'm flashing on that scene in Doctor Zhivago where Omar Sharif and Julie Christie go to the dacha and it's all full of snow and cobwebs and wolves are at the door and they live there like cavemen.

249 JackStraw: "On top of all the rest of the shit that is going on .. get prepared."

Short of actually visiting their houses and clubbing them over the head, I'm not sure what else I can do. Would more crying help?

250 ONT is probably imminent, but can someone put me some facts? Why is it illegal for public servants to strike? I mean, there are plenty of laws that outta be but aren't, and I'd like to know the official reasons for this one actually existing.

Posted by: arhooley at February 22, 2011 09:37 PM (D45hw

the government provides services no one else provides. If the firefighters go on strike you can't call a different firefighting company. If the teachers go on strike you can't send your kids to a different school.

251 With the exception of Daniels, all vocal GOP (lawmakers and governors) members have stood-by Walker.

252 Sean Calamity is busy sucking Hucks dick again tonight.

253 Organizing for America has sent out an email asking for "community organizing" volunteers.  Well, at least I think volunteers.  My friend just told me about the email but won't let me see it since I read "that heinous blog".

254 The scuttlebutt is that the line is Vegas is 10 to 1 Walker squishes before the end of the month. 

255 Why is it illegal for public servants to strike?

Comes from the good ol days when they were far fewer in number, and considered essential workers; that it would be unethical for a public servant to be derelict in their duty of protecting and supporting the public welfare.

256 curious: "My friend just told me about the email but won't let me see it since I read 'that heinous blog'."

Awesome. Our cred is back.

257 Thanks for the knowledge, all.

258 I'd like to know the official reasons for this one actually existing.

Posted by: arhooley at February 22, 2011 09:37 PM (D45hw)

That was the worm in the apple for CBAs when passed in most states. No strikes.

 Really, how could it be different? Public health/safety/good is involved AND public money too.

Of course I want all CBAs put in the shitcan of history.

259 If the Rs in WI end up settling, I hope they at least keep the elimination of automatic payroll deduction for union dues...because when the members end up writing their own checks...well, maybe they'll wake up.

260 My friend just told me about the email but won't let me see it since I read "that heinous blog".

Curious, I don't care much for your friends.

261 I don't think Walker is going to cave.

262 >>Short of actually visiting their houses and clubbing them over the head, I'm not sure what else I can do. Would more crying help? Look at your finances. Learn how to make the best of what's coming. More millionaires came out of the depression than any other time in US history because they say where wealth was going. Oil has spike almost 10% in the last TWO days. That's an annual return for a great investment portfolio. Pay attention. Shit is about to get very real and people are going to get hurt. Others will make out. Choose.

263 268--I sure hope he doesn't.  This needs to play out alllll the way, and the sooner done, the better.

264

@237: "Fire them all and offer to hire them back at half pay"

Then fire them again.

265 271

@237: "Fire them all and offer to hire them back at half pay"

Then fire them again.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at February 22, 2011 09:52 PM (xy9wk)

Yes. When the states fiscally stable again and won't take a big hit on their unemployment line.

266 Take a paintball gun to a random branch of a local government. Ask everyone what they do. If they can't answer, shoot them once. If they answer in more than 50 words, shoot them twice.

Everyone with paint on is fired. Everyone shot twice is prosecuted.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 22, 2011 08:07 PM (z1N6a)

 

That is soooo good.  Adopted.

267 jack, yeah many of us have a cardboard box ready, no other preparing when you havent worked in months. some of us will be finished.

268

@253: "so how are those contributions going?  Cause all the old people republicans that I know, actual registered republicans, are suddenly throwing out your solicitations of contributions to the party and saying they are independents, some changing their registration and putting the republican party on the "do not call" list."

It's so cute when you peasants try to rebel.  We love the "tough guy" thing - very exciting.   You'll vote for us in the end, and send cash, too.

269 The teachers held a fund raiser for them tonight and raised 10,000 to give to them.

270 And the $10,000 were listed as political contributions, right?

271 timwi: "The teachers held a fund raiser for them tonight and raised 10,000 to give to them."

Well, I'd contribute but Isabel won't dock itself.

272 Here's an idea, why don't we leave the public employee pay and benefits alone and just cut the welfare checks by whatever amount is necessary to offset them.

The more the unions ask for, the less goes out to the welfare moochers.

273 willow- I meant no disrespect and I know how that many are not able to do anything other than hang on through no fault of their own. I've got some family members in that situation and we do what we can to help each other. My point was we talk so much about "doom" it sometimes sounds like a joke. It's not. It's going to get worse and soon. I hate hearing how some morons are hurting and wish I could do more than just sound like a nag and warn that more crap is coming. But it is. If I had the resources to do more I would.

274 We're the party of "NO, we don't give a shit"

275

I kneel before your awesomeness. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2011 09:00 PM (UOM4

Hey Jane, you are a real good sport aren't you?!

 

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