1 So if Republicans and Conservatives run on family values (despite that a few will fall from grace from time to time), what do Dems and Libs run on? Q E D They have NO values, NO morals, NO ethics.

2 I'm surprised that you didn't add a link to Zombie's second diagram.

That's the problem in a nutshell, really.

(Actually, no I'm not. You obviously get paid by the word.)

3

I gave up shortly after the non-pic of Ms. Ham.

I'll try reading the rest later.  Or not.

4 To be fair, the Representative in question did run on a pro-Weiner platform.

5 The Republican Party is, as a party, resistant to gay marriage.

Fucking period.

Not true wingnut, we don't like the opposition to abortion either.  What kind of anti-science moralist would demand they we can't just get rid of the human weeds?!?

6 "I don't think marital fidelity is a particularly important value."

7 Kinda but not really off topic.  We sometimes list particularly despicable members of the media/progressive alliance.  Well, Richard Cohen is name not mentioned often enough in this context.

8 But whenever Republicans do it, it is, as the left has it, "using children as a prop" and of course inviting scrutiny on the marital-fidelity front.

Using children as a prop? That's hot.

9 Did Anthony Weiner ever announce, publicly, "I believe marriage is primarily a tax-minimization arrangement, and the other elements of it are generally optional"? Is it too late to try that now? Damn. That's pretty good.

10 We admit it. We're gay for Weiner.

11

Using children as a prop? That's hot.

+1

12 note the major, major hypocrisy of a dirty son-of-a-bitch like Charles Rangel who runs on a platform of Big Government and the Sanctity of High Taxation Rates who then turns around and "forgets" to report big ticket items in his income. Or a son-of-a-bitch like Charles Schumer, Hero of the Common Working Man, taking in more money from Big Banking than almost anyone in history. Hypocrisy there? Oh, man, I need a cigarette. You had me at "dirty son-of-a-bitch."

13

You're finally touching on things I've been thinking for ywears now...

BUT, you haven't acknowledged yet the depth of this shit, it goes into the universities, into the political hiring in large bureaucracies...

It's not just the media, the media is the shit that gets on tv, the USSR-ization of the US continues, and of course, it comes from the left.

14

Now if ace could convince our dumbass politicians and our ever dumberass pundits that get on TV to put that in the medias face then maybe we could change it.

I am not seeing it happening but I would love to.

15 Tangentially related, David Gelernter disappoints today at NRO. ...Which brings me back to Weiner. Weiner didn’t commit adultery or anything near adultery. He committed tasteless stupidity, and there’s no law against that. When reporters first asked him about the expose reports, he should have said “Butt out.” The biggest offense in this case is the dirtying of the public airwaves and news-waves with ugly, trivial junk; it’s an offense like the one that used to be popular a generation ago with “urban youths,” who would carry around giant boom boxes and play music (or whatever it was) at deafening volumes. This is hardball, fellas, and pretending the genie isn't out of the bottle and in the batter's box won't win the game. Mixing metaphors like a madman, I am!

16 How about when Democrats cheat on their taxes? That's like a married, family values Republican fucking an AIDS infected whore on Pay-Per-View.

17 I would love to see that in an ad campaign, a montage of media people saying on tv that the republicans are the family values candidates. Then have a narrator saying that the media has noticed my oppenent does not believe in families, do you want to elect the anti family value candidate?

18
Don't discount Congressman Weiner.  He can put the toothpaste back in the tube with ease and convince the dunderhead rubes that all is well.

19 How about when Democrats cheat on their taxes? As if!

20 Its worth adding that Weiner isn't a hypocrite because he preached some sort of sexual morality. . .

He's a hypocrite because he's sponsored some sort of legislation against female sexual harrassment.

The main point is that he actually is a hypocrite.

21 They have NO values, NO morals, NO ethics.

They have all of those things. They just have to make them up as they go along. Having rejected tradition and authority, they come up with new vices and new virtues.
A dicpic is a venial sin at best. An SUV is a mortal sin.

22

He can put the toothpaste back in the tube with ease

And as it happens, he's got with him at all times just the implement to push the toothpaste back into the tube.

23 Matt Damon!

24 Whoops: And abortion. Forgot that one.

Your mistake is pretending that the "hypocrisy" defense/offense is real, not that you've insufficiently rationalized along with the profferers of it.

Democrats want to be ruled—and want you to be ruled—by rapists, killers, thieves, degenerates, etc. Don't even try to argue that they don't. The list that proves it is as almost as long as the list of all Democrats.

They seldom admit this about themselves, or to themselves, of course, because they're pussies, and they know it's wrong. And Republicans don't call it out, and also seldom admit it to themselves, because Republicans are afraid of Democrats—because Ds are the rape/kill/destroy/etc. party.

"Yeah all those queers and single moms and teachers are really scary, man."

Must be. You're fucking terrified of them.

25 I don't call it hypocrisy Ace is when you advocate one policy while doing its opposite. What I call the MFM is liars. They say this crap but what they really mean is we are totally in the pocket of the Dems and we will never attack them. We will not even report their screw ups until someone else crams it down our throats.

The MFM blew all of their credibility in the 2008 election. They were so in the tank for Obama from the get-go that even Democrats remarked on it. Nobody trusts them now. Used car salesman and lawyers have a better rep than reporters.

26

...is that conservatives run on something called "Family Values" or "Morality."

Yeah, so what they're saying by extension is liberals are supposed to be scumbags and everyone knows that.

And we all know the media doesn't cover how many airplanes landed safely today or any other news that really isn't news.

Ergo the media doesn't cover liberal sex scandals.

It's all quite elementary my dear Watson.

27 It's too bad that guy who shouts 'EN FUEGO!' got laid off, because Ace has been ON FIRE!

28
They don't only lie to save their sick selves from full exposure, but they lie because they like it.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at June 07, 2011 06:17 PM (G/MYk)

In doctor talk, that's called sociopathy.

Weiner is an unrepentant pervert living a life of debauchery.

29 ...Which brings me back to Weiner. Weiner didnÂ’t commit adultery or anything near adultery.

Um.

Forgive me for being a reactionary bible-thumper, but I think engaging in explicit sexual talk while masturbating with individuals other than your spouse is "near adultery".

More important, the story came out today that Weiner was talking about meeting one of the women he "chatted" with (a blackjack dealer in Las Vegas) in person, presumably for sex.

So, that's "intent to commit adultery", I think.

30 Funny, I think some voters might have been interested to hear that before the actual day of the election.

The easy solution is to assume that Democrats are likely to be amoral pieces of shit.

31

Hear, hear, Ace, and as an addendum, would anyone else agree that they're sick to death of hearing (for example, from Jeff Javitz on CNN this last weekend) that "in Europe, something like this would be no big deal."

Really?  Tell that to Berlusconi.  Or head north and west and take a look at the majority of political scandals in Britain over the last fifty years.  Or cross the Channel and see if there's anything about M. Strauss-Kahn in the French media.

Some of the media elite seem to view "Europe" the way chroniclers of the Middle Ages viewed the world outside their border, as a place of wonders where normal reality is inverted and the impossible is a daily occurrence.

32 It may not have met the legal standard of adultery, but Weiner definitely cheated.

33 Funny, I think some voters might have been interested to hear that before the actual day of the election.

And the day of erection even!

34 >>>When reporters first asked him about the expose reports, he should have said “Butt out.”


Umm.. .
He tried that by stonewalling questions and hiding behind lawyers.
Oddly, It didn't work out to well for him.

35 start retweeting these Weiner quotes. Mel Gibson has been dethroned. Weiner in bold, naturally

you give good h**d?
i've been told really good...I love doing it
wow a jewish girl who sucks c***! this thing is ready to do damage
and swallows every drop.
god damn how do I get you here to f*** me?
<= thinking about gagging your hot mouth with my c***

to get us in the mood. first we watch back to back episodes of the daily show and colbert reportÂ…then, to really spice things up we go deface all of my neighbor's sharon angle yard signsÂ…then when we are really hot we go to the bookstore and cover all of the glen beck books with copies of "the audacity of hope!"Â…i do this about once a week (you can tell i am a very exciting girl!)Â…or if this i not your thing, we can just get drunk and have mad, passionate
sex!

why choose? with me behind you can't we both watch daily show?
Hhaha! seeÂ…you are always thinking! you are so rightÂ…aahhh the perfect liberal evening!

i hear liberal girls are very, uh, accommodating of others
of course! it is all about taking care of the little guy!
little?! ouch. you'd be surprised how big'


see radar

36 While we're on the subject of MKH, can anyone confirm that she did in fact get married to a libtard?

37 Let me interject the idea that hypocrisy is actually a good thing.
The opposite of hypocrisy is advocacy. Do we really want practitioners of whatever vice to go about declaring their failings as virtues?

38

When reporters first asked him about the expose reports, he should have said “Butt out.”

Well, if you're Anthony Weiner "butt out" isn't a warning to leave him alone.

It's a command.

Let's ask Meagan Broussard.

39 Well, if a politician said the following:

 "I support the destruction of traditional marriage, destruction of traditional families, and the sexualization of children..  Also, I deeply oppose the moral values as set forth in religious texts and I find Christianity to be particularly offensive. If you vote me, I can promise you decadence...government funded decadence...on a scale not seen since the fall of the Roman empire."

I'm thinking that would only play well in San Francisco. So, any democrat with aspirations of national office would have to lie.

40

On the hypocrisy thing...  so if I am telling the children that they should not shoot up heroin, while I am shooting heroin.  I am worse than the guy who is shooting heroin but not telling others it is bad.  I am worse than the guy shooting it and is nuetral on if kids should also shoot up.

I just dont get the arguement.

41

It is the reason the poeple on the Left choose to be on the Left. They are attempting to get away from having to take responsibility for thier actions.

Soros is a big advocate on what he refers to as an "Open Society." This is a foundatonal stone in the Progressive Movement...it's all about creating chaos in the culture to reshape it and then control it with the idea that only the "State" or the culture as a whole can decide what is Right or Wrong and where there is no such thing as a "Fact." He has written extensively about it.

It's all about redirecting faith and religion from traditional sources to the State.

This plays out currently with the Left attempting to destroy all Christian Symbolism, and pretending that all behavior is instinctive and natural, and therefore should not be punished.

 

42 --When reporters first asked him about the expose reports, he should have said “Butt out.” -- Umm.. . He tried that by stonewalling questions and hiding behind lawyers. Oddly, It didn't work out to well for him. Which is precisely why Gelernter's point of view is so odd. It's never a good idea to pretend the truth isn't out there and things that happened, didn't. Especially when others are fully taking account of it.

43 39 Let me interject the idea that hypocrisy is actually a good thing.
The opposite of hypocrisy is advocacy. Do we really want practitioners of whatever vice to go about declaring their failings as virtues?
===

Its an interesting point.

I think the answer is that we want people who don't exhibit these sorts of vices.   That way they don't have to endorse the vices, nor conceal them.

44

Hear, hear, Ace, and as an addendum, would anyone else agree that they're sick to death of hearing (for example, from Jeff Javitz on CNN this last weekend) that "in Europe, something like this would be no big deal."

Kinda like deodorant.

45 I love these kind of posts where ace, and others, speculate as to why dems get treated like children while we get treated like adults. The media coddles democrats; they feed them their din din and wipe their asses . Republicans? Well, if you misspeak, you're an idiot or racist or whatever, you never get the benefit of the doubt, but the one advantage is that when shit goes south we don't look like children and when we're criticized, at least the conservatives around here, you hit back instead of whining like a little bitch.

46 Great post Ace. Well said.

47 I am concerned by the tone you are all using.

48

@47

"I love these kind of posts where ace, and others, speculate as to why dems get treated like children while we get treated like adults. The media coddles democrats;"

Yeah...but you never answered why? There is an agenda in place, been around for a long time, that transcends just Partisan Politics. Soros has not been afraid to explain it.

49 DON'T YOU GET IT BEING LIBERAL IS LIKE A REALLY BIG BINKY AND I LOVE MY BINKY NOM NOM NOM WHERES MY SSDI CHECK WTF

50

Democrats:  It is easy to never be a hypocrite when you have the moral equivalence of a dog in heat.

51

Can't wait for the Dems to rollout the new "Married with Kids Sucks" campaigns.

Will they run on the on the "Single with Buttsex & Drugs" platform ?

52

There is an agenda in place, been around for a long time, that transcends just Partisan Politics.

Since 1848, in fact.

53 The opposite of hypocrisy is advocacy. Do we really want practitioners of whatever vice to go about declaring their failings as virtues? Now that would make for must-see TV. Hypocrisy isn't having failings, it's claiming one standard for one person and a different standard for another.

54 "Hypocrisy!" is the most offensive charge that Progressives can make (other than racist which really has more of an ebb and flow quality) which is why it's so often made even when inappropriately applied. Why? Projection by the Statist. "Do as I say and not as I do" is profoundly applicable to politicians/leaders who want power and control and would relinquish neither for themselves. How do you defend against this natural state of the politically invasive class? Charge others of the offense first and most.

Hypocrisy projection is the defense method of the Statist since the Statist's whole existence is dependent upon hypocritical behavior.

55 Liberals do not have integrity, they have goals.

56 They couldn't care less about any hypocrisy on anyone's part. They know the accusation carries weight so they use it as a means of bullying.

57 "Single with Buttsex & Drugs" platform ? Posted by: Huckleberry at June 07, 2011 06:29 PM (s2bW4) Ace already has that for his run against Weiner in the 9th CD.

58 There is an agenda in place, been around for a long time, that transcends just Partisan Politics. Since 1848, in fact. Ah, a historian in our midst! Well played. (golf clap)

59

It's not "hypocrisy"... it's having standards and failing to meet them.

Which is human.

It's also not necessarily something to look down upon.  If someone fails and keeps trying, we should applaud them.  Or at least be neutral about it.

Failing and not trying again... that's what should be frowned upon.

60 "in Europe, something like this would be no big deal."
===

Even stipulating that European politics is some sort of "gold standard" we should aspire to, I don't think this is true, at all.

Sex scandals definitely do occur in Europe and bring down European politicians.  We see that all the time.

61 Where are, exactly, these Democrats who don't hold up a stable family headed by loving, faithful parents as the ideal?

Well, to be fair, there's Barney Frank.

62 Not enough bad things can happen to Weiner or (Schumer for that matter) and I'm actively rooting for that outcome.

The problem is that they are not talking to, or representing us. Their people are the people of the lie that is the Left, and until they go down in flames or go to jail, our way of life and the freedom s that enrich it will be at risk.

This was just a little reminder that the opposition that we're dealing with isn't just a different point of view, it is a darkly dangerous and malignant life form that is alien to the free minded people on the Right.

63

Democrats:  It is easy to never be a hypocrite when you have the moral equivalence of a dog in heat.

As a dog lover, I was going to say "alley cat," but the principle is the same.

64 "Single with Buttsex & Drugs" platform ? ----- Ace already has that for his run against Weiner in the 9th CD. The election night party will be EPIC.

65

What happened to NO BLOOD FOR OIL that was continually chanted during Bush's administration? Where are they?

Obama escalated the war in Afghanistan. There are still 50,000 troops in Iraq. Obama decided to freeze assets from Ghadaffi and then decided, without Congressional approval, to drop bombs on Libya. He has since decided to freeze assets from Assad in Syria (first step before invasion, like Libya). Obama said "yes" to assassinating Bin Laden. Then there's Guantanamo Bay. And the Patriot Act extention he signed. Where are the anti-war folks? Where is the anti-war media? Where are the protests? Where are the anti-CIAers? Where are the op-eds? Where is the anti-Big Brother outrage from the left? Where did it all go?

Whether you are for or against the actions above the opposite treatments of Bush vs. Obama on war in the Middle East by the left is truly amazing.

66 See, I'm OK because I never SAID that people shouldn't waste taxpayer's money on tweeting dickpix to random Twitter fans and setting up meetups with Vegas faro dealers while on the government's dime. And when caught I never said you shouldn't lie your ass off about it. Plus, I had Bill Clinton officiate at my wedding! 'Love, honor, and be faithful to for AH HA HA HA (wheeze) sorry Tony, Huma, let's try that again!' Geez, do I have to paint it on billboards or something?

67 #69

But you don't understand.
He has a NOBEL PEACE PRIZE, man.

68 Find out if they think professional wrestling is real, if so we should really let them off with a "Ricky Retardo" pass.

69 Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 07, 2011 06:30 PM (1yViP) Interesting point. The cry of "hypocrisy" from a Dem comes from, in their minds, a superior elite mentality. They think of themselves as our betters and masters, so us unwashed bitter-clingers are to be seen and not heard and we are to obey for our own good.

70

OT:

Yale University last week killed the Yale Initiative for the Interdisciplinary Study of Antisemitism -- the only program of its kind in the country, an academically stellar one-stop anti-Semitism research shop. Worse, it almost certainly did so because YIISA refused to ignore the most virulent, genocidal and common form of Jew-hatred today: Muslim anti-Semitism.

71 Well, to be fair, there's Barney Frank.

Barney likes to use the line that the pro-life movement's concern for children ends at birth. The truth of it is, Rep Frank doesn't give a tinker's fart about children, has never done anything in his life on the behalf of a child. His version of 'caring' is absorbing as much of the economy as possible into the bookkeeping rabbit-hole of government.

72 Even stipulating that European politics is some sort of "gold standard" we should aspire to, I don't think this is true, at all.

Sex scandals definitely do occur in Europe and bring down European politicians.  We see that all the time.



Wasn't there some European dude recently who pretty much shit the bed with his "career limiting move" of raping hotel maids?  Professional and political career up in smoke?  It seems so familiar....

I wonder if he sent Wiener a thank you note?

73 The Dems are hypocrites in other ways, too.

Which party is it that likes to refer to women as whores and sluts whenever they don't like them?  Well, that would be the Democratic party, the party that supposedly respects women.

And, which prominent politician got his girlfriend pregnant (okay, aside from Arnold)? Why, that would be John Edwards, from the party that preaches about sexual responsibility and birth control.

74 37

Stand by your man ...

75 So did Breitbart prove or disprove the argument that Weiner's peculiar behavior with regard to a potential breach of systems security left Weiner open to blackmail and thereby compromised Weiner's security qualifications and need-to-know?

Yes? No? Maybe?   Fuck it:  Andy, release the rest of the evidence and remove the impetus on the Left to call you a vindictive piece of shit.

In the interests of Truth and Justice.

76

Yes.  It started as the French Revolution.  That is the sort of insanity that affects the Western left, these days.  They are, and see themselves as, the heirs to Robespierre.

Exactly. Robespierre is the key. That cocksucker first promulgated the "noble savage" bullshit that was the impetus for so much leftist claptrap, i.e., "return to nature Luddism and the notion that all evils arise from society, not from man's intrinsic nature. Change society --> change man (New Socialist Man would do nicely) --> eliminate evil.

What childish crap.

77 Just turn it around. We as Republicans have better sex with our wives than do Dems because we actually marry for love, unlike Weiner, who has apparently entered into a marriage of convenience (his and Hillary's).

78  a pooter-hound

Is this a cross with a bassett & weiner dog.

79 >>Yeah...but you never answered why?

The media treat dems differently because they are them.When Weiner got into trouble, the MSM covered for him because they believed what he said unconditionally, he said it was a hack and presto it was a hack, and they also wanted to protect one of their own, someone who's values they share, someone who is for the little people whether the little people like it or not.

80 #78 Wasn't there some European dude recently who pretty much shit the bed with his "career limiting move" of raping hotel maids?  Professional and political career up in smoke?  It seems so familiar....
===

Yeah, but was he a hypocrite about it?

No.  He never said rape was wrong, and he's been sexually harassing women for years.   So its perfectly OK.

81 This is the philosophical foundation of the "hypocrisy" position vis a vis the media double standard in reporting sex scandals of D's vs. R's : Immorality is justifiable so long as the perpetrator does not espouse morality.

Own it, fucktards.

82 J.J. Sefton@75,

No question it's a power play. Statism is the essence of control, and to be accused of hijacking it (control) -- which really is to be discovered for doing it -- is the biggest threat to retaining power. So the Statist goes proactive as a defense mechanism: "I want to keep ordering you to do stuff that, of course, I won't follow; so, my state of hypocrisy must continue... but I'll charge you with hypocrisy as often as possible first because, to me, it's such a damaging charge. Surely it's just as damaging a charge to you."

At least that's my running hypothesis so far.

83 If Weiner wasn't running in some way, spoken or unspoken, on morality, then he wouldn't have fucking apologized for being a worthless teen-assgrabbing sack of shit.

Eat it, MFM. Eat every last morsel, you stupid fucks.

84 Yeah, but was he a hypocrite about it?

No.  He never said rape was wrong, and he's been sexually harassing women for years.   So its perfectly OK.


My comment was in response to the "in Europe it wouldn't be a big deal", not necessarily the hypocrisy angle.

85

OT, but media-related.

 

Why is asshole David Gergen considered an astute political observer and sage?

 

This guy is fucking wrong more often than Charles Johnson for pete's sake.

 

And he's a squishy follower of conventional wisdom.  Boring.  Stupid.  Ugly.

 

Only on CNN.

86 Every man lives a bit in a fantasy world, maybe women, too, but I know nothing of them. Every man is a boy, either in mind or in deed

Every time I read this, it gets worse.  Richard Cohen, you are a Total POS

87 Regarding Titus, He needs to get his ass beat for that comment on wanting to JFK Palin from a grassy knoll. Seriously. I would gladly do it myself too. We just got done with the whole Gabby Giffords incident and this cocksmoker is making explicit threats about shooting a female political figure. Chris Titus, I hope you never find work again. May you find yourself a victim in one of Ace's fugue induced hobo murdering sprees. Fuck off and die.

88

What's worse anyway?

 

Sending pictures of your junk to young strangers or being a hypocrite?

 

 

89

Only on CNN.

You know what I think of CNN? It's the reason I have to hit the channel button twice to get from A&E to ESPN.

90 two words... Mark Foley... the libs crucified him and he was gay. and he was doing the same thing Weiner was.

91

Yes.  It started as the French Revolution.  That is the sort of insanity that affects the Western left, these days.  They are, and see themselves as, the heirs to Robespierre.

Exactly. Robespierre is the key. That cocksucker first promulgated the "noble savage" bullshit that was the impetus for so much leftist claptrap, i.e., "return to nature Luddism and the notion that all evils arise from society, not from man's intrinsic nature. Change society --> change man (New Socialist Man would do nicely) --> eliminate evil.

What childish crap.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 07, 2011 06:40 PM (ap/w5)

OT:  A pretty good book for the "young adult" female crowd is Revolution by Jennifer Donnelly.  It is filled with a bunch of contemporary teenage angst plus a parallel story of a teenage girl in revolutionary France as told in her journal found by the primary teenager while researching a French composer.  There is a bit of a Twilight Zone / X Files ending.  It would be a good book if you are trying to find something for your teenage daughter to read this summer. Robespierre and the revolution generally are portrayed as less than the stellar example of human dignity and rights that the French would like to believe that it was.

92 Sending pictures of your junk to young strangers or being a hypocrite?

Not sure. What's you Twitter handle?

93 I have never seen a need to run on any kind of famawey vah-wues and I get ewected evewy time.

94 Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at June 07, 2011 06:47 PM (J4Pnx)

It irks me whenever "Europe" is held up as a paragon of civilized behavior.

They stink for the most part; I will take America's fascination with hygiene, thank you very much.

They have no moral background since they lost any connection to religion.

They tend not to like people like me (I am Jewish).

They tend to be afraid of and submissive to people who enjoy raping and killing in the name of religion.

On the other hand, they are really good cooks and their old buildings are pretty.

95

"They are really good cooks and their old buildings are pretty."

 

Old Europe baby.

96 The hypocrisy distinction

And yet we stupidly fall for it every time

97 Keith Owhatshisname is on Fresh Air. Really bad news is he is coming back.

98 I'm still upset no one is sending Andy Rooney in with a black light.

99 On the other hand, they are really good cooks and their old buildings are pretty.

Maybe modern Europe has a use, after all:

World's largest theme park!

100 @97 Paul Johnson in "Intellectuals" does a pretty smackdown of Robespierre also, confirming my worst opinions of him.

101 I believe even  clintons? that family values and even spiritual (church attendance was also done by Dems.
also that women were to be treated with respect and not boy toys.
also that women wanted gvt out of their uterus and hands off their bodies.cough
also they hat fat cats while making their chosen fat cats billions of bucks
they hate business unless it is their chosen  one
they hate suvs and gas guzzlers unless they are using them to get to their meetings 
they want everyone to cut back on electric, gas,  but not themselves.cut back on water , but they love their golf courses

etc, etc  everyone can add to the list of Dem hypocrisy

of course they do embellish truth.
they don't seem to be for much of anything but taking power/money away from swaths of people for themselves.

102 Rousseau came up with the 'noble savage' meme, but Robespierre was an avid follower .  The contempt for the reasonable limits of civilization are strong in both.

The modern Left wants to get rid of any source of authority for anyone they see  as a rival

103 And, which prominent politician got his girlfriend pregnant (okay, aside from Arnold)?

I think it was Joy Behar interviewing Rosie O'Donnell discussing the Arnold where they agreed that despite his relation by marraige, this adultery disqualified him from being a Kennedy.  And of course they were right.  Arnold didn't leave a trail of dead girls.

104 Robespierre is the key. That cocksucker first promulgated the "noble savage" bullshit that was the impetus for so much leftist claptrap, i.e., "return to nature Luddism and the notion that all evils arise from society, not from man's intrinsic nature. Change society --> change man (New Socialist Man would do nicely) --> eliminate evil. Posted by: Jay Guevara

Crap indeed, but I think that was Rousseau, non?

105 I cannot accept any “family values” platform from a party that does not recognize a woman’s right to choose, sorry.  Only over my dead body will such a basic right be taken from the women and girls of this country. I’ll be voting for Democrats like Anthony Weiner no matter how reprehensible their personal conduct may seem to me.  They are much more understanding of the similarly personal conduct, reprehensible to some, that women used to have to resort to back alleys to pursue.     Too bad you (guys) can’t grasp what real “hypocrisy” is.  It’s again and again running on a promise to “help the children,” yet forcing more unwanted children to come into the world to be abused and starved by their unfit parents.  It’s being sanctimonious about respect for “life”, yet letting a woman die with a coat hanger between her legs. Weiner’s ejaculate is far better left on his computer screen that in the womb of an uncaring mother.  It’s good and decent of him to take a public stand against forced childbirth, and shameful of the Republicans to support it while expressing horror over masturbating.  If Weiner resigns, hypocrisy and not honesty will have trimuphed.

106 Far too longwinded. Write better, Ace.

107

I've had people tell me I'm a hypocrite for prohibiting my kids from doing stupid and possibly illegal things that teenagers do sometimes that I may have done in my younger days.

 

My reply is basically, "Yeah, so the fuck what?"

108 The other problem with this is that making a mockery of marriage actually undermines the importance of marriage. How vital can it be to give someone the ability to marry if being married means so little to the person making the argument?

109

Maybe modern Europe has a use, after all:

World's largest theme park!

I lived in Europe for many years, and used to say exactly that.

And as for beautiful old buildings, sure; but their non-touristy areas are every bit as grimy and depressing as ours.

110

I've always liked Neal Stephenson's take on hypocrisy: (Sorry long, but good)

 

 

"

You know, when I was a young man, hypocrisy was deemed the worst of vices,” Finkle-McGraw said. “It was all because of moral relativism. You see, in that sort of a climate, you are not allowed to criticise others-after all, if there is no absolute right and wrong, then what grounds is there for criticism? … Now, this led to a good deal of general frustration, for people are naturally censorious and love nothing better than to criticise others’ shortcomings. And so it was that they seized on hypocrisy and elevated it from a ubiquitous peccadillo into the monarch of all vices. For, you see, even if there is no right and wrong, you can find grounds to criticise another person by contrasting what he has espoused with what he has actually done. In this case, you are not making any judgment whatsoever as to the correctness of his views or the morality of his behaviour-you are merely pointing out that he has said one thing and done another. Virtually all political discourse in the days of my youth was devoted to the ferreting out of hypocrisy.
Â…
We take a somewhat different view of hypocrisy,” Finkle-McGraw continued. “In the late-twentieth-century Weltanschauung, a hypocrite was someone who espoused high moral views as part of a planned campaign of deception-he never held these beliefs sincerely and routinely violated them in privacy. Of course, most hypocrites are not like that. Most of the time it’s a spirit-is-willing, flesh-is-weak sort of thing.”

“That we occasionally violate our own stated moral code,” Major Napier said, working it through, “does not imply that we are insincere in espousing that code.”

“Of course not,” Finkle-McGraw said. “It’s perfectly obvious, really. No one ever said that it was easy to hew to a strict code of conduct. Really, the difficulties involved-the missteps we make along the way-are what make it interesting. The internal, and eternal, struggle, between our base impulses and the rigorous demands of our own moral system is quintessentially human. It is how we conduct ourselves in that struggle that determines how we may in time be judged by a higher power.”

-The Diamond Age

111

#111

sock

112 They hate us and they lie. It's really that simple.

113 you give good h**d? i've been told really good...I love doing it wow a jewish girl who sucks c***! this thing is ready to do damage and swallows every drop. god damn how do I get you here to f*** me? <= thinking about gagging your hot mouth with my c*** to get us in the mood. first we watch back to back episodes of the daily show and colbert reportÂ…then, to really spice things up we go deface all of my neighbor's sharon angle yard signsÂ…then when we are really hot we go to the bookstore and cover all of the glen beck books with copies of "the audacity of hope!"Â…i do this about once a week (you can tell i am a very exciting girl!)Â…or if this i not your thing, we can just get drunk and have mad, passionate sex! why choose? with me behind you can't we both watch daily show? Hhaha! seeÂ…you are always thinking! you are so rightÂ…aahhh the perfect liberal evening! i hear liberal girls are very, uh, accommodating of others of course! it is all about taking care of the little guy! little?! ouch. you'd be surprised how big' I know this lady in Vegas.... see radar

114 If do right, no defense

115 Obama Doctrine
- destruction of the family
- destruction of society
- destruction of capitalism (for conservatives)
- destruction of our economy

116 "And as for beautiful old buildings, sure; but their non-touristy areas are every bit as grimy and depressing as ours." Yeah, the buildings as pretty when you're being stabbed in the neck with a dirty heroin needle.

117

@110 Crap indeed, but I think that was Rousseau, non?

Yes, of course. I meant Rousseau, not Robespierre. Thank you.

118 The hypocrisy distinction indeed.

I recall Ted Kennedy being seen as a faithful (if not exactly "devout) Catholic.  I was pretty young when he dumped Joan (his seriously alcoholic wife), and then petitioned the Pope for an annulment.  It was all very exotic Henry VIII kind of stuff to a whitebread Presbyterian kid from Connecticut.

I guess Ted made up for his failings by being an outstanding father.  In fact, I know for a fact that he took his nephews on spring break until they were well into their 20s.

119 Oh goody, a fucking troll at 111.

Gets the popcorn out.

120  A sex scandal  for a lib is a rite of passage. Plain and simple.

121 Too bad you (guys) canÂ’t grasp what real “hypocrisy” is.  ItÂ’s again and again running on a promise to “help the children,” yet forcing more unwanted children to come into the world to be abused and starved by their unfit parents.  ItÂ’s being sanctimonious about respect for “life”, yet letting a woman die with a coat hanger between her legs
trueprolifemom

so you are saying those that have abortions would  likely be unfit parents.
interesting.
still coat hangers? heck

122 This is the Dan Quayle legacy.

123

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 07, 2011 06:52 PM (LH6ir)

Aside from the nukes, which I don't want the Muslims to get, I'm pretty fine with Europe crashing and burning. Once the Euro collapses, I still expect to see either an ethnic cleansing of Islam throughout the EU or battles in the streets as welfare dries up and the battles to take over happen.

Either way, no help for them. Hopefully a few will turn into men and survive the battles. I'm sick of the entire socialist, welfare state crap. Let it burn. 

124 62

It's not "hypocrisy"... it's having standards and failing to meet them.

Which is human.

It's also not necessarily something to look down upon.  If someone fails and keeps trying, we should applaud them.  Or at least be neutral about it.

Failing and not trying again... that's what should be frowned upon.

You're so right!  I've got to get back on the horse that bucked me or I'll never be able to look in the mirror the same way - and I looooove doing that.  This time, I'm going to keep all my extramarital cyber, phone, and real sex completely secret!

125

Playing Devil's Advocate here:

(1) Europe may make the best pop music in the world. It's certainly better than  ours.

(2) ...

No, just (1). That's it.

126 _{Too bad you (guys) canÂ’t grasp what real “hypocrisy” is.  ItÂ’s again and again running on a promise to “help the children,” yet forcing more unwanted children to come into the world to be abused and starved by their unfit parents.  ItÂ’s being sanctimonious about respect for “life”, yet letting a woman die with a coat hanger between her legs. WeinerÂ’s ejaculate is far better left on his computer screen that in the womb of an uncaring mother.}

For the love of a child, you would deny it the chance to ever take a breath? You are devoid of logic and compassion.

You idolize "choice", yet the person most effected by this decision has no say. You are lacking as a human being.

127 Nobel prize winning economist rules out double dip recession.

Whew!  I am so relieved... Nobel prize.  They donÂ’t just give those away you know.

128 Hypocrisy distinction? Democrats make me sick. They're the ones always making like they're the morally superior ones: Rush Limbaugh has been divorced three times but Al Franken has been married to the same snaggle toothed hag for forty years. John McCain left his crippled wife but John Edwards takes his lovely wife Elizabeth to Wendys every year for their anniversary. Rush Limbaugh has been divorced three times but the book Love Story is based on the real life story of Al and Tipper Gore. Vermin, VERMIN.

129

You know the one question during Breitbart's Weiner press conference that is illustrative of this is the one from the douche "Is this payback for Chris Lee?"

Now, why would he think of that angle, why would he have the notion in his mind?

Is he thinking that, of course, we destroyed Chris Lee, just like we destroy all the other Republicans, and Breitbart is using HIS media to counter-attack.

This ideology is all over the media. They are incompetent jagoffs.

130 Posted by: TrueProLifeMom at June 07, 2011 06:56 PM (ywMlo)

Average Joe, are you at it again?

131 Posted by: TrueProLifeMom at June 07, 2011 06:56 PM (ywMlo)

That has got to be the most mind numbingly gay as fuck retarded pile of liquid shit I have ever read in my life. In other words, Average Joe, is that you? I know that's you, you sly, deceitful bastard.

132 One would hope future wives partners mothers of Dems would see the writing on the wall. children are only for photo ops i guess, and fidelity is only when i agree.and yes you can make sure gramma takes a pill instead of getting life saving surgery. cause it's all for the children that werent aborted, unless they are down's children of course

133

with a coat hanger between her legs


Now do you stupid fuckers get it?  I said NO WIRE HANGERS!!!!

134 Oh goody, a fucking troll at 111.

Gets the popcorn out.

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at June 07, 2011 07:00 PM (J4Pnx)

I'm going with sock.

We'll find out is he/she/it argues back.

135

"It’s again and again running on a promise to “help the children,” yet forcing more unwanted children to come into the world to be abused and starved by their unfit parents."

Welp, here is a person who defends the practices of Kermit Gosnell.

I'm glad you just came out and did that, I suspect you aren't alone, at all.

Demented bastards.

136

That's because liberals equate "values" with "religion," and they see religious people as Elmer Gantry clones.

There was a clip from The Big Lebowski on YouTube and a commenter, in a fit of spittle-flecked rage, talked about how the Liam character was so sleezy and "probably attended a Southern Baptist church." All of this about a peripheral character who never so much as speaks in the movie, much less offers a religious viewpoint.

137 Yes, willow, people recognize their limitations and choose not to have children. And yes, a desperate woman will do anything if she thinks it will result in a brighter future for herself and her real, born children.

138

I'm going with sock.

We'll find out is he/she/it argues back.

Quick google shows that hash posted on a Palin thread back in January.

Other than that, I didn't see any regular postings for the hash.

139 WeinerÂ’s ejaculate is far better left on his computer screen that in the womb of an uncaring mother.

That was hardly the option here, shit-for-brains.

STRAWMAN FAIL. Please proceed to Fuckwit Jail. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200.

140

My reply is basically, "Yeah, so the fuck what?"

Posted by: Dave at June 07, 2011 06:57 PM (HPcQF)

I hear that shit from one of our brats. My answer is always, "Do as I say, not as I do."

Then she says, "that's not fair!" And then I use your line.

141 And yes, a desperate woman will do anything if she thinks it will result in a brighter future for herself and her real, born children.

Posted by: TrueProLifeMom at June 07, 2011 07:06 PM (ywMlo)

heh, alright.

You know my spouse drives me to distraction and i would love to have a brighter future. maybe i should wack em eh?

142 I'd like a brighter future too.

Where do I sign to abort Ben Bernanke?

143 Yeah, fuck 'em. Fuck 'em all. The only thing to fight it is to support right-wing media and, as much as you can, boycott left-wing media.

Take out their legs. Destroy their revenue stream. Burn down the foundations of their business model. Destroy their livelihood. They have to face real consequences otherwise they won't change their behavior. Reward your friends, punish your enemies.

And some real world anti-left discrimination works, too.

So much info is public these days. It's easy to find out if somebody is a left-wing asshole or if they donated money to Obama. It's easy then to not do business with them, to not hire them, to not promote them.

The left does this -- and it works. My left-wing friends are much more public on Facebook with their politics. They aren't worried a future employer will hold their left-wing views against them. My right-wing friends are worried, for example, that publicly opposing gay marriage can come back to haunt them -- and are much less vocal as a result.

People respond to incentives.

144 Quick google shows that hash posted on a Palin thread back in January.

Other than that, I didn't see any regular postings for the hash.

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at June 07, 2011 07:06 PM (J4Pnx)

Dayum! Your Google-fu is strong!

145 Uncaring unfit mother. Sounds like either the Government or a Democrat demographic segment to me.

Also, if it is Average Joe, you suck.

146 Quick google shows that hash posted on a Palin thread back in January.

Other than that, I didn't see any regular postings for the hash.
Posted by: mpurinTexas

With a Pro-Palin comment so...

The Shimano reel goes whizzzzzzzzzzzzzz-snag!

147

Stay out of my bedroom you stupid hypocritical regthuglicans !!!

148

#146

 

Yep, I've also used the "do as I say, not as  I do" line many times and when they tell me life isn't fair I say "Yes I know and the sooner you get used to that fact the better off you'll be."

149 "maybe i should wack em eh?" Sometimes you just wish that evil candy man from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang was real.

150 Posted by: TrueProLifeMom at June 07, 2011 07:06 PM (ywMlo)

I know my life would sure be a lot better if I murdered my asshole boss and a few others who shit on my life if I could do so legally.

So I guess that's ok too?

Really, you HAVE to be a sock puppet, because otherwise you would seriously have to be the biggest dingleberry, yeast infested vayjayjay to ever grace the halls of AoS. Just, WOW.

151 Posted by: TrueProLifeMom at June 07, 2011 07:06 PM (ywMlo)

So, how desperate are you? Do you have a twitter account?

152 There are a lot of Hypocritical Democrats that are not out there running around with their gay lovers, marrying their gay partners, sleeping with teenage boys and girls, smoking a lot of pot, doing coke, running sex shops, making porn movies, having abortions, and lets not forget, having illegals working for them on their Congressinal staffs.

We know how they are for all these things and since they dont we dont see them doing this stuff, then they are hypocrites.

153 Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at June 07, 2011 07:06 PM (J4Pnx)

I noticed that. I think it's a drive-by troll.

By the way, I always check. I have been burned too many times by you fuckers and your finely tuned socks.

154 Posted by: TrueProLifeMom

Gosnell? Is that you? You sound like an amoral-enough sack of shit for it to be.

155

The biggest pile and most dangerous form of hypocrisy has been the democrats' cries of "We support the troops, not their mission."

 

Fuck those pricks.

156 More of the double standard that kills R's and conservatives all the time.They are simply graded on the curve,all the time,in all areas.It's great being beloved by a big,important sector of society.(you can lose that love of course like Joe Leiberman).

157

Stay out of my bedroom you stupid hypocritical regthuglicans !!!

Posted by: Mary Flogginmine -- Proud Resident of Bratsonburros, VT at June 07, 2011 07:10 PM (j/Wpi)

uh hmm, I'm sure Hillary was glad for lewinsky and Huma thrilled  that some other woman wanted to be in her partners bed.

i know there were consenting adults involved yet, also there was another that had been given a promise ..

of course unless all three partners were in agreement about open relationships, then it's all good.

158 In addition to boycotting their businesses and educating them on the many fine ideals that conservatism embodies, when you can, knee them in the balls in a crowd where you can claim it was an accident.

159

Grading on a curve?

 

Reminds me of the Sarah getting her history right being "wrong" or "not right enough" or "didn't express it clearly" etc etc.

 

Wish Ace would put a thread up about that.

160 and for g-ds sake change the sheets!

161

And keep your hands off that case of Cheetos under my bed !

162 heh- Mary
ya got me

163 "The "he never represented himself as anything except a pooter-hound" defense only gets trotted out when necessary."

Ace, this has to be in the running for your all time best line.  I literally read it to everyone around me.

164
I think it's time to move past Weinergate and on to Hillary/Huma. There has to be a reason that Weiner was Tweeting 7's when he was a newlywed to a 10.

165

None of your business why I had 3-phase 240 volt power lines run from garage to my bedroom rethugs !

166 So, now that we know that the left and the MBM (BIRM) are shallow, irrational hypocrites, WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT IT?

I mean, apart from repeatedly exposing them in our small circles as what they are, which is cathartic but doesn't seem to change much.

I don't have the answer, but we seem to be asking the wrong questions. We know what the problem is, we don't yet know the solution.

167 Oh yeah,that Titus dude.Never watched his show,just looked unfunny.Had nothing against him though,until now.He reveals what a hateful asshole he is.Duly noted.

168 Posted by: geoff at June 07, 2011 07:18 PM (kfRzh)

A 10??? what???? geoff when was the last time you visited your eye care professional?

169 Hitler? Wasn't a hypocrite.

170 Average Joe, are you at it again? I'd be at it all night if I didn't have to catch a bus: cAnnot accept oVer my dead bEe voting for Democrats aRe much more understanding bAd you (guys) aG bEing sanctimonious eJaculate is far better gOod and decent WEiner resigns

171 geoff yeah maybe  he was a crappy selfish lover and she lost interest.
i only blame that on him because He seems really involved with stroking his own ego.

172 average joe, excellant , doity bastid! got me again!

173 This is why weinergate is so important.  It's time to stand up and demand that the democrats not get special swept-under-the-rug treatment.

We got it with Weiner.  Now, let's get it for everyone else.  Politicians should no longer be able to hide under the media's skirts.

174 You know it's all about the infanticide. That's their sacrament. It doesn't matter what other things they care about or vote for, it's about the infanticide. They love the idea of being sexually promiscuous and not having any responsibility. You could flip the entire platforms except for that one thing--sexual responsibilty vs infanticide and they would in their bloodthirsty ghoulish glee head straight for the candidate who supported the abortion mills. Without it, they might have to close their legs or zip their zippers and we can't have that. 50% of the country defines themselves by their inability to curb their sexual appetite. It's stands to reason that they would be fine with a guy who couldn't restrain his own.

175 I also  think Huma is gorgeous. the stripper , not so much.

176 172 That,is the question.What indeed.

177 Need I say it?

178 Posted by: TrueProLifeMom at June 07, 2011 07:06 PM (ywMlo)

I am revising my previous strong opinions against random drug testing.

179 180 You know whio else loves infanticide?Satan.Just a coincidence I'm sure.

180 yeah, joe, the 'v' in the second sentence gave you away

181 Beauty is in the eye of the beholder I guess.  I thought he married like and kind.  someone suited to him.  I mean every guy I know thinks she's not a ten

182
A 10??? what???? geoff when was the last time you visited your eye care professional?

I'm sorry, I think she's a hottie.

geoff yeah maybe  he was a crappy selfish lover and she lost interest.

I think Occam's Razor comes into play once again - the 3-year old rumors about Hillary and Huma were correct.

183 Titus lost his show because he's a drunk and an abusive asshole who couldn't meet writing deadlines and refused to ask for editorial help or new writers to make his show funny.
Crew on TV shows talk. This Titus asshole is infamous as a shitbird.

He is playing the Kathy Griffin game.

184 105 On the other hand, they are really good cooks and their old buildings are pretty.

Maybe modern Europe has a use, after all:

World's largest theme park!

Posted by: fluffy at June 07, 2011 06:54 PM (SwkdU)

I'm going EuropeLand yaaaaaaaayyyyyy!

185 Posted by: TrueProLifeMom at June 07, 2011 07:20 PM (ywMlo)

I stand by my comment about drug testing.

Waaaaaay too much time on your hands.

186

The Left will use any argument, any rationale, any logic, to further their aims.

They have one goal: winning.

They don't even have to believe what they say. Just win, baby.

_{ANY MEANS TO THAT END.}

_{ANY. MEANS.}

It's a very effective strategy.

187

Think Obama is on-board with the infanticide thing, isn't he?

 

Think he voted against a Born Alive Act in the Illinois legislature.

188 Spirit Airlines Announce Weiner Sale.

http://tinyurl.com/6akj869

I am not kidding.  Bwhahahahah

h/t JammieWearingFool

189

The biggest pile and most dangerous form of hypocrisy has been the democrats' cries of "We support the troops, not their mission."

Cool. I support the gays, but detest their lifestyle.

Same thing.

190

Stupid nosy rethugs...

The good heavy-duty industrial concrete vibrators don't run on 2-phase 110 Volt power. 

191 Dammit, I liked Titus, at least what I have seen of him.  Are they all insane?

192 179 This is why weinergate is so important. It's time to stand up and demand that the democrats not get special swept-under-the-rug treatment.

Posted by: soulpile is... expendable at June 07, 2011 07:21 PM (afWhQ)

So we demand it and don't get it. Like the last thousand times. Then what?

Seriously, they're not going to cooperate. We need a plan.

193 geoff hair and makeup and the right lens and lighting can make nanny p look like a 10.

in person, the woman's not a 10, maybe not even a 5.  but he's no looker as my mom would say so they found each other.

194 198:

Blunt trauma.

195 Think he voted against a Born Alive Act in the Illinois legislature.


Oh no, he didn't vote against it.

He let it die on his desk so that it couldn't be voted on.

Much like how he let newborns die on shelves in hospital storage closets.

196
in person, the woman's not a 10, maybe not even a 5.

I wouldn't know - I just look at the pictures. Certainly she had more going for her than his Twitter pals.

197 201:

He'll be seeing those babies again in the fullness of his time. He may not believe in an afterlife, but decisions like that will come back on the people who make them.

198 Posts like these are why I keep coming back to this blog. Bring that hammer down Ace! You sir, are on fire!

199 I have to wonder how average joe can get into their heads so easily and accurately. It's a little distrubing.

200 180 You know whio else loves infanticide?Satan.Just a coincidence I'm sure.

Posted by: steevy at June 07, 2011 07:23 PM (+01MZ)

Dagny makes a good point and so do you. It's evil. Period.

How else can a rational human being explain it otherwise?

It's a bit disturbing to think that a third of the American people are so sick and twisted that infanticide isn't just to be merely tolerated but also to be endorsed and celebrated.

I don't throw the word "hate" around loosely, but well, you know.

201 I think Occam's Razor comes into play once again - the 3-year old rumors about Hillary and Huma were correct.

Weiner's a beard.

202 205 I have to wonder how average joe can get into their heads so easily and accurately. It's a little distrubing.

Posted by: dagny at June 07, 2011 07:29 PM (u8cj+)

He's a conservative man pretending to be a liberal woman.... pretending to be a conservative man pretending to be a liberal woman...

Not sure where the train stops on that line...

Actually, it's pretty easy to imitate a liberal, I'd do it but it puts me off my food.

203 About hypocrisy. When and how did we Republicans get the reputation that we hate sex and having fun?

All the liberals I've been forced to associate with are always miserable, sulking smacktards. With very few exceptions, all the conservative folks I know love to have a good time. Men and women both.

I was never taught that fun or lving life to the fullest was wrong. Where does that come from?

People watching Footloose too many times?

204 207 I think Occam's Razor comes into play once again - the 3-year old rumors about Hillary and Huma were correct.

Weiner's a beard.

And an ugly one at that.

Did you see the wedding picture?  She doesn't look all that radiant or happy about the whole thing. She looks like she wants to hang herself.

205 how average joe can get into their heads so easily and accurately. It's a little distrubing.

Posted by: dagny at June 07, 2011 07:29 PM (u8cj+)

My head is impervious to average joe.......unless he's downwind. 

Trolls don't hardly come here any more, because of the reception they know they'll get. 

206
Did you see the wedding picture?  She doesn't look all that radiant or happy about the whole thing. She looks like she wants to hang herself.

Posted by: mpfs at June 07, 2011 07:32 PM (iYbLN)

well you saw the weiner so you know why now.

207 ed anger is also really great at socking

208 very similar style.

209 210:

Anthony and Huma look like well-dressed rats who just got done eating a lemon in their wedding photo.

They both have the look of nasty-ass underground sex club types.

210 I don't like talking about Evil and Satan because it puts people off but I really see the correlation.Witchcraft almost always involved abortion and infanticide(I mean REAL witchcraft,not crazy Wicca)..People don't have to be evil to let evil be done,though some are (Gosnell,Joe Tiller).

211
Weiner's a beard.

I suspect that's true. Which means that with a bit more pushing, we can reveal both the mockery they've made of the institution of marriage, and the secret life of our Secretary of State.

212 Weiner's a beard.

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at June 07, 2011 07:30 PM (J4Pnx)

Reverse beard; very odd; creepy; disturbing.  Weiner gets to sex-talk freely while Huma works behind The Scenes ( whatever and wherever that is )

213 211 Or they come in,drop their load and run.

214 The hard-left has no soul. They have no honor. They aren't people and shouldn't be treated as such. They claimed it was all a Breitbart hack literally up to the minute when Weiner admitted everything. At which point they simply pivoted and start making new accusations. The most we got from them is a few moments of silence while they regrouped and reloaded. Colbert's piece on the Weiner scandal was mainly a hit-piece on Breitbart -- claiming Breitbart lied about ACORN, Sherrod, and Planned Parenthood and was now 1 for 4. It doesn't matter how many times you rub their face in their own shit, they won't change. They know they are lying. They aren't trying to find the truth. They are trying to win. They are trying to impose their will on the country. That's it. There are no rules. They will say, literally, anything they think will work. Any weapon at hand. Logic doesn't matter. Evidence doesn't matter. Contradictions don't matter. Past statements don't matter. Trying to shame them into becoming better people is an exercise in futility. You can't shame a whore.

215 209 About hypocrisy. When and how did we Republicans get the reputation that we hate sex and having fun?

Posted by: sifty at June 07, 2011 07:31 PM (2dbd9)

MBM reality and liberal reality are pretty much the same place - the inside of their heads, filled with bigoted preconceptions that reinforce their premature conclusions about the world.

I have had liberals angrily confront me out of nowhere over positions I don't hold - MORE THAN ONCE (the same person), because their preconceptions outrank observed reality.

Honestly, I try to interact with them as little as possible in real life because they're so relentlessly irrational.

They have to be, or they would reject their own philosophy, it's bone-shatteringly simple.

216 218 Behind Hillary's baloney curtains?(sorry for the image,couldn't resist)

217 Breitbart's target is the 'news' media, not Weiner, Sherrod, or ACORN. This is why leftist-progressive-marxist-socialist-liberal-communist Democrats fear/hate him so much. The 'news' media is the fundamental base of their power, and Breitbart is having success in attacking it.

218 216:

Evil, as a force, undoubtedly exists. Sure as gravity and inertia.
We crack that code, and then science will be getting somewhere.

My guess is the solution to the mystery isn't lying on a sofa talking about Mom.

219 221 Roger Staubach used to say "I enjoy sex as much as anybody else,I just enjoy it with my wife."This was back in the 70's with swingers at qb like Joe Namath and he was seen as a fuddy duddy.

220

I was thinking about their hypocrisy defense this morning. It's a red herring. No one runs on "I'm an ugly pervert". Of course that argument can always be answered with "What do you  think Algore's carbon footprint might be?, Hmmm?"

Conservatives are way more fun than libtards. Libtards think that indescriminate sex with strangers is the end all and be all of fun. Sorry, but being nervous about STDs is not my idea of a good time. Neither is having an Addadictomy.

221

When and how did we Republicans get the reputation that we hate sex and having fun?

Posted by: sifty at June 07, 2011 07:31 PM (2dbd9)

Rhetorical, yes?

The problem is that our version of fun isn't a tolerant, cocaine-fueled BDSM orgy.

222

There is something here that reaches toward the core belief of American nanny statists, socialists, progressives, all Democrats, many Republicans, most women and many men of today.  There is something about children and the emotions they invoke that lead even the most cynical politicians and political parties to eventually use them metaphorically or literally in campaigns over issues and elections. The quoted statements are throwaway lines as used by politicians, but worry about children is universal, and very real.

I hope someone can more accurately state what IÂ’m going to try and describe. I think IÂ’m right in this.

 Children deserve protection. This postulate is accepted by all human societies. I have spent some years in Southwest Asia, and many other years working and living with Central and South Americans. In these cultures, the tribe, family, grandfather, father and oldest brother fill a traditional role as social arbiter, referee and protector of family values. State government help is not expected or desired, and would be considered unwanted interference. Family matters, including childrenÂ’s issues, are settled by families.

 These cultures are seen by Americans as backwards, and in many ways they are. In many cultures decisions about employment, spouse and domicile are made by the tribe and family, directly or through unbelievable peer pressure. In America, we are all about individuals being all they can be, no matter their tribal or family background, religion or ethnicity, and I celebrate that most important distinction between America and the rest of the world.

 But it seems to me that as individual rights and diversity become more important in America, family influence wanes. As traditional family influences and pressures disappear, fatherless children, homeless children, children living in poverty, child criminals, uneducated children and abused children do proportionally increase.

 In these ‘backwardÂ’ societies, parents who refuse to properly care for their children will be pressured relentlessly by the family elders to step up. The family takes care of itself to avoid being socially stigmatized- shamed- the most powerful motivator in tribal cultures.

 In a society (such as ours) where fathers and mothers donÂ’t always fill their responsibilities, a culture where shame has gradually been spun from a punishment to a type of victimhood,  the relentless pressures of raising children in fatherless families have pushed Americans to view the government as a surrogate father, filling the role of provider and protector. These misguided citizens deserve what they receive.

 My point is this.

 Government is taking the place of tribe,  family and father in the minds of the sheeple.

 Those of us who wish to provide for and protect our own families (me, for example), are standing against the socialist/progressive tide.  It might take a village to raise your kids, but not mine.  IÂ’m still here, not as a conservative or Republican but as a free American man, and I hope your readers are, too.

 

223 224 Oh yeah but a large segment of society does not believe it(well,maybe deep inside but not outwardly).The devils best trick,getting people to not believe he exsts.

224 When and how did we Republicans get the reputation that we hate sex and having fun?

When we said we're also responsible for the aftermath of our actions.

225

You know what - let them claim exemption from moral issues.  It's fair, since they often argue against traditional morality.  However, they should be doubleplus fucked on government corruption/incompetence matters, since they preach gummint as the cure to all ills, and claim to stand for the little guy (in direct opposition to the GOP, who they say represent the corrupt fat cats).

So, a trade then: the Left gets a pass on moral issues and gets shithammered on corruption issues; the Right gets a pass on corruption issues, but gets the shithammer on moral transgressions.

226 221:

Get a liberal out alone somewhere shooting or hunting or four-wheeling or drinkin beer. Eatin BBQ and bullshitting. They revert to sanity almost every time. Some even change their lifestyles.

Hippie women go nuts out in the desert with guns.

When they get back in a herd they go fuckin bananas again. It's like pheromones of emo-stupid.

227 Behind Hillary's baloney curtains?(sorry for the image,couldn't resist)

Posted by: steevy at June 07, 2011 07:37 PM (+01MZ)

That's the 'opening scene'.............  

what's that fancy word for the beginning of operas?  Fandango? 

228 I'm with you on the evil. It's so obvious that most overlook it. In fact, it's hard to think of anything MORE evil.

229

Trying out Occam's Razor –

 

Here are a collection of basic facts:

1) There are a relatively small number of big media corporations that employ the vast majority of the people you rant about.  2) Some media corporations are part of larger conglomerates such as Viacom or GE, or are the direct beneficiaries of big money interests such as George Soros.  3) Large corporations and billionaires got their money somehow, and are not generally known for their complete failure to care how the people they pay perform to get their individual paychecks.  4)  GE and others pay their media hacks a hell of a lot more than they pay their janitors.  (Put more simply, GE will fire janitors that donÂ’t do a good enough job of cleaning the place.  Is it reasonable to believe they have no expectations for their media hacks?  By now, we can tell ratings are not how their performance is being measured back in the boardroom.)

 

5)  All large conglomerates doing business in the U.S. must be at least somewhat involved in U.S. politics to ensure their own survival -- whether they want to or not – simply because they are just too easy of a target.  6) There are some smart folks that believe in the wisdom of “keep your friends close and your enemies closer.”  7) Some politicians are for sale and can be bought.  (Some say you can tell the honest ones because they <i>stay</i> bought.)

 

HereÂ’s one possible (not guaranteed, IÂ’m speculating) basic extrapolation from the preceding collection of facts --  Those folks that took time to pay for the politicians they own do not want to see their investment in those politicians diminished through loss of power, prestige, resignation, failure to be re-elected, etc.  They are also paying substantial bucks for their media hacks, who they can fire at will.  Why wouldnÂ’t they employ one of their resources (their media hacks) to protect their investment in another resource (the politicians they bought [perhaps they were purchased just with the currency of favorable media coverage])?

 

HereÂ’s another application of Occam's Razor – if you want to get your media hack to favor the politician you own, hire the true believer.  Useful idiots are easier to control and more convincing than whores.

230 Posted by: dr kill at June 07, 2011 07:40 PM (le5qc)

Individualism doesn't need to entail replacing social pressure with legal strictures. Kind of the opposite, the movement to do so comes almost entirely from very, VERY non-individualistic circles.

i.e. Cloward, Piven, Alinsky, etc. etc. etc.

And of course their predecessors, but the last big wave of the 80s, centered in Chicago, continues to today.

231

224 That's the entire premise of C.S. Lewis' "The Screwtape Letters".

Lull them into thinking evil doesn't exist.

232

Posted by: steevy at June 07, 2011 07:35 PM (+01MZ)

I agree totally.

I'm a Christian (not a very good one) and while I'm not particularly superstitious, one of my rules is that you DO NOT fuck with the occult.

I don't pretend to know everything religious but I know bad news when I see it.

233

Lull them into thinking evil doesn't exist.

Posted by: dagny at June 07, 2011 07:44 PM (u8cj+)

in re "The Usual Suspects".  

234 yes, spelling Nazis out there, it's "Verbal" Kint

I was busy picking coffee beans in Guatemala......

235 I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them. - John Bernard Books

You create anything that needs diapers and formula tonight when you leave this house, you will be raising it from your wheelchair. - Dad

236 Get a liberal out alone somewhere shooting or hunting or four-wheeling or drinkin beer. Eatin BBQ and bullshitting. They revert to sanity almost every time. Some even change their lifestyles.

Posted by: sifty at June 07, 2011 07:42 PM (2dbd9)

Some conspiracy theorists have gone so far as to conclude there is some biological, magical or other contagion that causes this. It's just herd mentality, some people will go along with the group, and the Alinsky crowd works very, VERY hard to make sure the general perception, especially in urban centers, is that THEY are "the group."

After all, they get TV news, newspapers, Academia, and most entertainment shows (because they worked very hard to crowd out other voices). In the face of that, conservatives are rebels, even revolutionaries - we just don't act like it, so only the strongest-minded join "la revolucion".

This is a problem, because the herd votes the way the herders tell them.

237 Here is a question for you (and potheads need not get involved with the answer).....If you try to research the pros and cons of marijuana you always end up back at a Soros owned or Soros board member site/program/falsefront/phoney"center" for the "pro" side. There are hundreds of "statements" "opinions" etc which when researched lead you back to Soros. What is Soros interest in marijuana? I have a theory or two but I may be missing the obvious.

238 242:

Heh. Imagine that. We were the cool rebels all along.

We didn't even need hornrim glasses and vintage jackets and girl jeans.

239 "What is Soros interest in marijuana? I have a theory or two but I may be missing the obvious."

Tranquilizing the herd.

240

in re "The Usual Suspects".  

Posted by: Verbil Kint at June 07, 2011 07:46 PM (UqKQV)

"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."

-Charles Baudelaire, 1864

And that sums up liberalism.

241 244 Oh yeah,it is very noticeable.Even the way we interact in a place like this.We agree in many areas yet we are hardheaded and argumentative and willing to be persuaded to an extent.Liberals don't do this.

242 Blunt trauma.

Word.  Every day that I don't go on a multi-state lefty killing spree is testament to my fear of God.  But they keep pushing.

243 243:

Appeal to something taboo the youth like and promise them easy access.

He probably supports skateboards, douchey tattoos, skinny jeans, Hot Topic, Affliction t-shirts, giant stupid aviator glasses, clove cigarettes, shitty music, and hand-held video games too.

I smoked a rainforest of weed back in my dope-smokin days. But the culture never got it's hooks in me. I couldn't get over the scummy people I had to associate with in order to get it.

Kids don't think that way now. The scummy people and crime are part of the thrill.

244 245 Yeah,that's my take as well.Opiate for the masses.Entertainment,free goodies,drugs,anything to keep you from knowing who is running your life.(answer:it ain't gonna be you)

245

It's a very effective strategy.

Posted by: Jones at June 07, 2011 07:24 PM (8sCoq)

Most strategies work against a side that doesn't defend itself.

246 I grew up among dopers. They are pliant and obedient (provided you play along with their worldview), if lazy.

I could see why someone like Soros would like to expand that demographic.

They're also dependent, same same.

247 Get a liberal out alone somewhere shooting or hunting or four-wheeling or drinkin beer. Eatin BBQ and bullshitting. They revert to sanity almost every time. Some even change their lifestyles.

Hippie women go nuts out in the desert with guns.

When they get back in a herd they go fuckin bananas again. It's like pheromones of emo-stupid.

Posted by: sifty at June 07, 2011 07:42 PM (2dbd9)

Most just want to fit into the crowd they are in, by joining or by silence.

248

"What is Soros interest in marijuana? I have a theory or two but I may be missing the obvious."

Easy: undermining American society, to make it easier to replace with socialist utopia.

Same reason liberals/ communists/ progressives/ socialists/ Democrats/ whatevers support drug liberalization, homosexual marriage, welfare (which destroyed the black family), identity politics (balkanize the population), global warming (hobble the economy), criminals generally (hence Dems' support for letting felons vote), hamstringing American military power and/or frittering it away on matters of no importance to America.

One theme runs through all of these policies.

249

The family, as a unit of self-government, is an obstacle to state power. Marxism loathes the family. In the heady first few years of Bolshevik power in Russia, they toyed with the idea of assigning numbers to children rather than names.    

These people are all Marxists at core, and this behavior doesn't make him a hypocrite.  Saying he was pro-family to begin with is what makes him, and the press, hypocrites.  

The way the culture is headed, they won't even have to hide it in twenty years. 

250 Heh. Imagine that. We were the cool rebels all along.

We didn't even need hornrim glasses and vintage jackets and girl jeans.

Posted by: sifty at June 07, 2011 07:51 PM (2dbd9)

Our nation was founded by the rebels. Rebellion is our heritage, our mainstream, our "normal."

At least until the concerted effort to change that started. We are getting dangerously close to the point where that tradition dies except in tiny rebellious "cells."

Rebellion isn't about "stickin' it to tha man," that's just revenge. Rebellion is *ignoring* tha man.

251 253:

True. A sheep will run with the wolves until the wolves get hungry.

252 This whole thing about "families" is a despicable lie. The media says "family values" to euphemize what they're really talking about: The Republican Party is, as a party, resistant to gay marriage.

I agree with your hypocrisy point in main, but I think you are a bit off here. Besides the abortion issue, which you mentioned, there is the safe sex / abstinence issue. Democrats promote condoms and safe sex, whereas many conservatives prefer that the schools stop handing out condoms and if they have to promote anything, that abstinence be the solution. Abstain until marriage and then practice fidelity. (Practice until you get it right. Bada boomp boomp)

And, beyond the whole gay marriage issue, is the whole mainstreaming of gay (read deviant) lifestyles. Republicans as a whole would prefer the whole "We're here, we're queer, get use to it" crowd would just practice their "lifestyle" in private and leave the rest of us alone about it already.

253 I flat out told my children that I didn't think weed was a moral failing, just that it was soma.  If you're happy to be weird townie guy, that's your express ticket.

254

So we demand it and don't get it. Like the last thousand times. Then what?

Seriously, they're not going to cooperate. We need a plan.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 07, 2011 07:26 PM (bxiXv)

True, but this whole kerfuffle pushed the media into reporting on it - thanks to Ace and Breitbart and whoever else kept the fire burning.

It's just the beginning - if we can keep it going, that is.

255 I thought something along the line of the pot culture making you dependent and part of the tranquilized herd. Look at Berkeley, why would people act that way if they weren't drugged? All his literature pointedly says that alcohol makes you aggressive while pot does not. He wants that. I also wondered if he has a lot of money sunk into the trade but that has to be small potatoes for him.

256

The family, as a unit of self-government, is an obstacle to state power. Marxism loathes the family. In the heady first few years of Bolshevik power in Russia, they toyed with the idea of assigning numbers to children rather than names.    

Yep. I've read that the early kibbutzes, in an attempt to build socialism, had men in one barracks, women in another, and the children in a third. The logic was that the family led to an "us/them" mentality, and thereby to competition to promote one's family, over cooperating and favoring the collective.

The strategy foundered ultimately because of women, who wanted to be with their husbands and children, and who ultimately demanded such. From there, the whole socialist experiment largely unraveled, and the kibbutzes became more like garden variety businesses.

This is per my reading, not my firsthand knowledge, which others may have re this.

257 261 Nah,this isn't about money for him.He's got that rolling in from many sources.It's about destroying the last bastion of conservatism.

258 262 IN 1984 the children are monsters.So indoctrinated by Big Brother that their parents are terrified of being denounced by them.

259 BTW, Ace, did you know that ABC "owned" the Weiner story?

Ann Coulter said so.

260

Seems like Titus has a streak of his mother in him.   IIRC, his mother shot his father Thanksgiving day while they were arguing.

So, I guess the shitstain doesn't fall far from the asshole.

261 Get over the Chris Titus murder threat Ace...it's just Palin...and it's not like this doesn't happen to politicians all the time and not get reported by the media...

...because as you say over and over again..she doesn't get this kind of crap any more than anyone else

262

True, but this whole kerfuffle pushed the media into reporting on it - thanks to Ace and Breitbart and whoever else kept the fire burning.

It's just the beginning - if we can keep it going, that is.

Posted by: soulpile is... expendable at June 07, 2011 08:03 PM (afWhQ)

Same with ACORN, Sherrod, PP - but it's like we took one small step forward and now we've stopped.

We can't just maintain pressure, we have to find another way through. Maintaining just maintains, we won't gain any more.

It's not like the MBM had any crisis of conscience or anything, we just made them address a few issues. Which you will notice they continue to lie about.

263 I thought something along the line of the pot culture making you dependent and part of the tranquilized herd. Look at Berkeley, why would people act that way if they weren't drugged? All his literature pointedly says that alcohol makes you aggressive while pot does not. He wants that. I also wondered if he has a lot of money sunk into the trade but that has to be small potatoes for him.

Posted by: dagny at June 07, 2011 08:05 PM (u8cj+)

You don't need drugs to tranquilize.

264 The family, as a unit of self-government, is an obstacle to state power. Marxism loathes the family

What do you think Hillary meant by "it takes a village to raise a child"..

..you know...that old African saying that no one has ever been able to find the actual origins...or even usage...in Africa

265

I love the internet!

INTERNET BLOGS (The New Media):  DOING THE JOBS THE MBM REFUSES TO DO

Since 1998 (or something like that)

266

The strategy foundered ultimately because of women, who wanted to be with their husbands and children, and who ultimately demanded such. From there, the whole socialist experiment largely unraveled, and the kibbutzes became more like garden variety businesses.

My horror-story libtard harvard lawyer atheist san francisco bitch niece-in-law's mother was raised in such a kibbutz. The woman is the most neurotic twist I have ever met. She immigrated back (her mother left) to the US and then proceed to raise her own children patterened on how chimps raised theirs--separated by 5 years, behavioural discipline, etc. Hence the niece-in-law is also a neurotic freak. She's already announced that no child of hers would get antibiotics--I suggested that after 72 hours of a screaming ear infection she might change her mind. Stupid bitch. (You can guess that I'm not one of her biggest fans).

267 I just want to say that this is a brilliant post, Ace.  Well said.

268 Hippie women go nuts out in the desert with guns.

You got that right!

269

Stupid bitch. (You can guess that I'm not one of her biggest fans).

Posted by: dagny at June 07, 2011 08:19 PM (u8cj+)

You might want to clarify that point.

270 265 BTW, Ace, did you know that ABC "owned" the Weiner story?

Ann Coulter said so.

Posted by: Chuckit at June 07, 2011 08:11 PM (G+sxF)

was that before or after mr. snuffleupagus owned her by showing her parts in her book where she spoke out of both sides of her mouth?

that woman,imho, is responsible for more young republicans leaving the republican party than anyone else.  She should stop having dinner and lunch with them, they are so unimpressed they join the dems.

271 277:

What do your friends think?

272 Since Republicans are the party of Big Business and laissez faire economic policies, that means the press would give them a pass when they huddle in private with business leaders or get caught in financial scandals just like they give the Democrats, the party of deviants and libertines, a pass on sexual scandals. Right? You mean they don't? This is all so confusing.

273 A comedian, who I never thought was funny

--Never heard of him.

No, I did not forget a Charlie Gibson sock --I honestly have never heard of the guy.

274 Chris Titus, I hope you never find work again.

Too late.

275 I love the line the man-or-woman-in-the-street-who-is-obviously-an-Obama-loving-libtard speaks when asked by the reporter with the cameraman what they think of the #Weiner!1 thing, and they go, "it's all a personal matter, so I'm OK with it.  In fact, I think he does a great job and should remain in office."

Personal.

276 Ace sounds uber religious to me, but is afraid to admit it.

Bet he's afraid of the dark also (dieing)

277 Zombie is teh awesome.  Loved his post when I read it before, and I'm glad you linked it.  Ace, your "expansion"of his line of thinking lends even more to his analysis.  Good job.

278 wow, just heard on the abc radio news during the batchelor show that a poll shows "more than half of NYer's think weiner should remain on the job"

that is disappointing.

279

Amen Ace!!!! In fact, maybe EVERY DEM who is now silent about Weiner should be asked to sign a pledge that he too believes his private life is none of the constituents fucking business. Lets see how many will run on that.

Unfortunately, I think this country is so fucked (Obama still has 50% approval) that they could still survivr signing such a statement, as long as the leeches continue to get their goodies.

280 Here's the hypocrisy for ya:

Keeping the Internet Devoid of Sexual Predators Act of 2007 – Anthony Weiner

http://alturl.com/t54c3

281 Very unwise for Mr. Titus to say such.  I'm sure SP is vaguely familiar with the concept of self defense, and something makes me suspect he has no idea what he means when he says 'locked and loaded.'

And by now not only is Track familiar with it, he probably also can do suppressive fire quite well.

SP's response to this is probably something along the lines of 'bring him on.'

282 I think the whole list of supposed critical difference in this post is irrelevant. Here is what IS relevant, at least in the post-caught-coital phase: Republicans actually receive more support from their fellows than do Dems - which suggests Dems, despite their constantly pointing out their great "humanity", are really not able to practice what they preach. I think this has a lot to do with a broader problem with Dems (I mean generally, of course), which is that they routinely have quite unrealistic standards and expectations for human behavior. But even that, to me, doesn't capture the main distinction, which is that Dems have such BORING sex scandals, compared to Republicans. I mean, given this one involving Weiner is justified mostly by his post-twittering nation-wide lying campaign, and fueled on such cheap, renewable name ethanol (Lord, why couldn't he have been House Minority Whip, or at least there on the depth chart?), when you get right down it, it is, as several headlines put it, really a Meetless (sic) (I thought about spelling that with an "a", but then I might have to lose the sic.) scandal, something that untold millions of Americans do every year, some repeatedly and even they from the perspective of perfectly law-abiding upstanding lives. Which, of course, is what makes the thing sing: His sinning was so ... so PLEBEIAN, so JUVENILE, he loses all benefit of the doubt about being one single ounce better suited to his office than all those millions who are shlubbing along paycheck to paycheck in demeaning sales jobs and suck-ass white-collar cubicle slots. If he'd at least put even just a smiley face on the grey tighties, or an Oscar brand, that at least would show some daring, some flare, some really elevated sleaze. This, to me, besides the lying thing, is the main reason he has to resign: his scandal is SUCH a DEFLATION, he's clearly too boring and sub-ordinary to be allowed to stay in office.

283 Kudos to all who are holding feet to the fire on this one. As bad as this apologia I found from July 10 2007:
Who Gives A Rat's Ass: Sen. David Vitter Implicated In DC Madam's Phone Records, Apologies For Error In His Past

Eh. The only thing that will ruin you is being caught with a dead girl or live boy.

No one is claiming the escorts are dead.

Ergo, I don't care.

(Source: the very blog you're reading now!)

And Rex, you got it right: Hookers are so much more...manly.)

284

I have read a lot of comments on this issue, but I still haven't seen what is to me the most obvious explanation for it.

Huma has been Hillary's lover for 15 years, as part of the Hill-Bill quid pro quo.

Weiner is Huma's beard.  Their quid pro quo is that he can chase all the tail he wants, as long as he doesn't get caught to obnoxiously.

He did get caught obnoxiously, so he's in trouble.  But Huma isn't being too vocal about it in public because it will only draw attention to the beard arrangement, and maybe bring down Hillary too.

Couples who value wealth or power over all else do this all the time.  Very similar to the arrangement Jon and Kate Gosselin had (until his over-enthusiasm for it blew that sky high) and of course the masters of the genre are Hill and Bill themselves.

285 What fucking planet does the NY Post live on????? * House Speaker Nancy Pelosi ordered an ethics probe, and a senior Democratic aide told The Post that "the [party] leadership is obviously very furious about the way he handled this. It's very messy."