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December 14, 2012

22 Students Slashed By Knife-Wieldening Maniac In China
— Ace

It's very odd timing that this story shows up now-- and I don't mean to suggest a conspiracy theory, or suggest it's a false story, or anything like that.

It's just that the timing is in fact odd. (It's strange that no one can say anything without a series of jam-packed implications automatically flowing from it any more.)

BEIJING (Reuters) - A knife-wielding man slashed 22 children and an adult at an elementary school in central China on Friday, state media reported, the latest in a series of attacks on schoolchildren in the country.
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There have been a series of attacks on schools and schoolchildren around China in recent years, some by people who have lost their jobs or felt left out of the country's economic boom.

The story comes almost as if to make the point: Liberals talk about banning guns as if it's the same as banning murder and banning evil. That's why they are so dogmatic and emotional on the point: How can you be in favor of murder? How can you oppose banning evil?

But guns are not the same as murder, and murder is not the same as guns. Here, in China, a man showed up with murderous intent and armed himself with just a knife. True, he didn't kill as many people as the gun-wielding maniac (or maniacs) in Connecticut did. I suppose that will be the lesson the left draws from this.

Note, by the way, that such attacks have escalated in China due to job dislocations and poor economic circumstances (at least for some). One can find a lot of Hidden Causes, and some additional Villains Behind It All, if one likes.

Posted by: Ace at 09:28 AM | Comments (231)
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1 This is scary.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at December 14, 2012 09:29 AM (0q2P7)

2 I hate knives. I hate sharp pointy things. Seriously. I'd rather be faced with a gunman than a knife.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 14, 2012 09:31 AM (xrrIr)

Indeed. Perhaps it should be mandatory that one school official be armed and proficient in weapons use.

Now that I think about it, why hasn't this been done already?

Posted by: Prescient11 at December 14, 2012 09:33 AM (tVTLU)

4 And yes, Obama has to inject himself into the school shooting. Why? Because he's Lincoln and it's an easy way to score cheap political points and show leadership by simply saying a few trite and glib words.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 14, 2012 09:33 AM (7YQvL)

Saw a GREAT thing on a Facebook page...

Things you will never hear a liberal say....

Guns Killed Bin Laden...

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 14, 2012 09:34 AM (lZBBB)

6 It's almost like the world is experience a sort of collective madness. All sorts of dark horrors are crawling to the surface in a time of uncertainty and doubt.

Posted by: Eaton Cox at December 14, 2012 09:34 AM (q177U)

7 Yeah, hate to mention Obama, but the shooting will be a huge club to pound the Republicans before the mid terms in 2014. Chicago style. With the media as his trumpet.

Posted by: Eaton Cox at December 14, 2012 09:35 AM (q177U)

8 nihilism, then insanity.

Posted by: L, elle at December 14, 2012 09:36 AM (0PiQ4)

9 One week to go to 12/21/12

It does make you wonder a little bit

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2012 09:36 AM (wwsoB)

10 Didn't we have a rash of this in the early '80s?

What is it about economic trouble and killing kids? If I decided that the answer to my ennui was killing a bunch of people, I'd at least make it a building full of lawyers. But every maniac's default is freakin' kids.

Unreal.

Posted by: schizuki at December 14, 2012 09:37 AM (celt+)

11 Others have been bringing up the Bath school bombings. I believe that is still the deadliest attack at a school in the US and that was done with a bomb. Sick fucks who want to kill people will kill people any way they can.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Tick tock tick tock. at December 14, 2012 09:37 AM (VtjlW)

12 we should give handguns out to all eligible graduating high school especially urban youth

Posted by: occam at December 14, 2012 09:38 AM (71sq+)

13 Follow the Israeli model: http://preview.tinyurl.com/d3afmv5 Armed Teachers stop Terrorist Attack in Israel

Posted by: Grover's at December 14, 2012 09:38 AM (9aKQB)

14 It does make you wonder a little bit
Posted by: kbdabear

No. It doesn't

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at December 14, 2012 09:38 AM (TtXjG)

15 Home being searched is in Newtown CT, NOT NJ

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 14, 2012 09:38 AM (79ueO)

16 It's almost like the world is experience a sort of collective madness. All sorts of dark horrors are crawling to the surface in a time of uncertainty and doubt. Don't know if there is a connection or not, but a lot of the world's major economies are looking pretty grim. The US isn't the only one.

Posted by: rickb223 Let. It. Burn. at December 14, 2012 09:39 AM (GFM2b)

17 Look, I can't stand the Liar in Chief, but it is impossible for the press not to expect/push for the President to say something. Seriously.

Posted by: Jack Wagon at December 14, 2012 09:39 AM (KUPae)

18 The world has gone mad. I am surprised by the strong emotions I am feeling right now. I wish I could say that these types of things are isolated and rare. I no longer feel that way.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 14, 2012 09:39 AM (jucos)

Seriously though, why shouldn't one responsible adult, the principal, PE teacher, whatever, be required to have a weapon at every school so that in case some nutso walks in you have SOME POSSIBLE DEFENSE rather than just running or hiding and hoping not to get shot.

Posted by: Prescient11 at December 14, 2012 09:39 AM (tVTLU)

20 I've seen a number of these Chinese knife attacks on schools. This is not the first.

As to Connecticut, no words. Just silent, fervent, prayers.

Posted by: eureka! at December 14, 2012 09:39 AM (HPRku)

Grover's:

Yep, that is exactly what I'm talking about.

Posted by: Prescient11 at December 14, 2012 09:40 AM (tVTLU)

22 Muslims killed over 300 children in Beslan, Ossetia. Muslims killed over 3 thousand people in America.

When will we get over our love affair with muslims?

Posted by: george at December 14, 2012 09:41 AM (qBLA2)

It's almost like the world is experience a sort of collective madness.

Indeed.

Posted by: fluffy at December 14, 2012 09:41 AM (3SvjA)

24 Presser under way

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 14, 2012 09:41 AM (79ueO)

25 I know the 2012 thing is annoying to a lot of people. But it is strange how narratives have a way of infecting reality. Almost like an illness.

Posted by: Eaton Cox at December 14, 2012 09:41 AM (q177U)

26
I saw this particular China story prior to the CT shooting.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 14, 2012 09:42 AM (n/ubI)

27 We have to ban guns and legalize drugs. Then this will never happen again

Posted by: Lefty pounding a square peg into a round hole at December 14, 2012 09:42 AM (wwsoB)

28 I won't have an opinion until I hear from David Frum.

Posted by: Fritz at December 14, 2012 09:42 AM (K/NRd)

29 I think these killers are completely in the grips of evil and despair and rage. It is almost like the sight of the innocent drives them to madness

Posted by: L, elle at December 14, 2012 09:42 AM (0PiQ4)

30 Now they say a .223 as well?

Posted by: Jack Wagon at December 14, 2012 09:43 AM (KUPae)

31 LIVE: State Police Lt. says nothing about a second shooter.

Posted by: Gerry at December 14, 2012 09:44 AM (DJIo7)

32 hysteria is a real thing. Media starts playing up end of the world stories, that can tip some crazy people into action.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 14, 2012 09:44 AM (ZPrif)

33 I know the 2012 thing is annoying to a lot of people. But it is strange how narratives have a way of infecting reality. Almost like an illness.

Yeah, because a school shooting in 2012 is eerily tied to a mythical Mayan prophecy but every other mass shooting in every other year was not. Or was it? Jesus people, get a grip.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at December 14, 2012 09:45 AM (+lsX1)

34 The wieldening?

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at December 14, 2012 09:45 AM (zpqa2)

35 Not sure, but my instincts suggest to me that the Democrats will use this shooting and other shootings to push for another UE benefits extension.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 14, 2012 09:45 AM (KeJAW)

36 The answer is to ban sharpening stones.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows þr0n is your constitutionally guaranteed entitlement at December 14, 2012 09:46 AM (Lxw+T)

Isolated tragedies can be dealt with. A daily barrage of reporting on them is meant to manipulate your emotions in ways not easily seen, but known well to those who do it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 14, 2012 09:46 AM (yiIja)

38 I'm guessing the Chicoms will handle their surviving perp in a much more satisfying manner than we will.

Posted by: Jaws at December 14, 2012 09:47 AM (4I3Uo)

39 The MSM is all over the place with how many dead, wounded, shooters, etc

Of course, these impeccable journalists also had Gabby Giffords dead

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2012 09:47 AM (wwsoB)

40 All you had to do was listen. But no.

Posted by: SMOD/Fiery Death 2012 at December 14, 2012 09:47 AM (JVEmw)

41 From the CT CBS local station:

"The worst mass school murder in American history took place on May 18,1927 in Bath Township, Mich., when a former school board member set off three bombs that killed 45 people."

Perspective.

I also think the media should stop broadcasting this stuff, at least the shooter's picture. It's a big fantasy to them, where they make some big point and are famous for a minute or two...before they die. It's like every movie with the hero outrunning a fireball: "I wanna be that guy!"

And why the hell did the governor call Barky???

Posted by: PJ at December 14, 2012 09:48 AM (ZWaLo)

42 The answer is to ban sharpening stones.

No, the answer is to ban stones.

What have they really done for us, really?

Stupid rocks.

And sporks. Those have got to go. Remember that movie? The Evil That Men Do ... with Sporks

Posted by: Phinn at December 14, 2012 09:48 AM (oFH2D)

43 >>>Jesus people, get a grip. Hey, December isn't over yet.

Posted by: Eaton Cox at December 14, 2012 09:49 AM (q177U)

44 Culture of Sharp and/or Pointy Things.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 14, 2012 09:49 AM (zayy9)

45 Drudge links a story saying a .223 caliber rifle was recovered at the shooting.

AR-15 probably.

Posted by: EC at December 14, 2012 09:49 AM (GQ8sn)

I put this in the previous thread, but it seems more appropriate here:

"The Dunblane school massacre occurred at Dunblane Primary School in the Scottish town of Dunblane on 13 March 1996. The gunman, 43-year-old Thomas Hamilton (b. 10 May 1952), entered the school armed with four handguns, shooting and killing sixteen children and one adult before committing suicide. Along with the 1987 Hungerford massacre and the 2010 Cumbria shootings, it remains one of the worst criminal acts involving firearms in the history of the United Kingdom.

Public debate subsequent to these events centred on gun-control laws, including media-driven public petitions calling for a ban on private ownership of handguns and an official enquiry, the Cullen Report. In response to this debate, the Firearms (Amendment) Act 1997 and the Firearms (Amendment) (No. 2) Act 1997 were enacted, which effectively made private ownership of handguns illegal in the United Kingdom."

So...we can expect the same push to make handguns illegal here, 2nd Amendment or no.
(note that the Cumbria shootings referred to above occurred in 2010, and involved a rifle and shotgun, both licensed, not a handgun.)

Posted by: Jim Sonweed at December 14, 2012 09:50 AM (9gW0q)

47 I am so ANGRY. omg. So the shooter worked at the school now? what IS the story? the troopers stayed outside, AGAIN?!!?! while kids were in danger?!?! I haven't been so pissed since Beslan

Posted by: BlackOrchid-StillMissingDagny at December 14, 2012 09:50 AM (F+ZCA)

48 >>>Or was it? Jesus people, get a grip.

That's not what he was saying ( I think)
An interesting concept in group think in the hyperconnected world was postulated and made into the plot of one of my favorite anime. Stand alone complex. Where a group idea takes form and function and actually motivates action having no basis in reality, no central thinker supporting it.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at December 14, 2012 09:50 AM (0q2P7)

49 Everyone goes on and on about the Fiscal Cliff. I'm far more concerned about the Societal Cliff, the Cultural Cliff, the Moral Cliff.

Posted by: tubal at December 14, 2012 09:51 AM (BoE3Z)

50 Attn: morons

Jeff B. doesn't like all the speculation he's hearing. So everyone be silent and twiddle your thumbs while we wait for all the facts to trickle out.

Because.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 14, 2012 09:52 AM (G/zuv)

51 Sporks are the Chriss Angel of flatware.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows þr0n is your constitutionally guaranteed entitlement at December 14, 2012 09:53 AM (Lxw+T)

52 45 -

Early reports kept using the word "handguns." No matter what else happens from here to determine how and what and why, the narrative is already set:

Handguns are killing our children (and NFL players' live-in girlfriends).

Handguns.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 14, 2012 09:53 AM (BeSEI)

53 Not sure, but my instincts suggest to me that the Democrats will use this shooting and other shootings to push for another UE benefits extension.

And about a trillion dollars worth of other spending for their pet social projects/kickbacks to their voting blocs.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 14, 2012 09:53 AM (/kI1Q)

54 "Note, by the way, that such attacks have escalated in China due to job dislocations and poor economic circumstances (at least for some). One can find a lot of Hidden Causes, and some additional Villains Behind It All, if one likes."

But ... but ... but China's government *works*!

Posted by: Jeff Immelt at December 14, 2012 09:53 AM (VrNoa)

55 Second look at midnight basketball?

Posted by: George Orwell what knows þr0n is your constitutionally guaranteed entitlement at December 14, 2012 09:54 AM (Lxw+T)

56 Is there a name connected to the shooter yet?

The longer they take to release the name .. well, you know

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2012 09:54 AM (wwsoB)

57 I've thought about setting up a web site that has a live stream of a gun sitting on a table, so when it gets up and goes out to claim yet another victim, you could watch it in person.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 14, 2012 09:55 AM (yiIja)

58 Early reports kept using the word "handguns." No matter what else happens from here to determine how and what and why, the narrative is already set:

In that sense, all firearms are "handguns" aren't they? They all required the use of a hand.

Posted by: EC at December 14, 2012 09:55 AM (GQ8sn)

59 Second look at midnight basketball?

No.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 14, 2012 09:55 AM (/kI1Q)

60 This story seems to have been scrubbed by the media. I saw this story this morning and now it is nowhere to be found.

Posted by: poohrat at December 14, 2012 09:56 AM (F2jy+)

61
They probably want to scrub the facebook and youtube accounts before they release the name. That way they can tell us they have no idea for what motivated the shootings since we have no way to find out for ourselves.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 14, 2012 09:56 AM (G/zuv)

62 FWIW, in Israel the law REQUIRES that groups of more than half a dozen children be accompanied by armed guards.

Read that again.

Its because of an incident years back where some Palestinian terrorists (of course) tried to shoot up a kindergarden.

Anyway, this creates a situation where 24 year old female Israeli Kindergarden teachers take the kids out on field trips packing Uzi submachine guns.

Liberals heads would explode if that happened here, but even in Israel (which, contrary to what many believe, has an active peacenik left rivalling anything in the USA) its accepted with a shrug as the best medicine to prevent the sort of tragedy that happened today in CT.

Posted by: looking closely at December 14, 2012 09:57 AM (6Q9g2)

63 Societal breakdown. PC BS. No accountability, nor punishment for the crime.

Posted by: beach at December 14, 2012 09:57 AM (LpQbZ)

64 58 Early reports kept using the word "handguns." No matter what else
happens from here to determine how and what and why, the narrative is
already set:

In that sense, all firearms are "handguns" aren't they? They all required the use of a hand.

Posted by: EC at December 14, 2012 01:55 PM (GQ8sn)

As mentioned upthread, a .223, likely an AR15 or some variant. That's already out there. But to a low information prole, and through a lying government Media, yeah handgun, of course.

Posted by: tubal at December 14, 2012 09:57 AM (BoE3Z)

65 58 -

Handguns = those evil things we see in movies and tv that are used to kill people, and not (at this time) those long things rednecks use to kill Bambi.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 14, 2012 09:58 AM (BeSEI)

66
They made that mistake once with Jared Loughner and their whole "violent right wing rhetoric" accusations were blown out of the water when Loughner's videos were discovered.

So, now they scrub the internet trail before releasing names, unless the shooter has ties to Republicans, then it's different.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 14, 2012 09:59 AM (G/zuv)

67 An interesting concept in group think in the hyperconnected world was postulated and made into the plot of one of my favorite anime. Stand alone complex. Where a group idea takes form and function and actually motivates action having no basis in reality, no central thinker supporting it.

Another interesting concept in group think is where people that still have no idea what really happened will immediately begin constructing narratives for exactly why it happened. It might be a good idea to at least wait until the bodies cool off and the shooter is identified before expounding on the precise pathology behind the act.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at December 14, 2012 09:59 AM (+lsX1)

68 That's not what he was saying ( I think) An interesting concept in group think in the hyperconnected world was postulated and made into the plot of one of my favorite anime. Stand alone complex. Where a group idea takes form and function and actually motivates action having no basis in reality, no central thinker supporting it. Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at December 14, 2012 01:50 PM (0q2P7) It's a take off of the Jungian concept of collective unconscious. There is something to the concept of fin de siecle madness. I don't know if it's because people are paying more attention but it does seem as if there are periods when the entire planet goes a little mad.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Tick tock tick tock. at December 14, 2012 09:59 AM (VtjlW)

69 63
Societal breakdown.
PC BS.
No accountability, nor punishment for the crime.

Posted by: beach at December 14, 2012 01:57 PM (LpQbZ)

No desire to pick a fight here, but what you describe is really the death of civil society.

Posted by: tubal at December 14, 2012 10:00 AM (BoE3Z)

70 What do you mean "the troopers stayed inside"?

Posted by: PJ at December 14, 2012 10:00 AM (ZWaLo)

Attacking children with knives seems to be a regular event in China.

The fact of the matter is if you are in the mood to murder, maim, or produce mayhem, you're going to find a way to do it. Our reaction to such violence shouldn't be to blame the weapons used -- that's foolish and nonsensical. It doesn't do anything except force sociopaths and psychos to get creative. We should be blaming the cultural and social framework that not only allows these miscreants to bloom into monsters, but that also fails to equip the killers themselves with the appropriate moral and ethical compass to realize that what they want to do is wrong and that they need to do something RIGHT instead.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 14, 2012 10:02 AM (4df7R)

72 The worst school massacre happened in 1927 in Michigan, where 45 were killed by 3 bombs.

Posted by: parteagirl at December 14, 2012 10:03 AM (yJJIi)

73 These young men who commit these massacres are probably mentally unstable to begin with, then everything starts to go wrong for them -- they lose their jobs or they lose a custody battle or their girlfriend leaves them, something -- and they see on TV or in the movies people going out with a bang. There are all sorts of movies with the anti-hero facing off against the cops and going out spectacularly. And these portrayals show the anti-hero as being perversely noble. And this unstable guy who just got screwed says "Hey, that's the way to go, guns blazing and then die young and leave a good-looking corpse, and people will always remember you." Culture has consequences.

Posted by: joncelli at December 14, 2012 10:03 AM (RD7QR)

74 The Bob Costas this is going to spawn will be EPIC.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at December 14, 2012 10:03 AM (zpqa2)

75 Handguns.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 14, 2012 01:53 PM (BeSEI)

I keep most of mine in a locked safe, because I just don't trust them. Sometimes at night I can hear them whispering to each other.

The one I keep bedside (loaded mag...hammer down on an empty chamber) is an old friend and I trust it....mostly.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 14, 2012 10:04 AM (GsoHv)

76 In the UK, they have restrictions on kitchen knives.

Next step in the UK: cutting the hands off their citizens, because they *might* use them to strangle someone.

Restrictions don't work.

Posted by: shibumi at December 14, 2012 10:04 AM (z63Tr)

Honestly? With all the hype there's been around the whole "Mayan Apocalypse" thing? I wouldn't be surprised if that had some relation to either of these two incidents in China and Connecticut.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 14, 2012 10:04 AM (4df7R)

78 Someone mentioned the economic collapse tied to more tragedies, earlier. And, a collapse of the US, and the US dollar will reek havoc across the world. The JEF does not know the consequences of his actions. At all.

Posted by: beach at December 14, 2012 10:04 AM (LpQbZ)

79 74 The Bob Costas this is going to spawn will be EPIC. He will grow almost five feet tall.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows þr0n is your constitutionally guaranteed entitlement at December 14, 2012 10:05 AM (Lxw+T)

80
I have no doubt we'll see a higher rate of suicides and violence on 12/20 and 12/21. To what degree, I dunno.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 14, 2012 10:05 AM (G/zuv)

81 Muslims killed over 300 children in Beslan, Ossetia. Muslims killed over 3 thousand people in America.

When will we get over our love affair with muslims?

Posted by: george at December 14, 2012 01:41 PM (qBLA2)

Amen. I was pretty surprised when the shooter(s)/stabber turned out to NOT be muslims.

Posted by: Reactionary at December 14, 2012 10:06 AM (Qqva6)

82 The one I keep bedside (loaded mag...hammer down on an empty chamber) is an old friend and I trust it....mostly.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 14, 2012 02:04 PM (GsoHv)

That's smart, because if it does decide to jump up in the middle of the night and attempt to shoot you, you should wake up and be able to stop it when it chambers a round.

Posted by: David Frum at December 14, 2012 10:06 AM (/YJYi)

83 It's almost like killing masses of adults is no longer shocking. There's not much notoriety in it anymore. So we go to the next stage. I really hate to think of what's after this.

Posted by: The Mega Independent[/i] at December 14, 2012 10:06 AM (R8BMm)

84 America must come to accept that mass murder can not be stopped. It can be reduced but not eliminated. What can we do to reduce mass murder?

Posted by: occam at December 14, 2012 10:08 AM (71sq+)

85
Bullying. That's what caused this. We need new and more laws against bullying.

Posted by: the future at December 14, 2012 10:08 AM (G/zuv)

86 I blame all of this on Bob Costas.

Posted by: Butters at December 14, 2012 10:08 AM (NIZHJ)

87 Jeebus. Now the count is closer to thirty?

Posted by: George Orwell what knows þr0n is your constitutionally guaranteed entitlement at December 14, 2012 10:08 AM (Lxw+T)

88 The JEF does not know the consequences of his actions. At all.

Of course he does. To lefties, the Western World and its ability to give people their own opportunity to advance is like garlic to a vampire. They need to be the only ones with that power. Otherwise someone that doesn't agree with them might get too much of it.

Posted by: The Mega Independent[/i] at December 14, 2012 10:09 AM (R8BMm)

89 There's a report saying the reason the NFL guy killed Kasandra Perkins is because there was some question regarding the paternity of the 3 month old child...

... Time to consider a ban on penises?

Posted by: BurtTC at December 14, 2012 10:09 AM (BeSEI)

90 ... Time to consider a ban on penises?

Posted by: BurtTC at December 14, 2012 02:09 PM (BeSEI)

Just to make it official.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at December 14, 2012 10:10 AM (zpqa2)

91 45 Drudge links a story saying a .223 caliber rifle was recovered at the shooting.

AR-15 probably.

Posted by: EC at December 14, 2012 01:49 PM (GQ8sn)

Isn't Conn. a ban state?

Posted by: Jollyroger at December 14, 2012 10:11 AM (t06LC)

92 The young lad was troubled. The guns drove him to madness. We must keep troubled people from going mad.

Posted by: Soona at December 14, 2012 10:11 AM (1CXqI)

93
my updated profile:

Two mopey losers, 18-21 yrs old, unemployed, former students of the school, picked on in school, they paint their fingernails black, mad at the world, make a shooting/suicide pact with each other to teach the world a lesson.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 14, 2012 10:11 AM (G/zuv)

94 I find it amusing that liberals like to call people stupid for believing in God (imaginary friend), yet blame an inanimate object for crime.

Posted by: Hard Right at December 14, 2012 10:11 AM (uhftQ)

Just got a call from the RNC for a donation. I informed them that as long as the party is run by northeastern liberals, they can get bent. I'll use the money for more productive things.

Felt good.

Posted by: Invictus at December 14, 2012 10:11 AM (OQpzc)

96 >>>It might be a good idea to at least wait until the bodies cool off and the shooter is identified before expounding on the precise pathology behind the act.

Umm. OK. I didn't see anyone suggesting anything about a precise pathology. Only hypothesizing about a possible way to connect two seemingly unrelated though functionally similar events. Last I checked hypothesizing ahead of the search for precise proof was part of the scientific method.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at December 14, 2012 10:12 AM (0q2P7)

97 84 -

Run, Hide, Fight:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/ckzculx

Posted by: BurtTC at December 14, 2012 10:12 AM (BeSEI)

98 Societal breakdown.

PC BS.

No accountability, nor punishment for the crime.

Posted by: beach at December 14, 2012 01:57 PM (LpQbZ)
No desire to pick a fight here, but what you describe is really the death of civil society.

Posted by: tubal at December 14, 2012 02:00 PM (BoE3Z)

I would sign on to that. The question really is do you think nothing is wrong in society? Blaming guns allows us to not address the very real and hard to solve problems that are out there.

Posted by: Jollyroger at December 14, 2012 10:12 AM (t06LC)

99
yeah, excuse us for trying to understand why these things happen

Posted by: soothsayer at December 14, 2012 10:13 AM (G/zuv)

100 America must come to accept that mass murder can not be stopped. It can be reduced but not eliminated. What can we do to reduce mass murder?

Posted by: occam at December 14, 2012 02:08 PM (71sq+)

--------------------------------------------------

I'd make a suggestion, but the aetheists won't like it.

Posted by: Soona at December 14, 2012 10:13 AM (1CXqI)

101 I don't believe in atheists.

Posted by: Butters at December 14, 2012 10:14 AM (NIZHJ)

102 I wish I still had weapons. I lost them in a tragic boating accident.

Posted by: Invictus at December 14, 2012 10:15 AM (OQpzc)

103
In the slim chance the shooter turns out to be my son, I hope you will all give him privacy to work things out in his life.

Posted by: Jim Moran at December 14, 2012 10:15 AM (G/zuv)

104 I used to think living in mumble-fuck nowhere was the answer, but that school was in the middle of nowhere, too.

Time to be armed and silently dangerous.

Posted by: tcn at December 14, 2012 10:15 AM (ZOUmX)

105 so they identified him

Posted by: beach at December 14, 2012 10:15 AM (LpQbZ)

106 ryan lanza

Posted by: beach at December 14, 2012 10:15 AM (LpQbZ)

107 Come on, Ace. Write something uplifting. Is that out of the realm of possibility today? Its beyond my ability to even think a hopeful thought so far.

Posted by: L, elle at December 14, 2012 10:16 AM (0PiQ4)

108 He's actually just a moderate slasher, so it's ok.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 14, 2012 10:16 AM (wDG5U)

109 It's almost like the world is experience a sort of collective madness.

Been that way for about a million years...ever since caveman oog bashed goog's head in with a rock because he wanted to steal his diner.

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 14, 2012 10:17 AM (G0eua)

110 ... Time to consider a ban on penises?

Posted by: BurtTC at December 14, 2012 02:09 PM (BeSEI)

It's really the least we can do.

Posted by: tcn at December 14, 2012 10:17 AM (ZOUmX)

111
Kensington just posted this: Luke Woodham killed his mother. Chased her through the house with a knife at 3 AM. Blood on the walls, floors, throughout the house.

So now we know the name, and he killed his mother?

Posted by: soothsayer at December 14, 2012 10:17 AM (G/zuv)

112 >>>America must come to accept that mass murder can not be stopped. It can be reduced but not eliminated. What can we do to reduce mass murder?

Reduce the US to a police state. RFID sub-dermal monitoring at all times. No cash money, all transactions monitored at all times. All online activity monitored. Houses equipped with government monitoring devices.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at December 14, 2012 10:17 AM (0q2P7)

113 I would sign on to that. The question really is do you think nothing is wrong in society? Blaming guns allows us to not address the very real and hard to solve problems that are out there. Posted by: Jollyroger at December 14, 2012 02:12 PM (t06LC) a breakdown of the family unit glorifying single motherhood/parenthood loss of judeo christian foundation and, no punishment for the crime -- instead -- let's try to dig deep into their psyche and explain the reasons... bs

Posted by: beach at December 14, 2012 10:17 AM (LpQbZ)

114 I wish I still had weapons. I lost them in a tragic boating accident.

Posted by: Invictus

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You are fooling anyone.

Posted by: The Federal Government at December 14, 2012 10:18 AM (uhftQ)

115 so they identified him

Posted by: beach at December 14, 2012 02:15 PM (LpQbZ)

Can't be him - only has two names

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at December 14, 2012 10:18 AM (zpqa2)

116 I also think the media should stop broadcasting this stuff, at least the shooter's picture. It's a big fantasy to them, where they make some big point and are famous for a minute or two...before they die. There was an early episode of NCIS where a serial killer was trying to become famous. He even taunted Gibbs at the end saying 'who caught Gacy, who caught Dahmer, etc. I will be remembered not you'. In the end, NCIS found a way to try the case to national security and therefore couldn't release his name.

Posted by: BishopWash at December 14, 2012 10:18 AM (mGD8u)

117 107 Come on, Ace. Write something uplifting. Is that out of the realm of possibility today? Its beyond my ability to even think a hopeful thought so far.

Posted by: L, elle at December 14, 2012 02:16 PM (0PiQ4)

You are joking, right? This is hardly the blog to get uplifting stories, unless the uplifting is of the middle finger.

Posted by: tcn at December 14, 2012 10:18 AM (ZOUmX)

118 The Aum Shinrikyo murdered 13 and wounded 54 in their 1995 subway gas attack. This in a highly civilized and advanced country with some of the strictest gun control on the planet and in the middle of a city with one of the most effective police forces in the world. (Which, unfortunately, didn't prevent them from implicating the husband of one of the victims of being part of the conspiracy.)

Posted by: Socratease at December 14, 2012 10:18 AM (iVBDH)

119 ryan lanza

Posted by: beach at December 14, 2012 02:15 PM (LpQbZ)

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Sounds WASPish. Don't ya' think?

Posted by: Soona at December 14, 2012 10:18 AM (1CXqI)

120

There is something to the concept of fin de siecle madness. I don't know if it's because people are paying more attention but it does seem as if there are periods when the entire planet goes a little mad.

I keep trying to tell myself that the reason we hear about this at all is that it's rare, although, these days, it seems less so.

It's tough to be of good cheer now.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 14, 2012 10:18 AM (yiIja)

121 @108:""statistics show""
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"statistics show" is the Liberal version of "the Bible says". Both arguments can be soundly employed, but on their own they ignorantly sidestep the enormous amount of interpretive support that one must first set them upon.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 14, 2012 10:19 AM (wDG5U)

122

I don't believe in atheists.

Actually neither do I. I think almost everyone believes in "something". I think a large percentage of atheists, particularly the angry ones, are angry at G-d not that they don't believe.

Life is unfair after all. Bad shit does happen to good people. Sometimes people even kill kids in a school.

Posted by: eleven at December 14, 2012 10:20 AM (fsLdt)

123 Is Geraldo en route?

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at December 14, 2012 10:20 AM (zpqa2)

124 The odd thing is, they read a letter from the school earlier on CNN that was sent to all the parents re: new security measures in the school. The school is supposed to always be locked, and no one let in without ID. And, then, no one past the front desk without being checked out, etc. How on earth did he/they get in? It sounds like they really addressed security -- preemptively. Good Lord.

Posted by: beach at December 14, 2012 10:21 AM (LpQbZ)

125 His FB page, per Twitter. Just one entry, from someone else, referencing a video game and a movie. Attempt at link in name.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 14, 2012 10:21 AM (tkoGU)

126 125 Maybe he was an employee.

Posted by: steevy at December 14, 2012 10:21 AM (dBYCN)

127 a breakdown of the family unit

glorifying single motherhood/parenthood

loss of judeo christian foundation

and, no punishment for the crime -- instead -- let's try to dig deep into their psyche and explain the reasons... bs

Posted by: beach at December 14, 2012 02:17 PM (LpQbZ)

Lets see... if reports are correct, gunman was 20, and had a student in the class which would make them about five, meaning that he had to be around 15 when he became a father.

Posted by: Jollyroger at December 14, 2012 10:21 AM (t06LC)

128 Eve ate the apple, while Adam stood by and did nothing to stop her, and here we are, a few millenia later still dealing with the fallout. If that little shit had gotten off his bare ass and stood on his principles, none of this would ever have happened.

Posted by: tcn at December 14, 2012 10:21 AM (ZOUmX)

129 This story was up yesterday, Ace.

Posted by: Javelina Bomb at December 14, 2012 10:22 AM (Wf+X1)

130 tcn I know,right. Just wishful thinking, grasping at straws, and desperation. I hate the way I feel.

Posted by: L, elle at December 14, 2012 10:22 AM (0PiQ4)

131 Video games are going to be caught up in this, along with 'gun culture' - wait and see...

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at December 14, 2012 10:22 AM (zpqa2)

132 I know every generation thinks they live in the end times, but dang...

Posted by: Golan Globus at December 14, 2012 10:22 AM (7vSU0)

133 Time to consider a ban on penises? Posted by: BurtTC at December 14, 2012 02:09 PM (BeSEI) It's really the least we can do You'll get my penis when you pry it from my cold, dead hands!

Posted by: rickb223 Let. It. Burn. at December 14, 2012 10:22 AM (GFM2b)

134 Parent of suspected shooter found dead at home... he killed the mom, it sounds like. Then went after the children.

Posted by: beach at December 14, 2012 10:23 AM (LpQbZ)

135

73.... There are all sorts of movies with the anti-hero facing off against the cops and going out spectacularly. And these portrayals show the anti-hero as being perversely noble.

...Culture has consequences.

Yeah, I can't help but think that these things play a role in these events of mayhem.

We see sociopaths held up as being worthy of our sympathy.

It sinks into people's brains, that taking out a lot of people in a 'blaze of glory' is some sort of accomplishment.

The only movie scene that I can recall, where children were killed en masse by an adult...was that horrible scene in Star Wars III where Anakin Skywalker killed all those young Padawans.

Posted by: wheatie at December 14, 2012 10:23 AM (K4wCe)

136 Reduce the US to a police state. RFID sub-dermal monitoring at all times. No cash money, all transactions monitored at all times. All online activity monitored. Houses equipped with government monitoring devices.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at December 14, 2012 02:17 PM

Of course, and imprison and kill those who think bad thoughts about the state, because it's not murder when a socialist government does the killing

Posted by: Harry Belafonte at December 14, 2012 10:23 AM (wwsoB)

137 This will be a twofer for the Left: First & Second Amendments. This cannot go to waste.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at December 14, 2012 10:23 AM (zpqa2)

138 Time to consider a ban on penises?

Posted by: BurtTC at December 14, 2012 02:09 PM (BeSEI)

I'll cut mine off after the liberals cut theirs off. Promise.

Posted by: Adam at December 14, 2012 10:23 AM (/YJYi)

139 You'll get my penis when you pry it from my cold, dead hands!

Posted by: rickb223 Let. It. Burn. at December 14, 2012 02:22 PM (GFM2b)

Ack! I don't want that filthy thing!

Posted by: tcn at December 14, 2012 10:23 AM (ZOUmX)

140 133 I know every generation thinks they live in the end times, but dang...

Posted by: Golan Globus at December 14, 2012 02:22 PM (7vSU0)

I don't know about that, but we may be the first generation to actively wish it.

Posted by: Jollyroger at December 14, 2012 10:23 AM (t06LC)

141 i found 4 ryan lanza's

Posted by: ette at December 14, 2012 10:24 AM (nqBYe)

142 I don't understand Liberals. They want to keep abortion legal, but then they bitch and moan when children are killed.

Their logic isn't consistent. If life is sacred... If it isn't, so what.

On second thought, maybe I do understand Liberals.

Posted by: Al at December 14, 2012 10:24 AM (V70Uh)

143 I'm removing the ampersand from my keyboard now...no need for it

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at December 14, 2012 10:24 AM (zpqa2)

144 136 It wasn't actually shown.

Posted by: steevy at December 14, 2012 10:24 AM (dBYCN)

145 Anyway, this creates a situation where 24 year old female Israeli Kindergarden teachers take the kids out on field trips packing Uzi submachine guns. Posted by: looking closely at December 14, 2012 01:57 PM (6Q9g2) Not only that, but they likely know damn well how to use them. Military service is compulsory there, isn't it?

Posted by: KG at December 14, 2012 10:25 AM (p7BzH)

146 his mom too?

Posted by: ette at December 14, 2012 10:25 AM (nqBYe)

147 That's good, Bishop Wash, now we just need the MSM to catch on.

And is it societal breakdown, or a return to the violence of existence that most of the world experiences. I remember a quote, "This is not normal life. Normal life is Darfur."

We had societal order, and the greedy pols and activists destroyed it, IMHO.

Posted by: PJ at December 14, 2012 10:25 AM (ZWaLo)

148 His mom was a teacher at the school. per Twitter.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 14, 2012 10:25 AM (tkoGU)

149 Who is the underdog in a child killing? The child
Who is the underdog in an abortion? The 'choiceless' mother

Leftist logic

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at December 14, 2012 10:26 AM (zpqa2)

150 Was the 24 year old female Israeli Kindergarden teacher with the Uzi wearing a bikini?

Posted by: Al at December 14, 2012 10:26 AM (V70Uh)

151 oh.

Posted by: ette at December 14, 2012 10:26 AM (nqBYe)

152 Do you know of the Klingon proverb that says Four thousand throats may be cut in one night by a running man.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at December 14, 2012 10:26 AM (1hM1d)

153

Houses equipped with government monitoring devices.

It's funny you should mention that. Back in HS, we had some guy give our gov't class a lecture on the future. He said there'd be sensors inside all houses to detect drugs. One student dared to challenge him on this. He wasn't pleased. I believe the phrase, "Oh no you won't" was used.

That one student became one of my best buds and taught me a lot about politics during the summer school class we both had to attend for... wait for it... government.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 14, 2012 10:28 AM (yiIja)

154

Was the 24 year old female Israeli Kindergarden teacher with the Uzi wearing a bikini?

I can't think of bikinis right now. Well....I can but we probably shouldn't.

Posted by: eleven at December 14, 2012 10:28 AM (fsLdt)

155 Theory: Guy lost custody of the kid in NJ. Mom took kid to Connecticut. Shooter went batty, drove to Conn. He probably went to the office, asked to take his kid out of school, principal/receptionist said no, then he opened fire with concealed weapons, then went to go get his kid and started shooting his/her classmates.

Posted by: joncelli at December 14, 2012 10:28 AM (RD7QR)

156 >>>The only movie scene that I can recall, where children were killed en masse by an adult...was that horrible scene in Star Wars III where Anakin Skywalker killed all those young Padawans.

Worst decent into darkness plotline ever. He goes from troubled Jedi loyal to the order being tempted by the dark side to child killing psychopath in less than 5 minutes of screen time.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at December 14, 2012 10:28 AM (0q2P7)

157 How about we employ those soon to be former Marines as school security? Seriously.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at December 14, 2012 10:28 AM (dvRYt)

158 Re: anti-hero The first time I witnessed this was when I saw Silence of the Lambs and watched the movie theatre stupids cheering on Hannibal Lecter at the end of the movie knowing he was planning on eating the govt weasel character.

Posted by: L, elle at December 14, 2012 10:28 AM (0PiQ4)

159 149 -

Which makes more sense, than the early reports that he was the father of a child there... if he's 20.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 14, 2012 10:29 AM (BeSEI)

160 Lanza FB page - facebook.com/rlanza

Posted by: Whatev at December 14, 2012 10:29 AM (2t6Gz)

161

Worst decent into darkness plotline ever. He goes from troubled Jedi loyal to the order being tempted by the dark side to child killing psychopath in less than 5 minutes of screen time.

Forget it Jake, it's Lucastown.

Posted by: eleven at December 14, 2012 10:30 AM (fsLdt)

162 Public education seems to be the source of all kinds of problems.

Even in China.

Posted by: ontherocks at December 14, 2012 10:30 AM (aZ6ew)

163 We had societal order, and the greedy pols and activists destroyed it, IMHO.

Posted by: PJ at December 14, 2012 02:25 PM (ZWaLo)

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This. What scares me is that this may well become the really "cool" thing to do.

Posted by: Soona at December 14, 2012 10:30 AM (1CXqI)

164 I've just googled Ryan Lanza and I have information that he may have been spotted in the area of a Newtown Tea Party rally 3 years ago ...

Posted by: Brian Ross at December 14, 2012 10:31 AM (wwsoB)

165 Commenters are mentioning Bob Costas...I did a quick google of onnecticut gun law rankings. Top results are the Brady Foundation and various Connicticut politicos crowing about their various rankings year after year (ranging from 3rd to 5th "best"). California, New Jersey, Massachusetts and New York round out top 5. So little gun violence in L.A. or Oakland, Jersey, Boston or New York, right? Utah and Arizona ranked last (Jared Loughtner was a nut in Tucson...AZ's most liberal town who elects the like of Raul Gravalda). So what state does Costas think we should model better gun laws after? It's a fair question.

Posted by: MostlyRight at December 14, 2012 10:32 AM (w9AQ4)

166 Lanza FB page - facebook.com/rlanza

Posted by: Whatev at December 14, 2012 02:29 PM (2t6Gz)

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CONTENT CURRENTLY UNAVAILABLE

Posted by: Soona at December 14, 2012 10:32 AM (1CXqI)

167 I don't understand Liberals. They want to keep abortion legal, but then they bitch and moan when children are killed.

Depends on who the children is. They don't give a shit if the dead toddler is an Israeli murdered by rockets, for example.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 14, 2012 10:33 AM (/kI1Q)

168 161 Lanza FB page - facebook.com/rlanza Posted by: Whatev at December 14, 2012 02:29 PM

If that's the guy, looks more like a hipster. There goes the MSM tea party angle, looks like it's the "handguns" narrative for them

Posted by: Brian Ross at December 14, 2012 10:34 AM (wwsoB)

169 Depends on who the children is. They don't give a shit if the dead toddler is an Israeli murdered by rockets, for example.

Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ at December 14, 2012 02:33 PM (/kI1Q)

Exactly. Must go through the underdog filter first: Palestinians trump Israeli's, including the children.

Underdogma

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at December 14, 2012 10:35 AM (zpqa2)

170 I know every generation thinks they live in the end times, but dang...

Not to take anything away for this horrific act, but a little perspective might be useful. After the reigns of Genghis Khan, Pol Pot, Hitler, Stalin and Mao. The bubonic plague, the Indonesian tsunami, the earthquake in Haiti, AIDS in Africa, 1918 flu pandemic, Mt. Vesuvius burying Pompeii, etc. The idea that this is the event that signals the end times seems a little anticlimactic. It's pretty bad, no question - but it's not exactly Rwanda in 1998.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at December 14, 2012 10:36 AM (+lsX1)

171 No sane, rational person will ever understand why this happened. It is just like 9/11 in that sense--no sane person can figure this out. We know WHAT happened, but we cannot understand the WHY.

Leftists will spend forever analyzing this situation, trying to suss out the WHY, to no end except what they can twist in their favor. They will make excuses for this pathetic POS because of any number of rationales, but in the end, nobody can know the WHY.

It is the WHAT that needs to be punished, to hell with the WHY. Nobody cares why he did it--that implies that we could somehow have controlled the situation and changed the outcome. If we could have, why didn't we? Because we can't.

Some people are shits. Some people are headed for hell as fast as they can get there.

Posted by: tcn at December 14, 2012 10:37 AM (ZOUmX)

172 Ryan Lanza's Twitter account

https://twitter.com/Ryan__Lanza

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2012 10:38 AM (wwsoB)

173

I actually saw two of our local progs on one of the locals bitching about all the shootings lately, and one mentioned the kinfe attacks. The other said yes, it IS a cultural thing, but she felt safer when she was there, because she is fit and can outrun someone with a knife.

I can't fathom "feeling unsafe" as a natural state (outside of a warzone, or SE DC, or...you know what I mean).

But these ARE the people who are afraid of their food, their clothing, water, breathing, etc ad naus

Posted by: barbarausa at December 14, 2012 10:38 AM (WWeoI)

174

They're now saying that today's shooter may have been the son of the Kindergarden teacher whose class was targeted.

Posted by: wheatie at December 14, 2012 10:39 AM (K4wCe)

175 A thesbian from Hoboken. Mom was a teacher. I wonder who he votes for.

Posted by: Whatev at December 14, 2012 10:39 AM (2t6Gz)

176 This was on a friends FB page -(i Don't know the girl who posted it) "And pray for the thousands of women in Michigan who don't have the right to choose." Umm, yeah, FOAD.

Posted by: RWC at December 14, 2012 10:39 AM (fWAjv)

177 Those first responders are going to be traumatized too.

Posted by: baldilocks via iPad at December 14, 2012 10:40 AM (ogVxN)

178
Not only is it difficult to simply "outrun" a person with a knife intent on cutting you, even if you had a gun, the knife-man has the advantage within 21 feet.

It's true. Unless you already have your weapon unholstered, cocked, ready to fire, and aimed, you're gonna get cut if he's closer than 21 feet.

Knives are bloody awful weapons.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 14, 2012 10:41 AM (G/zuv)

179 His twitter page - I would love if the world ended in 2 weeks, wrote on Dec 2

Posted by: Whatev at December 14, 2012 10:42 AM (2t6Gz)

180 http://cdn.inquisitr.com/438676/ryan-lanza-idd-as-newtown-school-shooting-gunman/

says it wasn't him.
?

Posted by: ette at December 14, 2012 10:42 AM (nqBYe)

181 A skateboarder no less.

Posted by: Butters at December 14, 2012 10:42 AM (NIZHJ)

182

@172

Some men just like to watch the world burn.

Posted by: Jollyroger at December 14, 2012 10:43 AM (t06LC)

183 do i have the same ryan?

Posted by: ette at December 14, 2012 10:43 AM (nqBYe)

184 well when people believe that we are just an accidental collection of cells with no more value than a cabbage leaf, and our consciousness is merely random electrical impulses...then it's understandable how they can do this shit.

Posted by: just me at December 14, 2012 10:43 AM (BqI84)

185 A screenshot circulating on Twitter purports to have recent updates from Lanza denying a connection to the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting:Read more at

Posted by: ette at December 14, 2012 10:44 AM (nqBYe)

186 People just trying to settle scores before the world ends on the 21st.

Jim Jones's kool aid recipe is making the rounds.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at December 14, 2012 10:44 AM (wR+pz)

187 When 24 hour cable first came out this kind of tragic event was supposed to be their forte.

Yet with all of the redundant reports while the anchors stall for time for just about ANYTHING to report, it won't be long before it's reported that watching breaking stories like this cause something akin to post time killing brain cell death disorder or some other lib pop ailment.

I just heard a female doctor on ABC radio (they broke into Rush's show) actually say that people listening to reports of this across the country are in danger of getting PTSD.

The stupid is accelerating.

Posted by: ontherocks at December 14, 2012 10:44 AM (aZ6ew)

188 On Dec 13, 1937, Japanese troops occupied Nanjing - then the capital of China - and killed more than 300,000 Chinese civilians and disarmed soldiers over about six weeks.

Posted by: Gu Xiulan at December 14, 2012 10:45 AM (e8kgV)

189 He plays Skyrim.

Posted by: Butters at December 14, 2012 10:45 AM (NIZHJ)

190 179, I was pretty stunned at the "level" of the conversation, re the "I felt safer there". SafER. She feels unsafe at all times. I can see that as a plan for someone who is already prepared and is knowledgeable, and who is in situations where it is warranted on a regular basis, but two suburban mommies pontificating on a local fb group page? yow.

Posted by: barbarausa at December 14, 2012 10:45 AM (WWeoI)

191 gah, whatever, some Ryan is saying it's not him ,

Posted by: ette at December 14, 2012 10:46 AM (nqBYe)

192 The Twitter guy fits.

Posted by: Butters at December 14, 2012 10:46 AM (NIZHJ)

193 Ryan Lanza is not exactly an unusual name. If the kid is posting to FB that it wasn't him, then it clearly wasn't him, since the actual "him" is dead and being fucked repeatedly in Hell by not only Satan's barbed cock, but the barbed cocks of every demon and wicked imp in the deepest ring of torment.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 14, 2012 10:47 AM (4df7R)

194 so are we looking at he same Ryan?
this one has a black beret on says it isn't him

Posted by: ette at December 14, 2012 10:48 AM (nqBYe)

195 right, there are 4 ryans one page is down.

Posted by: ette at December 14, 2012 10:48 AM (nqBYe)

196 Top Sports Illustrated soccer writer Grant Wahl just went all Bob Costas on Twitter.

"how many times before stricter gun control?" Said Wahl.

Posted by: RoryMiller at December 14, 2012 10:48 AM (IL9gH)

197 LOL - another Ryan Lanza on twitter saying "Why am I trending".

Posted by: Whatev at December 14, 2012 10:48 AM (2t6Gz)

198 Great job by the MSM once again, ID'd the wrong guy who happened to be at work when the shootings happened

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2012 10:49 AM (wwsoB)

199 This one hasn't posted on Twitter in three days and has depressed rants going back several months.

Posted by: Butters at December 14, 2012 10:50 AM (NIZHJ)

200 The term, RUN AMOK, always comes to mind for me.

Posted by: t=dubyah=d at December 14, 2012 10:50 AM (WX65W)

201 Butters link?

Posted by: ette at December 14, 2012 10:51 AM (nqBYe)

202 Dead woman at shooter's house was his mom, a teacher at the school.

Posted by: exdem13 at December 14, 2012 10:51 AM (1GunI)

203 https://twitter.com/Ryan__Lanza

Posted by: Butters at December 14, 2012 10:52 AM (NIZHJ)

204 The stupid is accelerating.

I don't get this thing where people have to insert themselves into every tragedy, like it's all about them.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 14, 2012 10:52 AM (/kI1Q)

205 Great job by the MSM once again, ID'd the wrong guy who happened to be at work when the shootings happened

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2012 02:49 PM (wwsoB)

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Oops. We just didn't hear the name right. Oh well.

Posted by: MFM at December 14, 2012 10:52 AM (1CXqI)

206 mayeb Butters had the page link up before it was taken down?
or just another angry ryan?

Posted by: ette at December 14, 2012 10:52 AM (nqBYe)

207 thanks butter.

Posted by: ette at December 14, 2012 10:52 AM (nqBYe)

208 >>I don't get this thing where people have to insert themselves into every tragedy, like it's all about them.

Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ at December 14, 2012 02:52 PM (/kI1Q)

I think Andy Warhhol invented it.

Gotta grab your 15 when you get your live shot.

Posted by: ontherocks at December 14, 2012 10:54 AM (aZ6ew)

209 Okay....now the story is getting me confused....

Posted by: eleven at December 14, 2012 10:55 AM (fsLdt)

210 Pf course, if something like this happened in 1987 they would have pegged him as playing Dungeons & Dragons.

Of course, in 1987 people left schools alone, unless they were picking up kids or had legit reasons for being there. Only goblins I had to worry about at school were the tame ones in the remedial classes. *sigh* The world is undergoing a change, and it is not for the better.

Posted by: exdem13 at December 14, 2012 10:56 AM (1GunI)

211 I'll have to put on the weather channel when the JEF talks. cold blooded emotion-less liar

Posted by: beach at December 14, 2012 10:57 AM (LpQbZ)

212 Now they're saying on Fox...that the shooter's father has been found dead, too.

Posted by: wheatie at December 14, 2012 10:57 AM (K4wCe)

213 guy seems too young to be a father. dunno

Posted by: ette at December 14, 2012 10:58 AM (nqBYe)

214

I think Andy Warhhol invented it.Gotta grab your 15 when you get your live shot.

The thing Warhol forgot to mention is that that 15 minutes will be pretty fucking lame. Look who's getting their 15 minutes nowdays. Insipid nobodies. So who cares?

It's K-mart bargain bin fame.

Posted by: eleven at December 14, 2012 10:59 AM (fsLdt)

215 Oh, the police found the body of the shooter's father. Amazingly enough (or not) shooter was being treated for "mental illness". Which leads to the point where we as society get to decide to what constitutes mental illness, what constitutes dangerous crazy, and what constitutes plain old goblin doing wrong for kicks and twisted desire for fame?

Posted by: exdem13 at December 14, 2012 10:59 AM (1GunI)

216 or if the drugs he was being treated with fkd him up

Posted by: ette at December 14, 2012 11:00 AM (nqBYe)

217 I think Andy Warhhol invented it.Gotta grab your 15 when you get your live shot.

Warhol did his own stunts. Your 15 minutes are about what YOU do, not about what some jackass five states away does to someone else.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 14, 2012 11:01 AM (/kI1Q)

218

I vote goblin exdem. I vote goblin for all these mutherfuckers.

Just because you're mentally ill doesn't mean you're not a goblin. You're just a goblin with a metal illness.

Posted by: eleven at December 14, 2012 11:02 AM (fsLdt)

219 new tweet on ryan lanza twitter feed -- from him

Posted by: beach at December 14, 2012 11:03 AM (LpQbZ)

220 Posted by: eleven at December 14, 2012 02:59 PM (fsLdt)

15 minutes lasted a half an hour in those days.

Commercial rates have really outpaced inflation and the Mayan Calender.

That's the cosmic collision I'm concerned about.

.......that and the cable bill.

Posted by: ontherocks at December 14, 2012 11:03 AM (aZ6ew)

221 I saw that.

Posted by: Butters at December 14, 2012 11:04 AM (NIZHJ)

222 Kind of a bad day to have that name.

Posted by: Butters at December 14, 2012 11:05 AM (NIZHJ)

223 butter also not him
so i think it's the page that is not available

Posted by: ette at December 14, 2012 11:06 AM (nqBYe)

224 another post up about this.

Posted by: ette at December 14, 2012 11:07 AM (nqBYe)

225 >>Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ at December 14, 2012 03:01 PM (/kI1Q)

I don't think I've a whole 15's worth.

Really interested in mining more material but life with SCOAMF just isn't that funny.

Posted by: ontherocks at December 14, 2012 11:07 AM (aZ6ew)

226

Wife was telling me some immigrant scrunt on Mexican TV is claiming Obama is about to come out with a demand to ban all semi-automatics.

We should stop using the Left's verbage. They don't want gun control, they want gun banning.

Posted by: Invictus at December 14, 2012 11:11 AM (OQpzc)

227 Practically everything is a semi automatic.

Posted by: Butters at December 14, 2012 11:12 AM (NIZHJ)

228 224 Kind of a bad day to have that name. Posted by: Butters at December 14, 2012 03:05 PM (NIZHJ) I don't know... like someone said, could be lawsuit jackpot.

Posted by: KG at December 14, 2012 11:31 AM (p7BzH)

229 217, We did used to put mentally ill people in hospitals created just for them. Then the activists filed suit and got them all out, because after all they are not sick they are just different.

So now they wander the streets and kill people when they crack.

Uh oh, Barky seems to be calling for gun control.

Posted by: PJ at December 14, 2012 11:35 AM (ZWaLo)

230 A study of murder in medieval England found that the murder rate was the same as modern times, except that most people were killed with knives. Everyone carried a knife back then.

Posted by: Tantor at December 14, 2012 01:11 PM (659DL)

231 No word from China on whether the knife-wielder hollered "Allahu Ackbar"???

They *DO* have the worldwide-standard-issue tiny-minority-of-misunderstanders Muslim problem over there, too...

Posted by: A_Nonny_Mouse at December 14, 2012 01:51 PM (hq0VE)

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