July 04, 2012

236 Years Ago Today
— andy

The Declaration of Independence

Happy Independence Day, Morons.

(Open thread)

Posted by: andy at 03:26 AM | Comments (263)
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1 Wheeeeeee.

Posted by: nickless at July 04, 2012 03:27 AM (MMC8r)

2 Happy Birthday to America

Posted by: zeera at July 04, 2012 03:29 AM (XtxRN)

3 With Me in office, it's Dependence Day, Serfs!

While you're at it, re-read the Constitution and see what Inalienable Rights you think you still have.

Posted by: Barky O at July 04, 2012 03:31 AM (i3+c5)

4 Good morning America!  How are you?

Posted by: Rob S at July 04, 2012 03:32 AM (ExKIr)

5 Happy Birthday, America. At 236, she is the ultimate GGGGGGGILF!

Posted by: In Exile at July 04, 2012 03:33 AM (y915K)

6

#5

The Libs are already in line ahead of you.

Posted by: Rob S at July 04, 2012 03:35 AM (ExKIr)

7 Morning, 'rons!

As my old annoying boss used to say:  Have a happy fourth, and take it light on the fifth!

I have never in my life felt so low about the state of this country.  And, I fear all the "takers" have climbed on board Barky's vision for the future of this country and will outnumber any opposition this November.  What's to "celebrate"?  Freedom? Ha.. it is now a joke.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 04, 2012 03:35 AM (UTq/I)

8 Good Morning Morons.  Today is Wednesday, July 04, 2012.  Today is Independence Day, the day in 1776 that the Declaration of Independence was signed, or at least started being signed by members of the Continental Congress. In any event, that is the date affixed to the copy of the Constitution.  Also, on this day in 1826 both John Adams and Thomas Jefferson died.

Posted by: Vic at July 04, 2012 03:37 AM (YdQQY)

9 How bad is the drug violence on the Mexican border getting?  Shades of the Mekong delta, Texas law enforcement is going to patrol the river and inter-coastal waterways with gunboats. One would think the U.S. military would be doing that as outlined in the Constitution.  But no, it seems that our government has taken Bizarro world approach to the Constitution in which they enforce laws and actions not included and ignore the authorities and duties that are.

http://is.gd/frS0fV

Posted by: Vic at July 04, 2012 03:37 AM (YdQQY)

10 our march to freedom in 1776 (& in the war years & beyond) was lead, in part, by Virginians.  This is why I want my Virginia to go red this year to show the country & the world that she still believes.

Posted by: kelley in virginia at July 04, 2012 03:37 AM (p3a8+)

11 MI Governors plan on building a $4B bridge to Canada.  Canada will provide a $500M loan, we the U.S. taxpayer will provide $2B for the bridge plus $264M for a plaza.  And Canada will own the bridge!  And on top of that the bridge is a make-work project that is not needed.   

http://is.gd/yPF6fy

Posted by: Vic at July 04, 2012 03:37 AM (YdQQY)

12 Hahahahaha say it isnÂ’t so.  In NC a bill to override a commie Gov veto of fracking bill was passed with the margin being provided by a Democrat who “pushed the wrong button”, accidentally.

http://is.gd/7muQkK

Posted by: Vic at July 04, 2012 03:38 AM (YdQQY)

13 America has been pretty tough.  It took the commies/socialists/progressives/ruling classes almost 200 years to begin to seriously dismantle its foundation.

I don't give a rat's ass what Obumbles and his ilk think, America is still an exceptional nation, and is well worth fighting for.  The founders had a reason for using the phrase "all enemies foreign and domestic".

God Bless America!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 04, 2012 03:38 AM (i3+c5)

14 6 #5 The Libs are already in line ahead of you. Posted by: Rob S at July 04, 2012 07:35 AM (ExKIr) They are busy lining up to blow Marx's corpse, instead. I am of the perspective that Lady Liberty will never be past her prime.

Posted by: In Exile at July 04, 2012 03:38 AM (y915K)

15 BB says MFM is still coordinating stories with Obama team to smear Romney.

http://is.gd/NIfuQy

Posted by: Vic at July 04, 2012 03:38 AM (YdQQY)

16 More work by the assholes in the federal system to assure SCÂ’s voter ID law will not be in place by November.  They have postponed the court date. SC should file for immediate injunctive relief and if that doesnÂ’t work simply tell Holder to piss up a rope and enforce it anyway. If I were governor I would tell him if he entered the State he would be charged and jailed.  

http://is.gd/l4dKhn

Posted by: Vic at July 04, 2012 03:38 AM (YdQQY)

17 Byron York looks at RobertÂ’s rise in the judicial world and how he may have come in under the radar.  In short, he had very little known record and the fight to nominate him was more of the war with Democrats blocking BushÂ’s nominees.  I say again this is the kind of shit we have to get around by taking the judge nomination power away from Washington and giving it to the States.  That would go a long way to restoring some degree of federalism.

http://is.gd/nukABk

Posted by: Vic at July 04, 2012 03:39 AM (YdQQY)

18 Wow, I had not known this.  Screwed again.  The commie Weather Channel owned by NBC has acquired Weather Underground.  There goes the last decent weather source.

http://is.gd/iJI1JI

Posted by: Vic at July 04, 2012 03:39 AM (YdQQY)

19 And thatÂ’s it for the news this morning.  I will turn loose with this link to a most famous piece of art. (and no it is not Kate Upton)

http://is.gd/9vcfbb

Posted by: Vic at July 04, 2012 03:39 AM (YdQQY)

20 Posted by: Vic at July 04, 2012 07:37 AM (YdQQY)


Now we're outsourcing and offshoring bridges!  Not only did the idiots in office fail math, they never even took Econ 101!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 04, 2012 03:40 AM (i3+c5)

21 He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good. He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them. He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

Posted by: toby928© at July 04, 2012 03:42 AM (QupBk)

22

#7

Stand up again and keep defending America.  George Washington had reverses but kept forging ahead.  The Libs are interested in the concept of destroying his efforts just to see if it can be done.  They have no idea what to do with the residue after the collapse.  They will say that they do but look at the current state of the economy while the Libs are practically in complete control (SCOTUS, Senate, and Presidency).  They are children and completely devoid of ideas that work.  Get back up and don't allow your feelings to control you!

Posted by: Rob S at July 04, 2012 03:42 AM (ExKIr)

23 Yeah that one pissed me off.

Posted by: Vic at July 04, 2012 03:42 AM (YdQQY)

24 LOL, I see Andy has the pic up now.


Andy, mine is bigger.

Posted by: Vic at July 04, 2012 03:43 AM (YdQQY)

25 In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Posted by: toby928© at July 04, 2012 03:45 AM (QupBk)

26 What exactly are we celebrating today?  Oh yeah, our "independence." 

Celebrate it I shall, nonetheless.  Somehow, we must beat these bastards back.  My gggg-uncle, Thomas Stone (Maryland) was one of the signers of the Declaration of Independence.  He didn't even have high cheekbones.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 04, 2012 03:45 AM (vOMX+)

27 That part of the Declaration about people dissolving the political bands which have connected them with one another reminds me how much I want a divorce from the libs.

We have irreconcilable differences.

I'll keep my guns, HSA/catastrophic health insurance plan and Laissez-faire capitalism, and they can have their gun-free, single-payer socialist utopia. Until they run out of other people's money, anyway.

Posted by: Andy at July 04, 2012 03:45 AM (NSHE+)

28 Who else is working today?

Posted by: toby928© at July 04, 2012 03:46 AM (QupBk)

29 Rasmussen says that 26% of those polled do NOT know what the 4th of July celebrates.  I don't think he asked but I would guess 99.9% of them are Obama supporters.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at July 04, 2012 03:49 AM (hlUJY)

30 I don 't see what King George did that was so wrong.

Posted by: John Roberts, total asshat at July 04, 2012 03:51 AM (uhAkr)

31 Make no mistake about it.  We are engaged in a second war for independence.

Posted by: Libra at July 04, 2012 03:51 AM (kd8U8)

32 Happy Birthday, America! Still a great people and great country, no matter what idiot is at the helm.


Posted by: Timothy S. Carlson at July 04, 2012 03:52 AM (I8Odr)

33

Happy Independence Day, America!

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 04, 2012 03:52 AM (BAS5M)

34 The British Empire could not defeat us. Nazi Germany could not defeat us. The Japanese Empire could not defeat us. The Soviet Union could not defeat us. Red China could not defeat us. I refuse to now be defeated by a bunch of sandal wearing, dope smoking, hole in the blue jeans, lost in the 60s, draft dodging, little commie wanna be creeptoids. I simply refuse to be defeated.

Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Lord Collingwood (mentioned in dispatches) at July 04, 2012 03:54 AM (m7blM)

35 Posted by: Bill Mitchell at July 04, 2012 07:49 AM (hlUJY)


And of that 26%, how many speak English and how many are illegal aliens? 

Unfortunately, with the quality of public education, most of them may actually be legal citizens.

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 04, 2012 03:54 AM (i3+c5)

36 28- ME! and after 2 yrs couldn't be happier bout it.

Posted by: whiskey tango at July 04, 2012 03:54 AM (JvP2I)

37 toby928 -  I'm working, er at work.  For another 6 minutes anyway. After that, it's weed pullin' time in the garden.  Before the 100 degree heat kicks in

Posted by: zeera at July 04, 2012 03:55 AM (XtxRN)

38 Ee'dplebnista norkohn forkohn perfectunun

Posted by: Cloud William at July 04, 2012 03:55 AM (QupBk)

39 Actually, Obama has oppressive powers that George III never dreamed of and would never have dared to use if he had them!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 04, 2012 03:56 AM (i3+c5)

40 Happy Independence Day to all y'all!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at July 04, 2012 03:56 AM (gznAu)

41 Morning all..

When you hear the bullshit that Roberts' rationale for his stupidity was that he was reluctant to overturn a  law duly enacted by Congress, remember all the unethical and possibly criminal behavior the Dems engaged in to get this forced down our throats.

Who could forget"demon pass"?. There was all kinds coercion, thuggery, and outright ignoring the legal system

This gives a nice rundown of much of the shit the Dems abetted by the MFM did..

http://tinyurl.com/c859qek

Happy 4th. Have fun. Blow some shit up. Then, get to work to throw these f*ckers out

Posted by: Albie Damned at July 04, 2012 03:58 AM (Yhu4q)

42 Also, the Battle of Gettysburg ended on July 4th.

Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at July 04, 2012 03:59 AM (GkwjL)

43 Both 'sides' could make claim of the other side being domestic enemies. Just depends on what side you choose and then you can list them.

That's the beauty of living in the bubble. It stands to reason the leftists and statists are my domestic enemies and nothing they can do will change that.

Posted by: GW McLintock at July 04, 2012 03:59 AM (3uLaE)

44 While you're at it, re-read the Constitution and see what Inalienable Rights you think you still have.

Posted by: Barky O at July 04, 2012 07:31 AM (i3+c5)



It's unalienable, Barky, a mistake from you that doesn't surprise me. Have you actually read what I wrote?

Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at July 04, 2012 04:01 AM (I2fq9)

45 43 Both 'sides' could make claim of the other side being domestic enemies. Just depends on what side you choose and then you can list them. That's the beauty of living in the bubble. It stands to reason the leftists and statists are my domestic enemies and nothing they can do will change that. Posted by: GW McLintock at July 04, 2012 07:59 AM (3uLaE) Get thee behind me relativist

Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at July 04, 2012 04:01 AM (GkwjL)

46 That painting has always brought tears to my eyes. Today, thanks to John (spit) Roberts, they were tears of shame. Sorry, gentlemen. We blew it.

Posted by: phunctor at July 04, 2012 04:02 AM (EwQm5)

47 Happy 4th, y'all! What a great country.

Posted by: BP NJ at July 04, 2012 04:03 AM (ph70Q)

48 >>America is still an exceptional nation, and is well worth fighting for.

Part of celebrating Independence Day is remembering why our forefathers fought and what they accomplished. Thanks to them, we live in the greatest country in the world. Don't let the Libtards (communists) tell you otherwise. Happy Fourth of July Morons!

Posted by: sickinmass at July 04, 2012 04:03 AM (bcNec)

49 I love my country.  The good ol' U.S.A.  But, I'm sorry to say, I have contempt for our national government.  And I don't see that changing until they start upholding our Constitution.

Posted by: Case at July 04, 2012 04:06 AM (QwurB)

50 Hahahahaha say it isn’t so. In NC a bill to override a commie Gov veto of fracking bill was passed with the margin being provided by a Democrat who “pushed the wrong button”, accidentally.

Thus proving that G-d does have a sense of humor.


Posted by: Retread at July 04, 2012 04:07 AM (I2fq9)

51 I rely on private enterprise AccuWeather. Santorum got pilloried because he wanted to shit can the NWS and use them instead.

Ann Coulter saw Roberts coming from miles away.

Posted by: Ed Anger Issues at July 04, 2012 04:08 AM (7+pP9)

52 Perhaps that is why the commie AGW weather channel decided to take them over. Next will be Accuweather but they are not as good.

Posted by: Vic at July 04, 2012 04:10 AM (YdQQY)

53 Today's celebrity birthdays: The United States Of America Calvin Coolidge (POTUS #30) Ulysses S. Grant III (The general's grandson) Louis B. Mayer (movie mogul) Rube Goldberg (contraptions) Gloria Stuart (old Rose) Ann Landers (bite-size advice) Leona Helmsley (bitch on wheels) Eva Marie Saint (almost fell off of Mount Rushmore) Gina Lollobrigida (va va voom) Neil Simon (wrote plays about loud people arguing) Chuck Tanner (Pirates manager) George Steinbrenner (Imperious Leader) Bill Withers (oh yeah) Geraldo Rivera (gave Capone's ghost a chuckle) Andre Spitzer (1972 Munich victim) John Waite (yes, but is she missing you?) Mark Belling (frequent Rush guest host) Koko (good with her hands)

Posted by: Gran at July 04, 2012 04:13 AM (CPX+P)

54 Get thee behind me relativist Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil

The very last thing I'll ever be accused of is a relativist. Just pointing out leftists take part in the same thing, musing about the decay of the country due to the right wing cabal.

I don't agree with their premise.

Posted by: GW McLintock at July 04, 2012 04:13 AM (3uLaE)

55
>>Make no mistake about it. We are engaged in a second war for independence.

>>..remember all the unethical and possibly criminal behavior the Dems engaged in to get this forced down our throats.


Buckle up, itÂ’s going to be a bumpy ride...

In 1832, the threat of nullification by States that opposed tariffs on imported goods came close to bringing about a civil war. Thirty years later as cries for the abolition of slavery reached a fever pitch the War Between the States would begin.

Today, in the wake of the Supreme Court decision that found that the Affordable Health Care Act is constitutional and thereby the law of the land. Republican Governors are lining up to say they will not obey it.

Not only has President Obama and the Democrat Party imposed an enormously unpopular law on the nation, they have initiated a huge constitutional crisis.

Nullification is a constitutional theory that gives an individual state the right to declare null and void any law passed by the United States Congress which the State deems unacceptable and unconstitutional. In a debate in the late 1700s, both James Madison and Thomas Jefferson, in the Virginia and Kentucky Resolutions (179 came down on the side of nullification if a State concluded that the federal government had overstepped its limits of jurisprudence.

In ruling that Obamacare cannot use the Commerce Clause as its justification, the Supreme Court kicked the Act back to Congress, ruling that it is a tax and that Congress has the right to place such taxes on the citizens of the nation. The Obama administration maintained that Obamacare was not a tax until the case was argued before the Court. It then conceded that it was. Asshats.

The least troublesome response is to wait for November to remove for office every Senator and Representative who voted for Obamacare and who is up for reelection along with Obama.

The most troublesome response would reflect the crisis that occurred when Andrew Jackson was President. On December 11, 1832, Jackson issued a proclamation that he would use force to uphold the right of Congress to enact tariffs which were widely seen as a burden on the southern States. Several compromises ensued.

State Governors have already announced they will not enforce it

Thus, President Obama has set the stage for a major constitutional crisis. He could, in theory, declare martial law to defend Obamacare and this is not just an idle threat. Fasten your seat belts.


Posted by: sickinmass at July 04, 2012 04:14 AM (bcNec)

56 Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at July 04, 2012 08:01 AM (I2fq9)

But I'm a former ConLaw Professor Lecturer, so who you are to lecture ME!

Posted by: Barky O at July 04, 2012 04:15 AM (i3+c5)

57
Physicists say they've found evidence of 'God particle'
           
To cheers and standing ovations from scientists, the world's biggest atom smasher claimed the discovery of a new subatomic particle Wednesday, calling it "consistent" with the long-sought Higgs boson -- popularly known as the "God particle"




I slam the door

boom

When I come into the bedroom

wham bam

Cause I'm the king of the castle

na na na

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 04, 2012 04:18 AM (kdS6q)

58 Posted by: sickinmass at July 04, 2012 08:14 AM (bcNec)

Good thing they don't teach that American history stuff in skool anymore, it might konfuze the chirrens.

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 04, 2012 04:19 AM (i3+c5)

59 SECOND PARAGRAPH! 2ND PARAGRAPH! Government should only exist to safeguard the rights God put on us like white on rice. Yup, inalienable. Is the average Joe better off now or under George III in terms of Liberty? (Note that Social Justice is none of the government's business.)

Posted by: Thorvald at July 04, 2012 04:21 AM (1V6Pv)

60 Today's celebrity deathdays: Thomas Jefferson (POTUS #3) John Adams (POTUS #2) James Monroe (POTUS #5 - "doctrine, motherf***er! do you speak it?") Hannibal Hamlin (VPOTUS #15, 1st GOP Veep) Yonatan Netanyahu (Bibi's older bro, died at Entebbe) Eva Gabor (goodbye city life!) Bob Ross (nice 'fro) Charles Kuralt (reminds me of sleepy Sunday mornings for some reason) Barry White (oh, baby...) Jesse Helms (tobacco subsidies, dude? really?) RIP.

Posted by: Gran at July 04, 2012 04:23 AM (CPX+P)

61
Michigan Republican Gov. Rick Snyder has vetoed bills sponsored by his own party that would have required some voters to show a photo ID before they could get an absentee ballot and mandated extra training for groups registering voters.

He also vetoed legislation to require voters to reaffirm their U.S. citizenship before receiving a ballot.




Yep. party of stupid.  That's us.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 04, 2012 04:24 AM (kdS6q)

62 Posted by: JB1000 at July 04, 2012 08:19 AM (wqC7o)


The first thing I thought of was she was one of those "endangered" Democrats and meant to do that "mistake".  But if that news article is correct she tried to get to change it to a no.  The Republicans would not let her because NC law makes no provision for changing your vote after it is cast.



I suspect that if the Dems held the majority there they would have allowed her to change it anyway.

Posted by: Vic at July 04, 2012 04:25 AM (YdQQY)

63
>>Good thing they don't teach that American history stuff in skool anymore, it might konfuze the chirrens.


As if President Obama has not already driven the nationÂ’s economy to the brink of collapse and his administration has opposed enforcement of the Defense of Marriage Act, and has opposed ArizonaÂ’s efforts to secure its borders and its right to protect its citizens from illegal aliens, Obama has now brought about a crisis comparable to that which launched the Civil War.

As you sit there eating Cheetos switching between Pr0n and AoS on this Fourth of July , the current President has created a firestorm of opposition that initially led to the Tea Party movement and the 2010 midterm elections that returned power to the Republican Party in the House of Representatives. Major forces are emerging and aligning to stop Obamacare anyway they can.

This is occurring as a case before a Florida court challenges Obama’s eligibility to be on that State’s ballot. Florida law is unique in that it gives the average voter greater freedom to challenge eligibility and fraud than other States. More than a hundred legal cases nationwide have been brought over his eligibility. The Constitution specifically states that the President must be “a natural born citizen” with both parents being citizens of the United States.

ObamaÂ’s father was a citizen of Kenya.

Posted by: sickinmass at July 04, 2012 04:25 AM (bcNec)

64 A work friend of mine used Weather Underground because it was low graphics. He lived in the boondocks and had dial up. He liked Weather Underground.

I used to use The Weather Channel because my boss did and he called the shots on rain days. Their forecasts were consistently wrong. After I got laid off I went to AcccuWeather and never tried anything else. Maybe it's because they're PA based, but their local for my area are rarely off.

Posted by: Ed Anger Issues at July 04, 2012 04:26 AM (7+pP9)

65 Maybe it's because they're PA based, but their local for my area are rarely off.

Posted by: Ed Anger Issues at July 04, 2012 08:26 AM (7+pP9)


They are the most accurate for here in SC as well. TWC cares more about "show" and politics than weather.

Posted by: Vic at July 04, 2012 04:27 AM (YdQQY)

66 Posted by: Thorvald at July 04, 2012 08:21 AM (1V6Pv)

One might say that an American colonist was better off under George III than an American citizen subject is under Obama and the ruling classes today.

I don't think a British subject of today is better off than we are.  Monarchies are not a good idea even in the short run, although they might have the best of intentions!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 04, 2012 04:28 AM (i3+c5)

67 But I'm a former ConLaw Professor Lecturer, so who you are to lecture ME!

Posted by: Barky O at July 04, 2012 08:15 AM (i3+c5)


Did you need a TelePrompter for that, too?


And who am I to lecture you? I'm the author. Need I bring up that favorite phrase of certain scoundrels? Supreme Moral Authority.

Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at July 04, 2012 04:30 AM (I2fq9)

68 It's ironic that we celebrate the birth of our Independence so closely after suffering the single biggest potential setback to individual independence in our nation's history.

The commies will pay lip service to today's historic importance while continuing to plot the enslavement of an ever larger group of unwitting Americans.

God help us and bless America. Enjoy your shrinking list of freedoms and let's kick some commie ass in November.

Happy and healthy Fourth to all morons and 'ettes, and keep faith in the uniqueness of our history and ongoing duties and responsibilities. 

Posted by: ontherocks at July 04, 2012 04:31 AM (aZ6ew)

69 America, F#$% Yeah! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhnUgAaea4M

Posted by: Bud McSpudsbath at July 04, 2012 04:31 AM (aanT8)

70
The Republicans would not let her because NC law makes no provision for changing your vote after it is cast.

That's not quite right. They can change their vote if it does not change the outcome of the overall vote. In this case her vote was the deciding one so according to law she couldn't change it.

Posted by: Ed Anger Issues at July 04, 2012 04:32 AM (7+pP9)

71 Yep. party of stupid. That's us.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 04, 2012 08:24 AM (kdS6q)


We continue to excel at our chosen profession (which is selling you out) and earning the much coveted appellation of the stupid party!  The dems have almost managed to snatch it away from us on several occasions, but we always have a trick or two up our sleeve (like nominating John McCain).  As soon as our professionals take over Romney's campaign, you'll see first hand what experience can do!

Posted by: Karl Rover at July 04, 2012 04:33 AM (i3+c5)

72 >> The Constitution specifically states that the President must be “a natural born citizen” with both parents being citizens of the United States.

Ummm ... no.

Posted by: Andy at July 04, 2012 04:35 AM (NSHE+)

73 Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at July 04, 2012 08:30 AM (I2fq9)


Pffft (looks left to teleprompter).

You are a dead white guy and more than 100 years old.  What possible relevance can anything you said have today in our modern world?  You don't even know what a Blackberrry is!

Posted by: Barky O at July 04, 2012 04:35 AM (i3+c5)

74 Bill Whittle on The Glorious Fourth: http://youtu.be/la_6bX7_O4M

Posted by: Gran at July 04, 2012 04:36 AM (CPX+P)

75 Posted by: Jefferson, Adams, et. al. at July 04, 2012 08:38 AM (cjTjM)

I think 140 years is more like it!

Posted by: Woodrow Wilson at July 04, 2012 04:39 AM (i3+c5)

76
Fines for dozens of Los Angeles parking violations will jump another $5 this summer, as Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa and the City Council continue shifting more of the city's budget woes onto motorists.

In what has become a recurring search for summer cash at City Hall, the council voted unanimously to increase parking fines for the sixth time in seven years. The increases will apply to the 2.5 million city parking tickets issued annually and are expected to generate an extra $8.4 million in the next year for the city's general fund budget.

Under the parking proposal, the fine for an expired meter will increase to $63; tickets for parking on street sweeping day will cost $73; and parking in a red zone will carry a $93 penalty. A few violations — those dealing with handicapped parking —will go up by $10.

Villaraigosa initially wanted fines for roughly a dozen violations, including illegally parking on street sweeping day, to go up by $10. After the public complained, council members opted for a $5 increase on a larger number of parking violations.

The council made both decisions before going on a two-week break.

LA Time




SofaB!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 04, 2012 04:40 AM (kdS6q)

77 State Governors have already announced they will not enforce it

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I thought they just weren't going to enforce the expansion of Medicaid part.  The rest of this bitch will still be applicable.  However, it's safe to argue I don't know the nitty gritty here.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 04, 2012 04:40 AM (vOMX+)

78 "Brian Fahling, senior trial attorney for the American Family Association Center for Law Policy,
told WND he has read enough of RobertsÂ’ opinions to know that the
judgeÂ’s involvement in the Romer case does not undermine his commitment
to judicial restraint.

“I am absolutely convinced that this does not suggest differently,” Fahling said.

But Fahling added that, personally speaking, he could never be involved in such a case.
“It seems [Roberts is] a faithful Catholic, and for him to be on the
front end of a case that literally put a dagger squarely into the moral
heart of America – there are as some incongruities there,” Fahling said." http://tinyurl.com/73l56aa
the article also has a laundry list of conservative "rubber stampers"...

Posted by: lyber tee at July 04, 2012 04:41 AM (oZfic)

79 Yep. party of stupid. That's us.

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Jeebus.  {face freaking palm}  And Michigan, no less.  Great.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 04, 2012 04:41 AM (vOMX+)

80 @iowahawkblog Before celebrating liberty today, make sure you have the proper permits. #AMessageFromTheUSDepartmentofDepartmentDepartments

Posted by: Retread at July 04, 2012 04:42 AM (I2fq9)

81 Both of my local commie rags ran editorial cartoons featuring Uncle Sam today. One had him wearing a T shirt that said "Feeling Stronger Every Day."

Both cartoons were very patriotic and positive. During the Bush years they used to run crap like Uncle Sam wearing a ball and chain on the 4th.

I'm sure they know their boy's number is up this November and so they're in full cheerleader mode. I can hardly wait for the devastation they're gonna experience.

Posted by: Ed Anger Issues at July 04, 2012 04:43 AM (7+pP9)

82 When raising revenue becomes the basis of your fines you invite abuse and corruption.  Of course I understand that is the norm in L.A. anyway. They gave up Joe Friday in the LAPD a long damned time ago.

Posted by: Vic at July 04, 2012 04:43 AM (YdQQY)

83 Physicists say they've found evidence of 'God particle'

YeaBut, ain't theyse lil debils.  The devil is in the details, etc.

Posted by: DaveA at July 04, 2012 04:44 AM (864A5)

84 The new TV show would be renamed from Dragnet to Drugnuts.

Posted by: Vic at July 04, 2012 04:45 AM (YdQQY)

85 It's ironic that we celebrate the birth of our Independence so closely after suffering the single biggest potential setback to individual independence in our nation's history.

We severed the chains of Britain only to end up with the same totalitarian collectivism they currently enjoy.

Posted by: HeatherRadish has a headache at July 04, 2012 04:47 AM (hO8IJ)

86 "Limbaugh says Republicans and those on the political right truly need to realize, “We lost a huge case in the Supreme Court. There is no silver lining. What now has to happen is we regroup. We have to inform as many fellow citizens as possible what is in store for them, their freedom, their health care, their lives, the lives of their children or grandchildren, if this stands." http://tinyurl.com/6tuze9k

Posted by: lyber tee at July 04, 2012 04:47 AM (oZfic)

87 Dragnet to Drugnuts.

Oww!

Posted by: DaveA at July 04, 2012 04:48 AM (864A5)

88
>>God help us and bless America. Enjoy your shrinking list of freedoms and let's kick some commie ass in November.


 Most Americans who value their liberty realize by now that the survival of their life as a free people is currently endangered by a threat greater than any it has faced since the founding of the United States. This threat manifests itself in every facet of the nation's existence. However, as a practical matter the threat is rooted in the fact that America's elites have abandoned the commitment to government of, by and for the people that was characteristic of the outstanding individuals who informed and articulated the thinking responsible for America's break with the British monarchy; the thinking that ultimately gave rise to the Constitution of the United States.

 In every walk of life and especially in everything that has to do with government and politics, most members of what I call the elite faction have substantiated or fallen prey to a moral and intellectual culture that rejects the idea that lawful government requires a republican form, derived from the general consent of the people.


The whole point of the elitist party scam is to "hide in plain sight" the elite faction's hostility to the species of republican government established by America's founders. Thanks to their more blatant embrace of socialism, with its foundation in supposedly "scientific" materialism, it's hardly necessary to dwell at length on the Democrat Party's evident rejection of America's founding principles. Democrats are almost universally the champions of secularist political doctrines and approaches. As a result they demand that, as a matter of Constitutional law, all concepts that assume or refer to the Creator be banished, not only from law and politics but from any public arena or activity in which the government is involved or which it even indirectly supports. Where the Creator is banished there obviously can be no place for right endowed with His authority, or for any premises of government dependent upon that endowment.

As all the principles of American republicanism are derived from such premises, beginning with the requirement that just government must be empowered by the consent of the governed, neither those principles nor the Constitution framed in light of them, can long survive God's exile.

The so-called Republican Party masks this hostile behind the claims that it upholds the Constitution of the American Republic. In recent times, however, it has become increasingly hard to miss its failure to do so..ex:

-neglects or openly rejects the principles of the Revolution, beginning with the premise of God endowed right.
-purposefully thwarts the genius of the people of America, and
 -systematically denigrates, undermines and corrupts the people's capacity for self-government.

 But this is especially true with respect to the Party's abandonment of the moral principles of the American Revolution, those which justify and support constitutional self-government of, by and for the people.


Posted by: sickinmass at July 04, 2012 04:50 AM (bcNec)

89 Hey, Gran.  Thanks for the birthday and death days every morning.  I love your comments.

And, yes, Bob Ross had a most awesome 'fro!  I still find his painting shows on once in a while.  His shows are perfect for napping to - he has such a soothing voice.  Almost as good as golf for putting you right to sleep!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 04, 2012 04:51 AM (UTq/I)

90 You don't even know what a Blackberrry is!

Posted by: Barky O at July 04, 2012 08:35 AM (i3+c5)


Certainly I know what a blackberry is, a gift of Nature intended to be enjoyed on a hot summer's afternoon, or turned into jam for the morning toast.

In my day we enjoyed speaking to each other in person, face to face.

And next time, please, not so many rs. Attention in small things is the mark of a cultured and well-educated man.

Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at July 04, 2012 04:52 AM (I2fq9)

91 Posted by: Lady in Black at July 04, 2012 08:40 AM (vOMX+)

States can fight back by refusing to set up exchanges.

The fun part is that though there is a provision in OgabeCare that if states do refuse to set up exchanges, the Feds can step in to do it themselves...but they neglected to put in a mechanism to fund it.

If enough of the states that joined in the suit against OgabeCare decided to refuse to set up the exchanges, it would seriously mess with the implementation.

Posted by: Albie Damned at July 04, 2012 04:52 AM (Yhu4q)

92 Happy Un-Independence Day everyone

Posted by: Albie Damned at July 04, 2012 04:53 AM (Yhu4q)

93 Very inspiring visit to Monmouth Battlefield yesterday. June 1778. 90 minutes of point blank shooting in baking heat. How did NJ go from "The Crossroads of the Revolution" to blue state ghetto welfare shithole?

Posted by: BP NJ at July 04, 2012 04:54 AM (ph70Q)

94 Ask not what you can do for your country, ask what you can do for me!

Posted by: King Barack Hussein Obama Mmmmm Mmmmm Mmmm at July 04, 2012 04:55 AM (choQ2)

95 Yankee Doodle went to town,Riding on a pony;He stuck a feather in his hat,And called it macaroni

Doodle was a fool, macaroni was a type of wig used by fops of the day.  The song was originally used by the British to make fun of the locals.

Posted by: Vic at July 04, 2012 04:56 AM (YdQQY)

96 We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness

Posted by: A bunch of dead white guys at July 04, 2012 04:58 AM (Yhu4q)

97 The pixies took our formating!

Posted by: Vic Dorfman at July 04, 2012 04:58 AM (YdQQY)

98 How did NJ go from "The Crossroads of the Revolution" to blue state ghetto welfare shithole? One word Liberals

Posted by: Sean Bannion at July 04, 2012 04:58 AM (choQ2)

99
>>If enough of the states that joined in the suit against OgabeCare decided to refuse to set up the exchanges, it would seriously mess with the implementation.


Florida’s Governor, Rick Scott, has declared his State will not comply with the overhaul of the nation’s health care system—its nationalization by the federal government. Earlier, the Missouri legislature passed a bill in its House of Representatives declaring Obamacare null and void for the second time. It would prohibit the establishment of an exchange without the consent by vote of the people of Missouri.

In Louisiana, Gov. Bobby Jindal has declared his opposition to Obamacare as has WisconsinÂ’s Gov. Scott Walker, both of whom urged other States to refuse to implement the law.

Just as South Carolina led the opposition during President Jackson’s time, Sen. Jim DeMint has called on “every governor to stop implementing the health care exchanges.” Despite the Supreme Court’s ruling that states can opt out of a Medicaid expansion, there is nothing Jindal and Walker can do to prevent health insurance exchanges from being set up in their States.

Posted by: sickinmass at July 04, 2012 04:58 AM (bcNec)

100 72 +Also, the Battle of Gettysburg ended on July 4th.+ Actually Lee began the withdrawal on the 4th, but for all intents and purposes it was over when Pickett/Pettigrew were repulsed at Cemetery Hill the previous afternoon. Sorry ifI sound pedantic---it's my hobby. Posted by: USS Diversity at July 04, 2012 08:33 AM (cjTjM) Have you tried fishing, that's a great hobby and less pedantic...

Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at July 04, 2012 04:58 AM (GkwjL)

101 Drink AMERICAN beer today! Not Bud (Belgium). Not Miller (South Africa). Not Coors (Canadian). No LaRaza beer (Tecate, Corona piss). Enjoy a nice Yeungling Lager. Or a Sierra Nevada. Or Sam Adams. Or Victory Prima Pils. What, too early?

Posted by: BP NJ at July 04, 2012 04:59 AM (ph70Q)

102
IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America...

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.



Preach it, Jeff.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 04, 2012 05:00 AM (kdS6q)

103 How about a Rolling Rock?

Posted by: Gran at July 04, 2012 05:01 AM (CPX+P)

104 I love America.

Posted by: sickinmass at July 04, 2012 05:01 AM (bcNec)

105 @92 Thanks!

Posted by: Gran at July 04, 2012 05:02 AM (CPX+P)

106 101 How did NJ go from "The Crossroads of the Revolution" to blue state ghetto welfare shithole? One word Liberals Posted by: Sean Bannion at July 04, 2012 08:58 AM (choQ2) Liberals moving from New York to escape the morass caused by them voting for the welfare statism and bringing it to NJ. The GOP have one chance in the early Ninties to fix it and dropped the ball.

Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at July 04, 2012 05:02 AM (GkwjL)

107 Despite the Supreme CourtÂ’s ruling that states can opt out of a Medicaid expansion, there is nothing Jindal and Walker can do to prevent health insurance exchanges from being set up in their States. Maybe some Moron can put me some knowledge... Someone has to run those exchanges. I was under the impression it would be the states, via funding from the Feds. Yes? No? If I am right, all Jindal has to do is not hire anyone to run the exchange.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at July 04, 2012 05:03 AM (choQ2)

108 @109 Right. And after screwing up NJ, they moved to NC and got a Dem Gov elected.

Posted by: Gran at July 04, 2012 05:04 AM (CPX+P)

109 "How did NJ go from "The Crossroads of the Revolution" to blue state ghetto welfare shithole?

Posted by: BP NJ at July 04, 2012 08:54 AM (ph70Q)"

We're working on it, we're working on it!

Posted by: corey booker and Chris Christie at July 04, 2012 05:04 AM (oZfic)

110 Have you tried fishing, that's a great hobby and less pedantic...

Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at July 04, 2012 08:58 AM (GkwjL)


Yeah, fishing's a great hobby, but only if you buy the right gear and tackle, know how to tie knots the right way, know the behaviors of certain species, etc.

Let me tell you how I do it....

Posted by: Albie Damned at July 04, 2012 05:04 AM (Yhu4q)

111 53 Today's celebrity birthdays: Posted by: Gran at July 04, 2012 08:13 AM (CPX+P) One more: July 4, 1903, Charlie Monroe, brother of Bill Monroe, born in Rosine, Kentucky.

Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at July 04, 2012 05:04 AM (GkwjL)

112 Saw to say the pride of Latrobe, PA, Rolling Rock, was acquired by Bud (InBev-Belgium) in '08. Sorry, Rolling Rock is no longer brewed in Latrobe nor American owned.

Posted by: BP NJ at July 04, 2012 05:05 AM (ph70Q)

113 *Sad

Posted by: BP NJ at July 04, 2012 05:05 AM (ph70Q)

114 Charlie Monroe?!?!?! That guy owes me money!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at July 04, 2012 05:06 AM (choQ2)

115 Don't get me started on those InBev assholes.

Posted by: nickless at July 04, 2012 05:06 AM (MMC8r)

116 111 @109 Right. And after screwing up NJ, they moved to NC and got a Dem Gov elected. Posted by: Gran at July 04, 2012 09:04 AM (CPX+P) I think the development of RTP was a factor, also. A lot of people from Boston and California moved to NC in the 1990s.

Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at July 04, 2012 05:07 AM (GkwjL)

117 Celebrate it I shall, nonetheless. Somehow, we must beat these bastards back. My gggg-uncle, Thomas Stone (Maryland) was one of the signers of the Declaration of Independence. He didn't even have high cheekbones.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 04, 2012 07:45 AM (vOMX

And so shall I, to the ballot box in November!

My gggg-grandfather was an indentured servant to Charles Carroll of Carrollton, another of the Maryland signers. Said grandfather was booted out of Old Blighty and his son fought in the Revolution in the state militia. I won't give up the country they won for me without a fight.

Posted by: Retread at July 04, 2012 05:08 AM (I2fq9)

118 Oh well. I didn't know about Rolling Rock's buyout. Wikipedia says it's brewed in NJ now...?

Posted by: Gran at July 04, 2012 05:08 AM (CPX+P)

119

11 - That's a pretty slanted article concerning the new bridge between Windsor and Detroit.  Here's an alternate view:  http://tinyurl.com/76rgybq

And the math doesn't seem sinister to me:  The US is paying $2B, Canada is paying $2B - pretty fair, for an international bridge.  Only Canada is ALSO paying Michigan's share of $550M, because that state is too broke to put up any money at all.  Why is this such a rotten deal for the US?   It sounds pretty good.  It's not a bridge to nowhere: Canada is a huge trading partner for the US, and that particular bottleneck in crossing the border has been a problem for years.  If all the stimulus projects were as logical and useful as this, America might have shaken off its economic torpor 2 years ago.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at July 04, 2012 05:08 AM (KOHFD)

120 Posted by: Retread at July 04, 2012 08:42 AM (I2fq9)

Classic!

Posted by: Albie Damned at July 04, 2012 05:09 AM (Yhu4q)

121

I wish I was as optimistic as some of you on the state of our Union.  I was at Denny's this morning having breakfast with Mr. Jaimo and all of a sudden dread and fear just washed over me and I found my eyes tearing up, my hubby thinks I'm an idiot for taking this stuff so seriously.

I'm scared I will lose my health insurance paid for by my employer and be penalized by the Government because I won't be able to afford to get a comparable plan or if a comparable plan is even available, since it seems that Obama wants us all to be on the bare minimum so we will all be "equal".  Equally fucked that is.

Hanging my flag upside down today.

Posted by: Jaimo at July 04, 2012 05:09 AM (KWKOC)

122 >>Maybe some Moron can put me some knowledge...


ALL you need to know:

In the summer of 1776 our Founding Fathers gathered in Philadelphia to decide not whether they would tell King George III they had had enough, but how to word their message.  They wanted nothing about our Declaration of Independence to be ambiguous.

They explained that it had become necessary to dissolve the political bands that connected them to England because they were entitled by God to have certain inalienable rights the British Crown refused to recognize.  Our Founding Fathers confidently proclaimed the truths they relied upon were self-evident. To ground their declaration in logic they presented a list of evils and abuses George III had committed. It reads like a criminal indictment.  Here are some of the charges they listed against the English King.

 He refused to follow laws.

He forbade state governors from passing laws that would benefit their people. Moreover he completely ignored laws he didnÂ’t like.   

He refused requests for laws that would help people unless the districts they lived in agreed to give up genuine representation in their legislature.

He obstructed the laws for naturalization of foreigners.

He obstructed the administration of justice, by refusing his assent to laws for establishing judiciary powers.

He made judges dependent on his will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He erected a multitude of new offices, and sent out swarms of officers to harass our people, and “eat out their substance.”

He combined with others to subject Americans to a jurisdiction foreign to us and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his assent to their acts of pretended legislation.

 He imposed taxes on us without our consent.

The similarity between our predicament in 1776 and what Barack Obama has inflicted upon us today is eerie.  With no alternative our Founding Fathers picked up guns and took to the streets to fight for their freedoms. We canÂ’t do that today, but we can take to the streets and work to win our freedoms in November.

When you do we must vote conservative!!

Posted by: sickinmass at July 04, 2012 05:11 AM (bcNec)

123 I forgot a birthday - Pauline "Dear Abby" Phillips, Ann Landers' twin sister.

Posted by: Gran at July 04, 2012 05:11 AM (CPX+P)

124 Reasons To Be Proud Of The United States Generosity Creativity, Productivity, and Innovation Freedom of Religion Entrepreneurial Spirit Compassion in War Ability to Right Past Wrongs

Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at July 04, 2012 05:14 AM (GkwjL)

125 Oh well. I didn't know about Rolling Rock's buyout. Wikipedia says it's brewed in NJ now...?

Posted by: Gran at July 04, 2012 09:08 AM (CPX+P)

gone from using crystal clear mountain water from western PA to brewing with water from the Newark municipal  treatment facilities

Posted by: Albie Damned at July 04, 2012 05:15 AM (Yhu4q)

126
It's not a bridge to nowhere: Canada is a huge trading partner for the US, and that particular bottleneck in crossing the border has been a problem for years. If all the stimulus projects were as logical and useful as this, America might have shaken off its economic torpor 2 years ago.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at July 04, 2012 09:08 AM (KOHFD)


With all of the environmental impact and cultural resource studies, plus other shit, construction won't start for five to seven years from now.

Posted by: Ed Anger Issues at July 04, 2012 05:15 AM (7+pP9)

127 Freedom of Religion Well, let's not get all crazy there. Under Teh One you have freedom of religion unless you're Catholic

Posted by: Sean Bannion at July 04, 2012 05:15 AM (choQ2)

128 Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at July 04, 2012 09:08 AM (KOHFD)


That is not what the article said.  They said Canada was only loaning money.  Also the bridge is not needed.

Posted by: Vic Dorfman at July 04, 2012 05:16 AM (YdQQY)

129 They said the bottleneck is not traffic.  It is all the new regulations from 9-11.

Posted by: Vic Dorfman at July 04, 2012 05:17 AM (YdQQY)

130 sock off

Posted by: Vic at July 04, 2012 05:18 AM (YdQQY)

131

Enjoy a nice Yeungling Lager. Or a Sierra Nevada. Or Sam Adams. Or Victory Prima Pils.

What, too early? Posted by: BP NJ




Deschutes Brewery!

Mirror Pond Pale Ale is quite possibly the best beer ever made.



Posted by: imp at July 04, 2012 05:18 AM (LrHKJ)

132 131 Freedom of Religion Well, let's not get all crazy there. Under Teh One you have freedom of religion unless you're Catholic Posted by: Sean Bannion at July 04, 2012 09:15 AM (choQ2) Alright, alright. Remove "Freedom of Religion" and substitute, "Developed Breast Implants"

Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at July 04, 2012 05:19 AM (GkwjL)

133 >>Also the bridge is not needed.

I beg to differ here. It's the busiest commercial crossing between the two countries

Posted by: Albie Damned at July 04, 2012 05:19 AM (Yhu4q)

134 >>Certainly I know what a blackberry is, a gift of Nature intended to be enjoyed on a hot summer's afternoon, or turned into jam for the morning toast.

Don't forget the brandy.


Thomas Jefferson: history's greatest ginger.

Posted by: HeatherRadish has a headache at July 04, 2012 05:19 AM (hO8IJ)

135 You only get freedom of religion with Obama for two religions, Muslim and Communism. 

Posted by: Vic at July 04, 2012 05:20 AM (YdQQY)

136 But this is especially true with respect to the Party's abandonment of the moral principles of the American Revolution, those which justify and support constitutional self-government of, by and for the people.

Posted by: sickinmass at July 04, 2012 08:50 AM (bcNec)

That's because at their head and heart they are corrupt. Our freedoms are just a buzzword to them and an impediment in their lust for power.
We are betrayed by these people and we will see more of our freedom legislated away or simply quashed by administrative fiat by these republicans. It's the power structure, not the parties that are enslaving us. The R or D next to the name only designates which criminal gang is represented.
They are, at their heart, thieves who love their illusion of aristocracy and you and I are not invited to the Ball. They lust to be on top of the pig-pile and in control of the fake money issued by a decadent and illegitimate government.

Posted by: Beto at July 04, 2012 05:20 AM (BAnPT)

137 @139 Don't forget Gaia worship or atheism, the official religions of the USSA.

Posted by: real joe at July 04, 2012 05:21 AM (PD2ad)

138

More work by the assholes in the federal system to assure SCÂ’s voter ID law will not be in place by November. They have postponed the court date. SC should file for immediate injunctive relief and if that doesnÂ’t work simply tell Holder to piss up a rope and enforce it anyway. If I were governor I would tell him if he entered the State he would be charged and jailed.

 

 

Why does it seem that people have backbones until they get elected?

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at July 04, 2012 05:21 AM (bMLFV)

139 I beg to differ here. It's the busiest commercial crossing between the two countries

Posted by: Albie Damned at July 04, 2012 09:19 AM (Yhu4q)


Still the first article says there is ample bridge capacity, that border checks are the hangup. 


You can hire a lot more border checkers for a lot less than $4B

Posted by: Vic at July 04, 2012 05:21 AM (YdQQY)

140 11 MI Governors plan on building a $4B bridge to Canada. Canada will provide a $500M loan, we the U.S. taxpayer will provide $2B for the bridge plus $264M for a plaza. And Canada will own the bridge! And on top of that the bridge is a make-work project that is not needed.

http://is.gd/yPF6fy

Posted by: Vic at July 04, 2012 07:37 AM (YdQQY)


On top of that, he vetoed a bill that would require photo id to get an absentee ballot

Posted by: Red Shirt at July 04, 2012 05:21 AM (FIDMq)

141 Thomas Jefferson: history's greatest ginger. Posted by: HeatherRadish has a headache at July 04, 2012 09:19 AM (hO8IJ) Well, EXCUSSSE ME!

Posted by: King David at July 04, 2012 05:23 AM (GkwjL)

142


Shit, the Ambassador Bridge was a deteriorating rattle trap in the 1980s

It MORE THAN needs to be replaced, and the traffic is usually going to benefit Detroit more than vice versa.


Posted by: imp at July 04, 2012 05:23 AM (xTsb0)

143 Alright, alright. Remove "Freedom of Religion" and substitute, "Developed Breast Implants" Based on that alone I think all Morons would agree this is the greatest country on earth I am not sure if the 'Ettes would agree

Posted by: Sean Bannion at July 04, 2012 05:23 AM (choQ2)

144

is there another country in the world where the rich threaten to leave if we elect the candidate who wants to cut taxes?

and in honor of the 4th, donate $3 or more and be entered for a chance to burn the flag with Bill Ayers. (Ok, but it sounds believable, doesn't it?)

Posted by: mallfly at July 04, 2012 05:24 AM (NI3M5)

145 I challenge all Morons and Moronettes to call their school district offices and ask to see a copy of the secondary American literature and American history curricula. Make sure that The Declaration of Independence is required reading/study by 11th grade in at least one of the two subjects, and if it isn't, demand that it be added. I taught it to 10th grade American lit students in my district. They analyzed it not only for content but for rhetorical style. They also compared the final draft to earlier drafts and revisions.

Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at July 04, 2012 05:24 AM (I4UIl)

146 The Declaration of Independence? Irrelevant. It's like a hundred years old, nobody today even understands what it says.

Posted by: Ezra Klein at July 04, 2012 05:25 AM (RY/Ag)

147


It's been decades since I crossed, but I don't think there is anywhere else to put more border guards at the Ambassador.  It's in the middle of a city (two cities, I guess).

Posted by: imp at July 04, 2012 05:26 AM (xTsb0)

148 >>Actually Lee began the withdrawal on the 4th, but for all intents and purposes it was over when Pickett/Pettigrew were repulsed at Cemetery Hill the previous afternoon.

Damn you Morons are smart.

Washington, D.C., was in a panic as 70,000 Confederate troops were just sixty miles away near Gettysburg, Pennsylvania.

The furious battle had lasted three days.

As General Lee found his ammunition running low, he ordered General Pickett to make a direct attack. After an hour of murderous fire and bloody hand-to-hand combat, the Confederates were pushed back and the Battle of Gettysburg ended JULY 3, 1863, with over 50,000 casualties.

President Abraham Lincoln confided to a general wounded in the battle:
“When everyone seemed panic-stricken…I went to my room…and got down on my knees before Almighty God and prayed.”

Days later, July 15, 1863, President Lincoln proclaimed a National Day of Thanksgiving, Praise and Prayer:

“It is meet and right to recognize and confess the presence of the Almighty Father and the power of His hand equally in these triumphs and in these sorrows…
I invite the people of the United States to…render the homage due to the Divine Majesty for the wonderful things He has done in the nation’s behalf and invoke the influence of His Holy Spirit to subdue the anger which has produced and so long sustained a needless and cruel rebellion.”

O'bummer is NO Lincoln. I wish him ill.

Posted by: sickinmass at July 04, 2012 05:26 AM (bcNec)

149 I taught it to 10th grade American lit students in my district. They analyzed it not only for content but for rhetorical style. They also compared the final draft to earlier drafts and revisions. Bonus points if you had them read 3 or more of the Federalist essays.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at July 04, 2012 05:26 AM (choQ2)

150

Yes, it's a loan - so?  The state is broke.  Do you think the money should be a gift?  It'll be repaid through the tolls collected - that's a pretty standard practice when building new highways and bridges, only usually it doesn't reach the international level.  And the bridge IS needed.  Even now, delays can be hours-long.  Most people consider that wasteful and a loss of money.  Unless you're proposing restoring northern Michigan to forest and farmland, and giving up on ever having industrial activity in that part of the country again, the need will get greater as the years go by.  Building big infrastructure that's useful and will support a lot of economic activity is something government is supposed to do, and when it involves another country, naturally it's going to involve the federal government - there's no choice. 

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at July 04, 2012 05:27 AM (KOHFD)

151 Hey! I'm an ex-New Yorker that moved to NC 17 years a go.  (Best damn decision my wife and I ever made.)  We didn't bring NY, or its liberal policies, with us - we left it, and them, behind.  There were plenty of native-born freakin' liberals here when we got here.  Plenty of blame to go around.

Posted by: jjmurphy at July 04, 2012 05:27 AM (gWO5X)

152 Don't forget the brandy.


Posted by: HeatherRadish has a headache at July 04, 2012 09:19 AM (hO8IJ)


Brandy is on the evening Bill of Fare, to aid digestion.

Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at July 04, 2012 05:27 AM (I2fq9)

153
LHC discovery of the Higgs Bosun is the equivalent of the discovery of DNA and man landing on the Moon, claims Professor Sir Peter Knight, President of the Institute of Physics (IOP).

The Telegraph




Apparently Sir Peter Knight is high from huffing Krylon.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 04, 2012 05:29 AM (kdS6q)

154 The furious battle had lasted three days. As General Lee found his ammunition running low, he ordered General Pickett to make a direct attack. After an hour of murderous fire and bloody hand-to-hand combat, the Confederates were pushed back and the Battle of Gettysburg ended JULY 3, 1863, with over 50,000 casualties. Posted by: sickinmass at July 04, 2012 09:26 AM (bcNec) "Lee started his Army of Northern Virginia in motion late the evening of July 4 towards Fairfield and Chambersburg" Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it. ~Thomas Paine

Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at July 04, 2012 05:30 AM (GkwjL)

155 That sidebar pic of Jimmuh Carter is really starting to creep me out. Not appropriate for Independence Day.

Posted by: real joe at July 04, 2012 05:30 AM (PD2ad)

156


Higgs Bosun



Is that like a ship's mate?

Posted by: imp at July 04, 2012 05:31 AM (xTsb0)

157 >>Drink AMERICAN beer today!

And every day.

But be careful who you support--a lot of small brewery owners are proggs.  The owner of New Glarus in WI, for example is pro-Obama and anti-Walker, and actually got snotty with former customers about it on Facebook in fall 2010.  So I unliked and stopped buying it.

OTOH, I'm pretty certain Bayerische Staatsbrauerei Weihenstephan isn't going to use my purchase to increase the US government's control over my life.

Posted by: HeatherRadish has a headache at July 04, 2012 05:32 AM (hO8IJ)

158

Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it. ~Thomas Paine Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil


THat's exactly right, HRD.  It's also why our soft men of America are willingly letting freedom be taken from them without so much as a peep.  Myself included. 

Posted by: imp at July 04, 2012 05:32 AM (xTsb0)

159 Independence Day should be renamed Barack Obama Day, 'cause from here on out, every day is European Socialism Day!

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Curmudgeon at July 04, 2012 05:33 AM (02fNe)

160



It's been decades since I crossed, but I don't think there is anywhere else to put more border guards at the Ambassador. It's in the middle of a city (two cities, I guess).

<<<

 

Correct. I will go out of my way to cross at Sarnia/Port Huron to avoid that goatfuck.

 

You're talking 3-4 hour waits for trucks to cross.  And not only do you not earn while idling, that cuts into the hours you're allowed to be on duty. Not to mention the wasted fuel.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 04, 2012 05:34 AM (e0tGN)

161 That sidebar pic of Jimmuh Carter is really starting to creep me out. Not appropriate for Independence Day.

He's there as a reminder.

As Dr. Franklin said, so succinctly: A Republic, if you can keep it.

Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at July 04, 2012 05:34 AM (I2fq9)

162
Is that like a ship's mate?
Posted by: imp




Awfully early on a holiday to catch every typo. You get what you get.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 04, 2012 05:34 AM (kdS6q)

163 If there is a Higgs boson, should there not be an antiHiggs boson? The ultimate weight loss particle?

Posted by: eman at July 04, 2012 05:35 AM (ejmiE)

164 It's also why our soft men of America are willingly letting freedom be taken from them without so much as a peep. Myself included. The first step in solving a problem is admitting you have one. And I wouldn't include you or anyone on this site as not realizing there is a problem. Buy American. ABO '12

Posted by: Sean Bannion at July 04, 2012 05:37 AM (choQ2)

165 If MI wants the bridge let MI build the bridge. If they quit giving money to shit holes like Detroit and all the people who run it they would have money and not be broke.

Posted by: Vic at July 04, 2012 05:38 AM (YdQQY)

166

Cervix, I'm not being bad.  It's just funny.  Stupidest Name for a particle aside from gluon (the "glue" particle)

Satethasjgisdnvjsnarehfuxdk Bose may have been a genius, but "boson" is just retarded.

Posted by: imp at July 04, 2012 05:39 AM (xTsb0)

167 If I'm reading that right, the US is paying almost everything to build that bridge but the ownership of the bridge is Canada.  No wonder we are a mess, we don't even know how to make a deal to build a bridge.

Posted by: corey booker and Chris Christie at July 04, 2012 05:39 AM (oZfic)

168 And even if the build the bridge it will not cure the delays. Border inspections are causing the delays not the bridges.

Posted by: Vic at July 04, 2012 05:39 AM (YdQQY)

169 171 Cervix, I'm not being bad. It's just funny. Stupidest Name for a particle aside from gluon (the "glue" particle) Satethasjgisdnvjsnarehfuxdk Bose may have been a genius, but "boson" is just retarded. Posted by: imp at July 04, 2012 09:39 AM (xTsb0) charm quark

Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at July 04, 2012 05:40 AM (GkwjL)

170

Vic, this ain't the hill to die on, soldier.

If ifs and buts were fruits and nuts, no one would go hungry.

Bitching about a financing deal that doesn't cost Michigan a dime is a weak objection to a majorly good solution.

Maroun can such a cock.  By choice.

Posted by: imp at July 04, 2012 05:40 AM (xTsb0)

171
@174

I know. No offense taken.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 04, 2012 05:41 AM (kdS6q)

172 Today is You Don't Have to Be a Serf Day. Too many have forgotten that. They have forgotten that the Declaration is our true founding document and deep down inside we are rebels. Worship of the Constitution has clouded our minds. it is a false god.

Posted by: eman at July 04, 2012 05:43 AM (ejmiE)

173 Bitching about a financing deal that doesn't cost Michigan a dime is a weak objection to a majorly good solution.


Its cost the rest of the country a shitwad of money.

Posted by: Vic at July 04, 2012 05:43 AM (YdQQY)

174 Considering that a regulatory body has recently imposed itself in my business doings and cost me $1000 up front in additional expenses and that the same agency has the power of bankrupting me personally and professionally ,holding exhorbitant fines above my head like the sword of Domacles - I feel particularly partial the line about "sending his officers to eat out their substance"

Posted by: typo dynamofo at July 04, 2012 05:43 AM (FU9ql)

175 Send me $2B of taxpayer money and I will quit bitching and it will not cost MI anything either.

Posted by: Vic at July 04, 2012 05:44 AM (YdQQY)

176 Can we call it the Barky boson?  He's has been robbing the masses since the day he was conceived.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Curmudgeon at July 04, 2012 05:44 AM (02fNe)

177

And even if the build the bridge it will not cure the delays. Border inspections are causing the delays not the bridges.
Posted by: Vic



Read the article albie posted above (link in my nic)

http://www.thestar.com/business/article/ 1212242--canada-michigan-bridge-over-gridlocked-border- rightly-bypasses-litigious-billionaire-olive

Really vic, unless you know the idiocy that is/was the Ambassador, you can't really grasp the problem.

You can row across the fucking river in your car faster than waiting for the bridge.  And it's not all inspections.  That's at best an hour of delay on a properly functioning, adequately sized crossing, like the one north of Seattle.

Posted by: imp at July 04, 2012 05:44 AM (xTsb0)

178 Send me $2B of taxpayer money and I will quit bitching and it will not cost MI anything either. Aw, come on Vic. You'd just waste it on hookers and blow.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at July 04, 2012 05:45 AM (choQ2)

179 Aw, come on Vic. You'd just waste it on hookers and blow. Posted by: Sean Bannion at July 04, 2012 09:45 AM (choQ2) Waste?

Posted by: eman at July 04, 2012 05:46 AM (ejmiE)

180 At least curious agrees with you, Vic.  That's gotta feel good.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 04, 2012 05:47 AM (e0tGN)

181 Read the article albie posted above (link in my nic)



Dueling articles and opinions. The story at DC says exactly the opposite.

Posted by: Vic at July 04, 2012 05:47 AM (YdQQY)

182 Curious is here this morning?


All of y'all are from MI right?

Posted by: Vic at July 04, 2012 05:48 AM (YdQQY)

183 236 years? Nancy Pelosi's birthday?

Posted by: nickless at July 04, 2012 05:49 AM (Rtx1X)

184 Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 04, 2012 09:47 AM (e0tGN)

If we were smart we'd have talked Mexico into paying for the bridge.

Posted by: lybor tee at July 04, 2012 05:49 AM (oZfic)

185 Aw, come on Vic. You'd just waste it on hookers and blow.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at July 04, 2012 09:45 AM (choQ2)



Nah, bourbon and beer.




Posted by: Vic at July 04, 2012 05:49 AM (YdQQY)

186

You'd just waste it on hookers and blow. Posted by: Sean Bannion



THat's called investing in the future

Posted by: imp at July 04, 2012 05:49 AM (xTsb0)

187 I just have a feeling that this Independence Day celebration is going to be a big one. Instead of mourning what we've lost, today I'll be telling my kids what we fought for, and what we must do to get it back. This is strangely the most optimistic I've felt since Obama elected. God bless America!

Posted by: Lauren at July 04, 2012 05:50 AM (qWx6X)

188 Starting at 10 am EDT a reading of the Declaration of Independence will be held at the National Archives, and broadcast by CSPAN. Four descendants of the signers will participate.

Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at July 04, 2012 05:51 AM (I2fq9)

189


Critics suggest that Moroun's opposition is fuelled by the prospect of lost profits from duty-free gasoline sales, which are exempt from about 60 cents per gallon in taxes even though the pump price to consumers is only a few cents lower


Yeah vic, FROM michigan, as in past tense.  getting out of that shithole and away from scummy corrupt fuckers like Maroun is the best decision ever.  Just because DC fetishizes the free market doesn't make cheating swindlers into paragons of virtue.

Posted by: imp at July 04, 2012 05:52 AM (xTsb0)

190 Hookers and blow = Stimulus!

Posted by: nickless at July 04, 2012 05:52 AM (Rtx1X)

191 Good Morning and Happy Independence Day!

Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at July 04, 2012 05:52 AM (Ho2rs)

192 What a great day! The dog is on the spit, the arugula is in the fridge and Slow Uncle Joe has promised Chinese sparklers and select readings from Das Kapital later on this evening. What a country! Why do I not have a problem believing that is the official WH schedule for today?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at July 04, 2012 05:53 AM (choQ2)

193

@187

 

Across the border. I cross there often. Going to do it twice this month.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 04, 2012 05:53 AM (e0tGN)

194 oh look catpiss troll is here.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at July 04, 2012 05:53 AM (Ho2rs)

195 59 About that NC Democrat. I am wondering if that vote was all that accidental. Overturning the veto might just lead to a nice, generous 'handshake' from the gas industry. And then it was all just an 'unfortunate accident' when the Dem is speaking to the Left and the Environmentalists. I would agree with you except she isn't that smart. Pushing the wrong button is much more likely in this case.

Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Lord Collingwood (mentioned in dispatches) at July 04, 2012 05:54 AM (m7blM)

196 When in the course of human events this country comes across a JEF SCOAMF, it behooves us to remove the bastard from office and grind his damage to a pulp by February.


Or something like that.

Posted by: tcn at July 04, 2012 05:54 AM (eFcVx)

197 You know what would be really classy and fashionable on a day like today?  A boob belt with stars and stripes. For $3.

Posted by: Fritz at July 04, 2012 05:55 AM (02fNe)

198

Just saw your post from your site today EoJ.

When everyone has it pretty good, itÂ’s a lot harder to be on guard for your individual liberty. 

That's it in a nutshell.  We are soft and comfy.

Like Charmin.

Posted by: imp at July 04, 2012 05:56 AM (xTsb0)

199

Flag's up, going to a very local parade in a bit, off to a hotel this afternoon to get a front row view of the fireworks without having to deal with a terrible traffic jam afterwards! Or before, for that matter...

 

Have a good one, [y'all].

 

(Oh, man, that was one meme I don't think anyone mentioned in yesterday's meme-a-thon. That was really really fun and funny. If you missed it, it was in the Unpatriotic debt thread.)

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 04, 2012 05:56 AM (SUKHu)

200 I could live well off of $2B.  Maybe even buy me a new computer instead of this slow ancient POS.

Posted by: Vic at July 04, 2012 05:57 AM (YdQQY)

201 have fun mama aj

Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at July 04, 2012 05:57 AM (Ho2rs)

202 I plan to celebrate by breaking fireworks law.  Well not really a law, more of a fiat from our local magistrate and king.


Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 04, 2012 05:58 AM (EtuU3)

203 When the Hessians ( mercenaries hired by the British) arrived in America they were amazed at the wealth of the commoners. They had not seen anything close to this in all of Europe. They wondered how the colonist could wish to rebel against King George III when he had been so generous to them.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at July 04, 2012 05:58 AM (mFxQX)

204 >>All of y'all are from MI right?

There isn't a single Canadian product sold in South Carolina?

C'mon, facilitating international commerce is a legit function of the federal government.

Posted by: HeatherRadish has a headache at July 04, 2012 05:59 AM (hO8IJ)

205 >>You can hire a lot more border checkers for a lot less than $4B

Agreed, but the bridge is still needed. Trucks aren't allowed in the tunnel

Posted by: Albie Damned at July 04, 2012 05:59 AM (Yhu4q)

206 Maybe even buy me a new computer instead of this slow ancient POS.

Posted by: Vic at July 04, 2012 09:57 AM (YdQQY)


Got a computer from Dell Auction. To my surprise it was a dual processor, dual monitor setup with 8 gig of ram.

Posted by: Beto at July 04, 2012 06:00 AM (BAnPT)

207 $350.00

Posted by: Beto at July 04, 2012 06:01 AM (BAnPT)

208 236 years ago, after "a long train of abuses and usurpations," Americans declared they were no longer subjects of their government.

History repeats itself.

Posted by: Keith Arnold at July 04, 2012 06:03 AM (azwm2)

209 God particle.

Posted by: FUBAR at July 04, 2012 06:03 AM (mdhVr)

210 215 $350.00 OK, that pisses me off, Beto.

Posted by: Scobface at July 04, 2012 06:03 AM (IoNBC)

211 213 I have always admired the Hessians. Posted by: Chairman Obumbles at July 04, 2012 10:00 AM (vbh31) The first member of my family to step foot on American soil was a Hessian Trooper. Enjoy your forth rons, and happy birthday America. Let's make our gift the quest for many more birthdays.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 04, 2012 06:03 AM (9TTOe)

212 They wondered how the colonist could wish to rebel against King George III when he had been so generous to them.

And OTOH, those who had emigrated from Germany as farmers or merchants or artisans were more enthusiastic about rebelling against the English king than many British emigrants, because why the hell would they want to be English subjects?

Posted by: HeatherRadish has a crush on Nicholas Herkimer at July 04, 2012 06:03 AM (hO8IJ)

213 Lots o places cancelling fireworks today due to high burn conditions and no money to pay for it.

Posted by: Vic at July 04, 2012 06:04 AM (YdQQY)

214 221 Lots o places canceling fireworks today due to high burn conditions and no money to pay for it. Posted by: Vic at July 04, 2012 10:04 AM (YdQQY) Don't worry, there will be plenty of citizens with a large assortment of explosives. Keep your garden hose handy and be vigilant.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 04, 2012 06:06 AM (9TTOe)

215 Re the picture: THE BALLS ON THOSE GUYS!!! (Somebody had to say it.)

Posted by: Scobface at July 04, 2012 06:06 AM (IoNBC)

216 >>Also the bridge is not needed.

You must not have heard about the awesome Windsor strip clubs

Posted by: Albie Damned at July 04, 2012 06:07 AM (Yhu4q)

217 Art 1, Sect 8

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;


Says regulate, not facilitate.

Posted by: Vic at July 04, 2012 06:07 AM (YdQQY)

218 Morning all and Happy Independence Day to you.  As I really don't care to see half my county look like the burning of Atlanta in Gone With the Wind, we're skipping shooting our own fireworks off this year and heading into town tonight.  (The city leaders figured a barge in the middle of the Missouri River should still be pretty safe.)

Posted by: Ruby at July 04, 2012 06:08 AM (QAUe4)

219 Remembering Andrew Breitbart on Independence Day

http://is.gd/Vi90Zh

Posted by: HeatherRadish has a crush on Nicholas Herkimer at July 04, 2012 06:09 AM (hO8IJ)

220 You'll get over this independence and freedom thing.  Trust me.

Posted by: Barak Obama at July 04, 2012 06:09 AM (f32Z7)

221 Lots o places cancelling fireworks today due to high burn conditions and no money to pay for it.

Don't forget us!

Posted by: candy-ass cormorants at July 04, 2012 06:09 AM (MySKM)

222 Oh, for fuck's sake.

Posted by: HeatherRadish has a crush on Nicholas Herkimer at July 04, 2012 06:10 AM (hO8IJ)

223 It feels like a weekend, so a book recommendation seems appropriate.  I just finished "The Great Upheaval" by Jay Winik.  I first heard about it here via a recommendation by one of the morons, now lost to time.  It's a very good book on the world condition in the 1790s, with an emphasis on America, but also nicely tying in those developments with the French revolution and Imperial Russia.  Apparently Catherine the Great played a key behind-the-scenes role in helping us, mostly to screw with other countries, but came to regret it.  Anyway, highly recommended.

Posted by: pep at July 04, 2012 06:10 AM (6TB1Z)

224 The white zone is for the immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in the red zone.

Posted by: Hamm on 5 at July 04, 2012 06:12 AM (N8ZZU)

225 Wouldn't need bridges if we had our flying cars.

Posted by: nickless at July 04, 2012 06:13 AM (MMC8r)

226 Beto is still here!

>>That's because at their head and heart they are corrupt. Our freedoms are just a buzzword to them and an impediment in their lust for power.


With respect to the Power Structure, it connives at promoting or imposing by law actions that deny or disrespect the premise of God endowed right (for example: abortion, gay marriage, and the suppression of public piety by means of an abusive and false concept of separation of church and state).

It also undermines the exceptional spirit of initiative and enterprise once characteristic of Americans by promoting rampant spending and borrowing, which leads to excessive taxation of individuals and businesses; burdensome regulation of their entrepreneurial activities; and centralized control of their financial institutions.

The elitist two party political sham encourages the proliferation of programs and policies based on the false promise that government will care for individuals. This leads to woeful neglect of government's proper function, which is to act as the agent of people of goodwill whose concern for the common good gives rise to the institution of just government. So the elitist information media (including politicians and academics, as well prominent figures in the news and entertainment sectors) induce people to see their political activity in terms of selfish individual gain. Meanwhile, this media ignore or denigrate the duty of individuals, as members of the sovereign body of the people, to take responsibility for the common good of the nation as a whole.

Posted by: sickinmass at July 04, 2012 06:13 AM (bcNec)

227 I just finished "The Great Upheaval" by Jay Winik.

I just received my copy yesterday, also based on recommendations here. It better not suck, or there'll be some sharp words come Festivus Eve.

Posted by: Waterhouse at July 04, 2012 06:15 AM (MySKM)

228 So how's that new smart power grid working out for everyone?  Bitchin, eh?

Posted by: Barak Obama at July 04, 2012 06:17 AM (f32Z7)

229 It better not suck, or there'll be some sharp words come Festivus Eve.

Uh, did I say my name was pep?  My mistake.  It's Vic.  V-I-C. 

Posted by: pep at July 04, 2012 06:19 AM (6TB1Z)

230 So how's that new smart power grid working out for everyone? Bitchin, eh? You know nothing of my work.

Posted by: Nikola Tesla at July 04, 2012 06:19 AM (evdj2)

231 The constitution doesn't use the phrase "with both parents being citizens" but that is what a Natural Born Citizen is. Different from being a Citizen which is required to be a member of Congress.

Posted by: teej at July 04, 2012 06:21 AM (F1lOF)

232 You sockpuppets make me smile.

 AoS f'n Rules.

Have a Happy 4th. I have weeding to do.. Sun just came out

Posted by: sickinmass at July 04, 2012 06:21 AM (bcNec)

233 I'd bet those wind farmers harvested up enough energy to last us 4 or 5 winters, no?

Posted by: Fritz at July 04, 2012 06:21 AM (02fNe)

234 Stimulus cash could have gone to burying all the major utility transmission lines and upgrading the wire to superconductive materials. Thus hardening our infrastructure and vastly increasing the efficiency of transmission lowering cost per kilowatt. But instead the money was borrowed to prop up uncompetitive solar panel companies that got their clocks cleaned by fossil fuel generation and other more competitive unsubsidized solar companies. THANKS BARRY!

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at July 04, 2012 06:23 AM (KCvsd)

235 You know nothing of my work.
How you got to teach a course in anything is totally amazing!

Posted by: The Founding Fathers to BHO at July 04, 2012 06:23 AM (6TB1Z)

236 234

Well written.
Though they have been corrupted our laws are still in our favor, for a time, because they were founded on God Given Rights being written and precedent set by the courts that way for the longest time.

Posted by: Beto at July 04, 2012 06:25 AM (BAnPT)

237 @234 by sickinmass That's why I come here. I try to say something like that and all ya get is see spot run.

Posted by: teej at July 04, 2012 06:27 AM (F1lOF)

238 Michelle Obama would like to say, All this for a Declaration of Independence

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 04, 2012 06:28 AM (17yfb)

239 #234, statements like that are why the MFM wants bloggers silenced. They'd never let a clear stating of the obvious like that be printed or spoken within their sphere of influence. Losing control of the narrative has been one of the most significant defeats of liberalism in the past 80 years, but it is by no means finished.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at July 04, 2012 06:30 AM (KCvsd)

240

"all men are created equal."

 

And, of course, by "all men," I meant all wealthy, white men!

Posted by: Tom Jefferson at July 04, 2012 06:33 AM (mQMnK)

241 Per Drudge's link to the asshats (Chris Rock, Aaron Sorkin etc) tweets about the 4th. If it's so terrible for you millionaires to live in this racist country go live in goddamn Nigeria or some other utopia

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 04, 2012 06:35 AM (17yfb)

242 236...SMART POWER!!!

Posted by: HILLARY! at July 04, 2012 06:35 AM (Hh8ts)

243
Perhaps its fate that today is the 4th of July, and you will once again be fighting for our freedom, not from tyranny, oppression, or persecution -- but from annihilation.

We're fighting for our right to live, to exist.

And should we win the day, the 4th of July will no longer be known as an American holiday, but as the day when the world declared in one voice:

"We will not go quietly into the night!

We will not vanish without a fight!

We're going to live on!

We're going to survive!"

Today, we celebrate our Independence Day!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 04, 2012 06:39 AM (kdS6q)

244 New thread up

Posted by: Vic at July 04, 2012 06:39 AM (YdQQY)

245 The Associated Press pointed out, in an apparent error of candor, that in repeated polls 8 out of 10 Americans do NOT think that the government has the right to make individuals buy health insurance.
 
Rasmussen has this:
 
Eighty-two percent (82%) believe “all men are created equal.” Seventy percent (70%) agree that “governments derive their only just powers from the consent of the governed.” However, just 22% believe that the federal government actually has the consent of the governed today.
 
I bolded that last part. 22% -- I wonder how ole King George was polling back in 1775 here in the soon to be United States.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 04, 2012 06:48 AM (ccXZP)

246

However [political parties] may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.

GEORGE WASHINGTON, Farewell Address, Sep. 17, 1796

Posted by: MCPO Airdale at July 04, 2012 06:53 AM (tYaDf)

247 And, of course, by "all men," I meant all wealthy, white men! You know nothing of my work.

Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at July 04, 2012 06:54 AM (evdj2)

248 We find the Tea Tax completly within the written power of the King, and therefore must decleare this Declaration of Indepedence Illegal...

Posted by: Justice John Roberts, 1776 at July 04, 2012 07:15 AM (lZBBB)

249 Because the Framers would have consented to the King taxing inactivity... "Independence Day"? Hardly.  Fuck you, John Roberts.

Posted by: Jazz at July 04, 2012 07:22 AM (NzrVU)

250

Wait??? Whut???

 

Sirrah!  You say I'm some type of domestic Terrorist???

Posted by: John Ramey, Virginia Militia, Valley Forge at July 04, 2012 07:22 AM (lZBBB)

251 Although I was for Perry, I was impressed to see that Romney is using his buses to hand out water and food in Ohio, and telling his supporters to donate to the Red Cross rather than him to help the fire and storm victims. narry a word from Obama. Guess he hates white people.

Posted by: Chilling the most at July 04, 2012 07:32 AM (6IV8T)

252 just 22% believe that the federal government actually has the consent of the governed today.

I bolded that last part. 22% -- I wonder how ole King George was polling back in 1775 here in the soon to be United States.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 04, 2012 10:48 AM (ccXZP)

I remember hearing that it was just a very small bunch of ravel rousers.  Most people wanted to continue living their lives and didn't want a problem.  I wish I knew where to find the percentage.

Posted by: lybor tee at July 04, 2012 07:37 AM (oZfic)

253 Well Fox announcing that June and July are top months for teens to start smoking and drinking.  The ER doctor (leigh Vinocur) guest just sad "idle hands are the devil's workshop".

How nice of Fox to further the agenda of year round school....idiots...

Posted by: lybor tee at July 04, 2012 07:39 AM (oZfic)

254 "Live Webcast Of Bob Diamond Testimony On Lieborgate" http://tinyurl.com/cpjupb4

Posted by: lybor tee at July 04, 2012 07:43 AM (oZfic)

255 "Why More And More Americans Are Abandoning Their US Citizenship"  http://tinyurl.com/8ykm9gz

Somewhere in all this there is a connection to all the dems bailing on the dem convention.



Posted by: lybor tee at July 04, 2012 07:47 AM (oZfic)

256 256And, of course, by "all men," I meant all wealthy, white men!

You know nothing of my work.

Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at July 04, 2012 10:54 AM (evdj2)

==============================

 

We do!

Posted by: Jefferson's slaves at July 04, 2012 07:55 AM (mQMnK)

257 Piss off, Joe.

Posted by: toby928© at July 04, 2012 08:02 AM (evdj2)

258 Ah yes, Jefferson was flawed. Imperfect. He didn't fully repudiate the mores of his day. Therefore let us throw out all that he produced as poisoned by his mark.

All the freedoms that we have enjoyed. The wealth, health and happiness. All gone- baby with the bathwater and all.

Posted by: the decendants of Jefferson's slaves at July 04, 2012 08:08 AM (FU9ql)

259 How much blood does it take to wash clean the sins off a nation?

Posted by: Apparently about 620,000 souls worth at July 04, 2012 08:11 AM (FU9ql)

260 A room full of adults. What would that be like?

Posted by: ddiddly at July 04, 2012 08:58 AM (yUvhq)

261 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at July 04, 2012 11:39 AM (Xb3hu)

262 “Yes, I believe that we will end up in a war with Iran because I think Obama views that as politically good for him. Â… I have said for a year and a half that in the end, somewhere before the election we will end up in a form of war with Iran, and I think heÂ’s doing it for political reasons."  http://tinyurl.com/7xcopl5

Posted by: lybor tee at July 04, 2012 02:29 PM (oZfic)

263 With apologies to Thomas Paine, taken from “The Crisis” with up-to-date revisions: THESE are the times that try men’s souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated. OBAMA, with an army of IRS agents to enforce his tyranny, has declared that he has a right (not only to TAX) but “to BIND us TO PENALTIES in ALL CASES WHATSOEVER” and if being bound in that manner, is not slavery, then is there not such a thing as slavery upon earth. Even the expression is impious; for so unlimited a power can belong only to God.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 05, 2012 10:23 AM (iAUf+)

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