June 12, 2012
— andy A blink of an eye in the grand scheme of things, but it sure seems like a long time ago ...
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Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 12, 2012 04:34 AM (8y9MW)
I was born in Berlin and living in southern Germany when he made this speech. It was televised on AFN and we all watched it. It gave me goosebumps then and still does now. It was a powerful call to the citizens and they were listening.
Posted by: xyz at June 12, 2012 04:34 AM (gLEeE)
Posted by: Barky O at June 12, 2012 04:36 AM (0paMD)
Posted by: mw at June 12, 2012 04:39 AM (nR8Ca)
Posted by: phoenixgirl clinging to my bible, gun and coca cola at June 12, 2012 04:39 AM (Ho2rs)
It's like we have come so far, yet we really haven't. Will we ever be able to rid our selves of the cancer of progressive-ism.
Posted by: Mrs Compton at June 12, 2012 04:40 AM (Why44)
Posted by: Eric at June 12, 2012 04:42 AM (RGk6+)
***
I thought that while looking at the Tiananmen Square photo as well. Time is flying away.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 12, 2012 04:42 AM (piMMO)
Then came Jimmy Carter. Due to circumstances, I wasn't able to vote. (no pre-voting or motor voter laws or other stuff back then. You had to PROVE you lived in the district you wanted to vote in. It was just common practice.)
When his re election came around, I was working and had been working for 4 solid years and I was PROUD to vote for him. I even began to do some self employment stuff. But the Carter years had done too much damage and the area I was in sunk further despite Ron's efforts. (It didn't help I was in Illinois at the time.)
Too bad the NE blue blooded resume builder got elected and it all went to sh!t. Surprisingly improved when the Republicans got in in '94.
Well you know the rest.
Guys like Reagan come around only rarely and they're and HIM are sorely missed.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at June 12, 2012 04:44 AM (CP+yl)
Posted by: ziggyelman at June 12, 2012 04:46 AM (n1N6b)
Posted by: Jeb Bush at June 12, 2012 04:46 AM (xqW1X)
I was (kinder, gentler...) irritated. Mein Deutschfreund has given up trying to understand me.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 12, 2012 04:48 AM (hO8IJ)
And he knows it. All that's left for him to do is sabotage his betters in hopes of some sort of salve to his ego. Too bad it won't work.
Jeb STFU. You and Rove.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at June 12, 2012 04:48 AM (CP+yl)
@14: was that 18 years ago already? It's scary how time flies.
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 12, 2012 04:48 AM (Iaxlk)
I don't even remember the speech (yes, I'll get off your lawn in just a sec), but hearing it today stirs the blood like nothing the SCOAMT could ever hope to utter.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 12, 2012 04:48 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2012 04:49 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at June 12, 2012 04:49 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at June 12, 2012 04:50 AM (CP+yl)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 12, 2012 04:51 AM (Iaxlk)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2012 04:51 AM (05RcU)
If only we had conservatives like that now.
Posted by: Jeb Bush at June 12, 2012 04:52 AM (nEUpB)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2012 04:53 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 12, 2012 04:53 AM (Iaxlk)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2012 04:53 AM (MCDCp)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2012 04:55 AM (05RcU)
Oh, SCOAMT stirs my blood with his every word. It's just the bad kind of blood-stirring.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 12, 2012 04:55 AM (nEUpB)
That is so... ins-s-s-s-s-s-ensitive...
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 12, 2012 04:55 AM (Iaxlk)
Posted by: Barry S. at June 12, 2012 04:56 AM (PD2ad)
Apparently that is a myth. JFK spoke correctly.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 12, 2012 04:56 AM (nEUpB)
To use the old "humors," he doesn't stir my blood, but my bile.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 12, 2012 04:56 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: teh Wind at June 12, 2012 04:58 AM (HBU8E)
Posted by: teh Wind at June 12, 2012 08:58 AM (HBU8E)
I always led from inside her behind!
Posted by: President Bubba at June 12, 2012 04:59 AM (Iaxlk)
Photo Gallery: East Germany's Transformation http://tinyurl.com/39o93kt
Photos taken by Stefan Koppelkamm of east Berlin in 1991 and again in 2003.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 12, 2012 04:59 AM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2012 05:00 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Jay in Ames at June 12, 2012 05:00 AM (UEEex)
Posted by: Jeb Bush at June 12, 2012 05:05 AM (AWmfW)
Don't get me wrong...I love the idea that JFK screwed up. I don't speak idiomatic German so I can't say for sure, but I have read that it was correctly phrased.
Wiki explains it pretty well.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 12, 2012 05:07 AM (nEUpB)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 12, 2012 05:10 AM (Iaxlk)
Posted by: mama winger at June 12, 2012 05:10 AM (P6QsQ)
I know he wouldn't be able to get the Democrat nomination if he ran today.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 12, 2012 05:11 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 12, 2012 05:12 AM (3X4pb)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 12, 2012 05:12 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 12, 2012 05:14 AM (9TTOe)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2012 05:14 AM (05RcU)
I dislike his policy decisions, and I certainly don't approve of his expansion of the Vietnam war and of the welfare state.
But...for all of his flaws he was a patriot.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 12, 2012 05:15 AM (nEUpB)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 12, 2012 09:11 AM (8y9MW)
I know you're being snarky, but actually that is FAR TRUER than Jeb Bush's BS about Reagan not being able to get the GOP nomination today.
Matthews would soil his pants over what an "Incredible Hawk!" Kennedy was.
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 12, 2012 05:15 AM (Iaxlk)
He would rather have installed revolving doors in The Wall.
Reagan's biggest mistake was bringing that blueblood bureaucrat along for the ride.
Posted by: ontherocks at June 12, 2012 05:16 AM (aZ6ew)
Posted by: mama winger at June 12, 2012 05:16 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Baraka Obama - In Lincoln's League at June 12, 2012 05:16 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 12, 2012 05:16 AM (9TTOe)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2012 05:16 AM (05RcU)
Bloomberg doesn't think that the borders of NYC can hold his brilliance, so I would be worried.
Soon he will be trying to control anyone living within sight of New York.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 12, 2012 05:16 AM (nEUpB)
Posted by: The Won at June 12, 2012 05:17 AM (hNLFW)
54 HW Pukey Bush pissed it all away with his New World Order BS.
Well, he and W. paved the way for the radical turn to the left Obama has given us. I really believe that.
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 12, 2012 05:17 AM (Iaxlk)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2012 05:18 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: President Obama at June 12, 2012 05:18 AM (Iaxlk)
Posted by: The Won at June 12, 2012 09:17 AM (hNLFW)
That's funny. You know that little bastard would have been bowing and scraping to old splotch top. And would have referred to him and Comrade Chairman. It would have made his love fest with Chavez look tame
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 12, 2012 05:19 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Vic at June 12, 2012 05:20 AM (YdQQY)
Friend --
We're adding a twist to the upcoming Dinner with Barack:
You not only have the chance to sit down for a meal with the President and a guest of your choice. You also get to help pick the President's guest.
Pitch in $3 or whatever you can to be automatically entered to win a seat at the table, and then make sure to weigh in on who you think should join President Obama.
Three supporters like you will get to bring a guest, so why shouldn't the President? It's only fair.
And he's had some pretty amazing dinner guests lately: George Clooney, Sarah Jessica Parker, and of course, President Bill Clinton.
So tell us, who's next?
Make sure your name is in the running to be at the Dinner with Barack happening soon, and while you're at it, let us know who you think President Obama should bring:
Bonus points if you vote for me. (Just kidding.)
- Julianna
Julianna Smoot
Deputy Campaign Manager
Obama for America
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 12, 2012 05:22 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2012 05:22 AM (05RcU)
Actually, in a rare moment, I wasn't being snarky. I seriously believe that if JFK were transported from moments before his death and hurtled into today, he'd take a look at both parties and pick the Republicans.
And he'd probably think Mitt Romney was a bit of a squish.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 12, 2012 05:22 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: blaster at June 12, 2012 05:22 AM (7vSU0)
Republicans should flood that contest, and flood it with votes that his guest should be someone like Rush, or Neal Boortz.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 12, 2012 05:23 AM (8y9MW)
Keep in mind that he had to get elected in MA first.
Posted by: Vic at June 12, 2012 05:24 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 12, 2012 05:24 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Vic at June 12, 2012 09:20 AM (YdQQY)
He'd have to find it first
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2012 09:22 AM (05RcU)
He knows where it is.
He makes sure common folk don't have access to it on Memorial Day.
Posted by: Beto at June 12, 2012 05:25 AM (cYQg0)
Posted by: Lauren at June 12, 2012 05:25 AM (hNLFW)
Posted by: Vic at June 12, 2012 09:24 AM (YdQQY)
That would be the Massachusetts that still had segregation
Posted by: Beto at June 12, 2012 05:26 AM (cYQg0)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2012 09:14 AM (05RcU)
In one of the songs for South Pacific, Oscar Hammerstein wrote "high as a flag on the Fourth of July". Oscar was a liberal in his day, back when you could liberal and still proclaim love of the USA. With lyrics like that today, he couldn't get nominated for work in Hollywood.
Posted by: Retread at June 12, 2012 05:28 AM (joSBv)
Posted by: t-bird at June 12, 2012 05:28 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2012 05:29 AM (05RcU)
It just makes me sad to see a real leader. How far we have fallen.
Yup, that sure didn't take long, did it?
I wonder how long it's going to take for the country to understand that we're in an ideological war for our very existence? There's no shooting in the streets, this war is taking place inside our very Capital in the halls of power. We have many domestic enemies who wear the cloak of an American, but in their hearts lie treachery, deceit, and hatred for us and everything we stand for.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 12, 2012 05:29 AM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 12, 2012 05:30 AM (9TTOe)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 12, 2012 09:24 AM (8y9MW)
The MA of today is much different than the early 60s when he first got elected. The JFK of the 60s could not get elected in the MA of 2012, or if he did he would be another Scott Brown.
Posted by: Vic at June 12, 2012 05:31 AM (YdQQY)
69: We're adding a twist to the upcoming Dinner with Barack:
You not only have the chance to sit down for a meal with the President
and a guest of your choice. You also get to help pick the President's
guest.
How about Bill Ayers? I would request that Bill Ayers sit on Bambi's lap.
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 12, 2012 05:32 AM (Iaxlk)
Obama goes reflexively into a submissive crouch and then wonders why nobody takes him seriously.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 12, 2012 05:33 AM (oKeNi)
It took 40 years of Hardcore Leftist infiltration of the Massachusetts public school system to produce the People's Republic we see today.
One day, we conservatives really need to go after the politicization of the schools and the daily brainwashing that goes on there. Or it will simply be too late for our country.
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 12, 2012 05:33 AM (Iaxlk)
Posted by: Jean at June 12, 2012 05:34 AM (WkuV6)
Reagan gave a great speech, but unlike Obama, Reagan also understood that fine inspiring words must be backed by deeds. He rebuilt the armed forces, showed he was willing to use them if necessary, then held out the olive branch.
Hey, I killed all our allies in the Middle East, right? Except Israel... I'm still working it. I'll have more flexibility after the elections.
Posted by: Prez Barky at June 12, 2012 05:35 AM (Iaxlk)
Barry's CV: Community Organizer (failed to do much of anything); do-nothing IL State Senator; author of a few craptastic books of himself; Do-nothing U.S. Senator; law school instructor (never tenured), and now our do-nothing but golf President.
Posted by: Barky O at June 12, 2012 05:35 AM (0paMD)
I think it should be the other way round. Oh, and I'd take Mitt as my guest.
Posted by: Retread at June 12, 2012 05:36 AM (joSBv)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2012 05:36 AM (05RcU)
Remember how it seemed we were always fighting a losing battle with the Commies and the terrorists? How it always seemed that they seemed a step ahead of us? How we were constantly subjected to news of this or that hostage in the Middle East going into his nth year of captivity? Or some ridiculous demand was being made during arms treaty discussions?
Then Reagan came along and finally started pounding on these guys. He'd always talk in positive terms, but would quite clearly state that he wasn't going to play their little games anymore.
And whaddya know, the facade crakced and fell away, and all of a sudden we saw just how really weak these jerks were. Suddenly THEY were on the defensive. Suddenly hostages were released.
And we weren't the only ones watching this. Remember Solidarnosc? Even though they began before Reagan even got elected, they fed off each other. Suddenly it went from us battling commies here in America, to literally battling them in their own backyard. Gdansk was a political Omaha Beach.
And then it all started to crumble for the commies. Poland, Hungary, Romania, the USSR, China - they were all forced to admit that their political and economic systems were a sham.
And Reagan was the primary reason, along with Margaret Thatcher and other conservatives devoted to the concept of liberty. It is amazing to see what can be accomplished when you articulate your policies politely but clearly, and refuse to be swayed by a bunch of hippies.
Thank God we had leaders like that when they were needed so much. We need them again.
You listening Mitt?
Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 12, 2012 05:37 AM (wtvvX)
Maybe we need to form the Rough Men Party (to steal from Orwell) and start lobbying for it.
Posted by: jwpaine at June 12, 2012 05:37 AM (FUozQ)
Posted by: phoenixgirl clinging to my bible, gun and coca cola at June 12, 2012 08:39 AM (Ho2rs)
No kidding. A quarter of a century ago already.
A century, really, ain't that long, is it?
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 12, 2012 05:37 AM (Iaxlk)
Sort of a dumpy bar, but the last time I ate there the BBQ was excellent. The pit master used to have a catering joint (Fink's maybe?) in Tenafly or Ft. Lee...somewhere around there. If he is still at Bailey's then the food should be good.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 12, 2012 05:38 AM (nEUpB)
95 Heinlein had one hell of a good idea: Limiting the franchise to veterans only.
Murtha, Kerry, Carter.
Their veteran status did not help.
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 12, 2012 05:38 AM (Iaxlk)
More and more I feel like we have moved from a time when grown ups were in charge (up to the 80's, early 90's) to this new era where emotional/intellectual children are running the show. Even since the Clinton era the political leaders are looking more and more like foolish children.
I hope Mitt will bring some adult-level thinking and behavior back onto the scene so we can see what that looks like again. The world is getting ever more dangerous - we don't need a pack of spoiled brats playing at being social engineers all day. We need people who are grown up - people who understands the basics of how the world actually works.
Posted by: Reactionary at June 12, 2012 05:38 AM (xUM1Q)
Posted by: t-bird at June 12, 2012 05:39 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Darth Randall at June 12, 2012 05:39 AM (mV8sg)
Posted by: Barry S at June 12, 2012 05:39 AM (6oc46)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2012 05:39 AM (05RcU)
Their veteran status did not help.
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 12, 2012 09:38 AM (Iaxlk)
True, but how many veterans voted for them? I doubt they'd win a majority. The military of any nation is always among the most conservative of institutions. There will be whinging leftards in any field of endeavor, but most of them, especially the committed leftist traitors, hate the military and will not join it, even for franchise.
Posted by: Reactionary at June 12, 2012 05:40 AM (xUM1Q)
Their veteran status did not help.
I think people often miss part of what Heinlein says about that- he specifies that Veterans are not "picked men" or somehow superior EXCEPT in their proven willingness to protect society with their own lives.
And I believe that is absolutely true. As much as Murtha, Kerry, and Carter disgust me, I don't believe for a minute that any of them would have been as bad as Obama is.
And I strongly believe that a much higher percentage of those in the military tend to be Conservative than tend to be Liberal.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 12, 2012 05:43 AM (8y9MW)
I can't vouch for the booze, but the beer was fine.
The only way they can ruin booze is with glasses that are too small.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 12, 2012 05:44 AM (nEUpB)
Posted by: t-bird at June 12, 2012 05:44 AM (FcR7P)
Absolutely fascinating story. The Germans also spent fuckloads of money moving the Capital back to Berlin from Bonn. Oh, and Helmut Kohl had big balls too. Not like Thatcher and my Ronald Reagan but good size for a european.
Posted by: dagny at June 12, 2012 05:45 AM (WCAIB)
Too bad about what your nomination did to unemployment and inflation.
Posted by: Retread at June 12, 2012 05:45 AM (joSBv)
I doubt even Barry's most devoted sycophants can recall a single line from his historically historic German speech/rally/illegal campaign stop.
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 12, 2012 05:45 AM (GnKed)
Posted by: Jean at June 12, 2012 05:46 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: polynikes at June 12, 2012 05:46 AM (7nwJ6)
Anyway, I'll never forget where I was when I saw it.
Posted by: DanInMN at June 12, 2012 05:46 AM (XqeyF)
Posted by: Boomer Redneque at June 12, 2012 05:46 AM (As1q4)
Posted by: Thorvald at June 12, 2012 05:47 AM (OhenJ)
One day, we conservatives really need to go after the politicization of the schools and the daily brainwashing that goes on there. Or it will simply be too late for our country.
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 12, 2012 09:33 AM (Iaxlk)
I think the brainwashing and liberal indoctrination is pretty much nation wide. Thus "the children" know about global warming but can't add 1 + 1 and get 2
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 12, 2012 05:47 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 12, 2012 05:47 AM (8y9MW)
Good thinking. Maybe you could "influence" Barky to invite him as his guest. It'd be pretty hard for Barky to make serious objections, wouldn't it?
Posted by: Retread at June 12, 2012 05:47 AM (joSBv)
Posted by: dagny at June 12, 2012 05:47 AM (WCAIB)
Posted by: Up With People at June 12, 2012 05:47 AM (iYvMQ)
What the calm are you talking about?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 12, 2012 05:48 AM (8y9MW)
I'm getting the same offers in e-mails from Mitt.
Ride the zeitgeist, man.
Posted by: Kinder, Gentler HeatherRadish™ at June 12, 2012 05:48 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 12, 2012 05:48 AM (9TTOe)
Posted by: dagny at June 12, 2012 05:50 AM (WCAIB)
Looking back now, I understand how mainstream media did Reagan wrong, how they ridiculed him and claimed in every article that his politics would lead to a atomic holocaust.
I was influenced by that and my mother so much, that she wanted to leave Germany for Australia when he came to power - because we would be safer from an atomic war. We didn't get a permit to imigrate though.
Now I understand how much most of the media still is one sided and biased and can shape your whole world view. And that was in the free west of Berlin!
I never thought back then, that his words would become reality - it seemed absolutely unthinkable for people in Berlin - even for me as a kid growing up in the american sector.
Posted by: Guido at June 12, 2012 05:52 AM (DzLim)
I suppose the winner of those raffles is vetted (beyond the expected background check) so POTUS doesn't wind up with a moron like any of us.
Posted by: Retread at June 12, 2012 05:54 AM (joSBv)
Posted by: King Shout Out at June 12, 2012 05:54 AM (Y+DPZ)
I tell the formerly hippie chick Californian, now known as my wife, this all the time. Once you've had to worry about your physical safety just once, you tend to look at your fellow man differently. You realize there is such a thing as human nature, and that then leads to conservatism.
This is why the rich are overwhelmingly liberal. Their money insulates them from having to face the consequences of their ideas. So to them, everything is just peachy - and liberal - out there.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 12, 2012 05:54 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: jwpaine at June 12, 2012 05:56 AM (FUozQ)
Posted by: RR at June 12, 2012 05:57 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Vic at June 12, 2012 05:59 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Harry Potter at June 12, 2012 06:00 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: jinxthecat at June 12, 2012 06:01 AM (sfm0E)
Sounds like a poll tax to me! BRING. IT. ON.
Posted by: Jim Crow at June 12, 2012 06:01 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: momma at June 12, 2012 06:01 AM (sYijI)
What Democrats always always always forget is that when Reagan was elected in 1980, he had to work with the dems in the house, who retained a majority (243 to 192). The us senate did flip to the republicans (53 to 47) but 53 is way short of the filibuster-proof majority Barky O'Dogeater had for his first two years.
Reagan is remembered as a strong conservative in spite of not having total control of the legislative branch. Dummies like Jeb Bush and Karl Rove should just stop beclowning themselves, you can be a strong conservative AND bring people over to your side if you are a strong leader.
BTW get off my lawn. (sigh)
Posted by: Boots at June 12, 2012 06:01 AM (neKzn)
Posted by: ElijahMarijuana at June 12, 2012 06:01 AM (2hgfV)
Is it BYOD? I hope so, because I don't want any of that stringy Chihuahua crap.
Posted by: t-bird at June 12, 2012 09:39 AM (FcR7P)
Dinners with Bubba are strictly BYOP, IYKWIMAIKTYD, and you Better Bring Enuff for Everyone!
Posted by: Bill Clinton at June 12, 2012 06:01 AM (Iaxlk)
Posted by: Thorvald at June 12, 2012 06:02 AM (OhenJ)
Posted by: t-bird at June 12, 2012 06:02 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: jwpaine at June 12, 2012 09:56 AM (FUozQ)
I think it would also go a long way toward cutting down on Do-Gooderism.
Posted by: Reactionary at June 12, 2012 06:03 AM (xUM1Q)
Posted by: Thorvald at June 12, 2012 10:02 AM (OhenJ)
Amen, and amen.
Posted by: Reactionary at June 12, 2012 06:04 AM (xUM1Q)
Posted by: President Kool Kat at June 12, 2012 06:05 AM (/ZZCn)
Too bad Reagan didn't regain US control of the Panama Canal that we built. Carter's disrespect towards the Shah of Iran was unforgivable, refusing US Medical Care after the Shah was deposed and was dying. With Carter, it was one disheartening event following another. (You'd have thought that given the Clinton administrations, the Democrats had learned their lessons to eschew complete asshats.)
It was great when Carter was escorted out of the White House and Reagan's grand entrance was celebrated with our hostages in Iran returned home.
I remember how effectively Reagan delivered his speeches, including his take on "I knew nothing" of his administration's Iran/Contra Affair.
Posted by: maverick muse at June 12, 2012 06:06 AM (lpWVn)
Posted by: huerfano at June 12, 2012 06:06 AM (bAGA/)
Posted by: Thorvald at June 12, 2012 06:06 AM (OhenJ)
This morning, in the still hours, the Brandenburg Gate is festooned with advertisments and jumbo video screens set up for the fans of the European soccer championships. Visitors and fans can freely walk where, 25 years ago, bullets would have rained down on anyone in the east who attempted to cross the wall.
All I could think of was that President Reagan would most likely be pleased with the festivities and free celebrations occuring on this date, 25 years after he challenged the Soviets and set in motion the changes that would come a little more than 2 years later.
I thank God I lived throughout the Reagan presidency and pray may country can once again receives such visonary and decisive leadership.
God Bless President Ronald Reagan and the United States of America!
Posted by: RONINFAM at June 12, 2012 06:06 AM (+kZEP)
I always thought lowering the age to 18 - even when I was 18, that's just how conservative I really am - was a dumb move.
The events of 2008 proved I was right.
Posted by: Bill Clinton at June 12, 2012 06:06 AM (Iaxlk)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 12, 2012 06:07 AM (jCyfP)
Posted by: Pat Caddell at June 12, 2012 06:07 AM (e8kgV)
A great day in Germany, and for the world, bought to us by a great man, and an even greater President.
Thanks for reminding me. Always nice to start the day with a positive thought.
Posted by: Mister Money at June 12, 2012 06:07 AM (wN82N)
Depends on how you became rich, I think. Built a fortune over years with your own hands/brain, vs. having money handed to you (trust fund, being pretty).
Posted by: Kinder, Gentler HeatherRadish™ at June 12, 2012 06:08 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: huerfano at June 12, 2012 10:06 AM (bAGA/)
Reagan famously always wore a jacket and tie in the Oval Office.
President Douchebag cranks the temp to 80 in there and uses it as an excuse to practically strip down to his undies.
WHAT a disrespectful so-and-so he really is.
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 12, 2012 06:09 AM (Iaxlk)
Posted by: Deety at June 12, 2012 06:10 AM (dQCkw)
Posted by: jwpaine at June 12, 2012 06:10 AM (FUozQ)
This is why the rich are overwhelmingly liberal. Their money insulates them from having to face the consequences of their ideas.
Well, that... and voting Liberal makes them feel smugly hip, and also assuages their guilt over being rich merely because daddy's spurt happened to splash mommy in the right spot during a good handjob.
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 12, 2012 06:11 AM (Iaxlk)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2012 06:15 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at June 12, 2012 06:16 AM (wV/lv)
Posted by: Congressional Black Caucus at June 12, 2012 06:16 AM (kZVsz)
Posted by: Up With People at June 12, 2012 06:17 AM (iYvMQ)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 12, 2012 06:17 AM (fqKJV)
Posted by: Congressional Black Caucus at June 12, 2012 10:16 AM (kZVsz)
Clinton always demanded a lot of lip service, tis true...
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 12, 2012 06:18 AM (Iaxlk)
President Douchebag cranks the temp to 80 in there and uses it as an excuse to practically strip down to his undies.
WHAT a disrespectful so-and-so he really is.
That's the difference between a man who sees himself as a member of a group, a citizen of the US, and a man who sees himself as the center of his world.
Posted by: Retread at June 12, 2012 06:18 AM (joSBv)
Posted by: blaster at June 12, 2012 06:19 AM (7vSU0)
Ah, I see. You were being facetious.
Posted by: jwpaine at June 12, 2012 06:19 AM (FUozQ)
Posted by: theCork at June 12, 2012 06:22 AM (+2VuK)
Reagan sent Carter to greet the newly released hostages in Germany. On the face of it, a generous gesture so Carter could see it through to the end since it was a central crisis in his presidency, but there was a subtle 'go face the music' element in it, too.
Posted by: Retread at June 12, 2012 06:24 AM (joSBv)
Thomas Sowell. VDH, Jay Cost, Spengler ... actually I would pay to watch them have dinner with BarryO.
P.J. O'Rourke. When "well-lubricated."
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 12, 2012 06:25 AM (B+qrE)
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 12, 2012 06:25 AM (GnKed)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2012 06:25 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: tsrblke at June 12, 2012 06:25 AM (22rSN)
No. We need to go back to being a property owner in order to vote.
2) Related: ND voting to eliminate property tax. How quaint, the notion that you should own your land rather than rent it from the government. If it passes, I know damned well where I'm going to retire. (Even if it is cold as hell 80% of the time.)
3) Combined: If property taxes were eliminated, I'd have no problem with the current franchise system. Everyone will have skin in the game as only spending and earning could be taxed. (I am GD sick and tired of paying for the utter shit that comes out of our public education--especially as I have no kids.)
Posted by: RoyalOil at June 12, 2012 06:26 AM (kSaUf)
Posted by: The People of Brattleboro, Vermont at June 12, 2012 06:26 AM (48wze)
How we look at our threats.
Then: Evil Empire
Now: Overseas Contingency Operations due to man-made disasters.
Posted by: fixerupper at June 12, 2012 06:27 AM (C8hzL)
I recall Carter being interviewed years later saying he felt tremendously dissed when Reagan took office. The protocol was for the outgoing president to brief the incoming guy on what was going on. Reagan told him thats alright, don't need the talk, I'll handle it now, have a nice day.
I'm able to see both sides of this one. Carter was so awful, any "advice" would need to be summarily ignored. But, go ahead and at least take on the meeting. If nothing else, there will likely be a good nugget for your memoir.
I imagine that Barry probably pulled something similar to this during his tenure in the Office of the President-Elect. If he had, and I knew about it, I would dislike him for it.
On the other hand, if Romney pulls it, I don't think I would dislike him nearly as much... "Thanks champ, but I know all too well the situation on pretty much everything you've touched since 2008. But before you go, go ahead and take your bug out from behind the books on the credenza...and the bug up in the top of the ficus...and the other one behind the Barack Obama Commemorative Plate over there on the shelf..."
Posted by: reason at June 12, 2012 06:27 AM (kZVsz)
Posted by: Michael at June 12, 2012 06:30 AM (02Zcz)
Posted by: reason at June 12, 2012 10:27 AM (kZVsz)
Barry had to pull a 180 on his apporach to Iraq and Afghanistan (although I believe in one of the debates he talked about droning Pakistan, so there's that.) This tells me that he did take that meeting, sat down, heard the truth, shit his pants and said "It's really that bad? And here I figured it was Unicorns, rainbows and lies from you."
Frankly, I imagine that the minute an incoming president (who wasn't in any classified congress briefings) sits in that chair, get's his first TS briefing, he must flip out. The only difference is most of the past ones didn't campaign on a false reality.
Posted by: tsrblke at June 12, 2012 06:31 AM (22rSN)
"Then: Evil Empire
Now: Overseas Contingency Operations due to man-made disasters."
The Russians really missed an opportunity. They should have formed CARR, and then used that organization to bludgeon America over having their feewwigs huwt over being called "evil."
Posted by: reason at June 12, 2012 06:33 AM (kZVsz)
Well, in the real world, the military has a peculiar winnowing effect on idiots. They either become not-idiots, or they become not-living. Not a perfect filter, to be sure, but who's to say that even one less idiot does not make the world a better place?
Posted by: jwpaine at June 12, 2012 06:33 AM (FUozQ)
Posted by: Jean at June 12, 2012 06:33 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: dagny at June 12, 2012 06:34 AM (WCAIB)
Posted by: polynikes at June 12, 2012 06:34 AM (oYccn)
And take the books too, Bub. I'll be too busy to read fantasy.
Posted by: Mitt at June 12, 2012 06:35 AM (joSBv)
Vic & Mall - for all his other problems, this was where Cain's 999 would have actually done some good.
All citizens vote.
All citizens pay tax.
Yeah, there were walkbacks with prebates and all that other nonesuch, but on the surface, the notion is beautifully simple and logical. I liked it better without the prebates.
Posted by: reason at June 12, 2012 06:35 AM (kZVsz)
Posted by: Obama 2012 at June 12, 2012 06:36 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2012 06:37 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 12, 2012 06:37 AM (fqKJV)
And besides, these useless fuckheads you speak of already vote and win public office. And join the military, as far as that goes. But I''ll bet there are fewer idiots coming out of the military than going in.
Posted by: jwpaine at June 12, 2012 06:37 AM (FUozQ)
Posted by: Retread at June 12, 2012 06:38 AM (joSBv)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2012 06:40 AM (05RcU)
Reagan would have gutted Holder with a butter knife.
Today, the Rs are afraid of offending the communists.
Change indeed.
Posted by: Chowderhead at June 12, 2012 06:40 AM (AQ6wq)
On the Mubarak report.
Posted by: Retread at June 12, 2012 06:40 AM (joSBv)
"You should try it when your paying for your kids to go to Catholic school."
AMEN FROM ANOTHER DOUBLE-PAYER.
Posted by: reason at June 12, 2012 06:41 AM (RQDhf)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2012 06:41 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Vic at June 12, 2012 09:59 AM (YdQQY)
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This would eliminate active duty military, since combat pay is not taxable income.
Posted by: mama winger at June 12, 2012 06:42 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: dagny at June 12, 2012 06:42 AM (WCAIB)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2012 10:41 AM (05RcU)
Still dead, but I am beginning to believe in undead commie, fascist zombies.
Have a nice day, zombie chow.
Posted by: Chowderhead at June 12, 2012 06:43 AM (AQ6wq)
Posted by: dagny at June 12, 2012 06:44 AM (WCAIB)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2012 06:44 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 12, 2012 06:45 AM (SB0V2)
"I want Romney to fucking redecorate AT HIS OWN EXPENSE (he can afford it) the oval office and get rid of that nasty shit the Mooch put in there. "
Even if he did, everything would be critiqued in the "lifestyle" section of major newspapers, and deemed gaudy, elitist, and out-of-touch for a country "teetering on the brink of a double-dip depression!"
I'm generally one that prefers minimalist decoration, anyway, so my personal bias would probably be to take down all the garbage and put up simple understated stuff. Mrs. Reason likes to sew, and has "made" all the window stuff for both of the kids' rooms. I wonder how the media would handle Ann Romney making her own drapes? Good Lord, how on Earth would they spin that?
Posted by: reason at June 12, 2012 06:45 AM (RQDhf)
Can someone explain why Pixie has not been indicted for crimes against 21st century blogs?
The International criminal court needs to track he/she/it down and prosecute it for blog crimes.
Posted by: Chowderhead at June 12, 2012 06:46 AM (AQ6wq)
It was the best money we ever spent and I would do it again in a heartbeat.
Posted by: mama winger at June 12, 2012 06:47 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: dagny at June 12, 2012 06:47 AM (WCAIB)
Posted by: dagny at June 12, 2012 10:32 AM (WCAIB)
Of natural causes.
Because, you know... it's natural to die, after a bullet crashes thru your skull.
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 12, 2012 06:47 AM (Iaxlk)
Posted by: Jean at June 12, 2012 06:48 AM (WkuV6)
The military does a pretty good job at taking the "I" out of "team."
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 12, 2012 06:48 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Up With People at June 12, 2012 06:49 AM (iYvMQ)
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I looked at it as reducing the amount of bail money I would likely have to pay out.
Posted by: mama winger at June 12, 2012 06:50 AM (P6QsQ)
If I had a son, he would be named Mubarack!
Posted by: Barry Obama at June 12, 2012 06:50 AM (Iaxlk)
You change who joins the military, and their reasons for doing so, and you'll change the military.
Careful what you wish for.
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 12, 2012 06:50 AM (GnKed)
As has been said before, the difference between Obama and most liberal Dems is that Obama really truly believes the bullshit he spouts. He genuinely thinks you can simply eliminate the private sector and have paradise, which is why he said it's #DoingJustFine.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 12, 2012 06:51 AM (tqwMN)
Ah yes, the drunk, former boxer with an anger management problem. Nothing would make me happier than for him to watch his life flash before his eyes while watching the 2012 election returns.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 12, 2012 06:51 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2012 06:51 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: dagny at June 12, 2012 10:34 AM (WCAIB)
First I'd like him to send in the Orkin Man at his personal expense, to fumigate the place.
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 12, 2012 06:51 AM (Iaxlk)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2012 06:52 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: dagny at June 12, 2012 06:52 AM (WCAIB)
The reason I specified "income tax" is to prevent circumventing the requirement by counting sales, tax, gas tax, and other excise taxes that can be paid with said welfare and EIC payments.
People who advocate property owners are really harkening back to the early colonial days where you could not vote or hold office unless you owned property because that was the only tax to any extent. (until the British started with all the excise taxes)
And I agree, the 999 program, as well as the so-called Fair Tax is a disaster as they continue the current problems.
I would be in favor of a pure flat tax of 10% with no deductions and no exception on all forms of income, no matter the source. I would also tie that to a requirement that the federal spending per year be limited to the total taxes gathered during the previous year. (except in time of a declared war by congress).
Posted by: Vic at June 12, 2012 06:53 AM (YdQQY)
@KatiePavlich
"What my future holds, I'm not sure" -Holder #fastandfurious
Posted by: laceyunderalls at June 12, 2012 06:53 AM (pLTLS)
Posted by: Jean at June 12, 2012 06:54 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 12, 2012 10:48 AM (Iaxlk)
Sleeping
Posted by: dagny at June 12, 2012 06:54 AM (WCAIB)
The school uniforms don't kill me, but YMMV. It's money that I'd either be spending at the local uniform supply shop (yay, support local economy?), or I'd be spending at Walmart and - or department stores. The uniforms we get are a little spendy, but they're sturdy and seem to get outgrown rather than worn out. The school even has an unofficial swap-meet at the start of the year where parents can buy used items off of other parents. Again, that's just our situation. I dont' feel like we're spending double on clothes for the kids.
Lunches for us all come from home, with the occassional special lunch that the school provides in exchange for a "donation" to one of the ministries. Our kid is a picky eater, so at least I know she's getting a sack of stuff she's going to eat, rather than sending bucks with her for her to spend, and then not eat, and come home hungry. Again, just us. I know.
Next year, we'll have both going to school, and we had to put in for financial aid to afford the tuition. Thank God we got it.
On the TX primary ballot, there were "initiative" votes. One of them was for vouchers or tax credits for parents who send their kids to non-public schools. I think I voted for that more heartily than I voted for any candidate. Mrs. Reason probably wore a hole through her ballot with the pen.
Posted by: reason at June 12, 2012 06:54 AM (RQDhf)
Posted by: dagny at June 12, 2012 06:55 AM (WCAIB)
Posted by: Y-not at June 12, 2012 06:55 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: dagny at June 12, 2012 10:47 AM (WCAIB)
You are represented by a Kennedy? I do feel your pain.
Mexican TV rocks. They don't give the smallest shit about being PC. It is all tits and ass all day.
I think I love Mexicans.
Posted by: Chowderhead at June 12, 2012 06:56 AM (AQ6wq)
Posted by: mama winger at June 12, 2012 10:42 AM (P6QsQ)
But all their other income is taxable. Besides an exception can be made for military in combat zones, but we have to be careful there. Once you make one exception the flood gates will open and we wind back up where we are now.
Posted by: Vic at June 12, 2012 06:56 AM (YdQQY)
"Because, you know... it's natural to die, after a bullet crashes thru your skull."
Slipped and fell. Chest first. Onto two rounds of buckshot.
What? We had one of those yellow plastic "watch your step" signs up...
Posted by: The Janitor. Totally. Just a janitor. at June 12, 2012 06:57 AM (RQDhf)
You're forgetting the tools the military has at its disposal for people who don't measure up. It's not like civilian justice..or even civilian HR practices. The stylish battalion and company commander has everything from judge-jury-executioner-all-rolled-into-one Article 15s, to larger UCMJ actions, to my personal favorite - bars of soap wrapped in towels at 2 am.
As a company commander I was also a huge fan of the Chapter 11 (180 day discharge) and later I got to use chapter 10, 12 and 14 on more than one occasion.
Again, I still think it would be a net positive.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 12, 2012 06:57 AM (sbV1u)
I think you overestimate the volume of "useless fuckheads" who would join the military just to be able to vote.
Posted by: jwpaine at June 12, 2012 06:57 AM (FUozQ)
Posted by: Jean at June 12, 2012 06:57 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: mama winger at June 12, 2012 06:59 AM (P6QsQ)
And while the EIC is abused, the truth is the cost of the EIC pales in light of the cost of Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and all other entitlement programs. Which is why Paul Ryan keeps harping about this..........we can never get the budget under control if we do not get the cost of entitlements under control.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at June 12, 2012 10:53 AM (OWjjx)
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I didn't know that. What I do know is that somehow people with three kids and an entry level job, or even NO job somehow get a 2-5K "refund" check every year.
Posted by: Up With People at June 12, 2012 06:59 AM (iYvMQ)
Posted by: soothsayer, for your own good at June 12, 2012 07:01 AM (GcwH1)
Posted by: president o'bumbles at June 12, 2012 07:02 AM (nrW1y)
Posted by: soothsayer, for your own good at June 12, 2012 07:03 AM (Y4TdB)
The EIC, being a credit, means you can get back more than you paid in. So all you have to do is file a 1040 and you get it provided you have at least one qualifying kid (which enables all kinds of other shit welfare right now).
Posted by: Vic at June 12, 2012 07:04 AM (YdQQY)
Is that still true?
Exhibit A: Nidal Hassan.
Posted by: Kinder, Gentler HeatherRadish™ at June 12, 2012 07:04 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 12, 2012 07:05 AM (SB0V2)
And I think you underestimate the problems you'd introduce.
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 12, 2012 07:05 AM (GnKed)
Posted by: soothsayer, for your own good at June 12, 2012 07:05 AM (YO+5B)
Posted by: Retread at June 12, 2012 07:05 AM (joSBv)
Posted by: Mindy at June 12, 2012 07:05 AM (iUV2E)
You have a misconception about "savings and investments" and taxes. I am basically living off of savings and investments right now and am paying a shit pot in taxes.
Posted by: Vic at June 12, 2012 07:05 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 12, 2012 07:06 AM (Iaxlk)
I wish you would have sent the last one back unopened, Mindy.
:^)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 12, 2012 07:07 AM (nrW1y)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2012 07:07 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: mama winger at June 12, 2012 10:59 AM (P6QsQ)
Surely he is not in the combat zone ALL the time?
Posted by: Vic at June 12, 2012 07:07 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Retread at June 12, 2012 07:09 AM (joSBv)
Posted by: HisOldFriends at June 12, 2012 07:10 AM (05RcU)
This has absolutely zero to do with raising taxes. It simply requires someone who pays a net positive in taxes before they can vote.
Posted by: Vic at June 12, 2012 07:10 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: soothsayer, for your own good at June 12, 2012 07:11 AM (KUrJA)
I'm feeling much better!
Well, except for that whole imprisoned for life in a fanatical third world shithole thing...
Posted by: Mubarak at June 12, 2012 07:11 AM (Iaxlk)
Posted by: Retread at June 12, 2012 07:11 AM (joSBv)
Posted by: Israel at June 12, 2012 07:12 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Mindy at June 12, 2012 07:14 AM (iUV2E)
Posted by: jwpaine at June 12, 2012 07:14 AM (FUozQ)
Posted by: Mindy at June 12, 2012 11:05 AM (iUV2E)
Same here. I was absolutely thrilled to send that weak piece of shit peanut farmer back to his farm. You just had a sense that RR was going to turn things around. I remember carter's answer for everything was "let us join hands". Carter was and still is a moose turd.
Posted by: Berserker at June 12, 2012 07:14 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: Vic at June 12, 2012 07:15 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at June 12, 2012 07:15 AM (UU0OF)
We've got a helluva fire going on here in Colorado up by Fort Collins.
I live 50 miles south, and woke up to smoke in the neighborhood this morning.
So I naturally checked the web, including the Colorado Division of Emergency Management page ( http://tinyurl.com/7cc5d8l ), and the link to the tweets (@COEMERGENCY -- http://tinyurl.com/76g2q5g ) as well.
Words cannot express how offensive it is to see Mitt Romney, the Congress, etc. blamed.
They did NOT cause the fire, lack of funding did not start the thing (it was lightning), and more money will not put it out any quicker.
Since Ace encourages soul cleansing, I thought I'd get that off my chest.
The frustrating part is that there's no way to get that nonsense out of the issue without diluting irrelevant politics with things that are currently killing people and making them sick.
Posted by: jwb7605 enhancing his calm at June 12, 2012 07:15 AM (Qxe/p)
Modesty is not one of his character flaws.
Posted by: Retread at June 12, 2012 07:15 AM (joSBv)
Posted by: reason at June 12, 2012 07:16 AM (sPO/s)
Posted by: mpfs at June 12, 2012 07:17 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: joncelli, heartless con and all-around unpleasant guy at June 12, 2012 07:17 AM (RD7QR)
“There has been a unfortunate consolidation of power in #OWS,” writes one founding Zuccotti. “This translates into ideological dominance and recurring lines of thought. We are facing a nauseating poverty of ideas.”
Clue: it was a stupid idea, you executed it stupidly, and it will remain stupid.
Posted by: WalrusRex at June 12, 2012 07:19 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: ErikW at June 12, 2012 07:19 AM (EZX1e)
http://is.gd/QpG94H
Posted by: Vic at June 12, 2012 07:19 AM (YdQQY)
Modesty is not one of his character flaws.
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Nor morality.
Posted by: WalrusRex at June 12, 2012 07:20 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: ErikW at June 12, 2012 11:19 AM (EZX1e)
SCOTUSBLOG is expecting it sometime in the last two week of this month.
Posted by: Vic at June 12, 2012 07:20 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Retread at June 12, 2012 07:22 AM (joSBv)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 12, 2012 07:22 AM (fqKJV)
I would like to point out he was ::: ahem :::: in the Army Medical Specialist Corps. It's not like he was a combat soldier, or even combat support. Hell, I know combat service support soliders with more military bearing than him - and that's saying something.
The Army medical community is, as any real solider knows, much less military than the Army as a whole. Shit, I once watched a Specialist call a Colonel who was a doctor "Bill."
I didn't know what was worse, that the Specialist did that or that the "Colonel" let him get away with it.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 12, 2012 07:23 AM (sbV1u)
Every now and then a gem can be found on PBS and about 2 years ago they aired a fascinating documentary on how the Wall came to be and how it went down. It's only about 45 minutes long and well worth your time and your kids' time. Mine have watched it a couple of times and they were only 9 and 11 at the time. See it here: http://tinyurl.com/6w8n2pe
There is a part 2 as well that I have not seen yet at the same link. (How did the bold get turned on?)
Posted by: HungryKitteh at June 12, 2012 07:23 AM (+SXKV)
He was getting to be an old Giza, wasn't he?
Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 12, 2012 11:22 AM (fqKJV)
*GROAN*
10 Points Deducted from House of Slithering Punsters for that one.
Posted by: Mubarak at June 12, 2012 07:24 AM (Iaxlk)
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I guess it's better than "lying while standing up to my half-chin in blood."
Posted by: WalrusRex at June 12, 2012 07:24 AM (Hx5uv)
Distinction without difference.
>>To claim the EIC you have to have "earned" income
Meh. Show up to a entry-level job of your choice for a pay period and voila...you've got "earned" income to report on a 1040. Now you can kick back and relax and collect your welfare, and get a new TV next February when the big check comes in.
Posted by: Kinder, Gentler HeatherRadish™ at June 12, 2012 07:24 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: mpfs at June 12, 2012 07:25 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: HungryKitteh at June 12, 2012 07:25 AM (+SXKV)
305 302 >>>Mubarak died He was getting to be an old Giza, wasn't he?
Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 12, 2012 11:22 AM (fqKJV)
I think it was a problem with his Sphynxter.
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 12, 2012 07:26 AM (Iaxlk)
Distinction without difference.
No, that's a distinction WITH a difference.
The original point was the military has the tools to deal with miscreants. That some weak-kneed "leaders" in the Army medical community chose not to use them does not change the original point.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 12, 2012 07:27 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2012 07:28 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: joncelli, heartless con and all-around unpleasant guy at June 12, 2012 07:28 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: ErikW at June 12, 2012 07:28 AM (Z4kkN)
I think it was a problem with his Sphynxter.
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 12, 2012 11:26 AM (Iaxlk)
Tut Tut, don't speak ill of the (mostly) dead.
Posted by: joncelli, heartless con and all-around unpleasant guy at June 12, 2012 11:28 AM (RD7QR)
This thread is turning into the Mummy of All Puns.
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 12, 2012 07:29 AM (Iaxlk)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 12, 2012 07:29 AM (fqKJV)
It always amazed me that that Klinger guy on MASH could get away with wearing a dress.
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Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 12, 2012 07:29 AM (tf9Ne)
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Well, hell, Cracker, that's the way I intended you to feel when I voted for Reagan.
Posted by: WalrusRex at June 12, 2012 07:29 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2012 07:29 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Vic at June 12, 2012 07:29 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 12, 2012 07:30 AM (fqKJV)
Posted by: ErikW at June 12, 2012 11:28 AM (Z4kkN)
Stau away from SCROTUSBLOG. Too in your face.
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 12, 2012 07:30 AM (Iaxlk)
Translation: Those who desire power obtained it and control the movement now. It has officially become just one more institution among many.
Oh dear OWSer. Please review Federalist #51 for further explanation of this phenomena. I don't know what insults me more about the average OWSer, their utter ignorance of the philosophies which led to the founding of the Republic, or their arrogance in that they think that knowledge is useless and their ideas are so unique new and better.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at June 12, 2012 07:30 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: theCork at June 12, 2012 07:32 AM (hbAdE)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 12, 2012 11:30 AM (fqKJV)
Where you lead, others will pharoah...
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 12, 2012 07:32 AM (Iaxlk)
Durban: What are you doing to stop purges of voter rolls? No evidence of voter fraud there.
Holder: We are suing FL within the next few days.
Durban: I hope it doesn't happen but it is neccessary.
Momma: Fucck you Durban.
Posted by: momma at June 12, 2012 07:32 AM (lEJ+I)
“This translates into ideological dominance and recurring lines of thought. We are facing a nauseating poverty of ideas.”
"Hey, man, what should we do today?" - "I dunno. What do you wanna do?" - "I dunno...bang some drums?" - "Nah, we did that yesterday..." - "Dang, this is too much like work. If I wanted to work, I'd go be a 1%er. I'm gonna go to my tent and take a nap. Let me know when we figure out what we're doing..."
Posted by: reason at June 12, 2012 07:32 AM (sPO/s)
No mention that section IV of the Motor Voter Law REQUIRES that. Both of these people should be locked up.
Posted by: Vic at June 12, 2012 07:34 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2012 07:34 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Jean at June 12, 2012 07:34 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: momma at June 12, 2012 07:34 AM (lEJ+I)
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Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 12, 2012 11:29 AM (tf9Ne)
Yup.
He was a Bitter Klinger.
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 12, 2012 07:34 AM (Iaxlk)
I don't think Heinlein himself actually espoused this as a plan, but he did clearly see the problem with warm body suffrage and used that as the basis for a novel.
Personally, I think where we got off the track was eliminating the pauper's oath. If you can't support yourself, you shouldn't be able to vote until you can. But that stigmatizes the parasites so we can't have that.
Posted by: DanInMN at June 12, 2012 07:36 AM (XqeyF)
Who is questing him now? I only have sound.
He is saying with dates: 'You mislead Congres.....' with several dates. Awesome.
Just pointed out that BO big donor is on special council.
ha!
Posted by: momma at June 12, 2012 07:36 AM (lEJ+I)
This is why Ace doesn't reed his own blog.
Posted by: reason at June 12, 2012 11:34 AM (sPO/s)
Sometimes he comes across as wrapped too tightly.
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 12, 2012 07:36 AM (Iaxlk)
Posted by: jwpaine at June 12, 2012 07:37 AM (FUozQ)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 12, 2012 07:37 AM (fqKJV)
Posted by: mpfs at June 12, 2012 07:38 AM (iYbLN)
"Sometimes he comes across as wrapped too tightly."
He can't do that. This is how he scarabs all the lurkers away.
Posted by: reason at June 12, 2012 07:39 AM (sPO/s)
I still don't see how having tools and refusing to use them leads to a different outcome than not having the tools. But I work in the private sector.
Posted by: Kinder, Gentler HeatherRadish™ at June 12, 2012 07:39 AM (ZKzrr)
This guy is going down.
He said that to Leahy.
LEAHY FFS!
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 12, 2012 07:39 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: mpfs at June 12, 2012 07:40 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: mpfs at June 12, 2012 11:38 AM (iYbLN)
You're just being nice to me because I said you're cute last night
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 12, 2012 07:40 AM (Iaxlk)
We weren't discussing outcomes, we we discussing whether or not the tools existed.
Do they often mix apples and oranges successfully in the private sector?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 12, 2012 07:41 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: mpfs at June 12, 2012 11:40 AM (iYbLN)
I would SO dearly love to see him led off by two cops to the waiting patrol car, with a raincoat between his hands to hide the cuffs. Let's see him smirk then!
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 12, 2012 07:41 AM (Iaxlk)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 12, 2012 07:42 AM (nrW1y)
@347 - uh-oh, he's close to losing his cool it sounds like.
Guess he's gonna send a text to one of the (D)'s in attendance to start bickering with the other congresscritters there about how they're treating him, as a diversion.
Posted by: reason at June 12, 2012 07:43 AM (sPO/s)
I would SO dearly love to see him led off by two cops to the waiting patrol car, with a raincoat between his hands to hide the cuffs. Let's see him smirk then!
***
They're going to frog march Cheney into prison any day now for leaking the Valerie Plame info.
Posted by: WalrusRex at June 12, 2012 07:43 AM (Hx5uv)
That reminds me of this quote.
I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. — Benjamin Franklin
The left love keeping the poor right where they are dependent on them.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 12, 2012 07:44 AM (tf9Ne)
I did my queen. When I finally get to Google+ I'll use it.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 12, 2012 07:45 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: mpfs at June 12, 2012 11:38 AM (iYbLN)
You're just being nice to me because I said you're cute last night
Posted by: CoolCzech
Well yeah. Also you are pretty good with the bad puns today.
Posted by: mpfs at June 12, 2012 07:45 AM (iYbLN)
Are you for real? Do you ever leave your house?
OK, you've convinced me. Any old shitstain should be encouraged to join the service, because there's a tool to kick him out that no one is willing to use.
Posted by: Kinder, Gentler HeatherRadish™ at June 12, 2012 07:45 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: joncelli, heartless con and all-around unpleasant guy at June 12, 2012 07:45 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2012 07:45 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Sean Bannion
I was going to use Race Bannion but I thought Bandit fit you better
Posted by: mpfs at June 12, 2012 07:45 AM (iYbLN)
Heh. Where I work, mixing them requires a Project Plan.
Posted by: fluffy at June 12, 2012 07:46 AM (z9HTb)
" What is it with all the ancient Egypt puns."
We're commemorating Mubarak's possible-death as only morons can. With jest and frivolity. Join us, Tut Suite!
Posted by: reason at June 12, 2012 07:46 AM (sPO/s)
limitation: Everybody fights. In a battle, the medic, the chaplain, the
cook are all right there in the trenches with the infantryman--because
they themselves are also infantrymen; those other duties are ancillary
to their primary duty: Inflict casualties on the enemy.
Posted by: jwpaine at June 12, 2012 11:37 AM (FUozQ)
I like what he thought about the evils of specialization in terms of a general principle, but taken too far it just doesn't hold water. When the fighting is going on somebody has to be trasporting fuel and ammo, getting food to the men, focusing on fixing wounded vs. shooting, etc. Everybody has a role, and some of those non-fighting roles are indispensible until you're at the point of dire extremity.
Posted by: Reactionary at June 12, 2012 07:46 AM (xUM1Q)
Posted by: Ezra's Equal at June 12, 2012 07:47 AM (0XPAv)
Look, last comment on this. Don't make your inability to follow the logic train my problem. OK? We got your point, but your point wasn't the point we were discussing.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 12, 2012 07:47 AM (sbV1u)
I don't see anyone on the committee with a bad weave who would do that for Holder.
Posted by: mpfs at June 12, 2012 07:47 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: dagny at June 12, 2012 07:48 AM (WCAIB)
Posted by: joncelli, heartless con and all-around unpleasant guy at June 12, 2012 07:49 AM (RD7QR)
On Microsoft Project....with EV calculations to 13 decimal places.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 12, 2012 07:49 AM (sbV1u)
I think we need to start drinking every time there is a reference to the Bush Administration. We all should be shattered in about 20 minutes.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 12, 2012 07:51 AM (sbV1u)
But first you will blow me.
Posted by: Mel Gibson at June 12, 2012 07:51 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: Journolist at June 12, 2012 07:52 AM (VyNyZ)
True. I should have pointed that out. Yet, his critique of unfettered democracy runs strongly through his entire body of work. In fact, he (or I should say, one of his characters) proposed something similar to your "you don't work? Then you don't vote" proposal. And in Glory Road he (as the FP narrator) mused that warm-body suffrage was analogous to the stupidity of adding zeros to the left of a decimal point to make the number larger.
OTOH, I suspect that the instructor's discussions in the Ethics class in Starship Troopers are (at least to a certain extent) Heinlein's "This is John Galt speaking" moments.
Posted by: jwpaine at June 12, 2012 07:55 AM (FUozQ)
Posted by: CoolCzech"
No, Bambi should sit on Ayers' lap while Ayers' does the funny voice...
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at June 12, 2012 07:57 AM (98Ox4)
Posted by: Journolist at June 12, 2012 07:58 AM (VyNyZ)
http://tinyurl.com/6smdfpy
Posted by: resolve at June 12, 2012 07:58 AM (oZfic)
Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at June 12, 2012 07:58 AM (oipCQ)
"They're going to frog march Cheney into prison any day now for leaking the Valerie Plame info."
48 business hours!
Posted by: Will Pitt, Head DUmmie at June 12, 2012 08:00 AM (sPO/s)
From soledad obrien tweet:
Neice Cameron graduated today! Driving back from Baltimore now. My msg for all grads is the same: ignore folks who try to limit you.
Posted by: dagny at June 12, 2012 08:01 AM (WCAIB)
And those people exist, even in Heinlein's novel. They're called civilians.
Posted by: jwpaine at June 12, 2012 08:03 AM (FUozQ)
I occasionally make a mistake. I know, I know. Hard to believe isn't it?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 12, 2012 08:03 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: jwpaine at June 12, 2012 08:07 AM (FUozQ)
Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at June 12, 2012 08:08 AM (oipCQ)
Posted by: reason at June 12, 2012 08:08 AM (RQDhf)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at June 12, 2012 08:08 AM (CP+yl)
Posted by: Paladin at June 12, 2012 08:20 AM (LTquJ)
Posted by: Paladin at June 12, 2012 08:26 AM (LTquJ)
Posted by: The People of Brattleboro, Vermont at June 12, 2012 08:42 AM (48wze)
My first "Wake-Up Call" that I wasn't a kid anymore was when the 25th anniversary of the Moon landing came up, and I realized that someone I was working with hadn't been born yet when it happened.
My second was when I talked to a young German woman (in more recent years) who was born in the part of Germany that used to be East Germany, got an engineering degree, and went to work in Bavaria (was part of West Germany). She not only didn't seem to know anything about The Wall, but seemed pretty clueless about what had to have been a the painful and expensive process of reunification.
When Reagan gave this speech, I practically chuckled at it - in a "Not in MY lifetime, pal" kind of way. It seemed like overdone political theater, to me. I couldn't be happier to have been proven completely wrong.
Posted by: Optimizer at June 12, 2012 09:02 AM (As94z)
Posted by: theCork at June 12, 2012 09:43 AM (hbAdE)
It is a wind that promises the cold comfort of equal outcome, if only we give up the ability to try and fail. It promises us safety by eliminating risk, it promises health by eliminating uncertainty, but only delivers in making choices for you, without your consent. The great enemy of totalitarianism is no longer behind a wall, nor a tank on the border, but is now found in empty promises emanating from the halls of power across the world. That if only we give up one more choice, one more freedom, they will deliver to us a more perfect world.
Yet we who appreciate history, who watch these actions with critical eyes and trust in our own judgment first can see these for the hollow lies that they are. That the more perfect world never arrives, and is always prevented by some new crisis, requiring some new sacrifice. These people try to regulate the internet and restrict speech in the guise of political correctness, and name everything under the sun as hate speech to prevent you from exercising your opinions. They seek to bury your ability to express yourself, aping the Orwellian concepts of thoughtcrime and newspeak. I say to the world at large, beware of he that would restrict your access to information, for he dreams himself your master.
This wind of totalitarianism, if we stand firmly before it and, will soon blow past us and be forgotten in the pages of history. We can stand against these people, their agendas, their narrative, and their lies, secure in the truth and rightness of our cause. If we do this, if we oppose with manly firmness these intrusions upon our sacred liberty, we will see a new birth of freedom throughout the world.
This is a time for choosing, and the choice is yours. Security and the ever-increasing cost that it demands, or the chaos of liberty and the endless bounty that it pours. Choose wisely, because time is running out.
Posted by: Cato at June 12, 2012 10:42 AM (QEqTG)
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