October 20, 2012

2ND DEBATE BOUNCE BEGINS...
— CAC

For Romney, per Rasmussen reports (numbers will post shortly on his site)

National: Romney 49 Obama 48 (up +1 Romney from yesterday)

Swing State Tracker: Romney 50 Obama 46

(I am being dramatic on that one-point bounce, if you can't tell. Many expected the 2nd debate to start a "comeback" story for the President, but the polling results have continued to trend against him.)

Also Gravis has a new poll coming out this morning from Ohio pegging the race a 47%-47% tie, with a D+9 sample.

Expect PPP to pull it's usual later today, though with IA, NH, and even CO releases earlier this week, who knows?

Still waiting on Mason-Dixon to, you know, recognize there is a state south of Michigan, north of Kentucky/West Virginia, west of Pennsylvania and east of Indiana. Suffolk too, for that matter. Get on the ball, fellas.

Posted by: CAC at 05:34 AM | Comments (335)
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1 Obama sucks cock. How 40 something % of people dont realize that is beyond me.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at October 20, 2012 05:37 AM (++kZl)

2 Five minutes and no comments yet? Not that I myself have anything to say...

Posted by: Grey Fox at October 20, 2012 05:38 AM (ezH8Z)

3 Ohio is about 2 points to the right of the nation. If Romney indeed has a 4-6 point national lead, there is no way I see him losing OIHO.

Posted by: Aerofanatic at October 20, 2012 05:38 AM (itrvW)

4 My wife commented on the utter sparseness of Obama signs in Boulder yesterday.
She said she saw 4 Romney/Ryan signs on her way home from school.

I wonder if that means something.

Posted by: jwb7605 at October 20, 2012 05:38 AM (Qxe/p)

5 Three weeks and counting with a Romney sticker on my car here in Chicago, and still no key marks! Yes, I enjoy tempting the open minded, tolerant lib set.

Posted by: Swanny at October 20, 2012 05:42 AM (ZthpO)

6 How  can  this  be?!  I  helped  Barry  all  I  could!  Good  thing  my  larder  is  fully  stocked  with  delicious  edibles.  Think  the  cats  and  I  will  stay  in  this  weekend  to  weep  and  feast.

Posted by: Candy Crowley at October 20, 2012 05:43 AM (OiC7K)

7 Seventh!

Posted by: Burn the Witch at October 20, 2012 05:44 AM (uD2fR)

8 Did someone hack into CAC's Moron account and post this?  'Cause's there's no mondo sized political map of the country in this post.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at October 20, 2012 05:45 AM (fkrtu)

9 Here's what I am thinking, just like Vic.

Time for a song.


http://tinyurl.com/dkozn5

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 20, 2012 05:45 AM (wR+pz)

10 Obama will lose. Plain and Simple. Vote on November 6. Tell your friends to vote Romney. America cannot stand for more years of Obama.

Posted by: FedupWithFed at October 20, 2012 05:45 AM (PeRlA)

11 What? No ginormous map that makes the comments unreadable? Pshaw!

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 20, 2012 05:46 AM (GEICT)

12 Over on the group FB page, there are a couple of posts about how Tagg owns some stock on a company that owns part of a company that made the voting machines in two counties in Ohio. The lefties are freaking out spinning wild conspiracies. No surer proof is there that they know they have lost Ohio than already blaming a conspiracy.

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 20, 2012 05:47 AM (imtbm)

13 The Gallup national tracking poll now shows a very strong lead for Mitt Romney. As of Friday, he was ahead by six points among likely voters, having led by seven points on Thursday. However, the pollÂ’s results are deeply inconsistent with the results that other polling firms are showing in the presidential race, and the Gallup poll has a history of performing very poorly when that is the case.

Posted by: Nate Silver at October 20, 2012 05:49 AM (2UX1i)

14 That's right, Democrat bitches, I've rigged this thing, so you can just stay home on Nov. 6th. *wink*

Posted by: Tagg Romney at October 20, 2012 05:50 AM (a0nis)

Posted by: runner at October 20, 2012 05:51 AM (WR5xI)

16 Over on the group FB page, there are a couple of posts about how Tagg owns some stock on a company that owns part of a company that made the voting machines in two counties in Ohio. The lefties are freaking out spinning wild conspiracies. No surer proof is there that they know they have lost Ohio than already blaming a conspiracy. That's just projection because Rory Reid, son of Harry, owns the warehouses that store the voting machines in Nevada.

Posted by: parteagirl at October 20, 2012 05:51 AM (5b7+O)

17 I must break you.

Posted by: Tagg Romney at October 20, 2012 05:51 AM (++kZl)

18 Over on the group FB page, there are a couple of posts about how Tagg owns some stock on a company that owns part of a company that made the voting machines in two counties in Ohio. The lefties are freaking out spinning wild conspiracies.

No surer proof is there that they know they have lost Ohio than already blaming a conspiracy.


So he's potential a minority owner of a company, that's a minority owner of another company that's involved with voting machines?  So unless he's on the board for one or both of the companies, how is he going to rig the machines.

Ah yes.  Is there nothing that magic underwear can't do.

Posted by: John P. Squibob, wishing he stayed active enough to get LDS magic underwear at October 20, 2012 05:51 AM (fkrtu)

19 Winning campaigns don't lead with Big Bird and binders.  I don't need to see the polls to know which campaign is imploding.

Posted by: Matt at October 20, 2012 05:52 AM (ljiM/)

20

Many expected the 2nd debate to start a "comeback" story for the President

 

 

Well, many leftists did.

Posted by: Truman North at October 20, 2012 05:52 AM (I2LwF)

21 However, the incumbent's accomplishments are deeply inconsistent with the results that other incumbents have shown in their first terms, and these inferior incumbents have a history of performing very poorly when that is the case.

Posted by: The Rephrased Nate Silver at October 20, 2012 05:52 AM (9WkMB)

22 Romney will take Ohio by 3-5 points.

Posted by: Honey Badger at October 20, 2012 05:53 AM (cDwCa)

23 These polls showing it tied in OH with HUGE Dem oversamples should be scaring the shit out of Team Obama.  I mean, there is simply no way there will be a Dem +9 turnout in OH.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at October 20, 2012 05:53 AM (hlUJY)

24 Obama just didn't want to start his comeback too early and lose steam before the election. He's got this third debate on lock.

Posted by: Liberal at October 20, 2012 05:53 AM (a0nis)

25 ohio 2008 "turnout" was d + 8, 2004 was r+5, and they are using a d+9 in 2012 ?? what a bunch of malarkey!

Posted by: runner at October 20, 2012 05:54 AM (WR5xI)

26 That state - wait, wait, I got this. TORONTO.

Posted by: boulder hobo at October 20, 2012 05:54 AM (vCyy6)

27 I don't see how Obama loses Toronto. You wingers are toast

Posted by: boulder hobo at October 20, 2012 05:54 AM (vCyy6)

28 I'd guess that it's getting *really* hard to poll in Ohio by now.

I've heard anecdotal reports that people are getting a dozen calls a day from campaigns, push-pollers, and pollsters, and have just stopped answering their phones.

We've heard that *nationally* the polling companies are getting 9% response rate -- what's the rate like in Ohio?

Posted by: Clint at October 20, 2012 05:55 AM (IJDTs)

29 Swing State Tracker: Romney 50 Obama 46

Considering Rasmussen's swing state tracker includes States like PA, MI and WI this is very very scary for Obama.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at October 20, 2012 05:56 AM (hlUJY)

30 And remember, Rasmussen is still using a Dem +5 sample (for some bizarre reason).

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at October 20, 2012 05:56 AM (hlUJY)

31 WHY DEM OVERSAMPLING HELPS ROMNEY:

Because in the final week or so, these pollsters have to get real with their sample.  They can't miss by 5 or 6 points.

This means a HUGE surge to Romney in the final week.  Believe me, all of this bogus oversampling for Obama is 100% to show it close so Dems will vote early.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at October 20, 2012 05:59 AM (hlUJY)

32 11/2 R/O yard signs on my way home from Safeway. Granted, this is Colo. Springs, but four years ago it was 60/40 Obama over McCain in my part of town. At minimum, the enthusiasm for President Not Optimal is in the toilet.

Posted by: Ferb Fletcher at October 20, 2012 05:59 AM (hyP1j)

33 Also Gravis has a new poll coming out this morning from Ohio pegging the race a 47%-47% tie, with a D+9 sample.

To infinity, and beyond!

Posted by: Buzz Pollster at October 20, 2012 06:00 AM (6TB1Z)

34 Meatball

Posted by: JohnE. at October 20, 2012 06:00 AM (ZXUMn)

35

There's no way my state will be D+9 on election day...

Posted by: knob (R-OH) at October 20, 2012 06:00 AM (vRuUF)

36 You guy's have no idea how hard it is to do what I do! The polls are all trending toward Romney. Hell, even my adjusted polling averages show more of a trend towards Romney than the straight-up poll averages. It took some gourmet-level stat cooking to show a 78.93625% chance for Obama. I'd like to see any of you try it.

Posted by: Nate's ill. Very. at October 20, 2012 06:01 AM (NWLVJ)

37 Until yesterday, I hadn't seen ANY yard signs for president.  Lots of local/state stuff, with some CT US Senate.  I finally saw ONE Obama sign....on a street that should have been covered in Obama signs.

Posted by: Tami at October 20, 2012 06:01 AM (X6akg)

38 Hey, CAC! You've had a thread up for like 30 minutes and no stomping!

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 20, 2012 06:01 AM (GEICT)

39 25 ohio 2008 "turnout" was d + 8, 2004 was r+5, and they are using a d+9 in 2012 ?? what a bunch of malarkey! _____ Watch your mouth! It's a bunch of "stuff."

Posted by: Sheriff Joey at October 20, 2012 06:02 AM (NWLVJ)

40 Good thing my larder is fully stocked with delicious edibles. Think the cats and I will stay in this weekend to weep and feast.
Posted by: Candy Crowley


Errrrr, hate to break it to you, Candy, but YOU are our delicious edible.  Make sure you lock the doors so the neighbors can't get in.

Posted by: Candy Crowley's cats at October 20, 2012 06:02 AM (6TB1Z)

41 @10, for = 4

Posted by: FedupWithFed at October 20, 2012 06:02 AM (PeRlA)

42

PLUS 9 for OH CAC?  Good God....what will Gravis have next week...PLUS 13 to show it tied....or PPP with Plus 15...or Fox with Plus 10 or Ras will increase women from 54/46 like he is polling in OH...even though 2008 and 2010...it was 52/48...I mean even RAS is lying with his numbers.  Each one to some degree is just ridiculous.  Ras uses Plus Dem sample in OH as well....and more women....I am sure the ABC networks, Fox, PPP and others oversample women as well.  Plus love to see that 18-30 age breakdown...most polls continue to keep that at 2008 levels even though the enthusiasm is way down and most keep the Black rate at 14 percent like 2008 even thought poll after poll shows Blacks are not as enthused this time.....more likely blacks will return to historical levels of 10-11 percent of the vote.

 

There are so many factors that the pollsters are using from 2008 and even some worse like Ras with his women counts.  If you want to know why Akin always comes out behind in Ras MO Senate polls.....he is polling women in MO at 56/44 over men....think about that?  4 percent more than in 2008 and 2010....Ras will be embarrassed big time in MO...

 

Either way Plus 9 in OH is horrible for Obama....and to be tied....you would have thought by now the pollsters would have adjusted this....but now going two points to the right of 2008 and with lower Dem Registration and Absentees in OH is a joke!

 

Gravis is one of the worse...using Plus 7 Nationally and Plus 9 in OH.....now if you were Obama would you feel good about that?  No OH is clearly up 3-4 for Romney....

 

Gravis, Fox, PPP, ABC, NBC and others will adjust the very last poll out before the election......we all know that....right now they want the drama!

 

As for PPP you are right CAC I imagine they will show in early voting that OBAMA is up in NC by 15 points or in WI by 30 points or Iowa by 20 points...they always release something ridiculous on Saturdays!

Posted by: bluerose75 at October 20, 2012 06:04 AM (HDcKc)

43 At the Corner, Josh Jordan argues that 2008 Ohio was realistically more like a D+5 turnout. http://tinyurl.com/8jl4jlp

Posted by: TD, one of the proud 53% at October 20, 2012 06:06 AM (+uFux)

44 Thanks for leaving me in the old thread, guys.

Assholes

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 20, 2012 06:07 AM (dX4hn)

45 Posted by: bluerose75 at October 20, 2012 10:04 AM (HDcKc) The cars were lined up and parking spaces were few at the senior center here in my little NC berg. Folks seemed excited to get out and vote. Lotsa Romney bumper stickers. Obama? I counted one.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at October 20, 2012 06:08 AM (kc2b9)

46 Early polling in NC is way up.  Democrats lead big time in numbers, BUT remember just because you are registered as a democrat doesn't mean you vote that way.  Eastern NC is mostly registered Dim, they have two Republican congressmen.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 20, 2012 06:10 AM (wR+pz)

47 44 Thanks for leaving me in the old thread, guys. Assholes Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 20, 2012 10:07 AM (dX4hn) Sometimes I feel that way. Then I adopted a system. If I see no new posts in a one minute period, I check for a new thread.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at October 20, 2012 06:10 AM (kc2b9)

48 29 That's very telling...+4 in a swing state poll is pretty significant since by definition these states are close to evenly split for candidates. Also interesting that the PA Mitt +4 poll hasn't been discredited and Ryan campaigns there today.

Posted by: jjshaka at October 20, 2012 06:10 AM (aOSUj)

49 44 Thanks for leaving me in the old thread, guys. Assholes Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 20, 2012 10:07 AM (dX4hn) Dammit, he found us.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 20, 2012 06:10 AM (GEICT)

50 SUCK IT GERG

Posted by: DangerGirl (@deadlyestrogen) at October 20, 2012 06:11 AM (GrtrJ)

51

30...yes Ras is using Plus Dem 5 nationally....so is Gallup...but Ras is sampling more women and youth and that is why you see small movement.

 

The odd thing about Ras is that his own Party Affiliation Polling (his own!) has Republicans up 4 but he is using Dem Plus 5.  I think he is trying to tack historically which surprises me because historical Dem Adv is about 2-3 percent.

 

Either way the oversampling of Dems will be one of the biggest stories of 2012.  It will show a blantant ignorance and acceptance of reality.  From Oct 30-Nov 5th pollsters will be adjusting I guess to make themselves look better.

 

In the case of PPP/NBC/Marist to make themselves look better....GO OUT OF BUSINESS....they are all jokes! 

Posted by: bluerose75 at October 20, 2012 06:11 AM (HDcKc)

52 35 There's no way my state will be D+9 on election day... Posted by: knob (R-OH) I don't think any of them will be... who in Hell can be enthused over an abject failure? The fool can't run on his record- but he can't run away from it either.

Posted by: backhoe at October 20, 2012 06:12 AM (ULH4o)

53 What are the Ras swing states?

Posted by: perdogg at October 20, 2012 06:12 AM (Ttf/I)

54 Well today is the big day.  My first training run where I will run a full 13.1 miles.  3 weeks until my first official half marathon.

So I guess I'll get off my butt and head to the gym.  I have 3 hours of running to do.

Later kids.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 20, 2012 06:12 AM (dX4hn)

55 No bluerose75. Gallup is using R+1.

Posted by: NWConservative at October 20, 2012 06:13 AM (M1gmo)

56 Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 20, 2012 10:12 AM (dX4hn) Go Git Em Dave!!

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at October 20, 2012 06:13 AM (kc2b9)

57 Yeah, Oiho is voting Romney this year.

On to Wicsonsin and Michigna. On the bright side, Obama's a shoo-in for a regular column in the Grauniad

Posted by: boulder hobo at October 20, 2012 06:13 AM (vCyy6)

58 Dave, I think everybody thought you were off doing some cyphering with the new polls ?

Posted by: AmericanDawg at October 20, 2012 06:13 AM (XIsD/)

59 27 I don't see how Obama loses Toronto. You wingers are toast

Posted by: boulder hobo at October 20, 2012 09:54 AM (vCyy6)


Don't get overconfident.
Toronto does not have Hillary Hall printing ballots.

Posted by: jwb7605 at October 20, 2012 06:14 AM (Qxe/p)

60 I live in Gainesville, FL, usually one of the more liberal areas being so close to an open-minded university. 4 years ago this place as crawling with smug Obama supporters. This year the O signs and stickers are quite scarce. On the other hand I see plenty for Romney/Ryan. Not that the Obama supporters aren't here, but they sure are keeping their yaps shut.

Posted by: Hudson21 at October 20, 2012 06:15 AM (uSuzr)

61 Is Rasmussen even polling states 51-57??? Cuz Obama is waaaaay ahead there.

Posted by: NWConservative at October 20, 2012 06:15 AM (M1gmo)

62 37 Until yesterday, I hadn't seen ANY yard signs for president. Lots of local/state stuff, with some CT US Senate. I finally saw ONE Obama sign....on a street that should have been covered in Obama signs. Posted by: Tami A few days ago I saw one- at the foot of spur 99. It got stolen the next day...

Posted by: backhoe at October 20, 2012 06:15 AM (ULH4o)

63 I'm starting to get optimistic about the election. I'm even thinking of removing our Constitution, Bill of Rights and Declaration from the walls of our downstairs bathroom.

Posted by: Justamom in Achin' Akin's district at October 20, 2012 06:16 AM (Sptt8)

64 OT Just saw something on twitter. Romney will accept and then donate pres salary. Didn't say donate to what. Anybody else hear something about this?

Posted by: Honey Badger at October 20, 2012 06:16 AM (vzfrq)

65 52 35 There's no way my state will be D+9 on election day... Posted by: knob (R-OH) I don't think any of them will be... who in Hell can be enthused over an abject failure? The fool can't run on his record- but he can't run away from it either. ____________ My thoughts exactly. The average Dem voter will be voting against Romney rather than for Obama (reflected in and encouraged by Barky & Joey's yearlong smear campaign). We were in a similar position in 2008, but at least we could think about McCain's military service while we held our noses. It didn't end well for us then; it won't end well for them now.

Posted by: Dante at October 20, 2012 06:16 AM (NWLVJ)

66 Nice Honey Badger. That is why I hope Mitt does what he says he will do and strong arms the herd of cats in Congress to actually fix something.

Posted by: NWConservative at October 20, 2012 06:17 AM (M1gmo)

67

43 At the Corner, Josh Jordan argues that 2008 Ohio was realistically more like a D+5 turnout.

http://tinyurl.com/8jl4jlp

 

He's correct. And 2004 is more like R +2 not R +1. I'm not sure how some people come to the conclusion that 25-35% of people have already voted in OH. Isn't the figure that the state put out  400K. I thought that  5.7 Million voted in OH in 2008 and 2004???? something not adding up.

Posted by: RIK at October 20, 2012 06:18 AM (gQxm3)

68 You ever thought that the pollsters were inflating for Romeny in hopes to depress turnout for us? Wouldn't put it past them. Remember, Reagan was down 6 points at the very same period against Carter. Turnout is what matters, not polls.

Posted by: thegreatsatan at October 20, 2012 06:19 AM (q9DYD)

69 Yes Honey Badger, that was reported by USA Today yesterday. The link is on my twitter feed somewhere.

Posted by: TD, one of the proud 53% at October 20, 2012 06:19 AM (+uFux)

70 I desperately hope that PA goes Mitt, but the number of obama signs around my neighborhood is disturbing. And isn't this a key swing area for the PA vote? (suburban Philly, Delco /Montgomery). Please tell me I'm wrong.

Posted by: Dulce at October 20, 2012 06:20 AM (Okd5n)

71 CAC, if you're still reading the comments:
Does the strong likelihood of cheating in (at least) Ohio balance out the Dem + ratings in the polls? I have been telling myself that +7 through + 9 samples are weighted unjustifiably  to the D's, but with the cheating I wonder if it may come to pass?

Posted by: flashbazzbo, s.e. at October 20, 2012 06:20 AM (i0rVe)

72 obama is lying and people are starting to notice and they are also noticing how smug, arrogant, and nasty his is.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 20, 2012 06:20 AM (oSFWF)

73 Not taking the presidential salary for personal use is good optics for Mitt as he doesn't need it.

Posted by: NWConservative at October 20, 2012 06:20 AM (M1gmo)

74 69 Thanks TD

Posted by: Honey Badger at October 20, 2012 06:21 AM (vzfrq)

75 Tagg Trutherism: Son of Trigg. Where's Sully?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 20, 2012 06:21 AM (+tqYo)

76 "obama is lying and people are starting to notice and they are also noticing how smug, arrogant, and nasty his is."


This.

Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at October 20, 2012 06:21 AM (BAnPT)

77 Im not worried about Ohio in the least. The margin between Obama and McCain was 262k votes. That means in theory all Romney has to do is flip 156k voters to our side.

Posted by: Jaydee at October 20, 2012 06:21 AM (E5DLT)

78 319 Hopefully Monday's debate will start off like this: SCHIEFFER: Mr. Romney, with absolutely no experience whatsoever in foreign affairs what makes you think you are qualified to advance American interests internationally? ROMNEY: Well Bob, it's only been three weeks and I've already got the most powerful man in the world scrambling all over the country babbling about condoms and Big Bird so I think I can effectively influence other world leaders. That would be epic, and what's more I can actually see it happening.

Posted by: Nighthawk at October 20, 2012 06:21 AM (hdKfP)

79

48....the Seq Poll is not being discredited it is being looked at with caution.  However, the Seq Poll has one of the best track records in the State of PA.  That is why the dilemna.  They say it leans a little to Repubs well that does not stop PPP from polling all over the planet with its Dems oversamples and funny how that seems to only matter to the right....while any poll that shows a small R is disregarded by the Media, despised by the left and even questioned by the right, which is ridiculous.  Seq has a great track record.  They were the first to pick up the race tightening in PA and now 3 other polls out of PA have the race 2-4 points down for Mitt (except Seq which has Mitt up 4).  But they caught the trend first.  PPP originally had Obama up like 16 and that is down to 5-6.  There is no question PA has tightened greatly....it just depends on if Mitt and Paul want to make the play.

 

I will say this the sleeper race in the Senate will be Smith over Casey in PA.  He is now within 2 with most polls and up 3 in the Seq poll.  He has been under the radar and covered by no one except Mark Levin.  He is totally self financed.....he is using all his own money.  Listen to him talk and Mr. Smith is the very essence of the Tea Party.  I am really surprised how ignored he has been.  Very impressive and humble man.  He will beat Casey....Casey is not taking Obama references out of his speeches and more because the race has closed so dramatically.

 

If Mitt and Paul make a play in PA...I am convinced they could win it.  Seq Poll reasons that Mitt has made up all his ground in the Suburbs of Philadelphia which is a major turn.  This area is usually bedrock Dem.....not this time.  Mr. Smith in his interviews has said in his polling numbers they have seen nice gains in Philadelphia as well.  GO MITT and Mr. Smith!

Posted by: bluerose75 at October 20, 2012 06:22 AM (HDcKc)

80 A poll of Egyptians conducted last month shows that they have increasingly positive views of Iran, believe that both Iran and Egypt should obtain nuclear weapons, and still trust their own military more than any other institution in Egypt. Oh yeah things are just hunky dori in the Middle East under obama?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 20, 2012 06:22 AM (oSFWF)

81 Somebody called and told me that there is a group of young boys just outside of Searchlight and they look like they are lost. I'm going to personally research this .... I just need to find the keys to my ice cream truck. 

Posted by: Harry Reid, creepy old man that lures young boys with ice cream at October 20, 2012 06:22 AM (sd73r)

82 76 "obama is lying and people are starting to notice and they are also noticing how smug, arrogant, and nasty his is." This. Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at October 20, 2012 10:21 AM (BAnPT) Yep, and after two pretty good debates and a comedic drubbing at the Al E Smith dinner. Folks have realized that Mitt isn't really Thurston Howell the third.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at October 20, 2012 06:23 AM (kc2b9)

83 75 Tagg Trutherism: Son of Trigg. Where's Sully? ___________ I don't know about Andi, but my model shows a 52.39% chance.

Posted by: Nate Silver at October 20, 2012 06:23 AM (NWLVJ)

84 You want a piece of me, meatball?  Give it your best shot, anytime, anywhere.

Posted by: Scrappy Ace of Clubs what scraps in Boston at October 20, 2012 06:24 AM (vm7ot)

85

"recognize there is a state south of Michigan, north of Kentucky/West Virginia, west of Pennsylvania and east of Indiana."

 

Ontario?

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus, Geography Inexpert at October 20, 2012 06:25 AM (U+vgB)

86 I saw my first Romney sign yesterday. It was by the side of a road, not in someone's yard. I haven't seen any Obama signs. I've only seen a smattering of bumper stickers, mostly for Obama. I'm in southeastern PA. The contrast between this year and 2008 is amazing. There were signs and bumper stickers everywhere back then. I think most people have their minds made up, but they're keeping it to themselves.

Posted by: rickl at October 20, 2012 06:25 AM (sdi6R)

87 Romney was brilliant at the Al Smith Dinner. His cadence at one point sounded a little like Bob Hope. Come on America. Get rid of SCOAMF and Joe Bidet Binder.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 20, 2012 06:26 AM (+tqYo)

88 The PA Susquehanna poll uses a D+6 turnout and 2008 was D+7 or 8, so that seems reasonable. In their report they say PA leans Romney because of the higher than ave. UE rate at 8.2% and the priority issue of jobs. Their poll was taken before the second debate.

Posted by: TD, one of the proud 53% at October 20, 2012 06:26 AM (+uFux)

89 Wasn't uncle Joe waving binders around the other day? I'm sorry but this campaign from them is getting DUMBER by the hour.

Posted by: NWConservative at October 20, 2012 06:27 AM (M1gmo)

90 Folks have realized that Mitt isn't really Thurston Howell the third. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at October 20, 2012 10:23 AM (kc2b9) _____________ And Obama isn't really The Professor =)

Posted by: Dante at October 20, 2012 06:27 AM (NWLVJ)

91 CAC's finally figured out how to avoid being stomped by Ace: post before the Ewok wakes up.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 20, 2012 06:28 AM (rPA5/)

92 And Obama isn't really The Professor =) Posted by: Dante at October 20, 2012 10:27 AM (NWLVJ) He's just barely Gilligan.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at October 20, 2012 06:28 AM (kc2b9)

93 Posted by: TD, one of the proud 53% at October 20, 2012 10:26 AM (+uFux) Well then it should be higher today then with the debate bounce Romney got.

Posted by: NWConservative at October 20, 2012 06:29 AM (M1gmo)

94 You ever thought that the pollsters were inflating for Romeny in hopes to depress turnout for us? Wouldn't put it past them. Remember, Reagan was down 6 points at the very same period against Carter.
Turnout is what matters, not polls.

If they are using the polls to influence turnout, how do the polls not matter? 

Posted by: no good deed at October 20, 2012 06:29 AM (mjR67)

95 I think most people have their minds made up, but they're keeping it to themselves. Posted by: rickl at October 20, 2012 10:25 AM (sdi6R) BINGO! The "Silent Majority" will have their say on Election Day

Posted by: Nighthawk at October 20, 2012 06:29 AM (hdKfP)

96 Maybe this once we should let the states of Sonora, Coahuila and New Leon vote in this election. Give the northern Mexicans a chance to let us know how they'd like to keep Eric Holder another term as Attorney General.

Posted by: boulder hobo at October 20, 2012 06:29 AM (vCyy6)

97 92 And Obama isn't really The Professor =) Posted by: Dante at October 20, 2012 10:27 AM (NWLVJ) He's just barely Gilligan. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at October 20, 2012 10:28 AM (kc2b9) Ohhhh, someone needs to photoshop that!

Posted by: Dante at October 20, 2012 06:29 AM (NWLVJ)

98 rickl.
My father, in Allentown continues to report that the Obama signage in the Lehigh Valley is a fraction of the 08 pattern.

And I am convinced, after handing out Romney signs here in Baltimore, that the decisions have already been made after the three debates, but people just aren't going public with their choices.

The Conservative Voter concern for their safety, and their property is tangible here. But the ones I talked to have been very enthusiastic about voting.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2012 06:30 AM (cvrhl)

99 Ohhhh, someone needs to photoshop that! Posted by: Dante at October 20, 2012 10:29 AM (NWLVJ) Yep, and put Clintons head on the Skipper as he's smacking the shit out of Gilligan with his hat.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at October 20, 2012 06:31 AM (kc2b9)

100 Scoamf borrows 15M from BofA?

Posted by: Up with people! at October 20, 2012 06:31 AM (vj51i)

101 And Obama isn't really The Professor =)

Oh, I dunno.  I'll bet he couldn't patch a hole in a boat either.

Posted by: pep at October 20, 2012 06:32 AM (6TB1Z)

102 90 Folks have realized that Mitt isn't really Thurston Howell the third. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at October 20, 2012 10:23 AM (kc2b9) _____________ And Obama isn't really The Professor =) Posted by: Dante ...and I'm seeing the Widow MaryAnn... damnation, we've devolved into a sixties sitcom...

Posted by: backhoe at October 20, 2012 06:32 AM (ULH4o)

103 64 OT Just saw something on twitter. Romney will accept and then donate pres salary. Didn't say donate to what. Anybody else hear something about this?

Posted by: Honey Badger at October 20, 2012 10:16 AM (vzfrq)


I was wondering when he would say either this or that he'd take $1 per year if elected.

Posted by: Tami at October 20, 2012 06:32 AM (X6akg)

104 Think  Groups  call  Barry  a  "punkass  cake  boy".  Devastating.

Posted by: Hillbuzz.org at October 20, 2012 06:32 AM (OiC7K)

105 And Obama isn't really The Professor =) Posted by: Dante at October 20, 2012 10:27 AM (NWLVJ) Well maybe obama is the professor. I mean he has a lot of screwie ideas that never work and they were stuck on that island for years

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 20, 2012 06:33 AM (oSFWF)

106

TFG's bounce.

http://tinyurl.com/bnk4b88

Posted by: Bosk at October 20, 2012 06:33 AM (QkFee)

107 Here in the communist stronghold of NYC, my pointy-headed lefty wife (bless her heart), has left Obama-Biden mail go unopened and if opened, almost summarily trashed. Completely anecdotal, and I'm sure she'll vote SCOAMF. But the enthusiasm is just not there. Not even in her voice when she talks to her mom, who is in Janesville, no less! Ha!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 20, 2012 06:33 AM (+tqYo)

108 Entoosiasms .... entoosiams ...

Posted by: Bobby D. at October 20, 2012 06:36 AM (E/DAU)

109 My wife commented on the utter sparseness of Obama signs in Boulder yesterday. She said she saw 4 Romney/Ryan signs on her way home from school. I wonder if that means something. In the f'ng People's Republic of Boulder?? Yes it means something!! That's a town whose city council voted to recruit homeless people because they felt it wasn't economically diverse (My god I hate that word.) enough. Boulder: 28 square miles surrounded by reality.

Posted by: Bad Sister Zoot at October 20, 2012 06:36 AM (lxs3Z)

110 I've got one more pitch debate coming.  I'll crush this one, relax.  The Mudville Nine  Democratic Party will carry me around on their shoulders in jubilation.

Posted by: Barry "Casey" Obama at October 20, 2012 06:37 AM (BAS5M)

111 Lol. Romney's tied in Ohio. Bad news for Romney! Obviously! Lolololol. Listen to me cuz I'm a polester! I'm a regular conneisuer of poles, you might say. It's goin to be D+15 on Election Day boys.

Posted by: Romney Loses Inner City Detroit at October 20, 2012 06:38 AM (HtYg5)

112

Still waiting for October surprise from Chicago.  Or was the first debate the surprise?

Posted by: good solid F- at October 20, 2012 06:38 AM (x9s9/)

113 105 And Obama isn't really The Professor =) Posted by: Dante at October 20, 2012 10:27 AM (NWLVJ) Well maybe obama is the professor. I mean he has a lot of screwie ideas that never work and they were stuck on that island for years _________________ At least they were only stranded for three years. We've already been trapped for four, and if swing-state fraud makes it eight I think I'd rather be on the island.

Posted by: Dante at October 20, 2012 06:39 AM (NWLVJ)

114 That's a town whose city council voted to recruit homeless people because they felt it wasn't economically diverse

Tell me this is a joke ...

Posted by: Waterhouse at October 20, 2012 06:40 AM (E/DAU)

115 107 Here in the communist stronghold of NYC, my pointy-headed lefty wife (bless her heart), has left Obama-Biden mail go unopened and if opened, almost summarily trashed.

Completely anecdotal, and I'm sure she'll vote SCOAMF. But the enthusiasm is just not there. Not even in her voice when she talks to her mom, who is in Janesville, no less!

Ha!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 20, 2012 10:33 AM (+tqYo)

 

 I heard that !!

Posted by: Mrs. J J Sefton at October 20, 2012 06:41 AM (gQxm3)

116 I really have no idea who this race is even close.  No idea at all.  People cannot be this stupid.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 20, 2012 06:41 AM (gA69l)

117 "obama is lying and people are starting to notice and they are also noticing how smug, arrogant, and nasty he is."This.
 I never saw GWB get all high dungeon when the left/obama were saying Bush LIed and people died. But when Mitt points out the FACT that he didn't call bengazzi A terror Attack and still hasn't How insulted he was Oh my Tangled web and all

Posted by: vizzy at October 20, 2012 06:41 AM (GmfkE)

118 Tell me this is a joke ...

Posted by: Waterhouse at October 20, 2012 10:40 AM (E/DAU)


That was a factually correct observation.
Those of us surrounding the 28 square miles (reality -- I live in Louisville), however, generally regard it as a joke.

Posted by: jwb7605 at October 20, 2012 06:42 AM (Qxe/p)

119 114 Tell me this is a joke ... Posted by: Waterhouse at October 20, 2012 10:40 AM (E/DAU) That's what I've been saying every damn day for the last 4 fucking years.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 20, 2012 06:42 AM (+tqYo)

120 The leftys are going with Nate Silver and seem to be on an eternal boner.

Posted by: Redd at October 20, 2012 06:43 AM (RoEtU)

121 115 Posted by: Mrs. J J Sefton at October 20, 2012 10:41 AM (gQxm3) Oh my G-d! Honey! You're a moron blogger?!!!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 20, 2012 06:44 AM (+tqYo)

122

The Romney/salary thing is an old article from 2007 that is being recirculated.  He hasn't talked about it this time because it plays into Obama's meme that he is rich and out of touch.

 

I'm still pounding the table for PA.  Tom Smith has run an unbelievably great campaign.  Gov. Corbett isn't real popular right now and has laid low, but his organization is out there working for Romney.  What I'm seeing and hearing in Bucks County is vastly different from 2008.  I'm seeing not only tons of Romney signs, but lots of homemade signs that we did not see in 2008. 

 

There's a huge billboard on I-95 going into Philly from Bucks that says "Obama Supports Abortion And Gay Marriage...Do You?"    I'm hearing Catholics are energized because of Paul Ryan and are going to surprise people.  There is a stealth GOP campaign going on in the Jewish community.

 

I think the Romney camp must know that PA is winnable.  They don't want to wake the sleeping giant and get the Philly Dem machine going into overdrive.     

Posted by: rockmom at October 20, 2012 06:44 AM (qe2/V)

123 116 I really have no idea who this race is even close. No idea at all. People cannot be this stupid.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 20, 2012 10:41 AM (gA69l)


To paraphrase one of my absolute favorite cartoon characters:
Brain:  "Some people have more evolving to do than others".

Posted by: jwb7605 at October 20, 2012 06:46 AM (Qxe/p)

124 Still waiting for October surprise from Chicago. Or was the first debate the surprise? Posted by: good solid F- at October 20, 2012 10:38 AM

Choom Boy's toe-suckers are waiting for it, too. Their eyes shine like those of little kids waiting to see what Santy has brought them.

The latest letters-to-the-editor in the local paper are spreading the "ooooh! Teh Rmoney is an eeeeeevil Mormon, and it's a cult!!11!!" bullshit. I have to think there is some kind of direction from the campaign for these unhinged loons. The local yuks aren't smart enough to come up with this shit on their own.

And, yeah, I also think Choom Boy will try to drop a big one Monday. Gloria Allred will certainly fire off a shot or two as well, since it's the only way anyone pays attention to her.

Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at October 20, 2012 06:47 AM (ZgX/g)

125 America in 2008 had watched too many Morgan Freeman and Will Smith films.

Now we've experienced the fact that a black man has no hotline to god or the fates and can exhibit bad traits, bad judgment and be so stupid yet be so arrogant as to defy description.

That he's appeared anti-American and pro-Muslim didn't help.

It's a shame he was the first as he was so unqualified to be and so many other magnificently and factually qualified black candidates existed (and still exist).

I blame the treasonous Media and their liberal partisanship.

They've succeeded in destroying one institution needed for a free country and almost succeeded in letting an ego maniac destroy another.

Vote Republican; Prove the Media Wrong.

Posted by: Jcw46 at October 20, 2012 06:47 AM (Vh0f5)

126

I predict MSNBC suddenly goes off the air about 10 pm election night after Maddow/Matthews/O'Donnell meltdowns...

Posted by: good solid F- at October 20, 2012 06:47 AM (x9s9/)

127

People cannot be this stupid.

----

Wanna Bet?

 

Posted by: Govenor Jerry Brown at October 20, 2012 06:47 AM (kzejo)

128 http://tinyurl.com/76ru558 Clint Eastwood is Romney & the dufus is Choomey

Posted by: Evilpens at October 20, 2012 06:48 AM (ck76k)

129 Team SCOAMF has got nothing. The October surprise is that there is none. Wait. Belay that. There IS, in fact, an October surprise. It's Mitt Romney and the American people actually like what they see. Surprise!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 20, 2012 06:49 AM (+tqYo)

130 WHY LIBERALS SHOULD VOTE FOR ROMNEY:

Liberals will never believe that their message was wrong, only that they had the wrong messenger.

Think about this. If Obama wins he is inheriting an economy about to go over the fiscal cliff. The Middle East is on fire. World War III could easily start on his watch. The credit card is maxed out. He has a hostile Congress. There is every indication that his next 4 years will be difficult if not a complete disaster.

And if Obama goes down, he will take Liberalism and Keynesian Economics with him. Hillary will have NO CHANCE in 2016.

So Liberals, if you truly believe Romney will fail, VOTE FOR HIM! Leave him with this mess. After 4 years of complete disaster Hillary will easily win in 2016 and you will take the House and Senate too.

Liberals, sacrifice the Obama Presidency to save your message!

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at October 20, 2012 06:50 AM (hlUJY)

131

My SIL is a diehard Obamabot in the Boston suburbs.  I've been watching her increasing panic on Facebook talking to Rockdad.  After the first debate she was apoplectic. 

 

Rockdad also is throwing all his Obama mail in the trash.  I know he'll probably vote for him but that's it.  In 2008 he volunteered and went door to door for Obama. 

 

Our son will be voting for the first time in Nashville where he is in college.  ( I tried to get him to change to PA where his vote will count more, but bless his heart, he wanted to be able to vote in person!)  He's happily voting Romney/Ryan and even changed his registration from Independent to Republican when he got back to school this fall.  The Nashville Tennessean endorsed Romney this week, a huge deal there because it's a VERY liberal paper in a state capital with a bunch of universities and a cosmopolitan readership.     

Posted by: rockmom at October 20, 2012 06:50 AM (qe2/V)

132 Well maybe obama is the professor. I mean he has a lot of screwie ideas that never work and they were stuck on that island for years
--

Obama is the actor who once poorly played a professor, one of many such teleprompted roles.

"Hi! I'm Troy McClure! You might remember me from such self-help videos as 'Smoke Yourself Thin' and 'Get Confident, Stupid!'

“Let us all bask in television's warm glowing warming glow.” /homer simpson

Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at October 20, 2012 06:50 AM (BAnPT)

133 >>>125 America in 2008 had watched too many Morgan Freeman and Will Smith films. If Obama single handedly stopped an alien invasion by hijacking a space ship and blowing up the mother ship, I might reconsider my vote. I'm. if anything, open minded...

Posted by: Redd at October 20, 2012 06:50 AM (RoEtU)

134 60 I live in Gainesville, FL, usually one of the more liberal areas being so close to an open-minded university. 4 years ago this place as crawling with smug Obama supporters. This year the O signs and stickers are quite scarce. On the other hand I see plenty for Romney/Ryan. Not that the Obama supporters aren't here, but they sure are keeping their yaps shut. Posted by: Hudson21 at October 20, 2012 10:15 AM (uSuzr) Have you seen the Empty Chair stuff set up on Waldo Rd coming in from the north? Great stuff.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 20, 2012 06:51 AM (n5+zr)

135 Bill Mitchell at October 20, 2012 10:50 AM (hlUJY)

I like your thinking.

Posted by: Jcw46 at October 20, 2012 06:52 AM (Vh0f5)

136 Still waiting for October surprise from Chicago. Or was the first debate the surprise? I wonder if the Democrat machinery in place around the country feels burned by that debate. "Why should we use up our ammo?", they could be forgiven for thinking.

Posted by: t-bird at October 20, 2012 06:52 AM (FcR7P)

137 Posted by: rockmom at October 20, 2012 10:50 AM (qe2/V) I'm assuming rockdad is your husband? My wife voted for Obama in 2008 and now is firmly of the belief that he is a SCOAMF.

Posted by: NWConservative at October 20, 2012 06:53 AM (M1gmo)

138 Gravis poll?  Never heard of it.  Just exactly how many polling organizations are there?

Posted by: Lady in Black, channeling Charlie Gibson at October 20, 2012 06:53 AM (lTVJy)

139 Lady in Black, channeling Charlie Gibson

Turn over a rock . . .

Posted by: Jcw46 at October 20, 2012 06:54 AM (Vh0f5)

140 In the minds of barry & associates, there is no such thing as a terrorist attack. They've been dropping turtle pellets for 4 years, going for this mindshift. And, there is the crème de la crème of the push for this mindset (aka: cover your @$$ strategy): The House leaders said it appears the administration has reverted to a past policy of treating terrorism as a criminal matter “rather than also prioritizing the gathering of intelligence to prevent future attacks.” http://freebeacon.com/incommunicado/

Posted by: 17 days at October 20, 2012 06:54 AM (LpQbZ)

141 CAC baby!
Email me if you want help on election night with ME-2. Im located at ground zero here and know the numbers like a mofo.

hanish@roadrunner.com

Posted by: DeusExMachina at October 20, 2012 06:55 AM (6RTwM)

142 I predict MSNBC suddenly goes off the air about10 pm election night after Maddow/Matthews/O'Donnell meltdowns... Posted by: good solid F- at October 20, 2012 10:47 AM (x9s9/) ____________ Hopefully not! I want to see them spin Obama's possible paths to victory after PA or OH get called early for RR. "Well, RCP still has lists Texas as only "likely Romney," and Nate Silver shows a 65.44% chance of an Obama victory."

Posted by: Dante at October 20, 2012 06:56 AM (NWLVJ)

143 I really have no idea who this race is even close. No idea at all. People cannot be this stupid. Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 20, 2012 10:41 AM (gA69l) I often wonder the same, until I am reminded with Jimmy Kimmel "people on the street" videos. Yes, they can be this stupid, and more so.

Posted by: 17 days at October 20, 2012 06:56 AM (LpQbZ)

144

 

Over/Under on Obama  going all Col. Nathan R. Jessup  in the foreign policy debate?

 

"I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom ..."

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 20, 2012 06:56 AM (BAS5M)

145 DOWN GOES CHOOMER.... DOWN GOES CHOOMER.... DOWN GOES CHOOMER

Posted by: Zombie Howard Cosell at October 20, 2012 06:56 AM (Jls4P)

146 Not a good idea to put your email out there.

Barn. Horse. Door.

Posted by: Jcw46 at October 20, 2012 06:56 AM (Vh0f5)

147

#116 The only reasons this election is close, are the same reasons Obama won in 2008:  He's black, and George W. Bush.

 

Voters are legit concerned about giving the reins of power back to the GOP.  Bush and the Tom DeLay crowd almost killed the Republican brand for a generation.  People really do believe that Bush ran the economy into the ditch and also fucked up in Iraq.  It's miraculous that Romney/Ryan have essentially revived the GOP in one election cycle.  But there is a lot of residual damage from Bush. 

 

I think Team Obama really blew this election.  They picked the wrong line of attack against Romney and they failed to give their own people much of a reason to vote FOR them except to keep the GIGANTIC HORROR REPUBLICAN away from the White House. 

Posted by: rockmom at October 20, 2012 06:56 AM (qe2/V)

148 No way, Meatball. No way. You're not getting any more outfits doing Ohio polls. And if you do, for some ungodly reason, they will all be weighted D+15. Like God intended.

Posted by: wte9 at October 20, 2012 06:56 AM (ZL7LA)

149 "Yeah I got bin Laden........and just in time. Intelligence indicated that he was attempting to disappear for good by changing his name to Joseph Kony."

Posted by: Rejected Obama Joke @ Alfred E. Smith Dinner at October 20, 2012 06:56 AM (AzwZn)

150 122 What I'm seeing and hearing in Bucks County is vastly different from 2008. I'm seeing not only tons of Romney signs, but lots of homemade signs that we did not see in 2008. That's good to hear, but you must live in a different part of Bucks County than I do. See my #86.

Posted by: rickl at October 20, 2012 06:56 AM (sdi6R)

151 There is significant risk that sometime in the next three weeks Hugh Hewitt will ejaculate himself to death. Probably not the worst way to punch out.

Posted by: eman at October 20, 2012 06:57 AM (+XD7n)

152 Posted by: DeusExMachina at October 20, 2012 10:55 AM (6RTwM)

Is that the district that may go for Romney, and steal an EV from Obama?

If so, please to give us lots of details!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2012 06:57 AM (2b4yb)

153

I don't care which candidate is Gilligan or the Professor.

I just NEED to know who is Ginger and Mary Ann

i'll be waiting in my bunk

 

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at October 20, 2012 06:57 AM (kzejo)

154

To win PA:

Romney needs to win the T by Bush04 margins.

He will.

Romney needs to win MetroPittsburgh outright, McCain lost it barely by 29,000 votes while losing statewide by 10 points.

He will.

 

Here is the problem:

Montgomery County

Philadelphia

Delaware County

Bucks County

Chester County, which was red but went blue for Obama.

Flip Chester back to Bush04, Romney will.

Flip BUCKS county-- ?

Hold Obama down in Delaware and Montgomery Counties to <10 pts in the former and <8pts in the latter. --??

Hold Obama to 450,000 vote margin or less in Philadelphia --??

SEPA is what matters in Pennsylvania. Not Scranton, not Erie, not Pittsburgh, not State College. SEPA.

Posted by: CAC at October 20, 2012 06:59 AM (eFU14)

155 They've already put in place an emergency counter; they've cut exit polling to only 30 states. Many of which will go Obama and will go early.

They've been thinking of how to influence everything up to the final count. And if the final count is very close, they'll try to stir sh!t up over that. (of course they will have lots of help in that case.)

First order of business for the country when RnR ascends to the White House; a complete and thorough cleanup of Media access to government and some rules that will be enforced.

That's almost as important as rescinding Obama's EOs.

Posted by: Jcw46 at October 20, 2012 06:59 AM (Vh0f5)

156 151 There is significant risk that sometime in the next three weeks Hugh Hewitt will ejaculate himself to death.

Probably not the worst way to punch out.   ---   but possibly the stickiest since the great Boston Molasses flood

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at October 20, 2012 07:00 AM (kzejo)

157 I just NEED to know who is Ginger and Mary Ann

Dennis Kucinich's wife = Ginger
Kristi Noem = Mary Ann

Posted by: Waterhouse at October 20, 2012 07:00 AM (E/DAU)

158 Have there been any stories of folks voting for MexCaine in 2008 and then going full Barry in 2012? I have not heard one, not one.

Posted by: eman at October 20, 2012 07:00 AM (+XD7n)

159

I have a close friend who works as a head nurse in a mental health outpatient facility.  Percentage of clientele who are Obamabots?

 

Absofuckinglutely 100%.

Posted by: sherlock at October 20, 2012 07:01 AM (f29LO)

160 #137 Yeah, that's my hub.  He was very, very close to switching to Romney before the DNC convention.  We went up to Boston in August and he volunteered to me during the trip that he did not think Obama deserved another term.  I think he would vote for Romney, except he thinks Romney is kinda slimy and a shape-shifter.  He liked him as Governor of Mass. but worries that he has pandered to the right so much in this election.  He liked Obama over Hillary in 2008 because he likes his candidates in bold colors, being unabashedly liberal or conservative. 

Posted by: rockmom at October 20, 2012 07:01 AM (qe2/V)

161

Toomey barely won in 2010 by holding Sestak's margins down in Montgomery and Delaware. Emphasis on that- barely.  Those counties are critical and are the source of the R's problem in Pennsylvania. Both used to be reliably Republican but that changed dramatically in the 1990s.

Posted by: CAC at October 20, 2012 07:01 AM (eFU14)

162 hanish@roadrunner.com -------- 146 Not a good idea to put your email out there. Barn. Horse. Door. Signing up for multiple free gay pron sites, Dem volunteer pages and the ASPCA using that addy? Soooo not something the Horde would do.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 20, 2012 07:01 AM (n5+zr)

163 CAC what is SEPA?

Posted by: TD, one of the proud 53% at October 20, 2012 07:02 AM (+uFux)

164 154 SEPA is what matters in Pennsylvania. Not Scranton, not Erie, not Pittsburgh, not State College. SEPA. It's kinda cool to be at Ground Zero in this election. On the other hand, if a civil war breaks out, I'll be on the front lines, which won't be so much fun.

Posted by: rickl at October 20, 2012 07:02 AM (sdi6R)

165 The interesting thing about PA this year is that while the voter ID laaw was delayed, the polling places CAN ASK for ID as if the law was in effect. That, plus a purging of the rolls by Corbett et al has estimates of Philly voting down by 250,000 this year. If Allegheny County and Western PA goes for R strongly, I think this is going to be razor thin one way or the other.

Posted by: Interested Party at October 20, 2012 07:02 AM (RE+1w)

166 Kristi Noem = Mary Ann

Posted by: Waterhouse at October 20, 2012 11:00 AM (E/DAU)



I have to be honest, Kristi Noem is almost hawt enough to make me want to give up the glory hole.

Posted by: Gregg at October 20, 2012 07:02 AM (/YJYi)

167 I often wonder the same, until I am reminded with Jimmy Kimmel "people on the street" videos. Yes, they can be this stupid, and more so. Posted by: 17 days at October 20, 2012 10:56 AM (LpQbZ) _________________ Fortunately, stupid is a double-edged sword. I bet these people couldn't tell you when election day is, or where they have to go to vote, or if they are even registered. But I'm sure it will be okay, Obama's gonna send them a text or FB message or something reminding them to vote if they're not too hung over, or late to class, or watching season [X] of [insert crappy TV show] on Netflix that day.

Posted by: Dante at October 20, 2012 07:02 AM (NWLVJ)

168

If Obama single handedly stopped an alien invasion by hijacking a space ship and blowing up the mother ship, I might reconsider my vote. I'm. if anything, open minded...

---

C'mon dude, even i needed a Jew so it wouldn't seem ridiculously implausible.

 

Posted by: Cpt. Steve Hiller at October 20, 2012 07:03 AM (kzejo)

169 SEPA = Southeastern Pennsylvania. Philly and its suburbs, but mostly the suburbs. This area went heavily for O in 2008.

Posted by: rickl at October 20, 2012 07:03 AM (sdi6R)

170 but possibly the stickiest since the great Boston Molasses flood Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at October 20, 2012 11:00 AM (kzejo) They say on a hot Summer day you can still smell the molasses residue from the flood. Lord, I hope there isn't a Hewitt parallel.

Posted by: eman at October 20, 2012 07:03 AM (+XD7n)

171 SEPA = An area that makes Delawareans appear to be smart.

Posted by: Blue Hen at October 20, 2012 07:04 AM (UW6NX)

172 Ah, the Philly suburbs. I read that there was a stealth campaign in the Jewish community there for Romney. True?

Posted by: TD, one of the proud 53% at October 20, 2012 07:05 AM (+uFux)

173

138 - Was your question (1) "How many conscientious researchers are there?" or (2) "How many self-promoters can get paid or quoted by someone in the media?"

Answers:  (1) A few.  (2) A lot, as long as they're glib (rhymes with lib.)

 

 

Posted by: Research Vet at October 20, 2012 07:05 AM (khZbv)

174 I live in Pittsburgh. The Ryan visit was a test of strength. The goal was to see how much of a margin R can get in Western PA. My thinking is that is is going to be large.

Posted by: Interested Party at October 20, 2012 07:05 AM (RE+1w)

175 I'm just north and west. I know the feeling.

Course we can throw up barriers of junk cars and tires on most of the interstates that'll stop most city folks.

too many children of the corn type movies have made city slickers afeared of the fields.

Posted by: Jcw46 at October 20, 2012 07:05 AM (Vh0f5)

176 "open minded" requires the exercise of discernment aka discriminating value judgements to be of any "virtue" ...

Otherwise, open minded risks resembling a spectrum, from a clueless sponge through malleable chaos through a hole in the brain bucket.

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 20, 2012 07:05 AM (BAnPT)

177 Posted by: CAC at October 20, 2012 11:01 AM (eFU14)

What's interesting is that the NJ side of the river is not so fickle.

What is the dynamic in Eastern PA?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2012 07:06 AM (2b4yb)

178 And Joe Biden is the Skipper? Who is Ginger?

Posted by: Interested Party at October 20, 2012 07:06 AM (RE+1w)

179 147 Posted by: rockmom at October 20, 2012 10:56 AM (qe2/V) Whatever W and DeLay did, it absolutely pales in comparison to the utter destruction of our economy, foreign standing and way of life. It's the Tea Party, in reaction in part to a blind and/or willfully negligent Republican establishment that has and is reviving the GOP. Is Mitt the guy I wanted? No. But he has become in my mind an outstanding candidate and I think if Paul Ryan has influence with him and we can get rid and more and more dead weight and RINO's, we have a chance - a chance - at salvaging the nation. It will take at least 20 years, but there is no choice.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 20, 2012 07:07 AM (+tqYo)

180 My pet out-of-state race is the Georgia 2nd. Just checked in on the campaign site of the Republican, John House (my old commanding officer) and I see that he's accusing his opponent, 20-year Democrat Rep. Sanford Bishop, of falsely claiming to be a veteran. Bishop did some ROTC in law school, which doesn't qualify him per the UCMJ sections that House cites on his website. Still no polls that I can find, but I'm hopeful. Attempt at link in name.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 20, 2012 07:07 AM (HethX)

181 First order of business for the country when RnR ascends to the White House; a complete and thorough cleanup of Media access to government and some rules that will be enforced. _____________ Pro tip for RR: Bloggers are your friends.

Posted by: Dante at October 20, 2012 07:07 AM (NWLVJ)

182

New Gravis Marketing poll on RCP shows Ohio tied 47-47, with D+9 sample (41 D / 32 R / 27 I)...

So, a D+5 sample should put R/R up as much as 8 (subtract 4 from O, add 4 to RR), certainly up at least 4.

Posted by: good solid F- at October 20, 2012 07:07 AM (x9s9/)

183 All of you will be voting for me ...ummmm... cause of my masterful handling of...errrrrrr.... the economy..... and my investment in uhhhh..... solar companies..... I'm so GHETTOFABULOUS!!! My next TV spot will be on MTV Cribs....

Honey Boo Boo... I love your endorsement...

Posted by: Choomer in Chief at October 20, 2012 07:07 AM (Jls4P)

184 The Goddess Irony says PA may be the only State Ebola gets.

Posted by: eman at October 20, 2012 07:08 AM (+XD7n)

185 Speaking of signs: Family was vacationing last week in Washington State. When we hit the Olympic Peninsula, just at the point it was getting really scenic, we were all looking at this beautiful lake, surrounded by neat cottages, and there, about 50 ft. from shore, was a giant R/R sign floating on a pontoon. We almost went back and snapped a picture, but couldn't budget the time. I was amazed that state is so deep blue based on the rural signage. Then we finished the trip in Seattle, and it became achingly obvious why.

Posted by: Bad Sister Zoot at October 20, 2012 07:08 AM (lxs3Z)

186 OT Just saw something on twitter. Romney will accept and then donate pres salary. Didn't say donate to what. Anybody else hear something about this?

-----------

That is so weird.  Yesterday, this thought just popped into my head out of nowhere:  Romney will donate his pres salary if he's elected.  Move over, Kreskin.

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 20, 2012 07:08 AM (lTVJy)

187 179 Meant to say pales in comparison to the last 4 years. Too sick to think straight.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 20, 2012 07:08 AM (+tqYo)

188

CAC, you are 100% right on PA.  The problem in Bucks has been liberals moving here from New York and New Jersey.  That's why it flipped to Kerry in 2004 and Obama in 2008.  But the recession stopped all of that and hit this area hard.  The pharmaceuticals and hospitals are major employers here and have shed thousands of employees.  My former employer once had 17,000 employees and is now down to 2500 and in bankruptcy.  Foreclosures are still happening.  Home values have plummeted and not recovered.  Small businesses have closed or are struggling.  The empty stores in the towns around here and even in the malls are daily reminders that the economy is not improving.

 

I don't know a ton of people here, because I moved here in 2004, but I can tell you that I personally know 10 voters who are switching from Obama to Romney.  Many are Republicans, but here the Republicans are moderate, sort of the old-fashioned country-club Republicans.  And they LOVE Mitt Romney.

 

Posted by: rockmom at October 20, 2012 07:08 AM (qe2/V)

189 Posted by: TD, one of the proud 53% at October 20, 2012 11:05 AM (+uFux)

I have some relatives from Philly, and they definitely run counter to the meme of the smart Jew.

My dad and I joked about getting genetic testing just to make sure that they were really related.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2012 07:08 AM (2b4yb)

190 178 And Joe Biden is the Skipper? Who is Ginger? Posted by: Interested Party at October 20, 2012 11:06 AM (RE+1w) Candy Crowley... in drag. Wait, that would be Divine from "Pink Flamingoes."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 20, 2012 07:09 AM (+tqYo)

191 I imagine that Greg is gonna have a chin-full of Ace's ball pudding after all this is over. 

And I also imagine that Ace won't be allowed within 500 feet of Rubio for the next few years....

Posted by: Uncle Mikey at October 20, 2012 07:09 AM (8qoXL)

192 what about Hugh H. for press secretary?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at October 20, 2012 07:09 AM (kzejo)

193 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 20, 2012 11:08 AM (+tqYo)

Flu?

If so, go to Taim and get the spicy sauce on a falafel. That will cure you.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2012 07:09 AM (2b4yb)

194 >>>If Obama single handedly stopped an alien invasion by hijacking a space ship and blowing up the mother ship, I might reconsider my vote. I'm. if anything, open minded...

No way, pal.  Jeff Goldblum would ruin the ticket.

Posted by: Fritz at October 20, 2012 07:10 AM (vm7ot)

195 Late to this thread. So here is what I am supposed to believe about Ohio. Gov -R Lt. Gov -R US Senate 1R / 1D D in big fight to stay US House 13/18 currently R (loses two seats but majority of the 16 will be R) Speaker of the House is from Ohio - R State Senate - 23/33 R 66+% State House - 59/99 R 60+% But election turnout will be D+9. Right!

Posted by: RKinRoanoke at October 20, 2012 07:10 AM (pxur/)

196 Double CAC Rainbow Bounce Poll Thread!!! What Does It Mean?!?!?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2012 07:10 AM (jUytm)

197 187That is so weird. Yesterday, this thought just popped into my head out of nowhere: Romney will donate his pres salary if he's elected. Move over, Kreskin. Love the Kreskin reference. Late hasn't been the same. But we show our age. Like fine wine, of course.

Posted by: RKinRoanoke at October 20, 2012 07:12 AM (pxur/)

198 Can you imagine the lefts reaction if we put out a poll with an R +9 sample?

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at October 20, 2012 07:12 AM (hlUJY)

199 No way, pal. Jeff Goldblum would ruin the ticket. Posted by: Fritz at October 20, 2012 11:10 AM (vm7ot) Plus, he's dead.

Posted by: eman at October 20, 2012 07:12 AM (+XD7n)

200 188 On the nose--forgot that one. Big Pharma lives in SE PA. As one who works with them, I know they have been slammed by O on multiple fronts, and they absolutely hate OCare. It's rare to find a drug rep who supports O. So hatred of O Care dominates the Philly suburbs, and hatred of O's energy policy dominates the West. Hatred of O in general dominates the T. What's O left with? Philly and Scranton? This is getting interesting.

Posted by: Interested Party at October 20, 2012 07:12 AM (RE+1w)

201 Rock mom is pretty right on re: Bucks' demos Here in Chester County tho the moneyed generally work for pharmas and banks/financials -- both are supported by the Dems and thats what worries me. Lots of newish Catholics deciding to get smart after 08 (and, sadly, still despite our local parish messaging) should help R/R here tho

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 20, 2012 07:13 AM (J6kXj)

202 189 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2012 11:08 AM (2b4yb) Sadly, they are stuck in a time warp. I would get into heated arguments with my late mom about Social Security and Medicare. This was a woman who survived Hitler and eventually came here and earned a doctorate in English lit. Highly intelligent - HATED FDR - but could not for the life of her wrap her head around the fact that the word "entitlement" isn't what she thought it meant. Oh well. Miss you mom.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 20, 2012 07:13 AM (+tqYo)

203 199 No way, pal. Jeff Goldblum would ruin the ticket. Posted by: Fritz at October 20, 2012 11:10 AM (vm7ot) Plus, he's dead. Wait, what???

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 20, 2012 07:13 AM (n5+zr)

204 RKinRoanoke at October 20, 2012 11:10 AM (pxur/)

yeah, I've been puzzled about that long before the numbers started changing.

Where as in '08 lots of Obama signs (north of philly by 80 and east of H'burg by 30).

This year; NADA. ZIP. ZERO. ZILCH. GOOSE EGG.

I'm hopeful but tense.

Posted by: Jcw46 at October 20, 2012 07:13 AM (Vh0f5)

205 R&R in Daytona last night looks like the campaign of the WINNER - http://bit.ly/VmdqXJ

[video with fireworks on left pane]

GO MITT GO! 

Posted by: Steven W. at October 20, 2012 07:13 AM (tC0ou)

206 199 Goldblum's not dead. Just his career.

Posted by: RKinRoanoke at October 20, 2012 07:13 AM (pxur/)

207

#172 Yes, it is true.  There have been some quiet events with Romney surrogates like Norm Coleman and Ari Fleischer at some synagogues in the suburbs.  There are calling programs specifically going to Jewish voters.  The Republican Jewish Coalition is running one of the only pro-Romney TV ads I've seen, and it's a really good one that features Jewish voters who voted for Obama in 2008 but won't this time.   They are sending out mailers featurning local Jews who are supporting Romney.

 

In July or August, OFA did an event at a synagogue in Elkins Park and brought in Debbie Wasserman-Schultz.  She was booed and roundly attacked over Obama's policy toward Israel. 

 

The local suburban newspapers and blogs are reporting on these things, but otherwise nobody is paying much attention. 

Posted by: rockmom at October 20, 2012 07:14 AM (qe2/V)

208 ace will soon stomp on CAC's thread. Ask not for whom the boot stomps, it stomps for thee.

Posted by: eman at October 20, 2012 07:14 AM (+XD7n)

209 That Gravis poll is so ludicrous it would make Zogby blush. I actually believe they're literally making up these numbers. They say they polled 1,943 likely voters nationwide. They don't even break down how many of them are from Ohio. But think about it. If less than 2,000 likely voters were included in a nationwide poll how many could have been from Ohio? Ten? Twenty? It's absurd. But let's go ahead and assume that maybe they made a mistake and they really meant to say that they polled around 1,950 likely voters in Ohio. The poll still is bunk. The D+9 is the most glaring flaw. Obviously in OH the partisan split is not going to be more Democratic this year than it was last time around. Even Chris Matthews could figure that one out. Geez. They also grossly undersampled the age 30-49 demographic (which overall will break for Romney) and they grossly oversampled the over 65 demographic (Mediscare, anyone?). Total nonsense. That aside, there's still plenty of work to be done in OH. It is a heavily unionized state and the black demographic there is very militant. There also are a lot of half-senile Democrats there who still think they're voting for Truman and JFK. It's crucial that Romney wins OH. Conservatives there need to step up to the plate and not strike out.

Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at October 20, 2012 07:14 AM (r2PLg)

210 West and Merck love Barry, Interested Party O-Care has helped pharma, not hurt them. Chesco also has a shit-ton of lawyers

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 20, 2012 07:14 AM (J6kXj)

211 Wait, what??? Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 20, 2012 11:13 AM (n5+zr) Check your Moron lore guidebook.

Posted by: eman at October 20, 2012 07:15 AM (+XD7n)

212 180 Lincoln I live in the district you're talking about. Not a single ad on local tv that I'm aware of. This district is HEAVY with uh entitlement voters. Bishop prolly wins easily. I already voted for House but it won't matter.

Posted by: wierd flunky at October 20, 2012 07:15 AM (tlhtD)

213

; margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;" class="MsoNormal">24Obama just didn't want to start his comeback too early and lose steam before the election. He's got this third debate on lock.

Posted by: Liberal

; margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;" class="MsoNormal">Obama's going to wish he slept through it.  Maybe he will.  He's certainly not going to get any sleep before it.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at October 20, 2012 07:15 AM (Rrc6j)

214 Gas up here has dropped in the last two weeks from $3.85 to $3.70. Has OPEC increased output to help Obama get reelected?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2012 07:16 AM (jUytm)

215 Have you seen any polls? I know it's a super-longshot, but apparently Bishop only won by 3% in 2010.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 20, 2012 07:16 AM (HethX)

216 193 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2012 11:09 AM (2b4yb) Hey, brother. At this stage my nose is sealed shut with "Alien" phlegm and I've still got the jitters from that damned Nyquil. Maybe the wife can do a run for me. How about a meet-up for Election Night?!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 20, 2012 07:16 AM (+tqYo)

217 211 Wait, what??? Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 20, 2012 11:13 AM (n5+zr) Check your Moron lore guidebook. Posted by: eman at October 20, 2012 11:15 AM (+XD7n) Dammit. Got caught. *hangs head in shame*

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 20, 2012 07:17 AM (n5+zr)

218 Oh. I just remembered:
Valerie Jarrett should be charged with TREASON.

Posted by: Jcw46 at October 20, 2012 07:17 AM (Vh0f5)

219 My guess is Barry gets Philly, Pittsburgh, Chesco, Montco, Delco Bucks could go either was Then it's up to the rest going huge for R/R to overcome that I do think possible! ESP since margins in SEPA burbs will be close. Sad our voter ID law got hung up

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 20, 2012 07:18 AM (J6kXj)

220 Not seen any polls Lincoln but just check the demographics of Albany, thats all you need to see. Hope I'm wrong but don't count on it.

Posted by: wierd flunky at October 20, 2012 07:19 AM (tlhtD)

221 Was = way Damn ipad

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 20, 2012 07:19 AM (J6kXj)

222 Thanks Rockmom, very interesting.

Posted by: TD, one of the proud 53% at October 20, 2012 07:19 AM (+uFux)

223 October Surprise: On Nov 2nd people will wake up to 7.4% Unemployment and $3.49/gal gas. And Obama's media will, for 72 straight hours, trumpet Obama's robust recovery.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2012 07:20 AM (jUytm)

224 I believe that not only will Romney win this is a landslide but it will be called surprisingly early.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at October 20, 2012 07:20 AM (hlUJY)

225 214 Gas up here has dropped in the last two weeks from $3.85 to $3.70. Has OPEC increased output to help Obama get reelected? Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2012 11:16 AM (jUytm) _______________ No, the economy's just getting worse. A professor told me that gas prices fall when that happens.

Posted by: Dante at October 20, 2012 07:20 AM (NWLVJ)

226 CAC... you magnificent BASTARD!!!

Posted by: Mjölnir, the banhammer from the gates of Hell at October 20, 2012 07:20 AM (Jls4P)

227 210 The CEO's may like O, but the grunts can't stand him. Trust me--when the reps come calling (I'm a doc), OCare is just about all we talk about (when they're not talking about losing their jobs because of OCare). Will it be overwhelming in SEPA? Not sure, but it will even the score, and that's all R needs.

Posted by: Interested Party at October 20, 2012 07:20 AM (RE+1w)

228

#201 I think Romney and Ryan personally won over a lot of those people in the debates.  Romney's like their CEOs - smart, organized, capable, pragmatic, and doesn't appear ideological.  Paul Ryan is them, or the guy they work with, and like.  Young, smart and capable.  They bought into the memes in 2008 that McCain was old and Palin was stupid and dangerous. 

 

Posted by: rockmom at October 20, 2012 07:20 AM (qe2/V)

229 SurveyUSA poll just up on RCP has Obama up 1 in FL, but with a D+9 sample (43 D / 34 R / 23 I).  So, R/R actually up about 4-7 points with a reasonable voter affiliation sample, consistent with some other recent polls - and consistent with Suffolk U's decision to no longer poll there because FL is a R/R win.

Posted by: good solid F- at October 20, 2012 07:21 AM (x9s9/)

230 224 I believe that not only will Romney win this is a landslide but it will be called surprisingly early. Posted by: Bill Mitchell at October 20, 2012 11:20 AM (hlUJY) Dick Morris? Is that you? / l l l l l l l (preference cascade icon)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 20, 2012 07:22 AM (+tqYo)

231 The IBD tracking poll has been showing Romney and Obama pulling 40% ish of Jewish voters ... if that holds, that is crushing for Obama. Like a 30% drop from 2008.

Posted by: Honey Badger at October 20, 2012 07:22 AM (Xfofp)

232 I predict 8 million part time jobs created for October in the household survey. Lol not really. I think at least half of those bogus 870k jobs created last month will be adjusted away and unemployment goes back over 8% and more people enter workforce motivated by Sept silly numbers. I wonder why we use the volatile survey for the unemployment number instead of the reliable survey?

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at October 20, 2012 07:22 AM (hlUJY)

233 Mitt won't win CA, but he will win just about every county in CA. Similar outcomes will occur in other States. The election map viewed by State is very different than the same map viewed by county. It is a great illustration of a fundamental problem with the USA: Lefty hives called cities.

Posted by: eman at October 20, 2012 07:23 AM (+XD7n)

234 ... They bought into the memes in 2008 that McCain was old and Palin was stupid and dangerous.

Posted by: rockmom at October 20, 2012 11:20 AM (qe2/V)


Two out of three ain't bad.

Posted by: jwb7605 at October 20, 2012 07:23 AM (Qxe/p)

235 Yeah, here's hoping that PA finally turns red this year. My state of Washington sure as hell won't. Although they might have to steal the governorship this year again as it is really close.

Posted by: NWConservative at October 20, 2012 07:23 AM (M1gmo)

236

1. Can anybody give me an honest (No Eeyers No Pollyannas) assessment of Nevada ?

2. I hear PPP is about to come out with a new Ohio poll - closer than last week's.

Posted by: Perdogg at October 20, 2012 07:23 AM (Ttf/I)

237 IBD uses a Dem +7 sample expecting 2% less Republicans than 2008. Utterly bogus.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at October 20, 2012 07:24 AM (hlUJY)

238 Sad our voter ID law got hung up

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 20, 2012 11:18 AM (J6kXj)

I don't understand? I've been asked for ID before they check me off when I vote since I've been here (2006). Same in CT.

What's the big deal about having an ID law. I always thought it was the law until states started enacting them.

What, if I hadn't had ID, I could've still voted?

Democrats; Don't want ID for voting but required ID to get in convention.

Eric Holder; ID for voting is racist or something but Media is required to produce ID to get into his press conference.


Need ID to:

Enter many bldgs.

Fly.

Buy a car.

Buy a house.

Buy a gun.

Get ID.

What's the problem?

That oldster in the wheelchair who was the PA ID LAWSUIT Victim?

Went and got ID in about an hour when the ruling came back the first time.


Posted by: Jcw46 at October 20, 2012 07:24 AM (Vh0f5)

239 BlackOrchid, I have three neighbors who work for Merck and have Romney signs in their yards.  Two of them voted for Obama in 2008.  I knew we were toast in 2008 when I talked to people in my own neighborhood, a lot of them had never voted for a Democrat but voted for O.  They got burned and are voting him out.

Posted by: rockmom at October 20, 2012 07:25 AM (qe2/V)

240 I hate pixy misa.

Posted by: Jcw46 at October 20, 2012 07:25 AM (Vh0f5)

241

; margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;" class="MsoNormal">I don't think that there was another nom candidate who would be in the dominant position Romney is in now.    Gingrich (who I like) would have won both debates which would have served to drop Obama's lead in Gallup from 58/40 to 55/41.  

; margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;" class="MsoNormal">It wasn't the debate win it was the introduction of the real man.   I believe Romney will be a great President. 

; margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;" class="MsoNormal"> That being said, the Winston Wolfe rule remains in effect until further notice.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at October 20, 2012 07:25 AM (Rrc6j)

242 Posted by: eman at October 20, 2012 11:23 AM (+XD7n) The election map viewed by State is very different than the same map viewed by county. It is a great illustration of a fundamental problem with the USA: Lefty hives called cities. You are quite correct. O won VA last time and it basically came down to 4 counties around larger cities. Change those 4 by a little, not even have Romney win, and VA flips.

Posted by: RKinRoanoke at October 20, 2012 07:26 AM (pxur/)

243 No, the economy's just getting worse. A professor told me that gas prices fall when that happens. That's true over the short-term, all things being equal. You can see how things are going in your area, week-to-week, by watching prices. However, thanks to the Fed, all things aren't equal. Our dollar isn't worth as much as it was four years ago.

Posted by: t-bird at October 20, 2012 07:26 AM (FcR7P)

244

4 more years of slow growth, please.  It makes us look ok buy comparasin.

Posted by: c students fro obam a at October 20, 2012 07:26 AM (x9s9/)

245 Heh. Just saw Ryan at a campaign speech in PA on CNN. The CNN bubblehead wrapped up the segment by saying "Ok that was Paul Ryan in Moonshine, PA" It's Moon Township.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2012 07:26 AM (TMB3S)

246 I had to show my driver's license for a routine doctor's appointment the other day. Seriously, the only basis for objecting to voter i.d. laws is to preserve fraud. Everyone knows that too. Some poll the other day said 71% support voter i.d.

Posted by: TD, one of the proud 53% at October 20, 2012 07:26 AM (+uFux)

247 I still think anyone who voted for obama in 2008 or at anytime is an idiot.

Posted by: Redd at October 20, 2012 07:26 AM (RoEtU)

248 68 You ever thought that the pollsters were inflating for Romeny in hopes to depress turnout for us? Wouldn't put it past them. Remember, Reagan was down 6 points at the very same period against Carter.

Turnout is what matters, not polls.


Actually it was 47-39, EIGHT points and that was on Oct 26th.  Everyone knows Jimmah got re elected right?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 20, 2012 07:26 AM (wR+pz)

249 You really think Obama's BLS and the union-commie Linda Solis will raise the UE rate 72 hours before the election?? The UE rate is going down. Bet your house, wife, kids, dog and cat on it.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2012 07:27 AM (jUytm)

250 SCOAMF/BIDET SHOVEL READY MASS GRAVES FOR THE 11th CENTURY

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 20, 2012 07:27 AM (+tqYo)

251 Perdogg, I think Nevada will be close, but Obama will win there due to union corruption and Californian migration. The Democrats have been registering many more voters there than in most other states, its one of their bright spots of success this year. I don't know why Nevada is the way it is with the economy there the shittiest in the country. Even the Colorado guys have Mitt winning a huge landslide victory with Nevada going to Obama.

Posted by: NWConservative at October 20, 2012 07:27 AM (M1gmo)

252 17 Days? 17 Days! We're doomed man, doomed. Game over man, game over!

Posted by: wierd flunky at October 20, 2012 07:28 AM (tlhtD)

253 Good morning you lazy bums. I'm at work.

Posted by: mpfs at October 20, 2012 07:28 AM (yxiCH)

254 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 20, 2012 11:16 AM (+tqYo)

Can you make it to Hoboken?

That seems to be the only reasonable location for both NYC and NJ morons.

PATH for NYC, and NJ Transit and cars for the NJ contingent.

However, I sent out a blast e-mail and got about a 20% response compared to April, so.......it might be just you, me and Nevergiveup!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2012 07:28 AM (2b4yb)

255 Nevada is the place where Harry Reid defied the polls to steal a win. 'nuf said.

Posted by: TD, one of the proud 53% at October 20, 2012 07:29 AM (+uFux)

256 196
Double CAC Rainbow Bounce Poll Thread!!!


What Does It Mean?!?!?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2012 11:10 AM (jUytm)


What an excellent reference. I wonder how many people will get it though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQSNhk5ICTI

I hate "double rainbow" guy. You know he's a liberal based on his idiocy in that video.

Posted by: Slappy at October 20, 2012 07:29 AM (LTbLf)

257

Republicans in  PA were stupid, they should have passed the voter ID law immediately in 2011 and had it in effect for local elections last year.  It would have been upheld if the state had more time to make sure everyone had ID before this election.  That's the only reason it was stayed.  It will be in effect next year and from then on.

 

Libs are whining that the state is still running TV ads telling people to get ID.  The ad clearly says "you will be asked to show ID but not required to this year."  They are saying that is voter intimidation.  They are desperate.

Posted by: rockmom at October 20, 2012 07:29 AM (qe2/V)

258 Corn fields aren't threatening like the sugarcane fields are to human life.

There's a CKD epidemic attacking sugarcane workers around the globe. The research stipulates that the field workers' bodies are not prone to the incurable CKD attacking the kidneys. The workers are not obese, do not suffer from high blood pressure or diabetes, do not live sedentary lives, etc. typical of people who suffer chronic kidney disease (CKD).

If indeed this sugarcane epidemic is something new, not recurring from previous century sugarcane working population/environment, then by all means investigate or reveal what causal role results from (combined) newly introduced chemicals and/or genetic modifications from the modernized global corporatist industries into the sugarcane, climate and lifestyle of the worker that trigger this epidemic.

http://tinyurl.com/9xkfurg
quote:

What the men in the area have in common is they all work in farming. So Dr. Orantes thinks a major cause of their kidney damage is the toxic chemicals – pesticides and herbicides – that are routinely used here in agriculture.

“These chemicals are banned in the United States, Europe and Canada, and they’re used here, without any protection, and in large amounts that are very concerning,” he says.

But heÂ’s not ready to rule out other possible causes. For instance, the overuse of painkillers can damage the kidneys, and so can drinking too much alcohol. Both are major problems here, he says.

The Pellas Group Company spokesman Ariel Granera says if a worker is found to have kidney disease, he is let go – out of concern, says Granera, for the worker’s well-being.

But the sick workers who have been dismissed say what they receive from the companies and from social security isn’t enough to live on – and when they lose their jobs, they lose the right to be treated at company clinics.

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 20, 2012 07:29 AM (BAnPT)

259 254 CB's D: Yeah, I'm near the PATH train so no worries. Actually, I'm a little nervous considering the peace loving Left's call for riots and murders if SCOAMF loses.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 20, 2012 07:30 AM (+tqYo)

260 2012 - Don't miss the historic chance to vote a commie out of office!

Posted by: Redd at October 20, 2012 07:30 AM (RoEtU)

261 251 okay, but what about Heller?

Posted by: Perdogg at October 20, 2012 07:31 AM (Ttf/I)

262 All silent on the Gergish front.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 20, 2012 07:31 AM (aHR5E)

263 Gerg is pretending he's Jewish.

Posted by: Jcw46 at October 20, 2012 07:32 AM (Vh0f5)

264 One way to tell times are good is you hear people bitching about work. The boss. The commute. Office drama. Whatever. When unemployment is 4.5% you get plenty of that. Nowadays, not so much. Such complaints are a huge slap in the face to people who are desperate for work. Mitt's job is to change things so that we may bitch about work again.

Posted by: eman at October 20, 2012 07:32 AM (+XD7n)

265 262 Gergle to come out for Romney, October surprise!

Posted by: wierd flunky at October 20, 2012 07:33 AM (tlhtD)

266 College Gameday, just sayin'.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 20, 2012 07:33 AM (HethX)

267

It's true that my campaign has pulled out of Florida, North Carolina, and Virginia.  (Light laughter.)  It's also true that I pulled out of Michelle nine years ago.  (Loud laughter.)

My wife is a man.  (Standing applause.)

Posted by: b.h. obama at October 20, 2012 07:33 AM (x9s9/)

268 Haven't seen steevy yet so here's for you steevy:

Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: Jcw46 at October 20, 2012 07:33 AM (Vh0f5)

269 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 20, 2012 11:30 AM (+tqYo)

If there is trouble -- and I think that there will be sporadic violence and property destruction -- it won't happen until the next day anyway.

Besides the 2nd Amendment guarantees our right to keep and bear arms, and NY and NJ are in the United States, so I guess we can defend ourselves.

[do I really need a /sarc tag?]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2012 07:34 AM (2b4yb)

270 One of the major issues with all these national and state polls oversampling Democrats is that when they are shown to have oversampled on election night when the actual returns come in, we'll have to hear, once again, how the election was stolen by Romney and the Republicans. Of course, that happens every election, but considering it will result in the removal from office of the first African-American president, the potential inner-city unrest could be very, very bad. I know liberals will say that this statement is racist but considering the emphasis they place on race with all of their public policies and public statements, they should look in the mirror when making those accusations.

Posted by: Slappy at October 20, 2012 07:34 AM (LTbLf)

271 188 CAC, you are 100% right on PA. The problem in Bucks has beenliberals moving here from New York and New Jersey. That's why it flipped to Kerry in 2004 and Obama in 2008. ... I don't know a ton of people here, because I moved here in 2004, but I can tell you that I personally know 10 voters who are switching from Obama to Romney. Many are Republicans, but here the Republicans are moderate, sort of the old-fashioned country-club Republicans. And they LOVE Mitt Romney. I've lived here since 1969, and I would add that many of the Baby Boomers around here are pretty liberal. The PA suburbs used to be solid R, but not anymore. I'm in central Bucks, and I would say that in 2008 the signs and stickers were pretty evenly split between McCain and Obama. One day I drove through upper Bucks, which is more or less the richer part of the county, and I was absolutely flabbergasted by the predominance of Obama signs. That's when I knew we were in trouble. As I said in #86, this year in my part of the county, signs and stickers are conspicuous by their absence. I'm still a boomer, but I'm an ex-liberal Democrat. I still have a number of friends who haven't made the change. Throughout the Bush years, I was on the receiving end of an endless barrage of anti-Bush jokes and e-mails. I attempted to get my friends to vote for McCain/Palin in 2008, without success. Since Obama's election, I lost interest in talking politics with them. I've been very quiet around them for the past four years. In other words, I haven't given them back what they gave me. I've decided not to try to persuade them to vote for Romney this time around. For one thing, I'm not very persuasive. For another, most people have a hard time admitting they made a mistake. If I get up in their faces, it may backfire and they could become more intransigent. I think I'll just let the preference cascade do its work.

Posted by: rickl at October 20, 2012 07:34 AM (sdi6R)

272

#242 The battles are all in the suburbs around Philly, Cincinnati, Washington, DC, Milwaukee, and Orlando.  Obama won those areas in 2008, and combined with the massive black and youth turnout, is why he won.  He's not getting quite the 2008 black turnout this year, but it will still be high.  He is campaigning exclusively now on college campuses, which should tell you they are worried about the youth vote.  They have essentially abandoned the suburbs.  Romney and Ryan are campaigning almost exclusively in the suburbs.  

 

Which campaign looks like it is winning? 

Posted by: rockmom at October 20, 2012 07:35 AM (qe2/V)

273 Perdogg, I think Heller is going to keep his seat despite the Obama win. Heller is a known quantity and won THREE times in Nevada statewide. Tarkanian is doing well and may well win the democrat gerrymandered district there and the other toss up race will go to the Republican. A lot of vote splitting going on. Just look at my state of Washington, Obama winning by 15% and Inslee/Mckenna (governor) are tied.

Posted by: NWConservative at October 20, 2012 07:35 AM (M1gmo)

274 Besides the 2nd Amendment guarantees our right to keep and bear arms, and NY and NJ are in the United States, so I guess we can defend ourselves. [do I really need a /sarc tag?] ________________ We're lucky they let us have belts and shoelaces in NJ.

Posted by: Dante at October 20, 2012 07:35 AM (NWLVJ)

275 Have you guys seen the story linked on Drudge about Barry's campaign borrowing $15 mil from Bank of America?  Who says that bank bailout wasn't a good investment of my tax dollars!

Posted by: Peaches is caustically optimistic at October 20, 2012 07:36 AM (kpCLl)

276 Lincoln, as a lifelong Bulldog I guess there really is a first time for everything, GO FLORIDA GATORS!

Posted by: wierd flunky at October 20, 2012 07:36 AM (tlhtD)

277 Any "demonstrations of anger" will remain close to the cities they originate in.

PA is hunting country. You know what that means.

Any strays may experience the shock of objects penetrating their skin with rapid force.

Posted by: Jcw46 at October 20, 2012 07:36 AM (Vh0f5)

278 Yahoo Headline: 'Moderate Mitt' or the 'most anti-immigrant candidate ever'? Yup! Looks like Mitt is going to be President, so now media pressing hard to move him to the center.

Posted by: Bomb Syria.....With Kindness at October 20, 2012 07:37 AM (AzwZn)

279 how does a moonbat with lisp and a shitty personality have a shot at being governor?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2012 07:37 AM (jUytm)

280 The only Obama sign I've seen in our area is in front of my MIL's house. I'm pondering taking a dump on her front porch.

Last night I took a Sharpie and amended it to read "FORWARD...off a cliff."

Red diaper babies piss me off something fierce.

I cannot wait to vote that fuck out of office.


Posted by: CLP at October 20, 2012 07:37 AM (8Y+Yx)

281 Posted by: rickl at October 20, 2012 11:34 AM (sdi6R)

"It was a grand experiment, and I am proud of America for moving beyond its racial animus and embracing the possibilities that Obama represented. It didn't work out, and many of us are saddened and disappointed, but I guess we need to move on."

Or a lead pipe to the backs of their heads....whichever seems reasonable.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2012 07:38 AM (2b4yb)

282 can't wait for inner city blacks to launch random attacks on their white neighbors and passersby, most of whom will have voted for Obama.

Posted by: breezy for the preezy at October 20, 2012 07:38 AM (x9s9/)

283 Denver Post endorses failed president cuz Romney doesn't appear to be "moving to the center."

Posted by: Bomb Syria.....With Kindness at October 20, 2012 07:38 AM (AzwZn)

284 For one thing, I'm not very persuasive. How about the opposite tack? "Come on, guys- let's get gas to $9 a gallon so the Muslims will love us! You don't need that retirement nest egg when you have free health care, anyways!" etc.

Posted by: t-bird at October 20, 2012 07:39 AM (FcR7P)

285 I own stock in a company that owns stock in a company that once loaned money to a company that owned stock in a company that made thermostats. Therefore, I know what you're thinking at all times. I control all aspects of your life. Not to mention your Starbucks discount card.

Posted by: Tagg Romney (aka The Scarecrow of Romney Marsh) at October 20, 2012 07:39 AM (p4U6S)

286 Well, I see that my concern for civil unrest occurring is held by others here. It's the elephant in the room, though no one in the mainstream media is going to mention it ... unless Obama's trailing in the final days of the campaign, then they'll probably use it to scare late deciders to vote for Obama/Biden.

Posted by: Slappy at October 20, 2012 07:39 AM (LTbLf)

287 275 Have you guys seen the story linked on Drudge about Barry's campaign borrowing $15 mil from Bank of America? Who says that bank bailout wasn't a good investment of my tax dollars! Posted by: Peaches is caustically optimistic at October 20, 2012 11:36 AM (kpCLl) Yep, saw that. jeeez.....

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at October 20, 2012 07:39 AM (haNEH)

288 Loony Larry O'Donnell can punch his pillow all he wants.

This is what I meant by "wanting" to take a swing at Obama but having to work within the system. And you don't come out on top in the system by brawling. You have your people take care of things.

We Romney men don't fight. We win.

Posted by: Tagg "The Fixer" Romney at October 20, 2012 07:39 AM (vouc9)

289

rickl, I am also in central Bucks, we should meet up for coffee sometime!

 

I drove to Baltimore last weekend and was floored at how many Romney signs I saw on the way to I-95.  These are the big commuter routes and in 2008 they were flooded with Obama signs.  There is one homemade one that says "ROMNEY=RECOVERY / OBAMA=BANKRUPTCY"  I counted only three Obama signs on the way. 

 

Most people I know are in my church, and soccer/theater parents.  I don't ask them, they have volunteered to me that they voted for Obama but aren't this time. 

Posted by: rockmom at October 20, 2012 07:40 AM (qe2/V)

290 The media will do it's best to inflame the masses before during and after.

Posted by: Jcw46 at October 20, 2012 07:40 AM (Vh0f5)

291 >>"It was a grand experiment, and I am proud of America for moving beyond its racial animus and embracing the possibilities that Obama represented. It didn't work out, and many of us are saddened and disappointed, but I guess we need to move on." That's pretty much word for word what Kid Rock said to a crowd when he was introducing Paul Ryan in MI. Crowd seemed to take it very well.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2012 07:40 AM (TMB3S)

292 Meh, the only poll that matters is in 18 days or so. Probably should renew my EVE account in the meantime.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at October 20, 2012 07:40 AM (KCvsd)

293 Something weird going on at RCP. They appear to be cherry picking polls to put into the averages. The PA Susquehanna poll form yesterday? Nowhere to be seen. Why?

Posted by: Interested Party at October 20, 2012 07:41 AM (RE+1w)

294

What the hell, Petraeus?

How did you get sucked into the First Amendment Jihad?

Posted by: Beagle at October 20, 2012 07:41 AM (sOtz/)

295 Lots of dems publicly jumping ship. Imagine what the current is like under the surface.

Posted by: Invictus at October 20, 2012 07:41 AM (OQpzc)

296 He is campaigning exclusively now on college campuses, Oh, y'all are still learnin' and have no idea how the real world works? Perfect...

Posted by: Baraka O at October 20, 2012 07:41 AM (FcR7P)

297 People want to riot after the election? Screw 'em. Just burning down their own neighborhoods anyway.

Posted by: wierd flunky at October 20, 2012 07:42 AM (tlhtD)

298 288: "Loony Larry O'Donnell can punch his pillow all he wants."

Punch a pillow? Excuse me, sir, I believe the phrase is "bite the pillow" ... at least that phrase is more appropriate for me, personally.

Posted by: Barney Frank at October 20, 2012 07:42 AM (LTbLf)

299 I work for a company (750 employees) that is 75% minority/female. Not one single Obama bumper sticker in the parking lot. Not one. 2008? Seemed like every other car had one.

Posted by: Natasha at October 20, 2012 07:43 AM (pyYXJ)

300 90 More like Mary Ann

Posted by: Tuna at October 20, 2012 07:43 AM (M/TDA)

301 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2012 11:34 AM (2b4yb) I'll dress like Bernie Goetz and mutter to myself.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 20, 2012 07:44 AM (+tqYo)

302 He goes to the college campuses for the visuals of having lots of bright young faces in the crowd. Oh and white.

Plus the colleges will front the costs for security because they'll tap the state they're in. Something cities and towns may not be able to do.

Many cities have complained that Obama's campaign have left them with big bills for security and brushed off any attempts at getting paid.

This is all being stage managed for media affect and if we had a true free press, someone would write a story about it.

Vote Romney and Piss the Liberal Media off.

Posted by: Jcw46 at October 20, 2012 07:44 AM (Vh0f5)

303 >>Lots of dems publicly jumping ship. Imagine what the current is like under the surface. You can see it in subtle ways. 60,000 fewer Dem registrations in Cuyahoga county Ohio than in '08. That was Obama's biggest county for vote total in Ohio in '08, a state he won by 200,000. And early voting totals are down for Dems and up for Reps.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2012 07:45 AM (TMB3S)

304 I'm in El Lay and I can count on one hand the number of O stickers I've seen on cars, which is absolutely amazing.  Most people seem to have removed the old ones from '08, too.  Which is odd, because the Kerry Edwards stickers lasted for years.

Posted by: Peaches is caustically optimistic at October 20, 2012 07:45 AM (kpCLl)

305 Plus, he's dead. So he's definitely voting for Obama.

Posted by: iNC Ref at October 20, 2012 07:45 AM (0Skrw)

306 Slat Lake City Tribune: "Where is pragmatic, inclusive Mitt?" We don't see him. We see someone who is servile to the Tea Party. Sorry, we have to back a real loser(Obama).

Posted by: Bomb Syria.....With Kindness at October 20, 2012 07:46 AM (AzwZn)

307 nude tread.

Posted by: Jcw46 at October 20, 2012 07:46 AM (Vh0f5)

308

#293 that Susquehanna poll was commissioned by the PA Republican Party.  It's not considered an independent poll so it won't be considered by RCP.   There has been a dearth of independent polls of PA, at least on the Presidential ballot.  But several polls have shown Tom Smith closing or even ahead of Bob Casey.  That's a good indication that the Pres. race is close. 

 

Don't ever believe the Philadelphia Inquirer polls.  The last one they did in NJ in 2009 had Corzine beating Christie. 

Posted by: rockmom at October 20, 2012 07:46 AM (qe2/V)

309 Recent 1 hour drive through central Mass -- Republican yard signs +80 over Dimocrat signs.  Where's all the Dim enthusiasm after 4 years of Obama?

Posted by: powerpuff at October 20, 2012 07:46 AM (x9s9/)

310 My BC Eagles are hoping to snag a rare ACC win today, facing a weak Georgia Tech. Horrible season. Wake Forest has a chance against another ACC dog, Virginia. Notre Dame should beat BYU, but undefeated teams don't stay that way forever, and the Cougars are just the type of team to break a streak.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 20, 2012 07:47 AM (HethX)

311 He goes to the college campuses for the visuals of having lots of bright young faces in the crowd. Oh and white. -------------------------------- Obama goes to campuses because he has a built-in audience. Classes are cancelled so students can attend. These brain dead celebrity worshippers will cheer for anything, and Obama needs that sound bite to play on the news.

Posted by: Bomb Syria.....With Kindness at October 20, 2012 07:48 AM (AzwZn)

312 12 minutes until college football kicks off, and Comcast has an outage. NO ESPN.

Well done, geniuses.

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 20, 2012 07:49 AM (8sCoq)

313

#304 They really, really hated Bush.  These are the secular, highly educated liberals who despise the God-squad Republicans and they thought Bush was one.  They also thought Bush was dumb.  The Kerry-Edwards stickers simply said "I'm one of the smart set who hate Bush." 

 

They are having a tough time in this election because Romney is more of an old-fashioned Republican that they can't hate.

Posted by: rockmom at October 20, 2012 07:49 AM (qe2/V)

314 I think you're right, rockmom.  Plus, in their heart of hearts, I think an awful lot of them will be very happy to see the end of the plastic jeebus.

Posted by: Peaches is caustically optimistic at October 20, 2012 07:53 AM (kpCLl)

315 236 1.Can anybodygive me an honest (No Eeyers No Pollyannas) assessmentof Nevada ? Isn't that the state that gave us Harry Reid? What else do you need to know?

Posted by: Natasha at October 20, 2012 07:54 AM (pyYXJ)

316

I have been pounding the MSM guys on Twitter to report about all of Obama's college visits.  He's been to George Mason U. in Fairfax, Virginia twice in the last 3 weeks.  Nowhere else in Virginia.  Romney and Ryan have done numerous rallies in suburban and semi-rural places in VA.  I think the last non-college stop Obama did was in Denver the day after the debate, and the crowd was sparse and mostly black. 

 

 

Posted by: rockmom at October 20, 2012 07:55 AM (qe2/V)

317 Plus, in their heart of hearts, I think an awful lot of them will be very happy to see the end of the plastic jeebus. Posted by: Peaches is caustically optimistic at October 20, 2012 11:53 AM (kpCLl) Agreed.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at October 20, 2012 07:55 AM (haNEH)

318 No one here will care but my preorder for the new The Sword album showed up! Hurray! Beautiful orange-marbled 180 gram vinyl with digital download card. Currently annoying the pinko neighbors with it.

Posted by: Witchfinder at October 20, 2012 07:56 AM (s/PhC)

319

I was voting romney regardless, but the overwhelming number of cocksuckerish "binders of women" and other anti-romney talking points that i am running into daily on my FB page alone are enough to make me punch a ballot against the current dousche-in-chief.

Posted by: Mr. Happy at October 20, 2012 07:57 AM (pF9Lm)

320 I see none of you wingers want a piece of me. Yeah. C'mon badasses. I'm here all day.

Posted by: Lawrence "Fists of Steel" O'Donnell at October 20, 2012 07:58 AM (haNEH)

321 That's Comcountthecost.

They make the old soviet politboro look like the welcome wagon.

Our local office has a 1" thick plexiglass divider between them and their customers. !!!!!

I think that was a decision made in blood at some point.

And they still manage to keep being as obnoxious, frustrating, thieving and confusing as ever.

People get jobs as ComeCost clerks to practice for the DMV or Prison Guard.

Posted by: Jcw46 at October 20, 2012 07:59 AM (Vh0f5)

322 311 Obama goes to campuses because he has a built-in audience. Classes are cancelled so students can attend. If I was a college student and the President of the United States came to my campus, I would attend. It's sort of an historic event. It doesn't necessarily mean that I like him or agree with anything he says.

Posted by: rickl at October 20, 2012 08:02 AM (sdi6R)

323 Bluerose75
51
30...yes Ras is using Plus Dem 5 nationally....so is Gallup...
Posted by: bluerose75 at October 20, 2012 10:11 AM (HDcKc)

Does that mean that you think the great Gallup numbers for Romney are even better than we think?

Posted by: Alix at October 20, 2012 08:03 AM (YnAxX)

324

I'm getting ready to be pissed off (well, more pissed off than usual) when the economy explodes under President Romney (all that pent-up demand released, all that uncertainty and fear removed) and leftists will claim that Obama's moronic policies have finally come to fruition. If only He'd had more time ...

 

You heard it here first.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 20, 2012 08:07 AM (U+DUu)

325 My statistical models tell me that Romney has a 0.00000000007% chance of winning. Suck it, losers!

Posted by: Nate Silver at October 20, 2012 08:11 AM (Vcu2r)

326

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Donkeys' dominos.|

Posted by: sherlock at October 20, 2012 08:12 AM (f29LO)

327 Alix, Gallup is using R+1. They base it off of their partisan sampling each month.

Posted by: NWConservative at October 20, 2012 08:13 AM (M1gmo)

328 324 I'm getting ready to be pissed off (well, more pissed off than usual) when the economy explodes under President Romney (all that pent-up demand released, all that uncertainty and fear removed) andleftists will claim that Obama's moronic policies have finally come to fruition. If only He'd had more time ... You heard it here first. Sort of like how Reagan's economic policies came to fruition during Clinton's presidency. Oh, wait. Clinton got credit for that.

Posted by: rickl at October 20, 2012 08:23 AM (sdi6R)

329 Republican enthusiasm is at least as high as it was in 2010, if not higher.   A D+9 sample results in a tie?  In reality, that gives Romney a lead in Ohio. 

Posted by: Restless at October 20, 2012 08:28 AM (3RnfH)

330 It's going to be interesting to see how the MFM handles preference cascading away from them despite their best attempts at treason, and whether to save face/cause they finally out SCOAMF for everything that they've covered up during this historic national scam.

Preznit P Shiddy isn't who they've been pretending him to be, and the elusive, slippery truth is going to be devastating to the left it ever gains traction with the low infos.

Posted by: ontherocks at October 20, 2012 08:48 AM (aZ6ew)

331 When my son and I discuss the latest poll we always ask what the sample is. We now say 7, 8, 9 etc. D+ is understood.

Posted by: Terry Gain at October 20, 2012 09:17 AM (Xri0e)

332 328 And if the already mortally-wounded economy collapses during Romney's term, which is a near certainty, you can bet that he will be blamed for it, since it happened on his watch. Then Obama himself could run as a full-bore Marxist in 2016, and would stand a good chance of winning.

Posted by: rickl at October 20, 2012 09:22 AM (sdi6R)

333 Been driving around the Jersey side of the Delaware River these last few weeks. Almost no Obama signs! Even in Cherry Hill! I have seen quite a number of Romney/Ryan signs however. Also almost no Obama bumper stickers. The enthusiasm just is not there as it was in 2008.

Posted by: Bronxnative at October 20, 2012 10:53 AM (Td+OM)

334 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at October 20, 2012 11:36 AM (6o4Fb)

335 "Expect PPP to pull it's usual later today, though with IA, NH, and even CO releases earlier this week, who knows?" - CAC With only two weeks to go they could be going into let's-tell-the-truth-and-keep-our-reputations-fuck-Obama-baby's-gotta-eat mode. But I'm curious as to their apparently more honest polls lately. There was also a poll that wasn't talked much about by them and Kos (it was talked about here) that showed Romney w/ a good lead nationally. PPP are actual hacks (maybe "partisan" would be a better word than "hack" as hack implies dumbness and I don't think the people a PPP are dumb). Meaning, they're not just left-leaning, they'll actually rig polls for specific effect. For example, some people think during R primaries they've juggled the numbers to make the candidate they feel would be the easiest to defeat in the General Election show a lead. Going from the POV that they're doing this for partisan reasons...what do the close polls they've recently put out tell us? I think it tells us that they fear to lose those States and the popular vote. They want to create a feeling (in the D base) that this is still the President's election to lose...but that he could lose it if there is not good turn out in the swing states. But that also means that they feel in their hearts that Obama CAN lose those swing states. PPP is acknowledging potential fatal weakness. Or to paraphrase the second most famous Austrian of the 20th century from the first "Predator" movie when his character was observing some blood the creature left on a tree-leaf: ARNOLD'S CHARACTER (thick Austrian accent) If it bleeds, that means it can die.

Posted by: trickamsterdam at October 20, 2012 01:30 PM (uTBHY)

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