June 11, 2012

85 Congressmen Sign Letter Urging Holder To Investigate SWATtings
— Ace

Kerry Pickett interviews deputy sheriff turned Congresswoman Sandy Adams.

"I hope that the Attorney General takes a very hard and close look at this, because itÂ’s putting our citizens at risk and in danger--because theyÂ’re having people arrive at their house with heightened awareness--because they had a 911 call with a report of shots fired or holding people hostage or whatever the quote-unquote 911 call was for," Rep. Adams explained.

A new voice is also crying out for investigations into the SWATtings: Brett Kimberlin, who says he now the fourth victim of the SWATtings. On his blog, the Velvet Revolution (which I would not go to; just trust me) he says he, too, is a victim.

But Patterico has a screenshot.

Patterico also notes that the ABCNews report on this affair was published on June 6th, and the reporter was still working on it June 5th. She contacted Kimberlin for comment -- but no mention of the SWATting appeared in her article.

I have written to her to discover if Brett Kimberlin mentioned this May 31st SWATting.

It's possible he did, but claimed this off-the-record. Why he would insist on it being off-the-record, I don't know. He's never been shy about proclaiming the various ways he's been victimized before.

Perhaps he had good reason, though. Because whoever SWATted Brett Kimberlin has upped the stakes, because the phantom SWATter is now engaged in what I call Secret SWATtings.

Subsequent to inquiries I made this morning, I received the following email from the Montgomery county Maryland public information office:


Good Morning,

I searched our 911 call database for the above listed address [Kimberlin's]. There was no call listed for 5/31, nor anything similar to what you described. I then searched each of our 6 districts for the entire day of 5/31 for a murder in progress, murder just occurred or murder occurred earlier call with negative results. I then spoke with our director to determine if this type of incident was brought to his attention recently and it was not. If your research proliferates any further detail that would help us to narrow down the search, please let me know. I can always check another address if you find one, but for the time being, I donÂ’t see anything similar to what you described.

Lee Stranahan sought comment from Kimberlin's lawyer Kevin Zeese. Although Mr. Kimberlin is willing to post about his ordeal on his blog, and offer a reward for information leading to the identification of the SWATter, he sniffs "We do not intend to try this matter in the press. We have no further comment at this time."

There will be justice in this matter. Count on it.

Please do not do anything which would actually give Kimberlin some ammunition in his thirty year campaign of claiming he's a "victim" of a grand conspiracy.

There's an old lower-case-p proverb:

Though the mills of God grind slowly, yet they grind exceeding small; Though with patience he stands waiting, with exactness grinds he all.

Just so Brett Kimberlin understands this proverb and does not think it's a "death threat," the proverb means that God (or, as I intend it, cosmic justice) is slow, but ultimately metes out a very fine justice indeed.

Patience.

If you read Citizen K, you'll become very accustomed to a pattern: First, Kimberlin makes a claim. Then the author asks law enforcement and witnesses about the claim, and, oddly enough, their version of "reality," as Mark Singer terms it, disagrees sharply with that of Kimberlin.


Posted by: Ace at 08:51 AM | Comments (168)
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1 YES!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 11, 2012 08:54 AM (MCDCp)

2 Upper case G. Nice.

Posted by: The Wolf at June 11, 2012 08:55 AM (rmNTC)

3 My congresscritter, Chaffetz, did sign it. Still waiting on action by Orrin Hatch. The conservative bloggers and pundits who decided (inexplicably) not to support his well-qualified opponent had better lean on Hatch to show how his much-vaunted seniority is helping with this. Hatch, of all ppl, should do something.

Posted by: Y-not at June 11, 2012 08:55 AM (5H6zj)

4
I donÂ’t see anything similar to what you described.

Like it never happened.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 11, 2012 08:55 AM (9Cixk)

5 Wow they are actually doing something? Congrats ace.

Posted by: Mr Pink at June 11, 2012 08:55 AM (Clzyu)

6 So close.

Posted by: LaZrtx at June 11, 2012 08:56 AM (bK81x)

7 Holder will hop on this right after he finishes up ignoring the Black Panthers at the polling places from 2008

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 11, 2012 08:57 AM (1Jaio)

8 Good NewS

Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 11, 2012 08:57 AM (kd/WP)

9 Adams is a real asskicker.

She grilled Holder the other day too.

So did Chaffez and he signed it too (I think).

About time.

Posted by: momma at June 11, 2012 08:58 AM (sYijI)

10 Technically I was raided by the fashion police.

Posted by: B. Rhett at June 11, 2012 08:58 AM (Ld6wA)

11
But wait.

Ace, surely there are police reports, ya?

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 11, 2012 08:58 AM (9Cixk)

12 Is this a thing?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 11, 2012 08:59 AM (fqKJV)

13 Too bad frank Wolfe isn't on there I wrote his @ss. Oh well

Posted by: Mr Pink at June 11, 2012 08:59 AM (Clzyu)

14 My rep signed the letter. Good. Although I really wouldn't expect less from him. He was a sheriff, so you'd think he'd understand how dangerous this garbage is.

Posted by: Mandy P., long-time lurker at June 11, 2012 08:59 AM (qFpRI)

15 Wonderful. Wow, 12:59... has it been 8 minutes already? Time for a new post.......

Posted by: The Mega Independent at June 11, 2012 09:00 AM (k8T8J)

16 To the extent I think there's *anything* to this (and I'm doubtful), I'd guess that someone called the cops and said something like "You've got a convicted bomber perjuring himself to get people thrown in jail, and you're doing NOTHING about it?!"

Which Kimberlin is then taking to be a "SWATting."


Posted by: ace at June 11, 2012 09:00 AM (aw5Tx)

17

Ace and Patterico and RSM have been doing a good job.

 

We need to help them by bringing this up to our senators and representatives and to the media.  BK hates publicity.  He is his own worst enemy.  We do not need to be bombastic or confrontational.  Let BK try that. 

Posted by: rd at June 11, 2012 09:00 AM (9sUlj)

18 The only thing Citizen K is a victim of is the bad choices that he makes in life.  I would also seriously doubt any claims he makes that he is being harassed.

Posted by: Deathknyte at June 11, 2012 09:01 AM (iaD98)

19

I have a question about the letter and am wondering if you know the answer, is the reason there are no Democrat signatories (at least on the list I saw) because the Republicans only asked their own caucus members?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at June 11, 2012 09:02 AM (RZ8pf)

20 I find it "interesting" that on the list of signatures (Washington Times Kerry Picket article), there are exactly zero (D-Anywhere) names.

You'd think at least one or two would be concerned about tables eventually turning.

Posted by: Citizen jwb7605 enhancing his calm at June 11, 2012 09:02 AM (Qxe/p)

21 Can we get a current pix of this idiot?

Posted by: n0b0z0 at June 11, 2012 09:02 AM (rsOPT)

22 YES! My congress critter signed it!!!

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at June 11, 2012 09:03 AM (DGIjM)

23 With Brett K, unless there are police reports it never happened.  Deploying a SWAT unit costs time and money so there will be a paper trail if it happened.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 11, 2012 09:03 AM (WeA4Y)

24 There is no Justice Department under obama. It is only an arm of the DNC

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 11, 2012 09:03 AM (05RcU)

25 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 11, 2012 09:04 AM (8y9MW)

26 Good thing my rep Mean Jean Schmidt got primaried the hell out of her job bc I don't see her name on there. She's a POS so this is hardly surprising.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at June 11, 2012 09:05 AM (pLTLS)

27 Which Kimberlin is then taking to be a "SWATting."

So he is calling a pre-emptive cry of "I'm a victim too!"?

Posted by: Deathknyte at June 11, 2012 09:05 AM (iaD98)

28 >>>Deploying a SWAT unit costs time and money

and involves huge helpings of liability.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at June 11, 2012 09:06 AM (0q2P7)

29 Mixed bag on my state's delegation.

Two of the six Republicans in LA signed off on it, but one of the two is Rep. Jeff Landry, who got screwed in re-districting and is not likely to return next term.

Dr. Bill Cassidy, my representative, did NOT sign on to this.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at June 11, 2012 09:06 AM (e0xKF)

30 I'm glad this has gotten some notice, but disappointed that they're asking Holder to investigate.  It seems beyond naive, to me.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 11, 2012 09:07 AM (8y9MW)

31 Well again, it's about damn time. Now about the SLAPPing that is going on!

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at June 11, 2012 09:07 AM (0q2P7)

32 Was Joe Barton's name on that letter and I just missed it, or do I have to be ticked off at him?  Again.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 11, 2012 09:08 AM (8y9MW)

33 No D's signatures = no DOJ action Disgusting but that's expected under Holder's DOJ.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 11, 2012 09:09 AM (c2oll)

34 >>>I'm glad this has gotten some notice, but disappointed that they're asking Holder to investigate. It seems beyond naive, to me.

It's not that they expect something to happen. It's a step they have to take to show faith in the system before they start to act unilaterally.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at June 11, 2012 09:09 AM (0q2P7)

35

"bombastic"

 

I do not think this word means what Brett thinks it means.

Posted by: JOEY! at June 11, 2012 09:09 AM (W2YA6)

36 You know what didn't take long? Counting the number of 'D's behind the names on that list.

Posted by: maddogg at June 11, 2012 09:10 AM (OlN4e)

37 Remember morons. Enhance You Calm!

Posted by: Ben at June 11, 2012 09:10 AM (wuv1c)

38

"I'm glad this has gotten some notice, but disappointed that they're asking Holder to investigate. It seems beyond naive, to me."

 

Yeah, I know what you mean.  I don't think a letter signed by 85 people who just spent the entire day cleaning your clock  is going to get a lot of action.

Posted by: reason at June 11, 2012 09:11 AM (W2YA6)

39 >>I'm glad this has gotten some notice, but disappointed that they're asking Holder to investigate. It seems beyond naive, to me.

of course, but Holder will at least have to forward the letter to the appropriate people, like the FBI.


Posted by: ace at June 11, 2012 09:11 AM (aw5Tx)

40 Typical modis operandi for this guy. Reading the Walker transcripts, the guy managed to convince the senile judge that HE was being picked on by creepy stalkers. Then the judge went on to drone on about his days fistfighting Vinnie in Bensonhurst because he wanted to date his sister Gina

Posted by: kbdabear at June 11, 2012 09:11 AM (Y+DPZ)

41 >>>You know what didn't take long? Counting the number of 'D's behind the names on that list.

Team D, defending free speech, which only includes stuff Team D agrees with.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at June 11, 2012 09:12 AM (0q2P7)

42 30 I'm glad this has gotten some notice, but disappointed that they're asking Holder to investigate. It seems beyond naive, to me. ---- Seems to me one major issue, that is really a local one, is who are these sherriffs and/or process servers (is that what they're called) who have supposedly delivered the notifications of lawsuits that some folks say they never got (per what ace said in discussion this weekend or last week). I mean, does BK have crooked law enforcement officers or what?

Posted by: Y-not at June 11, 2012 09:12 AM (5H6zj)

43 I note that my congress critters (Wisconsin) did not sign it.  Perhaps they are unserious people?
 
Over a Patterico's I saw a quote that Citizen K is claiming he is being swiftboated.  Yes, Citizen K, the truth is being told about you.

Posted by: Deathknyte at June 11, 2012 09:12 AM (iaD98)

44 It's not that they expect something to happen. It's a step they have to take to show faith in the system before they start to act unilaterally.

Meh.  I don't think they'd really take any flak for reading BK's record into the Congressional Record.  That would do things like grant Aaron Walker immediate (or near immediate) relief.  You're probably right, though, at least as far as Federal anti-SLAPP legislation goes.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 11, 2012 09:12 AM (8y9MW)

45 I'm shocked, my Congress critter signed it!

Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 11, 2012 09:12 AM (136wp)

46 Yes! To add to the positive, my Representative Robert Hurt signed the petition.

Posted by: museisluse at June 11, 2012 09:14 AM (q2H2p)

47 OT, survey finds people trust Bill Clinton on the economy.  More than Obama and Romney.

From Rasmussen dated today.  http://tinyurl.com/bsbndl3

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 11, 2012 09:14 AM (WeA4Y)

48 So did BK out the guy from Jersey? Or was that info already out there? Early in this story his idenetity was unknown. The name sounds vaguely familiar, blogger? 

Posted by: dananjcon at June 11, 2012 09:14 AM (eavT+)

49 Teabaggers making fraudulent 911 calls to terrorize innocent OWS activists? I'll be right on it!!

What? Oh ... never mind, just write it off as a bunch of paranoid kooks who are wasting the valuable time of the FBI

Posted by: kbdabear at June 11, 2012 09:14 AM (Y+DPZ)

50 49 - oops, forgot my Holder sock

Posted by: kbdabear at June 11, 2012 09:15 AM (Y+DPZ)

51 Ben Quayle signed it. Ha. I am sure he enjoyed signing it as he thought about his dads run ins.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at June 11, 2012 09:15 AM (DGIjM)

52 Three of the four Minnesota Republican reps signed.  Zero of four Democratic reps signed.  Time to call Erik Paulsen. 

Posted by: rd at June 11, 2012 09:15 AM (9sUlj)

53 Team D, defending free speech, which only includes stuff Team D agrees with.

----------------------

Everything else is Hate Speech, which isn't protected by the 1st Amendment because Team D says so.  Funny how that works, innit?

Posted by: meekrob at June 11, 2012 09:15 AM (x2CNJ)

54

of course, but Holder will at least have to forward the letter to the appropriate people, like the FBI.

 

 

 

 

Really? Is there a timetable? Can Holder hold it until after the election? Asking Holder to investigate this is like calling Rhom in to investigate   Kristallancht.

 

Posted by: maddogg at June 11, 2012 09:16 AM (OlN4e)

55 We are all Kimberlins now.

Posted by: Doug Ess at June 11, 2012 09:16 AM (bGgEi)

56 >>>You'd think at least one or two would be concerned about tables eventually turning.

So they aren't worried about those dangerous right-wing extremist Tea Party types using this tactic?

How could this be?

Posted by: things that make you go hmmm at June 11, 2012 09:16 AM (lTOHz)

57 Must be a case of mistaken identity. That Kimberlin fellow seems like a great guy.

Posted by: Does this leg smell gammy? at June 11, 2012 09:16 AM (AjkXn)

58 Question for those complaining that no D Reps signed:  How many of them received letters?  I know I saw several people (here and elsewhere) assuming that they'd ignore any letters and therefore at least claiming they wouldn't send them.

Frankly, that's why I skipped KBH and John Cornyn.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 11, 2012 09:17 AM (8y9MW)

59 Is there a link above that shows who signed this letter? I'm not finding it. (Then again, I'm not finding the sandwich I just made either.)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 11, 2012 09:17 AM (C8mVl)

60 And (insert follow up noncontroversial statement) too!

Posted by: Doug Ess at June 11, 2012 09:17 AM (bGgEi)

61 It's possible he did, but claimed this off-the-record. Why he would insist on it being off-the-record, I don't know. He's never been shy about proclaiming the various ways he's been victimized before.

Because he's a sociopath?

I dunno, just spitballin' here.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 11, 2012 09:17 AM (sbV1u)

62 Is there an (R) next to every signer?


Thought so.

Posted by: sickinmass at June 11, 2012 09:18 AM (bcNec)

63 If it weren't for the MBM scooping up any dirt on Dan Quayle, and their gullibility in believing he was a "political prisoner", this guy would still be picking up the soap

Posted by: kbdabear at June 11, 2012 09:18 AM (Y+DPZ)

64 and Of course, the man that makes my knees weak signed it.. Allen West.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at June 11, 2012 09:18 AM (DGIjM)

65 Is there a link above that shows who signed this letter?
I'm not finding it.


Ummm... yeah.  It's the first link (the letter, complete with signers' names, is reproduced in the article).

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 11, 2012 09:18 AM (8y9MW)

66

This is one more example of the left doing what I would call "spending social capital".  There are certain conventions that make American society different from, say, sub-Sahara Africa or Russia.  Sure, we have a great constitution, but I've come to realize that the social capital is just as, if not more, important.  An example: social capital is what allows an author to go to a book signing without armed guards and a metal detector.  Dropping "glitter bombs" which (until impact) are indistinguishable from a mortal attack rapidly erode this capital.  Pretty soon, there are no more book signings.  The list goes on. 

 

One of the conventions of society is that you don't call the SWAT team on your political enemies.  ItÂ’s such a convention, in fact, that nobody ever needed to tell me or anybody reading this.  We just knew it was wrong.  If “donÂ’t fake SWAT calls against your enemies” is no longer the social convention, but must instead be enforced by the rule of law, with Congressional intervention, then that creates a new bureaucracy to enforce it.  The bureaucratic burden of enforcement will reduce the effectiveness of the SWAT teams.  By burning this bit of social capital, the left will have made us all less safe, not to mention making society less civil. 

 

There is a breaking point to all of this.  Pull enough threads out of the fabric of social capital, and the whole thing unravels.  That is why this is not a minor issue, but a huge step on the road to anarchy.  The blue model is dying, but don't expect it to go quietly.

Posted by: ZBBMcFate at June 11, 2012 09:19 AM (Hj9yW)

67 >>>assuming that they'd ignore any letters and therefore at least claiming they wouldn't send them

Well amongst other things, I sent a letter to my local Donkey.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at June 11, 2012 09:20 AM (0q2P7)

68 What'th wong with picking up the thoap?

Posted by: The "Honorable" Bawney Fwank at June 11, 2012 09:20 AM (x2CNJ)

69 From the first link: "Adams collected a little over 80 House signatures for her letter last Friday afternoon from her colleagues on the House floor during votes, a task rarely accomplished in such a short period of time before the weekend of a recess week. Members are known to dash out of the Capitol after final votes are taken at that particular period."

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at June 11, 2012 09:20 AM (d6QMz)

70 Dems LOVE police, but not enough to step in and help them do their jobs properly.

Posted by: Y-not at June 11, 2012 09:20 AM (5H6zj)

71 I just sent my congress critter a thank you note for signing it.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at June 11, 2012 09:20 AM (DGIjM)

72 Timothy McVeigh! NON-TROVERSY !!!

Posted by: Chuckie's Squirrel Patrol at June 11, 2012 09:20 AM (Y+DPZ)

73 66- Thanks! Er, you wouldn't happen to know where I put my sandwich, would you?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 11, 2012 09:21 AM (C8mVl)

74

Lovely. Kevin Zeese is one of the early Occupy organizers http://tiny.cc/gz0qfw

Posted by: Pedro at June 11, 2012 09:21 AM (NHNJt)

75 Lee Stranahan called the Montgomery County police department and there is NO record of BK being swatted.

Posted by: Anonymous at June 11, 2012 09:21 AM (uMYP4)

76 He got SWATted...in his head.

Either (a) he's hallucinating, or (b) he's trying to set himself up a defense for the inevitable, to say "It wasn't me, it happened to me too!!!1!!!eleventy!!"

Although it being both isn't out of the question.  Bag of cats, etc.

Posted by: Brother Cavil presents at June 11, 2012 09:21 AM (GBXon)

77 OT but just saw a  promo for the new Dallas show.  When did Larry Hagman's eyebrows turn into horns?

Posted by: The at June 11, 2012 09:22 AM (x2CNJ)

78 "Hey, Ron, can you SWAT me as cover? Thanks."

Posted by: nickless at June 11, 2012 09:22 AM (MMC8r)

79

Two Jersey guys (both R's) signed ...None on the list are Dems.

**

**spit**

 

Posted by: dananjcon at June 11, 2012 09:22 AM (eavT+)

80 Maybe the AG who takes over the day Holder gets locked up (with Bawney?) will act on this.

Posted by: Dastardly Dan at June 11, 2012 09:22 AM (rvLeh)

81 Er, you wouldn't happen to know where I put my sandwich, would you?

Not off hand, no.  What kind of sandwich is it?  Just so I can keep an eye out.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 11, 2012 09:22 AM (8y9MW)

82 Brother Cavil, Brett K was obviously out of Cheesey Poofs so called SWAT himself...

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 11, 2012 09:22 AM (WeA4Y)

83 Brett Kimberlin needs to be back in the slammer entertaining well hung bisexual predators.

Posted by: maddogg at June 11, 2012 09:23 AM (OlN4e)

84 You'd think at least one or two would be concerned about tables eventually turning.

Posted by: Citizen jwb7605 enhancing his calm at June 11, 2012 01:02 PM (Qxe/p)



Exactly; Paul Ryan talks a great deal about how he's crafting bi-partisan agreements on budgetary items moving forward.  I'm not calling bullshit on any of those claims at all but I *am* wondering why none of them are emboldened enough to jump on board this.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 11, 2012 09:23 AM (D1HMA)

85 Most of the Kos Krowd seems to be worried about this guy too, but a certain former "conservative" blogger is laughing about it as paranoid wingnuts making shit up

Posted by: kbdabear at June 11, 2012 09:23 AM (Y+DPZ)

86 I didn't see my representative's name on that letter. Pearce (R). I guess I have to write again to ask why.

Posted by: jonsten at June 11, 2012 09:23 AM (cgOkw)

87 OT but just saw a promo for the new Dallas show.

I predict it lasts less than a season.  The entire premise is (really: they've admitted this) to push "green energy."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 11, 2012 09:23 AM (8y9MW)

88 In the "you couldn't make up these names if you tried category"...to the person who asked if he can hold it indefinitely? 


Posted by: faith at June 11, 2012 09:24 AM (oZfic)

89 Well AllenG, JR Ewing was always about green energy.  The almighty dollar is green.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 11, 2012 09:25 AM (WeA4Y)

90 Oh good grief. "The SWATting is coming from inside your house!"

There was also a claim from one of them about how there is no police report from Patterico's supposed SWATtings.

Riiiiight.

I'll see if I can find that quote.

Posted by: Mama AJ at June 11, 2012 09:25 AM (SUKHu)

91 Maybe he had a seizure?

Posted by: Commerce Secretary John Bryson at June 11, 2012 09:26 AM (lTOHz)

92 >>>but a certain former "conservative" blogger is laughing about it as paranoid wingnuts making shit up

Well that's one way to stay safe.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at June 11, 2012 09:26 AM (0q2P7)

93 >>Er, you wouldn't happen to know where I put my sandwich, would you?

It was the cat.

Posted by: Dog with a snootful of mustard at June 11, 2012 09:26 AM (ZKzrr)

94 I see that Buchanan didn't sign the letter even though several members of the FL GOP delegation did, and I wrote his office

I guess he's busy recording some more robocalls


Posted by: kbdabear at June 11, 2012 09:27 AM (Y+DPZ)

95 Darn environmentalists ruin everything, re-casting a classic good vs. evil show based on green energy? Since I am never going to watch, can someone clue me, I am making the assumption that Bobby's offspring is for green energy and JR's is for evil oil, am I right?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at June 11, 2012 09:27 AM (RZ8pf)

96 "What kind of sandwich is it?" Ham and cucumber. Sorry. Kind of girly, I guess. My daughter STOLE it. Now she has to make me another.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 11, 2012 09:27 AM (C8mVl)

97 So they aren't worried about those dangerous right-wing extremist Tea Party types using this tactic?

Yeah, it's almost as if they don't really believe their hateful rhetoric.

Don't get too worked up about who hasn't signed it yet.  This is really inside blog stuff and a lot of Congressmen don't know much about it.  Would you sign it if somebody shoved it under your nose?

Where I see this taking off is at the local level.  All it takes is one local cop to track down a false SWAT call and it's over.

Even if Holder doesn't go after this, it sends a signal to local law enforcement that this is worth pursuing.

Posted by: AmishDude at June 11, 2012 09:28 AM (T0NGe)

98 85 Congressmen is a drop in the ocean, a meaningless gesture, pissing in the ocean, farting in the wind and Yada Yada Yada

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 11, 2012 09:28 AM (05RcU)

99 Well AllenG, JR Ewing was always about green energy. The almighty dollar is green.

Well, yes, but you know that's not what they mean.

People in Texas largely spit when someone mentions "green energy."  We know (as people who get lots and lots of both sun and wind) the limitations of "green energy" and realize better than most that it's never going to work on a large scale.

Corrupting the Ewings to push your Liberal agenda (well, not yours obviously) is not going to sit well.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 11, 2012 09:28 AM (8y9MW)

100
Hey.... Mr Vice President,

THIS is a big effin deal.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 11, 2012 09:28 AM (C8hzL)

101 Too true AllenG.  Liberals always manage to make any Eden a mess.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 11, 2012 09:29 AM (WeA4Y)

102 Here it is.

Comment 10 is a quote about how Patterico CLAIMS to have been SWATted and yet there is no police report.

I guess police reports are harder to find than I ever imagined.

Posted by: Mama AJ at June 11, 2012 09:29 AM (SUKHu)

103 I predict that Green energy will turn very brown once da Zero is given the bum's rush, due to the tendancy for them to bleed red all over the place at an unsustainable rate.

Posted by: maddogg at June 11, 2012 09:30 AM (OlN4e)

104 Perhaps the swat against K was a double-secret-probatory-swat?

Posted by: Infidelswine at June 11, 2012 09:30 AM (Xe/ar)

105

Good work, Sandy Adams! Way to lead the charge!

Posted by: DC Zombie at June 11, 2012 09:30 AM (b96e6)

106

To the extent I think there's *anything* to this (and I'm doubtful), I'd guess that someone called the cops and said something like "You've got a convicted bomber perjuring himself to get people thrown in jail, and you're doing NOTHING about it?!"

Which Kimberlin is then taking to be a "SWATting."<<<<

 

I don't think anything of the sort happened.  According to everything I've read about him, and I've read a lot, he lies even when there's no advantage to him doing so.

 

Remember, he chose to go back to prison for four years to avoid paying the judgment to Carl DeLong's widow.  Do you know how easy it would have been to plead financial hardship, file bankruptcy or to set up a nominal payment plan just to show his willingness to comply?  He traded four years of freedom when he could have bought it on the cheap.

 

This is not a rational player.  Trying to figure out his motives is pointless.  You already know his character; it's safe to assume that whatever he does, it's with the worst of intentions.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 11, 2012 09:30 AM (JDIKC)

107 Remember every now and then these kooks, usually race warriors in academia, claim that they are being harassed by people writing racist things on their doors or on notes. In one case a noose was left on a desk. And they claim persecution, but in the end police discover they did it to themselves. Is Kimberlin that kind of crazy. I would be afraid he would call in a SWATting on himself and blame me.

Posted by: thunderb at June 11, 2012 09:31 AM (Dnbau)

108 I'm not worried about them ruining Dallas.  It was a cultural phenomenon that went off the rails after a while and rebooting it is just an attempt to cash in on the franchise name.

The truth is, with or without environmentalism, they were going to ruin it anyway.  Should've just done a series of prequels.

Posted by: AmishDude at June 11, 2012 09:31 AM (T0NGe)

109 what is upsetting is no d's signed.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at work at June 11, 2012 09:31 AM (4/NTV)

110 I see that the letter was circulated for signing immediately prior to the dismissal of the session prior to the weekend recess.  That may be a reason there are not more signatures on it.  Could be that many congressman had headed out before the letter got passed around.

Posted by: mama winger at June 11, 2012 09:32 AM (P6QsQ)

111 66- Well said. When social capital is spent, all that is left is the barrel of a gun....or chaos. Scary times.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 11, 2012 09:32 AM (C8mVl)

112 I wrote to my Dem rep. He didnt sign.

Posted by: Lauren at June 11, 2012 09:32 AM (5okt3)

113 Seems to me one major issue, that is really a local one, is who are these sherriffs and/or process servers (is that what they're called) who have supposedly delivered the notifications of lawsuits that some folks say they never got (per what ace said in discussion this weekend or last week). I mean, does BK have crooked law enforcement officers or what?

Posted by: Y-not at June 11, 2012 01:12 PM (5H6zj)


In Maryland:
"Service of process may be made by a sheriff or, except as otherwise provided in this Rule, by a competent private person, 18 years of age or older, including an attorney of record, but not by a party to the action."

That person has to sign a form stating that they properly served the documents as required. However, it's a common tactic to serve the papers using the last known address even if one knows that's not where they now live. The litigant and the server are not required to investigate (they may request forwarding or address service from the USPS) where the defendant currently lives. Also anyone at that address who accepts the papers whether or not they're the defendant or a relative or acquaintance signs for the papers but may or may not forward them to the defendant.

The only out for someone who didn't get properly served is to go to court and try to get the default judgment vacated due to improper service. They have to show that the plaintiff knew where they were or that service was defective in some way. All that just restarts the whole ball game. The suit with discovery and interrogatories and requests for evidence is still on and can be expensive, nerve wracking and time consuming.

Those who do this don't care whether they win or not because winning the suit or not is not the aim. The aim is to cause the defendant to lose time, money, sleep whatever to the point that they might agree to settle the suit and then not ever blog or comment again. Or to divulge information that would open others to lawsuits. At least that's what it appears is the case.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at June 11, 2012 09:32 AM (CP+yl)

114 It has been said that these spoofed calls cannot be traced.
Not true. Nothing is truly anonymous.

Posted by: Beto at June 11, 2012 09:33 AM (lpWVn)

115

"I predict it lasts less than a season. The entire premise is (really: they've admitted this) to push "green energy.""

 

Dallas : TNG will be about how the Ewings all make fistfulls of dollars installing a T. Boone Pickens-style windfarms?

 

Good grief.  Yup.  10 episodes, max.

 

Will the intro feature someone pulling up the mansion in a Smart FourTwo with longhorns on the nose?

Posted by: reason at June 11, 2012 09:33 AM (CGjum)

116 Good work Ace.

Posted by: Journolist at June 11, 2012 09:33 AM (+RHBa)

117 I find it more likely that Holder is providing cover to the SWATters then that he would investigate them.

Posted by: real joe at June 11, 2012 09:33 AM (hZHuW)

118 The Department of Super-Secret Exonerations has all the records of Kimberlin's SWATting. Duh!

Posted by: Andy at June 11, 2012 09:36 AM (3cHSb)

119 Well isn't Kimberlin getting money from Soros? How do we know Soros isn't using Kimberlin's natural proclivities to stifle conservative speech? Not that Kimberlin isn't a psycho, but his reappearance now, doing what he is doing, is no accident.

Posted by: thunderb at June 11, 2012 09:37 AM (Dnbau)

120 Don't get too worked up about who hasn't signed it yet. This is really inside blog stuff and a lot of Congressmen don't know much about it. Would you sign it if somebody shoved it under your nose?

Posted by: AmishDude at June 11, 2012 01:28 PM

That's why I said that letters to Congressmen don't usually work unless it's accompanied by heavy coverage in the MBM or a 60 Minutes segment, then the "my God we have to DO SOMETHING" urge kicks in

Do you think all these junk food regulations and hearings came about because people wrote their congressmen?

Posted by: kbdabear at June 11, 2012 09:37 AM (Y+DPZ)

121 #114, Beto this problem with 911 systems has been known since at least 2007.  The call systems need to be upgraded to inform operators the call is coming in via an IP address.  Estimate to upgrade each system was quoted at $5,000.  Would have been a good use of Stimulus cash.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 11, 2012 09:37 AM (WeA4Y)

122
Justin..... bro.....

Too far man...... too far.

Posted by: Joseph "Tell a Big Lie" Goebbels at June 11, 2012 09:37 AM (C8hzL)

123

my "R" didn't sign it!  time for a follow up.....

Posted by: the Butcher at June 11, 2012 09:38 AM (8g9qq)

124 101 Too true AllenG. Liberals always manage to make any Eden a mess.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 11, 2012 01:29 PM (WeA4Y)

**

Aha...Because of Libs we can't have nice things!! I knew it!

 

Posted by: dananjcon at June 11, 2012 09:38 AM (eavT+)

125 The Dallas remake will go about as far as the Knight Rider remake did

Massive FAIL

Posted by: kbdabear at June 11, 2012 09:38 AM (Y+DPZ)

126 Mark Steyn's column on the obtuse judge is brilliant. Oh yes. Momentum is growing on this through legal channels and visibility.

Posted by: Journolist at June 11, 2012 09:39 AM (+RHBa)

127 Anyone know where Kimberlin's family got/gets their money? I hear he's wealthy but that's it.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 11, 2012 09:39 AM (HethX)

128 Who was that feller that was tweeting dic-pics to underage girls?  Yeah, he was swatted too, - by his own pimp hand of justice.

Posted by: Fritz at June 11, 2012 09:39 AM (ZN5qR)

129 Dallas : TNG will be about how the Ewings all make fistfulls of dollars installing a T. Boone Pickens-style windfarms?

Yep, more or less.  At least, that's my understanding.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 11, 2012 09:41 AM (8y9MW)

130 We do not support this nor does our Congressman...We loves Pres Bama...

Posted by: The People of Brattleboro, Vermont at June 11, 2012 09:41 AM (48wze)

131 I hear he's wealthy but that's it.

I believe (but don't know for sure) that it comes from having smuggled "tons and tons" of drugs before getting caught.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 11, 2012 09:42 AM (8y9MW)

132 I think the "he" in the proverb should be capitalized.  I am an atheist myself but it makes what is being said easier to follow if you use the correct convention.

If Kimberlin and company were smart they would withdraw all pending suits and go dark until everything blows over a few years down the road.  But if they were truly smart they would never have started any of this anyway.  Typically the people who do this sort of stuff have so little self-control and so little grasp of reality that they can't help themselves.

Posted by: Some Pissant Pedant at June 11, 2012 09:42 AM (c8WV/)

133 Longtime Lurker here.... I just emailed my Rep. which would be Fleming here in Louisiana.  I'm surprised he wasn't on there, but hopefully if another letter has to be signed he'll know what the hell is going on. 

Posted by: HungryKitteh at June 11, 2012 09:43 AM (+SXKV)

134 127 Mark Steyn's column on the obtuse judge is brilliant.

Oh yes. Momentum is growing on this through legal channels and visibility. Posted by: Journolist at June 11, 2012 01:39 PM

Here's Steyn's column;

Bozo The Jurist

http://tinyurl.com/868mg4e

Posted by: kbdabear at June 11, 2012 09:43 AM (Y+DPZ)

135 I find it more likely that Holder is providing cover to the SWATters then that he would investigate them.

Kimberlin clearly has VERY high level protection.  This is a scandal that could dwarf Watergate when fully exposed.

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at June 11, 2012 09:43 AM (nvNNU)

136 About as far as the knight rider remake . . . Do not hassle the Hoff.

Posted by: Kit at June 11, 2012 09:44 AM (Xe/ar)

137 This is a scandal that could dwarf Watergate when fully exposed.

Yeah, but it kind of pales in comparison to Fast & Furious- and how much coverage/outrage is that receiving?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 11, 2012 09:44 AM (8y9MW)

138 Small item for correction Ace: Kerri Picket wrote the article. Unless she got engaged or something I think you just got your wires crossed based on the Congressman's last name.

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at June 11, 2012 09:44 AM (oipCQ)

139 Here's Steyn's column; Bozo The Jurist http://tinyurl.com/868mg4e Posted by: kbdabear at June 11, 2012 01:43 PM (Y+DPZ) Thanks kdba!

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at June 11, 2012 09:45 AM (oipCQ)

140

"My local paper still publishes the police's blotter report. Does Bethesda?"

 

Volunteers stream police-scanner radio feeds so that others can listen in online.  I have an Android app that lets me pick a city - any city more or less - and listen in.  Some of the bigger cities even have archives of the daily broadcasts over the last couple months.

 

I'm betting it wouldn't be THAT HARD for someone to take the time and find an archive of the relevant police radio broadcast(s).

 

Heck, even ask the pilot for the camera chopper for any of the local TV stations.  Might only be anecdotal evidence, but I  imagine they (or someone they know) keep an ear on the police scanner  most of the day, listening for any good calls that they might need to  go get ready and cover.  An all-hands, Code One, shooting in progress (and all the associated chatter as the event unfolded) would have gotten noticed.

Posted by: reason at June 11, 2012 09:46 AM (CGjum)

141 >>I just emailed my Rep. which would be Fleming here in Louisiana

Howdy, neighbor!

Yeh, I'm overdue for sending a note to him and Vitter.

Posted by: Mama AJ at June 11, 2012 09:47 AM (SUKHu)

142 All I can say is the same thing we sometimes say about President Obama: the BALLS of this guy!

Seriously...does he think making a fake (and easily disprovable) claim of SWATing will deceive anyone?

Posted by: Jeff B. at June 11, 2012 09:47 AM (FCfv5)

143 132 I hear he's wealthy but that's it.

I believe (but don't know for sure) that it comes from having smuggled "tons and tons" of drugs before getting caught.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 11, 2012 01:42 PM (8y9MW)

**

His father was a hot shot lawyer.

Posted by: dananjcon at June 11, 2012 09:48 AM (eavT+)

Posted by: Heidi at June 11, 2012 09:49 AM (hGRh5)

Posted by: Heidi at June 11, 2012 09:50 AM (hGRh5)

146 when you have Leaders that openly say the other party are enemies . enemies made up of millions of american citizens,  that basically ignore , call names , threaten and heckle those citizens what does one expect of their followers?

Posted by: willow at June 11, 2012 09:50 AM (TomZ9)

147

"The Dallas remake will go about as far as the Knight Rider remake did"

 

HAHAAAA!   Didn't they only make the pilot for that?  Knight Rider 2000 or something, if I recall.

 

Wasn't KITT  red  for the remake?  I remember at one point, Michael asked for "virtual reality mode" which made a crappy CG HUD show up on the windshield.

 

Having grown up on a steady diet of Speed Racer and the original Knight Rider reruns, I was the biggest, dorkiest hybrid of car junkie and tech junkie as a kid when that show came  out.  Even I thought it was sucky.

Posted by: reason at June 11, 2012 09:52 AM (CGjum)

148 37 Remember morons. Enhance You Calm!   ------------   Enhance we much!  

Posted by: Anachronda at June 11, 2012 10:01 AM (xGZ+b)

149

I  will  contact   Rep.  Sam  Graves  and  urge  him  to  sign  this   letter. 

 

I  hope  those  guilty  of   this  abuse  are  prosecuted  to  the  fullest  extent  of  the  law.

 

In   my   opinion,   a   short,  skinny,   blond   white   guy  would  have  been   frequently  raped  in  prison,  possibly  hundreds  of  times  over  the  years.   That  makes  me  smile.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at June 11, 2012 10:06 AM (6BgmB)

150 135 127
Mark Steyn's column on the obtuse judge is brilliant.



Oh yes. Momentum is growing on this through legal channels and visibility.

Posted by: Journolist at June 11, 2012 01:39 PM

  ------------   Here's Steyn's column;

Bozo The Jurist

  http://tinyurl.com/868mg4e

 

Posted by: kbdabear at June 11, 2012 01:43 PM (Y+DPZ)

 

------------- 

 

Woah.....the judge, Judge Vaughey, said that.... "When someone did something up there to you, your sister, your girlfriend, you got some friends to take them for a ride in the back of the truck."

 

That is surreal.

What this judge said, is the same sort of "actionable" remark that BK was using as his reason for wanting a 'Peace Order'.

Un-freakin-believable.

Posted by: wheatie at June 11, 2012 10:12 AM (/V8D4)

151 Wasn'tKITT red for the remake?

Yes, because they went with a Ford Mustang when GM stopped production of the Pontiac Trans Am.  Sad but true.

Will Arnett was also the voice of KITT who replaced Val Kilmer when he was dropped/forced out.

Posted by: EC at June 11, 2012 10:12 AM (GQ8sn)

152

151.......italics fail

Posted by: wheatie at June 11, 2012 10:13 AM (/V8D4)

153 Its not that hard to narrow it down to his address when asking the police if there were any calls. His moms house is listed as his address on the 901 c papers. Or check "Saberpoint gentle advice for Kimberlin"

Posted by: Up with people! at June 11, 2012 10:15 AM (iYvMQ)

154 Mine Congressman signed it - Jaime Herrera Beutler (R-WA)

BTW - She is SMOKIN' HOT!!!

Posted by: Mjölnir the banhammer at June 11, 2012 10:30 AM (Jls4P)

155 BTW - She is SMOKIN' HOT!!!

I just google image'd her.

Yes.

Posted by: EC at June 11, 2012 10:32 AM (GQ8sn)

156

Not a single Democrat sign the letter? As the request itself is apolitical (or should be), what exactly is the Democrat's response as to why this matter is not worthy of DOJ investigation?

Is there a DNC official position?

Posted by: Prindle at June 11, 2012 10:44 AM (2Ynt1)

157 >>>BTW - She is SMOKIN' HOT!!!


She looks like she could be Kim Reaver's older sister (She played Jack Bauer's GF in a couple of seasons of 24 and was on Grey's Anatomy)

Posted by: Dave C at June 11, 2012 10:49 AM (PARWA)

158

Well hello back to ya, MammaAJ!  I'm here in the heart of Shreveport. 

Back when Fleming was running for the first time and he had 2 or 3 Republicans trying for the seat as well at the time, he came to a Medical Society dinner and sat right next to me for the entire dinner (my hubby is a doc).  I talked to him quite a bit, but I kept thinking at the time that the guy didn't have a chance at winning.  Huh... who knew?  I can say this, I do know how he honestly feels about the individual mandate....  but lets just say that at least he's been voting in the right way, as far as I know anyway...

 

Posted by: HungryKitteh at June 11, 2012 10:55 AM (+SXKV)

159

"85 Congressmen Sign Letter Urging Holder To Investigate SWATtings"

that's great news, i hope the next attorney general follows up, cause the present cocksucker won't

Posted by: ugly kid joe at June 11, 2012 10:57 AM (TI0ge)

160 Is everyone still ok with the militarization of civilian law enforcement?

Posted by: blindside at June 11, 2012 11:14 AM (x7g7t)

161 If the cops go to Kimberlin's house it's the real thing.

Posted by: torabora at June 11, 2012 11:32 AM (MRq/n)

162

When some friends and I were exposing and reporting pedophiles on YouTube a few years back, a few of the smarter ones would create sock puppet accounts disguising themselves as anti-pedophile activists and then attack their own primary, overtly pedophile accounts as well as other, high-profile pedophiles such as Nigel Oldfield, the publicity-seeking convicted child molester from Yorkshire, or the 40-year-old pedo from Toledo who called himself Logansperman2. By attacking themselves, they could then allay suspicion and play the Protector of Children role and use these 'anti-pedophile' accounts to ingratiate themselves with trusting (and often unsupervised) children. It gets convoluted, I know, but the same principle is at work here.

 

If there are any doubts about Kimberlin being involved in this SWATing tactic or even originating it himself, his own claims of SWATing should dispel it. He gives himself away. Kimberlin and his few close associates (whose names escape me at the moment) are behind it for sure. Kimberlin's confirmed it. And, of course, he wants us to know he's behind it. He thinks he's the Moriarity of the Left or some shit: untouchable and unbeatable, too smart to be caught and held accountable. I'm here to tell you he isn't, no more so than any other low-rent predator like Oldfield, who thought he was untouchable and unreachable, too; that is, until his police-sealed home and work address information somehow suddenly became public knowledge and emailed to every adult sex-abuse survivor's group in England.

Posted by: troyriser at June 11, 2012 11:32 AM (vtiE6)

163 Kimberlin SWATed himself....the cops laughed after hanging up the phone and went back to watching Hawaii5O reruns.

Posted by: What Actually Happened at June 11, 2012 11:43 AM (MRq/n)

164 Here's a disturbing thought that just occurred to me:

If I were Eric Holder, I would jump at the opportunity to discuss anything other than Fast and Furious and hundreds of dead Mexicans killed in a scheme to roll back second amendment rights.

"What's that you say?  'Who farted'?  Why, that was me, and in fact I'm pretty sure I pooped myself a little bit.  Let's focus on that for a while, shall we?"

In fact, I could imagine Eric Holder being so desperate to bring something else to the fore that he might ask a liberal activist, a little-known cog in the crony/political patronage system who happens to have a history of dirty tricks and shenanigans, to get something started.  And we'd all be playing into their hands, the farther down this road we go.

Or am I being paranoid?

Posted by: Pastafarian at June 11, 2012 12:28 PM (ffv4E)

165 Here's an idea - from here on out, criticize Holder at will, but say or do nothing in prosecutorial terms. Once Obie is voted out and he leaves the White House in January, let the investigations begin, and prosecute to the fullest extent of the law.

A note for the next president: NO PARDONS.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at June 11, 2012 12:29 PM (4s7w4)

166 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at June 11, 2012 03:00 PM (Xb3hu)

167 Good to see Amodai sign the letter. Dissapointed that Heck didn't. Looks like I'll be sending out another round of letters! I encourage everyone who has a Congressman who didn't sign to write a physical letter to 'em to encourage them to do so.

Posted by: The Political Hat at June 11, 2012 03:21 PM (XvHmy)

168 The ball is rolling Ace. Keep up the good work.

Posted by: WeWhoLurk at June 11, 2012 07:48 PM (gW5fI)

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