Reading at this morning's mass:

Do everything without grumbling or questioning,
that you may be blameless and innocent,
children of God without blemish
in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation,
among whom you shine like lights in the world,
as you hold on to the word of life,
so that my boast for the day of Christ may be
that I did not run in vain or labor in vain.

LauraW,

You forgot the Dow tanking as list of evidence.  I'm worried about my fiancial future, my friends are worried about their futures. Explain how I'm supposed to go all "What me worry?" again?

No offense, but seriously folks - the GOP is the problem, nothing more. 2010 proved something taught in politics 101; that one must have something to run "for" against an incumbent. Merely being "against" isn't enough, and the GOP has long run out of ideas (other than "we aren't democrats).

The #'s and "excitement" numbers are not a conundrum, and are easily explained: those "against" the current admininstration were highly motivated themselves, and broadcast that fact, but they did nothing to bring anyone else to the booth. Give me something to vote for and I'll show up - and platitudes/couched threats @ the "future" are not an obvious reason.

Deal w/that truth.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 07, 2012 10:16 AM (vCK/R)

It's a complicated process, but here goes:

You can fuggedaboutit.

How do you divorce your country?

There are two halves in this country, the half that works and the half that takes. It's time for the half that works to leave and start something new.

In 1861 this nation went to war with itself over the question of whether or not one man was entitled to the fruits of another man's labor. That question was supposedly decided, yet here we are today, 146 years later, asking the same question. Oddly enough, the same party that supported the entitlement then is the same party that supports the entitlement now.

Facing reality is not about coming unhinged. America has crossed the Rubicon and there is no going back.  I expect 3 Supreme Court picks in the next 4 years and one of them will replace a conservative.  The takers have finally out numbered the producers. 

Our cultural morality ,which included individual responsibility and was the backbone of America and what separated us from other countries appears to be dead. 

I've always been an optimist but I also never was a fool.

>>>I no longer can see or stand the color blue.

You can thank Asshole Gore for that. It used to alternate.

Anyone going to send some more cash donations to help out those Sandy victims?

I didn't think so.

Anyone want to help me navigate the process of getting a gun license in NYC?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 07, 2012 10:16 AM (vCK/R)

If you have connections to a sheriff in one of your counties you can probaly fanagle one.

"Our natures are far more hardy than that, we are far tougher than the other side and we will be back."

You can charge a machine gun nest and have a chance.  You can get behind the wheel after a 6 pack and have a chance.  You can put all your money on #7 on the Roulette wheel and have a chance. 

You can't tempt math.

Posted by: Mo the Girl at November 07, 2012 10:13 AM (BqGFc)

come on down

Rick Perry 2013... Republic of Texas

Need to get Lockheed-Martin building a bunch of F-16's for TANG ASAP

I just sent an email to my Son who is Active Duty Navy in Guam.... aplogizing for my Generation...

My Father belonged to the Greatest Generation.... I belong to the stupidest.

Posted by: alexthechick at November 07, 2012 10:14 AM (Gk3SS)

So, how big a shake can I get from Chick Fil A? Do they come in gallons?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 07, 2012 10:27 AM (UOM4

That pretty much sums it up for me.  I'm finished.  I just need to figure out how to implement that thought.

This country had a great run.

I posted this on another thread very late last night, so apologies if you've already seen it.

Did everyone forget about the Mayan Calendar for Pete's sake? It 2012. It's the apocalypse, and Obama is one of the four horsemen.

Seriously, though, I've been thinking about this for some time now. For those of you not spiritually or biblically thinking, I apologize, but Obama represents the spirit of the world right now. Every cultural context point in our society, from the media to entertainment to educational institutions reinforces it. Why do so many people just conform to the liberal assumptions about the world? Because it is so pervasive, and most people just want to conform. They think they are being so hip and cool, and individual, but they aren't. They are just conforming to the spirit of the world. Someone up thread brought up a good point about Christian conservatives as they were once known no longer exist, because the mega churches have pretty much embraced the liberation theology and socialism. I know lots of Christians who voted for Obama. They hate abortion, but they love redistribution of wealth (caring for the poor and hungry) more. They don't even realize they are being used as useful idiots by the Marxists. They think they are righting the wrongs of the past. And the more they move away from the traditional codes of behavior as encouraged by all the external cultural cues of media and entertainment, the more they accept. A case in point is the way homosexuality is treated. No longer is it an act, it is an identity. Not only do we accept it, but every show on TV has a homosexual character. It's not enough to accept it, nor is it enough to embrace it, no, we must glorify it. This is the spirit of the world now. This is where we are. This is the world that elects such a Marxist posing as an empty suit. Because he is so cool. Because every cultural clue encourages it. Because people desire to conform to the present spirit of the world.

This is why reaching out to minorities and the youth and white women will not work. These things that we understand and know are rejected by the spirit of the world. I know we have lots of atheists here, but the truth is, this is God's will. We are reaping the repercussons of being a perverse and lawless generation. And for my fellow Christians, I would just like to point out that all the Christians who thought or think they will not embrace the antiChrist, they need to look no further than what happened last night. There is no beter example of a person who embodies the spirit of the world, it is Obama and the Dems.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 07, 2012 10:28 AM (ZPrif)

Hmmm.... a Conservative Economic Network?  somthing like Linked In but for Known Conservative Business?  So you can choose who to do business with?

Government can't do it... but it should fly under Freedom of Association, at least until they ignore that part of the Constitution.

Posted by: Caedryn at November 07, 2012 10:25 AM (Pfei6)

Caedryn...if you were in premedical, you must be a smart cookie.

Take a Pell Grant, go to a community college, and look into nursing school. In two years you will have a good income. After a semester or two, with training, you can work in a hospital as a nurse's aide.

I am a RN. I taught at an community college. Two year RN's make about the same amount of money as those with a bachelor's degree (which I have). You take the same state boards of nursing. The only advantage for a bachelor's is some jobs require it. Once you have your Associate's degree, you can often get your bachelor's or masters through the hospital you work for. There will always be work for nurses.

My blessings and hope to you for a better future. Do not give up.

Shee-it! Buck the fuck up ladies and gents! it's time to stop whining and nut up. I feel like speechifying like the late great Senator Blutarsky fer Chrissakes. Pearl Harbor and all that. Best line of the night seen on AOSHQ; Susan Estrictchch put down her Pall Mall and Cutty highball long enough to appear on Fox. someone asked why Carol Channing was on that station.Outstanding.

We need a plan.

First cancel any lib paper, block MSM on tv and comp., stop supporting those that advertise on their stations, if you can afford it get a subscription to BlazeTV, start your own e-mail letter (weekly or monthly) filling everyone in on the truth that isn't being reported, get involved in schools, local gov, etc.

Take this anger and disappointment and fight for your country.

How many of you gave time to make calls, go door to door, volunteered to watch the polls, go to churches, etc?

Call your local GOP and have them compare their strkie list numbers with those of your state's elec. numbers.

Start writing op ed filled with the truth, not opinions, etc

When need to educate the masses.

Start a 'true news' group at church, etc.

Posted by: Auntie Doodles at November 07, 2012 10:33 AM (JcN7j)

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I've been saying this for years.  Thank you.

This is also the reason I thought all along, though I never said it here, that Obama would take the election.

Posted by: edj at November 07, 2012 10:29 AM (+QKfp)

I am quite skilled at this...have yet to hear a speech. He is going to go down in flames...it is just a matter of time. I will tune in then.

Posted by: Paul at November 07, 2012 10:38 AM (xwVUV)

  I do and you are right. We now have the highest taxes in the Country...

These things that we understand and know are rejected by the spirit of the world.

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Yes. Narcissism, hubris and egotism. That's the spirit of this world. That is why our nation rejected two righteous men to lead them.

"Let it burn" my ASS!

I'm throwing gas on it.

@126

Been boycoting O for years. Unofficially. I just can't stand his cadence or accent.

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at November 07, 2012 10:37 AM (IPG9V)

This may be true, Jenny. I am in Floriduh, land of 1/2 idiots who vote (D) and still cannot count votes. There are plenty of nursing jobs here. I am retired, but I figure there will always be healthcare jobs, especially under the wunderbar Obamacare that has raised our premiums for next year.

I'm going to see if I can buy a machine and just install it in my kitchen.

I bet those hate shakes taste really good with liquor added.

Arizona is going to need help. Mexico to the south, Mexifornia to the west, not-so-New Mexico to the east. Utah is the only thing connecting us to real America.

And we are about to get over-run with amnesty seekers.

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 07, 2012 10:39 AM (9+ccr)

Yes, but...think of the CHILDRRRRRREN!

Honestly, CA has the stupidest voters on Earth.  High Speed Rail to Nowhere?  YES!  More Jerry Brown?  YES!  Higher taxes on the most taxed state in the nation, when businesses are already leaving in droves? YES!!

I've lived here all my life and can barely believe what I'm seeing.

Posted by: Mac at November 07, 2012 10:35 AM (0J18b)

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Carol Channing is much cuter and has nicer wigs.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 07, 2012 10:43 AM (pwyhn)

  Couldn't agree more. We would leave but our Children and Grand Children, and 95 year old Mother in law all live here. 

Posted by: Portnoy at November 07, 2012 10:45 AM (A5Abh)

  Short and to the point.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 07, 2012 10:49 AM (VgTUv)

  Cry and quit...

Posted by: burned cut-loop at November 07, 2012 10:51 AM (jo069)

  Oh shit, now I'm even more depressed... Holder is still Attorney General

Posted by: jewells45 at November 07, 2012 10:49 AM (1hNQS)

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Spray some goo-gone on it, let it soak in for a minute, then take a blow dryer on a low setting and scrape it off with a credit card.

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu faces an even more awkward time with Washington and re-energized critics at home who accused him on Wednesday of backing the loser in the U.S. presidential election.

Facing his own re-election battle in January, polls give Netanyahu little chance of losing but perceptions that he has mishandled Israel's main ally have been seized on by opponents.

Yeah, it's all Bibi's fault

Is God with him?

Posted by: Jack J at November 07, 2012 10:53 AM (Qgggl)

No, I hold that contract.....

Posted by: Jack J at November 07, 2012 10:53 AM (Qgggl)

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No, God lives in the penthouse. The basement tenant is the one protecting preazy.

Posted by: burned cut-loop at November 07, 2012 10:54 AM (jo069)

 More bad news... Supreme Court Justices...Ocare goes into full swing, and Jan. taxes go up... Have a nice day... Sorry I said that Just letting it all out...

"We're bigger than this. Our natures are far more hardy than that, we are far tougher than the other side and we will be back."

Individually, perhaps.  But as a movement, we have been out-bred by the Free Shit Army.

Demographically, we're fucked.  Oh, and there will be blood.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 07, 2012 10:58 AM (/eBe

And then have a moderator, who can look at Ratings and such.... to ensure it was not a bunch of fake ratings...

Posted by: jewells45 at November 07, 2012 10:49 AM (1hNQS)

Depends...if its a GM - some C4,  Fisker - A good soaking  should do

In 2016, I want to go to battle with someone who inspires.  I'm tired of these lame moderate candidates.  I want someone with some conviction.  Rubio 2016.  Let's roll.

<i>The GOP is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.</i>

Here and there a few GOP candidates blew it, but sadly, most performed splendidly. Slightly more than half the public in the USA, like the slightly more than half the public in France who threw Sarkozy out, are clusterfucks of miserable failure, who want their welfare and to put anything in their mouths, vags, anuses, or veins without consequences.

Time to dust off "How To Prosper During The Coming Bad Years" because thde stagflation of the 1970's will return.

Posted by: Dave S. at November 07, 2012 11:01 AM (UvR6d)

At the first uptick, if there is one, I'm pulling everything out. I guess it will sit in cash

Yes, his name was Franklin Delano Roosevelt  Posted by: kbdabear at November 07, 2012 10:57 AM (wwsoB)

Good point.  I'm about as shocked as I was when Putin or Chavez won reelection.

Come to think of it, I don't recall a communist ever losing an election.

<i> Fuck the Tea Party. There, I said it.

The idiots keep giving us retarded, gaffe-prone nominees who go on to lose without learning from past mistakes.

Leaderless grassroots efforts don't work. </i>

"Leaders" without a grassroots behind them don't work either.

The Tea Party Movement, like many fledgling movements, is learning.

58 BTW, what does 'living off the grid' mean, and how do I get started?

You'll soon learn how; I've already started.  So long, friends, it's been fun being here for the most part.  Take care of yourselves.

ABC Radio news just now:     Sell off on Wall Street caused by turmoil in Europe and Congression gridlock.

I guess the election of Fuckhead had no impact at all.   Well done chumps.

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 07, 2012 11:04 AM (9+ccr)

MFM: NEVER!!!

<i> You can say people were stupid or duped, but they had access to the information, if they chose to look for it. They didn't. They didn't care. They picked contraception and gay marriage over jobs and a strong economy. The takers beat the makers. They deserve what they get. Unfortunately we get a big helping of the shit they're going to be served too.</i>

THIS. There is a large %age of the public who just want the "Freedom" to put anything in their mouths, vaginas, anuses, or veins without consequence, and then the "Freedom" to demand care when the inevitable consequences occur. 

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 07, 2012 11:05 AM (l3vZN)

That's Reuters' story too. It's all Congress and Europe's fault. Because God knows Barry's re-election should have caused the market to jump 1,000 points

its about what does it say about America that a man like Obama can get re-elected  Posted by: kj at November 07, 2012 11:06 AM (qEts0)

I got the same feeling when I noticed people really do watch the "X-Factor". 

124 "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury."

The full quote adds a cautionary note at the end:

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.”

; margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;" class="MsoNormal">24There is no more "national debt.' There is only the "Obama debt." By the end of his second term, more than half of the debt will have been accrued under President Obama. The debt will belong to him and the Democratic party.

Say it with me: "Obama Debt"

Posted by: Daryl Herbert

There is no way anyone will lend what he can spend.

I'm beginning to think that the voting group in this country has a bad case of "Ignorance can be cured, but stupid is forever."

Does not bode well for the future.

227 Add to your list Bob Kerry got his ass sent back to New York by Nebraska.  The numbers were fairly large. It helped my keep a smile on my face while I was puking my guts out that we have another 4 years of that enema sucking narcisist.

I'm done with TV and Hollywood.  I canceled Netflix, cable, and Xbox live this morning.  I refuse to feed any of them any of my income even indirectly by watching advertisements.  I'm done willingly giving any money to any union company or any company based in a blue state.

Feeling a bit like John Paul Jones.  I have not yet begun to fight.  The fat lady is stretching her vocal chords but it ain't over yet.

Posted by: Berserker at November 07, 2012 11:07 AM (FMbng)

Know someone who applied for FEMA in NJ what a clusterfuck. If I understand her correctly they will give money to make repairs so the structure is the same as before the flood. They will not allow money to spent on making her home flood proof. Municipalities are having the same problem with replacing storm drains etc. Only money for same system. They are not allowed to make improvements which would be more flood proof. Thank you Christie and Obama for all those empty words about ending red tape.

Does it make me less of a man to have just given my laughing, giggling 2 year old a hug and shedding a tear or 2 while silently saying sorry? Damn the democrats for what they have done to this country
Posted by: Red Shirt at November 07, 2012 10:07 AM (FIDMq)

No it does not. It makes you a loving father. I for one don't have children but I weep for those that do for they will have to bear the burden. I weep for all those who have given their lives for this country. I weep for those who have given their live for others so that they may have, if it's  only a taste, freedom. I weep for those who grasp at the dangling carrot for they know not what they have done. Today I weep.

<i>One of the worst things about losing is having to hear stupid pundits saying stupid shit as to why Romney lost. Idiot on Fox says Romney lost because he did not pander enough to Hispanics.</i>

THIS too. Why is Karl Rove thought of as a genius, when his Hispandering and his tolerance of entitlement spending led to the GOP disaster of 2006, undoing the hard earned gains of 1994 and previous years?

"n2016, I want to go to battle with someone who inspires. I'm tired of these lame moderate candidates. I want someone with some conviction. Rubio 2016. Let's roll."

Nah, let's have a GOP that rolls out candidates who get the deer in headlamps look when asked "When did you stop beating your wife?" That'll drum up the support!

When your current slate pulls in 5+ million fewer votes than the least "popular" of the past 20 years, you've got a problem. GOP, heal thyself.

Posted by: Vic at November 07, 2012 11:13 AM (YdQQY)

  I agree. R/R ran a good campaign It's not the dumbfucks who elected obama it was the media. They covered up and lied  for obama, and spent their time attacking Romney with false charges...Bain. didn't pay taxes. only for the rich, dog on roof etc...Benghazi? They never heard of it. Fast and Furious What?..

Posted by: Y-not at November 07, 2012 11:16 AM (5H6zj)

He would be partying but his blow up doll is out of air and his lips are tired from blowing Barry all night

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 07, 2012 11:17 AM (/eBe

papers 30, 31, and 32

Posted by: TD at November 07, 2012 11:11 AM (DQMcq)

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You won't need to, Christie will switch to donk before the election.

Whoever came up with the idea for a conservative "Angies List", I like that idea....it could work. I'm no longer willing to support businesses that support liberal causes.

Hell, I think it would be fun watching those same businesses trying to survive primarily off a customer base consisting of obama-phone users.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket

I like the idea as well.  Any entertainment, news, products that are liberal based will not get any of my shrinking paycheck.

 "More than that, it was Rove's idea for Bush to let the MFM define everything for 8 years and never push back on it. That nearly lost him the election in '04 to what I will charitably describe as a novelty candidate, and it set up the MFM's ability to determine the '08 and '12 elections"

An accurate assessment lost (sadly) on many. The price for the total, reckless, and foolish abdication of the bully pulpit has barely been paid in the past two national elections. Allowing one's opponent to define one = already lost.

Whew!  I'm sure glad that the war on us Wimminz is over!!!  Its abortion on demand time and the suckers that are the workers/producers get to pay for it! And if I choose to be a skank they can pay for my bc as well!

Posted by: harleycowboy at November 07, 2012 11:15 AM (+9AX9)

I don't have children either.  I have some advice for those who do.  Cut way back on all their extra-curricular activities that do not promote their future in academics.  They need to do sports to learn teamwork, but, they really need to be strong in math and reading.  I am taking a couple of graduate degree classes in Data Mining from Oklahoma State University.  Those classes are 90% Eastern Indian and a few Chinese--all here on student visas.  All they do is study, that is what they were trained to do.  They dominate the classes.  So the American kids who want to party and worry about the 'Pokes chances of beating the Sooners cannot compete.

(originally posted on the wrong thread)

Trying to understand what the fuck happened.

In my own little world, here's the numbers formy small precinct in south central Michigan:
2008 - 52.04% voter participation
2012 - 78.53% (67/31 for Romney)

For a predominantly black area nearby:
2008 - 31.45% voter participation
2012 - 31.91% (86/12 for Obama)

For a bible-thumping evangelical area nearby:
2008 - 48.29% voter participation
2012 - 74.37% (68/30 for Romney)

What is impossible to understand is the vote downticket. Our county went for Mitt 52%/46%. We went 56%/40% for the bible-thumping representative (R), but on the senate vote, it went 52%/44% for the democrat cow Stabenow. What the fuck?

We're all vaginas now......

Lay back, relax,..... and enjoy the fucking. 

Posted by: Jones in CO at November 07, 2012 11:28 AM (8sCoq)

Undecided voters: You rang?

Posted by: drowningpuppies at November 07, 2012 11:28 AM (012vu)

Sandy Fuck: That's my line

I laid out my sob story in past threads, so here's some incredible unexpected news - old pal of mine from the Marines contacted me out of the blue today to tell me that his company is getting ready to hire a bunch of techs and he needs my resume so he can help me get hired.  Job's based in Texas (never thought I'd say this, but....score!) and is almost double my current salary.  Just when I was losing all hope I have a ray of sunshine.

Now, for the hard part - I haven't worked as a tech since leaving the Marines almost 7 years ago (did radar maintenance and repair).  I remember Ohm's law and that's about it.  Anyone have any pointers or ideas for a major refreshing of my skills/knowledge?  I can't fuck this up, this could be my last shot at turning my family's fortunes around.  My pal is reliable as a rock - if he thinks he can get me on board, he's not blowing smoke up my ass, so my concern is making sure I'm in a position to succeed in this job.  I should be able to do it, as three guys I knew from active duty landed jobs with this company and have done very well.  Just gotta buckle down and re-learn some stuff.

"He wasn't actually a "dipshit loser". He was the Secretary of State for two terms.He clearly wasn't ready for national office if he couldn't give a simple, clear answer to an obvious question that he had to have known was coming."

  Again, exactly correct. I can only imagine that somewhere in George Snufflupiglus's little brain there's a spark of "I can't believe they fell for that" - the vapid stupidity of the GOP is... overwhelming.

Democrats hate white people.
How do the Dems gets 95% of the black vote? Is there any explanation other than racial hatred?

"I'm not going to take your money and give it to black people."

Cracks like that say a lot about a parties mentality and people pay attention.

Blacks are a write off but conservatives could win over Hispanics and Asians. Start treating them like white people and they'll come over.

Catholic Moronette here.  I never heard of John Hagee (TX evangelist) until a friend raved about him.  A different friend (not Evangelical either) sent me this yesterday.  The real info starts at minute 38.  The lunar/solar occurrences aren't forecasted by Hagee; they're forecasted by NASA, and the first one hits on Passover in March of 2014. 

Take a listen to what happened in the world during the handful of "blood moons" the world has seen.  It would appear that SCOAMF and the Caliphate (as well as Russia and Germany) are about to meet their match.

http://bit.ly/XheLid

<i> 482454

Fuck off and die you cum-guzzling twat.</i>

"454" isn't 454 anymore. Gerg is getting wiped out.

Anyway, I do wish Mitt had hit harder in the 2nd and 3rd debates, rather than trying to act like a statesman against the gutter punk Obamunist.

So: are enough people stupid enough to believe in a "war on women" fabricated initially by George Stephanopolweenie of all people?

491 I am at Chic fil a.

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In addition to living in an actual desert, I also live in a Chic fil A desert.

Broederbond anyone?

LauraW, I like the hell out of you!

The only thing that will be horrific for me in the near future is getting Obama memorabilia for Christmas from my MIL, who, if it weren't for my FIL would have starved years ago.  She has had brain surgery, so biting my tongue at Christmas will be painful, especially after I've made the expensive delicacies she is no longer able to cook, but declares the holiday ruined if they are not present. 

I'll be making Christmas gifts, and telling my husband "BUY NOTHING".  Homemade for the relatives, which is better than some of the sanctimonious Obots deserve.  A nephew with new twin infants and a house underwater that they can't afford to live in (they are in another state for work, and renting out what they can't afford to unload) said this morning that his kids "will be able to watch Big Bird!"  It hasn't occurred to him that they could buy DVDs cheaper from that multimillion dollar conglomerate than they can afford to subsidize broadcasting in perpetuity.

I'll be teaching my daughter how to can, and in the spring the kids are going to help me dig up a bigger chunk of the yard to start growing more of our food.

The trees that suffered this year in the drought then the hurricane will be replaced with fruit and nuts.

My son (who swears he will NEVER vote when he is old enough) is going to learn a skilled trade--someday in the future, he will have the best hut in Hooverville as a result!

@502

Didn't mean to steal your thunder but I didn't read all 490 something posts on this thread.

It just came to me.

Sorry. 

If you put the two resumes side by side is there ANY way that Romney doesn't get the job?

Yes, he is not black

Do we need to lose an entire American city to terrorism to wake people up in this country?  I'm not sure even that would work.

Lets start with Detroit.

So if there's one thing I take solace in, it's that there's no way we're completely gone as a nation.

Consider the D+6 (or 7) electorate last night, yet the republican Congress.  How do you square that circle?

Easily, Cult of personality.  Bamables cult of persona called out voters who were more than happy (brainwashed) to pull the level for him and all his glory.  But that didn't translate to actual votes down ticket (otherwise I suspect we'd have a more democratic congress.)

The alternative explaination is the typical appeals to the EVIL GERRYMANDERING, but I'm not sure that's case here. Other numbers (youth voter turn out, etc.) point to a similar trend.  This was a cult of personna win for the democrats.  I'm at least confident they can't pull that off with Joe Biden at the help (and let's see them run Hillary after the SCOAMF's foreign policy pulls her under.)

It wasn't the Evangelicals.  The "independents" all turned out to be Democrats, surprise surprise.

Remember this.  Independent = chicken shit leftist

"So: are enough people stupid enough to believe in a "war on women" fabricated initially by George Stephanopolweenie of all people"

Yes, but they're not stupid. Face reality: the vast majority of folks pay attention to elections at most a few weeks out - nothing more - and to the basic information. The idiotic "rape" and similar comments were a golden gift to the other side, and they played it 24/7.

I'll give two examples: my wife & SIL - both voted for Palin, but sat this one out. Talking to the SIL early this AM (she seemed very upset @ the result, as she told me she thought RR had it "sewn up"), and she said the abortion/contraception/WoW was on the radio every day as she drove to & from work - and she admitted that this concerned her, to the point that she sat this one out... I will guarantee she was not alone in this.

Now you liberals will see the real voting take place. I went Galt in 08 when Obama came in. Others will follow now. Starve the beast. Less jobs, less taxes paid, the welfare state will go broke.

Own it, liberals.

Posted by: Cheri at November 07, 2012 11:38 AM (G+Wff)

Give terrorist some credit. They don't even want to go to Detroit.

Another thing that's been chewing at me as long as I'm getting things off my chest.

In our business we are increasingly competing with recently retired federal employees with golden retirement plans.   We get to subsidize their defined benefit retirements and get driven out of business for our trouble.

562Do we need to lose an entire American city to terrorism to wake people up in this country? I'm not sure even that would work.
Lets start with Detroit.

That wouldn't be a loss.

I say again: I live in Boehner's district. He was unopposed on the ballot yesterday.

Eric Cantor is the next district over and for the first time ever, he had a dem opponent who got 41% of the vote.  Cantor, much like Diane Frankenfeinstein, is too arrogant to even consider debating an opponent.  This should be interesting in two years for Cantor -- if we still have elections.

I just knew it was a good idea to keep that S+P short position. Suck it liberals, I'm making money while the country burns.

Fluffy @ 554

The Ohm's law thing is a bit of an exaggeration.  I remember basic concepts, can still read schematics, etc.  Here's the thing though - the Marine Corps is very focused on training you to fix the system they're assigning you to. I learned how to troubleshoot the AN/TPN-22 and the AN/TPS-73, but I didn't necessarily learn WHY the things they were teaching me worked.  You learn the steps but not the theory behind it.  Some guys are natural techs and already understood that stuff or figured it out as they went.  I was not - everything was brand new to me.  Since I'd be working on medical devices instead of radar systems this time, I thought there could be some things I could learn that are more general in nature instead of tailored to a couple of very specific military radars.

If you were a terrorist group, why provoke a response when you can issue a 1000 cuts and bleed the US?

Rational, but rationality is not an over-developed trait in Muslim terrorists. How many liberals have figured out that cities are prime targets, and the cities are all blue (i.e., Red)?

"I'm tired of some folks crappy logic regarding Murdoch"

-

Who said this was logical? Of course, it makes no sense, because the average 10 year old can figure out how to reply to the loaded question. Seemingly, however, the GOP can't.

Posted by: realityman at November 07, 2012 11:44 AM (L2x1w)

It's all Bush's fault

In Harris County, TX (Houston) 15,300 idjits voted  elsewhere on the ballot  (a whopping 1.2 million, 61.84%  voter turnout) but did not vote for *any* candidate for President.  Another 15,000 voted for alternative party Presidential candidates.  30,000 votes wasted.

Now who the heck goes to vote and doesn't vote for President?  Is that your "protest" vote?  Stupid idjits.

>>>> I don't see them killing their own peeps.

That's what they do best.

"Jones, I think Barone thought what we all thought: turnout for Mitt would be very high.

And it was, from all reports. But oddly the vote totals don't reflect the anectdotal evidence.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 07, 2012 11:32 AM (F/T2U)

It would be interesting for morons to just check their local stats and see what turns up.  I checked mine and confirmed what I thought on election day - that turnout was higher than 2008 and most people were enthusiastic for Mitt.

Something went terribly wrong somewhere.

"If we believe that conservative principles will solve our country's economic and social problems, then we must select conservative politicians.as our standard bearers."

That's just silly talk, there.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at November 07, 2012 11:43 AM (/kI1Q)

Christ I forgot about Michelle. Four more years of hearing about her taste and beauty. The Michelle worship is just the worst bunch of emperor has no clothes bullshit the media has dreamed up. Then to be told I am racist because I don't appreciate black beauty.

All morning I've been talking people off the ledge, including my husband and a number of my clients

Here's an especially heartbreaking email from one of my doctor clients - one of the most upbeat people I've ever known:

Count me in as someone who wouldn't give a shit if NYC became a mushroom cloud tomorrow.  You only view something like that as a tragedy if you have some connection to the victims.  I feel no bonds of kinship with Northeastern leftists anymore.  They aren't fellow Americans anymore.

America = Evel Knieval

Election = Snake River Canyon

Posted by: The Regular Guy at November 07, 2012 11:12 AM (qHCyt)

Radar,

This video should help you, and anyone else interested in the basic fundamentals of electricity:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pruCd9qcKSQ

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at November 07, 2012 11:43 AM (/kI1Q)

I don't know where this idea started that Michelle is some sort classy, svelte, Jackie O type fashionista, but let me state my opinion as plainly as I can: Bitch is fucking ugly.

http://tinyurl.com/b6uwu6q

Time to resist in other ways. Tax avoidance. It's easy when you have no job. Be a taker. Collapse the system. It's coming anyway, let's get it over with so we can rebuild. Everybody into the wagon!  Let  the libs pull it for a while.

Where's. My. Free. Shit?

Posted by: Long Island at November 07, 2012 11:48 AM (EsJl1)

I appreciate black beauty. What I don't like are giant horse-like teeth and a jaw like a car bumper.

The Michelle worship is just the worst bunch of emperor has no clothes bullshit the media has dreamed up.

Please don't use the words "Michelle" and "no clothes" in the same sentence.

Thanks. I'm having a bad enough day already.

Please don't use the words "Michelle" and "no clothes" in the same sentence.

Thanks. I'm having a bad enough day already.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 07, 2012 11:51 AM

Made me laugh.  For a minute.  Thank you.

Posted by: Hopeless at November 07, 2012 11:49 AM (ddb4x)

I say we go full retard and nominate Boehner.

Posted by: jwest at November 07, 2012 11:46 AM (ZDsRL)

80% turnout in my precinct of 2100, we went romney by 400.  Up 18% from 2008

Radar,

In addition to the YouTube video, you might want to search the internet for the MOS training manual from your tech school.  Might have some nuggets in there.  Good luck!

"Good thing we didn't have a small government conservative governor from Texas with a soft spot for Latinos."

If we ever find one that can talk, we'll run him for president. 

381 I just got back from Vegas with the wife for my 40th. Honestly, I did not like it as I thought I would.

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I go to Vegas frequently. I also don't like it much.

Well, technically, I go through Vegas. It's just a pit stop I have to make because Honda decided tiny cars only need tiny fuel tanks, so I don't have the range to make it all the way to Utah without gassing up right about there.

The redesign of the Russel Road/I-15 interchange is a freakin' disaster, especially if you're going north. To get back onto I-15, you have to immediately cross two lanes of traffic, which allows you to get into a lane of I-15 that is making a popular exit and thus gated by the traffic light off the freeway on Tropicana. So while you're intently studying your rearview mirror searching for a traffic hole large enough to get you the fuck out of the right lane, the car right in front of you suddenly stops because the traffic light on Tropicana just turned red.

Can't speak the buffets or casinos. As far as I'm concerned, gambling is a tax on the stupid.

Posted by: Meremortal at November 07, 2012 11:52 AM (1Y+hH)

Posted by: Tami at November 07, 2012 11:51 AM (X6akg

Would a nekkid picture of Krispy Kreme Christie help?

653,

The youtube video I linked is a spoof, and a damn funny one at that.  Electrical pioneer Bob Transformer!

#578

Red states will not be red much longer. Case in point is Arizona. I just left there. Ca democrats, immigrants and white trash takers have almost ruined the state.

. I'm going to see a granddaughter today. She's almost five. I will tell her I will try to make it up to her. She will ask her Mom why Grandpa is crying.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 07, 2012 11:55 AM (UOM4

Yes, it would send me into full on depression.

What is not the next step towards statehood? I am too lazy to look it up? I am guessing congressional approval.

Let's see you gloat after stagflation sets in, you mongoloid cumbubble.

Great, now I have to clean Mtn Dew off the screen.  God, I love this place and it's loyal commentators.

"Mourdoch committed a 'foul', he stepped 'out of bounds', he broke a 'rule'"

No, he stepped in a pile of dogs#### and insisted that it didn't stink. For the inability to deal w/something that simple he deserved what he got.

Posted by: Mindy at November 07, 2012 11:32 AM (6jLT3)

*waves from dejected corner*

Hey, Mindy, nice to see you and Miss Tammy's here, too!

The way to solve the young women voting for their vaginas dilemma:

Conservative men, shun them. let them commingle with their LGBT heros and metrosexual buddies. They will die out as a breed.

(But that will never happen because so many young men are desperate for pooter and once they get hooked on a snatch, it's hard to let it go, even if it belongs to a donk.)

693 Clownifornia voted for Prop 30 and other tax hikes, because it's for the chilllllldrennnnnn

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And there's another of the many reasons I need MOAR CHOCOLATE.

"Hubby just called from work....people have been coming into his office all morning saying What in the F just happened last night?....The disbelief is thick"

- and I'd wager that a good number of folks less than happy w/the Won's agenda didn't vote.

I dunno, pretty bummed but thinking grudgefucking Eva L just might be the thing that takes the edge off. just saying

I want my:

1. Free Healthcare

2. My welfare, food stamps, etc..

3. My free Obama Cell Phone

4. Free Mass Transportation

5. Free new 3000 ft home with a swimming pool

6. Solar powered car

Well, I am waiting !! The election has been over for 12 hours now and where is my free Fuxcking stuff Obama?????????

Posted by: kbdabear at November 07, 2012 11:58 AM (wwsoB)

I just don't get my state, 30 passed, 38 failed miserably which is somewhat of a good sign, we still have a death penalty and that stupid genetic labeling thing failed. Oh and my redistrict city fell into democrat hands.

You know how I know Obama won?  We arm mexican drug cartels that kill ruthlessly, don't track the weapons, and lie about it to Congress!!!

Whee!  Winning!

So many things.  So little time.  Cheer me up?  When I just saw the United States of America burn last night?  Get tough?  Get tough for what? 

All I'm hearing is a repeat of what I was hearing in 2008.  How'd that work out?

Posted by: phreshone at November 07, 2012 11:59 AM (MAhUT)

Is this supposed to be irony?

Posted by: Long Island at November 07, 2012 11:59 AM (EsJl1)

Connecticut, land of the fuckin idiots.

It sure didn't look like Republican voting was down when I had to stand in line to vote for the first time in my extremely Republican area. Can anyone explain yet why Republican voting was down?

Posted by: JustLikeDavidHasselhoff at November 07, 2012 12:01 PM (Rwrs+)

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RON PAUL!!

Thanks, Laura. We are better than they are.

Bummed out today and will be for a while, but time to move on.

I'm one of the evil small business owners. I do have to say that at this point, it's ALL about protecting and providing additional security for my family. Not comfortable helping anyone else financially other than a few select charities; my family may need it in the times to come. Maybe if the economy defies all previous economic laws, things will change, but for now, am hunkering down.

Absolutely nothing at all for any Democrats, leftists, or libs calling themselves moderates. Like Gordon Gecko said, if these people need a friend, get a dog. If you need help, call Obama or your nearest Democrat. Should be bigger than that, but right now, I'm not.

All the best to the morons and 'ettes out there. You're about the last line of sanity out there. 

#661

A woman in Az whom I saw in the Dr's office and then in the pharmacy told me she goes to 5 Dr's and gets her pain scripts then sells them to a trusted friend for $3000 cash every month. She is on SSDI & Arizona's version of  Medicare/Medicade (which is free). There is another whole underworld of scarry out there.

The fight is not gone. After the disappointment wears off we'll still have to live under this JEF for 4 years. But I decided this morning that there are some things I can do other than moving to Canada. It's time myself and others on the right fought fire with fire. Starve them of their resources. STOP buying from companies that support Dems. STOP giving hollywood or the music industry money. STOP giving the fools at MSNBC and the rest of the MSM any concern. Don't click on their links.

I own a small business and don't have the luxury of going full Galt. But I can tell you flat out that I will never hire another lefty. (Not that I ever did, but there will be some questions asked befiore I hire. Not that I'll be hiring anytime soon in this economy)

 Starve the govt. of resources to give to the dregs that they support. Take every aggressive write off you can. STOP buying union made products. Yep, you heard me. Fuck them. Use their own tactics against them. STOP trying to stay above the fray, speak out. Get in their face as the JEF said. I also decided that although I can't go full Galt. I am going to stop trying to grow my business and just hold the line. All they'll do is take more of it anyway and then I'll be forced to pay for everyone's healthcare anyway. Fuck it, it's not going to happen. The leeches who vote in people like Fauxahauntus, the JEF, Grayson etc. Can suck it. If you live in a blue state I am not sending any donations your way the next time some natural disaster hits. Your precious little govt. can do that. I'm tired of being nice to these people. They are destroying everything we've built. It's not time to lay down and die. It's time for a change in tactics.

Posted by: the day after at November 07, 2012 12:03 PM (LpQbZ)

I'll go with ya...my Frito Bandito accent is fantastico!

I can hold my head up high at work and tell the socialist illiterates that

"I did not vote for

(against)

Romney

(Obama).

Fell free to read between the lines.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 07, 2012 12:06 PM (2rMmy)

__

go to your state's DPW website, there's probably a snitch hotline.

If not, just call the state AG office, and ask for help. Probably won't work though if that official is a donk.

*slaps forehead*

My state elected a donk who votes with her vagina for AG.

FML

<i> I'm a fan of history. History demonstrates time
and again that nations will rise, become dominant and then ultimately
go into decline. The arc of a nation... I've wondered on and off over
the last 20 years or so where we were on that arc. I believe that last
night we blew past the inflection point and are now on the decline. And
we, the American people, made the conscious decision to do so.

I did not ever believe I would see it in my lifetime.

There are now more of them than there are of us. </i>

I have elderly internet friends in the UK who lived this lifepath, and sadly the USA is going the same way.

Here's the breakdown from York County, in the disappointing state of VA (so sorry, everyone, we failed you):

2008 - D/13,700  R/19,833 (total 33,533)

2012 - D/13,165   R/20,182 (total 33,347)

So Romney gained 1.7% on McCain.  Obama '12 lost 3.9% from Obama'08.  Overall the York County 2012 vote was down -.5%, ALL  of which came from BO's low turnout.

BTW, I was talking to another client who said that his neighbor was a poll watcher in Collier County yesterday. 

A little after 5:00 pm, tons of Hispanics who couldn't speak any English came into the polling place. 

Many of them got provisional ballots with an interpreter helping them, then marked their ballots for Obama only.  Nothing else. 

It was bizarre.

Who in 2016? Mitch McConnell?

With all the charisma of McRino? No way.

Posted by: jwest at November 07, 2012 11:46 AM (ZDsRL)

This is why I'm so shocked.  The turnout at rallys for Mitt vs the turnout for obama, etc.  obama getting 10 million less votes than 2008?  I just don't get it.  Everything pointed to a landslide.  It just doesn't add up any way you look at it.

I made three pans of Lasagna, canclled my tv and gettin drunk.  tomorrow is another day. 

Flag in distress mode.

All we had to do was match McCain's numbers, and we would win. And we had been spotted an extra 2.5 million Independents going in.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 07, 2012 12:02 PM (JxIkO)

I tried to tell people we needed that most excellent pair of tits in the VP slot, but nobody listened. 

Posted by: Aaron at November 07, 2012 12:05 PM (Tlix5)

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No.  We'll be part of the caliphate.  We'll only wish we were like Japan.

This is why I'm so shocked. The turnout at rallys for Mitt vs the turnout for obama, etc. obama getting 10 million less votes than 2008? I just don't get it. Everything pointed to a landslide. It just doesn't add up any way you look at it.

The votes were in the back of the car just in case the race got close and had to have a recount.

Half the people still blame Bush for the economy? I know this to be true in some  cases.

He'll now have 8 years to rig the system. I bet we don't see another Republican in that office.

Three words.

Putin, Castro and Chavez.

Posted by: Havedash at November 07, 2012 12:11 PM (F0WNa)

No it didnt. The polls were all pointing to Obama. Rasmussen is a bad pollster is all

If you make it a cultural war, you lose. It you forge an alliance between social cons and fiscal cons, you lose.

Make it an alliance promoting individual freedom and liberty, and truly and fully embrace constitutional constructivism (The Founders said what they meant, and meant what they said) you win.

When you inject social conservatism into politics, you end up with a war on drugs (how’s that workin’ out for ya?) and then complain about how many people are in prisons around the nation. ..and then complain about out of control judges and prosecutors. You end up with a war on lifestyles that you don’t, personally like or approve of. iow, you try to choose how – and where – others will live, talk, dress and even where and when they work.

 You end up with a foreign policy that embraces and promotes the invasion of other nations, for their own good and because itÂ’s the right thing to do, you understand. Â…then, you wonder why so many other nations hate and fear us and our so-called ‘freedom.Â’ You then, also, wonder why so-called libertarians, and no few independents, refuse to support or join your party. You alienate half of America andÂ… wonder why you keep losing the big elections and the big policy decisions.

Fiscal cons are just as bad, in their own way. They seek ways to balance the budgetÂ…but seldom discuss the detailsÂ…or even discuss where to slash the budget to sustainable levels. When you start slashing the budget, many, if not most of your favorite government programs go the way of the dinosaur, including the 501(c)3 status for your local churches. You donÂ’t discuss that. You want to take it all out of the other guyÂ’s pocketbook while maintaining government cash flow for your own projects and liberty-reducing, big government policies.

 These are just a few of the odds and sods of irrational behavior you embrace and support...and you think that no one else can see through the fascade? ...and you while away the hours - and opporunties - by spending your time in echo chambers, trash talking many of the very people who woulkd and could support many of yourr objectives? ...but you can't understand why you keep losing the big elections or the big policy battles? It can't be your fault, after all! It must be all of those losers who are feeding at the public trough! The welfare moms, the food stamp nation, and the unions and the...elders on social security. Yeah...that's it. It can't be you, after all...can it? Everone else is wrong! ...so if you're so smart, why do you keep losing?

You want individual freedom and liberty? A return to The Constitution? Smaller government? Then embrace The Constitution. Fully, in all of its aspects, and not just the parts that you like. They said what they meant and meant what they saidÂ…or else itÂ’s just another god-damned piece of paper. ...or were they two-faced ignoramouses, too? 'Cause, you know, you simply can't be wrong - 'cause that's what you keep sayin', anyway.

 Embrace that responsibility and accountability you go on about all the time. Admit it when you're wrong...or shut up about how holy and righteous your ideology is above all others, including that of the Founders of this nation.

 The worst lie you tell is the one you tell yourselves.

 ...and if you're so damned civil, stop attacking other Americans and treat them like you want to be treated. In fact, treat them better than you want to be treated.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at November 07, 2012 12:17 PM (53riN)

The numbers should be on your county website.

"The turnout at rallys for Mitt vs the turnout for obama, etc" Rallys are only one small part of the picture. Where was the GOP on TV/cable?

"Half the people still blame Bush for the economy? I know this to be true in some cases" I know many who do - Bush/Rove's vapid idiocy of not fighting back is coming back to bite - and will do for years to come.

Romney lost because we've become a nation of leeches. Somewhere along the way, we've decided that it's okay to take what's not ours. Maybe it's a byproduct of teaching children for 30+ years that there are no losers and that everyone gets a trophy. Maybe when people are more concerned about reality TV than reality, we blindly follow whoever is promising to give us the most stuff. We spend more $ per capita on education than almost any other nation, yet produce innumerable dummies. What is the last history or economics book that the average voter read? 

I read a quote this past weekend by an Israeli academic that said something like, "Free countries that strive for liberty, achieve equality. Free countries that strive for equality, achieve neither." I believe this to be the difference between the American and French Revolutions, and the main difference between conservatism and liberalism.   

The concept of America is done. It was a good run I guess. 236 years but it's now over. We've traded our freedom and liberty for what? Promises? I suggested to my girlfriend that we move to another country and she is all for it. This country left me. I feel anger and rage right now. Disappointment is too mild. I should feel terrible thinking this but I want America's inevitable destruction to be quick so the 50% that voted for him can see the consequence of their actions. Not that they would take responsibility. 

Of everyone that was invited to our house for thanksgiving this year, only those that voted for Romney are now welcome. I will explain to everyone else that they've taken enough from me and that I have to draw the line somewhere. If that means just my girlfriend and I, I say good. I'd rather they starve to death than take a morsel of food out of my garbage. I can no longer be friends with liberals. I can not associate with people who believe it's ok to continue taking from me. In <30 years we've gone from Reaganism to collectivism. We failed because selfishness is no longer a vice.  

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at November 07, 2012 12:13 PM (53riN)

But but but what about the photo op with Barry and Krispy Kreme. You mean that didn't solve everything?

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at November 07, 2012 12:17 PM (53riN)

try -insert name of county- election results

#820    ...In short, its gonna be fun watching that motherfucker burn.

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Yep.  And I think at  some point he's going to crack under the pressure and  make Biden's behavior look like that of a dignified elder statesman.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 07, 2012 11:53 AM (JxIkO)

Yeah the failure of your predictions was not your model persay, it was that no one saw this as a repeat of 2010.  You rated that your least likely model, and the various other polls (Ras Party ID for example) supported that (as well as the tigher LV screens and enthusiasm polling.)

I'm still trying to figure out where the D+6-7 came from.  My guess (as I stated in antoher thread) was "cult of personality." It's hard to reflect that in polls, that people who worship this fucker will come out in droves.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 07, 2012 12:20 PM (UOM4

  Old sofas and handbags hardest hit

Posted by: Red Shirt at November 07, 2012 10:07 AM (FIDMq)

I am with you man.  And no. It makes you more of a man.

Posted by: kawfytawk at November 07, 2012 12:18 PM (JWLqy)

My theory about that... it takes a lot of time to build up enthusiasm for a candidate into actual votes.  The big rallies materialized, literally, 3 weeks out from election day.  Not nearly enough time for word-of-mouth to get lots of people aboard the bandwagon.

"The big rallies materialized, literally, 3 weeks out from election day. Not nearly enough time for word-of-mouth to get lots of people aboard the bandwagon."

Exactly. The "rallies" needed to start after the nomination, building w/media appearances. Otherwise, it's an exercise in futility.