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April 16, 2012

A Defense and Rejection of Odd Partisan ID in Polling
— CAC

Nobody knows what turnout is going to be until election day. You can make some pretty good guesses, based on visible enthusiasm for candidates, months out. But you aren't going to nail the actual breakdown in voter ID. Exit polling in 2010, for example, showed a 36R-28I-36D split. Independents broke heavily for the Republicans, and that made the difference in the Red Wave. For months, some firms started shifting over their partisan ID in sampling to the right, and these firms ended up exaggerating Republican strength (prime example : Pat Toomey, who won by 2% but averaged at least double that in polling).

In the hotly contested 2004 Presidential election, voter ID split 37R-26I-37D. Even when Democrats enjoyed their own wave of pain in 2006, voter ID was only 38D-26I-36R, a D+2 edge. Independents, again, made the pain far worse. The 2008 "landslide" for President Obama did see a marked shift in voter ID (one that Gallup and Rasmussen both insist has totally evaporated) from the 2004/2006 cycles to 39D/29I/32R, which marks (so far) the high point for Democratic advantage, D+7. President Obama and the Democrats have taken hits in their image with the voting public since, so that edge is not what it was.

I could understand polling firms showing between R/D+0 and D+4 for a Presidential cycle, as there are more registered Democrats than Republicans and the Republicans make up some of the gap by being more likely to vote. That phenomenon itself is no big secret, we often discuss the difference between registered voter and likely voter polls and results. But polling firms shitting out D+10, D+11, and higher samples have no excuse. It is incredibly laughable that these polls are averaged with those using far more realistic samples (R+0 to D+4), and in so doing prop up the President's numbers.

It is amazing what happens when polling firms switch from registered to likely. Public Policy Polling enjoys a high rate of accuracy for its final polling. When election day comes closer, they shift over from registered to likely voter pools, and, surprise, the Republicans typically (but not always) do better. Just look at their Walker poll already mentioned here. Polling this far out is meaningless not because the electorate can change it's minds, but the polling firms themselves often use voter samples that will, months later, look laughable.

Not accusing anyone here. Just a thought.
Oh, and by the way, Rasmussen is showing the generic congressional ballot preference is 46% for the Republicans, 36% for the Democrats. A bump I can only assume came either entirely from Scott's bald head or a "unity" bump coinciding with the end of the primary.

Posted by: CAC at 04:26 PM | Comments (181)
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1 Dude.

What the hell is this from Drudge? Armed citizens arrests?

http://bit.ly/HMQh9e

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 16, 2012 04:27 PM (piMMO)

2 oh hell, wrong comments.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 16, 2012 04:27 PM (piMMO)

3 "39D/29I/32R"

I read that too fast and assumed the topic was Christina Hendricks.

Posted by: Keith Arnold at April 16, 2012 04:27 PM (Jdtsu)

4 You should add, "and suck it Jordan" to the end of that.

Posted by: buzzion at April 16, 2012 04:29 PM (GULKT)

5 hockey is growing on me

Posted by: Jones in CO at April 16, 2012 04:29 PM (8sCoq)

6 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at April 16, 2012 04:29 PM (7W3wI)

7 What? The Hendricks Twins are oddly partisan?

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 16, 2012 04:30 PM (niZvt)

8 Boobies are growing on me.

Posted by: Christina Hendricks at April 16, 2012 04:31 PM (niZvt)

9 but the polling firms themselves often use voter samples that will, months later, look laughable. There's just something about a firm poll...

Posted by: Kal Penn at April 16, 2012 04:31 PM (FcR7P)

10 What the hell is this from Drudge? Armed citizens arrests? http://bit.ly/HMQh9e Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 16, 2012 08:27 PM (piMMO) Looks like bullshit to me

Posted by: nevergiveup at April 16, 2012 04:32 PM (i6RpT)

11 I read that too fast and assumed the topic was Christina Hendricks. Not enough D's in that first number.

Posted by: t-bird at April 16, 2012 04:33 PM (FcR7P)

12 I quit paying attention to Drudge when he linked Infowars.

Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at April 16, 2012 04:34 PM (NVu2l)

13 A poll projecting a 52-48 result for an election that is a 51-49... thats not that bad.

Posted by: ChrisValentine at April 16, 2012 04:34 PM (E9kgB)

14 ^ In reference to Toomey winning by half the margin he was projected to.

Posted by: ChrisValentine at April 16, 2012 04:35 PM (E9kgB)

15 1 Dude.

What the hell is this from Drudge? Armed citizens arrests?

http://bit.ly/HMQh9e

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 16, 2012 08:27 PM (piMMO)

-----

FDR did the same thing in the name of price controls. Plowed crops under and killed livestock.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/cmmjddl

Posted by: Elint engr at April 16, 2012 04:36 PM (sJKFk)

16 Farmer forced to shoot his own baby piglets in cold blood "I think this is an unconstitutional order, these actions of the DNR are way out of bounds," attorney Joseph O'Leary told NaturalNews in an interview today. He is representing one of the farmers who was targeted in these raids. "To take what was six months ago an entirely legal activity, and suddenly people are felons over it. They're not growing drugs, running guns or killing anybody, they're raising animals pursuant to USDA regulations and state of Michigan regulations. They haven't done anything wrong here, and the DNR is treating them like they are hardened criminals." In anticipation of the DNR arriving on the scene, one farmer engaged in what can only be described as a heart-wrenching task of shooting his own pigs, one by one, including baby piglets before the DNR arrived. This was to avoid being arrested as a felon. His livelihood is now completely destroyed, as the state of Michigan has put him out of business. Even after this farmer informed the DNR that he had destroyed his entire herd of pigs, the DNR continued to illegally acquire a search warrant by providing false information to a court Judge, then conducting an armed raid on his ranch to verify that the entire herd of pigs had indeed already been shot to death. That this took place satisfied the DNR, which is now showing itself to be engaged in the mob-style destruction of targeted farming businesses through its mass-murder agenda of Michigan's small-scale farm pigs.

Posted by: steevy at April 16, 2012 04:36 PM (7W3wI)

17 "Obama looks like he could lose ... he looks black." -CAC

Posted by: The Mega Independent at April 16, 2012 04:37 PM (AlYnQ)

18 17 Edited for space reasons.

Posted by: steevy at April 16, 2012 04:38 PM (7W3wI)

19 @16: That reminds me of the story about a rancher forced to rape his own sheep. It was really b-b-b-a-a-a-a-d.

Posted by: Christina Hendricks at April 16, 2012 04:38 PM (niZvt)

20 Polling dead people is tricky. The actual number who vote, not so much the party affiliation.

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 16, 2012 04:39 PM (j+Izh)

21 So you're saying there's a chance?

Posted by: indigo child at April 16, 2012 04:41 PM (xXhWA)

22 1 Dude. What the hell is this from Drudge? Armed citizens arrests? http://bit.ly/HMQh9e Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 16, 2012 08:27 PM (piMMO) ------------ two words: Land mines.

Posted by: nope at April 16, 2012 04:42 PM (HOOye)

23 19 @16: That reminds me of the story about a rancher forced to rape his own sheep. It was really b-b-b-a-a-a-a-d. Posted by: Christina Hendricks at April 16, 2012 08:38 PM (niZvt) ---------- Sounds reasonable.

Posted by: bawney frank at April 16, 2012 04:43 PM (HOOye)

24 Hmm.

Are they only going after pork?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 16, 2012 04:44 PM (piMMO)

25 12 I quit paying attention to Drudge when he linked Infowars.

Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at April 16, 2012 08:34 PM (NVu2l)

Glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. I still look at him, but he's dangerously close to nuking the fridge.

Posted by: Truman North at April 16, 2012 04:44 PM (I2LwF)

26 1 Dude. What the hell is this from Drudge? Armed citizens arrests? http://bit.ly/HMQh9e Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 16, 2012 08:27 PM (piMMO) --------------- You donate, or you die.

Posted by: pay to play at April 16, 2012 04:45 PM (HOOye)

About the pigs:

I like pigs. Thats why I don't eat pork. But if killing a pig is so heart-wrenching for a farmer you have to wonder why he chose that career.

There's so much hyperventilating in that article I don't know what really happened. But I think the pigs are in fact wild boars that Texans run around and shoot for fun (sometimes they escape).

Posted by: indigo child at April 16, 2012 04:46 PM (xXhWA)

28 Oh, and by the way, Rasmussen is showing the generic congressional ballot preference is 46% for the Republicans, 36% for the Democrats. If that number holds up in November, Democrat will be a language spoken only in Hell. -Spirit of Bull Halsey.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at April 16, 2012 04:46 PM (d9lOz)

29 The GOP up by 10 basically means the GOP won't lose seats, which is amazing if true. Cook so far only shows 5 GOP seats switching to Dems and 8 Dem seats switching to GOP if it splits down the middle.

Posted by: JonathanEllis at April 16, 2012 04:47 PM (BdzEV)

30 Glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. I still look at him, but he's dangerously close to nuking the fridge.

Posted by: Truman North at April 16, 2012 08:44 PM (I2LwF)

I makes everything he links suspect. If a con gets sucked into a fraud, he loses credibility for all time. That is just how it works. So, now I have to distrust anything he posts until I can find verification.

Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at April 16, 2012 04:48 PM (NVu2l)

31 Beware! Raykon and his alter ego uhipd are off the leash for awhile.

Posted by: NIPPP at April 16, 2012 04:49 PM (0oYHO)

32 Well, here's Michigan's Invasive Species Act with regard to "feral" pigs.

Perhaps those poor pig farmers were breeding boars for hunting purposes....

http://1.usa.gov/AktDrq

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 16, 2012 04:49 PM (piMMO)

33 > 27 About the pigs: I like pigs. Thats why I don't eat pork. But if killing a pig is so heart-wrenching for a farmer you have to wonder why he chose that career. There's so much hyperventilating in that article I don't know what really happened. But I think the pigs are in fact wild boars that Texans run around and shoot for fun(sometimes they escape). Posted by: indigo child I bet you nailed it! There's a documentary floating around TV nature channels called "The Pig Bomb" about giant feral boars running amuck in parts of the US. They were let loose to provide hunting and... well pigs breed real fast.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at April 16, 2012 04:49 PM (d9lOz)

34 I quit paying attention to Drudge when he linked Infowars.
Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at April 16, 2012 08:34 PM (NVu2l)

****

He linked them again today.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 16, 2012 04:50 PM (piMMO)

35 Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a doofus of a failure of a massive piece of calamari. Wait - is that right?

Posted by: Anson Mitchell at April 16, 2012 04:51 PM (IhUxK)

36 I want to see the left smashed into sniveling impotence in November. So badly they cannot even act as a spoiler.

It will require that , for several election cycles to reverse the damage they have done.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 16, 2012 04:52 PM (SAMxH)

37 "If that number holds up in November, Democrat will be a language spoken only in Hell." That's the official language there now.

Posted by: Anson Mitchell at April 16, 2012 04:52 PM (IhUxK)

38 27. Almost all pigs shot by hunters in Texas and elswhere are feral hogs, not wild boars.

Posted by: Pink Liberation Theologist at April 16, 2012 04:53 PM (XkVVw)

39 But I think the pigs are in fact wild boars that Texans run around and shoot for fun.. DingDingDing

Posted by: sickinmass at April 16, 2012 04:53 PM (bcNec)

40 He linked them again today.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 16, 2012 08:50 PM (piMMO)

Once they go sensationalist, best to apply a grain of salt to everything.

Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at April 16, 2012 04:55 PM (NVu2l)

41 Chalk up another first. Captain Teleprompter is the first incumbent President since anyone can find that trailed a challenger in the April Gallup poll (Even Jimmah was ahead of Reagan in '80).

Dear Eeyores and Unicorn Fart Sniffers:

Reed Richards has your number.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 16, 2012 04:55 PM (7utQ2)

42 I want to see the left smashed into sniveling impotence in November. So badly they cannot even act as a spoiler. Fapfapfapfapfapfap

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 16, 2012 04:55 PM (Rhie+)

43 Feral hogs are scary as hell and stink real bad.

Posted by: LASue at April 16, 2012 04:56 PM (I1icO)

They were let loose to provide hunting and...

Blame the Portugese.

Posted by: Matt Houston at April 16, 2012 04:56 PM (WjsFM)

45 feral hogs

I had an uncle named Ferrell Hogg.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 16, 2012 04:57 PM (7utQ2)

46 Changing the subject from feral pigs to greedy pigs, why isn't the MFM reporting that Martha Johnson, The recently resigned head of the GSA was an Obama political appointee confirmed by a Democrat-controlled Senate?

Posted by: Lokki at April 16, 2012 04:58 PM (a5F9g)

47 Palestinian Prime Minister to meet with Netanyahu Tuesday Salam Fayyad will present Netanyahu with a missive from Palestinian President Abbas, delineating the Palestinian demands for returning to the negotiating table. 'Palestinian Demands"? How about win a war first, or act like human beings before making demands? Or what, do you think there is a Muslim in the White.....ah nevermind

Posted by: nevergiveup at April 16, 2012 04:58 PM (i6RpT)

48 "Beware! Raykon and his alter ego uhipd are off the leash for awhile." Lol.. no worries really. Just mind your step to avoid their little droppings and you'll be fine.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 16, 2012 04:58 PM (R5yLq)

49 Have you ever seen the Cartoon Network show, Frisky Dingo? I figure they portray pollsters about as accurately as anybody. Except whatever internal polling data the parties and campaigns keep to themselves. That stuff I figure is fairly scientific and accurate.

Posted by: Minifest at April 16, 2012 04:58 PM (Gc/Qi)

50 hogs go feral in a very short time span once they're out on there own. they're a lot like lefties in that regard.

Posted by: D. Hopper at April 16, 2012 04:58 PM (AVfT8)

51 I get to go hog hunting this year. I'll let you know if the bacon is as good as reported. I know a guy with land and he's even promised me to teach me to butcher it for half the meat. I figure that's a win/win.

Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at April 16, 2012 04:59 PM (NVu2l)

52 I had an uncle named Ferrell Hogg.

Was he a county commissioner in Georgia?

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 16, 2012 04:59 PM (N79DY)

53 Frisky Dingo. Say it loud, say it proud, but take off your socks first.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 16, 2012 04:59 PM (Gc/Qi)

54 I like pigs. Thats why I don't eat pork. I thought you said you liked pigs? Now, eat!

Posted by: Roseanne Barr at April 16, 2012 04:59 PM (FcR7P)

55 Changing the subject from feral pigs to greedy pigs, why isn't the MFM reporting that Martha Johnson, The recently resigned head of the GSA was an Obama political appointee confirmed by a Democrat-controlled Senate? Posted by: Lokki at April 16, 2012 08:58 PM (a5F9g) They are holding off till them can find any connections what so ever to President Bush

Posted by: nevergiveup at April 16, 2012 05:00 PM (i6RpT)

56 Was he a county commissioner in Georgia?

Hoping someone would catch that.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 16, 2012 05:00 PM (7utQ2)

57 Have you ever seen the Cartoon Network show, Frisky Dingo? I figure they portray pollsters about as accurately as anybody.

****

I haven't seen it in months. I thought they had taken it off.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 16, 2012 05:00 PM (piMMO)

The 'wild pigs' are both. ....Some are pure 'wild boars' native to this continent. Some are descendents of 'wild boars' indiginous to Europe, brought over here by hunters for private reserves....and some escaped.

And some wild pigs are feral pigs....escapees from farms. ...The problem is, they are all interbreeding and creating big monster pigs as a result.

Posted by: wheatie at April 16, 2012 05:00 PM (+5U+B)

59
Wonder how bacon from a feral hog is?

Posted by: irongrampa at April 16, 2012 05:00 PM (SAMxH)

60 feral hog meat is terrible. worse than bear meat if that's possible.

Posted by: D. Hopper at April 16, 2012 05:01 PM (AVfT8)

61 "Chalk up another first. Captain Teleprompter is the first incumbent President since anyone can find that trailed a challenger in the April Gallup poll..." And yesterday he tried to use the Argentinian term for the Falklands Islands - the "Malvinas" - but instead he called them "the Maldives," which are another, and different, set of islands. If Bush had said something like this, SNL would do a sketch and MSNBC would have their anchors laughing at the moron in the White House. With Obama, however, you get crickets.

Posted by: Anson Mitchell at April 16, 2012 05:01 PM (IhUxK)

62 . worse than bear meat if that's possible. Posted by: D. Hopper at April 16, 2012 09:01 PM (AVfT

I don't even want to know how you know that?

Posted by: nevergiveup at April 16, 2012 05:01 PM (i6RpT)

63 I get to go hog hunting this year. I'll let you know if the bacon is as good as reported.I know a guy with land and he's even promised me to teach me to butcher it for half the meat. I figure that's a win/win.

****

I ate wild boar a long tie ago and it was delicious....right up until I chomped down on a piece of shot.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 16, 2012 05:02 PM (piMMO)

64 "Have you ever seen the Cartoon Network show, Frisky Dingo?" I used to watch "Jonny Quest" when I was a kid. Loved his dog, Bandit.

Posted by: Anson Mitchell at April 16, 2012 05:02 PM (IhUxK)

65 Romney has said "no thanks" on federal campaign funding.

SHIT JUST GOT REAL.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 16, 2012 05:02 PM (7utQ2)

66 made the mistake of going to a wild game feed at the local gun club.

Posted by: D. Hopper at April 16, 2012 05:03 PM (AVfT8)

67 Can't have pigs running around wild in Michigan when Muslims might be offended. Know why Muslims don't eat pork? The anatomy of the animal prevents them from halal throat slitting blood draining.

Posted by: Justamom at April 16, 2012 05:04 PM (Sptt8)

68 Romney has said "no thanks" on federal campaign funding. He's trying to buy the election! Oh, wait...

Posted by: Overseas Obama Donor at April 16, 2012 05:04 PM (FcR7P)

69 forgot to mention the worms.

Posted by: D. Hopper at April 16, 2012 05:04 PM (AVfT8)

70 65 Romney has said "no thanks" on federal campaign funding.

SHIT JUST GOT REAL.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 16, 2012 09:02 PM (7utQ2)

He should disable the address verification on his online donations too. And say he's just following the precedent Obama is setting.

Posted by: buzzion at April 16, 2012 05:04 PM (GULKT)

71 it's because they eat their own shit.

Posted by: D. Hopper at April 16, 2012 05:05 PM (AVfT8)

72 And yesterday he tried to use the Argentinian term for the Falklands Islands - the "Malvinas" - but instead he called them "the Maldives," which are another, and different, set of islands.

I'm waiting for him to go to Barcelona and say, "Thanks for such a nice welcome here in the Catalinas."

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 16, 2012 05:05 PM (E1JyF)

73 I ate wild boar a long tie ago and it was delicious....right up until I chomped down on a piece of shot.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 16, 2012 09:02 PM (piMMO)

The only thing I use a shotgun for is quail. I even squirrel hunt with a .22.

Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at April 16, 2012 05:05 PM (NVu2l)

74 Know why Muslims don't eat pork? Because deep down they want to be Jews?

Posted by: Akhbar Blumstein at April 16, 2012 05:06 PM (FcR7P)

75 "Wonder how bacon from a feral hog is? " Not all that good really. The meat is a lot leaner and as a result it really doesn't cure all that well.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 16, 2012 05:07 PM (R5yLq)

76 I thought feral hog tasted like any other hog as long as it wasn't too big or too old. I haven't tried it myself.

Posted by: Pink Liberation Theologist at April 16, 2012 05:07 PM (XkVVw)

77 Here's a thought--since we're so big on self-determination for violence-breeding regions like the West Bank, how about somebody ask the residents of the "Malvinas" what they want to do.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 16, 2012 05:07 PM (7utQ2)

59
Wonder how bacon from a feral hog is?

Not bad, if you smoke it all day. ....The bigger ones....over 500 lbs....are tougher, from what I've heard. The smaller ones are easier to tenderize by smoking.

Posted by: wheatie at April 16, 2012 05:07 PM (+5U+B)

79 "I'm waiting for him to go to Barcelona and say, "Thanks for such a nice welcome here in the Catalinas." Remember that he said, "I don't know what the word is in Austrian..." That is GERMAN, you dumb fucking idiot. I was in Germany twice, and no one I know speaks "Austrian" there or in Austria. My family is from Austria, so I should know.

Posted by: Anson Mitchell at April 16, 2012 05:09 PM (IhUxK)

80 forgot to mention the worms.

***

A couple of years ago I was at dinner with customers when the waiter announced that the special dish for the night was grilled pork.
I LOVE pork and ordered it, and then he asked how I wanted it cooked.

"Grilled" Didn't you say it was "Grilled"?

No. He wanted to know what temperature.

Well DONE!!!

He then proceeded to launch into a lecture about how today's pork products can be safely eaten at any temperature.

Everyone at the table had the same reaction: Then you go eat raw pork. We want ours well done.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 16, 2012 05:09 PM (piMMO)

81 I bet you nailed it! There's a documentary floating around TV nature channels called "The Pig Bomb" about giant feral boars running amuck in parts of the US. They were let loose to provide hunting and... well pigs breed real fast.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at April 16, 2012 08:49 PM (d9lOz)

LOL!

Posted by: NIPPP at April 16, 2012 05:09 PM (0oYHO)

82 I hope I don't offend any Yorkie owners.. but those fucking things are annoying as hell. My neighbor has been mowing his back yard for about an hour and a half and that damn little shit dog hasn't shut up the entire time. Yes.. it's so beautiful out right now I have my windows open.

Posted by: jewells45 is happy!! at April 16, 2012 05:09 PM (UljOc)

83 "I thought feral hog tasted like any other hog as long as it wasn't too big or too old. I haven't tried it myself." With most of the rest of the meat that's true, but the bacon - well at least the one's I've tried, well it wasn't horrible but it wasn't any where near as good as "real" bacon. Just one man's opinion of course. But hey, your talking to a guy that has to get his laptop back by bribing his girl with chicken fried bacon.. lol.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 16, 2012 05:09 PM (R5yLq)

84 it's because they eat their own shit. Not real familiar with pigs, are you? It would have been to avoid trichinosis.

Posted by: t-bird at April 16, 2012 05:09 PM (FcR7P)

85 "Then you go eat raw pork." Anyone who tells you that you cannot get trichinosis from raw pork is either a liar or an asshole.

Posted by: Anson Mitchell at April 16, 2012 05:10 PM (IhUxK)

86 it's because they eat their own shit.

****

Don't most barnyard animals eat their own shit?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 16, 2012 05:10 PM (piMMO)

87 google around you can find pics of the microscope slides. just wait til after dinner.

Posted by: D. Hopper at April 16, 2012 05:10 PM (AVfT8)

88
The subject is worth some research, imho. Perhaps there is a trip to Michigan in the offing. Think I'll look into it.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 16, 2012 05:11 PM (SAMxH)

89 35 Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a doofus of a failure of a massive piece of calamari.

Wait - is that right?

Posted by: Anson Mitchell at April 16, 2012 08:51 PM (IhUxK)

Still need to put a "metric shit ton" in there somewhere!

Posted by: NIPPP at April 16, 2012 05:11 PM (0oYHO)

90 negatory, they know where the food comes from.

Posted by: D. Hopper at April 16, 2012 05:11 PM (AVfT8)

91 45. Lates niloticus (fish) The Nile perch (Lates niloticus) is a large freshwater fish. Also known as capitaine, mputa or sangara, it can grow up to 200kg and two metres in length. Common Names: chengu, mbuta, nijlbaars,... 46. Leucaena leucocephala (tree) The fast-growing, nitrogen-fixing tree/shrub Leucaena leucocephala, is cultivated as a fodder plant, for green manure, as a windbreak, for reforestation, as a biofuel crop etc. Common Names: acacia palida, aroma blanca, 46.5 Liberal (bottom feeder) The Liberal is a small but destructive group of primitive homo sapiens who want to turn the USA into a collapsed European Union-like state. Among their various traits, Liberals are intolerant, anti-military, anti-work ethics, anti-business, anti-religious, and anti-Contitution, as well as anti-the three branches of the government. They are pro-high taxes, pro-redistribution of wealth, and pro-enslaving the masses in order to form a serfdom. They believe ObamaMoney grows on trees, yet are unable to grow such trees due to their own strangling regulations. Common Names: SCoaMF, Libtards, Communists, Marxists, Thugs, Bullies, Out-of-Touch, unintelligent, very angry, liars, @$$hats, [fill in the blank] 47. Ligustrum robustum (shrub) Ligustrum robustum subsp.walkeri is a highly invasive weed in the Mascarene Achipelago in the Indian Ocean...

Posted by: Invasive Species Checklist at April 16, 2012 05:11 PM (HOOye)

92 Wonder how bacon from a feral hog is? Not bad, if you smoke it all day. .... Posted by: wheatie at April 16, 2012 09:07 PM (+5U+B) Wow, man. Where you get the jumbo size rolling papers?

Posted by: Tommy Chong at April 16, 2012 05:12 PM (Rhie+)

93 I thought that pigs are the only animals to shit in one corner of the pen and wallow everywhere else.

Posted by: Jimbo at April 16, 2012 05:12 PM (O3R/2)

94 That reminds me of the story about a rancher forced to rape his own sheep. It was really b-b-b-a-a-a-a-d. Posted by: Christina Hendricks at April 16, 2012 08:38 PM (niZvt) I call that monday,tuesday, wed, thursday, friday, saturday afternoon and sunday morning.

Posted by: Muhammed at April 16, 2012 05:13 PM (DGIjM)

95 "I hope I don't offend any Yorkie owners.. but those fucking things are annoying as hell. " Wristrocket. Load terrier, pull, launch, problem solved. But you didn't hear it from me. Lol

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 16, 2012 05:13 PM (R5yLq)

Don't most barnyard animals eat their own shit?

Um, no. ....And pigs would rather eat anything else but their own shit. Pigs are omnivores....they even eat people.

Posted by: wheatie at April 16, 2012 05:13 PM (+5U+B)

97 Well, its not so much that I love pigs, just that I HATE plants.

Posted by: indigo child at April 16, 2012 05:14 PM (xXhWA)

and cows

Posted by: indigo child at April 16, 2012 05:14 PM (xXhWA)

99 Wow, man. Where you get the jumbo size rolling papers?

Posted by: Tommy Chong at April 16, 2012 09:12 PM (Rhie+)

***

I tried to watch a Cheech and Chong movie a few weeks ago. It was gawd awful. I mean TERRIBLE.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 16, 2012 05:14 PM (piMMO)

100 57 - Yeah, they only did two seasons. Too good for tv, but it's the same creators who do Archer, so there is that.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 16, 2012 05:14 PM (Gc/Qi)

101 "Pigs are omnivores....they even eat people." Hmm.. less liberals, more bacon. We might just be on to something here.. Lol

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 16, 2012 05:15 PM (R5yLq)

102 go with homegrown, grass fed beef from someone you know. get some friends together and buy a steer (and a bigger fridge) you can have it butchered any way you want it then. also cuts down on the growth hormones and antibiotics. same for home grown pullets. i've got a friend who sells 'em for 6-7 bucks a pop, dressed. you'll never go back to store bought. plus its cheaper if you get bunch of them.

Posted by: D. Hopper at April 16, 2012 05:15 PM (AVfT8)

103 "Buffet Rule" fails cloture 51-45

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at April 16, 2012 05:15 PM (e8kgV)

104 go with homegrown, grass fed beef from someone you know. get some friends together and buy a steer (and a bigger fridge) you can have it butchered any way you want it then. also cuts down on the growth hormones and antibiotics.

****

Reminds me of Hank Hill joining the co-op.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 16, 2012 05:16 PM (piMMO)

105 Pigs are omnivores....they even eat people. Posted by: wheatie at April 16, 2012 09:13 PM (+5U+B) Right you are, gov.

Posted by: Brick Top at April 16, 2012 05:16 PM (Rhie+)

106 The SCOAMT uttered "Maldives" because a. he is a stupidass and b. stuck on searching out new vacation spots for his wife. He meant to mention "Malvinas" to piss on the UK like the ass he is, but instead gave them another reason to laugh at his sorry, soon to be packing self.

Posted by: Justamom at April 16, 2012 05:16 PM (Sptt8)

107 ""Buffet Rule" fails cloture 51-45" Que MSM and their Republican's protecting the evil rich meme.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 16, 2012 05:16 PM (R5yLq)

108 In days gone by farmers let their pigs eat anything they could find. I've even seen dead carcasses drug into the pig pen for the pigs to eat. Not so much anymore. Everything is as clean as possible. Pigs kept in their own separate pens and washed down daily. Air conditioning. I thought about being a pig when I found that out.

Posted by: Pink Liberation Theologist at April 16, 2012 05:17 PM (XkVVw)

109 there's a reason commercial hogs are raised in confinement facilities...

Posted by: D. Hopper at April 16, 2012 05:17 PM (AVfT8)

110 He meant to mention "Malvinas" to piss on the UK like the ass he is, but instead gave them another reason to laugh at his sorry, soon to be packing self. Posted by: Justamom at April 16, 2012 09:16 PM (Sptt

I hear they are polishing up Old Winston's Bust for it's probably return to the Oval Office

Posted by: nevergiveup at April 16, 2012 05:17 PM (i6RpT)

111 102 go with homegrown, grass fed beef from someone you know. get some friends together and buy a steer (and a bigger fridge) you can have it butchered any way you want it then. also cuts down on the growth hormones and antibiotics.

same for home grown pullets. i've got a friend who sells 'em for 6-7 bucks a pop, dressed. you'll never go back to store bought. plus its cheaper if you get bunch of them.

Posted by: D. Hopper at April 16, 2012 09:15 PM (AVfT

make sure your beef comes from critters that never got into sage... or pumpkins. take it from me. pumpkin cows taste disgusting. no i dont know why. just that they do and you can GIVE the meat away once your friends get on to you about it.

Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 16, 2012 05:17 PM (r7Ddb)

112 "killing a pig" is not the issue here. "losing the value of a pig because the government says so" is the issue here.

Posted by: Truman North at April 16, 2012 05:17 PM (I2LwF)

113

==feral hog meat is terrible.==

?? We eat wild hog all the time. I'm not even a pork fan and I like it.

Posted by: USS Diversity at April 16, 2012 05:18 PM (vpe0k)

114 Bald eagle meat is really stringy and nasty

Posted by: cherry at April 16, 2012 05:18 PM (OhYCU)

115 93 I thought that pigs are the only animals to shit in one corner of the pen and wallow everywhere else. Posted by: Jimbo at April 16, 2012 09:12 PM (O3R/2) Unlike Raykon, who likes to shit in a thread and wallow in it for hours at a time.

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 16, 2012 05:18 PM (niZvt)

116 i don't know about washed down daily unless they're a f-h project for the kids, but the facilities have a grated floor so the poop drops down and can't be eaten.

Posted by: D. Hopper at April 16, 2012 05:19 PM (AVfT8)

117 "Buffet Rule" fails cloture 51-45

Well, we'll never balance the budget without that extra 4 billion a year.

To math geeks, this is known as "statistical noise."

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 16, 2012 05:19 PM (7utQ2)

118 " "killing a pig" is not the issue here. "losing the value of a pig because the government says so" is the issue here." Sorry Truman - somebody said bacon, my thought process derailed.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 16, 2012 05:19 PM (R5yLq)

119 make sure your beef comes from critters that never got into sage... or pumpkins. take it from me. pumpkin cows taste disgusting. no i dont know why. just that they do and you can GIVE the meat away once your friends get on to you about it.

Wild onions can give the meat a pretty bad flavor too.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 16, 2012 05:20 PM (E1JyF)

120 sage? pumpkins? onions? you city slickers is funny...

Posted by: D. Hopper at April 16, 2012 05:21 PM (AVfT8)

121 ""Buffet Rule" fails cloture 51-45" I bet The Marxist Cancer holds a presser tomorrow to claim that "Romney is against tax fairness." Or maybe he can announce he is traveling to the Maldoodless Islands, wherever the fuck that is.

Posted by: Anson Mitchell at April 16, 2012 05:21 PM (IhUxK)

122 bleh, I had pork tonight now I feel guilty satay pork with peanut sauce sigh

Posted by: seriously at April 16, 2012 05:22 PM (HOOye)

123 114 - Plus I get tired of feeling the compulsion to salute my dinner plate.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 16, 2012 05:22 PM (Gc/Qi)

124 I tried to watch a Cheech and Chong movie a few weeks ago. It was gawd awful. I mean TERRIBLE. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 16, 2012 09:14 PM (piMMO) Yeah. The first film Up In Smoke is the only one that's worth a damn. The rest suck donkey balls.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 16, 2012 05:22 PM (Rhie+)

125 best kind of pork is the suckling baby pigs with the apple in the mouth. they're fast little fuckers too.

Posted by: D. Hopper at April 16, 2012 05:23 PM (AVfT8)

126 Wild onions can give the meat a pretty bad flavor too. Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 16, 2012 09:20 PM (E1JyF) Ya know what else can make meat taste bad? When I piss in my soon to be ex-wife Barbara's latest dish

Posted by: Oliver Rose at April 16, 2012 05:23 PM (i6RpT)

127 "I hear they are polishing up Old Winston's Bust for it's probably return to the Oval Office," Winston's "bust"? Is that legal? Girl: "Is this some sort of bust?" Leslie Nielsen: "Uh, yes - it is very nice."

Posted by: Anson Mitchell at April 16, 2012 05:23 PM (IhUxK)

128 i find he pig story pretty easy to believe. I have a friend with horses imported from Russia who got in a hell of a mess due to new regs on imported animals
and ended up with a bunch of 50-70K horses getting destroyed due to the fact they could not pass the new mass spec test for a disease they were already tested for, and passed clean on ten years ago. They lost their asses, then their ranch. You see they were their top breeding horses. It seems if you are connected, or can pay for it, you can get waivers on having to pass the new test or even having to take the test, however.

Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 16, 2012 05:24 PM (r7Ddb)

129 SO

Posted by: nevergiveup at April 16, 2012 05:24 PM (i6RpT)

130 "Parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme..." I loved "Bridge Over Troubled Water." Great music from two leftist fuckers.

Posted by: Anson Mitchell at April 16, 2012 05:25 PM (IhUxK)

131 I loved "Bridge Over Troubled Water." Great music from two leftist fuckers. Posted by: Anson Mitchell at April 16, 2012 09:25 PM (IhUxK) yeah I liked that song also, but then I grew up

Posted by: nevergiveup at April 16, 2012 05:26 PM (i6RpT)

132 Ya know what else can make meat taste bad? When I piss in my soon to be ex-wife Barbara's latest dish

Posted by: Oliver Rose at April 16, 2012 09:23 PM (i6RpT)

****

Oh, how I love that movie!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 16, 2012 05:26 PM (piMMO)

133 During Spring months we couldn't let the dairy cows out to pasture because some of the growth they would eat would make the milk "weedy". That meant the only thing the milk would be used for was cheese at at a reduced price for the milk.

Posted by: Pink Liberation Theologist at April 16, 2012 05:27 PM (XkVVw)

134 127 - Thank you, Doktor! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4Kbyte51MY

Posted by: T Garr at April 16, 2012 05:27 PM (Gc/Qi)

135 Anyone who tells you that you cannot get trichinosis from raw pork is either a liar or an asshole.

I can't find the article where Obama said that. Got a link?

Posted by: jwb7605 at April 16, 2012 05:28 PM (Qxe/p)

136 Of course, Oliver pissed on the fish.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 16, 2012 05:29 PM (piMMO)

137 "Obama looks like he could lose ... he looks black." -CAC

---------------

Heh.

Posted by: Lady in Black.....{sigh} at April 16, 2012 05:29 PM (tfw18)

138

The Concert in Central Park is a great record.

It'd be perfect without the Garfunkel tunes.

Posted by: garrett at April 16, 2012 05:29 PM (WjsFM)

139 the raising of livestock is not for hippies. there is a huge capital outlay that takes years to return. its not like you can go on vacation either. if you're a beginner, research laying hens if you're somewhat out of town. some breeds are actually quite sociable and you don't have to chop their heads off. the eggs are very good compared to store bought and i'm not even a hippy.

Posted by: D. Hopper at April 16, 2012 05:29 PM (AVfT8)

140 Polling guru Nate Silver said that Ras was the worst performer in 2010 among major polls.

Just the facts.

Posted by: Fat Rush Limpcock at April 16, 2012 05:30 PM (z0HdK)

141 We used to feed the pigs unsellable candy from Hershey's. Another kid we knew would pick out the good pieces and bring it to school and sell it.

Posted by: USS Diversity at April 16, 2012 05:30 PM (vpe0k)

142 weiner

Posted by: weiner at April 16, 2012 05:30 PM (xXhWA)

143 neener

Posted by: Neener at April 16, 2012 05:31 PM (piMMO)

144 i'll bet ol' nate is a "polling" expert...

Posted by: D. Hopper at April 16, 2012 05:32 PM (AVfT8)

145 142 weiner Posted by: weiner at April 16, 2012 09:30 PM (xXhWA) *squirt*

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 16, 2012 05:32 PM (niZvt)

146 the eggs are very good compared to store bought and i'm not even a hippy.

Posted by: D. Hopper at April 16, 2012 09:29 PM (AVfT

In what way are they different/better?

Posted by: cm9000 at April 16, 2012 05:33 PM (MwTP4)

147 Ya know what else can make meat taste bad? When I piss in my soon to be ex-wife Barbara's latest dish Make sure she doesn't swap plates.

Posted by: t-bird at April 16, 2012 05:33 PM (FcR7P)

148 141 We used to feed the pigs unsellable candy from Hershey's. Another kid we knew would pick out the good pieces and bring it to school and sell it. Posted by: USS Diversity at April 16, 2012 09:30 PM (vpe0k) Out of the trough, you mean?

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 16, 2012 05:33 PM (niZvt)

149 Out of the trough, you mean?

***

eew!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 16, 2012 05:35 PM (piMMO)

150 "yeah I liked that song also, but then I grew up" Wow - and here I thought that that music was timeless. I guess you go for more of the "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" music now, eh?

Posted by: Anson Mitchell at April 16, 2012 05:35 PM (IhUxK)

151 I have a friend with horses imported from Russia who got in a hell of a mess due to new regs on imported animals and ended up with a bunch of 50-70K horses getting destroyed Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 16, 2012 09:24 PM (r7Ddb) There is a horrible side to the horse industry that we never hear of. This is one organization I donated to this past year; equinevoices.org Horses are being impregnated, scavenged of bio products (in particular estrogen from the mares' urine) and then tossed aside or slaughtered for delicacies shipped to Asia, etc. Equine Voices Rescue & Sanctuary rescues these poor critters to save them from slaughter.

Posted by: save the horses at April 16, 2012 05:35 PM (HOOye)

152 The Telegraph blames Booooshh! "Barack Obama makes Falklands gaffe by calling Malvinas the Maldives Barack Obama made an uncharacteristic error, more akin to those of his predecessor George W Bush, by referring to the Falkland Islands as the Maldives."

Posted by: LASue at April 16, 2012 05:36 PM (I1icO)

153 just tastier, richer. get some of both and try a taste comparison would be my humble suggestion.

Posted by: D. Hopper at April 16, 2012 05:36 PM (AVfT8)

154 Make sure she doesn't swap plates.

****

If you've never seen the movie...do. Kathleen Turner at her very hottest in a marriage gone very, very bad.

Great, brutal movie.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 16, 2012 05:37 PM (piMMO)

155 152 The Telegraph is the British left(well,more left) newspaper I think.

Posted by: steevy at April 16, 2012 05:37 PM (7W3wI)

156 Marine unit returns to using nickname Crusaders The Associated Press Posted : Monday Apr 16, 2012 15:50:28 EDT BEAUFORT, S.C. Â— A Marine flying squadron is again using a nickname a former commander thought was politically incorrect. The Beaufort Gazette reports Marine Fighter Attack Squadron 122 at Marine Corps Air Station Beaufort is once again the Crusaders. The nickname was used from 1958, when the unit got its first Crusader aircraft, until 2008 when deploying to Iraq. The squadronÂ’s commander at that time was quoted as saying using Crusaders for a unit fighting in the Middle East Â“wouldnÂ’t float.Â” So the squadron returned to its World War II nickname Werewolves. The Marine Corps said Monday the change wasnÂ’t about political correctness and Werewolves honored World War II Marines during the unitÂ’s first combat deployment since Vietnam. The current commander says returning to Crusaders after 70 years reflects the unitÂ’s heritage.

Posted by: nevergiveup at April 16, 2012 05:38 PM (i6RpT)

157 "Barack Obama makes Falklands gaffe by calling Malvinas the Maldives
Barack Obama made an uncharacteristic error, more akin to those of his predecessor George W Bush, by referring to the Falkland Islands as the Maldives."

****

reminds me of a scene from My Fellow Americans when the President instructs his aide to make certain that the V.P. refers correctly to the Netherlands, not the Nether Regions.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 16, 2012 05:39 PM (piMMO)

158 In what way are they different/better?

Posted by: cm9000 at April 16, 2012 09:33 PM (MwTP4)

The yolks are a dark yellow instead of a pale yellow. More flavor, and if there is a rooster near by, you get some extra protein.

Posted by: Pink Liberation Theologist at April 16, 2012 05:39 PM (XkVVw)

159 some breeds are actually quite sociable and you don't have to chop their heads off. A nice thing about pigs: pigs'll eat the chickens so you don't have to butcher the damned things when they stop laying. There's a reason we eat eggs and bacon together...

Posted by: t-bird at April 16, 2012 05:40 PM (FcR7P)

160 "The Telegraph is the British left(well,more left) newspaper I think." The Telegraph is allegedly to the right of most of the newspapers, but with Britain that doesn't mean much. The Independent is full-on Left, as is the Mirror; the Times is conservative, while the Daily Mail is pretty fair most of the time.

Posted by: Anson Mitchell at April 16, 2012 05:40 PM (IhUxK)

161

Out of the trough, you mean?

Our pigs didn't rate troughs.

Posted by: USS Diversity at April 16, 2012 05:41 PM (vpe0k)

162 I have to say,I hate the current Obama cocksucking military brass.General Dempsey is a boot licking bitch."We let the boss down."General,the "boss" has let us all down and he is raping the military worst of all.

Posted by: steevy at April 16, 2012 05:41 PM (7W3wI)

163 in commercial egg facilities after 12-18 months, they seal up the building and gas 'em with carbon monoxide and throw 'em away.

Posted by: D. Hopper at April 16, 2012 05:41 PM (AVfT8)

164 they call it the torygraph in england...

Posted by: D. Hopper at April 16, 2012 05:42 PM (AVfT8)

165 That Democrat high was caused by black (and sappy liberal) turnout for His Emptiness. Now, enthusiasm for the SCOAMF is diminished.

Posted by: nickless at April 16, 2012 05:42 PM (MMC8r)

166 I have to say,I hate the current Obama cocksucking military brass.General Dempsey is a boot licking bitch."We let the boss down."General,the "boss" has let us all down and he is raping the military worst of all. Posted by: steevy at April 16, 2012 09:41 PM (7W3wI) Yeah i heard that. Made me sick.

Posted by: nevergiveup at April 16, 2012 05:43 PM (i6RpT)

167 160 Yeah,tough to identify right and left in Europe.Right usually just means slightly less left.

Posted by: steevy at April 16, 2012 05:43 PM (7W3wI)

168 167 That's the same asshole who declared Iran a "rational actor".

Posted by: steevy at April 16, 2012 05:44 PM (7W3wI)

169 i'm still waiting for the troll to present mr. silver's boner fides as a "polling" guru.

Posted by: D. Hopper at April 16, 2012 05:44 PM (AVfT8)

170 That's the same asshole who declared Iran a "rational actor". Posted by: steevy at April 16, 2012 09:44 PM (7W3wI) NOt sure

Posted by: nevergiveup at April 16, 2012 05:44 PM (i6RpT)

171 Well, well, well. SCUD gave away where he's hiding his stash. The Maldives is where the Europeans hide their money from the tax man. High tax rates over there so a lot of hiding of funds going on. It is the European equivalent of the Cayman Islands.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at April 16, 2012 05:44 PM (WUWb9)

172 164 I'd say those limeys could suck my cock but I'd be afraid of getting diseased by theit skank teeth.

Posted by: steevy at April 16, 2012 05:45 PM (7W3wI)

173 Barack Obama made an uncharacteristic error... How the fuck was I supposed to know that one? I was in Pakistan during that war.

Posted by: baraka obama at April 16, 2012 05:45 PM (FcR7P)

174 ]i]... The nickname was used from 1958, when the unit got its first Crusader aircraft, until 2008 when deploying to Iraq. ...

My squadron flew Crusaders, but we were "the Fighting Renegades".
Sounds like this Marine unit has the same attitude.
http://tinyurl.com/d5oz9vm

Posted by: jwb7605 at April 16, 2012 05:46 PM (Qxe/p)

175 telegraph uk (there's also one in oz) has some good writers: Hannen, Delingpole, Harndon and a couple of more i can't recall. Delingpole really goes after the global warming loons and mixes it up with them in the comments, sort of like ace.

Posted by: D. Hopper at April 16, 2012 05:46 PM (AVfT8)

176 I got dinner ready and it is time for me to doff my chapeau and move on. Have a good night, folks.

Posted by: Anson Mitchell at April 16, 2012 05:50 PM (IhUxK)

177 167 I have to say,I hate the current Obama cocksucking military brass.General Dempsey is a boot licking bitch."We let the boss down."General,the "boss" has let us all down and he is raping the military worst of all.
Posted by: steevy at April 16, 2012 09:41 PM (7W3wI)

Yeah i heard that. Made me sick.

Posted by: nevergiveup at April 16, 2012 09:43 PM (i6RpT)

So true!! A month or so I went on a rant on Dempsey. He's a sellout piece of shit. He and the other members of the JCS should have resigned in disgust more than once during JEF's tenure. Off all the folks who should be upholding the constitution. All of them can go to hell as far as I'm concerned. Careerest motherfuckers who could care less about the troops. Okay, will take a break; but he's a dumb cocksucking commie adoring wet noodle dick who lets Ogabe shove pebbles, rocks, and small boulders up the troops asses and then watches just for fun. Too much? I'm just getting started with that patronizing....

As an old unit commander several times over I'm truly disgusted for what passes as "leadership" at the senior levels of the military today. Mid-grade and lower is outstanding but cannot stand a rotting head too much longer. Did I mention Dempsey is an ass kissing SOB? Met and worked with many Army generals while in NATO (no, I didn't wear a blue helmet, you bastards) and they were top notch. How these turds reach the highest levels is beyond me. Guess the good ones have too much self respect. Dempsey will have to suck a lot of donkey dicks just to get his self respect back, if he ever had any to begin with.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at April 16, 2012 05:55 PM (WUWb9)

178

AoSHQ Official Style Guide question: is "hippy" or "hippie" the proper singular noun for worthless dreaming unwashed PsOS who solve all the world's problems, but wake up to find the answer is "there are seven levels"?

Since I've annoyed you all with that, here's a nugget of wisdom as a palate cleanser: "If you set a hippie a fire, he will be warm for a day. If you set a hippie afire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life."

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at April 16, 2012 05:56 PM (ND9u8)

179 Confirming a point- Reuters poll shows Obama over Romney 47-43. % of Democrats in the poll? 47% to R's 38%. Note, again, in 2008- Democrats were 39%. So they are oversampling D's by 8, R's by 6. going off 2008 numbers, and realllly oversampling Democrats and nearly-on-target with Republicans going off 2004 numbers. They can't show Obama winning with realistic party IDs

Posted by: CAC at April 16, 2012 06:43 PM (CyHXz)

180 Ammo Dump 9:55, tell us what you *really* think.

Posted by: Gary Rosen at April 16, 2012 11:36 PM (Kz60W)

181 What are the latest state polls from Virginia, Florida and Ohio? Last I saw, Obama had big leads in all of them and Romeny must win all to win the election.

Posted by: yanks at April 17, 2012 05:38 AM (yg739)

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