April 09, 2012
— DrewM James O'Keefe's team strikes again. This time they walk into a DC polling place and are offered the chance to vote using Eric Holder's ballot.
According to liberals the right to vote is so sacred that it must be left undefended by even the most innocuous (but effective) means of protection.
Via Jeff Emanuel, no what O'Keefe's guy did wasn't illegal.
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That is really nicely said. Original to you?
Posted by: toby928© flaps his blubbering gob at April 09, 2012 06:08 AM (GTbGH)
Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at April 09, 2012 06:09 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: EC at April 09, 2012 06:10 AM (GQ8sn)
They will defend voter fraud to the death!!!
It's their lifeblood.
Posted by: McLovin at April 09, 2012 06:12 AM (j0IcY)
Posted by: supercore23 at April 09, 2012 06:14 AM (bwV72)
Posted by: VKI at April 09, 2012 06:17 AM (TKoA3)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at April 09, 2012 06:18 AM (vHUZA)
Posted by: sickinmass at April 09, 2012 06:19 AM (bcNec)
Posted by: Vic at April 09, 2012 06:19 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at April 09, 2012 06:20 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Palerider at April 09, 2012 06:20 AM (m+nIW)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 06:22 AM (8y9MW)
It just boggles my mind that anyone (without ulterior motives) would have any problems at all with voter ID.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 06:23 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Bitsko at April 09, 2012 06:24 AM (pjKSk)
Really? What did he do that was illegal.
1) The guy in the video never says he's Eric Holder, he asks if they have an Eric Holder on the rolls.
2) When offered a ballot (initially) he says he'd feel more comfortable if they checked his ID (which, if they'd done, would have shown him not to be Eric Holder).
3) He never actually accepts the ballot, even when they tell him they don't need ID.
There's nothing illegal here- except maybe the poll volunteer attempting to convince the stinger that presenting his ID is less-than-desirable.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 06:26 AM (8y9MW)
'Tis true, you know and Eric Holder is a chinless coward of a duplicious bastard.
Posted by: Mr. Dave at April 09, 2012 06:26 AM (OBDWE)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 09, 2012 06:27 AM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: nevergiveup at April 09, 2012 06:27 AM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Lauren at April 09, 2012 06:28 AM (VjYjJ)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 09, 2012 10:27 AM (Ho2rs)
Yes. Epic.
Posted by: Truman North at April 09, 2012 06:28 AM (I2LwF)
There's nothing illegal here- except maybe the poll volunteer attempting to convince the stinger that presenting his ID is less-than-desirable.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 10:26 AM (8y9MW)
Bet they will try to say that filming in a Polling Place is illegal... they gotta come up with somthing to stop the truth from getting out.
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 09, 2012 06:29 AM (lZBBB)
I ban myself for what I was about to write. But no shame, have I
it's going to be a rough year, boys and girls; a very rough year
Posted by: SantaRosaStan, not in Kansas any more at April 09, 2012 06:29 AM (Dll6b)
Are you vying to get your picture in the next edition of the dictionary under the word, "obtuse?" Seriously; when you make a statement like that I feel totally comfortable dismissing everything you say from that point on.
Posted by: Bitsko at April 09, 2012 06:29 AM (pjKSk)
You have to show ID for nearly everything else, but not to vote. That makes sense.
The way O'Keefe et al handled that was very clever. There's no misrepresentation of identity, there's no attempt to vote, there's no acceptance of the ballot. I am interested if what the poll worker did was inappropriate. After all, if there's no requirement to show id, then how is the poll worker supposed to confirm other than taking the person's word for it.
I'll be back faster than you can say furious is a beautiful touch.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 06:30 AM (VtjlW)
You know what I would have found hilarious? If Eric Holder wasn't a registered voter.
Bravo, Mr. O'Keefe. What will MMfA's response be I wonder? Since they more or less dictate White House press releases.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at April 09, 2012 06:30 AM (4df7R)
There is NOBODY of voting age that does not have some sort of photo ID, NOBODY!!
When people start screaming about disenfranchisement ask them who exactly are they talking about, because I know of nobody who does not have some sort of photo ID.
Posted by: McLovin at April 09, 2012 06:30 AM (j0IcY)
Legal, Illegal is all in the eye of Holder at the moment unfortunately. And the govt doesn't have to win to ruin you financially.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 09, 2012 06:31 AM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: Bitsko at April 09, 2012 06:31 AM (pjKSk)
Video that was edited by NBC makes them go yaaaaaaaaawn.
Posted by: laceyunderalls really wants her own Empire at April 09, 2012 06:31 AM (pLTLS)
Maybe, but ginned up charges would actually be a worse response than none at all. Think about it- we know that everything he's done is perfectly legal, and they try to prosecute him anyway? And you know the Media won't be able to help itself from covering the "Scandal," which will allow Conservatives to (rightly) call attention to the political nature of the prosecution, yet further exposing this President as a SCOAMT.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 06:32 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Palerider at April 09, 2012 06:33 AM (m+nIW)
Posted by: The Democratic Party at April 09, 2012 06:33 AM (95Fen)
Posted by: supercore23 at April 09, 2012 06:34 AM (bwV72)
Posted by: fluffy at April 09, 2012 06:34 AM (z9HTb)
I like that. If we're going to have the voter identification standards of a third world country, we might as well vote like a third world country.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 09, 2012 06:34 AM (sbV1u)
Nothing- it's a "barrier of entry" thing. The number of people who will vote fraudulently is higher than the number of people committed enough to that course of action to obtain fake ID, and so forth.
Certainly we want to stop the other stuff, too, but if we can't even institute a basic Voter ID requirement, what chance do we have of stopping it in the first place?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 06:36 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at April 09, 2012 06:36 AM (vHUZA)
Two words: Ted fuckin' Kennedy.
We already do.
Posted by: fluffy, Masshole at April 09, 2012 06:37 AM (z9HTb)
O'Keefe - Just doing the job that investigative journalists forgot how to do or refuse to do.....
Don't forget to drop over to Project Veritas' webpage and drop them a donation so O'Keefe can continue to dazzle!
Posted by: Cat at April 09, 2012 06:38 AM (oVmNQ)
To win the election Romney will need to win either Ohio, Pennsylvania or Michigan (along with Florida). Thing is, Romney not only needs to win at least one of the aforementioned states he needs to win by in excess of the margin of Democrat voter fraud. A 5,000 vote margin of actual votes in Romney's favor, for example, won't cut it. The Dems in that event will steal the election. Literally.
Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at April 09, 2012 10:20 AM (r2PLg)
Here's a good one:
The governor of PA recently signed a voter ID bill into law. It includes college IDs as a valid for of identification but here's the catch: the ID must have an expiration date. Few college IDs do.
You should've read the article I read about it. New York and New Jersey students were caterwauling about how their college ID had no expiration and their drivers licenses wouldn't "cut it".
Boo fricking hoo. They should all be voting absentee anyways.
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 09, 2012 06:39 AM (7+pP9)
Legal, Illegal is all in the eye of Holder at the moment unfortunately. And the govt doesn't have to win to ruin you financially.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 09, 2012 10:31 AM (tf9Ne)
This.
Posted by: VKI at April 09, 2012 06:39 AM (TKoA3)
Posted by: Jean at April 09, 2012 06:39 AM (WkuV6)
I was referring to the sight of millions of Americans walking our of the polling place with purple thumbs.
But speaking as a former Masshole myself, I hear ya brother, I hear ya.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 09, 2012 06:39 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at April 09, 2012 06:40 AM (QTHTd)
and using indelible ink to mark that folks have voted.
I want the purple ink stain finger thing so bad. Mainly so I can vote early and then be all I voted did yooooouuuuu *waggle waggle finger* to everyone all day.
I was so ticked off when they stopped handing out I Voted! stickers at my polling place. The entire point of going as soon as the polls open is to get the sticker, slap it on and then be all snotty about how much better you are the rest of the day.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 06:40 AM (VtjlW)
That's why he has other people do the stings now.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 06:41 AM (8y9MW)
The reason it happened is that the individual was a replacement for a female worker who was absent for health related issues, namely her inability to obtain free contraceptives.
We could uncover absolutely no additional issues.
Posted by: DC Poll Workers Union 666 at April 09, 2012 06:41 AM (Qxe/p)
O'Keefe? Hell, as long as he voted the democratic ticket, I'm all for it.
Posted by: Eric Holder at April 09, 2012 06:42 AM (zKFOT)
Does titanium show up on most metal detectors?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 09, 2012 06:42 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Jean at April 09, 2012 06:42 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: Retread at April 09, 2012 06:42 AM (joSBv)
Posted by: Jean at April 09, 2012 10:39 AM (WkuV6)
This is actually how it happened in RI. A Democratic representative and her daughter had their ballots stolen by someone. She submitted a bill, and the other Democrats voted for it.
Posted by: Truman North at April 09, 2012 06:43 AM (I2LwF)
It would also be easier to convict a case of voter fraud if caught with the fake ID. Which would clearly show intent to defraud instead of "Oh I just misspoke the name" so the risk to vote illegally goes up quite a bit.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 09, 2012 06:43 AM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: dagny at April 09, 2012 06:44 AM (CMM9V)
"I'll be back fast and furious"!
Epic!
He never accepted, nor touched the ballot and never signed.
Posted by: Cicero Kid at April 09, 2012 06:44 AM (if4hz)
I think I'll be booking a flight to Milwaukee on June 12. Rent a car from old General Mitchell airport, take the family up to the Dells...then on to Green Bay...then maybe over to Sheboygan...then down to Janesville...then back to Milwaukee.
I'll be voting under the name Ray Nitschke.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 09, 2012 06:44 AM (Ec6wH)
The governor of PA recently signed a voter ID bill into law. It includes college IDs as a valid for of identification but here's the catch: the ID must have an expiration date. Few college IDs do.
Really? I vaguely recall that my college IDs had at least valid only for X to Y school year.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 06:44 AM (VtjlW)
#12 Pennsylvania passed a voter ID law. It remains to be seen how it will be enforced, but I am hoping the Governor has the stones to do it in Philly. They haven't cleaned up the voter rolls there in years, and there are solid reports of people being bussed in from New York and Connecticut to vote in the names of people who moved away or died. There are dozens of precincts where there are more people registered to vote than there are people listed on the Census, and mysteriously these same precincts manage a 100% turnout with 100% of the votes going to the Democrat, in every presidential election. This is the only reason John Kerry carried PA in 2004. The question is whether we can find people with the guts to go into some of these inner-city precincts and make sure people are being asked for their ID.
I am hopeful in Virginia, because one of my best friends is the new registrar in Fairfax County and she will not put up with any fraud. It's the biggest county in VA and has trended Democrat in recent years. If Obama doesn't win it he can't win the state and probably can't win the election.
Posted by: rockmom at April 09, 2012 06:45 AM (aBlZ1)
Posted by: Jean at April 09, 2012 06:45 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: toby928© flaps his blubbering gob at April 09, 2012 06:46 AM (GTbGH)
Posted by: ejo at April 09, 2012 06:46 AM (slp7M)
Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at April 09, 2012 06:46 AM (niW49)
That's why he has other people do the stings now.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 10:41 AM (8y9MW)
Metal detectors aren't necessary. The clanking gives him away.
Posted by: grognard, SMOD-Squad at April 09, 2012 06:46 AM (NS2Mo)
That's true in this area.
Parking permits, etc.
Posted by: jwb7605 at April 09, 2012 06:46 AM (Qxe/p)
Not letting dead people vote is racist.
Posted by: Stupid Lefty at April 09, 2012 06:46 AM (M0NzJ)
Posted by: dfbaskwill at April 09, 2012 06:47 AM (71LDo)
Ha! I was about to say the same thing. My college ID had my class year on it. No expiration date, but it was pretty clear as to when you were expected to go out and be an adult.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 09, 2012 06:47 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: nevergiveup at April 09, 2012 06:47 AM (i6RpT)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 10:36 AM (8y9MW)
I agree with you, but I can see some problems.
#1, where is the voter fraud coming from?
#2, even if you were showing ID in that area, what makes you think they would care?
Posted by: HH at April 09, 2012 06:47 AM (KB0hv)
Posted by: Jean at April 09, 2012 06:48 AM (WkuV6)
I want thepurple ink stain finger thing so bad. Mainly so I can vote early and then be allI voteddid yooooouuuuu *waggle waggle finger* toeveryone all day. <<<<
Too messy and obtrusive. An ear tag, nipple ring or collar would be more practical and stylish.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 09, 2012 06:48 AM (N/cWt)
You have to show a DL or prove you are a local resident, with two or more documents, to get a library card.
Every one has ID.
The demoncrats want voter fraud. They need voter fraud. I'd prefer that you thank me, but failing that, grap a weapon and get on that wall and save lives by allowing voter fraud.
(Apologies to Col. Jesup.)
Posted by: Jack at April 09, 2012 06:48 AM (zKFOT)
Posted by: dagny at April 09, 2012 06:48 AM (CMM9V)
Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 09, 2012 06:48 AM (RfvTE)
Posted by: Trayvon at April 09, 2012 06:49 AM (WUWb9)
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Maybe, but ginned up charges would actually be a worse response than none at all. Think about it- we know that everything he's done is perfectly legal, and they try to prosecute him anyway? And you know the Media won't be able to help itself from covering the "Scandal," which will allow Conservatives to (rightly) call attention to the political nature of the prosecution, yet further exposing this President as a SCOAMT.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 10:32 AM (8y9MW)
I really wish I could believe that. The Media is still perfectly capable of framing the story as "Republicans are trying to steal the election." Think of how many people still think Breitbart edited the Sherrod tapes, that the Sherrod tapes were about Sherrod and not the audience reaction, that James O'Keefe tried to tap a congresswoman's phone line.
Posted by: VKI at April 09, 2012 06:49 AM (TKoA3)
Posted by: dagny at April 09, 2012 06:49 AM (CMM9V)
Posted by: nevergiveup at April 09, 2012 06:50 AM (i6RpT)
Posted by: toby928© flaps his blubbering gob at April 09, 2012 06:50 AM (GTbGH)
I've never been asked for ID at my polling place...and I vote in the same town as you. Just not same precinct.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 09, 2012 06:51 AM (sbV1u)
At least they have been forced out of the closet as dependent on widespread voter fraud.
Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 09, 2012 06:51 AM (RfvTE)
When you realize that showing ID is racist, it's easy to see why the black community is so angry--every damned business in the country is racist!
Posted by: jimmuy at April 09, 2012 06:51 AM (kSaUf)
Posted by: Jean at April 09, 2012 06:51 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: AG Holder at April 09, 2012 06:51 AM (mQMnK)
Posted by: toby928© flaps his blubbering gob at April 09, 2012 06:52 AM (GTbGH)
Really? I vaguely recall that my college IDs had at least valid only for X to Y school year.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 10:44 AM (VtjlW)
Not anymore, apparently. Some college administrator commented about how students leave mid-semester or at the end of a semester when the school year doesn't end.
Back in the day lots of colleges just changed the color of the IDs to make the old ones invalid, but the present PA law states an actual expiration date must be on the card. I guarantee their will be tons of court challenges between now and November.
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 09, 2012 06:52 AM (7+pP9)
They do.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 09, 2012 06:52 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 09, 2012 06:54 AM (UOM48)
Mainly so I can vote early and then be allI voteddid yooooouuuuu *waggle waggle finger* toeveryone all day.
I do this all the time.
Posted by: Dikembe Mutombo at April 09, 2012 06:54 AM (GrlY1)
#2, even if you were showing ID in that area, what makes you think they would care?
It doesn't matter. If Voter ID is required- then people who want to cast fraudulent votes have to obtain fake ID. That's a much harder (and more dangerous, for a variety of reasons) thing to do than just show up and say, "My Name is Eric Holder," for instance.
Requiring ID to drink isn't fool-proof, either, but it's a pretty solid first step.
So what you do (in the interests of limited government) is require Voter ID, and then evaluate if you still have a vote fraud problem, and how to address it at that point.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 06:54 AM (8y9MW)
The GOP in PA is wise to these tricks now, so all the districts outside of Philly just count really really slowly until they see 100% reporting from SE Penn.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 09, 2012 06:55 AM (9t6jP)
Fuck them.
Posted by: supercore23 at April 09, 2012 10:34 AM (bwV72)
I can't imagine a bigger crime against the state yet they let them off, when they bother to pursue the cases, with a relative slap on the wrist.
Posted by: Captain Hate at April 09, 2012 06:55 AM (oxE0x)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 09, 2012 06:56 AM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: nevergiveup at April 09, 2012 06:57 AM (i6RpT)
Perhaps the ultimate instance of this hypocrisy was when Eric Holder went to the LBJ Library in Texas to rail against that stateÂ’s voter ID law, which DOJ sued to invalidate shortly thereafter. Sure enough: you couldnÂ’t get in to see Holder denounce identification requirements as racist unless you had a photo ID.
The video shows a young man entering a Washington, DC polling place at 3401 Nebraska Avenue, NW, on primary day of this year--April 3, 2012--and giving [US Attorney General Eric] HolderÂ’s name and address. The poll worker promptly offers the young man HolderÂ’s ballot to vote.
Our Department of Justice is an ass.
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at April 09, 2012 06:57 AM (e8kgV)
The town I live in is so small that everyone knows everyone else. When I go vote, I get greeted by my name. Then I get asked, politely, for my DL or ID and I go vote.
The inherit racism makes it nearly an unbearable experience.
Posted by: garrett at April 09, 2012 06:58 AM (GrlY1)
Posted by: BillyBob at April 09, 2012 06:58 AM (F0Pf9)
Just like they turned their assault on liberty with contraception into a "war on wimmin."
Just like they tried to turn fast and furious into a war for gun control.
Just like they tried to turn keystone pipeline into "republicans in the way of energy"
Just like they tried to turn Trayvon killing into a race war and a war against guns.
I mention here mostly the ones that have mostly or sorta failed.. though not for lack of trying and coordination. Just simply that most Americans have really started to tune them out. If your plan is "wait for the other team to fumble" ... its a shitty plan.
Remember when Osama bin Laden attacked the twin towers in 1993? Failed. When your enemy is trying and failing it also means they are experimenting and adapting. What the F are we doing? Waiting on another fumble?
Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 09, 2012 07:00 AM (RfvTE)
Certainly the media would try to frame it that way. Look how well "That racist white, err... white hispanic, guy shot that poor angel of a black kid" is working. That is to say- not very, anymore. So I'm not terribly concerned with that.
As for the Breitbart/Sherrod tapes- that was private citizen vs. private citizen, so a different standard applies.
The closest you get is the phone tapping allegation- and that, too, is a different thing- trying to tap someone's phone-line is an invasion of privacy, among other things. Walking up to a polling station and saying, "Do you have a ballot for Eric Holder" or "John Paul Jones," or "Yogi Berra," or something like that is different- it's an obvious "punking," and the fact that they're getting offered ballots is a huge embarrassment for the Left.
That's why the Media isn't covering these stings.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 07:00 AM (8y9MW)
My polling place always makes me present ID. However, the people that live in my neighborhood are actually in the "maker" class. We have plenty of "takers" in the county, though. Montgomery County, Ohio, was one of several counties in Ohio that had more people vote during the November 2008 election than there were registered voters!
The reaction by Governor Strickland and his administration (all D-onks) was that there was no problem and no need for any investigation.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at April 09, 2012 07:03 AM (M0NzJ)
I'm so fucking sick and tired of seeing pickup trucks and people who are clearly able to walk on their own power get preferential parking over that stupid law.
And I'm about this close to stealing the curtsey scooters and driving it to the back of the store and shorting out the battery. Damned fat bastards, it ain't no medical condition that made you fat, it's a hand-to-mouth condition and it ain't my fucking fault so why do you think you have the right to block the whole damned isle while you debate which high-fat, high-carb pre-cooked teevee dinner to buy?
Posted by: jimmuy at April 09, 2012 07:04 AM (kSaUf)
Ahhh, I'm not being clear on the subject.
What I'm getting at, if there are clear pockets of voter fraud, then I don't see how ID's would make any difference. The outcome is already pretty much fixed.
ID's would however, slow down or eleminate a broader fraud, spread out.
HTH...
Posted by: HH at April 09, 2012 07:04 AM (KB0hv)
Damned fat bastards, it ain't no medical condition that made you fat, it's a hand-to-mouth condition and it ain't my fucking fault so why do you think you have the right to block the whole damned isle while you debate which high-fat, high-carb pre-cooked teevee dinner to buy?
I've got gout!!!
Posted by: Bobby Hill at April 09, 2012 07:05 AM (Ec6wH)
The town I live in is so small that everyone knows everyone else. When I go vote, I get greeted by my name. Then I get asked, politely, for my DL or ID and I go vote.
Yup, my poll workers knew me by sight and I was still asked to sign legibly and to confirm that they had checked off the right name.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 07:05 AM (VtjlW)
Hard to imagine Barky never heard a morsel of the hate whitey rage that SOB spewed for the twenty years the Barkster and Moochelle attended. Imagine raising your kids listening to that crap.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 09, 2012 07:05 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: Jimmah at April 09, 2012 07:06 AM (UpwlP)
I'm convinced that without voter fraud the Dems would be swept out of every margially Democrat leaning district in the country. O'keefe is just poking around the edges on this userptation of our system. This is a really BFD and just the tip of the ice-berg.
Posted by: dananjcon at April 09, 2012 07:06 AM (8ieXv)
We are so profoundly screwed.
Happy Monday!
Posted by: real joe at April 09, 2012 07:06 AM (KDLYC)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 09, 2012 07:06 AM (UOM48)
Well, in a couple of ways.
First off, if there are "clear pockets of voter fraud" then those precincts should be fairly easy to track down- and even easier once voter ID is required. It would, of course, require Government to want to do something about it... but that will always be part of the problem.
Second- like I said- barrier to entry. The sheer number of fraudulent votes would go down, decreasing the dilution of "good" votes.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 07:06 AM (8y9MW)
I hear ya. They just built a new Cabela's here and there are no less then 20 handi parking spots near the entrance. Cabela's!
Posted by: Jack Boehner at April 09, 2012 07:07 AM (EL+OC)
Our granddaughters will wonder why we put up with such corruption, and mis-treatment from such obvious shit-weasels. (like the garden weasel.. but only works in cow shit)
Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 09, 2012 07:07 AM (RfvTE)
Obvious much?
Posted by: mama winger at April 09, 2012 07:07 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: nevergiveup at April 09, 2012 07:08 AM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Jeremiah at April 09, 2012 11:05 AM (OhYCU)
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If that was supposed to be funny, don't quit your day job.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at April 09, 2012 07:08 AM (M0NzJ)
Posted by: mama winger at April 09, 2012 07:09 AM (P6QsQ)
That case is going straight to the state supreme court though, so there's some hope that lefty judge gets overturned by then.
Posted by: GMan at April 09, 2012 07:09 AM (sxq57)
This is simple.
Why do we have to show ID to get booze? To prove we're 21 - that's the legal drinking age in all 50 states.
Why don't I have to show ID to prove I'm above 18? - that's the legal voting age.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 09, 2012 07:09 AM (fwARV)
Posted by: eman at April 09, 2012 07:10 AM (SkRNT)
Posted by: GMan at April 09, 2012 11:09 AM
God willing, it will be in time.
Posted by: mama winger at April 09, 2012 07:10 AM (P6QsQ)
My lord. Really?
How do they guarantee residency? "Bill in my name? Oh, no, I just moved here 29 days ago, I haven't received any utility bills yet..."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 07:10 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at April 09, 2012 11:08 AM (M0NzJ)
He's repeating what Rev. Wright barked.
Posted by: Jack Boehner at April 09, 2012 07:11 AM (EL+OC)
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at April 09, 2012 11:08 AM (M0NzJ)
That was a quote by Jeremiah Wright.
http://tinyurl.com/6v6uecn
Posted by: jwb7605 at April 09, 2012 07:11 AM (Qxe/p)
You know what else the law requires vendors ID before selling you when you're 18?
Paint.
Cigarettes.
But, somehow, painting and smoking aren't racist.
The mind. It boggles.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 07:11 AM (8y9MW)
And I'm about this close to stealing the curtsey scooters and driving it to the back of the store and shorting out the battery.
Two different issues. One is fraud and abuse aided by the government on behalf of one person and against another; the other is a business catering to fat bastards. While annoying, it's their decision to make.
Posted by: Truman North at April 09, 2012 07:11 AM (I2LwF)
Posted by: supercore23 at April 09, 2012 07:12 AM (bwV72)
Posted by: Jean at April 09, 2012 07:12 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: nevergiveup at April 09, 2012 07:12 AM (i6RpT)
How do they guarantee residency? "Bill in my name? Oh, no, I just moved here 29 days ago, I haven't received any utility bills yet..."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 11:10 AM
You got it. Show up with a piece of mail with your name on it. Only a 28 day residency requirement too. If you don't have a piece of mail, you can have a friend vouch for you if your friend is a previously-registered voter.
There is nothing, NOTHING, from preventing folks from Illinois to come up here, rent an apartment for a month, get a piece of mail delivered to them at that address, and vote in our elections. Whole bunches of union thugs from Chicago can rent a room together just for this purpose. And they do.
Posted by: mama winger at April 09, 2012 07:13 AM (P6QsQ)
The laws that Holder is blocking are the one that require a photo ID.
Posted by: Vic at April 09, 2012 07:14 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Jean at April 09, 2012 07:15 AM (WkuV6)
That damned thing is roaring like a jet engine now and will roar like a Saturn 5 this Fall.
Posted by: eman at April 09, 2012 11:10 AM (SkRNT)
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Stay optimistic: despite all the cheerleading by all the leftists, I think the SCOAMF is in trouble. Things are grim out there. High unemployment, high fuel prices, high food prices, devalued currency -- I just can't believe that a majority of Americans want more of this.
That being said, there are systemic problems that aren't going away just because the SCOAMF goes on funemployment in November.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at April 09, 2012 07:16 AM (M0NzJ)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 11:06 AM (8y9MW)
We are only NOW starting to see some Voter Fraud cases from the LAST Presidential Election...
Because there are two entities who must enforce the law... Election Boards, which are Political... and District Attorneys who hide behind 'Prosecutorial Discretion'.... who also run for election...
Add in the Federal Election Commision? And all of the 'watchdogs' have a vested interest in the Status Quo.
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 09, 2012 07:16 AM (lZBBB)
I haven't looked into it yet, but a recent Michael Savage video said something about vote counting to a company in Spain that are big Obama donors.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmJtaOO2etc
Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 09, 2012 07:16 AM (RfvTE)
Lottery tickets.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 09, 2012 07:17 AM (fwARV)
"And I'm about this close to stealing the curtsey scooters and driving it to the back of the store and shorting out the battery"
All I going to say on this subject...
I think I have only seen once or twice someone using those scooters who actually had a cast on their leg or a foot bandaged.
All the other times? Large people.
And I've seen this a lot!
My .O2...
Posted by: HH at April 09, 2012 07:17 AM (KB0hv)
Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 09, 2012 07:18 AM (RfvTE)
Posted by: eman at April 09, 2012 07:18 AM (SkRNT)
Posted by: Don Lemon, CNN at April 09, 2012 07:18 AM (NbZqQ)
You know what else the law requires vendors ID before selling you when you're 18?
Cuntraception?
Posted by: Sandra Falco at April 09, 2012 07:18 AM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: Jean at April 09, 2012 11:15 AM
Yeah, that too. The way elections are run here is ridiculous. So when the Wisconsin legislature went Republican in 2010, that's one of the first things they started working on. Of course, it doesn't seem to matter what the legislature or Walker do here - some lefty in Madison will just declare it unconstitutional and tie it up in court. Madison progressives think they can just unilaterally make decisions for the whole state. That's why keeping Justice Prosser on the court last year was so very critical.
Posted by: mama winger at April 09, 2012 07:18 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at April 09, 2012 07:19 AM (niW49)
I love the snark in his headline: "White Man Offered Eric Holder's Ballot."
See? Not having Voter ID laws is racist.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 07:19 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: nevergiveup at April 09, 2012 11:12 AM (i6RpT)
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Thanks for clarifying that. I had a hunch that it was supposed to be a spoof on the "Reverend" *spit* Jeremiah Wright but the poster failed in making it clear if it was snark or a troll throwing poo.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at April 09, 2012 07:20 AM (M0NzJ)
Posted by: eman at April 09, 2012 07:20 AM (SkRNT)
Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 09, 2012 07:21 AM (RfvTE)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 07:21 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Don Lemon, CNN at April 09, 2012 11:18 AM (NbZqQ)
Actually, Don, you should be able to say "f*cking n*gger" the way I did on air.
Posted by: Susan Candiotti, CNN scrunt at April 09, 2012 07:21 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: HH at April 09, 2012 11:17 AM (KB0hv)
Well... according to the Left, we CAN yell, scream, and Shame people IF its for an environmental reason...
Now... fat people, having more mass, use more O2, and exhale more CO2... ergo they are worse for global warming than a smaller person (and yes, this was an actual Global Warmist meme a couple of weeks ago)...
So... find that article... and use it as your justification to call the LardAss because they are destroying the environment?
Alinsky... can be sooooo much fun...
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 09, 2012 07:22 AM (lZBBB)
My problem with going Alinsky is that I still have some shreds of decency, dignity, and shame left.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 07:23 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 09, 2012 07:25 AM (RfvTE)
Posted by: Jordan at April 09, 2012 07:25 AM (RSG1I)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 07:25 AM (8y9MW)
My problem with going Alinsky is that I still have some shreds of decency, dignity, and shame left.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 11:23 AM (8y9MW)
Concur.... I'm actualy one of the few around here who do NOT want us to use Alinsky tactics... and have argued such on a few threads...
But one who strives to be Righteous... one who knows evil... even has evil thoughts... but chooses from Free Will to do the right thing....
That was just my evil thoughts leaking out... LOL
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 09, 2012 07:27 AM (lZBBB)
from fox business
http://tinyurl.com/6qfuvhd
"states have been forced to cut government services to balance their budgets. In the 2011 fiscal year, 29 states made cuts to services benefiting the disabled and elderly, 34 reduced funds for K-12 and early education, and all but six states reduced positions, benefits or wages of government employees. The states that raised revenue from taxes the most are no different. Of the six states that raised tax revenue the most, five recently cut services in at least two of the following areas: public health, the elderly or disabled, K-12 and early education, higher education, and the state workforce."
Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 09, 2012 07:27 AM (RfvTE)
Posted by: Jean at April 09, 2012 07:27 AM (WkuV6)
FOADIAF Troll.
We've already provided a laundry list of things which already require picture ID to obtain legally by the time you're 18. Things that these same people we're supposed to feel sorry for over Voter ID do every day.
As for the rest of your post- I'm not even addressing such blatant BS.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 07:27 AM (8y9MW)
STFU, dunce. Just admit you're an amoral, corrupt motherfucker who supports vote fraud as long as it helps Democrats win, and you'll save everyone a lot of time.
Posted by: grognard, SMOD-Squad at April 09, 2012 07:28 AM (NS2Mo)
Posted by: wheatie at April 09, 2012 07:29 AM (+5U+B)
Posted by: Jean at April 09, 2012 07:29 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: eman at April 09, 2012 11:20 AM (SkRNT)
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I agree. I just was worried that you were prematurely accepting defeat. The Democrats have NOTHING to offer in the way of achievements for all their talk of having the answers. Personally, I'd like to go back the hellish conditions that existed during most of GWB's administration where unemployment was less than 4% and gasoline cost about $1.75. Bowing and scraping before America's enemies is also unimpressive for most of the U.S. population.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at April 09, 2012 07:29 AM (M0NzJ)
"My problem with going Alinsky is that I still have some shreds of decency, dignity, and shame left."
There are those who would point out that that is why you would lose.
Posted by: HH at April 09, 2012 07:29 AM (KB0hv)
Children and inner city minorities the left treats as children. I guess if someone is providing you housing, food, and an allowance you don't really need to enter into the adult world.
Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 09, 2012 07:29 AM (RfvTE)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky: ABO 2012 at April 09, 2012 07:30 AM (baL2B)
Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at April 09, 2012 07:31 AM (UU0OF)
Don't they insist on reminding us it's the Democrat party.
Just in case their blood-sucking parasitic behavior has already given you involuntary twitches.
Posted by: DaveA at April 09, 2012 07:31 AM (onSRg)
Posted by: mama winger at April 09, 2012 07:31 AM (P6QsQ)
I would dispute this. No one has ever produce even a single actual voter who has been harmed by voter-id requirements.
Posted by: toby928© flaps his blubbering gob at April 09, 2012 07:31 AM (GTbGH)
If the only way to win is to compromise my morals, I'd rather lose. I only have to deal with this crap for a short time (relatively speaking), I have to deal with the moral consequences of my choices for eternity.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 07:31 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Jordan at April 09, 2012 11:25 AM (RSG1I
I hope you don't leave your mom's basement without a protective helmet, you idiot.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 09, 2012 07:32 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: wheatie at April 09, 2012 07:32 AM (+5U+B)
There are those who would point out thatthatis why you would lose. Posted by: HH
My personal views are right in between your two. Think about our soldiers, I don't care if they set a trap for bad guys, but I don't want them free to say threaten civilians to flush out bad guys.
You can play rough and be in it to win it without losing your soul. I always say what Andrew Breitbart did (to mix metaphors) was show us how to monkey wrench their machine without simply becomeing a monster even larger nad more ruthless then them. (which was how they got attained power in the first place)
Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 09, 2012 07:32 AM (RfvTE)
Well, ID would prevent that because you have to sign in with a name. If you sign in as "James Smith", but your ID is "John Brown"...you shouldn't be voting in that precinct.
Posted by: GMan at April 09, 2012 07:33 AM (sxq57)
Posted by: Ammo Dump at April 09, 2012 07:33 AM (WUWb9)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo
Heh, do those actually work on brass?
Posted by: DaveA at April 09, 2012 07:33 AM (onSRg)
Children and inner city minorities the left treats as children. I guess if someone is providing you housing, food, and an allowance you don't really need to enter into the adult world.
Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 09, 2012 11:29 AM (RfvTE)
False. Inner city minorities need an ID to obtain their benefits.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 09, 2012 07:34 AM (fwARV)
See, it's those scooters that are causing the recovery to be so slow!
Posted by: Barack Obama, SCOAMT at April 09, 2012 07:34 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Captain Hate at April 09, 2012 10:55 AM (oxE0x)
Well, the state (especially as currently administered) doesn't see this kind of thing as an attack on itself. It's just an attack on other citizens, who have their votes dilluted. The government really only gets upset when you attack it directly, or try to prevent it from taking money it wants. In those cases, watch out. It'll pound you into the dirt. But if all you want to do is screw over other regular people, the state is pretty much OK with that.
Posted by: Reactionary at April 09, 2012 07:34 AM (xUM1Q)
Posted by: toby928© flaps his blubbering gob at April 09, 2012 07:34 AM (GTbGH)
OK cuntface, how does showing ID make it harder to vote, if you have the right to vote? You and your fellow scumbags are just all about fraud to keep Democrats in office, just admit it.
Posted by: real joe at April 09, 2012 07:34 AM (KDLYC)
Posted by: DANEgerus at April 09, 2012 07:35 AM (e3/KR)
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 09, 2012 07:35 AM (7+pP9)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 09, 2012 11:34 AM (fwARV)
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Right. And even 3rd world nations have no trouble issuing valid State IDs, if the Dominian Republic is any guide. The refusal to require it for voting is an utterly transparent defense of voter fraud.
Posted by: Reactionary at April 09, 2012 07:36 AM (xUM1Q)
And I don't have a problem with a little "political jiujitsu" or whatever- but going Full Alinsky makes me a little nervous- I'm afraid we'll lose what we're fighting for, even while winning the war.
Posted by: Barack Obama, SCOAMT at April 09, 2012 07:36 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Jordan at April 09, 2012 11:25 AM (RSG1I)
Screw you Axelrod.
Please point to a single case of voter suppression by Republicans anywhere - anytime. Make it difficult to obtain ID - give me a break. Show me a Republican effort to ban voter registration - I dare you. Oh but we do uncover fraudulent voter registration efforts by the Dems - is that what you mean?
I can easily point to cases of voter suppression by Democrats - remember all those cases of black voter suppression in the south in the 1940's and 1950's - those were all Democrats thank you. Or how about the Black Panther suppression in the 2008 election?
Posted by: An Observation at April 09, 2012 07:37 AM (ylhEn)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 07:37 AM (8y9MW)
make it difficult and expensive to obtain ID
It's free in PA. In fact I think they're free in every state that requires a picture ID to vote.
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 09, 2012 07:37 AM (7+pP9)
Posted by: Jean at April 09, 2012 07:39 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 09, 2012 07:39 AM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: mama winger at April 09, 2012 07:39 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Jordan at April 09, 2012 07:39 AM (RSG1I)
Yep, that's what I was talking about.
On the one hand: creepy Cult of Personality crap.
On the other: Getting to slam the likeness of Barky's face into a basketball court over and over and over...
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 07:39 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: toby928© flaps his blubbering gob at April 09, 2012 07:40 AM (GTbGH)
Posted by: real joe at April 09, 2012 07:40 AM (KDLYC)
False. Inner city minorities need an ID to obtain their benefits.
Yup. I have never understood why opposition to voter fraud is a partisan issue. Voter fraud is an attack on the concept of democracy itself. I can comprehend arguing over the best way to combat it but I've had fights with people who seem to believe that any attempts whatsoever to ensure that fraud does not take place are wrong/racist/evil/etc.
I would like to see the rules on obtaining absentee ballots tightened. Either go with the system in Oregon (I think) where everyone votes by mail or make the voter prove they will be absent or cannot get to the polls due to infirmity or other disability.
Don't get me started on the games with military ballots. It is utterly vile that those ballots are not the very first ones to go out.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 07:40 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: jwb7605 at April 09, 2012 07:40 AM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: BuddyPC at April 09, 2012 07:41 AM (V2l8v)
Posted by: Havedash at April 09, 2012 07:41 AM (F0WNa)
That would be Texas where the Legislature is still in session, right Jordan?
Don't speak when you're ignorant- it'll save you a lot of pain.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 07:41 AM (8y9MW)
tiny.cc/fd8hcw
WTF?!
Posted by: laceyunderalls really wants her own Empire at April 09, 2012 11:38 AM (pLTLS)
There's a slightly creepy cult of personality about him ... but only slightly, though definitely creepy.
Posted by: Evan Thomas, Newsweak Geenyus at April 09, 2012 07:41 AM (X3lox)
"If the only way to win is to compromise my morals, I'd rather lose."
I'm not talking about that. Just fight fire with fire. I've been reading Breitbarts' book. That is what he advocates...
Posted by: HH at April 09, 2012 07:41 AM (KB0hv)
Posted by: Jordan at April 09, 2012 11:25 AM (RSG1I)
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LOL. The only people doing any voter suppression are the Libtards, via their thugs. And the ACORN sting proved that any amount of so-called vote suppression is rendered utterly insignificant by the amount of false registrations, including multiple registrations of the same people in different voting districts.
In any case, the libtard's position is always to maximize the number of minimally committed, minimally educated voters. They are the ones who will most reliably vote for the leftist candidate, thereby supplementing their fraud efforts. They're already trying to get convicted felons their voting rights back - which is proof enough of what kind of people the leftists are. They know that criminal scum see more to like in the Left than they do in the Right.
Posted by: Reactionary at April 09, 2012 07:41 AM (xUM1Q)
The question then becomes, are there enough aware and educated in liberty and where the current system goes wrong, to rebuild our institutions? If you twisted your soul for power and win at any cost through any means, then such poison would live on in the institutions you create. Much like parents who find their old behaviors suddenly living on through their children.
Kinda a large and complex topic, apologies if I didn't word it coherently enough.
Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 09, 2012 07:41 AM (RfvTE)
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at April 09, 2012 11:03 AM (M0NzJ)
Twitch was the worst fucking governor I can remember; much worse than that goof Taft or Dick "Clinton North" Celeste. I can't think of a single thing he did in his four years in office that worked out positively.
Posted by: Captain Hate at April 09, 2012 07:42 AM (oxE0x)
Anyone?
Anyone?
Bueller?
Posted by: Jay Bee at April 09, 2012 07:42 AM (Xwgt3)
Posted by: Jean at April 09, 2012 07:42 AM (WkuV6)
Requiring citizens to obtain free government-issued ID for the privilege of voting: too burdensome and invasive.
Requiring citizens to purchase expensive government-approved health insurance for the privilege of existing: not too burdensome and invasive.
Posted by: Irony Meter at April 09, 2012 07:42 AM (WvS06)
Someone upthread mentioned the 'purple finger' way of verifying who has already voted. .....I'm all for it.
A stamp on the back of the hand, like they do at bars, is not a bad idea either. ....We need both. Photo ID and an indelible ink mark of some sort.
Posted by: wheatie at April 09, 2012 07:43 AM (+5U+B)
Must be tough going through life as a penis head. Just the head, no more. Certainly not the balls.
Posted by: tcn at April 09, 2012 07:44 AM (WhSRj)
Bull. Wisconsin expanded DMV hours to accomodate more people. And its free.
Posted by: mama winger at April 09, 2012 07:44 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Daniel Jeyn at April 09, 2012 07:44 AM (jBA6+)
Posted by: Daniel Jeyn at April 09, 2012 07:45 AM (jBA6+)
Posted by: GMan at April 09, 2012 07:45 AM (sxq57)
Posted by: supercore23 at April 09, 2012 07:46 AM (bwV72)
Posted by: toby928© flaps his blubbering gob at April 09, 2012 07:46 AM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Jean at April 09, 2012 07:47 AM (WkuV6)
No, I don't. On the other hand Minnesota is way more lefty than Wisconsin. We've lurched to the right in a wondrous way recently.
Posted by: mama winger at April 09, 2012 07:47 AM (P6QsQ)
Bwahahahahaha! You're killing me, man.
Try looking at this from another perspective; let's pretend that instead of voting, you're cashing in on some of those sweet, sweet entitlement bennies. How hard is it again?
Posted by: Fritz at April 09, 2012 07:47 AM (/ZZCn)
Then purple people will be able to vote as any times as the want.
If we have descended to the point where we need physical marks on voting day to stop massive fraud then it would just be better to junk this whole scene and start over with a new nation that is built on the Rule Of Law and not the suicidal drive of affirmative action and affirmative empathy.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 09, 2012 07:47 AM (X3lox)
I also doubt there is a court in this country that would uphold a law requiring someone to pay for an id only to vote.
This is all bullshit.
Posted by: real joe at April 09, 2012 07:48 AM (KDLYC)
Posted by: supercore23 at April 09, 2012 11:46 AM (bwV72)
That's nice. Cocksucker.
Posted by: Rinda at April 09, 2012 07:48 AM (EL+OC)
Posted by: Daniel Jeyn at April 09, 2012 07:48 AM (jBA6+)
"What I want to know is this -- where are the videos of people being disenfranchised, turned away from a polling place?"
OOH! OOH! ME ME!!!
It was in the movie "Birth of a Nation"!
Ummm, it's kind of an old video...
Posted by: HH at April 09, 2012 07:49 AM (KB0hv)
Posted by: real joe at April 09, 2012 07:50 AM (KDLYC)
Posted by: Daniel Jeyn at April 09, 2012 07:51 AM (jBA6+)
As a Gen-Yer, I can't wait to cut off all the checks flowing from my pocket to old fucks that didn't plan for their retirement.
I have been saying since I was 18, which is longer ago than I care to admit, that the Boomers are in for a hell of a surprise when Gen X and Y have to start paying for their retirement. Gen X, in particular, has been told our entire adult lives that the Social Security/Medicare collapse is inevitable and then we've watched as Our Betters have done jack shit about it. Even the most hard core Lefty I know is adamant that she will not pay for the retirement the Boomers did not plan for. It is going to be outright generational warfare and it's going to be very very ugly.
You know who I feel sorry for? Those who did plan for their retirements and who are also going to be expected to bail out those who didn't. I see no way for there to be a happy ending.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 07:53 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Jean at April 09, 2012 07:54 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: Trayvon at April 09, 2012 07:54 AM (WUWb9)
Children and inner city minorities the left treats as children. I guess if someone is providing you housing, food, and an allowance you don't really need to enter into the adult world."
Not true. Every one of those people have ID cards to cash government checks without a bank account at supermarkets and check cashing places. They don't want to have a checking account because that might allow the government to realize gaming or abuse of benefits. The checks always get cashed PERIOD. The lefties always try to state that the people are too poor to maintain the minimum balance for a checking account. I call bullshit on that when often the people I see here in Boston somehow can make the minimum monthly payment on a new Escalade lease.
Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston would be forever alone without AoS at April 09, 2012 07:54 AM (KCvsd)
Requiring citizens to purchase expensive government-approved health insurance for the privilege of existing: not too burdensome and invasive. Posted by: Irony Meter
IMO Thread winner
Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 09, 2012 07:55 AM (RfvTE)
Posted by: Jean at April 09, 2012 07:56 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: Trayvon at April 09, 2012 07:57 AM (WUWb9)
Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 09, 2012 07:59 AM (RfvTE)
21 people shot in Chicago over the weekend.
It's called gangland blackjack. No, I will not denounce myself.
Posted by: Ammo Dump at April 09, 2012 08:00 AM (WUWb9)
Posted by: Jordan at April 09, 2012 08:02 AM (RSG1I)
Strict voter ID laws!
Drug testing for welfare recipients!
Wherever/whenever possible, welfare should be a work program.
Posted by: Havedash at April 09, 2012 08:03 AM (F0WNa)
That's how messed up Massachusetts is and now the Dems in the statehouse are in a tizzy about a Republican minority bill written to stop the cash withdrawals from EBT cards, the ban of EBT card use outside of the state and border states, and the banning of its use in places like bars/strip clubs/nail salons. But of course the bleeding hearts are crying "but there's nothing be anecdotal evidence" "show us real fraud" "this stigmatizes poor people" "how will they pay rent (even though the state is already paying Section 8 & the EBT program has an auto bill pay feature)". BOO FUCKING HOO! If taxpayers are paying for your goodies they damn well have a right to say how the money is spent.
Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston would be forever alone without AoS at April 09, 2012 08:05 AM (KCvsd)
Posted by: alphacharlie at April 09, 2012 08:10 AM (Ed7LL)
-The kind of post apocalyptic openness and lawlessness that exists in inncer city black neighborhoods is hard to describe if you have never seen it for yourself. Can you imagine many 2-3 yr old children wandering around streets aimlessly at 2am? Not one but many. A 40k$ SUV filled with 10-11 yr old black boys swerving up and down sidewalks? Gangs of 50+ going up and down streets? Those Children "Dropped" in the toilet may never get around to attending school or even get a SS# if their mother is on drugs.
-Also back with welfare checks you probably needed ID but EBT cards come in the mail with a pin number and you get cash or use them as a credit card. Remember, that's why were saying those "restrictions" on where and what it can be used for are meaningless.
I could go on, but needless to say I hope their ass-rape in hell and that LBJ and his democrats that formulated this dependency plan (those leftists like Jordan that excuse its effects while increasing the disease) I hope their assholes are fair game to any of these people I am discussing.
Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 09, 2012 08:10 AM (RfvTE)
Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at April 09, 2012 08:13 AM (DGIjM)
Posted by: megthered at April 09, 2012 08:20 AM (iR4Dg)
*Obviously white-ish hispanic appearance people just run red lights (if they even work) Don't slow down ever!
*"The Wire" captured the (relative to them) middle'ish and daytime areas. The writers obviously did not return at night. Keep in mind these areas a bike ride or 5$ in gas from multi-million dollar white neighborhoods... (when shtf you do not want to be there)
*If they were to put what I have seen with my own eyes into a post-apocalyptic movie, it would feel so over the top and outrageous people would call it racist and complain that it ruined reality of the movie. No exaggeration.
Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 09, 2012 08:28 AM (RfvTE)
Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 09, 2012 08:36 AM (RfvTE)
I think I have only seen once or twice someone using those scooters who actually had a cast on theirleg or a foot bandaged.
Fat people (not "large") wanting sympathy is a pet peeve of mine. I broke my leg a few years ago, but still parked in normal spaces and hobbled around with cast and crutches past fat fucks who parked in "handicapped" spaces before waddling in to their destination. I made a point of shooting them a nasty look that said "look, you're not handicapped, you're just a porker."
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 09, 2012 08:56 AM (jHzFg)
You know who I feel sorry for? Those who did plan for their retirementsand who are also going to be expected to bail out those who didn't.I see no way for there to be a happy ending.
Ahem.
Story of my life.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 09, 2012 08:58 AM (jHzFg)
*The Daley/democratic machine stays in power inspite of its awfulness, mainly on the premise that as democrats and strong enough they can keep the black inner city in line... or at least out of the white areas. Republicans cant do that. Those inner city blacks will never submit to Republicans only to democrats. The far left chicago media would also cover cases of white cops etc.. assaulting blacks riling them up even more. Where as for a democrat the media smothers the story. Thats why alot of Chicagoan keep voting Daley... to keep the lid on the kettle. (this is also how much of the shittier parts of the world works)
*When I used to say step out of Union station I would step over passed out drugged up homeless black people. Meanwhile rich white people in limos or 100k cars zoom past. The better intentioned (yet flawed thinker) lefties have this kind of situation in mind with a lot of their screeching. They dont udnerstand that policy doesn't change the dynamic and neither are either person Representative of all matters large and small.
*Back to the south side, the most disturbing thing of any of it.. is the way nobody there is disturbed by anything. Often not even glancing over to see, noises from things that traumatize any of us for life. Again this is the weekend night time crowd. Daytime crowd is more mixed. There are some young mothers, old people etc.. out walking around. still bad stuff.. but yea more like the wire showed it.
Hope that was an education somewhat. Hey and remember only good caring unracist people vote Democrat!
Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 09, 2012 09:10 AM (RfvTE)
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Posted by: torabora at April 09, 2012 04:49 PM (95soh)
I used to work near Union Station and had to catch a cab there many a night. Did you ever experience the bum valets trying to "earn" money by opening cab doors for you?
I wasn't a cab person back then, but yea I know what you are talking a bout. (I should also mention a fair number of those homeless were whites) Also, similair such things with window washing etc. to get a tip. Personally I find such things commendable.
Isn't Union station beautiful? Part of it felt like stepping into a more civilized past... like going to Wrigley. Back before people wore pants on the ground and dildos on their heads to parades. Like many such of mans creations.. too bad its filled with so much ugliness.
Nice talking with someone from the same stomping ground!
Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 10, 2012 06:11 AM (RfvTE)
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