May 19, 2012

A Once Proud Nation
— Dave in Texas

Celebrates the Queen's Diamond Jubilee.

60 Years I believe, is this anniversary.

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I wonder if this nation could take the Falklands back today?

There was a time when Britain had a pair. I hope they find them again.

via Kevlarchick

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There was a time when they stood up against all odds.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at 11:53 AM | Comments (179)
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1 They are now renting out parts of Buckingham Palace for private parties.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 19, 2012 12:08 PM (piMMO)

2 Political Correctness has destroyed their nation. 

Posted by: rd at May 19, 2012 12:08 PM (9sUlj)

3 That's so cuuuuutee. Look at all the baby planes following the mommy plane.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 19, 2012 12:09 PM (piMMO)

4 There's this one footballer for Chelsea with Sideshow Bob hair who keeps hugging the Bayern Muenchen players.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 19, 2012 12:10 PM (hO8IJ)

5 I keep thinking that something will push them too far and they'll begin the fight to take it all back, but thus far hope is fading.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 19, 2012 12:10 PM (piMMO)

6
I've always had a soft spot for England, maybe because I was an English lit fiend from the time I was about 13, then an English major. I always admired their intellectuals throughout history.

I really hope they get it back.

Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at May 19, 2012 12:11 PM (jTDjB)

7 Falklands? What are those?

Posted by: Baraka O - As American as any other Indonesian at May 19, 2012 12:11 PM (FcR7P)

8 There's this one footballer for Chelsea with Sideshow Bob hair who keeps hugging the Bayern Muenchen players.


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You should have seen the LA team at the WH last week. I swear I thought Obama was going to drop to his knees in front of Beckham.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 19, 2012 12:12 PM (piMMO)

9 2 Political Correctness has destroyed their nation.

 

Posted by: rd at May 19, 2012 04:08 PM (9sUlj)

 

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And PC's  twisted sister.....Multiculturalism.

 

When it becomes 'wrong' to have pride in your own native culture....you have allowed your country to be royally fucked. 

Posted by: wheatie at May 19, 2012 12:12 PM (dHMPi)

10 When it becomes 'wrong' to have pride in your own native culture....you have allowed your country to be royally fucked.


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Exceptionalism? What the hell is that?

No one country is more special than another.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 19, 2012 12:13 PM (piMMO)

11 I keep thinking that something will push them too far and they'll begin the fight to take it all back You know what they call those Brits who got pushed too far and did something about it? Americans. Canadians. And Australians.

Posted by: t-bird at May 19, 2012 12:13 PM (FcR7P)

12 Too Late. http://t.co/0UNaqfzi

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at May 19, 2012 12:14 PM (5H1lG)

13
By the way, did I ever tell you my favorite war memorial is Trafalgar Square? It's got a statue of George Washington.

Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at May 19, 2012 12:14 PM (jTDjB)

14 You know what they call those Brits who got pushed too far and did something about it? Americans. Canadians. And Australians.


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touche'

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 19, 2012 12:16 PM (piMMO)

15 I'll Have Another Triple Crown. Please.

Posted by: S Daniel at May 19, 2012 12:17 PM (BVkEs)

16

The only reason they can and will hold the Falklands (if Obama, EU and the UN do not screw them) will be that they have an AF on the island.  They do not have any aircraft carriers or long range bombers any more. 

 

The good news is Argentina's military has probably degraded too.

 

Hopefully we can rent them a Nimitz class carrier and an MEU or two with the helicopter decked ships (LHA?) for a month if Argentina ever tries something. 

 

Or their French EU buddies could send their Aircraft Carrier?

 

 

 

Posted by: rd at May 19, 2012 12:17 PM (9sUlj)

17 Too Late.

http://t.co/0UNaqfzi


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How the hell did parents over the millenna ever manage to raise a child without assistance from the government?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 19, 2012 12:18 PM (piMMO)

18 Viva Las Maldives!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 19, 2012 12:19 PM (MCDCp)

19 >>I swear I thought Obama was going to drop to his knees in front of Beckham.

Really?  Given that Beckham's British, you'd think SCOAMF would be expecting him to drop to his knees.

I heard Ear Leader  insulted Beckham's age and fertility.  The class, it exudes from his mole.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 19, 2012 12:20 PM (hO8IJ)

20 Good, Travon thread was getting old.

Posted by: Vic at May 19, 2012 12:20 PM (YdQQY)

21
Oh, and:

God Save the Queen.

Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at May 19, 2012 12:20 PM (jTDjB)

22 No one country is more special than another.

 

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 19, 2012 04:13 PM (piMMO)

 

Huhyeah. ....Then why do immigrants leave their beloved shit holes in the first place...and move to other countries?

 

When immigrants move into a another country...form colonies...and demand that their 'culture' be recognized as having the same rights as the existing culture of their new Host Country......then that is not immigration. ....That is an invasion. 

Posted by: wheatie at May 19, 2012 12:20 PM (dHMPi)

23 How the hell did parents over the millenna ever manage to raise a child without assistance from the government?

Obviously not well, since they kept producing conservatives.   These new initiatives should ensure that no longer happens.

Posted by: Alex at May 19, 2012 12:21 PM (EnhSM)

24 It just occurred to me that the Queen of England has more military experience than our own CIC.

Yes. That little old lady in the funny blue hat. Her heirs do as well.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 19, 2012 12:21 PM (piMMO)

25 Didn't Obama curtsy before the queen?

Posted by: Fritz at May 19, 2012 12:22 PM (/9E6Z)

26 Huhyeah. ....Then why do immigrants leave their beloved shit holes in the first place...and move to other countries?

When immigrants move into aanother country...form colonies...and demand that their 'culture' be recognized ashaving the same rights as the existing culture oftheir new Host Country......then that isnot immigration. ....That is an invasion.


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Did I really need to use the Obama/sarc tag?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 19, 2012 12:22 PM (piMMO)

27 Uhhhhhhh, Argentina andddddd..... England, ummmmmmmmm will have to work out this Maldive deal, uhhhhhhhhhhh, by themselves.

Posted by: Preznit Training Pants at May 19, 2012 12:23 PM (jucos)

28
Given that Beckham's British, you'd think SCOAMF would be expecting him to drop to his knees.
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Beckham comes from International Celebrity-land, where Obama dearly wishes to take up permanent residence.

Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at May 19, 2012 12:23 PM (jTDjB)

29 How the hell did parents over the millenna ever manage to raise a child without assistance from the government? They didn't. They raised adults. That article...can we stick a fork in England yet?

Posted by: t-bird at May 19, 2012 12:23 PM (FcR7P)

30 "I wonder if this nation could take the Falklands back today?" I don't think they even have any fighters in their Fleet Air Arm right now (Harriers all retired and F-35's not yet delivered).

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at May 19, 2012 12:25 PM (ua3kv)

31 Did I really need to use the Obama/sarc tag?

 

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 19, 2012 04:22 PM (piMMO)

 

Oh I know, NDH...I know you were being sarcastic. ....Didn't mean that to seem like I was venting at you. ....I was just venting at the insanity of it all.

Posted by: wheatie at May 19, 2012 12:26 PM (dHMPi)

32 I wonder if this nation could take the Falklands back today?

Sure they could, but only against Argentina.  Fighting on a curve, as it were.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2012 12:26 PM (X3lox)

33 I love the UK, especially London.  I hate to see the socialists take it to hell in a handbasket. 

Tony Blair was the genius behind the idea of free and easy Paki immigration.  Why?  Because it would create a permanent underclass that would keep his party in power. 

He didn't count on them not assimilating at all.

Filthy socialist lifer pigs.

Posted by: rdbrewer at May 19, 2012 12:26 PM (Iyg03)

34 Yes. That little old lady in the funny blue hat. Her heirs do as well.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 19, 2012 04:21 PM (piMMO)



That is actually a requirement for the royals.

Posted by: Vic at May 19, 2012 12:26 PM (YdQQY)

35 Speaking of child-rearing...

http://lat.ms/KKxED0

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 19, 2012 12:27 PM (piMMO)

36 They're trying to push through a rule that requires the entire internet to let them see all communication. 

Socialist government paranoids in action.

Posted by: rdbrewer at May 19, 2012 12:27 PM (Iyg03)

37

They're trying to push through a rule that requires the entire internet to let them see all communication.


Socialist government paranoids in action.


 

Posted by: rdbrewer at May 19, 2012 04:27 PM (Iyg03)

 

 

Isn't the NSA already doing that here?

Posted by: ErikW at May 19, 2012 12:28 PM (JzDs+)

38 Political Correctness has destroyed their nation.

Concepts don't destroy nations. People destroy nations.

Political-correctness was forced upon Britain from "the international community"; and that basically means Harvard, plus the Department of State and the New York media.

Consider Enoch Powell. He was a slightly-nuttier and slightly-more-Celtic (I may be repeating myself) version of John Derbyshire. From one poll I saw he also had the approval of 80% of the English. Suppose he had become Prime Minister with 80% of the Commons behind him. What would the Americans have done? Oh noez, the fascism! Oh noez, the unilateralism! It would be Suez all over again - or Rhodesia, or South Africa (to name two countries demonstrably screwed by the American Liberal). Embargoes, demonstrations, terrorist acts - anything, anything to stop that ever-descending Night of Fascism.

The political class of Britain did all it could to stop Enoch Powell from getting anywhere. They did that because they knew they had no choice. They did that because of America.

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at May 19, 2012 12:29 PM (QTHTd)

39 That is actually a requirement for the royals.


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Harry seems to really enjoy the life.

I loved the story about how, when he was out in the SW for training, he showed up at a Walmart and stocked up on pizza and beer for the fellas.

That must have been one helluva sight.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 19, 2012 12:29 PM (piMMO)

40 Sorry to go OT so early but has anyone ever rented from U-Haul or Budget or ??? 


Any opinions on who is the best/cheapest?  We need to move my daughter from NH to St. Louis. 

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2012 12:29 PM (X6akg)

41

You know what they call those Brits who got pushed too far and did something about it? Americans. Canadians. And Australians.

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Well said

Posted by: CanaDave at May 19, 2012 12:30 PM (BdTXW)

42 What would one expect from a nation that tosses out one of their only decent leaders right after he saves them from destruction and puts the retarded socialists in power?

It took us 50 years, but right after the fall of the USSR our nation hurried to catch up to the stupidity and suicidal tendencies of the Brits.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2012 12:30 PM (X3lox)

43 They're trying to push through a rule that requires the entire internet to let them see all communication. It wouldn't do them much good. "Situation normal, Your Lordship and Majesty, Obama. Everyone says you're awesome!"

Posted by: t-bird at May 19, 2012 12:30 PM (FcR7P)

44 Speaking of child-rearing...

He should get a break on child support only if he receives a vasectomy.  Actually, I'd support full castration in this case.

Posted by: Alex at May 19, 2012 12:30 PM (EnhSM)

45 This reminds me that I need to pick up a fifth of Beefeaters later.

Posted by: Fritz at May 19, 2012 12:32 PM (/9E6Z)

46 Any opinions on who is the best/cheapest? We need to move my daughter from NH to St. Louis.

Have you considered one of those PODs.  I've known a few guys who shipped their goods that way and they said it wasn't too expensive.  You fill it up, they ship it, and then drop it off in STL.  No fussing with Uhauls.

Posted by: Alex at May 19, 2012 12:32 PM (EnhSM)

47

And now.....British school teachers are not allowed to mark more that 3 misspelled words on their students papers....lest they might harm their student's 'positive self image'.

 

Gee, now let's see....what professions will be impacted by misspelled words, when these kids get out in the workforce? .....Let's hope that the highway department has some spell-checkers for their signs.

Posted by: wheatie at May 19, 2012 12:32 PM (dHMPi)

48 Sorry to go OT so early but has anyone ever rented from U-Haul or Budget or ???


Any opinions on who is the best/cheapest? We need to move my daughter from NH to St. Louis.

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I've rented from both and the prices were about the same. On a one-way one might need equipment somewhere and give you a break. On average, I would say the Budget trucks are in better condition and, something else that's handy, many of their trucks are equipped with lift-gates.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 19, 2012 12:32 PM (piMMO)

49 The Fabian Society destroyed the UK. Even with all the manpower loses and massive debt from two World Wars the UK could have had a postwar boom, like the US, selling industrial goods to the rest of the decimated world, but the Fabians managed to do what the Luftwaffe could not and destroyed British industries from within.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at May 19, 2012 12:32 PM (KCvsd)

50 I've used PODS before but only for a local move.  I'll check into it.  Thanks Alex!

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2012 12:33 PM (X6akg)

51 Sorry to go OT so early but has anyone ever rented from U-Haul or Budget or ???
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I have rented from U-haul.  No problems at all. The quality really depends on the local dealer though.

Posted by: Vic at May 19, 2012 12:33 PM (YdQQY)

52 I was bored so I had my Camry modified to raise, lower and tilt side to side as I drive down the street. Now my floor mats are filthy with coffee stains.

Posted by: #JusticeForFloorMats at May 19, 2012 12:34 PM (aPEuQ)

53 He should get a break on child support only if he receives a vasectomy. Actually, I'd support full castration in this case.


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The dude is working for minimum wage. They said that some of the mothers get less than $2 a month in support.

I'd support castration.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 19, 2012 12:34 PM (piMMO)

54 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 19, 2012 04:29 PM (piMMO)

Both brothers seem to enjoy their time in the service, and Harry has really embraced it.  He served in Afghanistan a couple of times, as I recall, and saw some action.  Had to be pulled out after the tabloids found out and published it. 

Posted by: Alex at May 19, 2012 12:34 PM (EnhSM)

55 Patriot Games is my favorite Clancy book.

Posted by: Vic at May 19, 2012 12:35 PM (YdQQY)

56 NDH, I checked both online and Budget seems to be almost $500 cheaper for the same size truck.  Their pickup location, however, is a little out of the way from where we need it.

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2012 12:36 PM (X6akg)

57 I've used PODS before but only for a local move. I'll check into it. Thanks Alex!

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I haven't used a POD for a move, but did have one dropped at my house for a while during some construction.

They are really convenient in that the clock isn't constantly ticking. You can take the time to load/block/brace as you see fit.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 19, 2012 12:36 PM (piMMO)

58
I was bored so I had my Camry modified to raise, lower and tilt side to side as I drive down the street. Now my floor mats are filthy with coffee stains. Posted by: #JusticeForFloorMats
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Well, presumably you haven't had your dick bitten off yet.

Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at May 19, 2012 12:36 PM (jTDjB)

59
What was Bl@2ers favorite movie?  It was about a British band that cursed a lot. Said f**k every second word.

He loved it. I hated it. Unfortunately, it seems an accurate portrayal of what has become of the former empire.

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at May 19, 2012 12:37 PM (7+pP9)

60 "24 It just occurred to me that the Queen of England has more military experience than our own CIC."

She knows how to drive like a boss, maintain trucks, and change tires bigger than Barry's head. Tough old biddy with a razor for a tongue. She's also the last surviving head of state to have been involved in World War II.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at May 19, 2012 12:37 PM (KCvsd)

61 What destroyed Britain was the long history of class stratification and the abuse of the lower classes. At the end of WWI they essentially rebelled at this treatment and the system swung hard in the other direction toward socialism. 

Posted by: Vic at May 19, 2012 12:38 PM (YdQQY)

62 She knows how to drive like a boss, maintain trucks, and change tires bigger than Barry's head. Tough old biddy with a razor for a tongue. She's also the last surviving head of state to have been involved in World War II.


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It's difficult to imagine that ass of a son trying to fill her shoes.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 19, 2012 12:40 PM (piMMO)

63 And PC's twisted sister.....Multiculturalism.

When it becomes 'wrong' to have pride in your own native culture....you have allowed your country to be royally fucked.


Reminds me that for the past couple of days i've been seeing all the stories about how we've finally reached our multicultural dream because whitey only accounted for 49% of the births last year. You may be thinking, gee, seems a little racist to cheer about the decline of a specific race and my response would be yeah, it does, welcome to America 2012.

Posted by: booger at May 19, 2012 12:40 PM (HI6wa)

64 Checked PODS....they don't have service at "one or more of the locations" I entered.

PODS might not have worked anyway....she's in an apartment and they're pissy about their parking lot.

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2012 12:40 PM (X6akg)

65
The dude is working for minimum wage. They said that some of the mothers get less than $2 a month in support.
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And they probably spend it on Starbucks.

Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at May 19, 2012 12:41 PM (jTDjB)

66

35, 44 Speaking of child-rearing...

Do not worry, the taxpayers are going to pick up the slack. 


The sad part is due to his and his 11 baby mama's lack of responsibility (ever heard of rubbers or the pill?), thes kids will grow up without a father.  How many will be dead or in jail by 30?

 

There will be no Nobel Prize nominees in his descendants. 

 

I am waiting for the liberal sensitive environmentalists to say something about his increasing the carbon footprint by his actions. 

Posted by: rd at May 19, 2012 12:41 PM (9sUlj)

67 #63, I think she is well aware Charles isn't King material and has been hanging on long enough to make sure one of the sons could be selected instead.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at May 19, 2012 12:41 PM (KCvsd)

68 Reminds me that for the past couple of days i've been seeing all the stories about how we've finally reached our multicultural dream because whitey only accounted for 49% of the births last year. You may be thinking, gee, seems a little racist to cheer about the decline of a specific race and my response would be yeah, it does, welcome to America 2012.

Posted by: booger at May 19, 2012 04:40 PM (HI6wa)



Lord, in the memory of all the saints who from their labors rest, and in the joy of a new beginning, we ask you to help us work for that day when white will embrace what is right  ... or just die off.

Posted by: Rev Joseph Lowery, Precedential Benediction Specialist at May 19, 2012 12:42 PM (X3lox)

69 I thought diamond was 75 years.

Posted by: Evil Blogger Lady at May 19, 2012 12:43 PM (XkmMw)

70 PC bureaucrats presiding over a yob culture.  Yuk.

Once, they had the stuff to repel the Nazi air attacks.  Today, they couldn't even shut down a goddamned parade.

Posted by: TheLittlShiningMan at May 19, 2012 12:43 PM (PH+2B)

71 Socialism and idiotic immigration policy have pretty much killed any chance of Great Britain become "Great" again. At best your looking a mediocre Britain, at worst your looking at it turning into the same kind of 3rd world hell hole that most of the "immigrants" came from in the first place.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at May 19, 2012 12:44 PM (R5yLq)

72 The First thing that Charles would do as King would be to turn Buckingham Palace into the 9th holiest place in Islam and turn Canterbury into a mosk.

Posted by: Preznit Training Pants at May 19, 2012 12:44 PM (jucos)

73 Currently Charles is the next in line for succession followed by William.

Posted by: Vic at May 19, 2012 12:44 PM (YdQQY)

74 I thought diamond was 75 years.


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I think that's for weddings. It might be a long, long time before anyone rules for 75 years.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 19, 2012 12:44 PM (piMMO)

75 Socialism, we shall see the end of France now and the beginning of a transformation of Europe that any WWII soldier who died in Normandy could have ever imagined. And so it goes in GB .Now, this infection is at the very core of our political system.

Posted by: clemenza at May 19, 2012 12:46 PM (Epz9+)

76 #64, Don't worry the MFM will decide that Latinos aren't in fact a different "race" and just another variant of evil white Europeans to be degraded. If Latinos don't vote for Obama and decide to not be the new 'blacks', expect the MFM to immediately start (properly) referring to anyone of Spanish or Portuguese descent as European.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at May 19, 2012 12:46 PM (KCvsd)

77 I think that's for weddings. It might be a long, long time before anyone rules for 75 years. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 19, 2012 04:44 PM (piMMO) ------------------------------------------------------- I'll be back soon.

Posted by: Jesus at May 19, 2012 12:47 PM (jucos)

78 What destroyed Britain was the long history of class stratification and the abuse of the lower classes. At the end of WWI they essentially rebelled at this treatment and the system swung hard in the other direction toward socialism.

Don't ignore the effects of the loss of most of the testosterone in both the Aristocracy and the Commons in the blood bath of World War I.  What little was left was spilled in WWII.  All that were left were the metrosexuals (what used to be called 4F).

The USA lost a far smaller percentage of our best and bravest in these conflicts, which is one reason the road back to serfdom has taken us longer.  But here we find ourselves.

Posted by: aurelius at May 19, 2012 12:47 PM (A/dpx)

79 However, if it does come out that he has converted from Anglican to Islam he will be removed from the list. The line of succession automatically excludes anyone not in the Church of England.

Posted by: Vic at May 19, 2012 12:47 PM (YdQQY)

80 The First thing that Charles would do as King would be to turn Buckingham Palace into the 9th holiest place in Islam and turn Canterbury into a mosk.

Posted by: Preznit Training Pants at May 19, 2012 04:44 PM (jucos)



That's a smear.  The first thing I would do is have windmills installed in all the hallways and bathrooms.  I can feel the breezes blowing through that are totally wasted.  It's free energy.  I would save the Earth.

Then I would do what you say, but only because it's the fair thing to do.  The Archbishop of Canterbury is already a muslim so what's the big deal?

Posted by: King Charles In Charge at May 19, 2012 12:47 PM (X3lox)

81 @77 in Bean Town the lights are on...Nice tread

Posted by: clemenza at May 19, 2012 12:48 PM (Epz9+)

82 It just occurred to me that the Queen of England has more military experience than our own CIC. Yes. That little old lady in the funny blue hat. Her heirs do as well. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 19, 2012 04:21 PM (piMMO) Can you imagine the SCOAMF allowing himself to be photographed like this? http://tinyurl.com/cf7xpn4 There's also another photo I've seen of her in her youth, when she used to target shoot with a Lee Enfield. Can't seem to find it on the 'tubes anymore.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 19, 2012 12:48 PM (Rhie+)

83 It's difficult to imagine that ass of a son trying to fill her shoes.

 

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 19, 2012 04:40 PM (piMMO)

 

Even she apparently thinks Charles is a hopeless twit. ....Otherwise, she would have stepped down by now.

 

Can the succession to the crown skip a generation and go straight to the grandson? 

Posted by: wheatie at May 19, 2012 12:48 PM (dHMPi)

84
Can the succession to the crown skip a generation and go straight to thegrandson?
Posted by: wheatie
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Rumor has it the Queen is trying to engineer just that. I think there's some process for it.

Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at May 19, 2012 12:50 PM (jTDjB)

85

Take a close look at Britain. 

 

It is the US in ten years unless we turn these trends around.  A lot of Europe is the same, but we do not speak the languages, so we do not see their stories. 

See post #35 for an example.

 

 

Posted by: rd at May 19, 2012 12:50 PM (9sUlj)

86 Prince William is the Antichrist. Google it.

Posted by: Preezy of the United Steezy at May 19, 2012 12:50 PM (BVkEs)

87 Never made it to England, but I've been to Dublin. They're soft. Saw a vid on Tosh.0: bunch of pudgy drunks, trying to break dance, jerking each other off. Yeah, that's a fair representation.

Posted by: Beefy Meatball at May 19, 2012 12:50 PM (mxnUd)

88 Bush's lies destroyed Great Britain. If I were President this would have not happened !!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Barack Obama at May 19, 2012 12:51 PM (YVbwx)

89 Can the succession to the crown skip a generation and go straight to thegrandson?

Posted by: wheatie at May 19, 2012 04:48 PM (dHMPi)



It goes to the eldest qualified male child in the line unless there are no male children, then it goes to the eldest female.


The heir must have a direct blood link to Sophia of Hanover.  Succession is controlled by the Act of Settlement in 1701 and it amendments.

Posted by: Vic at May 19, 2012 12:52 PM (YdQQY)

90 Prince William is the Antichrist. Google it. Posted by: Preezy of the United Steezy at May 19, 2012 04:50 PM (BVkEs) --------------------------------------------------------- You'd think that the anti-Christ would have better hair.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at May 19, 2012 12:52 PM (jucos)

91 Can the succession to the crown skip a generation and go straight to thegrandson? Not like it matters, the only thing the Royalty does in England is to keep the commoners distracted while the real government screws stuff up even worse on a daily basis. They call it a "constitutional monarchy".. lol

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at May 19, 2012 12:52 PM (R5yLq)

92

I think that's for weddings. It might be a long, long time before anyone rules for 75 years.


 

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 19, 2012 04:44 PM (piMMO)

 

 

Now that I think about it, I recall the Boy Scouts of America celebrating its 75th Anniversary Diamond Jubilee (or some such) in the early 80's when I was but a wee Cub Scout.

 

There could be a difference in protocol.

Posted by: ErikW at May 19, 2012 12:52 PM (JzDs+)

93 Little Winger served alongside some British soldiers during his second tour of Iraq.  He said they were very good, and he liked them a lot.

Posted by: mama winger at May 19, 2012 12:54 PM (P6QsQ)

94 Maybe she'll order Charles' beheading. Can she do that? Think of the ticket sales. Posted by: USS Diversity at May 19, 2012 04:53 PM (cjTjM) ----------------------------------------------------- Like she did to Diana..... although she didn't sell tickets.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at May 19, 2012 12:54 PM (jucos)

95

Maybe she'll order Charles' beheading. Can she do that? Think of the ticket sales.

 

Posted by: USS Diversity at May 19, 2012 04:53 PM (cjTjM)

 

 

I'm good for $50 on that.

Posted by: ErikW at May 19, 2012 12:54 PM (JzDs+)

96 I'll be back soon.

Posted by: Jesus at May 19, 2012 04:47 PM (jucos)


Faster, please.

Posted by: Joe Mama at May 19, 2012 12:55 PM (9s74/)

97 The muzzies, and the fact that they have been catered to in the name of "fairness" and pc, have destroyed Great Britain.

Posted by: Peaches at May 19, 2012 12:55 PM (kpCLl)

98
Can the succession to the crown skip a generation and go straight to thegrandson?

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Not like it matters
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Well, it matters a little bit, cuz the royal family pulls a lot of tourist dollars. They have to keep their mystique and pomp and aura of speshulness, so who's at the head makes a difference.

Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at May 19, 2012 12:55 PM (jTDjB)

99 It goes to the eldest qualified male child in the line unless there are no male children, then it goes to the eldest female. The heir must have a direct blood link to Sophia of Hanover. Succession is controlled by the Act of Settlement in 1701 and it amendments. Posted by: Vic at May 19, 2012 04:52 PM (YdQQY) So you're saying that Harry's out..... That is, if the rumors about his being the product of Di's infidelities are to be believed. After all, he looks NOTHING like Prince Chuck, and a lot like that ginger Army officer she was boinking at one time. Too bad, I like Harry the best out of the possible candidates.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 19, 2012 12:56 PM (Rhie+)

100
Little Winger served alongside some British soldiers during his second tour of Iraq. He said they were very good, and he liked them a lot.
Posted by: mama winger
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My sister lived in London for a while and she went up to one of their guys in uniform in a subway station and thanked him for his service. He just about fell over. No one in England ever does that.

Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at May 19, 2012 12:57 PM (jTDjB)

101 Well, it matters a little bit, cuz the royal family pulls a lot of tourist dollars. They have to keep their mystique and pomp and aura of speshulness, so who's at the head makes a difference. Lol... well guess I'm just not that sophisticated. To me it looks like a choice between Prissy Jackass, Sr. and Prissy Jackass, Jr.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at May 19, 2012 12:57 PM (R5yLq)

102 It's difficult to imagine that ass of a son trying to fill her shoes.

He won't.  I suspect that if he were to assume the throne, she has orders to several loyal supporters that he's to meet with an 'accident'.  It sucks, but that man would destroy Great Britain if he assumed the throne.

Posted by: Alex at May 19, 2012 12:58 PM (EnhSM)

103 How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.

Posted by: Winston Churchill at May 19, 2012 12:58 PM (jucos)

104

One of the things that is contradictory about the lib-socialists....is that they trumpet the virtues of 'population control' on the one hand...then, are in favor of 'open borders' and increasing immigrant numbers on the other hand.

 

This is what has happened in Britain. ....The native Brits were sold the propaganda that they shouldn't have big families. ...But then, the social entitlement programs needed the funding from more tax payers....so, oops....we need to get some immigrants in here, quick!

 

Same bullshit is going on here, in our own country. ....The dirtly little secret behind 'why' so many politicians on both sides are squeamish about cracking down on our immigration problems....is because they think we need all those additional numbers to fund our ever-growing entitlement programs.

Posted by: wheatie at May 19, 2012 12:58 PM (dHMPi)

105
They call it a "constitutional monarchy".. lol

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at May 19, 2012 04:52 PM (R5yLq)



Heh.  Yeah, I love it.  They don't have a Constitution and they don't really have a monarchy.

This is what you get when governmental structures are built by the legislature slowly stealing and concentrating power. 

The dems would love to do that here.  We have a good start; Barky the Dog-Eater's first political ambition was to be the Prime Minister of Indonesia and he's really acting more like a real monarch.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2012 01:00 PM (X3lox)

106 So you're saying that Harry's out.....


Actually he is 3rd in line. Assuming nobody proves he is not in the line  by DNA test.

Posted by: Vic at May 19, 2012 01:00 PM (YdQQY)

107 My sister lived in London for a while and she went up to one of their guys in uniform in a subway station and thanked him for his service. He just about fell over. No one in England ever does that.

Yeah, I knew a couple of guys in the British Army, and they were always amazed when they came over to the States at how friendly people were to them.  They don't get the same respect over there.

Posted by: Alex at May 19, 2012 01:00 PM (EnhSM)

108 My sister lived in London for a while and she went up to one of their guys in uniform in a subway station and thanked him for his service. He just about fell over. No one in England ever does that.

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I've heard the same thing from some British friends of mine.  They said that's one of the things they admire most about Americans - that we appreciate our soldiers.

Posted by: mama winger at May 19, 2012 01:00 PM (P6QsQ)

109 The Duke of Cornwall is another AGW loony with a penchant for trannies.  He's perfectly qualified to be king.

Posted by: Fritz at May 19, 2012 01:00 PM (/9E6Z)

110 Just wait till they get their first Muslim Prime Minister. Luckily we've shown the way with Obama, the first gay Muslim President.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 19, 2012 01:01 PM (ZPrif)

111 Maybe she'll order Charles' beheading. Can she do that?

Don't know, but she can dissolve the Canadian government.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2012 01:01 PM (X3lox)

112 The dems would love to do that here. We have a good start; Barky the Dog-Eater's first political ambition was to be the Prime Minister of Indonesia and he's really acting more like a real monarch.

They've tried that Prime Minister shit here a couple of times IIRC.  Most recently was when the SCoaMF first entered the office. 

Posted by: Alex at May 19, 2012 01:02 PM (EnhSM)

113 the first gay Muslim President.

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There is no homosexuality in islam.  Everyone knows this.

Posted by: mama winger at May 19, 2012 01:02 PM (P6QsQ)

114 Maybe she'll order Charles' beheading. Can she do that? 
Posted by: USS Diversity
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lol, but evidence suggests it's already happened.

Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at May 19, 2012 01:02 PM (jTDjB)

115 Political-correctness was forced upon Britain from "the international community"; and that basically means Harvard, plus the Department of State and the New York media.
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PC Harvard, NYC, Dept./State, yes3. But you've overlooked Oxford, Cambridge, British upper crust exclusives, exporting the various (ur-European) Socialist forms into the US, firmly established by Wilson who tossed out the Constitution as outmoded and irrelevant. The FDR rhetoric, "Are you part of the problem or the solution?" made it completely incorrect to not fall in line with his political program, to jump on his bandwagon. He threw those who chose to legally contest his unconstitutional methods into jail. It could easily be argued that Harvard and Princeton mimic Oxford, where they learned the tricks of the empire trade. The "international community" is sourced as much from the City of London as anywhere else, Paris, Berlin, Rome, NYC, then Riyadh, Tokyo and presently Hong Kong, with Mumbai coming up in the world. And don't expect Asian cultures to remain mimics of Hollywood/NYC popular culture as everyone's economies ruin. There will be too much antagonism and blame heaped upon Wall Street. But it will be, as ever, the (US) tax payers who are burdened with the "responsibility" to AGAIN pay the global pirates for their epic thievery, allowing them to "recover" what THEY never lost but already stole.

Political correctness is white-washing dog eat dog, pretending not to notice corruption. Worse, because you're too cowardly/"smart" to face down the guy above you pulling your strings, PC denies reality by blaming the guy with less pull than you have for your own discomforts, or kicking him in the teeth for not appreciating what you've done with the best of intentions, namely: over spend to keep up appearances.

Posted by: panzernashorn at May 19, 2012 01:02 PM (lpWVn)

116

 

But....Charles is divorced, and remarried to a divorced woman now. ....Wasn't that the reason why the Queen's own uncle had to abdicate the throne? ...Because he wanted to marry a divorced woman?

Posted by: wheatie at May 19, 2012 01:02 PM (dHMPi)

117 British Royal Marines take no shit from nobody. In Desert Storm we had to turn the base dry because when the marines were in the fights were crazy. They would fight with broken beer bottles. The brits are still there, they are hiding under a layer of PC and bullshit, but they are still there.

Posted by: thunderb at May 19, 2012 01:04 PM (Dnbau)

118 But....Charles is divorced, and remarried to a divorced woman now. ....Wasn't that the reason why the Queen's own uncle had to abdicate the throne? ...Because he wanted to marry a divorced woman?

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I think if he sends Camilla to the Tower and has her poisoned, he's off the hook.

Posted by: mama winger at May 19, 2012 01:04 PM (P6QsQ)

119 They've tried that Prime Minister shit here a couple of times IIRC. Most recently was when the SCoaMF first entered the office.

Posted by: Alex at May 19, 2012 05:02 PM (EnhSM)



The idiot dems held two no-confidence votes on Bush in 2007 - LOL - which have no meaning or purpose in our system, whatsoever.  But it's not as if the dems know or like anything about the American Constitution.  They just want to be euroscum ... or go straight to Third World status.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2012 01:05 PM (X3lox)

120
The dirtly little secret behind 'why' so many politicians on both sides are squeamish about cracking down on our immigration problems....is because they think we need all those additional numbers to fund our ever-growing entitlement programs.
Posted by: wheatie
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In the case of the Dems, it's to add clients to our ever-growing entitlement programs, not contributors.

Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at May 19, 2012 01:05 PM (jTDjB)

121 I think if he sends Camilla to the Tower and has her poisoned, he's off the hook. Posted by: mama winger at May 19, 2012 05:04 PM (P6QsQ) ------------------------------------------------------- Isn't Camilla his horse?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at May 19, 2012 01:05 PM (jucos)

122 Best things British: Monty Python (been milking that a while) Doctor Who (been milking that even longer) Keeley Hazell (makes me thirsty for milk)

Posted by: Beefy Meatball at May 19, 2012 01:06 PM (mxnUd)

123 Isn't Camilla his horse?

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It's very hard to tell.

Posted by: mama winger at May 19, 2012 01:07 PM (P6QsQ)

124 Posted by: Winston Churchill at May 19, 2012 04:58 PM (jucos)
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To this day, I can't watch footage of his funeral procession without tearing up. 

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 19, 2012 01:07 PM (9lQzN)

125 A once proud people, now cowed by socialism, dutifully submissive to their new royalty, the bureaucratic class. Weakened by the dole, silenced by political correctness, and looking constantly to the guidance of government for every opinion.

Posted by: nickless at May 19, 2012 01:07 PM (MMC8r)

126 A once proud people, now cowed by socialism, dutifully submissive to their new royalty, the bureaucratic class. Weakened by the dole, silenced by political correctness, and looking constantly to the guidance of government for every opinion.

Posted by: nickless at May 19, 2012 05:07 PM (MMC8r)



They are subjects, after all.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2012 01:09 PM (X3lox)

127 I saw the funeral on youtube for the first time a couple weeks ago.  The impromptu bowing of the construction cranes was touching.

Posted by: LIGuy at May 19, 2012 01:09 PM (+usC4)

128 To this day, I can't watch footage of his funeral procession without tearing up. Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 19, 2012 05:07 PM (9lQzN) ------------------------------------------------------ This. The procession down the Thames is haunting. We need a Churchill again.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at May 19, 2012 01:09 PM (jucos)

129 I like Nigel LaFarge aka Cajones LaFarge. 

Posted by: Joanne at May 19, 2012 01:09 PM (GCsZz)

130

I like Nigel LaFarge akaCajones LaFarge.

 

Ooops, Nigel Lafarage.

Posted by: Joanne at May 19, 2012 01:11 PM (GCsZz)

131 Off-topic, but seeing the footage of the JEF at Camp David, seeing him doing his savior-of-the-world act at the G(8-1) affair, makes me think he is where he hoped he would land, when he was doing his Born-In-Kenya thing and dreaming of the future.

He can solve it, because he is teh awesome!

Posted by: TheLittlShiningMan at May 19, 2012 01:14 PM (PH+2B)

132
British Royal Marines take no shit from nobody. In Desert Storm we had to turn the base dry because when the marines were in the fights were crazy. They would fight with broken beer bottles.

The brits are still there, they are hiding under a layer of PC and bullshit, but they are still there.
Posted by: thunderb
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Officer Smiley visits the Reno Sheriff's department:
 http://tinyurl.com/6nehrvx

Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at May 19, 2012 01:14 PM (jTDjB)

133 I'll be back soon.

Posted by: Jesus at May 19, 2012 04:47 PM (jucos)


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Really LOL'd!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 19, 2012 01:16 PM (piMMO)

134 Queen's Speech pledges continued reform of royal succession

"Royal succession laws 'fit for the 21st century' have been confirmed by the Queen at the opening of parliament.

The system of male preference primogeniture will end, meaning sons of monarchs will no longer displace an older sister in the line of succession."

http://tinyurl.com/6rwkrpd


Posted by: Miss80sBaby at May 19, 2012 01:16 PM (d6QMz)

135 The dems would love to do that here. We have a good start; Barky the Dog-Eater's first political ambition was to be the Prime Minister of Indonesia and he's really acting more like a real monarch. Yup.. if Milk Bone In Chief gets another term, stick a fork in us. We're done. He's already circumventing congress and punishing political opposition with an out of control Executive Branch. If these freaks get another term in office we will be so far down the path of European socialism by the time they are done it won't matter who gets elected after that.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at May 19, 2012 01:16 PM (R5yLq)

136 Just wait till they get their first Muslim Prime Minister.
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5th requirement of the Act of Settlement:

No foreigner, even if naturalised (unless they were born of English parents), shall be allowed to be a Privy Councillor or a member of either House of Parliament, or hold "any office or place of trust, either civil or military, or to have any grant of lands, tenements or hereditaments from the Crown, to himself or to any other or others in trust for him." As a result of subsequent nationality laws, this provision does not apply to naturalised citizens in any Commonwealth Realm.

Posted by: Vic at May 19, 2012 01:16 PM (YdQQY)

137
Can you imagine the SCOAMF allowing himself to be photographed like this?

http://tinyurl.com/cf7xpn4


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WOW!

The soldier next to her looks like he's gonna cry just watching her.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 19, 2012 01:17 PM (piMMO)

138 "It's difficult to imagine that ass"

Got that far and assumed you would be talking about Kate Middleton, imagine my disappointment.

Posted by: lowandslow at May 19, 2012 01:18 PM (GZitp)

139 Can you imagine the SCOAMF allowing himself to be photographed like this?



http://tinyurl.com/cf7xpn4

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She looks like she knows what she's doing there, and she likes it.

Posted by: mama winger at May 19, 2012 01:20 PM (P6QsQ)

140 Elizabeth II is the original Iron Lady. Charles will never be king because he divorced. It will be William. Elizabeth was 19 when she was crowned.

Posted by: kevlarchick at May 19, 2012 01:20 PM (J1U5w)

141

Nigel Lafarage and the UKIP have been mocking the EU in the EU parliament.  Too bad it is a toothless organization and all the real decisions are made by the nameless faceless bureaucrats in the EU. 

 

It sort of reminds me if the Supreme Soviet of the USSR, except the head of the EU is a feckless useless idiot with few powers.  But do not worry, eventually they will find one that will make Vladimir Ilyich Stalin look like a piker.  And he or she will be smart enough to grab all the power whether he is "allowed" to or not.  And the toothless EU bureaucrats will all fall in line or fall down at the wall after they have been shot. 

 

And the fascism that is always about to fall on the US will fall on Europe.  And the peasants will celebrate. 

Posted by: rd at May 19, 2012 01:22 PM (9sUlj)

142 @ 138    


       Don't think he WILL get another term.  Him and most of his cohorts are leaving this November, unless I'm totally mistaken.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 19, 2012 01:23 PM (SAMxH)

143 After all, he looks NOTHING like Prince Chuck, and a lot like that ginger Army officer she was boinking at one time.


*****

 I have had a crush on him for way too long considering how young he is.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 19, 2012 01:25 PM (piMMO)

144 I have had a crush on him for way too long considering how young he is.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 19, 2012 05:25 PM (piMMO)

Diddo, Niedermeyer.  He is one smokin' hottie.

Posted by: Peaches at May 19, 2012 01:29 PM (kpCLl)

145 Same bullshit is going on here, in our own country. ....The dirtly little secret behind 'why' so many politicians on both sides are squeamish about cracking down on our immigration problems....is because they think we need all those additional numbers to fund our ever-growing entitlement programs. Posted by: wheatie at May 19, 2012 04:58 PM (dHMPi) Actually, it's more craven and cocksuckery than that. Both parties are interested in increasing their voter rolls. Dems by handing out "free" money, 'Pubs because they actually think that because the new immigrants are largely Catholic, that they are naturally conservative-leaning. It's as if the GOP has never heard of Liberation Theology and it's almost total victory in Central and South America. Stupid Party indeed.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 19, 2012 01:29 PM (Rhie+)

146 OT: A group of 2500 military chaplains spoke out against Stretch Pelosi and the failure to protect the "conscience" of chaplains that will not perform ghey marriage ceremonies.

http://scoamf.us/Ghey-mar2

They're really getting aggressive in their efforts to demoralize the military. I wonder if crying Boner will just go along with the Donks on this one.

Posted by: Toaster at May 19, 2012 01:29 PM (sJKFk)

147
Sorry to go OT so early but has anyone ever rented from U-Haul or Budget or ???
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I have rented from U-haul. No problems at all. The quality really depends on the local dealer though.

Posted by: Vic at May 19, 2012 04:33 PM (YdQQY)


The quality really depends on the local dealer, the end dealer and the asshole who gets money as a drop off point but is never there. I once told such a drop off point owner over the phone I was going to drop off the trailer and slip the receipt under the door. He screamed, bitched and berated me that if I did that I would have to pay the daily rate until he found another renter. I dropped it off when he wasn't there and that was the end of it.

Another time I rented a moving truck and blew out a tire in a huge washed out pot hole. Walked a quarter mile in a deluge at 9:00 O'clock at night to a pay phone and called for help. Turned out that they wouldn't send out help without a confirmation from a call back (they didn't tell me about it!) On top of that, the diner with the outside pay phone had it set up so that all incoming calls to the pay phone went to the diner, not the pay phone. Since I wasn't in their diner they blew U-Haul calls off. After several walks in the rain and teasing the facts out of the 'tards involved I finally got a truck dispatched to fix my flat.

The guy who finally showed up was drunk and didn't have the proper sized lug wrench. Or a tire on a wheel. He laid his head on his steering's wheel as he sobbed, realizing he was losing his job, and radioed back for another truck.

An hour later the next tow truck came. This time the guy was sober but he insisted I crawled into the huge puddle under the truck to attach the chains to lift the front end. I told him that was his job, so he just put the hook on the front bumper and hauled up the front corner of the truck. As he did the bumper bent and groaned while strands of the wire rope snapped with eerie noises. Watch your eyes!

So it took U-Haul only about five or six hours to fix a flat on a major highway about an hour away from where I rented it.

Fark has an annual thread about U-Haul horrors. Many are worse than mine.

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at May 19, 2012 01:30 PM (7+pP9)

148

I, too, am wild about Harry--and a little guilty, considering how young he is.

 

William will be a good king, I believe.

Posted by: Palandine at May 19, 2012 01:30 PM (g7D8V)

149 Don't know, but she can dissolve the Canadian government.Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair

Wow. How do they do that? With acid?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at May 19, 2012 01:30 PM (ebPtk)

150 Worked with a lot of allies in 05. Brits (some may have been undercover Israelis I think), Spaniards, Hondurans, ROK's, Ukrainians, Skandis, Canadians, all good guys. What did they all have in common? Non-muslim. Sucks, don't it?

Posted by: EROWMER at May 19, 2012 01:32 PM (sIm3i)

151 Don't know, but she can dissolve the Canadian government.Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair Wow. How do they do that? With acid? Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 19, 2012 05:30 PM (ebPtk) And when she's done, can she do us a solid with Congress????

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 19, 2012 01:33 PM (Rhie+)

152 Edward VIII was forced to abdicate not because Wallace Simpson was divorced, but because she was divorced and her husband was still alive.  A member of the Church of England can not remarry if divorced and ex-husband is still alive



However the main reason was that everyone in authority hated her.

Posted by: Vic at May 19, 2012 01:33 PM (YdQQY)

153 143 Elizabeth II is the original Iron Lady.

  Charles will never be king because he divorced. It will be William. Elizabeth was 19 when she was crowned.

 

Posted by: kevlarchick at May 19, 2012 05:20 PM (J1U5w)

 

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Thanks. ....I was wondering if something had been changed with that 'divorced' thing. ....It wasn't that long ago that Elizabeth's uncle abdicated because of that.

 

If it hadn't been for the thing about 'divorce'....Elizabeth would have never been Queen. ....But then, if Charles is knocked out of the line for that....the succession falls to Elizabeth's younger sister, doesn't it? 

Posted by: wheatie at May 19, 2012 01:41 PM (dHMPi)

154 Thanks. ....I was wondering if something had been changed with that 'divorced' thing. ....It wasn't that long ago that Elizabeth's uncle abdicated because of that.


As I said, it wasn't just that she was divorced. She was divorced with her husband still alive.  Charles's ex-wife is not still alive, therefore it is not an issue.

That kind makes Diana's death kinda convenient don't it.

But don't take my word for it.  Check the Monarchy's own website.

http://is.gd/wTUK1v

Posted by: Vic at May 19, 2012 01:54 PM (YdQQY)

155 divorced and ex-husband is still alive

That that easily rectified problem wasn't ummm...."addressed" speaks volumes. 

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at May 19, 2012 02:00 PM (AWrMW)

156

Thanks, Vic. ....But is Camilla's ex-husband still alive?

 

Edward VIII wasn't divorced at all, right? Unlike Charles, he hadn't ever even been married. ....But he abdicated because of  Wallace Simpson's ex-husband still being alive.

Posted by: wheatie at May 19, 2012 02:04 PM (dHMPi)

157 159 But he abdicated because of Wallace Simpson's ex-husband still being alive. Which one?

Posted by: Fox2! at May 19, 2012 02:10 PM (RJOgX)

158 There were, I believe, several.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 19, 2012 02:10 PM (RJOgX)

159 But he abdicated because of Wallace Simpson's ex-husband still being alive.

Posted by: wheatie at May 19, 2012 06:04 PM (dHMPi)


That was the "stated" reason given, but like I said, all the British authorities hated her and considered her a gold digger.


Somehow or another they got "permission" from the church, parliament, and the queen which made it "ok".  But a lot of people have openly stated that the marriage IS illegal but the royals have dismissed these claims as the law is "obsolete". 


Technically there is nothing in the Act of Settlement that prohibits marrying a divorced person, however there is a problem with the Church of England which the King or Queen is the titular head of.


They gave "permission" for the wedding but the wedding was not held in a church.

Posted by: Vic at May 19, 2012 02:15 PM (YdQQY)

160 They gave "permission" for the wedding but the wedding was not held in a church.

 

Posted by: Vic at May 19, 2012 06:15 PM (YdQQY)

 

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And neither were Charles and Camilla. ....They had a civil service and then later received a 'blessing' at St. Georges Chapel.

 

I didn't know much at all about this, but have been doing a little reading up on it. .....There is a ton of stuff out there, on this subject. ....It seems like the British people are none too keen on having Charles ever take the throne.

 

As King, he would be the 'head of the Church of England". ....And that wouldn't go down too well for a lot of folks, to have an adulterer and someone who isn't 'officially' married in the church.....be the head of their church.

 

But it seems like the rules of succession get changed around to suit the circumstances. ....So it will be interesting to see how this plays out.

Posted by: wheatie at May 19, 2012 02:36 PM (dHMPi)

161 155 Edward VIII was forced to abdicate not because Wallace Simpson was divorced, but because she was divorced and her husband was still alive. A member of the Church of England can not remarry if divorced and ex-husband is still alive



However the main reason was that everyone in authority hated her.



Some in authority disliked her while others did not. Of those who disliked her, some did so for more personal reasons while others felt that it was a matter of devotion to constitutional principles, duty, honor, and the like. Ultimately, Edward VIII proved himself to be unserious with regards to the aforementioned and he made the choice to abdicate, which was best for all involved. 

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at May 19, 2012 02:39 PM (d6QMz)

162 Well, it looks like there might still be a little fight left in the Brits: 

http://tgr.ph/JXh1ST


Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 19, 2012 02:49 PM (piMMO)

163 And neither were Charles and Camilla. ...



That's who I was talking bout.

Posted by: Vic at May 19, 2012 02:50 PM (YdQQY)

164 Rumor has it the Queen is trying to engineer just that. I think there's some process for it.
Yes, yes, there is.

Posted by: zombie edward viii at May 19, 2012 02:52 PM (FTuxU)

165

109 ---- It's been awhile since they were: Kipling noted it well.

   "It's Tommy this and Tommy that and chuck 'im out, the brute .... "

Posted by: Old Bob at May 19, 2012 03:01 PM (0+Nue)

166 Elizabeth was 19 when she was crowned.
And the Korean War was on. I haven't looked online but I've seen a photo of Canadian troops taking the Oath to the new monarch at the front.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 19, 2012 03:03 PM (FTuxU)

167 Wow. How do they do that? With acid?
I wish.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 19, 2012 03:04 PM (FTuxU)

168 Did a geneology search years ago..seems that my dads side of the family came from London, England. Hit America around1790 if my memory serves me right.

Posted by: Bosk at May 19, 2012 03:13 PM (RRoh3)

169 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at May 19, 2012 03:21 PM (7W3wI)

170

That too.

 

Posted by: Bosk at May 19, 2012 03:23 PM (RRoh3)

171 Current order of succession (male-preference primogeniture):
http://bit.ly/tIso6
(1) Charles, Prince of Wales
(2) William, Duke of Cambridge
(3) Prince Henry of Wales
(4) Prince Andrew, Duke of York
(etc.)

Revised order following implementation of equal primogeniture:
(1) Charles, Prince of Wales
(2) Prince William, Duke of Cambridge
(3) Prince Henry of Wales
(4) Anne, Princess Royal
(etc.)

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at May 19, 2012 03:51 PM (d6QMz)

172 Wow. How do they do that? With acid?

WIth the stroke of a pen.  It's in her powers and it's been exercised (and refused) in Canada and Australia - against the wishes of the respective parliaments.

The general argument is, "Sure, she can ... but if she did everyone would be so ticked that they would make laws barring it ..."

Yeah ... But the fact is:

The Queen has that power.  Still.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2012 04:13 PM (X3lox)

173 The last Englishman with any balls rests in Churchill's tomb.

The last Englishwoman with any balls is Lady Thatcher.

Posted by: John Bull at May 19, 2012 05:56 PM (u3N3z)

174 I'm pretty sure that picture offends me.

Posted by: Some Radical UK Muslim at May 19, 2012 06:01 PM (DQHjw)

175 Take back the Falklands?  I'm wondering if they can take back Londonistan, Birminghamstan, and the other once proud english cities that are now dominated heart and soul by the Pakis.

Posted by: Frank Capra at May 19, 2012 08:01 PM (dV09h)

176 Actually, Miss80sBaby, the revised Act of Succession would only affect the line beginning with William and Kate's children. If their first child is a daughter, she would become Queen, regardless of any younger brothers. Previous generations remain unaffected, otherwise they'd have some German descendant of Empress Frederick (Victoria, Princess Royal, oldest child of Queen Victoria) trying to claim the throne.

Posted by: Alia at May 20, 2012 06:41 PM (2mJE0)

177 I've seen some contradictions about whether it would be applied respectively. Assuming that it is not applied retrospectively and William and Kate have three children born girl-boy-boy as well as leaving aside other as-yet unborn family members, the order of succession would be-
 
(1) Charles, Prince of Wales
(2) William, Duke of Cambridge
(3) Daughter
(4) Son
(5) Son
(6) Prince Henry of Wales
(7) Prince Andrew, Duke of York
( Princess Beatrice of York
(9) Princess Eugenie of York
(10) Prince Edward, Earl of Essex
(etc.)


If they did it retrospectively, it would be--

(1) Charles, Prince of Wales
(2) Prince William, Duke of Cambridge
(3) Daughter
(4) Son
(5) Son
(6) Prince Henry of Wales
(7) Anne, Princess Royal
(etc.)

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at May 20, 2012 08:25 PM (d6QMz)

178 *Applied retrospectively

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at May 20, 2012 08:29 PM (d6QMz)

179 "There was a time when Britain had a pair. I hope they find them again."

Check with Thatcher. She's the last one I know who had them.

Posted by: John T at May 21, 2012 10:04 AM (iaajL)

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