April 07, 2012
— Dave in Texas and oceans.
This will likely lead to carbon tax credits on submarines. Which will hit the Chicoms in the britches cause ours are all nukes.
via Slublog, and JoeBastardi, who rocks "scientific" fables with unpleasant facts.
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Posted by: scottst at April 07, 2012 07:31 AM (dRGlb)
Posted by: soothsayer at April 07, 2012 07:34 AM (jUytm)
Posted by: Latte' drinking liberal rocket chemist at April 07, 2012 07:34 AM (PVB6D)
Posted by: cherry at April 07, 2012 07:35 AM (OhYCU)
Posted by: soothsayer at April 07, 2012 07:37 AM (jUytm)
Posted by: wheatie at April 07, 2012 07:37 AM (+5U+B)
Posted by: soothsayer at April 07, 2012 07:39 AM (jUytm)
Posted by: t-bird at April 07, 2012 07:39 AM (l/xhO)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 07, 2012 07:39 AM (FIE/L)
Posted by: That's "Mr. Squarepants", to you at April 07, 2012 07:39 AM (+5U+B)
Posted by: dfbaskwill at April 07, 2012 07:41 AM (ndlFj)
Posted by: soothsayer at April 07, 2012 07:41 AM (jUytm)
Posted by: t-bird at April 07, 2012 07:42 AM (l/xhO)
Posted by: Vic at April 07, 2012 07:43 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: cherry at April 07, 2012 07:45 AM (OhYCU)
They do not have one, its just a # fit to the 15-25 years when the earth happened to be warming quite a bit and CO2 levels rose but only enough to account for 1/3 of the temperature increase the computer models said was in addition to normal oscillations.
Most likely the dumb bunnies didn't get the PDO and AMO right although they will say that the climate models include them and then there may be other factors as yet unknown (possibly cosmic ray interactions with cloud formation driven by solar activity) that will create a multiplier/positive feedback effect to the very modest CO2 warming at some times and a dividing/tamping effect at others.
Certainly it is insane that Europe shot their economy in the foot over this, we came very close to doing so here, and BarryO is unconstitionally hobbling the economy with it as an excuse and getting away with it.
Posted by: Palerider at April 07, 2012 07:47 AM (FBj6Z)
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Sandra Fluke is a prepper?
Posted by: Anachronda at April 07, 2012 07:50 AM (6fER6)
Posted by: Baraka Obama at April 07, 2012 07:50 AM (l/xhO)
16 OT: a girl is on preppers, she has 160 condoms in her bug-out bag. Priorities, people.
She said that should last for 'about a week'. Heh.
Did you see that couple who is stocking up on bottles of alcoholic beverages....."only to use for barter"....because they don't drink?
What gets me, is seeing all the concern for "security" and how they are worried about the zombie hordes coming to their door to loot their supplies.....and yet, they are showing them where they are...on tv!
Posted by: wheatie at April 07, 2012 07:51 AM (+5U+B)
Posted by: I want a cylon wife-hammering machine please at April 07, 2012 07:51 AM (+6ZZN)
CO2 and climate change... the PHYSICS do not work.
First, the theory of Greenhouse Gases.
All energy comes to, and leaves the Earth as Radiation.
Radiation comes from the Sun, in a specific spectrum (including light), and is then either Reflected back to space, absorbed by the Atmosphere, or absorbed by the earth's surface.
Energy is also Radiated by all matter (called Black Body Radiation) in specific wavelengths dependent primarily on the Temperature of the mass.
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Matter also will absorb radiation, but different molecules absorb different frequencies of radiation energy... known as the absorption spectrum. This energy will raise the energy state of the molecule, which it will then either reradiate (as blackbody radiation), or loose energy through conduction.
The theory behind a greenhouse gas is that the Gas will absorb incoming radiation from the sun, and through conduction, heat the rest of the air around it. It will also absorb IR radiation radiated by the Earth itself (black body radiation again), and use conduction to spread it to the rest of the atmosphere.
So, is CO2 a Greenhouse Gas? YES, it is, but only up to a point.
CO2 ONLY absorbs IR energy in well known, and clearly defined frequencies, which comprise about 8% of the IR Spectrum. This IR can come from the Sun, the Blackbody radiation of the Earth, or the Blackbody Radiation of the atmosphere itself.
The problem is that ALL of the IR radiation in the Earth's biosphere, within those frequency ranges IS ALREADY BEING ABSORBED!
http://www.nov55.com/atmo.html
The above chart is a visual representation of the Energy absorption spectrums of the atmosphere, and the %'s of those spectrums being absorbed. If you look at the CO2 absorption frequencies, you will see that they are already at 100% absorption...
or, to put it simply, there is no more energy to absorb, thus there can be no Temperature increase by adding more CO2!
So, in conclusion, is CO2 a Greenhouse Gas? YES! But its already reached its maximum Greenhouse effect, adding more will not do anything.
Therefore, the Cap and Trade legislation will not do anything except bankrupt us.
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 07, 2012 07:52 AM (lZBBB)
My bug-out plan is to steal the supplies of these fools.
Posted by: cherry at April 07, 2012 07:54 AM (OhYCU)
Posted by: Palerider at April 07, 2012 07:54 AM (FBj6Z)
There's no money to be made mau-mauing countries and stupid people with that model. It's simple:
1. Extort idiots
2.?
3.Profit!
Posted by: Roy at April 07, 2012 07:55 AM (tiOTz)
Posted by: cherry at April 07, 2012 07:56 AM (OhYCU)
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Yes, but they are closely related.
Q = UA( deltaT) heat flow (BTU per time)
Q = C(deltaT) heat absorbed or given off (BTU)
Posted by: Vic at April 07, 2012 07:57 AM (YdQQY)
Doesn't matter how fast (Heat Transfer Coefficient) it happens, we've got time... millions of years if necessary. But that atmosphere is surrounding a giant heat sink. Never mind the mechanism of global warming, which no Global Warming proponent can explain, the time factor is what really cooks the whole theory.
But if you have so much guilt re being human, so little faith in man's ability to solve actual problems, and so much need to be depressed, then you can believe in the Global Warming Hobgoblin.
Posted by: scottst at April 07, 2012 07:57 AM (dRGlb)
(Am I doing this right?)
Posted by: Dang at April 07, 2012 08:00 AM (BbX1b)
26....Therefore, the Cap and Trade legislation will not do anything except bankrupt us.
Cap and Trade was a scam from the beginning. ....It allows the polluters to keep right on polluting, as long as they pay up. Then they simply pass on the additional cost....to the consumer.
Posted by: wheatie at April 07, 2012 08:00 AM (+5U+B)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at April 07, 2012 08:00 AM (mIToD)
An old friend of mine got hammered one night and devised a theory of statistics called "Probability Pressure."
That's when the coin flip comes up 10x in a row heads...the probability that the next flip comes up tails is overwhelming.
It sounds great...makes intuitive sense to those who don't understand...but it is catastrophically wrong.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 07, 2012 08:01 AM (nEUpB)
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It allows the CO2 emitters to keep right on emitting, as long as they pay up.
CO2 is not pollution.
Posted by: Vic at April 07, 2012 08:03 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Jimmah at April 07, 2012 08:04 AM (UpwlP)
Posted by: cherry
That's exactly what I thought. That and she should put a little note on her pick up truck politely asking people to not mess with it or take that gas out of it. "Thanks so much!!! God luck with the apocalypse!!!"
Those condoms are for whorin'. Wish they'd shown her preppin' for that. Okay, maybe not.
Posted by: Dang at April 07, 2012 08:05 AM (BbX1b)
Posted by: Frankly at April 07, 2012 08:06 AM (h30A5)
Serious question, something I don't understand.
How can anything be a greenhouse gas? We don't live in a greenhouse. We have an atmosphere that thins out the higher you go. Unlike the roof or covering of a true greenhouse.
So it should be two different things.
Am I missing something?
Posted by: HH at April 07, 2012 08:08 AM (KB0hv)
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Yes, but they are closely related.
Q = UA( deltaT) heat flow (BTU per time)
Q = C(deltaT) heat absorbed or given off (BTU)
Vic -- do you have a link that might give practical applications of that?
I constructed a 'hot house' (sort of) to harden off tomato plants, and it seems to work, but I'm doing it with Scientific Wild Ass Guesswork.
I'm just using "a buttload" of water jugs.
Posted by: jwb7605 at April 07, 2012 08:10 AM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: Cato at April 07, 2012 08:11 AM (WkE74)
Posted by: Mama AJ, Pasty-Hispanic at April 07, 2012 08:13 AM (XdlcF)
Posted by: Mama AJ, Pasty-Hispanic at April 07, 2012 08:14 AM (XdlcF)
Posted by: Democrats For[i]ever![/i] at April 07, 2012 08:14 AM (l/xhO)
Posted by: cherry at April 07, 2012 08:15 AM (OhYCU)
39 It allows the polluters to keep right on polluting, as long as they pay up.
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It allows the CO2 emitters to keep right on emitting, as long as they pay up.
CO2 is not pollution.
True, Vic. .....I should've use quote marks on 'polluters'. ....My point is that Cap and Trade was sold to us as a way to "curb pollution"....when in fact, it enables it more than it curbs it...and it adds more cost to the consumer as a result.
Posted by: wheatie at April 07, 2012 08:15 AM (+5U+B)
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 07, 2012 08:15 AM (R5yLq)
Wake me up when they have determined the relative impact on CC by that BIG FUCKING STAR 8 light minutes away.
Posted by: Jimbo at April 07, 2012 08:17 AM (O3R/2)
Please, please. Click on these ads. Make Obama pay. Every day.
Posted by: cherry at April 07, 2012 08:18 AM (OhYCU)
"How can anything be a greenhouse gas? We don't live in a greenhouse. We have an atmosphere that thins out the higher you go. Unlike the roof or covering of a true greenhouse."
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You have hit on something without knowing it. The computer models for global warming postulate the existence of a "hot spot" in the troposphere. According to the models, the hot spot must exist and it will cause warmer air to be reflected back down to earth.
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Just one problem. Now that we have 20 years of accurate temperature measurements of the troposphere, we now know there is no hot spot.
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Hot spot fail, global warming fail. Put that together with the observed lack of an amplification factor associated with higher levels of CO2 and the entire theory is destroyed.
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It's just a religion now. And not a good one.
Posted by: Meremortal at April 07, 2012 08:21 AM (Usk3+)
Posted by: ClickToVictory at April 07, 2012 08:21 AM (OhYCU)
Posted by: President Wee Wee at April 07, 2012 08:23 AM (KWdVT)
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A hot house doesn't work like that unless you did something like place large vats of water in it which would tend to limit the temperature swings between night and day by absorbing heat.
Posted by: Vic at April 07, 2012 08:24 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: soothsayer at April 07, 2012 08:26 AM (jUytm)
The thing is that the term "Greenhouse effect" is a misnomer.
That leads to the terms Greenhouse Gas and "trapping" of energy, and others which are all failures of etymology.
There is no array of glass panels surrounding our earth. The Greenhouse effect was named because of the idea that it artificially heats our atmosphere. As a Greenhouse does, but via a different mechanism.
Posted by: scottst at April 07, 2012 08:31 AM (dRGlb)
@Vic
Yep, nailed it. If you notice too most Greenhouses have watter runing through them all over the place (usually you find it running along the joints that hold the glass together.
Posted by: tsrblke at April 07, 2012 08:32 AM (SYrwI)
61 Fructose?
That's that stuff that plants give off, and if you eat it...it makes you too fat to have sex. So it's bad.
Posted by: typical Youtube yoot at April 07, 2012 08:33 AM (+5U+B)
Posted by: Jornolist at April 07, 2012 08:33 AM (9hlKZ)
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The blob? 90% fructose.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0051418/
Posted by: Anachronda at April 07, 2012 08:33 AM (6fER6)
Sent a little note to NPR this morning about yesteday's "All Things Considered" show. They interviewed this Aussie moonbat who said she had grad students analyze the positive/negative ratio of articles about Globaloney in Murdoch's papers down under. It was about 18% positive, 82% negative, and she and NPR concluded that this showed "bias".
So I asked them to explain what NPR's ratio of 100% positive, 0% negative showed, and opined that the concept of irony must be totally lost on them.
Also mentioned that I look forward to the day when we can start calling NPR "National Piltdown Radio"! On further reflection, hell, why wait?
NPR = National Piltdown Radio!
Posted by: sherlock at April 07, 2012 08:33 AM (8ra42)
That's exactly what I've done.
I've got a 5'x6' raised bed enclosed by a 4 foot wall, which are 2x2's held together with chicken wire, covered by painter's plastic. Chicken wire makes this "wind resistant".
I grow cucumbers in that during summer (cucumbers climb the chicken wire).
Inside that, I've got about 50 or 60 gallons of water around the outside. So far. I need to drink more milk. Milk jugs are "two stories tall", bottom layer is two jugs wide.
What I want to know is how cold outside it can get before things freeze inside up to a certain height.
Empirically, this is working to an outside temperature of 27 degrees Fahrenheit, but I'd like to "compute" things.
Posted by: jwb7605 at April 07, 2012 08:38 AM (Qxe/p)
You can disprove AGW with math and geometry:
Which is why you will never be able to convince most liberals/politicians of the fallacy of their "religion"....
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at April 07, 2012 08:39 AM (0xqzf)
Posted by: Jornolist at April 07, 2012 08:40 AM (9hlKZ)
He did a short version of his famous slide show and I was stunned to find that nowhere in the discussion did he explain what was actually happening, the "how", the specific mechanism, as chemists or engineers say.
So I girded my loins and watched the Inconvenient Movie and found the same thing. Lots of What, Why and sorely lacking in How.
Then I started searching the internets and WikiEverything and still came up short. You had to go balls deep into the Wikipedia to find a page which finally explained it. Criticism of this situation led to this page, which describes the actual theory:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_effect
It has only been in existence for a couple years. No wonder everyone has been so confused.
Posted by: scottst at April 07, 2012 08:40 AM (dRGlb)
Posted by: soothsayer at April 07, 2012 08:43 AM (jUytm)
Looks like it was a government land grab to support crony solar power installations.
http://tinyurl.com/6t2tz9t
Posted by: Anachronda at April 07, 2012 08:43 AM (6fER6)
Posted by: soothsayer at April 07, 2012 08:44 AM (jUytm)
That's always a warning sign.
Posted by: scottst at April 07, 2012 08:44 AM (dRGlb)
This.
I always said cruising around a 1 million mile wide ongoing nuclear explosion at 60,000 mph at 1 AU distance isn't exactly ideal if you want climate consistency.
Posted by: Berserker at April 07, 2012 08:45 AM (FMbng)
73 Oops, appeared on Obama-- I meant Oprah.
Almost the same. ....I figured that's who you meant. Heh.
Posted by: wheatie at April 07, 2012 08:46 AM (+5U+B)
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 07, 2012 08:49 AM (R5yLq)
Posted by: soothsayer at April 07, 2012 08:50 AM (jUytm)
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 07, 2012 08:52 AM (R5yLq)
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Why does Sean Bean have to get killed so soon in everything?
I think he's said some conservative things, from time to time.....so that's why he's had trouble getting better roles.
Posted by: wheatie at April 07, 2012 08:55 AM (+5U+B)
Why does Sean Bean have to get killed so soon in everything?
Posted by: soothsayer at April 07, 2012 12:50 PM (jUytm)
May I suggest to you the 'Sharpes Rifles' series of Movies? He manages to live through about 20 of those...
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 07, 2012 08:56 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Burt's dog at April 07, 2012 09:00 AM (Gc/Qi)
I think it will be enjoyable.
Posted by: toby928© at April 07, 2012 09:01 AM (GTbGH)
Posted by: soothsayer at April 07, 2012 09:02 AM (jUytm)
Posted by: soothsayer at April 07, 2012 09:02 AM (jUytm)
Dude! I never realized that was the same guy. I'm pretty damn oblivious sometimes.
Posted by: toby928© at April 07, 2012 09:03 AM (GTbGH)
Posted by: soothsayer at April 07, 2012 09:04 AM (jUytm)
Posted by: The Sun at April 07, 2012 09:04 AM (BbX1b)
A big difference. I believe Joe is a sincere man, not a nut, but imho he's not professionally qualified to inform us on the subject.
There are many scientists, people with the proper disciplines, that would beg to differ with Joe's findings.
Insert the usual Joe's ' last name' snark, here.
Posted by: Dinah Kanser at April 07, 2012 09:04 AM (db4pz)
Posted by: soothsayer at April 07, 2012 09:06 AM (jUytm)
Posted by: Steve at April 07, 2012 09:07 AM (z/HBC)
Posted by: soothsayer at April 07, 2012 01:06 PM (jUytm)
Charlatan? Crazy? Confused? Confounded? Con-man?
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 07, 2012 09:07 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: soothsayer at April 07, 2012 09:08 AM (jUytm)
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Sean Bean should've had Viggo's role in LotR.
At least Sean Bean wouldn't have had to struggle with having a British accent....like Viggo did. ....Both Viggo and Liv Tyler did piss poor jobs with faking an accent.
Posted by: wheatie at April 07, 2012 09:08 AM (+5U+B)
Posted by: soothsayer at April 07, 2012 09:09 AM (jUytm)
He got kicked off the team early in Ronin, OTOH, but wasn't killed.
Posted by: Waterhouse at April 07, 2012 09:10 AM (s7Vjw)
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You would use the equations I posted above but the problem is that you will never be able to find data that will tell you how fast those milk jugs radiate heat.
Q = Cp(T1 –T2) Cp for pure water at atmospheric pressure is 1 for all practical purposes.
So assume your initial temperature is 50° which is probably about right for a hothouse in the Winter at equilibrium and the final temp is 32° when it freezes. That is a drop of 28° giving 32 BTU/lb, or 246 BTU per jug. Then the water must give up 144 BTU/lbm with each jug being approximately 8 lb = 1152 BTU per jug.
Then you must feed that back into the equation Qr = UA(T1-T2), the problem being you do not know the value of U and A. You can determine that by experiment. Take a jug of that water and insert a waterproof temperature probe and place them in a refrigerator for 1 hour and observe the temp drop. That will give you UA for that given temp range. This is not a linear function but it is close enough for government work given the small range of temp change. Ex: Suppose the temp goes from 70° to 50° in one hour. We know that is 20 BTU drop or 20 BTU/hr. To get the 1152 BTU drop it would take about 57 hours.
Posted by: Vic at April 07, 2012 09:10 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: soothsayer at April 07, 2012 09:10 AM (jUytm)
Posted by: Waterhouse at April 07, 2012 09:10 AM (s7Vjw)
Posted by: soothsayer at April 07, 2012 09:10 AM (jUytm)
Posted by: Vic at April 07, 2012 09:11 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: wheatie at April 07, 2012 09:11 AM (+5U+B)
Posted by: soothsayer at April 07, 2012 09:12 AM (jUytm)
Posted by: Waterhouse at April 07, 2012 09:12 AM (s7Vjw)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 07, 2012 09:12 AM (UTq/I)
Posted by: Waterhouse at April 07, 2012 01:12 PM (s7Vjw)
Because Chinese accents would be really out of place.
Posted by: buzzion at April 07, 2012 09:14 AM (GULKT)
Posted by: BurtTC at April 07, 2012 09:17 AM (Gc/Qi)
It's easier when you start with the answer and adjust the constants accordingly
Posted by: Al Gore at April 07, 2012 09:18 AM (nEUpB)
It seems like American actors who have a southern accent, are better at faking a British accent. ....Probably because they already use pronunciations like 'evah' and 'bettah'....dropping their R's.
And British actors seem to be able to master an American southern accent quite well....often times even better than some American actors do.
Posted by: wheatie at April 07, 2012 09:18 AM (+5U+B)
It was deeply flawed but still a huge amount of fun. And the chick with the Irish accent is smokin'!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 07, 2012 09:20 AM (nEUpB)
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 07, 2012 09:20 AM (niZvt)
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Posted by: Vic at April 07, 2012 01:10 PM (YdQQY)
I was really hoping you wouldn't say that.
I've been doing min/max measurements inside the 'structure', and using the data from the link in my name (about 15 feet away) for comparison data.
Thanks, though!
Posted by: jwb7605 at April 07, 2012 09:21 AM (Qxe/p)
Omg.....that vomit scene in The Replacements....still hilarious, even though I've seen it a dozen times. ....All those boiled eggs that Jumbo ate, then hoarked on the field.
Hmm....boiled eggs. Maybe Spike is running this movie on Easter weekend because of that. Heh.
Posted by: wheatie at April 07, 2012 09:21 AM (+5U+B)
Posted by: soothsayer at April 07, 2012 09:22 AM (jUytm)
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 07, 2012 09:24 AM (R5yLq)
Would Romney qualify to be called a 'White Hispanic'? ....His dad was born in Mexico.
Rubio would too, I guess....wouldn't he?
Posted by: wheatie, wondering out loud about weird shit, again... at April 07, 2012 09:26 AM (+5U+B)
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 07, 2012 09:26 AM (R5yLq)
Posted by: jack at April 07, 2012 09:27 AM (XhzTz)
Posted by: soothsayer at April 07, 2012 09:27 AM (jUytm)
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 07, 2012 09:28 AM (R5yLq)
Posted by: BurtTC at April 07, 2012 09:28 AM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: soothsayer at April 07, 2012 09:28 AM (jUytm)
http://www.johnderbyshire.com/Recent/page.html
They've already condemned it at NRO, but it sound like the talk some people need to hear.
Posted by: jack at April 07, 2012 01:27 PM (XhzTz)
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Massive back and forth over that in the previous thread. Still going on in fact.
Posted by: Vic at April 07, 2012 09:29 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: chemjeff at April 07, 2012 12:00 PM (7FadD)
So so right. The way I put it: They treat science as if it were a religion.
Posted by: AmishDude at April 07, 2012 09:30 AM (fNK8e)
http://tinyurl.com/88uq3tz
Posted by: kbdabear at April 07, 2012 09:31 AM (Y+DPZ)
He substantiated almost all of his assertions but you just AREN'T ALLOWED to say some of that stuff anymore. It has nothing to do with facts, it's just not allowed. For example, if you say that statistically a group of young black males in dark hoodies are more dangerous than a group of white middle aged females in Lily Pulitzer dresses then you are a racist and deserve, essentially to die.
This is going to be a huge deal and any minute everyone, including ace, is going to say that Derbyshire helped Obama and hurt zimmerman and should just never have opened his mouth. Essentially, you cannot have an opinion or assert a fact that is in conflict with the mission statement of the elite progressives or the MSM.
Ugh. This is going to be so ugly.,
Posted by: dagny doesn't want to forget Andrew at April 07, 2012 09:34 AM (CMM9V)
Cp is not linear with temp either and the "real equations" for heat transfer involve calculus which I haven't done in so long I wouldn't even know where to start. Those equation that I use are approximations which people in the power industry use.
They also are close enough for government work in the ranges that we use.
Posted by: Vic at April 07, 2012 09:34 AM (YdQQY)
There are many scientists, people with the proper disciplines, that would beg to differ with Joe's findings.Posted by: Dinah Kanser
Ah, Appeal to Expert. Logical fallacy. Points deducted.
Care to try again?
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at April 07, 2012 09:35 AM (JEpGb)
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Hell, he is being roundly condemned by our people in the previous thread but I have yet to hear anyone refute a single one of his points.
Posted by: Vic at April 07, 2012 09:35 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: soothsayer at April 07, 2012 09:36 AM (jUytm)
I appreciate all you nerds talking science, but you're not going to prove to these people that the boogeyman isn't real. You can't, because they believe in him.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 07, 2012 01:17 PM (Gc/Qi)
Then you do what I did... and walk in with a Naked Sword... and tell the children there are NO boogeymen here... because they are scared of Daddy's Monster Killing Sword...
And since Daddy KNOWS there are no Boogeymen here, Daddy does not need to be waken up for them... and if it happens too many times... Someone is getting a spanking.
Problem with the AGW fraud crowd? is the spanking is not coming...
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 07, 2012 09:37 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: soothsayer at April 07, 2012 09:37 AM (jUytm)
Posted by: buzzion at April 07, 2012 09:41 AM (GULKT)
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 07, 2012 09:45 AM (R5yLq)
Posted by: dagny doesn't want to forget Andrew at April 07, 2012 09:47 AM (CMM9V)
Posted by: BurtTC at April 07, 2012 09:47 AM (Gc/Qi)
http://tinyurl.com/bowvmt5
Posted by: jwb7605 at April 07, 2012 09:49 AM (Qxe/p)
145.....eventually the kids will be running the house, which I believe is the case these days, is it not?
Lord of the Flies....comes to mind. .....Saul Alinsky probably loved that book.
Posted by: wheatie at April 07, 2012 09:51 AM (+5U+B)
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 07, 2012 09:54 AM (R5yLq)
Posted by: Vic at April 07, 2012 01:35 PM (YdQQY)
I grew up in suburban MD, living and working in Montgomery, Prince George's, and Charles counties for 42 years. These are all counties with large black populations, PG county predominantly so. I also have worked extensively in Washington DC.
I can tell you that there is nothing in Derbyshire's article that I find major fault with.
Posted by: Jones in CO at April 07, 2012 09:55 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: dagny doesn't want to forget Andrew at April 07, 2012 09:55 AM (CMM9V)
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I lived in Port Deposit (Cecil County) for a while back in 1971. Small town.
The county I live in now is 42% black.
Posted by: Vic at April 07, 2012 10:12 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 07, 2012 10:25 AM (FIE/L)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Mobile at April 07, 2012 10:51 AM (AjZhM)
Posted by: BurtTC at April 07, 2012 01:47 PM (Gc/Qi)
ah... but I do have a 'Credential' which says I can spank... its the Birth Certificate which has me listed as 'Father'
But for the AGW crowd? They should be up on charges of Fraud... they were not just wrong, but they knowingly LIED to the public... and yes, because our Tax dollars are used for this fraud, we would have standing as we ALL were damaged by this.
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 07, 2012 11:03 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 07, 2012 02:25 PM (FIE/L)
Is that where he went? I thought we were going to Denmark or somthing...
Posted by: Morgenstern at April 07, 2012 11:03 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Tom Stoppard at April 07, 2012 11:24 AM (FIE/L)
Hey, there Throckmortons of Teh Right. It's official that we hate science--because now there's a book saying exactly that.
Because it's not just science...it's neuroscience. Try to wrap your amygdalas around that (Mine has been continually stimulated since January 20, 2009).
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 07, 2012 12:18 PM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 07, 2012 12:19 PM (Ec6wH)
simply put, fuck you.
Go play your editorial nazi fantasy on someone else.
This aint my first rodeo.
I speak from the heart and what I say is true about ole Joe.
The only one here contrived is looking at you in the mirror
Get over yourself.
Don't post if you can't contribute to the proceedings.
There are plenty of other boards for petulant children, such as yourself, to post on, to your hearts content. Major pwnage, dood.
In closing... fuck you (again) and the horse you came in on.
Sincerely
- Dinah
D/N/T
Posted by: Dinah Kanser at April 07, 2012 04:53 PM (db4pz)
Sooo what will the fire dept use to put out fires? AGW crowd=RICO.
Ya know the Mafia is facepalming saying "Hows da fuck does we get a piece of dis here?".
Posted by: hutch1200 at April 07, 2012 06:34 PM (YzN0z)
Posted by: steevy at April 07, 2012 07:18 PM (7W3wI)
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