June 25, 2012
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Posted by: Dr Spank at June 25, 2012 04:03 PM (I/Xad)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 25, 2012 04:03 PM (d0Tfm)
Even then, maybe not. No one wants to touch this, and people are getting hurt.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 25, 2012 04:05 PM (gA69l)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 25, 2012 04:05 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Popcorn at June 25, 2012 04:05 PM (OOehk)
Posted by: PaleRider at June 25, 2012 04:06 PM (dkExz)
Posted by: The Jackhole at June 25, 2012 04:06 PM (nTgAI)
Posted by: Dr Spank at June 25, 2012 08:03 PM (I/Xad)
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Probably. I.E. Fast and Furious (and that's still a hanging chad)
Posted by: Soona at June 25, 2012 04:06 PM (fcWxr)
Posted by: indigo child at June 25, 2012 04:07 PM (xXhWA)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at June 25, 2012 04:07 PM (8beAV)
Posted by: Joe Mama at June 25, 2012 04:07 PM (TLHj1)
Posted by: jimi ray at June 25, 2012 04:07 PM (FcOR4)
Posted by: auscolpyr at June 25, 2012 04:08 PM (BwDfs)
Unless I missed it, Rush hasn't talked about it at all. Very few of the biggies have, except Beck.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 25, 2012 04:08 PM (gA69l)
I am wondering if this is what it appears to be. I guess we will find out soon enough.
Posted by: The Jackhole at June 25, 2012 04:09 PM (nTgAI)
Posted by: indigo child at June 25, 2012 04:09 PM (xXhWA)
They must be pretty cinfident in their method of escaping detection, or stupid, or both.
The, ahem, principals in this case are well connected to Dims. They know that if this reaches DC, nothing will happen. One of them is tied to the Stop Rush effort.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 25, 2012 04:09 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: drawandstrike at June 25, 2012 04:10 PM (EERTp)
Posted by: steevy at June 25, 2012 04:10 PM (Xb3hu)
He is that much of a sociopath.
Posted by: Arms Merchant at June 25, 2012 04:11 PM (+XVQe)
Posted by: steevy at June 25, 2012 04:12 PM (Xb3hu)
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at June 25, 2012 04:12 PM (XIRMS)
Posted by: MeBigLyingSquaw at June 25, 2012 04:13 PM (SiSXi)
Posted by: Andrea Mitchell at June 25, 2012 04:13 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at June 25, 2012 04:13 PM (44/AS)
Posted by: Soona at June 25, 2012 04:13 PM (fcWxr)
Posted by: Popcorn at June 25, 2012 04:13 PM (OOehk)
The MBM classifies them as "pranks"
No, a prank is giving a bus token to an unemployed journalist begging for change on the freeway off ramp
Posted by: kbdabear at June 25, 2012 04:13 PM (Y+DPZ)
24 He will claim that somehow the wingnuts are swatting themselves and blaming it on him.
He's already been doing that.
Posted by: wheatie at June 25, 2012 04:13 PM (0T8H7)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at June 25, 2012 04:14 PM (8beAV)
Posted by: IdowhatIwant at June 25, 2012 04:15 PM (a4CUi)
Posted by: Bill at June 25, 2012 04:15 PM (cQ6oO)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at June 25, 2012 04:16 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: steevy at June 25, 2012 04:16 PM (Xb3hu)
Posted by: Popcorn at June 25, 2012 08:13 PM (OOehk)
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They're primarily an outgrowth of the drug war, although terrorism is the new excuse.
Yet another example of your liberties being stolen while we outsourced our government.
Posted by: Arms Merchant at June 25, 2012 04:16 PM (+XVQe)
They're a detective's best friend in Philly. They serve all of our high-risk warrants (for shootings and homicide warrants).
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 25, 2012 04:18 PM (gA69l)
Posted by: IdowhatIwant at June 25, 2012 08:15 PM (a4CUi)
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Yup. I'm glad I'm not a conservative politician in IN.
Posted by: Soona at June 25, 2012 04:18 PM (fcWxr)
40 What steevy said. At this point it's *very* possible, even likely, that various Internet losers have discovered how to SWAT and are doing it for the lulz.
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Yeah, those kids that bullied the bus monitor got SWATted. This is going to get out of control.
Posted by: indigo child at June 25, 2012 04:18 PM (xXhWA)
Posted by: mallfly at June 25, 2012 04:18 PM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Hal at June 25, 2012 04:19 PM (iYvMQ)
Posted by: Barney F. at June 25, 2012 04:20 PM (VswEk)
So what to do? If you feel that you might be threatened, get to know local law enforcement and give them a heads up. They're pretty friendly guys.
Most law enforcement officers possess common sense. Since the lefty cowards are hoping you get whacked on accident, it would be a good idea to take that part out of the equation until further action can be taken.
Posted by: ErikW at June 25, 2012 04:23 PM (EEM3d)
Posted by: mallfly at June 25, 2012 04:24 PM (bJm7W)
Posted by: toby928© at June 25, 2012 04:24 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Sonnyspats at June 25, 2012 04:27 PM (Qr9Rc)
Posted by: Dianna at June 25, 2012 04:28 PM (jWPoM)
But how does one do it and trick emergency call receipt technology into recording and reporting a bogus number and location?
I know that caller ID can be fooled with the right kind of stuff going on in a cell phone (calling phone X can be made to look like calling phone Y) and if GPS tracking is done also, the phony call can be made from a hidden place nearby, but who goes to all this trouble?
As with al Quaida bomb-making, the tech being available on websites, is it the same for phone hacking, so that the loonies have a central place to go for the how-to?
Sounds as if one should live as if in witness protection, with phony ID, a bunch of burner cellphones, and a few safe-houses in which to chill. Access to web via 3G only, through a phony account.
Posted by: TheLittlShiningMan at June 25, 2012 04:28 PM (PH+2B)
Posted by: Raquel at June 25, 2012 04:28 PM (IOOQb)
Posted by: Richard Aubrey at June 25, 2012 04:28 PM (z4bFV)
Posted by: steevy at June 25, 2012 08:16 PM (Xb3hu)
Law enforcement grew under Clinton as money was handed out to towns and cities across the land.
Posted by: Cicero Kid at June 25, 2012 04:30 PM (IyjUs)
Posted by: Another Bob at June 25, 2012 04:30 PM (RJMcc)
One of two things: 1. Not enough for a search warrant yet. In Philly, getting a search warrant is an arduous endeavor. Sometimes, even probable cause isn't enough for our ADAs. 2. The appropriate agencies don't wish to pursue the matter.
Most likely #2.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 25, 2012 04:33 PM (gA69l)
Posted by: Cobalt Shiva at June 25, 2012 04:33 PM (1iauC)
Posted by: toby928© at June 25, 2012 04:34 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Thunderb at June 25, 2012 04:40 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: cowards; hiding behind anonymous at June 25, 2012 04:42 PM (HOOye)
>> it's possible that lone wolf imitators are doing the SWATing now.
Yeah. That's what they're going for. That's their MO. That's why they post personal details of right-wingers, and flatter criminals like "Anonymous".
Posted by: sandy burger at June 25, 2012 04:42 PM (y15sM)
911 shouldn't be using caller id, that can be spoofed very easily. They should be using ONI (originating number identification) which can NOT be spoofed by the originator.
GPS can also be spoofed and devices are made to do this. You can get a device which basically spoofs GPS satellite signals and can make the phone believe it is in any location you want it to be. You just enter the location where you wish the phone to be located and it will think it is there. So even GPS information from the phone isn't believable.
Posted by: crosspatch at June 25, 2012 04:44 PM (ZbLJZ)
Posted by: Deli LLama at June 25, 2012 04:45 PM (uv9eO)
Posted by: Ian S. at June 25, 2012 04:45 PM (GZEi7)
I hope that tools are granted to Law Enforcement to track these calls to their source, so that they might be punished suitably. If these stories get more play, I can see the officers around the nation petitioning for those tools, because the few times that I have been manipulated into playing someone else' game I was more angry than if they had punched me, and cops aren't exactly maidens or forgiving being played the fool.
Posted by: Douglas at June 25, 2012 04:46 PM (YKOnu)
Posted by: Another Bob at June 25, 2012 08:30 PM (RJMcc)
Probable cause. The fact that they are tangentially connected to the victims and have reason to do the actions probably isn't enough to get a judge to issue a warrant. Especially when the warrant will be served on a hyper-litigious douchenozzle. Patterico's audio expert might be enough to get a warrant, but most judges and LEO's (especially federal LEO's) like to get a smoking gun before they will issue a warrant.
Posted by: Komissar Vladimir at June 25, 2012 04:47 PM (wWlUR)
Posted by: Clemenza at June 25, 2012 04:49 PM (qA9lG)
Posted by: The Jackhole at June 25, 2012 08:06 PM (nTgAI)
Well that would be the rational action. But if you look at the MO of BK and NR, they think they're very clever and know how to game teh system. So they will tend to escalate in order to intimidate rather than back down. In NR's case he may very well be mentally ill as well so who knows what's going on in his head.
Posted by: Mætenloch at June 25, 2012 04:49 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: Jack at June 25, 2012 04:52 PM (wUFaM)
Posted by: sandy burger at June 25, 2012 04:54 PM (y15sM)
The other bad thing, is what if you aren't at home when this call comes in?
Out and about, come home, police surrounding your house or apt, and maybe have fired some Tear Gas bombs through the window?
Jesus, someone needs to pay for this...
Posted by: HH at June 25, 2012 04:54 PM (v+ExF)
Actually, their "bag of tricks" seems pretty limited. Not that I want them to get more creative, but this swatting thing is going to be harder to pull off once law enforcement catches on. I assume the guys who participated in the "let's blog about Voldemort Day" has already reached out to police.
Keep a prayer for Aaron and his family.
Sorry. Not Voldemort. "Convicted Speedway bomber Brett Kimberlin." TM Who I'm not saying is involved. Same with Raufhauser and the "bean dogs."
Posted by: ukuleledave at June 25, 2012 04:55 PM (TCsN3)
Leftist ideology provides a comfortable home for the sociopathic personality type.
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at June 25, 2012 08:51 PM (vbh31)
And it looks really, really ugly. Smells bad, too.
Posted by: ErikW at June 25, 2012 04:55 PM (EEM3d)
Posted by: mallfly at June 25, 2012 08:18 PM (bJm7W)
So?
Posted by: Philly Black Panthers at June 25, 2012 04:55 PM (AxHOT)
Posted by: Clemenza at June 25, 2012 04:55 PM (qA9lG)
Posted by: crosspatch at June 25, 2012 04:57 PM (ZbLJZ)
Posted by: garrett at June 25, 2012 04:57 PM (X+WXU)
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at June 25, 2012 08:54 PM (vbh31)
You too? Thought it was my computer acting buggy.
Posted by: HH at June 25, 2012 04:58 PM (v+ExF)
Posted by: PaleRider at June 25, 2012 04:58 PM (dkExz)
Posted by: Ombudsman at June 25, 2012 04:59 PM (AxHOT)
Posted by: Clemenza at June 25, 2012 08:55 PM (qA9lG)
Please, please, take the cannolis
Posted by: Ombudsman at June 25, 2012 05:00 PM (AxHOT)
Posted by: Thunderb at June 25, 2012 05:00 PM (Dnbau)
When I go to the comments thingy on this site a new window pops up. It identifies the name of my computer, and asks me submit my user id and password.
Is that supposed to be there Ace? Or has your site been hacked?
Posted by: Jack at June 25, 2012 05:00 PM (wUFaM)
Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at June 25, 2012 05:01 PM (84oau)
Posted by: Thunderb at June 25, 2012 05:02 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Clemenza at June 25, 2012 05:02 PM (qA9lG)
Posted by: Thunderb at June 25, 2012 09:02 PM (Dnbau)
Me too. Where the fuck is Pixy?
Posted by: Ombudsman at June 25, 2012 05:02 PM (AxHOT)
It may be only on your end. Ace works fine from here.
I'd restart in Safe Mode and scan your system.
Posted by: Yogi Berra [/i] [/b] at June 25, 2012 05:03 PM (famk3)
I'm getting the site meter thingy too...what up?
Posted by: Thunderb at June 25, 2012 09:02 PM (Dnbau)
I'm getting that too every time I refresh.
Posted by: ErikW at June 25, 2012 05:04 PM (EEM3d)
Posted by: wytshus at June 25, 2012 05:05 PM (4tcuE)
Posted by: Clemenza at June 25, 2012 05:06 PM (qA9lG)
Aaron Walker' attorney needs to file a motion to trace the call; after all, this looks like an attempt to cause "Death By Cop", i.e., Attempted Murder, ... and maybe Conspiracy to Commit ...
Where will the trace lead? That's part of the point of forcing the trace ... the companies that facilitate forged calls need to be held accountable, and required to cooperate with police when properly served.
My guess is that untangling the call will lead to many people who do not wish to be revealed ... particularly when it looks like being part of a Conspiracy charge will drag them into many other things.
Posted by: Arbalest at June 25, 2012 05:06 PM (tyYO6)
Posted by: Thunderb at June 25, 2012 05:09 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Jean, team dagny at June 25, 2012 05:11 PM (WkuV6)
Posted by: Thunderb at June 25, 2012 05:11 PM (Dnbau)
The site meter pop up has happened to me on a couple of sites.
I have Task Manager on, to see if I can see any unexpected processes.
Thorough virus scan will be done tonight.
Posted by: Arbalest at June 25, 2012 05:13 PM (tyYO6)
Posted by: toby928© at June 25, 2012 05:13 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: ChrisP at June 25, 2012 05:13 PM (626PS)
Posted by: Clemenza at June 25, 2012 05:15 PM (qA9lG)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 25, 2012 05:15 PM (CNPLQ)
Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at June 25, 2012 05:15 PM (84oau)
Use Firefox with the NoScript, it won't pop up on you
Posted by: kbdabear at June 25, 2012 05:18 PM (Y+DPZ)
This sort of violent hate is a creature of the Right Wing originally, though this Kimberlin person sounds like he needs gentle therapy.
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at June 25, 2012 05:18 PM (VZyOx)
Heh, the mental institution in Sucker Punch in located in Brattleboro. 'Splains a lot.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 25, 2012 05:20 PM (Agn5J)
Don't hold your breath. There is a reason lefty clods target people living in blue zones.
If they did this to a blogger in a red state, the police would be all over it.
Posted by: Kristopher at June 25, 2012 05:21 PM (0aV2C)
Posted by: Jack at June 25, 2012 05:21 PM (A+59T)
Can only do so much until Seth "I Stand With Trayvon" Williams puts the kibosh on a search warrant.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 25, 2012 05:23 PM (Agn5J)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, New Caprica Sanitation Department at June 25, 2012 05:23 PM (x8wJs)
Harriett Crosby: A Useful Idiot
http://tinyurl.com/6sapbmo
Posted by: kbdabear at June 25, 2012 05:28 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: MostlyRight at June 25, 2012 05:30 PM (ZG8Ti)
Posted by: Big Zesty at June 25, 2012 05:30 PM (66pgZ)
They may or may not give a shit about Aaron Walker, but they do give a shit about being sent out on a false alarm or being tricked into killing somebody
Posted by: kbdabear at June 25, 2012 05:32 PM (Y+DPZ)
SWATting is just a term. I don't think, in many of these cases, actual SWAT teams respond. But it's likely a whole shift of patrol officers shows up, which isn't really much different. That's just my guess. "Regular" police officers do respond to shootings & gun calls, it's not just a SWAT thing. Many departments don't even have SWAT teams.
Posted by: yinzer at June 25, 2012 05:35 PM (LJ9nk)
You too? Thought it was my computer acting buggy.
Posted by: HH at June 25, 2012 08:58 PM (v+ExF)
me also
Posted by: willow at June 25, 2012 05:39 PM (TomZ9)
137 yinzer at June 25, 2012 09:35 PM (LJ9nk)
SWATting is just a term.
No, SWATtin is when armed lawmen, ready to shoot, to kill if THEY deem it necessary, show up at one's home ...
I don't think, in many of these cases, actual SWAT teams respond.
Small comfort? Usually, the men who show up are armed and have badges ... and these stinking badges give them certain "rights" ...
Posted by: Arbalest at June 25, 2012 05:40 PM (tyYO6)
Posted by: RulesLawyer at June 25, 2012 05:46 PM (DH4Mk)
Posted by: IdowhatIwant at June 25, 2012 05:50 PM (a4CUi)
Posted by: The Political Hat at June 25, 2012 05:52 PM (XYqoq)
What we want here is some of our Congressional representatives to drag themselves out of the bar and represent us. It is about time that the FBI, and the NSA discovered who these people doing the SWATing are.
Posted by: Jack at June 25, 2012 05:55 PM (wUFaM)
Posted by: IdowhatIwant at June 25, 2012 06:03 PM (a4CUi)
Whomever is doing this is probably using Vonage/Skype and going through a proxy server to try and hide their tracks... too bad someone like the FBI or NSA are not working on this, I'm sure that the NSA has the tools to find out who is behind this and the other incidents of SWATting... before it is too late.
Posted by: Mjölnir the banhammer at June 25, 2012 06:13 PM (Jls4P)
A Democrat activist getting greased would certainly generate more FBI focus.
Remember who is running the DOJ...
...Eric Holder.
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at June 25, 2012 06:28 PM (ZyW4A)
Isn't a flase accusation against the law?
I suppose with holder at the helm, we no longer live in a nation of laws.
Posted by: Fresh at June 25, 2012 06:58 PM (O7ksG)
Posted by: Fresh at June 25, 2012 06:59 PM (O7ksG)
My friend who is a cop when I asked him about this said that there is a danger that the calls from this house will not be answered so quickly the next time, with everyone assuming it's another set up. He said this would be horrible if the next time there is a real situation that would require the swat team, stat. He said this probably won't happen cause the police are professionals but that the attitude of "oh it's that address again" is wearing on all involved.
Posted by: food tester at June 25, 2012 08:16 PM (oZfic)
The purpose of SWATting is not to murder (although that would not bother them) it is to prove that they can do this with impunity. Their own Fast and Furious within our own borders, where domestic terrorists are the weapons loosed, domestic terrorism targeted on political enemies of the regime...
As Bill Whittle says, follow the ideology.
Posted by: Fussy at June 25, 2012 08:40 PM (Y/2U4)
As far as a 911 operator deciding that a call is a prank, would you want to be that operator in the event it wasn't a prank? Plus, if there was a real emergency situation not of your making and they called you to ask if you called wouldn't it be logical that is your safety were compromised that the compromiser would force you to say you were fine?
This is a very tough situation. Look at the emergency call from the boaters where the guy calmly made the call. Apparently this cost a small fortune and when you hear the call, you would have set the wheels in motions too, it sounded real. They still haven't found that guy and they are saying this wasn't the first call like that in recent months.
I haven't commented on the specifics of this, just the generalities. Is it possible that someone is using the "kill two birds with one stone theory" as regards this situation?
Posted by: food tester at June 26, 2012 05:41 AM (oZfic)
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