May 18, 2012

ABC News: Cops, Witnesses Back Up George Zimmerman's Version of Events
— Ace

How on earth can the prosecutor maintain a murder 2 charge in the face of obvious reasonable doubt?

And it's at least reasonable doubt. It could be clear and convincing evidence that he's telling the truth.

Two police reports written the night that George Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin said that Zimmerman had a bloody face and nose, according to police reports made public today.

The reports also note that two witness accounts appear to back up Zimmerman's version of what happened when they describe a man on his back with another person wearing a hoodie straddling him and throwing punches.

In addition, Trayvon Martin's father told an investigator after listening to 911 tapes that captured a man's voice frantically callling for help that it was not his son calling for help.

The new information is part of a trove of documents released by the Florida State Attorney today in the case against Zimmerman, who is charged with second degree murder for the Feb. 26 killing of Martin, an unarmed 17-year-old African American male.

Hey, remember ABC's earlier scoop that Zimmerman had no visible injuries?


What no visible injuries look like

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1 first?

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 18, 2012 10:28 AM (1X/a4)

2 ABC News is out in front of the pro-Zimmerman evidence.

Do you think it has anything with trying to minimize their liability for faking the 9-11 tapes on four different occasions?

Posted by: Kasper Hauser at May 18, 2012 10:28 AM (HqpV0)

3 Oh, happy day, I'm no longer a virgin!

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 18, 2012 10:29 AM (1X/a4)

4 Al Sharpton hardest hit.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2012 10:29 AM (sbV1u)

5 HAD TO SHARE- can't link

Google Desmond Hatchett, who is 33 and has fathered 30 kids with 11 different women. Its sick what this country allows.

Posted by: benson at May 18, 2012 10:30 AM (k8v1W)

6 3 Oh, happy day, I'm no longer a virgin!

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 18, 2012 02:29 PM (1X/a4)


I vaguely remember that feeling...faintly...

Posted by: Sandra "Round-Heeled Woman" Fluke at May 18, 2012 10:30 AM (RD7QR)

7 @ Kasper   -  I thought it was NBC that was altering the tapes.

Posted by: fozzy at May 18, 2012 10:30 AM (FEzSe)

8 Also note that ABC refers to him as Hispanic.

Posted by: Jay at May 18, 2012 10:31 AM (3LaGb)

9 Zimmerman's going to be a rich man once he gets done suing NBC and other outlets who faked stuff to defame him.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 18, 2012 10:31 AM (e0xKF)

10 Suckers of Cock.

Posted by: toby928© at May 18, 2012 10:32 AM (NG097)

11 This prosecutor needs to be Nifonged.

Posted by: Hedgehog at May 18, 2012 10:32 AM (wY7D+)

12 Zimmerman's sniper rifle recoiled and hit him in the face.

Posted by: Soledad O'Brien's Earpiece at May 18, 2012 10:32 AM (QKKT0)

13 We are not going to appologize to Pakistan, thank the maker ... even though it is a pure political move and Obama would be belly crawling to them at any other time ... but somebody, some dumb sumbitch, needs to start the appology ball rolling in the press for trying to lynch George  for racial and political gain(even if he was an idiot on that never-to-return night).

Posted by: And Irresolute at May 18, 2012 10:33 AM (RC3M9)

14

 

And.....several witnesses now are saying that Zimmerman was the one screaming...and was the one on the ground being pounded on by a "bigger guy in a hoodie".

Posted by: wheatie at May 18, 2012 10:33 AM (dHMPi)

15 I thought that there was some sort of "ethics" thing that prosecutors weren't supposed to prosecute defendants that they knew were innocent.

Defense attorneys don't have a similar ethic.  Steven Feldman defended David Westerfield knowing damned well that he was not innocent.

Posted by: Jimbo at May 18, 2012 10:33 AM (O3R/2)

16 So how many y'all ever seen them white Hispanics driving all like "dee dee da doo". But them black Hispanics driving, they be all like, "boom chicka boom pow!"

Posted by: MFM Comedy Hour at May 18, 2012 10:33 AM (0n7Dl)

17 Yahoo has a poll up asking if people are now more convinced of Zimmerman's guilt or his innocence. Over 60% say innocence.

Posted by: Lauren at May 18, 2012 10:33 AM (bV8xV)

18 "Oh, happy day, I'm no longer a virgin!

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 18, 2012 02:29 PM (1X/a4)"


Oh.  Did you get married today?



Posted by: Jimbo at May 18, 2012 10:35 AM (O3R/2)

19 The funny thing is, after NBC fired those editors, they are trying to shed liability onto them AS INDIVIDUALS, and ABC will do the same... So Zim. cd in theory sue 3-10 LSM libtards into personal oblivion. AS WELL AS getting a fat settlement from the networks. Heheheheheheheheheh.

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 18, 2012 10:35 AM (1X/a4)

20 So how many y'all ever seen them white Hispanics driving all like "dee dee da doo". But them black Hispanics driving, they be all like, "boom chicka boom pow!"Posted by: MFM Comedy Hour

Bwahaha! It's true we're so lame!!

Posted by: Jomero Simpsón [/i] [/b] at May 18, 2012 10:36 AM (ebPtk)

21 Said it this morning in the headlines thread: The prosecutor needs to spend a year in jail for each day that Zimmerman spent in jail.

Instead, that dumb scrunt will get a job on CNN. Or MSNBC.

Posted by: jimmuy at May 18, 2012 10:36 AM (kSaUf)

22 Another great investigative job by the wonderful, professional, unbiased MSM.

Posted by: RightWingProf at May 18, 2012 10:36 AM (bHgwn)

23 That's funny.  My local paper says the police evidence is very much a 'mixed bag'.

Posted by: Snoop-Diggity-DANG-Dawg at May 18, 2012 10:36 AM (JSetw)

24 Hopefully, the next time Jackson or Sharpton try to mau-mau a company out of some money, they'll get a prompt STFU. It's worth it,  if that come of this.

Posted by: Roy at May 18, 2012 10:36 AM (bm4vI)

25

***looking at cases of "I Am Trayvon" goodies I just invested in***

 

FUCK!

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 18, 2012 10:36 AM (4iAT0)

26 I thought it was NBC that was altering the tapes.

Take your "facts" and shove them.  I'm 1/5th Cherokee!

Posted by: Kasper Hauser at May 18, 2012 10:37 AM (HqpV0)

27 Even better, Jimbo, I busted my cherry on AOSHQ comments--got my first "first!"

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 18, 2012 10:37 AM (1X/a4)

28 ***looking atcases of "I Am Trayvon" goodies I just invested in***FUCK!Posted by: Empire of Jeff

Take them to Harlem, they'll buy anything.

Just ask Reverend Al.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2012 10:38 AM (sbV1u)

29 The reason why the prosecutor did what she did was to push off the race war/riots/whatever - it was plain that if Zimmerman had not been indicted that it was going to boil over. So the PTB sent out a nice African American woman to pray with the family and indict the guy.

Posted by: blaster at May 18, 2012 10:38 AM (7vSU0)

30 Has there been a single piece of evidence released that contradicts Zimmerman initial account on any point? Even one?

Posted by: toby928© at May 18, 2012 10:38 AM (NG097)

31

Hoodies, stupid phone. HOODIES.

 

 

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 18, 2012 10:39 AM (4iAT0)

32 Daddy is acting Friday funny already. Says he had a bad week and needs his "crutches."

Posted by: Malia in DC at May 18, 2012 10:39 AM (c3mby)

33 What?!?!  Those red streaks on the back of Zimmerman's head are tattoos!!! 

Posted by: ABC News at May 18, 2012 10:39 AM (GQ8sn)

34 ABC's recipe... for disaster.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at May 18, 2012 10:40 AM (a3ZUn)

35

The judge needs to throw the book at the prosecutors.

Posted by: AndrewsDad at May 18, 2012 10:40 AM (C2//T)

36 So what's it gonna take for a judge to throw this whole thing out, and do it before, say, October 15?

Posted by: TheLittlShiningMan at May 18, 2012 10:40 AM (PH+2B)

37 Dershowitz and Bernie Goldberg have been on Kelly's show for about 5 minutes now.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 18, 2012 10:40 AM (piMMO)

38 Toby, you gotta lotta nerve talking about stupid things like "evidence." RACIST!!

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 18, 2012 10:40 AM (1X/a4)

39

Hopefully, the next time Jackson or Sharpton try to mau-mau a company out of some money, they'll get a prompt STFU. It's worth it, if that come of this.

 

I wouldn't talk to either one without at least two cameras rolling at all times. If he tried to hustle me, I'd call the prosecutor's office immediately with the evidence.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, feeling all extra curmudgeony today at May 18, 2012 10:40 AM (d0Tfm)

40 JewishOdysseus, Oh!  I just had my "first" on AoSHQ earlier today.  So we both were deflowered on the same day.  Congratulations!

Posted by: Jimbo at May 18, 2012 10:40 AM (O3R/2)

41 George Zimmerman is going to be a very rich white hispanic man.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at May 18, 2012 10:41 AM (jucos)

42 "Hello, Burger Yacht Company?? Uh, could you slow down construction on the Ben's Race-Bait Shack ??? I, uh, I'm not sure what color I'd like the helm seat to be. Yeah, that's it! So just cool it while I see if I get paid, uh, while I think about it. Thanks!"

Posted by: Ben Crump, Crusading Attorney For Truth, Justice, and The African-American Way at May 18, 2012 10:41 AM (VMcoS)

43 Oh, and from the last thread, Mark Furman was on earlier spewing horseshit out of his piehole

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 18, 2012 10:41 AM (piMMO)

44

For  MSNBC  to  have  employed  Olberman  shows  bad  judgement;  but  they  learned.  For  them  to  even  consider  hiring  race  baiter  and  fraud  Al  Sharpton,  who  has  yet  to  apologize  for  the  damage  he  did  with  the  Tawana  Brawley  case,  is  criminal.

Posted by: Jim in Virginia at May 18, 2012 10:41 AM (e3my0)

45 And congratulations to you, too, Jimbo, my fellow bashful bride!

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 18, 2012 10:41 AM (1X/a4)

46 3. TMI

Posted by: Ronster at May 18, 2012 10:42 AM (mHC3R)

47

I thought the explanation was that some sort of civil suit can't be filed unless there was a criminal charge first.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 18, 2012 10:42 AM (XdlcF)

48 I just explained this "first!" in comments thing to my real-life wife, she can't believe whatta moron I am. Exactly!

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 18, 2012 10:42 AM (1X/a4)

49 This whole case has been bullshit from start up to today. Zimmerman should be home with his family instead of sitting through this trial that's a complete farce. Yes, shit sucks when this kid got killed over his aggressive actions but he should have thought of the consequences of that.

Posted by: Kaitian at May 18, 2012 10:43 AM (aYkMj)

50 For MSNBC to have employed Olberman shows bad judgement; but they learned. For them to even consider hiring race baiter and fraud Al Sharpton, who has yet to apologize for the damage he did with the Tawana Brawley case, is criminal. Posted by: Jim in Virginia at May 18, 2012 02:41 PM (e3my0) And I am sure Sharpy Sharpton has not satisfied the civil suits he lost on those cases. How and why is hasn't is beyond me?

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 18, 2012 10:43 AM (eCnLg)

51 The Sanford PD will be getting an apology any minute now.

Posted by: teh Wind at May 18, 2012 10:43 AM (HBU8E)

52 So obamass son is the guilty one , who knew..

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at May 18, 2012 10:44 AM (AWmfW)

53 Dershowitz: If their are race riots, the finger points directly at the special prosecutor.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 18, 2012 10:44 AM (piMMO)

54 Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 18, 2012 02:42 PM (1X/a4) ----------------------------------------------------------- Hahahahaha. My meatspace wife doesn't understand it either. I tell her that this is where I come to be both entertained and informed. She still doesn't get it.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at May 18, 2012 10:44 AM (jucos)

55 The prosecutor needs to spend a year in jail for each day that Zimmerman spent in jail. She won't get that at all. Fortunately Zimmerman is out on bail.

Posted by: Kaitian at May 18, 2012 10:44 AM (aYkMj)

56 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: Steevy at May 18, 2012 10:45 AM (6HIQG)

57 "If I had to hire a lawyer for a son, if I had a son...It wd NOT be Alan Dershowitz!"

Posted by: Barky O'Gabee at May 18, 2012 10:45 AM (1X/a4)

58 so can Zimmerman sue the Florida DA scrunt?

Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at May 18, 2012 10:46 AM (9DE7n)

59 Re the photos in the post, on FNC they showed a photo from the top of his head and there was a baseball size lump extending from the back of Zimmerman's head.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 18, 2012 10:46 AM (piMMO)

60 Instead, that dumb scrunt will get a job on CNN. Or MSNBC.

Home Shopping Network: "The Angela Corey Make-up Gun and Ceiling Texture Applier!"

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at May 18, 2012 10:46 AM (VMcoS)

61 So Tamara Holder was banging Jesse Jackson? Wonder if Hannity will ask about it.

Posted by: blaster at May 18, 2012 10:46 AM (7vSU0)

62 Would the owner of the rickshaw with license plate number 406, please remove it. Your coolie has a hernia.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at May 18, 2012 10:46 AM (a3ZUn)

63 Dershowitz: If their are race riots, the finger points directly at the special prosecutor.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 18, 2012 02:44 PM (piMMO)



Wow....He said that?!

Posted by: Tami at May 18, 2012 10:46 AM (X6akg)

64 Jewish  Odysseus,  Jimbo-  that  was  it?  That's  all?  I'M  NOT  DONE  YET! 

Posted by: Sandra "Messalina" Flook at May 18, 2012 10:46 AM (e3my0)

65 Hahahahaha. My meatspace wife doesn't understand it either. I tell her that this is where I come to be both entertained and informed. She still doesn't get it.

Me three!  My wife looks at me and shakes her head, saying how funny I am for commenting with my 'internet friends'.

Posted by: EC at May 18, 2012 10:46 AM (GQ8sn)

66

If I had a son, he would be a criminal stoner on a slab in the morgue because he thought he was all 'gangsta'.

 

BHOmo

Posted by: model_1066 at May 18, 2012 10:46 AM (YbQJm)

67

Allen Dershowitz just flayed Corey....on Megyn Kelly's show.

 

- Said that she has a history of over-charging, and that is exactly what she's done in this case.

 

- Said that she indicted Zimmerman for no other reason than to diffuse the racial tensions and threat of mob violence.

 

- Said that Zimmerman did not give up his right to a Self Defense plea, by getting out of his car....called that 'ludicrous'.

Posted by: wheatie at May 18, 2012 10:47 AM (dHMPi)

68 Monkey, I won't even ask what "meatspace" means! My wife is a doll, but a little too refined...

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 18, 2012 10:47 AM (1X/a4)

69

With the ever-increasing absurdity of this Murder 2 case, I'm really not going to be surprised if it comes out one day that Rick Scott, the prosecutrix, the police, and GZ and his legal team all agreed to go ahead with this kabuki dance in order to keep the state and nation from burning.  In exchange, GZ gets police protection forever, a house in Idaho, an undisclosed sum of money, and a player to be named later.

 

Hell, it makes just as much sense as everything else I've heard about this case in the media.

Posted by: Jaws at May 18, 2012 10:47 AM (4I3Uo)

70

trayvon...trayvon likes his skittles...

he eats a lot they sayyyy

especially when he's case-ing..

homes to rob.. down florida wayyyyyy

 

 

 

Posted by: errastus meme at May 18, 2012 10:47 AM (lB/5N)

71 It's a Catch-22 situation of their own making. They shot their fucking mouths off and stirred up a righteous anger among the black masses and made it into a latent volcano about to erupt.

If they drop the charges, there will be trouble. If he is found not guilty there where be trouble. If he is found guilty on a lesser charge than what they want, there will be trouble.

The media should burn in hell for their part, especially NBC and its retarded little brother MSNBC. Whoever at NBC did the edits on the 9/11 call should be in prison.

The entire MSNBC host lineup should be put on trial for the disgusting manner they misreported this and played it up for ratings. Everyone from that blithering idiot Scarborough through Madcow has culpability for the violence and mayhem that is bound to happen

Posted by: Albie Damned at May 18, 2012 10:47 AM (Yhu4q)

72 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at May 18, 2012 10:48 AM (8y9MW)

73 Said that she indicted Zimmerman for no other reason than to diffuse the racial tensions and threat of mob violence. Well, duh. Of course. No other reason to do so other than to get a job offer from Eric Holder.

Posted by: blaster at May 18, 2012 10:48 AM (7vSU0)

74 Wow....He said that?!


****

Yes, exactly that.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 18, 2012 10:48 AM (piMMO)

75 The best part about the 7-11 video is how stoned Trayvon is. He can barely stand up. Z was right "He looks like he's on drugs or something"


****

According to Mark Furman, he looks fine.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 18, 2012 10:48 AM (piMMO)

76

Me three! My wife looks at me and shakes her head, saying how funny I am for commenting with my 'internet friends'.

 

Don't be fooled. We are merely clever simulations created by Pixy's  computer hamsters   so  they can eat the spaces in your comments.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, feeling all extra curmudgeony today at May 18, 2012 10:48 AM (d0Tfm)

77 meatspace = real life, where the meat objects exist

Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at May 18, 2012 10:49 AM (9DE7n)

78

I'm gonna go ahead and say it.  But anytime I see a new article with the "Martin family attorney" quoted or him on TV I cringe.

In what world was that man allowed to pass the bar?  He can barely speak English, much less craft a legal argument.  Hell even Jeffrey Toobin kicked his ass on CNN and Toobin wasn't evening interviewing him (he asked one clarification question and the guy got all tongue tied about "Trayvon fighting for his life." Toobin just keep saying "Evidence? There needs to be Evidence."  And I think Toobin was inclined to agree with him.)

It says volumes that they would choose him over a competent attorey doesn't it?

Posted by: tsrblke at May 18, 2012 10:49 AM (22rSN)

79 To be fair, I showed my wife the comments thread the night of the "1st Gay President" story, she got a good laugh out of that one.

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 18, 2012 10:49 AM (1X/a4)

80 NBC knows its stuff on racist rightwing radicals.  You can tell because they submitted recipes to the Aryan Nations' Cookbook.  And nothing in it is even lightly browned.

Posted by: WalrusRex at May 18, 2012 10:49 AM (jUZRg)

81

All this time I'd assumed Angela Corey was some Nancy Grace looking prosecutor but the image that Vic linked to this a.m. depicted an old craggy harridan from hell. If this case does go to trial, what jury's going to believe that old white bitch over a nice calm wellspoken Hispano-hispanic wif negro roots?

 

Angela Corey, Queen of the Dumbasses. Maybe this was her last ditch effort of getting to meet Rosie O'Donnell.

Posted by: kallisto at May 18, 2012 10:49 AM (jm/9g)

82 The one who is the thug , it's my son, just like me.

Posted by: scoamf at May 18, 2012 10:49 AM (AWmfW)

83 so can Zimmerman sue the Florida DA scrunt? Posted by: chemjeff

Highly unlikely. Prosecuting attys, much like LEOs, have a special kind of immunity with a high bar to overcome it.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at May 18, 2012 10:50 AM (ebPtk)

84 The media should burn in hell for their part, especially NBC and its retarded little brother MSNBC. Whoever at NBC did the edits on the 9/11 call should be in prison.


****

Goldberg was less restrained than Dershowitz. He laid into the press and the race-baiters in congress.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 18, 2012 10:50 AM (piMMO)

85 You white people playin yo evidence card make me want to burn down my hood!

TRAYVON!

Posted by: Does This Leg Smell Gammy at May 18, 2012 10:50 AM (vndQB)

86 I wonder if ABC is moving rightward in an attempt to grab some of Fox's market? or are they just kicking NBC in the balls?

Posted by: Jean at May 18, 2012 10:50 AM (WkuV6)

87 To be fair, I showed my wife the comments thread the night of the "1st Gay President" story, she got a good laugh out of that one.

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 18, 2012 02:49 PM (1X/a4)



Oh man, you should've been around for the "True Facts About Dick Cheney" one.

Posted by: EC at May 18, 2012 10:50 AM (GQ8sn)

88 Thanks, ChemJeff, I was worried it had some kind of reference to "sweatermeat"..

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 18, 2012 10:50 AM (1X/a4)

89

86You white people playin yo evidence card make me want to burn down my hood!

TRAYVON!

Please burn down your hood...and everybody in it.  For the children.

Posted by: model_1066 at May 18, 2012 10:51 AM (YbQJm)

90 omg may be some of you idiots shold try to learn about the law system

ok may be the reasonbale doubt about zabransky didnt not do it but

also there is reasnobale doubt that he did do it so any body that knows

about the declareation of independents wold know that he is probally

guilty about some thing that the judge will find out in a trail of his piers

#JusticeForArvitron

Posted by: Jose Canseco's Gristle Encased Head at May 18, 2012 10:51 AM (+lsX1)

91 The reason why the prosecutor did what she did was to push off the race war/riots/whatever - it was plain that if Zimmerman had not been indicted that it was going to boil over.

If that's true, he should sue the State of Florida, too.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at May 18, 2012 10:51 AM (8y9MW)

92 I wonder if ABC is moving rightward in an attempt to grab some of Fox's market? or are they just kicking NBC in the balls?


****

No. They are trying to cover their ass AND try and get the scoop which was, you know, there all along if they'd bother to do their research.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 18, 2012 10:52 AM (piMMO)

93 There's a very circumstantial case that Trayvon was acting out of self-defense. That he saw this guy watching him, following him, saw the gun perhaps, felt threatened and acted to defend himself from the nut in the rain with a gun following him. Still the Murder 2 charge doesn't fit and the circumstantial, speculative nature, practically ensures reasonable doubt. But it's the only argument I can see the prosecutor offering.

Posted by: Crispian at May 18, 2012 10:52 AM (+r6FI)

94

The best part about the 7-11 video is how stoned Trayvon is. He can barely stand up. Z was right "He looks like he's on drugs or something"

 

There's a 7-11 video? ....Where can I see it? ...Anyone know?

Posted by: wheatie at May 18, 2012 10:53 AM (dHMPi)

95 Please burn down your hood...and everybody in it. For the children.


*****


Be patient.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 18, 2012 10:53 AM (piMMO)

96 76 Yeah,Fuhrman was very anti Zimmerman.Cops don't like armed citizens.

Posted by: Steevy at May 18, 2012 10:53 AM (6HIQG)

97 Did chemjeff get a new hash?

Is this the real chemjeff?  Or the libtard sock puppet from earlier today?


Posted by: Jimbo at May 18, 2012 10:53 AM (O3R/2)

98 "How on earth can the prosecutor maintain a murder 2 charge in the face of obvious reasonable doubt?" Take it from a real criminal defense attorney here in FL, it is EASY. "Hey, we'll throw it on the wall in front of a jury, see if it sticks." THAT is the real standard. The only way to avoid the jury trial is if the judge grants a Motion for Immunity at a "stand your ground" hearing. That is a very real possibility in this case. But it will be the judge's call.

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 18, 2012 10:53 AM (1X/a4)

99 Twana Brawley! Duke Lacrosse! Katrina!

Posted by: Idiot Lib at May 18, 2012 10:53 AM (136wp)

100 If I had a son, he'd be a thug high on pot and beating up white Hispanics

Posted by: Barry O at May 18, 2012 10:53 AM (9DE7n)

101 96 Fox showed it from several different angles.It makes it clear how big and intimidating Martin was.

Posted by: Steevy at May 18, 2012 10:54 AM (6HIQG)

102 Justice for Qui-Gon!

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at May 18, 2012 10:54 AM (/kI1Q)

103 Most the media churn on this effects public opinion and maybe the jury pool. A Dershowitz effects another group - judges and bar committees. Angela Corey may be in greater jeopardy then Zimmerman at this point. I wonder if Rick Scott tossed her on this hand grenade for personal reasons or he wanted to nip a budding rival in state politics.

Posted by: Jean at May 18, 2012 10:55 AM (WkuV6)

104 There's a very circumstantial case that Trayvon was acting out of self-defense. That he saw this guy watching him, following him, saw the gun perhaps, felt threatened and acted to defend himself from the nut in the rain with a gun following him. Still the Murder 2 charge doesn't fit and the circumstantial, speculative nature, practically ensures reasonable doubt. But it's the only argument I can see the prosecutor offering.


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He brought tea and skittles to a gun fight when he was only a few doors from his dad's place?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 18, 2012 10:55 AM (piMMO)

105
The entire MSNBC host lineup should be put on trial for the disgusting manner they misreported this and played it up for ratings.

Ratings? What the hell is a "rating"?

Posted by: MSNBC at May 18, 2012 10:55 AM (AWHjB)

106 I wonder if Rick Scott tossed her on this hand grenade for personal reasons or he wanted to nip a budding rival in state politics.


***

I've been trying to figure that one out myself.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 18, 2012 10:55 AM (piMMO)

107

Everyone from that blithering idiot Scarborough through Madcow has culpability for the violence and mayhem that is bound to happen

***

The violence and mayhem could be avoided if a certain POTUS of half Black nature and therefore a LITTLE bit of street cred would call for calm rather than inflame the situation.

 

Just a thought.

Posted by: kallisto at May 18, 2012 10:56 AM (jm/9g)

108 There's a very circumstantial case that Trayvon was acting out of self-defense. That he saw this guy watching him, following him, saw the gun perhaps, felt threatened and acted to defend himself from the nut in the rain with a gun following him. Still the Murder 2 charge doesn't fit and the circumstantial, speculative nature, practically ensures reasonable doubt. But it's the only argument I can see the prosecutor offering.

Posted by: Crispian at May 18, 2012 02:52 PM (+r6FI)


Let me ask you something....if you see some guy following you and suspect he has a gun and you don't....you going to confront him or high tail it to your nearby house?



Posted by: Tami at May 18, 2012 10:56 AM (X6akg)

109

Fox showed it from several different angles.It makes it clear how big and intimidating Martin was.

 

Yeah, but at 6'  2" and 140#, that was probably all fluffy hoodie and baggy pants.

 

He could hide in his  own shadow.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, feeling all extra curmudgeony today at May 18, 2012 10:56 AM (d0Tfm)

110 Can't we all just smoke the peace pipe?  I have a great family recipe for tobacco.

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at May 18, 2012 10:56 AM (/izg2)

111 If  I  had  a son  he'd  be  1/32  Kenyan.

Posted by: Barack who can't do math at May 18, 2012 10:56 AM (e3my0)

112 109 Yep,he threw gasoline on the fire.

Posted by: Steevy at May 18, 2012 10:56 AM (6HIQG)

113 *pops in wearing funny hat...*

What'd y'all order a dead guy for?

*smirk*

Posted by: Jayne at May 18, 2012 10:57 AM (NEj2I)

114 8 Also note that ABC refers to him as Hispanic.

Posted by: Jay at May 18, 2012 02:31 PM (3LaGb)

 

Did they change that from yesterday?  Yesterday, they were referring to him as a "multi-racial" Hispanic - whatever the heck that is.....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at May 18, 2012 10:57 AM (0xqzf)

115

The new information is part of a trove of documents released by the Florida State Attorney today in the case against Zimmerman,

 

Rule number one. Never tick off the judge. Everything else is rule number two. There's a tiny little part of me that feels sorry for the prosecutor because she is facing an epic, epic, epic bench slap for filing what is effectively a false affidavit. Honestly, I would not be surprised if a complaint is filed with the bar over this.

Posted by: alexthechick at May 18, 2012 10:57 AM (VtjlW)

116 I mean, initially, I felt certain that he gave it to her because she is very tough on crime, so if Z was not charged, nobody could claim she went too soft.

Scott couldn't possibly have known she'd go rogue.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 18, 2012 10:57 AM (piMMO)

117 Oh. Did you get married today?

Posted by: Jimbo at May 18, 2012 02:35 PM (O3R/2)

 

 

No, that would be celibacy.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 18, 2012 10:57 AM (DrWcr)

118 I am the real steely,just posting from my cousins IPad.

Posted by: Steevy at May 18, 2012 10:57 AM (6HIQG)

119 Jimbo this is the real chemjeff and the chemjeff from the THC thead was also the real chemjeff it's not libtard to stand for individuals and markets instead of for particular companies.

Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at May 18, 2012 10:57 AM (9DE7n)

120 *Some* cops - mostly Chiefs and infamous retarded has-beens - don't like armed citizens.  Some do.  The rest are busy eating doughnuts and writing bullshit tickets.

Posted by: Jaws at May 18, 2012 10:57 AM (4I3Uo)

121 I really appreciate this blog for the daily posts on the most important issue the U.S. faces.

Posted by: datsnotamore at May 18, 2012 10:57 AM (oMIaK)

122 There's a very circumstantial case that Trayvon was acting out of self-defense. That he saw this guy watching him, following him, saw the gun perhaps, felt threatened and acted to defend himself from the nut in the rain with a gun following him.Posted by: Crispian

If you see someone at a distance with a firearm, do you:

A ) Charge him
B ) Run the fuck away

...this shouldn't be a difficult question.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at May 18, 2012 10:58 AM (ebPtk)

123
The entire MSNBC host lineup should be put on trial for the disgusting manner they misreported this and played it up for ratings. Everyone from that blithering idiot Scarborough through Madcow has culpability for the violence and mayhem that is bound to happen

Posted by: Albie Damned at May 18, 2012 02:47 PM (Yhu4q)


They did not do it for ratings , they did it for Obamas as race baiting.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at May 18, 2012 10:58 AM (AWmfW)

124 Scott couldn't possibly have known she'd go rogue. Don't think she went rogue. It was the plan. Anything to stop the coming riots.

Posted by: blaster at May 18, 2012 10:58 AM (7vSU0)

125 furman is just trying to show how fair he is to the black community......probably going to write a book

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 18, 2012 10:59 AM (Ho2rs)

126 Allen Dershowitz just flayed Corey....on Megyn Kelly's show.

- Said that she indicted Zimmerman for no other reason than to diffuse the racial tensions and threat of mob violence.


This is why it wasn't enough for Nifong to just be disgraced and run out of his job.  He had to be held strictly accountable (which, to a rational person, would have meant that he needed to serve a sentence commensurate with the sum total he tried to expose the falsely accused of - plus a bit for his crime).  This is why I keep saying that it isn't enough to just vote Barky out.  He needs to be held fully accountable for his actions.  He can't just be voted out and allowed to move to Elba to recover.

The Rule of Law cannot be merely defended against attacks - especially from those charged with upholding it.  That allows constant attacks on it that will eventually kill it, if only by attrition.  The Rule of Law must be actively supported and actively preserved, meaning that those who break it (again, especially from those inside) MUST be punished severely so that others aren't tempted by the lack of serious repercussions for their assaults on the foundation of civilized society.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 18, 2012 10:59 AM (X3lox)

127 Steevy,muthafuckin auto correct!

Posted by: Steevy at May 18, 2012 10:59 AM (6HIQG)

128 Come to think of it, my son would have been wearing mom jeans and riding a girl's bike.

Posted by: The President formerly promoted as Kenyan at May 18, 2012 10:59 AM (6Cjut)

129 There's a very circumstantial case that Trayvon was acting out of self-defense.

No there's not.

1) It was dark and raining, the idea that Trayvon saw the gun is just ludicrous.
2) Zimmerman stopped following Martin and stood in roughly the same spot for something like 90 seconds.  More than enough time for Martin to have gotten home.
3) He verbally challenged Zimmerman before he attacked him (this hasn't been "proven" but it is part of Zimmerman's account- which we believe because everything he's said that can be proven has been proven true), not something you do to someone you're afraid is going to attack you- let alone shoot you.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at May 18, 2012 11:00 AM (8y9MW)

130 Let's see:  Little Trayvon could have asked, "Why are you following me?  Is there a problem?  I'm on my way to my dad's girlfriend's house over there."

No beat-down, no shooting.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2012 11:00 AM (UOM48)

131 Let's see: Little Trayvon could have asked, "Why are you following me? Is there a problem? I'm on my way to my dad's girlfriend's house over there."


***

According to trayvon's girlfriend, he did ask why he was following him.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 18, 2012 11:01 AM (piMMO)

132 Looks like all those I Am Trayvon hoodies are about to be sent to Guatemala with the New England Patriots: Super Bowl XLVI Champs hoodies.

Posted by: yinzer at May 18, 2012 11:01 AM (/Mla1)

133 Here's what happened: knucklehead with a gun and a John Wayne complex followed the black kid around a white neighborhood. The black kid told him to STFU, and the knucklehead got out of his car and got the shit kicked out of him. So, the pussy shot the kid. And is permitted to do so under the Florida knucklehead-pussy-shoot-n*gger law. Pretty simple.

Posted by: Andrew Breitbart at May 18, 2012 11:01 AM (/Nc0K)

134 haha yinzer

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 18, 2012 11:01 AM (Ho2rs)

135 Oops.  Forgot to remove my hazmat suit after paying a visit to Salon.  Jim Treacher got a zinger in at the Breitbart/Kenya thread.

Off to shower (seriously).

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2012 11:01 AM (UOM48)

136 Well, the police had these images from the get go and didn't release them.

Posted by: President Chet Roosevelt at May 18, 2012 11:01 AM (Rn3T1)

137 This
will be huge with the college stoner crowd, twenty somethings and even thirty
somethings, it's a huge huge huge huge huge huge huge issue. People go out of their way to make sure they are getting conflict free skittles when casing a neighborhood for a later robbery, they even pay way more for them.


Posted by: Wundurrhurr at May 18, 2012 11:01 AM (q5fYz)

138 clean upl on 135

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 18, 2012 11:02 AM (Ho2rs)

139 Barack can't do math. 

Personally, I think that Barack Hussein Obama is 100% an U.S. citizen.  His mother was Stanley (what the Hell kind of name is that for a woman?) Ann Dunham.

His father was Frank Marshall Davis, the Communist.  He wasn't born in Kenya (unless Stanley Ann was playing a scam on Barack Obama Sr., which is not entirely out of question).  He has been lied to all his life.  He has no fucking idea who he really is.



Posted by: Jimbo at May 18, 2012 11:02 AM (O3R/2)

140 Clean up in aisle 135.

Posted by: Steevy at May 18, 2012 11:02 AM (6HIQG)

141 Justice for Traybong, and shit!

Posted by: Fritz at May 18, 2012 11:02 AM (/ZZCn)

142 If Trayvon had just worn his ghost-dance shirt, the bullet would have bounced off and all this wouldn't have happened! See how important it is to be in touch with your Native-American roots!

Posted by: Elizabeth 'Dances With Perjury' Warren at May 18, 2012 11:02 AM (VMcoS)

143 Looks like all those I Am Trayvon hoodies areabout tobe sent to Guatemala with the New England Patriots: Super Bowl XLVI Champs hoodies.\

****

Speaking of the Pats, are they about to cut off their nose to spite their face? They're pissed because Welker spoke publicly about how poorly contract negotiations have been going.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 18, 2012 11:02 AM (piMMO)

144 "ABC News: Cops, Witnesses Back Up George Zimmerman's Version of Events" Furhman and Baden on Megan Kelly's show say it was Zimmerman's fault. Mind you, Kelly has been gunning for Zimmerman since the start.

Posted by: davod at May 18, 2012 11:03 AM (C5U9L)

145 Not even 1/32nd of his head was bleeding. I'd hardly call that 'injured'.

Posted by: Consulting Prosecutor "Liawatha" Warren at May 18, 2012 11:03 AM (FcR7P)

146 And erg's got nothing.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at May 18, 2012 11:03 AM (VMcoS)

147 Trayvon could have flipped the table on Zimmerman by pulling out his phone and calling 911 right in from of Zimmerman. Zimmerman would have been sputtering like Ralph Cramden.

Posted by: boniface ballers at May 18, 2012 11:03 AM (bPbwB)

148 fuck off /Nc0k

Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at May 18, 2012 11:03 AM (9DE7n)

149 >>>will be huge with the college stoner crowd, twenty somethings and even thirty somethings Will they be carrying clipboards? Cuz that's always a good sign that They Care.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at May 18, 2012 11:04 AM (a3ZUn)

150 Furhman and Baden on Megan Kelly's show say it was Zimmerman's fault. Mind you, Kelly has been gunning for Zimmerman since the start.


****

It took all I could do not to smash the t.v. To be fair, however, she did have Goldberg and Dershowitz on later.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 18, 2012 11:05 AM (piMMO)

151 around a white neighborhood.>>

That white neighborhood that White Hispanic Zimmerman and Travon's family lived in?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at May 18, 2012 11:05 AM (tf9Ne)

152 Justice for Tranya! /gulp

Posted by: Dr. Varno at May 18, 2012 11:05 AM (a3ZUn)

153 or Trayvon could have avoided confrontation altogether something tells me trayvon knew Zimmerman was on to his criminal ways and tried to shut him up permanently

Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at May 18, 2012 11:06 AM (9DE7n)

154 And ergie has jackshit.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at May 18, 2012 11:06 AM (RD7QR)

155 erg's performing worse than Facebook IPO.

Posted by: nickless at May 18, 2012 11:06 AM (MMC8r)

156 That white neighborhood that White Hispanic Zimmerman and Travon's family lived in?


***

It is a very diverse neighborhood.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 18, 2012 11:06 AM (piMMO)

157 Nice, upstanding white power comments throughout. Good job, ace. You need to rename this pile of shit "Aryan Clusterfuck for Republican Hegemony" w/ a picture of Lester Maddox, and a few rotating aphoristic quotes from David Duke.

Posted by: Andrew Breitbart at May 18, 2012 11:06 AM (/Nc0K)

158 152 Megan too?She seemed like she was doing the "fair and balanced" thing.

Posted by: Steevy at May 18, 2012 11:06 AM (6HIQG)

159 clean upl on 135

I'm torn on that.  Part of me wants to leave it up so we can mock it. 

But you're probably right.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at May 18, 2012 11:07 AM (8y9MW)

160 Nope, still has nothing.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at May 18, 2012 11:07 AM (RD7QR)

161 Is Taco Bell "White Hispanic"?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at May 18, 2012 11:07 AM (a3ZUn)

162 I think erg's writing affidavits for Corey's office.

Posted by: nickless at May 18, 2012 11:07 AM (MMC8r)

163 Looks like we got some shit on our comments. Someone wipe it off.

Posted by: blaster at May 18, 2012 11:07 AM (7vSU0)

164

Oh MY...enough of this heavy lifting. Its a beautiful spring FRIDAY afternoon

Time For some R&R&Fap

SWSFW

***

Nuestra Belleza Latina 2012 

http://tinyurl.com/74gz4kh

***

You welcome.

 


 

Posted by: dananjcon at May 18, 2012 11:07 AM (eavT+)

165 161 back to the glory hole bitch!

Posted by: Steevy at May 18, 2012 11:07 AM (6HIQG)

166 "Zimmerman's going to be a rich man once he gets done suing NBC and other outlets who faked stuff to defame him." I hope there is some way they can go after the parents lawyers. These lawyers set the scene with lies and innuendo. Disbarment at a minimum followed by a long jail term in a South American prison.

Posted by: davod at May 18, 2012 11:08 AM (C5U9L)

167 152 Megan too?She seemed like she was doing the "fair and balanced" thing.


****

She's been weird about this from the start and from day one bought into the poor unarmed teenager angle. She's only now beginning to see the light but she's not liking it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 18, 2012 11:08 AM (piMMO)

168 Pretty entertaining new anti-Obama ad. Operation Hot Mic

http://tinyurl.com/7ngfbgz

Posted by: Albie Damned at May 18, 2012 11:08 AM (Yhu4q)

169 Is Taco Bell "White Hispanic"?



****


Oooooh. Taco Bell.

BRB

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 18, 2012 11:09 AM (piMMO)

170 erg, does it bother you that you're as ineffective in the rest of your life as you are online?

Posted by: nickless at May 18, 2012 11:09 AM (MMC8r)

171 173 to be fair,I bought the media narrative at first myself.

Posted by: Steevy at May 18, 2012 11:09 AM (6HIQG)

172 Is Taco Bell "White Hispanic"?>>

Yes and Whiter Hispanic is Taco John's

Posted by: Buzzsaw at May 18, 2012 11:10 AM (tf9Ne)

173

The media should burn in hell for their part, especially NBC and its retarded little brother MSNBC. Whoever at NBC did the edits on the 9/11 call should be in prison.

The entire MSNBC host lineup should be put on trial for the disgusting manner they misreported this and played it up for ratings. Everyone from that blithering idiot Scarborough through Madcow has culpability for the violence and mayhem that is bound to happen

****

 

Let's not forget Robyn Meade and Nancy Grace.  And, oh, so many others.

Posted by: WalrusRex at May 18, 2012 11:10 AM (jUZRg)

174 FB IPO at +.5 and falling

Posted by: nickless at May 18, 2012 11:10 AM (MMC8r)

175 Jeez erg, can you at least try to be entertaining?

Also, tell me how it's racist to defend a man of mixed African American and Mexican decent from the libelous accusations of a predominately white media.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at May 18, 2012 11:10 AM (8y9MW)

176 hey ergie it's your turn in the barrel

Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at May 18, 2012 11:10 AM (9DE7n)

177 Yeah, but at 6' 2" and 140#, that was probably all fluffy hoodie and baggy pants. 160lbs. 10 less that Zimmerman. And erg's got nuthin' but racist whine and sweet sweet tears.

Posted by: toby928© at May 18, 2012 11:10 AM (NG097)

178 176 erg, does it bother you that you're as ineffective in the rest of your life as you are online?

Posted by: nickless at May 18, 2012 03:09 PM (MMC8r)


To be fair, he did once have nonsexual relations with a trucker, so he's not a total failure.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at May 18, 2012 11:10 AM (RD7QR)

179 I don't know nickless. Does it bother you that you want to fuck your daughter?

Posted by: Andrew Breitbart at May 18, 2012 11:11 AM (/Nc0K)

180 Everybody knows Zimmerman shot him for his gold grill.  He needed the money.

Posted by: Fritz at May 18, 2012 11:11 AM (/ZZCn)

181

Posted by: Andrew Breitbart at May 18, 2012 03:01 PM (/Nc0K)

 

 

 

 

LOL.  That poster is either pranking us badly, or doing a great job of revealing the typical underclass mentality.  I assume the latter.  Posts like this reinforce one's belief the goodness - the rightness - of concealed carry laws, stand-your-ground laws, and every other law that arms the upright man and allows him to defend against the sub-human, ghetto-spawned scum that are crawling all over this nation in ever increasing numbers.

 

 

While their type will normally injure and kill each other over petty slights, money, and access to loose women - as soon as a law abiding person resists one of them successfully they circle the wagons, providing mutual (rhetorical) support from one bit of scum to another.  They howl their outrage over their supposed victimhood, then walk away to plot the true victimization of others.  They're detritus, and every time another Trayvon is removed from the gene pool, the nation becomes a better place.

Posted by: Reactionary at May 18, 2012 11:11 AM (xUM1Q)

182 Sorry chemjeff.  Perhaps I misunderstood you.  You said that you didn't care about the insurance companies.  I care about their ability to provide a product without the govt. interfering in their ability to compete.  If actuaries are to be ignored, the companies cannot survive.  The math is not partisan.  If you were sarcastic in some remarks, that was stupid of you.  We cannot see the smile on your face.

If I misunderstood you, please forgive me.  As I recall, the morning thread was so hot that I could not read everything that everyone was posting.

btw moron hoard, that was GREAT.


Posted by: Jimbo at May 18, 2012 11:11 AM (O3R/2)

183 Nuestra Belleza Latina 2012 http://tinyurl.com/74gz4kh *** You welcome. Pointy ass elbows.

Posted by: blaster at May 18, 2012 11:12 AM (7vSU0)

184 Hah. No daughters. Another fail.

Posted by: nickless at May 18, 2012 11:12 AM (MMC8r)

185 You people are all racist, we told you he's a multi-racial hispanic which means he could be at least 1/32 white which means he needs to be put to death for social justice.

Posted by: The MFM at May 18, 2012 11:12 AM (HI6wa)

186 Skittles-arink a dinka dink. Skittles-arink a doo. I beat you! Skittles-arink a dinka dink. Skittles-arink a doo. I'll break your nose, too! I'll pummel you in the morning. And in the afternoon. I'll pummel you in the evening. I'm high on THT, too!. Oh, Skittles-arink a dinka dink. Skittles-arink a doo. I'll f*&^k you!

Posted by: The President formerly promoted as Kenyan at May 18, 2012 11:12 AM (6Cjut)

187 Funny how liberals are still lining the facts up of this story in ways that are completely removed from reality, yet they always claim "reality has a liberal bias". Well maybe it does when you can't see f*cking reality.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at May 18, 2012 11:12 AM (AWHjB)

188 Wonder why erg isn't in Chicago takin' it to the streets. The whole world's watching, erg! Give the telecom solutions a rest and save the world, man!

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at May 18, 2012 11:12 AM (VMcoS)

189

I'm not a lawyer, but everyone coming up with the circumstantial argument that Trayvon was acting in self defense is doing it wrong.

That argument works if you're trying to get Trayvon off an assult charge (since it could be argued it provides reasonable doubt.)  Said argument doesn't convict anyone.  Even if you use it to tie into motive it doesn't help you.  There's plenty of reasonable doubt in this case to let Zimmerman off, so what does it matter what possible motives Trayvon had in an actual court. (In the court of "public opinion and race baiting" I imagine it matters tons.  Good thing we don't try shit there.

Posted by: tsrblke at May 18, 2012 11:12 AM (22rSN)

190

The troll does pretty much articulate the leftard-MSM-bizarro world-view of this case.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at May 18, 2012 11:12 AM (YmPwQ)

191

.....This is why I keep saying that it isn't enough to just vote Barky out. He needs to be held fully accountable for his actions. He can't just be voted out and allowed to move to Elba to recover.

 

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 18, 2012 02:59 PM (X3lox)

 

Yep. I agree. .....But the racial tensions that Barky and his team keep whipping up, will also serve to shelter him from any prosecutions for his crimes against our Constitution.

 

Who in Congress has the courage to go after him? ....They already know it's the right thing to do. ....But even if he gets voted out, and Holder is gone, replaced by a conservative....what are the chances that they will prosecute Barky for anything? ....I would say 'slim to none'. 

Posted by: wheatie at May 18, 2012 11:13 AM (dHMPi)

192 Hey /ncok... did you request that hash special? I bet you've slashed a lot of cok in your time, you little devil.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at May 18, 2012 11:14 AM (AWHjB)

193 >>The troll does pretty much articulate the leftard-MSM-bizarro world-view of this case.

Eerie, isn't it?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at May 18, 2012 11:15 AM (/kI1Q)

194 And 135 prove why even the Lord Jesus Christ Himself could part the Heavens and declare Zimmerman innocent and there would still be riots in certain communities.

Because it ain't about justice, it's about Just'Us.
Special laws for Just'Us.
And Whitey gonna pay.

Tiring. And sad.

Posted by: jimmuy at May 18, 2012 11:15 AM (kSaUf)

195 LOL. That poster iseither pranking us badly, or doing a great job of revealing the typicalunderclass mentality.Posted by: Reactionary

He's a known troll. don't feed him.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at May 18, 2012 11:15 AM (ebPtk)

196 Ace going off on Twitter.

Posted by: Steevy at May 18, 2012 11:15 AM (6HIQG)

197 911's a joke in yo town.

Posted by: Flava Flav at May 18, 2012 11:16 AM (YmPwQ)

198 >>The troll does pretty much articulate the leftard-MSM-bizarro world-view of this case. Mr. Olbermann, is that you?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at May 18, 2012 11:16 AM (a3ZUn)

199 Oh, erg, why not throw in a little 'then Zimmerman ate Trayvon's skittles while he watched him die' for a Cameron-esque final touch?

Posted by: nickless at May 18, 2012 11:16 AM (MMC8r)

200 He's a known troll. don't feed him.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 18, 2012 03:15 PM (ebPtk)

 

 

 

Ahh - thanks. 

Posted by: Reactionary at May 18, 2012 11:16 AM (xUM1Q)

201 Posted by: Andrew Breitbart at May 18, 2012 03:01 PM (/Nc0K)

Oh look, erg is vomiting out his racist fantasies again, why do you enjoy saying the "n" word so much erg? Why are you so full of racist hate?

Posted by: The MFM at May 18, 2012 11:16 AM (HI6wa)

202

There has been not one single semi-reasonable person either involved with or commenting on this case who has stated that GZ had his pistol drawn either before or right when he was struck and subsequently beaten.  In fact, GZ carried his tiny little PF9 in a belt holster - concealed.  TM didn't know GZ had a gun until GZ managed to get it out of his holster while under attack.

 

All this  reactionary  thinking that GZ was some hopped-up racist John Wayne brandishing a palm-sized gun and stalking poor 'lil Trayvon is sheer fantasy.  They all seem to think that the mere act of wearing a gun on your person is an aggressive, racist statement.

Posted by: Jaws at May 18, 2012 11:17 AM (4I3Uo)

203 I thought that there was some sort of "ethics" thing that prosecutors weren't supposed to prosecute defendants that they knew were innocent.

That quaint practice is from the pre-Obama/Holder era. 

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at May 18, 2012 11:17 AM (XVM8h)

204 Another fail. Situation normal. I long for the days when erg would try to pretend he was a red. His embarrassment on these pages was epic.

Posted by: toby928© at May 18, 2012 11:17 AM (NG097)

205 Jimbo: I am fine with insurance companies but I will not lose any sleep whatsoever on how some change affects their bottom line. I stand for free markets not for BCBS.

Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at May 18, 2012 11:17 AM (9DE7n)

206 Posted by: wheatie at May 18, 2012 03:13 PM (dHMPi)

"Slim to none" is certainly correct, if not even overly optimistic. 

It's a shame.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 18, 2012 11:17 AM (X3lox)

207 it took andrew to get right to the heart of the matter...

Posted by: errastus meme at May 18, 2012 11:18 AM (lB/5N)

208 Oh look, erg is vomiting out his racist fantasies again, why do you enjoy saying the "n" word so much erg? Why are you so full of racist hate?Posted by: The MFM

Because among the collection of pathologies that proggys proudly sport is PROJECTION!

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at May 18, 2012 11:19 AM (ebPtk)

209 >>"economic liberty of global nanoresources"

Pretty sure that's racist.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at May 18, 2012 11:19 AM (/kI1Q)

210

Highly unlikely. Prosecuting attys, much like LEOs, have a special kind of immunity with a high bar to overcome it.

 

She's going to get Nifong'd over this, as well she and the DA's office should be.  Seriously, I don't even want to ponder how pissed off a judge is going to be that this is dumped in his/her lap to deal with. 

Posted by: alexthechick at May 18, 2012 11:19 AM (VtjlW)

211

141 Jimbo:

Father abandons him. Mother moves him to Indonesia with stepfather. He's the part black American kid with the white mom.That must have been a hoot.  Mom takes him back to Hawaii, leaves him with grandparents, abandons him. Grandparents try their best to give him every advantage, (e.g. Punahou) 'cause he seems like a smart kid. Hawaii is most racially mixed, least prejudiced place in US (except when the native Hawaiians take after the white kids. Was Barack harassed like that?) 

He goes to the mainland, and you're right, he has no idea who the fuck he is. So it's easy to reinvent himself, several times. 

Tragic, if he weren't the leader of the Free World. 

Oh, by the way, did you know that guys named Jim on average have IQ's 20 points higher than the general population? 

Posted by: Jim in Virginia at May 18, 2012 11:19 AM (e3my0)

212 Posted by: Andrew Breitbart at May 18, 2012 03:11 PM (/Nc0K)

I feel so sorry for you.

Posted by: Wundurrhurr at May 18, 2012 11:20 AM (q5fYz)

213 217 I wonder if the Gov and AG are really pissed.

Posted by: Steevy at May 18, 2012 11:20 AM (6HIQG)

214

Jimbo: I am fine with insurance companies but I will not lose any sleep whatsoever on how some change affects their bottom line.

I stand for free markets not for BCBS.

 

Er..if the "change" affecting the bottom line is coming from the government, how its that a free market?

 

Posted by: Flava Flav at May 18, 2012 11:20 AM (YmPwQ)

215 Hoodies? Talkin' bout Hoodies? Man, caint belive we talkin' bout Hoodies!

Posted by: allen iverson's blunt at May 18, 2012 11:21 AM (KcINh)

216 I guess erg thinks Dershowitz is a kkklansman, too.

Posted by: nickless at May 18, 2012 11:21 AM (MMC8r)

217 erg it's time for my fluffing session, get over here!

Posted by: David Axelturf at May 18, 2012 11:22 AM (9DE7n)

218 I don't even want to ponder how pissed off a judge is going to be that this is dumped in his/her lap to deal with.

Meh.  The defense moves to dismiss based on lack of evidence, and the judge grants it. Next case.

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at May 18, 2012 11:23 AM (XVM8h)

219 "No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment of indictment of a Grand Jury" Fifth Amendment, U.S. Constitution. Maybe the rich old white men who wrote the 5th Amendment knew what they were talking about? Just asking.

Posted by: Bow Tying White Boy at May 18, 2012 11:24 AM (BSuxu)

220

160lbs. 10 less that Zimmerman

 

I stand corrected.

 

Actually, I sit, pantsless, corrected.  For accuracy's sake.

 

Still, that's not  very much to weigh for that height. And for the record, I'm not overweight, I'm undertall.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, feeling all extra curmudgeony today at May 18, 2012 11:25 AM (d0Tfm)

221 Somebody should write something linking fake Indian Warren, fake Kenyan Obama, and fake white Zimmerman to point out the fraud that is identity politics.

Posted by: thunderb at May 18, 2012 11:26 AM (Dnbau)

222 221 the point is, if a change is bad argue about how it is a bad idea, not on how it will negatively affect BCBS

Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at May 18, 2012 11:26 AM (9DE7n)

223 heh,

FB stock returned to the offering price earlier today only to be saved by the broker/dealers.

Oops, going back again.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at May 18, 2012 11:26 AM (ebPtk)

224

She's going to get Nifong'd over this, as well she and the DA's office should be.

**

 

After she gets disbarred she can always come up to South Philly. There's got to be some block in the 'hood that's missing its resident chain-smoking crazy lady/mayor.

Posted by: kallisto at May 18, 2012 11:27 AM (jm/9g)

225 Obama and Warren aren't fake, they alternatively genuine.

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at May 18, 2012 11:27 AM (XVM8h)

226

Will they be carrying clipboards? Cuz that's always a good sign that They Care.

 

I once took part in one of the Ban Dihydrogen Monoxide petition signature hoaxes. The key is to have a clipboard and look very very concerned, bonus points for full out head tilt. What was funnier is that nearly all of the people who knew what is was started helping us get signatures.

 

Who was is that did the "Is Obama a Keynesian" interviews? Those were hilarious.

Posted by: alexthechick at May 18, 2012 11:27 AM (VtjlW)

227 Posted by: Andrew Breitbart at May 18, 2012 03:01 PM (/Nc0K)

OI!![\b]  Y'alls hashtag generator is on the fritz...

This un shoulda been LoOvescOk...

Fix yer shit...

Posted by: Portnoy at May 18, 2012 11:27 AM (rihDG)

228 >>Grandparentstry theirbest to give him everyadvantage, (e.g. Punahou) 'cause he seems like a smart kid.


Wellllll...Gramma Toots tried.  Grampy Stanley turned over the father figure role to a black Communist who may have sexually abused Barry (and earlier, Mommy Stanley).

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at May 18, 2012 11:27 AM (/kI1Q)

229 Posted by: nickless at May 18, 2012 03:21 PM (MMC8r)

KKKlansman? No, but a Lannsman? Yes!

What? You don't know Yiddish?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 18, 2012 11:28 AM (nEUpB)

230 FB stock returned to the offering price earlier today only to be saved by the broker/dealers. Chuckie Schumer hardest hit.

Posted by: nickless at May 18, 2012 11:28 AM (MMC8r)

231

You need to rename this pile of shit "Aryan Clusterfuck for Republican Hegemony" w/ a picture of Lester Maddox, and a few rotating aphoristic quotes from David Duke.

Quiz for the troll:

What was Lester Maddox's party?

Posted by: fluffy at May 18, 2012 11:28 AM (3SvjA)

232 Gah!![/]

Posted by: Portnoy at May 18, 2012 11:28 AM (rihDG)

233 "No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment of indictment of a Grand Jury" Fifth Amendment, U.S. Constitution.

Maybe the rich old white men who wrote the 5th Amendment knew what they were talking about? Just asking.


For reasons that must make sense to somebody, that provision of the 5th amendment is held not to apply to the states, but only to federal prosecutions.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 18, 2012 11:28 AM (SY2Kh)

234 Shit

Posted by: Portnoy at May 18, 2012 11:29 AM (rihDG)

235 only to be saved by the broker/dealers.

They were probably hoping for a couple/three rounds of pump and dump before heading to the exits.

The emperor's new cloths are simply fabulous aren't they?

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at May 18, 2012 11:29 AM (XVM8h)

236 Awww, I missed a chance to taunt the local racist troll who    still has Andrew Breitbart living rent free in his head 24/7/365?   Dammit!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter [/i][/b] at May 18, 2012 11:31 AM (4df7R)

237 Why didn't you come to me like a fucking man and tell me there was a new thread?

Posted by: toby928© at May 18, 2012 11:32 AM (NG097)

238 I notice Zimmerman is now a "multi-racial Hispanic" in contrast with earlier reports in which he was identified as a white hispanic.

Posted by: MalcolmTent at May 18, 2012 11:32 AM (aP+gV)

239 clean up on aisle 135...

Posted by: Mikey NTH - looking forward to the weekend at May 18, 2012 11:34 AM (hLRSq)

240 221 the point is, if a change is bad argue about how it is a bad idea, not on how it will negatively affect BCBS There you go again. Lying about what you wrote. Fucking troll.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at May 18, 2012 11:35 AM (p7SSh)

241 61 So Tamara Holder was banging Jesse Jackson? Wonder if Hannity will ask about it. Posted by: blaster at May 18, 2012 02:46 PM (7vSU0) I am thinking that is why she can't find a boyfriend...

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at May 18, 2012 11:36 AM (oipCQ)

242 61 So Tamara Holder was banging Jesse Jackson? Wonder if Hannity will ask about it.

Posted by: blaster at May 18, 2012 02:46 PM (7vSU0)


I think Hannity once called Al Sharpton "my friend" on his show.  I don't know if he told Al that he was "a great American" or not.

Posted by: kathysaysso at May 18, 2012 11:37 AM (ZtwUX)

243

What handle does Ace use on Twatter?? 

Posted by: dananjcon at May 18, 2012 11:39 AM (eavT+)

244 dananjcon....

Posted by: Tami at May 18, 2012 11:45 AM (X6akg)

245 What handle does Ace use on Twatter??

Right now it's "Julia The Obama Tot".

Posted by: EC at May 18, 2012 11:45 AM (GQ8sn)

246 Is this the IDF chick thread?

Posted by: Honey Badger at May 18, 2012 11:47 AM (GvYeG)

247 What handle does Ace use on Twatter??
@H8ters kill AAs but you can't read the real truth at mine: @suckin /NcoK4nickels

Posted by: suckin /NcoK at May 18, 2012 11:57 AM (FTuxU)

248 You stromfronters edited that to read "can't read" instead of "can read" didn't you?!!11!! Get outta my pants head!!!11!!

Posted by: suckin /NcoK at May 18, 2012 11:58 AM (FTuxU)

249 According to trayvon's girlfriend, he did ask why he was following him.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 18, 2012 03:01 PM

That "girlfriend" seems to have some credibility issues herself. She refused to meet with investigators and didn't speak with anyone until the feds got involved. Her Twitter account also indicates (if it's really hers) that she didn't even know Trayvon got shot until the following day

Posted by: kbdabear at May 18, 2012 12:54 PM (Y+DPZ)

250 Early this morning, ABC's overnight/early morning "news" anchors were covering this -- the same anchors I saw last month talk about how Z had no injuries and how Z had much to answer for -- say that these new revelations leave "so many questions"... uh, no, these are the ANSWERS, you asses! Their on-location reporter began by saying that these revelations helped the defense and then quickly shifted to say that Z had much to answer for. Oh, and the report began by saying that these revelations paint a clearer picture of what happened. So they not only contradicted themselves, but also they don't want answers or a clear picture! They really think we're stupid.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at May 18, 2012 01:52 PM (KL49F)

251 I wish erg would die in a fire.  A big fire.  Now.

Posted by: Quint&Jessel, Sea of Azof, Bly, UK at May 18, 2012 01:54 PM (SmOV4)

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