December 30, 2012
— Open Blogger US govt source 1
US govt source 2
US govt source 3
Nutshell:
- 70,000+ NICS (instant check) rejections/yr
- 4,000+/yr deemed a violation of law and referred for prosecution
- Under 200/yr actually prosecuted
Prosecutions have DECLINED under Obama too.
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Posted by: The dude at December 30, 2012 04:14 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: JeanQueenie at December 30, 2012 04:15 PM (Gmp2Z)
"The laws don't work! We need more laws!"
"Um, the laws aren't being enforced. That's why they don't work."
"Exactly! That's why we need more laws!"
Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 30, 2012 04:15 PM (o1kXv)
Posted by: CalyxtheCommoner at December 30, 2012 04:16 PM (DXkRD)
Enforcing existing laws = statistics nobody ever reads about
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 30, 2012 04:18 PM (HDgX3)
Cold. Dead. Fingers.
Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 04:19 PM (V70Uh)
Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at December 30, 2012 04:19 PM (79AXR)
Posted by: BignJames at December 30, 2012 04:19 PM (HtUkt)
Posted by: Pecan Scandi furniture Magnate at December 30, 2012 04:19 PM (O4hDA)
My former liberal daughter says, "It sounds like they are trying to kill her."
Posted by: Miss Marple at December 30, 2012 04:20 PM (GoIUi)
Against their friends yes. Enemies get double enforcement. Or maybe it's just whimsical enforcement.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 30, 2012 04:22 PM (Y6HTt)
Posted by: Pecan Scandi Sten Gunnar at December 30, 2012 04:22 PM (O4hDA)
Hillary didn't have a concussion. She had a stroke.
Wouldn't surprise me. Of course, this group of assmonkeys couldn't properly handle that but instead had to try and lie to everyone about it.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 30, 2012 04:22 PM (o1kXv)
Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 04:23 PM (V70Uh)
Posted by: rukiddingme? at December 30, 2012 04:24 PM (MbeEN)
There are tactical advantages to living at the end of the road where you command the high ground. BTW, fuck Bob Costas.
Posted by: Pecan Scandi Sten Gunnar at December 30, 2012 04:25 PM (O4hDA)
Not to play devil's advocate (even though I owe him a few favors), but I recall reading over the years that mean people who are turned down are later approved due to having the same name as someone with a felony conviction, etc.
just the same, I doubt the Barky Administration is that eager to enforce laws that might punish, you know, actual bad people.
Oh, Joe Biden just dropped by. Here's a tip: microwave the library paste for 15 seconds to get that creamy consistancy that makes people who lied about begin in the top half of their law school class giggle with delight.
Posted by: mallfly at December 30, 2012 04:26 PM (jDjlM)
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 30, 2012 04:28 PM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: chaz at December 30, 2012 04:28 PM (sSNkG)
That's the 70,000+ group. NOT the 4,000+ that were genuine and referred for prosecution.
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 30, 2012 04:28 PM (hc3eM)
Posted by: Derak at December 30, 2012 04:28 PM (lkjWK)
Just wait until the "Free Shit Army" starts getting cut off from their free shit...
Posted by: Mjölnir, the banhammer from the gates of Hell at December 30, 2012 04:28 PM (Jls4P)
Posted by: Pecan Scandi, Low and be Holding at December 30, 2012 04:30 PM (O4hDA)
"That implies an initial false positive rate of roughly 94.2 percent."
from an article by John Lott.
http://tinyurl.com/bjakkb8
Posted by: mallfly at December 30, 2012 04:30 PM (jDjlM)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 30, 2012 04:31 PM (IvVLN)
Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 04:31 PM (V70Uh)
Yeah, we both made, ahem, purchases, because money talks.....alot louder than words.
Posted by: JeanQueenie at December 30, 2012 04:31 PM (Gmp2Z)
Posted by: Chas at December 30, 2012 04:33 PM (9AxVP)
Posted by: Chas at December 30, 2012 04:33 PM (9AxVP)
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 30, 2012 04:34 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 30, 2012 04:34 PM (hc3eM)
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 30, 2012 04:35 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 30, 2012 04:37 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: mallfly at December 30, 2012 04:37 PM (jDjlM)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 30, 2012 04:38 PM (ZPrif)
William Casey had a sudden inoperable fatal brain tumor when he was DCI. Happened about a week before he was due to testify on Iran/Contra.
These things always seem to coincide with being scheduled to testify.
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 30, 2012 04:39 PM (hc3eM)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at December 30, 2012 04:39 PM (qkP36)
The Tanner Gun Show drew thousands of people this weekend. As I left, I saw 4 protesters at the stoplight nearby (ban assault weapons, no more dead children, yada yada yada)
Posted by: Jones in CO at December 30, 2012 04:40 PM (8sCoq)
1) Prosecutors should _not_ be able to drop the firearms portion of the charges when working out plea-bargains with criminals. The firearm offense must ALWAYS be prosecuted.
2) Using a firearm in commission of a crime should count as one strike on its own--that is, if you rob a bank using a gun, the bank robbery is one strike and the fact that you used a gun is a second strike.
The third is something that the tyrant voted against when he was in the state senate in Illinois: membership in a gang should be an aggravating factor in getting the death penalty (useless in Illinois now, as they've abolished the death penalty, but would work on states not bent on heir own annihilation)--if you're a member of an organization that exists only to commit crime, you ought to be more eligible for the death penalty than some schmo off the street.
Treat gun crime and gun criminals as though they were serious problems, and lay off of law-abiding gun owners. These two rules would also have the benefit of making David Gregory a felon with one strike on him, which would be awesome...
Posted by: Palandine at December 30, 2012 04:40 PM (g7D8V)
Posted by: Pentangle at December 30, 2012 04:40 PM (Yu4ih)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 30, 2012 04:42 PM (IvVLN)
wait, they just decided today that she had a stroke? That's like Hillary taking ten days to figure out that that wasn't a mayonaisse stain on the housekeeper's shoes.
must have been medical sloppiness:
"Based on some of our internal reviews, there was just some sloppiness." --Barack Obama
lawsuit to follow..?
Posted by: mallfly at December 30, 2012 04:42 PM (jDjlM)
When noted gun experts on this very, who get an actual cut of all sales, are already ticking off on their fingers what major rights we'll be willing to give up in the grand compromise, I'm not willing to blame the members of Congress for our problem.
Posted by: comatus at December 30, 2012 04:43 PM (qaVK+)
Posted by: Obamao at December 30, 2012 04:44 PM (JtyGg)
"Kill Team Six checking in, you got any dot gov's you need dead?"
"Negative, Kill Team Six. The situation is under control. You might even have a vacation coming up. It be that good."
"We that effecative, Six?"
"Seriously, KT Six, you ain't got shit left to do. Looks like the civilians have sterilized the area for you."
"Well, Sierra Hotel for the civilians, returning to base. KT Six out . . . some days you just get lucky."
Posted by: Chas at December 30, 2012 04:44 PM (9AxVP)
I find it hard to beleive the statatician John lot said there was a false positive rate of 94% for all checks. Though out of the 70,000 persons rejected above 4,000 is pretty close to 6% of that limited group. and 70,000 is not near 94% of 16.5 mil. Stats are a bitch.
<The FBI said it fielded nearly 16.5 million queries from firearms sellers last year, checking that customers buying guns did not have criminal records or other red flags that made them ineligible to purchase weapons.>
Just wanted the total checks for 2011 but first hit was at Huffpo and quit looking for a different link
http://tinyurl.com/am72fet
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 30, 2012 04:46 PM (Y6HTt)
Posted by: #OccupyResoluteDesk at December 30, 2012 04:46 PM (7QU6R)
re 56 Paladine: back in the early 1980s here in the NYC area, there was a commercial feature Mayor Ed Koch: with a jail cell behind him, he waggled a finger at the camera and said (referring to a new law): "If you get caught with an illegal un in New York, you're going to jail for one year, no ifs ands or buts." (JJ Sefton might remember this one, I think he's also from the NYC area.)
The result? A guy facing five to fifteen years for armed robbery would plead down to a year for illegal possession of a gun. Big improvement that.
Posted by: mallfly at December 30, 2012 04:47 PM (jDjlM)
Posted by: Hillary 2016 Campaign at December 30, 2012 04:48 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman North at December 30, 2012 04:48 PM (I2LwF)
15 for possessing
20 for discharging
life for hitting someone
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 30, 2012 04:49 PM (hc3eM)
Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 04:50 PM (V70Uh)
It becomes privileged testimony, and cannot be used as evidence.
These crime only get prosecuted if the felon involved opens his stupid mouth and confesses. If he just keeps his mouth shut, none of this can be used as evidence of anything.
Posted by: Kristophr at December 30, 2012 04:50 PM (wYVte)
Two weeks is what it took my grandson to recover from 2 concussions, back-to-back. He was kept at home with no electronics, long conversations, television, etc. But he wasn't Secretary of State.
This supposedly showed up on a routine check-up today. Routine on Sunday?
Why aren't we getting doctor's reports? When Bill had a bypass, we had doctors giving reports every few hours. Why aren't we hearing from doctors?
So, is she really sick, is she hiding from doing the testimony, or is she hiding from Obama?
And where are those survivors from Benghazi? By now one would think someone would have found at least one of them. Are they hiding, too?
Posted by: Miss Marple at December 30, 2012 04:50 PM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 04:52 PM (l86i3)
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 30, 2012 04:53 PM (hc3eM)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 04:53 PM (t9Q9e)
Posted by: Jones in CO at December 30, 2012 04:53 PM (8sCoq)
Can the govt really get away with fake concussions and fake blood clots just to avoid testifying?
Could be. Either one, i.e. her testimony OR a stroke could torpedo her chances in '16.
Posted by: pep at December 30, 2012 04:53 PM (6TB1Z)
I'm "required" to fill out IRS forms every year I think if I lie on them they probably use them in my prosecution.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 30, 2012 04:54 PM (Y6HTt)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 30, 2012 04:54 PM (IvVLN)
Posted by: DHS at December 30, 2012 04:54 PM (l86i3)
Bullshit. They can fill it out honestly, and simply be denied on the spot by the FFL if they answer yes to any question.
There is NO PENALTY for NOT lying on a 4473. The worst that happens is you're denied without a NCS check even being run.
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 30, 2012 04:55 PM (hc3eM)
Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 04:56 PM (V70Uh)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 04:56 PM (t9Q9e)
"I have a terrific headache." It's Warm Springs all over again.
The black sailor is strapping on his accordion.
Posted by: comatus at December 30, 2012 04:56 PM (qaVK+)
I only really wanted a ballpark for total checks. But since there was a number I included a link and the mention of where it came from to protect anyone else from clicking it.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 30, 2012 04:57 PM (Y6HTt)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 30, 2012 04:57 PM (IvVLN)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 30, 2012 04:58 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: DHS at December 30, 2012 04:58 PM (l86i3)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 30, 2012 04:59 PM (IvVLN)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 04:59 PM (UOM48)
The IRS is only a government agency when it wants to be.
Your 1040 is merely your reported income. It's the unreported income they can harm you for.
US Customs made the mistake of trying to use the IRS to bust a drug smuggler in the 1990s ... he showed up at tax court, and made the judge order him to report his income.
He did so, reporting a gigantic figure, and admitting it was drug income, and BTW, how much tax do I owe? The judge gave him an enormous figure, and he calmly wrote a check for that amount.
And then left the country. No one could touch him, as he had paid his taxes in full, and his testimony about his income source was privileged.
Posted by: Kristophr at December 30, 2012 05:00 PM (wYVte)
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at December 30, 2012 05:02 PM (yJYwC)
Reading what libs have had to say about GHW Boooosh is so sickening it's frightening. Wishing the old fellow to die and burn in hell with Hitler?
Hope she fully recovers, and still loses in 2016.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 05:02 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 05:03 PM (l86i3)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 05:03 PM (t9Q9e)
Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 05:03 PM (V70Uh)
Posted by: comatus at December 30, 2012 05:04 PM (qaVK+)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 05:05 PM (l86i3)
I'm ummmmm.....really, really.....like smart, too.
And all those sluts claiming my daddy touched them and raped them and stuff, well, they're just lying liars who lie. Right, Mommy?
Posted by: Chelsea Clinton at December 30, 2012 05:05 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 05:05 PM (t9Q9e)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 05:06 PM (l86i3)
Posted by: alexthechick -f u autocorrect at December 30, 2012 05:07 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Y-not at December 30, 2012 05:07 PM (5H6zj)
Anyone here that bat-shit crazy who can channel Vince Foster?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 05:07 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 05:08 PM (l86i3)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at December 30, 2012 05:09 PM (MJlUG)
Alexthechick. Scanner over the phone = no mess. Its like Gallagher and watermelons except its your brains.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 05:09 PM (t9Q9e)
Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 05:09 PM (V70Uh)
I think any ron that could channel would be chatting with Marilyn Monroe.Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 05:10 PM (l86i3)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 05:11 PM (l86i3)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 09:08 PM (l86i3)
Oh I have no compunction about just saying yeah I'm done talking to you and hanging up. It's just that he's going on and on and on like a 12 yo girl and doesn't want to hear any suggestions. This is further proof that he's way more of a girl than I am.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at December 30, 2012 05:12 PM (Gk3SS)
It is absolutely unbelievable to me that we have heard from no doctors in the last couple of weeks.
What if she isn't in the hospital? What if she is on the lam?
Posted by: Miss Marple at December 30, 2012 05:12 PM (GoIUi)
I, don't know why, but I had gotten away from stopping by there on a daily basis.I think sometimes I go in too much for frivolous stuff because it's easy.
he puts himself on the front line and isn't afraid to take f*ckers on
Jeff G. usually has some thought-provoking commentary. Today is no exception.
Posted by: Albie Damned at December 30, 2012 05:12 PM (Yhu4q)
Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 05:13 PM (V70Uh)
Can you imagine if Romney had been elected and Ann had had a terrible bout with MS? Or a recurrence of breast cancer?
I really do want Hillary to pull through 100%. And I want her ass to testify under oath as to what went down in Benghazi.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 05:13 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 30, 2012 05:14 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Mark Sanford at December 30, 2012 05:14 PM (l86i3)
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 30, 2012 05:15 PM (hc3eM)
Hillary is old school Progressive. She will lie her shriveled ass off before the Senate.
I pray for her soul, but not her health.
Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 05:15 PM (V70Uh)
And I blame the low-information, leftest, Marxist tools who voted for the biggest tool bag ever.
It's going to take me a lifetime to forgive the Obamabots who still love his sorry, lazy, Special Snowflake ass.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 05:16 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 30, 2012 05:16 PM (Cnqmv)
http://www.shoebuy.com/bruno-magli-keisha/543820/1136708
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 05:17 PM (t9Q9e)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 30, 2012 05:17 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at December 30, 2012 05:17 PM (MJlUG)
What are the chances that she'll see that light, come back, and spill all? Sure it's unlikely, but I'd bet on 200 or so party functionaries speculating on it right now.
If this happened in a Ton Clancy novel, you'd put it aside and say, God damn it, Clancy. Get real. Anybody remember "Night of Camp David"?
Posted by: comatus at December 30, 2012 05:18 PM (qaVK+)
Posted by: Mark Sanford at December 30, 2012 05:19 PM (l86i3)
Commonwealth Vs. Baxter, and Florida Vs. Watso are a couple of recent cases. ( Baxter was jailed for lying on state forms only )
Felon buying gun charges have to be developed not using the 4473 as evidence.
The 4473 CAN be used to prove FFL holder crimes, such as US vs Lassiter, where the FFL holder had a bunch of kids in his gradeschool class fill out blank forms with their names as an "exercise", and then used those forms to sell firearms to felons.
Posted by: Kristophr at December 30, 2012 05:19 PM (wYVte)
Sadly, that doesn't prevent them from being made in Thailand or the PRC. There's a big controversy in Italy about what counts as made in Italy for clothing since it's turning out that a lot of the couture pieces are being made in the Far East and then just finished in Italy.
*pets boots anyway*
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at December 30, 2012 05:19 PM (Gk3SS)
My compassion and empathy only go so far.
Now the MFM are talking up that idiot Chelsea for Hildebeast's old NY Senate seat.
Yeah, the child of a rapist and an enabler. What could go wrong for the country?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 05:19 PM (UOM48)
Your optimism seems unwarranted.
Posted by: Gordon undead Ramsay at December 30, 2012 05:20 PM (9HhTH)
Why does the scene from the Godfather with Pacino and Enzo the baker outside the hospital come to mind?
Posted by: pep at December 30, 2012 05:21 PM (6TB1Z)
There is a lot of stuff that goes on that we aren't privy to, and I have become so cynical I don't believe anything.
Why don't we have a doctor's statement? That right there gets my antennae up.
Posted by: Miss Marple at December 30, 2012 05:23 PM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 05:23 PM (l86i3)
Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 05:23 PM (V70Uh)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 05:24 PM (t9Q9e)
Then again, the MFM got that Conn shooting story right from the get go......
The Clintons are a fucking blood clot on this country.
Posted by: Woodford Rescue Unit at December 30, 2012 05:25 PM (aZ6ew)
Posted by: JeanQueenie at December 30, 2012 08:15 PM (Gmp2Z)
I see what you did there! lol
Posted by: Killerdog at December 30, 2012 05:25 PM (Oi60j)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 30, 2012 05:25 PM (bxiXv)
Sadly, most people in what's left of this country are too stupid to know or care.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 05:25 PM (UOM48)
>>the FFL holder had a bunch of kids in his gradeschool class fill out blank forms with their names as an "exercise", and then used those forms to sell firearms to felons.
People are sooo lovely.
Posted by: Mama AJ at December 30, 2012 05:26 PM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 05:27 PM (l86i3)
Cold. Dead. Fingers.
Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 08:19 PM (V70Uh)
I stole that, I hope you don't mind.
Posted by: Killerdog at December 30, 2012 05:27 PM (Oi60j)
Some friends gave us some Ghirardelli "Peppermint Bark." The mint is subtle. She loves it. Crap. I have to go back to Wally World tomorrow and hope they have some left. They had it the day after Christmas in big bars for 50% off. Crap. I should have bought some when I had the chance.
Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 05:28 PM (V70Uh)
That case doesn't support your contention if its the same Baxter
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 30, 2012 05:29 PM (hc3eM)
I bet you're lean and hard and know twelve ways to kill a man without calling in airstrike. Just a nod and a high sign, there, across the smoke of battle.
Posted by: comatus at December 30, 2012 05:29 PM (qaVK+)
Posted by: Al
Nope, selectively enforced.
Those that haven't donated to the cause of those in power are first in line. Pressure is brought to bear, and then we are one big happy Party™.
"All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at December 30, 2012 05:30 PM (KDq5l)
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 30, 2012 05:31 PM (hc3eM)
Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 05:32 PM (V70Uh)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 09:27 PM (l86i3
Yep.
Barry told his butt-boy David Gregory that the saddest day of his presidency was the Newtown massacre.
He's apparently forgotten that "workplace violence" that took place at Ft. Hood via the hands of one of Obama's practitioners of peace, Maj. Hassan, as he assassinated un-armed men and women (including a pregnant mom who cried out in her dying moments for her child).
I remembered how he told us about the horror, first saying, "I want to give a shout-out to Chief Fumbles With His Dick" before telling us about the troops he is CiC of who were slaughtered.
He is the evilest, vilest POS ever to put his nasty feet up (or the only one) of the Resolute Desk.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 05:32 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: CarolT at December 30, 2012 05:32 PM (z4WKX)
We've been in recession for 4 years now if the book keeping is honest.
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 30, 2012 05:33 PM (hc3eM)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 05:33 PM (l86i3)
This is an example of the "I work hard" mentality.
I prefer the "I accomplish things" mentality.
Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 05:35 PM (V70Uh)
Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman North at December 30, 2012 05:35 PM (I1APS)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 30, 2012 05:36 PM (bxiXv)
157 I don't mind at all. You honor me sir.
Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 09:28 PM (V70Uh)
Cool!
It's on facebook under my real name now. You may see it pop up soon, at least I hope you, and many others do too.
Posted by: Killerdog at December 30, 2012 05:36 PM (Oi60j)
>>Can some one, anyone, please tell me why any story about Hillary Clinton has to include, at the end, that she is the most widely traveled SOS ever?
Hillary Clinton, who has more reasons to avoid being home than any other SOC ever...
Posted by: Mama AJ at December 30, 2012 05:36 PM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 05:36 PM (l86i3)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 05:37 PM (t9Q9e)
Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman North at December 30, 2012 05:37 PM (I1APS)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, Merry 6th day of Christmas at December 30, 2012 05:38 PM (GVxQo)
A lesson for younger people is this: Accept your age, keep in shape, and keep your mind alert. That way those sumsabitches won't sneak up on you!
Posted by: Miss Marple at December 30, 2012 05:38 PM (GoIUi)
I expect to make a little money in my business next year, but it has been a shadow of its former self since late 2008. OTH, my BIL owns LOTS of local commercial real estate and it is all rented, and he says business is good.
It's not all over yet, but I am stocking some extra beans 'n franks in the pantry, and it ain't due to inclement weather either.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 30, 2012 05:38 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: steevy at December 30, 2012 05:38 PM (dBYCN)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 05:38 PM (t9Q9e)
Posted by: sTevo at December 30, 2012 05:39 PM (VMcEw)
Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 05:39 PM (V70Uh)
because everything Democrats do is awesome
-MSNBC stylebook
Posted by: Jones in CO at December 30, 2012 05:40 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 05:40 PM (l86i3)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 05:40 PM (t9Q9e)
Oh, I thought you said, "Free Billy." Billy Bob Clinton's willy has been raping and pillaging for years with abandon.
Hope Hillary isn't about to be "Vince Fostered" by the Obama Chicago machine.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 05:40 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 30, 2012 05:40 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at December 30, 2012 05:41 PM (MJlUG)
Posted by: CarolT at December 30, 2012 09:32 PM (z4WKX)
She got tired of getting hit in the choppers by the revolving doors in Bill's office.
That's how she got the concussion btw.
Posted by: ontherocks at December 30, 2012 05:42 PM (aZ6ew)
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 30, 2012 05:42 PM (hc3eM)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 05:42 PM (l86i3)
Hillary Clinton, who has more reasons to avoid being home than any other SOC ever...
Posted by: Mama AJ at December 30, 2012 09:36 PM (SUKHu)
lol, Bill would not touch her with a 20' pole, why do you think he was after every skirt in the nation?
Sir Hillary Cliton is a major pain in the ass!
P.S. That's not a typo! lol
Posted by: Killerdog at December 30, 2012 05:43 PM (Oi60j)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 30, 2012 05:43 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: CarolT at December 30, 2012 05:43 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: sTevo at December 30, 2012 05:44 PM (VMcEw)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 05:44 PM (l86i3)
For the life of me, I simply cannot wrap my head around whatever it is they could have possibly been thinking.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 30, 2012 05:44 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: steevy at December 30, 2012 05:45 PM (dBYCN)
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 30, 2012 05:45 PM (hc3eM)
Posted by: Bill at December 30, 2012 05:45 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 05:45 PM (t9Q9e)
Whenever John Foster Dulles visited a country, they'd send in Dave Brubeck a few weeks later to smooth things over.
In the words of Cheech and Chong, Dave's not here.
Posted by: comatus at December 30, 2012 05:47 PM (qaVK+)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 05:47 PM (l86i3)
Warmth wrote that no cheese was so forthcoming as to peter the snout with prostration at Ergushovo, illogical of rational associations for both of infantry.
At that sculptor cable first digestd alligator, and her mere lap handwriting with chief stem, selection would swim invited would seem slightly, had not her itself caught hail of her.
Posted by: grease monkey at December 30, 2012 05:47 PM (VSWPU)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 09:42 PM (t9Q9e)
Put me on the list, still on injured reserve.
I'll make it up later.
Posted by: ontherocks at December 30, 2012 05:47 PM (aZ6ew)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 05:48 PM (l86i3)
You combine the evil of the Clintons with the evil of the Obama's, that's some heavy shit.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 05:48 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Stark Dickflüssig at December 30, 2012 05:49 PM (mKlzx)
I'm working on a Russian Federation / USA compare/contrast post. Nutshell: we effectively traded places with the old Soviet Union.
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 30, 2012 05:49 PM (hc3eM)
Dunno, but there are a lot of good band names in there.
Posted by: Waterhouse at December 30, 2012 05:49 PM (KhZSt)
let's review...
1- she was home alone
2- fell
3- no one has seen her
4- dehydrated
5- how can someone of that high a profile be "home alone" ? No security, no aids, no way.
where is breitbart when you need him?
Posted by: Say What? at December 30, 2012 05:50 PM (3hSf2)
Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman North at December 30, 2012 05:50 PM (I1APS)
Watching Drink Boy mix drinks is like watching Bob Ross paint Happy Clouds.
I must have watch 10 of them.
Posted by: sTevo at December 30, 2012 05:51 PM (VMcEw)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 05:51 PM (t9Q9e)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 05:51 PM (t9Q9e)
See 126.
Posted by: Waterhouse at December 30, 2012 05:52 PM (KhZSt)
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 30, 2012 05:52 PM (hc3eM)
Posted by: Say What? at December 30, 2012 05:52 PM (3hSf2)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 30, 2012 05:52 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman North at December 30, 2012 05:52 PM (I1APS)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 05:52 PM (l86i3)
Arrive with bacon on your breath...
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 30, 2012 05:53 PM (hc3eM)
Posted by: Waterhouse at December 30, 2012 05:54 PM (KhZSt)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 30, 2012 05:54 PM (bxiXv)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkXNEmtf9tk
Posted by: Jones in CO at December 30, 2012 05:54 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: steevy at December 30, 2012 05:54 PM (dBYCN)
Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman North at December 30, 2012 05:55 PM (I1APS)
Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman North at December 30, 2012 09:50 PM (I1APS
Man up. I spent several hours Christmas afternoon and evening with a room full of 20 or so raving socialist liberals.
The life coach s-i-i ordered us all to be quiet, to "summon the life force of our father to join us in our celebration."
Her millionaire newest husband looks like he's on the verge of suicide after five years with her. And that is not a joke. Everyone in the family has noticed, and he's mentioned he's "not happy" in the marriage.
Anyhow, good luck. Drink heavily, and report all the nasty shit back here!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 05:55 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman North at December 30, 2012 09:50 PM (I1APS)
Go to a restaurant. Order veal. That should liven things up.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at December 30, 2012 05:55 PM (Gk3SS)
Jane,I'm very happy now that I have discovered Dexter on Showtime. I have been watching it on demand all weekend. I have had an almost "news free weekend" and am glad the only news I have heard was here and what I have had in my email.
I suggest we all do as much of this as possible until 2015 when the Republicans, if they still exist, will start to announce runs for POTUS for 2016.
We'll find out what we met here and damn the MFM!Posted by: CarolT at December 30, 2012 05:56 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: steevy at December 30, 2012 05:56 PM (dBYCN)
Warmth wrote that no cheese was so forthcoming as to peter the snout with prostration at Ergushovo, illogical of rational associations for both of infantry.
At that sculptor cable first digestd alligator, and her mere lap handwriting with chief stem, selection would swim invited would seem slightly, had not her itself caught hail of her.
Good day.
-Sean Penn
Posted by: pep at December 30, 2012 05:56 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman North at December 30, 2012 05:56 PM (I1APS)
Posted by: Clemenza at December 30, 2012 05:56 PM (ILM+d)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at December 30, 2012 05:56 PM (MJlUG)
never mind. Funds have been tight.
Posted by: comatus at December 30, 2012 05:56 PM (qaVK+)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 30, 2012 05:56 PM (IvVLN)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 05:57 PM (l86i3)
Posted by: Arbalest at December 30, 2012 05:58 PM (ni/qK)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 05:58 PM (t9Q9e)
http://tinyurl.com/b3rpja4
Posted by: pep at December 30, 2012 05:58 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 30, 2012 05:58 PM (bxiXv)
I missed AtC???
*sobs*
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 30, 2012 09:56 PM (IvVLN)
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
So what's the over under on how many picks Romo throws? I'm going with 4.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at December 30, 2012 05:58 PM (Gk3SS)
Go to a restaurant. Order veal. That should liven things up.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at December 30, 2012 09:55 PM (Gk3SS
Heh. I laughed so hard at the veal comment I literally choked. Thanks, alexthechick. Sort of.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 05:58 PM (UOM48)
The hell of it is, I have done business with these guys a fairly long time, and know them pretty well. They are all good men. Good families. All made very much above average incomes, on their own. They are honest men. This is the baffling part.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 30, 2012 05:59 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Clemenza at December 30, 2012 05:59 PM (ILM+d)
Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman North at December 30, 2012 05:59 PM (I1APS)
Posted by: steevy at December 30, 2012 05:59 PM (dBYCN)
Posted by: Say What? at December 30, 2012 06:00 PM (3hSf2)
Naturally fermented wheat-germ puree.
That's what my biker pals used to call Black Velvet, when we'd get invited to a sorority party.
Posted by: comatus at December 30, 2012 06:00 PM (qaVK+)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 30, 2012 06:00 PM (IvVLN)
Posted by: Hollywood Fundraiser at December 30, 2012 06:01 PM (ilgbd)
Posted by: steevy at December 30, 2012 06:01 PM (dBYCN)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 30, 2012 06:01 PM (tOvyV)
tomorrow night. For my wife. Praying nothing and nobody gets broken.
Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman North at December 30, 2012 09:50 PM
In those situations I usually break out different variations of "yeah, I heard about that" while varying tones and facial expressions.
After a few minutes the ones that aren't completely fucking braindead catch on.
In the mean time, you have a little fun with it.
Posted by: ontherocks at December 30, 2012 06:02 PM (aZ6ew)
Rev. Mitch Hescox
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 30, 2012 09:52 PM (e8kgV)
Uh, Rev., you might wanna lay off the sacramental wine.
Sincerely,
The folks who put the money in the collection plate.
Posted by: tcn at December 30, 2012 06:02 PM (VLG62)
Posted by: d1 at December 30, 2012 06:02 PM (fIkHQ)
Posted by: grease monkey at December 30, 2012 06:02 PM (VSWPU)
162 Let have a vote. How many of you think that we are going into recession in 2013 regardless of the "fiscal cliff" bullshit? Any small businesses going to hire except for replacement?
Recession in the middle with subpar growth for the next few years. Wildcards are the bubbling ports strike esp. if other unions join and municipal bankruptcies. Gas prices I think will be a driver as well and if they continue on their downslope some of the blow from tax hikes will be lessened. Worst case would be a sharp rise in gas prices, a layoff wave because of the "pass it to find out whats in it" tax hike from Ocare, and a ports strike that drags on for months causing spot shortages and an inflation wave.
Posted by: RichatUF at December 30, 2012 06:03 PM (rJdKc)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 30, 2012 06:03 PM (IvVLN)
Truman North, a few weeks ago we're on our way to the N. GA mountains to meet up with ATL friends we hadn't seen in a while.
Just before reaching the mountain cabin, husband gets this text: "Don't freak out. We're vegan now. Will explain later."
Husband texts back: "Don't freak out. We're still meatatarians."
Husband fried bacon first thing the next morning, while they ate sesame sticks. Ugh.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 06:04 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 06:06 PM (l86i3)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 30, 2012 06:06 PM (tOvyV)
"No problemo. We've entered into a line marriage, and swing."
Posted by: comatus at December 30, 2012 06:08 PM (qaVK+)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 06:08 PM (l86i3)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at December 30, 2012 06:08 PM (MJlUG)
My 16 year-old, and all his friends, and certainly I, love Bojangles fried chicken. He tweeted last year, "Vegans. I don't get it. How can ANYONE possibly go that long without fried chicken."
Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 30, 2012 06:08 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 30, 2012 06:09 PM (IvVLN)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 06:09 PM (l86i3)
Posted by: CarolT at December 30, 2012 06:10 PM (z4WKX)
What you sign is essentially waiving your rights. Instead of them proving your guilty, you have to prove your innocent.
Posted by: John P. Squibob at December 30, 2012 06:11 PM (kqqGm)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 06:11 PM (t9Q9e)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 06:11 PM (l86i3)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 30, 2012 06:11 PM (tOvyV)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 30, 2012 06:11 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 06:12 PM (t9Q9e)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 06:13 PM (l86i3)
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 30, 2012 06:14 PM (hc3eM)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 30, 2012 10:08 PM (4Mv1T
Your son is Mensa compared to that entitled Special Snowflake in the Oval Office. Given the chance, I will vote for your son over whoever the hell runs in the next election.
Hug him and give him a noogie for me.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 06:14 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Killerdog at December 30, 2012 06:15 PM (Oi60j)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 30, 2012 06:15 PM (tOvyV)
So, when we showed up, we were all dressed in Star Trek TOS uniforms.
"Way da Veeg-'unz? Shay hut, beam me up."
Thanks, tip your waitress over, I hear you already tried the veal.
Hear all week? Change your Beltone battery.
Posted by: comatus at December 30, 2012 06:17 PM (qaVK+)
Posted by: CraigPoe at December 30, 2012 06:17 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 30, 2012 06:19 PM (IvVLN)
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 30, 2012 06:19 PM (Cnqmv)
He's either doing homework, or shooting hoops. God love him (and He does).
Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 30, 2012 06:19 PM (4Mv1T)
I won't think about that until tomorrow, however. I need to sleep.
Night!
Posted by: Miss Marple at December 30, 2012 06:20 PM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 06:20 PM (l86i3)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 06:21 PM (l86i3)
<P> Doubt it. Lucas being a good liberal has better things to do with his money</P>
Posted by: RichatUF at December 30, 2012 06:21 PM (rJdKc)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 30, 2012 06:23 PM (tOvyV)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 30, 2012 06:24 PM (IvVLN)
Posted by: Avi at December 30, 2012 06:28 PM (/ZEtn)
Posted by: Gregory Samsa at December 30, 2012 06:28 PM (Cnqmv)
He did so, reporting a gigantic figure, and admitting it was drug income, and BTW, how much tax do I owe? The judge gave him an enormous figure, and he calmly wrote a check for that amount.
And then left the country. No one could touch him, as he had paid his taxes in full, and his testimony about his income source was privileged.
Posted by: Kristophr at December 30, 2012 09:00 PM (wYVte)
A drug dealer could report all of his ill gotten gains on their tax returns, and list their occupation as Drug Dealer, and the IRS would not be able to turn that information over to the police, or DEA, due to disclosure laws. That much is true. However, the US Attorney can petition a federal judge to issue a court order, (called an Ex Parte order) compelling the IRS to turn over all tax returns. Happens all the time in Federal cases. I would assume that these 4473 forms would be obtainable the same way.
Posted by: elliot at December 30, 2012 06:29 PM (blkVM)
Posted by: CarolT at December 30, 2012 06:29 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 30, 2012 06:30 PM (tOvyV)
vegetarian socialists tomorrow night. For my wife. Praying nothing and
nobody gets broken.
Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman North at December 30, 2012 09:50 PM (I1APS)
Bring up how many rabbits, moles, voles, mice, baby birds are killed in the harvesting of vegetables and grains.
Posted by: museisluse at December 30, 2012 06:54 PM (SsWgR)
Posted by: Sarah at December 30, 2012 11:32 PM (LTrJX)
- 70,000+ NICS (instant check) rejections/yr
True.
- 4,000+/yr deemed in violation of law and referred for prosecution
Not true. These 4,000+ denials were referred to field divisions for review; not necessarily for prosecution. Special agents at the field offices verify conviction and prohibition information and conduct additional investigations. In 2009, almost 600 of these referrals were found to be persons who were not prohibited.
It is not illegal for a prohibited person to undergo a background check for the purchase or transfer of a firearm. Just because they were red-flagged and denied does not mean they broke any law. And, contrary to your summary, it could be well argued that the government is serious as these background checks are working as planned and preventing guns from getting into the hands of prohibited individuals.
Posted by: George at December 31, 2012 08:03 AM (W7x8r)
Look like you were right, and I was wrong here.
For a brief time, my contention was correct, but congress fixed the law.
From guncite.org:
For a brief period, the Supreme Court held in 1968 (Haynes v. U.S., 390 U.S. 85) that felons were exempt from federal and state laws regarding registration because it violated their Fifth Amendment protection against self-incrimination. In other words, only people who were not criminals could be prosecuted for failing to register a firearm or found to be in possession of an unregistered firearm. However, in 1971, (U.S. v. Freed, 401 U.S. 601) the Court held that due to changes in the National Firearms Act of 1968 the law no longer violated the 5th Amendment rights of felons.
Posted by: Kristophr at December 31, 2012 11:40 AM (wYVte)
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