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August 29, 2012

About Those Pennsylvania Rumors
— CAC

I have now heard through multiple sources that excitement amongst the party leadership has rebounded regarding Pennsylvania.

Everybody who reads AOS knows my thoughts on the state.

Here is a cold splash from me: the excitement seems to stem from the wrong region.

Western Pennsylvania has been drifting rightward for decades. The Metro Pitt region went for Dukakis by hundreds of thousands of votes. That margin shrank to a pitiful 29k in 2008 for Obama. And therein lies the problem: we are going to win the region for the first time since 1972, but we already almost did in a year where the President stomped McCain statewide by 10. This is the area the GOP is excited about, but unfortunately it is the wrong region in terms of changing the statewide winner.
Winning Metropolitan Pittsburgh despite Allegheny County is a win for the long-term, but the battle for the Keystone comes down to four counties in the southeast: Bucks, Montgomery, Delaware, and Chester. This is the 800lb gorilla in the room: the leftward shift of this region over the last two decades has done more to hurt Republican chances in the state than any vote bomb eminating from Philadelphia proper. Had we not lost this region, PA would be redder today than at anytime since WW2 (thanks to the Republicanization of western Pennsylvania). Team Romney needs to tackle the challenge of convincing these moderate suburban ex-Republicans he is right for the job. If he flips Bucks and Chester and holds Obama down significantly in the other two, the state is almost certainly his, Philly be damned.

It is a big job, but as I've stressed, now is not the time for timid campaigning.
Accept the real challenge, and Go Big.

Posted by: CAC at 04:47 AM | Comments (412)
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1 Romney should send his corporate wife.

Posted by: Golan Globus at August 29, 2012 04:49 AM (/1U3u)

2 the president is a scoamf

Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny & team armstrong at August 29, 2012 04:50 AM (Ho2rs)

3 I get the sense from Romney and his campaign that they're at least one step ahead of you on this analysis, if not three or four. Not because of specific actions, but because Romney's campaign has been extraordinarily competent. It's not that they have done everything right, it's just that they've done nothing truly important wrong.

Posted by: Cobalt Shiva at August 29, 2012 04:51 AM (1iauC)

4 Release the Krakken $$$$$

Posted by: Mitt at August 29, 2012 04:51 AM (M8GBB)

5 CAC I'm out and about on my droid and am wondering wht you think of Rasmusen's trend?

Posted by: sven10077 at August 29, 2012 04:53 AM (hiVgY)

6 Republicans are probably never going to win Phily.

Posted by: Vic at August 29, 2012 04:53 AM (YdQQY)

I live in Delaware County (Delco in local parlance). I know back in 2008 the county vote was split 50-50, and that was when I was seeing a lot of Obama signs in the yards. I have seen NO signs this year, and darn few bumper stickers. Maybe that'll change as we get closer to the election, but I would say that any idealistic urges for Hope and Change have pretty much evaporated in my county. Heck, I drive through West Philly every day and am not even seeing signs there. In 2004 I counted 47 Kerry/Edwards signs in a 2-mile strip on the day after the election, and the Obama stuff was even more present in 2008. I'm just not seeing it now.

Posted by: Kimberly at August 29, 2012 04:54 AM (GcBz+)

8 I still say Barky sucks.

Posted by: Killerdog at August 29, 2012 04:57 AM (M8kTt)

9 Go big ot go home. Release the Kracken. Rudy. Rudy. Rudy.

Posted by: Honey the Badger Tibialis at August 29, 2012 04:57 AM (GvYeG)

10 6 Vic, Depends on how many zombies are "concerned former citizens" enough to "vote".....

Posted by: sven10077 at August 29, 2012 04:57 AM (hiVgY)

11 Republicans are probably never going to win Phily.

Posted by: Vic at August 29, 2012 08:53 AM (YdQQY)

Not when you've got a glut of cemeteries within walking distance.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/i][/u][/b] at August 29, 2012 04:57 AM (4df7R)

12 Romney is playing Eleventy dimensional chess!

Posted by: VW Zao at August 29, 2012 04:57 AM (I7O5y)

13 What state is Philadelphia across the river from?

Who's the governor of that state?

Posted by: filbert at August 29, 2012 05:00 AM (smvTK)

14 7 Kimberly, Thanks for the info there is not a lot of signage for either guy in the I-70 corridor I drive between IN and OH either. People are definitely not openly displaying their Hopium addiction.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 29, 2012 05:00 AM (hiVgY)

15 This is soooooo easy.

Posted by: Romney playing 4-dimensional Tic-Tac-Toe at August 29, 2012 05:03 AM (xAtAj)

16 I'd gladly sacrifice Lance Armstrong's remaining testicle to see PA go red this year. Obama's super-pac's have been advertising heavily all summer long, and if Romney wants this state, he's going to have to spend a bunch of money for it. A worthwhile investment, IMO.

Obama's PAC's wouldn't be advertising so desperately here if they weren't scared.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at August 29, 2012 05:04 AM (L7hol)

17 I was watching some report on romney over the weekend and they talked about how he took over the mission and then changed the goal and beat it. Then I come on here and read this. So I'm thinking romney, if he already hasn't said it sees this and says " that's the goal, we want philly"....

Posted by: cynder ella at August 29, 2012 05:05 AM (oZfic)

>>Heck, I drive through West Philly every day and am not even seeing signs there.

In 2008, wasn't there something about Obama's campaign not handing out "walking around money"? If they are tight on money this year, they might not do what's needed to get the vote out.

Posted by: Mama AJ at August 29, 2012 05:05 AM (SUKHu)

CAC, surely it depends on HOW MUCH the western part of PA is going Republican?

If it's just "narrow Dem" shifting to "narrow GOP" then you have a point. But perhaps the excitement this time is because it's going GOP in a big way? That might go a long way to overcoming the Dem strongholds without any major moves in suburban Philadelphia?

Posted by: AussieMarcus at August 29, 2012 05:05 AM (RstsB)

20 I have said it ad nauseam, I can't believe that anyone who has been paying attention for the last 3.5 years is going to sign up for 4 more.

I think it's going to be a landslide, I really do. PA goes red.

Posted by: General Woundwort at August 29, 2012 05:06 AM (06lNq)

21 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 29, 2012 05:06 AM (8y9MW)

22 The Philly area, or as I like to call it, West Jersey, and NEPA are blue. The rest of the state is pretty much red red red with the Pittsburgh area approaching plaid. It'll be interesting to watch what happens with NEPA with all the natural gas money coming in.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 29, 2012 05:07 AM (VtjlW)

23 Can't rememeber how "blue" was on CAC's map last night. Can only imagine the LSM heads exploding election night if it goes red. Mornin' Brent.

Posted by: teej at August 29, 2012 05:07 AM (RYVE/)

24 I was stunned by Obama's margin of victory in Bucks and Montgomery counties in 2008. I think he won Bucks by 8% and Montco by about 15%. Bucks may be turnable but I think Montco is probably a lost cause. It has more in common with Philly.

Posted by: rickl at August 29, 2012 05:08 AM (zoehZ)

Chesco (Chester County) is a gimme. Bucks is the iffy one, because of the Noo Yawker transplants. I guess Lower Bucks will have to come in big for the GOP. Montco could flip due to economic pain on the Main Line. (Yes Virginia, there *is* trouble in paradise.)

Delco is a union stronghold, also the destination for Philly donks escaping the city. Seems the least likely to flip...imo.

Posted by: kallisto at August 29, 2012 05:09 AM (jm/9g)

26 I don't want to get too excited, because the capacity for "dumb" among my fellow citizens often dismays me, but if we hold SCOAMT down to low single digit victory in PA, what does that mean for the rest of the states? Seriously, we're talking about Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania being competitive to leaning red and not in an an ironic or "man I wish" kind of way.

Think about that for a moment.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 29, 2012 05:09 AM (8y9MW)

27 I'm from Lower Bucks, South 6...I believe this to be ground zero for PA. I'm surrounded by hippy-trippy Boomers, but there's hope. Pushback is seen even at the grassroots in school boards and contempt for the teacher union bullies. We bounced Patrick Murphy, so there's that. But, it will be a squeaker, no doubt. Mitt, GO BIG HERE!!!

Posted by: MinkMonica at August 29, 2012 05:10 AM (MzLFZ)

28 Think about that for a moment.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 29, 2012 09:09 AM (8y9MW)

........................

Dammit. Now I need new pants.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 29, 2012 05:11 AM (da5Wo)

29 Chris Matthews brother is the Democrat gang leader of Montgomery County, isn't he? If Matthews thought his race baiting carried any risks for Dems in suburban Philly (and especially Montgomery County) he presumably would have toned his hate-speech way down. Since he periodically talks about running for the Senate in the area, I guess the piece of crap has some justified confidence.

Posted by: MTF at August 29, 2012 05:11 AM (B5y+v)

30 Think about that for a moment. Do I have to? I'm out of pudding right now.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 29, 2012 05:11 AM (VtjlW)

31 Bucks is for Romney, or at least against Barky. Montgomery is a light shade of blue. Can't speak for the others, but Bucks is definitely trending red, just from my anecdotal evidence.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at August 29, 2012 05:12 AM (RD7QR)

32 People will vote for barky again because they are either lazy or ignorant. Of course the former tends to lead to the latter.

Posted by: teej at August 29, 2012 05:12 AM (RYVE/)

33 PA now has voter ID -- Isn't that likely to help RnR? And no, that is not a reference to preventing minorities from voting, it's a reference to dead people voting.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 29, 2012 05:13 AM (ccXZP)

Chris Matthews brother is the Democrat gang leader of Montgomery County, isn't he?

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No he's Republican and he's under indictment.

Posted by: kallisto at August 29, 2012 05:13 AM (jm/9g)

35
# 22

It'll be interesting to watch what happens with NEPA with all the natural gas money coming in.

A lot of people in my area, (Honesdale PA), hate it. "Don't Frack With My Water" signs are everywhere...almost as prevalent as New York license plates. There have been efforts to shut NG fracking down entirely due to the proximity of these operations to the Delaware Water Gap, (and several more underway). In the local high-school, one of the science teachers shows the schlockumentary 'Gasland' in his classes. I've had more than one kid come home from school to inform me that fracking can cause tap water to become flammable.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at August 29, 2012 05:15 AM (L7hol)

36 Chester county is solid Republican, but Bucks is another matter.

Posted by: Neo at August 29, 2012 05:15 AM (e8kgV)

37 No word on Cadaver Co. I take it.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at August 29, 2012 05:15 AM (dKCSI)

Delaware county went to Obama by 20 points, actually, correcting the comment above saying it was 50-50.

Metro Pitt has nowhere near the population that the four collar counties have, guys. That is why even a big shift there does nothing for SEPA. A big shift means some breathing room for fighting O's margins in Montgomery and Delaware, but doesn't get you as close as directly addressing the suburban problem.

As for Rasmussen's daily I find it interesting as all the other pollsters are finding the race tighter/moving to Romney his polling has become the odd-man-out. Obama had a good weekend of sampling, if the numbers switch back it is because a) those rolled off the average and b) Romney has started to see a convention bounce. Time will tell with that.

Posted by: CAC at August 29, 2012 05:15 AM (J696i)

39 Chris Matthews brother, James, is a Republican in Montgomery county.
He recent got indicted for lying to a grand jury.

Posted by: Neo at August 29, 2012 05:16 AM (e8kgV)

Overheard at work

[AA guy complaining to AA female about GOP]: "...might as well be 1980 for the Republicans. I mean, you look at Romney and all them...."

And here I am thinking to myself "Holy Sh*t! I hope so!"

I mean, Hell, we've got Jimmuh 2 in office now and another Evil Empire to fight off, not to mention ascendant Leftardism. Maybe it's best just to run with criticism like that.....

Posted by: Uterus Cannon at August 29, 2012 05:17 AM (3ZtZW)

41 PA now has voter ID -- Isn't that likely to help RnR? And no, that is not a reference to preventing minorities from voting, it's a reference to dead people voting.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 29, 2012 09:13 AM (ccXZP)

Obama's margin in 2008 came from legitimate suburban moderates out of the Philadelphia collar counties AND a more even T. McCain only netted 100k out of the T, Bush netted over 425k.

Fraud had nothing to do with McCain's 10 point loss. He sucked and the states demographics were all in for Obama for that race.

Posted by: CAC at August 29, 2012 05:17 AM (J696i)

42 Map. How am I supposed to find the Western PA region without a map?

Posted by: Uncledave at August 29, 2012 05:18 AM (nJ32z)

43 Sociologist Catherine Hakim argues that in the future conservative women are more likely to embrace their 'erotic capital', using their looks sway supporters.
http://is.gd/xSc8eT

Or maybe it's just too fucking hot in Florida in August for suits.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 29, 2012 05:18 AM (/kI1Q)

44 Just for another data point, I'm talking about the Newtown region, where I work. I live in Montgomery.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at August 29, 2012 05:18 AM (RD7QR)

45 teej thinks about what Alextc could dip in bowl of pudding,, volunteers for clean-up duty

Posted by: teej at August 29, 2012 05:19 AM (PNi9V)

46 I'm in MN and I also don't see many Obama bumper stickers and hardly any lawn signs. There are a lot of anti-gay marriage referendum signs though.

Posted by: MJH at August 29, 2012 05:20 AM (UF0og)

47 45 teej thinks about what Alextc could dip in bowl of pudding,, volunteers for clean-up duty

Posted by: teej at August 29, 2012 09:19 AM (PNi9V)

If all goes as we hope -- knock on wood -- there will be plenty of pudding-soaked body parts to clean up.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at August 29, 2012 05:20 AM (RD7QR)

48 41 PA now has voter ID -- Isn't that likely to help RnR? And no, that is not a reference to preventing minorities from voting, it's a reference to dead people voting.

I had a friend who canvas in Philadelphia for McGovern back in 1972.

He told me that there were plenty of dead folks registered, not to mention all the folks registered to vacant lots who had voted in at least the 4 previous elections.

My friend is now a Republican. I guess this was his "mugging".

Posted by: Neo at August 29, 2012 05:20 AM (e8kgV)

Posted by: CAC at August 29, 2012 09:15 AM (J696i)

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I live in Delco, my polling place was packed to the rafters in 2008, contrary to the normal pattern. Many of the new faces were young women. (This was in the western part of the county, not even the union strong river wards). In the Philly collar counties, it will be a precinct to precinct battle. And so much will depend on turnout.

Posted by: kallisto at August 29, 2012 05:20 AM (jm/9g)

50 How am I supposed to find the Western PA region without a map?

It exists? I thought it was just a legend.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 29, 2012 05:21 AM (/kI1Q)

O yeah, I'm ready to rock and roll, baby.

Reeeeelleeeeeaassse ME!!!!11!!!!

Posted by: The Krakken at August 29, 2012 05:22 AM (ozrdM)

52 In all honesty, which is worse for the related political party? Akin's assine remarks on rape -- or the Jumah.(Islamic prayer) at the DNC? (Link in sig)

Posted by: Jay Bee at August 29, 2012 05:22 AM (6W8+8)

53 50 How am I supposed to find the Western PA region without a map?

It exists? I thought it was just a legend.

Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ needs a beer at August 29, 2012 09:21 AM (/kI1Q)

Only Breezewood and Pittsburgh really exist, the rest is just a howling desert.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at August 29, 2012 05:23 AM (RD7QR)

54 I wonder what the off-camera interaction was between Megan Kelly and Juan Williams after his "corporate wife" comment. Megan looked pissed, and Juan wasn't there after they came back from a break. There was some comment about Juan as they were closing, but I didnt catch it.

Posted by: Havedash at August 29, 2012 05:23 AM (BRhGr)

@53 -

Come on now, Fallingwater is tucked in there somewhere.

Posted by: kallisto at August 29, 2012 05:24 AM (jm/9g)

It seems to me that on weekends, Rasmussen looks much better for Obama, then as those wash out of the tracking (Wednesday through Saturday), the numbers look much better for Romney. Strange that, I'd have thought more Republicans would be home on weekends than weekdays.....

Posted by: AussieMarcus at August 29, 2012 05:24 AM (RstsB)

57 If the ads I'm seeing on C-SPAN during the convention are the ones that are going to start being released, I feel pretty good about this campaign. There's some really good ones.

"I'm not a bump in the road, I'm an American" comes to mind.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at August 29, 2012 05:24 AM (UEEex)

58 Chris Matthews brother, James, is a Republican in Montgomery county.
He recent got indicted for lying to a grand jury.

Posted by: Neo at August 29, 2012 09:16 AM (e8kgV)

And yet Chris goes unindicted for lying to his audience every night. Well, I guess it's the severity of the crime: there are more members of the grand jury to lie to than there are in Chris' audience.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at August 29, 2012 05:25 AM (nZvGM)

59 Let me tell you exactly why I think PA will go red this year. I live here. In western PA fracking jobs are everywhere. So much so that half of the cars on the road have Missouri, Texas, Iowa, Wyoming, Idaho, West VA, license plates on them. The people that drive these cars are working everyday in high paying Oil and natural gas jobs. Thousands upon thousands of people have transplanted to this area. If even half of them vote republican this state tilts red. Voting for Romney will ensure their jobs in this industry. If Obama wins these jobs will get shut down by the EPA in an executive order minute. This is the Pennsylvania wild card. Mark. My. Words.

Posted by: Marie at August 29, 2012 05:25 AM (P9OJs)

60 Only Breezewood and Pittsburgh really exist, the rest is just a howling desert.

Wasn't "The Book Of Eli" filmed there? I think I heard that somewhere, from some guy's brother's sister.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at August 29, 2012 05:26 AM (UEEex)

61 57 Jay in Ames,

Artur Davis-I am not a bump in the road, and who the hell put this bus on me?

Posted by: sven10077 at August 29, 2012 05:31 AM (LRFds)

62 Meh.. PA will go for Obama... but.. If Romney forces SCOAMF to spend money he doesnt have there.. all the better.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at August 29, 2012 05:31 AM (DGIjM)

63 CAC thanks for the update.

The Purple PT Cruiser of Passion is ok....left front leg needed bandaged.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 29, 2012 05:31 AM (LRFds)

64 4 delco votes for Romney, me/wife + my folks. Then again my Dad claims he hasn't voted for a winner since Kennedy. But that does not seem humanly possible for a regular voter.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at August 29, 2012 05:32 AM (wJGQT)

65 270 works just as well as 370 and if you wind up missing the mark as a result of spreading resources too thin it'll be too late to say: "oops." Romney has to win this election, not prove a point. Granted, if the professional internal polling actually has him ahead in PA then obviously he should spend money, time and effort there to hold that lead. Otherwise, however, it'll be a case of chasing windmills. You simply can't make that mistake. Not when the country's future hangs in the balance.

Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at August 29, 2012 05:33 AM (r2PLg)

66 What state is Philadelphia across the river from?

Who's the governor of that state?

What is the air speed of an unladed swallow?

Posted by: fluffy at August 29, 2012 05:33 AM (z9HTb)

67 Come on now, Fallingwater is tucked in there somewhere.

I hate Frank Lloyd Wright. While he was getting rich designing grand single-family homes for rich people, he was advocating shoving the rest of us into tiny super-dense sterile multi-family units. Total eco-fascist.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 29, 2012 05:33 AM (/kI1Q)

68 My large PA family (mother had 15 bros and sis's) are 90+ percent for Romney. There is one usually obnoxious Obamabot who has been rather quiet as of late.

Posted by: RWC at August 29, 2012 05:34 AM (fWAjv)

69 41 Obama's margin in 2008 came from legitimate suburban moderates out of the Philadelphia collar counties AND a more even T. McCain only netted 100k out of the T, Bush netted over 425k. Fraud had nothing to do with McCain's 10 point loss. Yep, that's right. Lots of genuine Flavor Aid drinkers here in the Philly burbs.

Posted by: rickl at August 29, 2012 05:34 AM (zoehZ)

70 56 AM,

A lot of Romney's backers are otherwise detained on Saturday and Sunday...

Posted by: sven10077 at August 29, 2012 05:34 AM (LRFds)

71 I grew up in SE MontCo, it used to be a Republican stronghold until the Clinton years, and it's still generally Republican state officials elected there. I'm also close friends with several members of the Matthews clan, my brother was best man in one of their weddings. Chris is the political outsider of that family, the rest of them are big-time Republicans, and the one that is my childhood friend is hard right, almost libertarian in his views. Their perspective on the James Matthews story is obviously more forgiving than the local liberal media paints it. However, CAC is definitely right about one thing--without flipping those big 4 counties, nothing else in PA realistically matters. Montgomery County, which is about the size of metro LA in area, would be something like the 10th largest city in the country if it were incorporated--population is well north of 700K, and it's the sort of place that represents PA politics in a microcosm--densely populated in the south, rural in the north, rife with pro-life Democrats and pro-choice Republicans, and corrupt as hell. Delaware, Chester, Bucks and Montco together have more population than Philly, and if those go even slightly red it turns the huge Dem advantage in Philly to a close loss in PA for the donks, and even a 35-40% showing in Philly for the Repubs would mean landslide victory statewide.

Posted by: Conservative Crank, at work at August 29, 2012 05:35 AM (sQ0LB)

72 Fallingwater is tucked in there somewhere. Posted by: kallisto at August 29, 2012 09:24 AM (jm/9g) *gasp* *genuflects with reverence* My Holy Grail in High School.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at August 29, 2012 05:35 AM (dKCSI)

Ok, soothsayer. I'm calling you out since you like to predict.

What's the bounce for Romney after the convention?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 29, 2012 05:35 AM (z/Nqu)

74 re Islamic prayers at the dem convention. If the GOP had any guts, they would talk about this. Look at who the dems allow to pray at their convention and look at what islam does to women. Who really supports a war on women? Hypocritical SOBs.

Posted by: Havedash at August 29, 2012 05:35 AM (BRhGr)

75 "NYC Mayor Advocates Tiny Living Spaces Called Â‘Micro-UnitsÂ’" http://tinyurl.com/9uerplr

Posted by: cynder ella at August 29, 2012 05:35 AM (oZfic)

76 http://tinyurl.com/5tnd2b

Ras Daily Prez

Bam 46% Mitt 45%......

*sigh*

Posted by: sven10077 at August 29, 2012 05:37 AM (LRFds)

77 Breezewood. The one part of the Interstate Highway System that will never, ever, be finished.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 29, 2012 05:38 AM (l3vZN)

78 Posted by: fluffy at August 29, 2012 09:33 AM (z9HTb)
What do you mean? African or European?

Posted by: filbert at August 29, 2012 05:38 AM (smvTK)

79 I think it is going to come down to democrats, who have to think before they pull the lever: "Do I really want four more years of this?"

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 29, 2012 05:40 AM (3ETnh)

80 76 http://tinyurl.com/5tnd2b Ras Daily Prez Bam 46% Mitt 45%...... *sigh* Posted by: sven10077 at August 29, 2012 09:37 AM (LRFds) Undecideds break 2:1 for the challenger. Predicts 52 - 48 Romney...

Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 29, 2012 05:41 AM (136wp)

Reeeeelleeeeeaassse ME!!!!11!!!!

Don't forget me.

Posted by: AlGore's Second Chakra at August 29, 2012 05:41 AM (d0Tfm)

82 79 I think it is going to come down to democrats, who have to think before they pull the lever: "Do I really want four more years of this?"

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 29, 2012 09:40 AM (3ETnh)

4 more years of "free" stuff at the expense of those evil rich?

Posted by: Havedash at August 29, 2012 05:42 AM (BRhGr)

83 76 http://tinyurl.com/5tnd2b

Ras Daily Prez

Bam 46% Mitt 45%......

*sigh*
--- This won't reflect any convention effects until tomorrow.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at August 29, 2012 05:42 AM (wJGQT)

84 What do you mean? African or European?

I don't know...

AAAAAA-aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Posted by: fluffy makes a leap of faith at August 29, 2012 05:42 AM (z9HTb)

85 I've had more than one kid come home from school to inform me that fracking can cause tap water to become flammable.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at August 29, 2012 09:15 AM (L7hol)

You might want to point out to them that reservoirs are rarely below 500 feet, while fracturing occurs a mile down.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 29, 2012 05:43 AM (3ETnh)

86 I think winning Michigan/Wisconsin is more a realistic goal.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at August 29, 2012 05:44 AM (DGIjM)

Citizen fo Montgomery County here. CAC has nailed it on the head. For Republicans to win, they need the suburbs of Philly. Unfortunately, the suburbs, which used to be fairly Republican, have been become very purple, dare a I say bluish over the years. Romney needs to focus like a laser on economic issues and competence.

It doesn't seem like Tom Smith is gaining traction for Senate. I voted for him, but he's not hammering away on economic issues in a way that will appeal to the people in the Philly suburbs. However, if Romney plays his cards right, he can win here.

The thing I'm worried about now is the Senate race in North Dakota. Seems to getting tighter.

Posted by: David of PA at August 29, 2012 05:44 AM (tPdIW)

88 Montgomery & Bucks...so glad I moved away from there.

Posted by: Politifarce at August 29, 2012 05:45 AM (EYfcP)

89 Oh God, yoko and sean on cbs this am speaking out against tracking. Excuse me. Need to go throw up.

Posted by: teej at August 29, 2012 05:45 AM (tWrwm)

I used to make the PHL-PGH turnpike trek on a regular basis. Breezewood is the notorious speed trap. Got caught one time, afterwards understood why the cars on the opposite side of the highway were blinking their headlights at us.

Posted by: kallisto at August 29, 2012 05:46 AM (jm/9g)

91 I watched the ridiculous Star Wars Bar Event (Republi-Loser CONvention). I thought Arten Davids speech stunk and fatso Christy was an idiot. They all sucked and Romney's wife is a liar, a stepferd wife and is stewped. What a waste of electricity. I turned this garbage off to watch "Sex in the City' instead. They should have cancelled the CONvention because of the Herricane in Alibama. Do you have No feeling, do you have no shame.........................LOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSERS !!!

Posted by: mARY cLOGGINSTEIN FROM bRATTLEBORO, vt at August 29, 2012 05:46 AM (48wze)

92 Accept the real challenge, and Go Big. Alternately, if you're gonna be a bear, be a Grizzly!

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 29, 2012 05:46 AM (Rhie+)

93 Will be working on GOTV for Mitt in either Chester or Delaware County PA, starting in September. I want to see Barky and Mooch crushed.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at August 29, 2012 05:46 AM (DRG6e)

94 Uncledave

Look for the gleam of Super Bowl trophies.

Posted by: DaveA at August 29, 2012 05:46 AM (Ve9V9)

95 What state is Philadelphia across the river from?

Who's the governor of that state?
Posted by: filbert

FIRE SHIPS!!!

Posted by: Dang at August 29, 2012 05:46 AM (R18D0)

96 Sounds like we have enough folks for a SE Pa. moron meetup

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at August 29, 2012 05:47 AM (Sb7Zt)

97 Based on my elections Prediction model and if I assume that 3% of Obama 2008 voters in Pennsylvania stay home in 2012, Romney needs to win 19% of Obama "White Voters" from 2008 in Pennsylvania in order to win this state... That is a very difficult task... Not impossible but very difficult...

Posted by: mnjg at August 29, 2012 05:47 AM (e3hs8)

98 I've had more than one kid come home from school to inform me that fracking can cause tap water to become flammable. I lived in NEPA for years and years. Flaming water from methane would be far preferable to giardia from the beaver shit that got into the water supply.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 29, 2012 05:47 AM (VtjlW)

99 89 Oh God, yoko and sean on cbs this am speaking out against tracking. Excuse me. Need to go throw up. Posted by: teej at August 29, 2012 09:45 AM (tWrwm) Let's just pray Yoko doesn't write a song about it....

Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 29, 2012 05:47 AM (136wp)

100 77 Breezewood. The one part of the Interstate Highway System that will never, ever, be finished. Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 29, 2012 09:38 AM (l3vZN) I didn't even know they were working on it! Hell, it's looked like that all my life. (except for upgrading the 'Gateway' rest stop.)

Posted by: RWC at August 29, 2012 05:49 AM (fWAjv)

101 Let's just pray Yoko doesn't write a song about it....

Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 29, 2012 09:47 AM (136wp)

It'll be scored for band saw and tortured cat.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at August 29, 2012 05:50 AM (RD7QR)

102 Breezewood: Town of Motels!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at August 29, 2012 05:50 AM (DRG6e)

103 - Montgomery County PA -- I'm a long-time Republican, first time commenter (longbows). One reason suburban Philly started to go Blue was that our local Republican committee kept coughing up god-awful candidates (e.g. Jon Fox) to the point where the electorate went for Marjorie Mergolies-Mezvinsky and, subsequently, was more open to voting for Dems in the larger elections. Also, Rendell being Governor got more Philly suburbs people to vote Dem for statewide office. He's not running for office, so there's no statewide draw for people to vote 'Dem.' _

Posted by: BumperStickerist at August 29, 2012 05:50 AM (RuUvx)

104 97 Based on my elections Prediction model and if I assume that 3% of Obama 2008 voters in Pennsylvaniastay home in 2012, Romney needs to win 19% of Obama "White Voters" from 2008 in Pennsylvaniain order to win this state... That is a very difficult task... Not impossible but very difficult... Posted by: mnjg at August 29, 2012 09:47 AM (e3hs

Whether he can win or not, Romney should make Obama pay to win PA.

Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 29, 2012 05:50 AM (136wp)

105 So all you PA folks, I see the posts about fracking. What about Big Coal, are not those PA folks ready to figuratively lynch JEF?

Posted by: Will Be Taking Applications and Assimilating The Love-slaves at August 29, 2012 05:50 AM (kXoT0)

106 @43

Bachman is hot, BUT that voice. Fingernails on the chalk board.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at August 29, 2012 05:51 AM (3ZjAP)

107 Someone in the rino leadership must think that PA is in play. It seems that every other week the Romney campaign is flying in & stopping traffic 'Dahntahn' en-at.

Followed the next week by Biden or Zero flying in and shutting down the 'Pahkway' en-at.

Starting to wish all them political 'jahg-offs' would stay in 'Warshington'

Posted by: Mark E at August 29, 2012 05:52 AM (w5RwR)

108 What about Big Coal, are not those PA folks ready to figuratively lynch JEF?

Posted by: Will Be Taking Applications and Assimilating The Love-slaves at August 29, 2012 09:50 AM (kXoT0)

They typically do what their union leaders tell them to. Historically, they have been good stupid lemmings.

Posted by: Havedash at August 29, 2012 05:52 AM (BRhGr)

109 Partisan politics aside, It is astounding to me at his late date how many STUPID people out there don't see SCOAMF for what he is:
A hateful, lying fraud, with a filtered and selected history completely at odds with the concept of American Exceptionalism, and favoring instead communist style state supremacy and middle class killing wealth redistribution.

And a sucker of cock.

Posted by: ontherocks at August 29, 2012 05:52 AM (aZ6ew)

110 105 So all you PA folks, I see the posts about fracking. What about Big Coal, are not those PA folks ready to figuratively lynch JEF?

Posted by: Will Be Taking Applications and Assimilating The Love-slaves at August 29, 2012 09:50 AM (kXoT0)

The conventional wisdom on them is: union stiffs to a man. These are the people who will pull the lever for the D even though they are unemployed and on the dole, because that's what dad did. I don't know if this is still true, what with Bambi's stand on coal.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at August 29, 2012 05:53 AM (RD7QR)

111 It'll be interesting to watch what happens with NEPA with all the natural gas money coming in. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 29, 2012 09:07 AM (VtjlW) Funny thing is the only people who approve of the drilling are those who benefit directly from it. The rest of the brain dead idiots are all "OMG! Fracking is gonna destroy the earth!" Luzerne and Lackawanna Counties will remain solid blue. One nice thing -- I live in a suburban township that stubbornly remains red.

Posted by: Ed Anger at August 29, 2012 05:54 AM (tOkJB)

112 88 Montgomery & Bucks...so glad I moved away from there. Posted by: Politifarce ----- It's not that bad. I think they are pretty decent places to live.

Posted by: David of PA at August 29, 2012 05:54 AM (tPdIW)

113 Breezewood. The one part of the Interstate Highway System that will never, ever, be finished.

I'm not sure what you meant?

Posted by: DaveA at August 29, 2012 05:55 AM (Ve9V9)

114 Ross Douche-hat take down post up at my place.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 29, 2012 05:55 AM (8y9MW)

115 And a sucker of cock. Posted by: ontherocks at August 29, 2012 09:52 AM (aZ6ew) He sucks c*ck like be plays basketball, dribbles like a two-year old with no payoff.

Posted by: Reggie Love at August 29, 2012 05:56 AM (136wp)

116 I wonder how many people are flat-out lying to pollsters nowadays.

Posted by: filbert at August 29, 2012 05:56 AM (smvTK)

117 115 And a sucker of cock.
Posted by: ontherocks at August 29, 2012 09:52 AM (aZ6ew)

He sucks c*ck like be plays basketball, dribbles like a two-year old with no payoff.

Posted by: Reggie Love at August 29, 2012 09:56 AM (136wp)

Some warning would have been nice and would have saved a keyboard.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at August 29, 2012 05:57 AM (YYyqq)

118 Bucks may be turnable but I think Montco is probably a lost cause. It has more in common with Philly.

Bucks elected Mike Fitzpatrick and rid itself of Patrick Murphy in 2010 by about 20,000 votes, and delivered for Corbett and Toomey as well with overwhelming wins for state House and Senate candidates. Organization is much better coming off the 2010 cycle.

MontCo doesn't have much in common with Phila - it is actually has the second highest per capita income amongst counties of the Commonwealth and has part of the "Main Line" within it (think Randolph and Mortimer in Trading Places). I fear that the problem with MontCo is that it is too socially liberal to be "turnable" for even a moderate Republican Presidential candidate. By way of illustration, Arlen Spector used to do very well in MontCo.

The upside in Phila may be that the GOP has a new City Commissioner - Al Schmidt - whose office is to insure free and fair elections. He's unveiled a 27 page report on voting irregularities in Phila in the 2012 primaries alone.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at August 29, 2012 05:58 AM (mg08E)

119 The conventional wisdom on them is: union stiffs to a man. These are the people who will pull the lever for the D even though they are unemployed and on the dole, because that's what dad did. I don't know if this is still true, what with Bambi's stand on coal.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at August 29, 2012 09:53 AM (RD7QR)

Dont bet against it. The stupid is pretty strong with these people.

Posted by: Havedash at August 29, 2012 05:58 AM (BRhGr)

120 CAC, what's your take on Nate Silver's latest bit insisting "Michigan isn't a tossup." You can almost hear the dweeb muttering, "Incontheivable! Incontheiveable!" in the background as you read the piece. I mean... the guy is practically a Vizzini lookalike to begin with.

Posted by: dorian taupe at August 29, 2012 05:59 AM (IfM3l)

121 Juan Williams is coming up on FBN, Varney & Co. Varney lead in with the clip from last night when Juan called Ann Romney a 'corporate wife'.

Posted by: Tami at August 29, 2012 05:59 AM (X6akg)

122
# 85

You might want to point out to them that reservoirs are rarely below 500 feet, while fracturing occurs a mile down.

Done. I've also explained to them, and showed them the proof that the famous flaming tap water predated fracking in that area. I've also complained to the school about the teacher's willingness to push his political views on his students, instead of teaching science as he's paid to do.

I have another kid in his class this year, (starting in the second semester), and I'm ready if he pulls this crap again.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at August 29, 2012 06:00 AM (L7hol)

123 pfffft i was born and raised in metro pittsburgh (goddamn that area is SMALL) theyll go for obama, no doubt about it. although theyre the type of peeps whos ideology is CLEARLY right wing and conservative...they just cant help themselves and vote blue always.

i wouldnt get too excited.

Posted by: laughing at neck braces at August 29, 2012 06:00 AM (nVqtU)

124 Luzerne and Lackawanna Counties will remain solid blue. That is a True Fact though I'm wondering if all the abortion now stuff will have an impact. One nice thing -- I live in a suburban township that stubbornly remains red. Heh. I bet I know which one. Here's the important question, do you have the proper prefix for your phone number?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 29, 2012 06:00 AM (VtjlW)

125 So all you PA folks, I see the posts about fracking. What about Big Coal, are not those PA folks ready to figuratively lynch JEF? Coal hasn't been a big thing in PA since the 50's. Hard coal is dead though though there's still a good bit of soft coal mining in western PA. As noted above, those miners are union drones. There is a glimmer of hope, though. This is the first election in decades, if not ever, that the UMW hasn't endorsed a candidate.

Posted by: Ed Anger at August 29, 2012 06:00 AM (tOkJB)

126 On the Delco/Montgomery border, the only Bammy stickers I see are on jeeps and kias from the college kids, or left over from 2008. Not on soccer moms' Volvos, not on cars on the predominantly black streets near here. No yard signs, altho maybe it's just too early for that. My 24 year old son reports that while his friends won't vote for Romney, they're not going to vote for the SCOAMF either. But another couple of months living in their parents' basements--where they all, including my son, reside--might swing them in a rightward direction.

Posted by: dulce at August 29, 2012 06:00 AM (Okd5n)

127 "ThereÂ’s a normal and correct tendency for a news outfit not to want to make itself into the story. But this goes way beyond that and puts CNN in an exquisitely awkward position. CNN has been bending over backwards of late trying to position itself as the last holy beacon of objectivity and fairness in cable news, as Fox and MSNBC play to more clearly partisan audiences. Meanwhile, theyÂ’re under almost constant assault from conservatives for alleged (and basically mythical) liberal bias." http://tinyurl.com/8c4we6d I find this difficult to believe, republicans just don't behave that way. This is the final statement in an article about two convention attendees throwing something at a black camera person and saying something horrific.

Posted by: cynder ella at August 29, 2012 06:01 AM (oZfic)

128

DaveA:

At Breezewood I-70 and I-76 split at a turnpike exit. It was always planned to be an interchange, but Penna. politicians have seen to it that you still have to drive through the town of Breezewood to get to I-70, availing yourself of the dining, lodging and shopping opportunities of course.

I can't think of another place on the national system quite the same.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 29, 2012 06:01 AM (l3vZN)

129

"As for Rasmussen's daily I find it interesting as all the other pollsters are finding the race tighter/moving to Romney his polling has become the odd-man-out. Obama had a good weekend of sampling, if the numbers switch back it is because a) those rolled off the average and b) Romney has started to see a convention bounce. Time will tell with that.

Posted by: CAC at August 29, 2012 09:15 AM (J696i) "

I think that Rasmussen had either some terrible sampling over the weekend Saturday and Sunday favoring Obama or he may have adjusted his overall party ID sampling of D/R/I to be slightly favoring the democrats. Sunday poll by Rasmussen would still be included in the tracking poll released today.

Posted by: mnjg at August 29, 2012 06:02 AM (e3hs8)

130 Thanks, havedash and joncelli, I was hoping the WV voting for a felon in prison over Obama in the primary was translating elsewhere to a Big Coal backlash. The Union Yoke is heavy and not many throw it off. I think some of them actually believe the Union will somehow "magically see" their vote and count it against them.

Posted by: Will Be Taking Applications and Assimilating The Love-slaves at August 29, 2012 06:02 AM (kXoT0)

131

Romney needs to win 19% of Obama "White Voters" from 2008 in Pennsylvaniain order to win this state...

___

The Romney/Ryan ticket is well positioned to capture this group. It would be a much tougher sell if Santorum were at the top of the ticket. Ryan said in a local interview that they intend to win PA, so maybe their internal polling is that good. I hope so.

Posted by: kallisto at August 29, 2012 06:02 AM (jm/9g)

132 He's unveiled a 27 page report on voting irregularities in Phila in the 2012 primaries alone.

I've been assured by a meatspace former friend that vote fraud is "0.0000whatever% of the vote" and the only reason anyone would try to make an election fair by verifying voters are citizens who reside in the district is because they hate poor people.

If I still lived in MKE, I'd drive over to her precinct 7am Nov 6 and give the poll workers her name.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 29, 2012 06:03 AM (/kI1Q)

133 Regarding Rasmussen tracking ... Obama was up 3 two days ago, 2 yesterday and 1 today. It's swinging back to Romney as it has lately as you get past the weekend. Romney will probably be up 1 tomorrow.

Posted by: Honey the Badger Tibialis at August 29, 2012 06:04 AM (GvYeG)

134 113 Breezewood. The one part of the Interstate Highway System that will never, ever, be finished. I'm not sure what you meant? Posted by: DaveA at August 29, 2012 09:55 AM (Ve9V9) Look it up on Wiki -- they explain it pretty well.

Posted by: Ed Anger at August 29, 2012 06:04 AM (tOkJB)

135 121 Juan Williams is coming up on FBN, Varney Co. Varney lead in with the clip from last night when Juan called Ann Romney a 'corporate wife'.

Posted by: Tami at August 29, 2012 09:59 AM (X6akg)

I'd love to have seen what went down between Juan and Megan Kelly last night during the break that followed his put-down of Mrs Romney. Juan was a classless ass. I bet Megan kicked him in his micro-nads.

Posted by: Havedash at August 29, 2012 06:05 AM (BRhGr)

136
I'd love to have seen what went down between Juan and Megan Kelly last night during the break that followed his put-down of Mrs Romney. Juan was a classless ass. I bet Megan kicked him in his micro-nads.

Posted by: Havedash at August 29, 2012 10:05 AM (BRhGr)

Varney is trying to get Juan to walk his comment from last night back. Of course, Juan is doubling down.

Posted by: Tami at August 29, 2012 06:06 AM (X6akg)

137 Purely anecdotal - I know some active Dems in Chester County who were gung-ho about Obama in 2008. Nary a sticker or lawn sign in sight this time around. So I'm hopeful.

Posted by: votermom at August 29, 2012 06:06 AM (mztJC)

138

I think PA is fools gold.

Sen Casey (No Show Job) is ahead in the polls by 15-19%

PA is the 2nd oldest state behind FL.

The Mediscare tactics work here.

Posted by: Jay at August 29, 2012 06:07 AM (3LaGb)

139 Ok, now Charles Payne is taking a 2 x 4 to Juan's head.

Posted by: Tami at August 29, 2012 06:07 AM (X6akg)

140 Varney is trying to get Juan to walk his comment from last night back. Of course, Juan is doubling down. Posted by: Tami at August 29, 2012 10:06 AM (X6akg) Stupid is as stupid does.

Posted by: Forrest Gump: at August 29, 2012 06:08 AM (136wp)

141 Heh. I bet I know which one. Here's the important question, do you have the proper prefix for your phone number? Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 29, 2012 10:00 AM (VtjlW) I don't understand your question. I live south of Wilkes-Barre and north of Hazleton. If you're familiar with that area you'll figure it out.

Posted by: Ed Anger at August 29, 2012 06:08 AM (tOkJB)

142 I was told that Juan made the comment, they yelled at him, went to break and then he magically changed into peggy noonan when they came back?

Posted by: cynder ella at August 29, 2012 06:08 AM (oZfic)

143

I think Romney has a better chance of taking WI, and MI than he does PA.

Though if PA isn't called by 10PM EST on election night, SCOAMF is finished.

Posted by: Jay at August 29, 2012 06:08 AM (3LaGb)

144
# 98

I lived in NEPA for years and years. Flaming water from methane would be far preferable to giardia from the beaver shit that got into the water supply.

I don't know about beaver shit...but the tap water in my area smells horrid....literally, it has an odor that reminds one of a septic tank, and tastes even worse. And for all that...I can't even light it on fire.

A reverse osmosis filter in the kitchen has fixed the taste/smell problems, at least for that tap. The filter cartridges have to be replaced about every month though...they clog up fast, and look amazingly disgusting when I pull them out. The smell however, (primary filter),...instant gag reflex.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at August 29, 2012 06:08 AM (L7hol)

145

One reason suburban Philly started to go Blue was that our local Republican committee kept coughing up god-awful candidates (e.g. Jon Fox) to the point where the electorate went for Marjorie Mergolies-Mezvinsky and, subsequently, was more open to voting for Dems in the larger elections.
Also, Rendell being Governor got more Philly suburbs people to vote Dem for statewide office. He's not running for office, so there's no statewide draw for people to vote 'Dem.'
_

Posted by: BumperStickerist at

-----

That is the one thing I don't like about the suburb counties. The local Republican put out awful candidates. I mean we lost the county seat (Montco) to Democrats because we had awful, awful, awful candidates

Posted by: David of PA at August 29, 2012 06:09 AM (tPdIW)

146 Varney just told Juan, "Don't ever make a comment like again that while looking directly at Megan Kelly."

Posted by: Tami at August 29, 2012 06:10 AM (X6akg)

147 So, what's up with Nooner? I see people on twitter bashing her. I can't stand her myself.

Posted by: Redd at August 29, 2012 06:11 AM (w062R)

148

Pennsylvania has a few unique qualities that deserve mention.

The population is old, as stated above, second only to Fla.

The population is by and large, native. Not many people move there compared to other states.

It has the highest rural population of any state.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 29, 2012 06:11 AM (l3vZN)

149 138 I think PA is fools gold. Sen Casey (No Show Job)is ahead in the polls by 15-19% PA is the 2nd oldest state behind FL. The Mediscare tactics work here. For a significant portion of the state, you are entirely correct.

Posted by: Ed Anger at August 29, 2012 06:11 AM (tOkJB)

150 For the record, I don't live in Pennsylvania. But I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express, in Breezewood of course.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 29, 2012 06:12 AM (l3vZN)

151 It has the highest rural population of any state.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 29, 2012 10:11 AM (l3vZN)

I did not know that, but it actually makes sense.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at August 29, 2012 06:13 AM (RD7QR)

152

PA has the 2nd largest quantity of guns only behind the great state of Texas.

Posted by: Jay at August 29, 2012 06:13 AM (3LaGb)

153 "The Romney/Ryan ticket is well positioned to capture this group. It would be a much tougher sell if Santorum were at the top of the ticket. Ryan said in a local interview that they intend to win PA, so maybe their internal polling is that good. I hope so.

Posted by: kallisto at August 29, 2012 10:02 AM (jm/9g) "

Do you really believe that they can get 19% of Obama "White Voters" in Pennsylvania in 2008 to switch and vote for them? I hope that you are right...

Posted by: mnjg at August 29, 2012 06:14 AM (e3hs8)

154 130 Thanks, havedash and joncelli, I was hoping the WV voting for a felon in prison over Obama in the primary was translating elsewhere to a Big Coal backlash. The Union Yoke is heavy and not many throw it off. I think some of them actually believe the Union will somehow "magically see" their vote and count it against them.

Posted by: Will Be Taking Applications and Assimilating The Love-slaves at August 29, 2012 10:02 AM (kXoT0)

I think the culture is slowly changing, but not fast enough. These people have been slaves to unions for so long that it's hard for them to break away and think for themselves. The time when unions served any valuable purpose at all to these people is long past, but it's still a cultural thing. They bleed dem. They've faught wars for their unions, literally. It's sad that people can still be manipulated like this. If you want to see 3rd world poverty, go to southern West Virginia. It's unbelievable.

Posted by: Havedash at August 29, 2012 06:14 AM (BRhGr)

155

"I've had more than one kid come home from school to inform me that fracking can cause tap water to become flammable."

Not to mention it can make you go blind...

Oh, you said "fracking"

Posted by: MM at August 29, 2012 06:14 AM (ZMhO7)

156 152
PA has the 2nd largest quantity of guns only behind the great state of Texas.

Posted by: Jay at August 29, 2012 10:13 AM (3LaGb)

That I believe. More hunters in PA than in any other state I've been in, Alaska included.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at August 29, 2012 06:15 AM (RD7QR)

157 O/T

How about Ann Romney's speech last night?

Was that a winner or what?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at August 29, 2012 06:16 AM (3ZjAP)

158 http://tinyurl.com/cklffzk

video was shot on board a Russian aircraft carrier. Watch the whole vid, payoff at 1:40.

Posted by: 13times at August 29, 2012 06:16 AM (h6XiD)

159 If they (the Dims) want to keep the state, make them fight for it. Period. R&R ought to hammer metro Philly in whatever manner is necessary to show those people they need to vote Romney.

Posted by: Miller at August 29, 2012 06:16 AM (KA6ls)

160 I don't understand your question. I live south of Wilkes-Barre and north of Hazleton. If you're familiar with that area you'll figure it out. Ahhh, I was thinking more northwest of Scranton. There's a borough there that is so snobby it matters whether you have xx7, xx6 or xx5 as the start to your home number.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 29, 2012 06:16 AM (VtjlW)

161 but Barky made his bitter, clinger remarks in PA in '08 (isn't that right?) & he commented elsewhere that his green sh*t policies would make electric rates "necessarily skyrocket".

so the PA people knew that he didn't care about Christianity, guns or coal.

& they still voted for him.

so why would they not vote for him now?

Posted by: kelley in virginia at August 29, 2012 06:16 AM (p3a8+)

162 @156

I printed several books in PA. One year one was delayed.

Plant closed for opening day of deer season.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at August 29, 2012 06:17 AM (3ZjAP)

163 Jinx the Cat,
I wasn't sure what you meant about construction not how Breezewood is layed out. Been there done that probably > 100 times. It does make a nice $ for PA. I don't go thru Thanksgiving/Christmas Eve rush nights so it's usually just a few minutes longer than a ramp depending on the lights and whether it's time to eat/pee/stretch.

Actually Eau Claire Wis was similar Interstate 9{4,0}? to Wis 53 but they bypassed it awhile ago.

Posted by: DaveA at August 29, 2012 06:17 AM (Ve9V9)

164 150 For the record, I don't live in Pennsylvania. But I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express, in Breezewood of course. Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 29, 2012 10:12 AM (l3vZN) The phone book for Breezewood is about 15 pages long. Almost nobody lives in Breezewood proper -- it's all hotels and truck stops. The place is really unique.

Posted by: Ed Anger at August 29, 2012 06:17 AM (tOkJB)

165 Hey, I know someone from Scranton! And it doesn't involve Dunder Mifflin, although it could.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at August 29, 2012 06:18 AM (UEEex)

166

Montco area resident checking in here. Curious, I was just talking last week about the absence of bumper stickers and signs in our area with a co-worker last week.

Posted by: Lonny Eckert at August 29, 2012 06:18 AM (p01VK)

167 Rasmussen has the race 46 - 45 Obama today. It's been within the margin of error for weeks and it is a likely voter poll. Obama often surges on the weekends and then falls back during the week, this week is no different. If you look at a Rasmussen trend line, Romney has posted consistently higher highs and Obama lower lows and if you look at it over time Romney has been ahead about 3/4 of the time. This is horrible for an incumbent who has had the money advantage for months. I don't think they are inconsistent at all.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 29, 2012 06:19 AM (TMB3S)

168 " 138
I think PA is fools gold.
Sen Casey (No Show Job)is ahead in the polls by 15-19%
PA is the 2nd oldest state behind FL.
The Mediscare tactics work here.

Posted by: Jay at August 29, 2012 10:07 AM (3LaGb) "

No, he Mediscare tactics do not work among Seniors anywhere in the country and polls after polls prove it...

The problem with Pennsylvania is the "White Suburbs" around Philadelphia have been trending democrats/liberals for a while... That is where the elections are won or lost...

Posted by: mnjg at August 29, 2012 06:19 AM (e3hs8)

169 The bitter clinger remarks were made in San Francisco about folks in Western PA who did not support Obama. Philly burbs are not clinging.

Posted by: Golan Globus at August 29, 2012 06:19 AM (/1U3u)

170 From my perspective, it's a bit depressing thinking how precarious this all really is. Hanging by a thread, looking for promising signs of enough counties flipping to flip a state.....times how many states? I'm impatient in wanting to see what should be blowout numbers against the JEF. Not much will change in the next 70plus days. If things are this tight, with all the shit that's happened to this country in the last 4 years.....let's just say it doesn't leave me feeling comfortable. Fucktards plus leeches plus America-hating commies plus voter fraud all playing into the mix. I really want to feel some happy, happy, joy, joy about now.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 29, 2012 06:19 AM (lTVJy)

171

Another interesting thing about Penna. is that they were ahead of the the other states on some pretty massive expenditures.

The Pennsylvania Turnpike was America's first, long before massive Federal funding. Likewise the extensive network of State Game Lands was a response to the almost total deforestation of the early 20th century.

Later, other states did similar projects using Federal help.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 29, 2012 06:19 AM (l3vZN)

172 I actually loved growing up in suburban Philly, and if they ever fix the horrible med-mal situation there and I can convince Mrs. Crank to do so, I'd gladly move back to PA. Alas, she has her heart set on moving South some day, probably Savannah, so I'll likely have to content myself with vacations back instead.

Posted by: Conservative Crank, at work at August 29, 2012 06:20 AM (sQ0LB)

173 this same argument can be made for Illinois. R&R should be able to own everything outside of Cook county. A strong ad campaign in Cook reminding dems of broken promises wouldn't hurt.

Posted by: assassin at August 29, 2012 06:20 AM (6uxlE)

174

Got a forwarded email from the dad yesterday, a Move On dot org fundraising letter (send $5 pleeeeease). In it they state that with registered voters, O'Barky's up by 9 and will win in a landslide. BUT, with likely voters he's only up by 2 so including the margin of error it's YIKES time. So, with the help of unions, etc. they're going after UNLIKELY voters to drag the O's carcass into the win.

Unlikely voters. Maybe mental hospitals this time? Well, along with all the dead folks and such.

Posted by: joanne likes the kilt idea at August 29, 2012 06:20 AM (VNFBf)

175 167 JackStraw,

Thanks Jack I am aware of the trendline thus far I am just curious as to the magic cookie dough he uses and whether or not structural strengths and weakness can be gleaned.

We'll see what effect the ad bombing has.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 29, 2012 06:21 AM (LRFds)

176 Well, if anyone can sway PA, it's gonna be Catholic Deer Hunter Guy.

Posted by: votermom at August 29, 2012 06:21 AM (mztJC)

177 PA has been the Fool's Gold of Republicans for years. Stop doing it

Posted by: Zakn at August 29, 2012 06:22 AM (zyaZ1)

178

"Go big ot go home."

Unh unh, bitter clinger...four more yearshs.

Posted by: Barack hushsein Obama at August 29, 2012 06:22 AM (QjSgY)

179

time to work, bye all.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 29, 2012 06:22 AM (l3vZN)

180 I printed several books in PA. One year one was delayed. Plant closed for opening day of deer season. Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at August 29, 2012 10:17 AM (3ZjAP) Most schools are also closed on the first day of deer season. A lot of people don't know the real reason why -- the bus drivers insist on getting the day off in their contracts.

Posted by: Ed Anger at August 29, 2012 06:23 AM (tOkJB)

181 "The population is by and large, native. Not many people move there compared to other states."

Eh - part of the issue in Bucks County in the recent decade or so has been people from New Jersey moving to Bucks to avoid the tax burden only to vote in a manner which would make Bucks more like the New Jersey that they left. Plenty of people can and do commute from Bucks to NYC - my mother's neighbor moved to Bucks from L.I. because, he claimed, his commute was shorter. With the increase in "telecommuting" this has been an ongoing problem.

I have heard similar sentiments about parts of the Northeast part of the state and Northern New Jersey and New York.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at August 29, 2012 06:25 AM (mg08E)

182 146 Varney just told Juan, "Don't ever make a comment like again that while looking directly at Megan Kelly."

Posted by: Tami at August 29, 2012 10:10 AM (X6akg)

What an ignorant tool Juan is. These people have no shame whatsoever. They have sold their souls. "Shame" - that's really what's missing in today's world, isn't it? These people have no shame and any time they get a small glimpse of their true self in a mirror, they must immediately fight against it to keep from showing any shame. Put shame into the formula of the garbage we see from the left and it all makes perfect sense in every way. Sandra Fluk for example.

Posted by: Havedash at August 29, 2012 06:25 AM (BRhGr)

183 Plant closed for opening day of deer season. That happened where I grew up in MI as well. In fact, I found it odd that there were places that the opening day of deer season wasn't considered a holiday. That's also one of the strangest things to get used to now that I've moved down South. There aren't deer carcasses on the side of the road every quarter mile or so and driving at night isn't an exciting game of Miss That Deer! A few months back a bear wandered close to a city by me and it was the lead local news story for three days. I was all dude look that's like Newswatch 16's last story "Oh hey a bear was wandering through downtown WB again today, watch as they tranq it out of a tree! Now it's time for Talkback 16!"

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 29, 2012 06:25 AM (VtjlW)

184

i am from the montgomery county area. every time i go home i am amazed at the lack of obama support.

also, didn't bucks go red in the 2010 elections?

Posted by: jd at August 29, 2012 06:25 AM (zqg7o)

185 sven- Rasmussen is one of the few pollsters that factors in party affiliation as a weighting factor. They are very transparent and tend to be amongst the straightest shooters. They nailed '08, unfortunately. One thing to bear in mind regarding PA. There are new ID laws in effect that will take a lot of phony voters off the roles. Philly and other Dem strongholds will be hardest hit. Polls don't take that into account.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 29, 2012 06:26 AM (TMB3S)

186 69 days until Election Day -- one day short of 10 weeks.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at August 29, 2012 06:26 AM (RD7QR)

187 so the PA people knew that he didn't care about Christianity, guns or coal.

they still voted for him.

so why would they not vote for him now?

Posted by: kelley in virginia at August 29, 2012 10:16 AM (p3a8+)

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Because they thought he was just sayin'stuff and found out he was doin' stuff, too?

Posted by: 66chevelle at August 29, 2012 06:28 AM (QjSgY)

188 What did Juan Williams say to Megyn Kelly?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 29, 2012 06:29 AM (z/Nqu)

189 Bin Laden apparently was hit in the head when he looked out of his bedroom door into the top-floor hallway of his compound as SEALs rushed up a narrow stairwell in his direction, according to former Navy SEAL Matt Bissonnette, writing under the pseudonym Mark Owen in Â“No Easy Day.Â” The book is to be published next week by Penguin Group (USA)Â’s Dutton imprint.

Bissonnette says he was directly behind a Â“point manÂ” going up the stairs. Â“Less than five stepsÂ” from top of the stairs, he heard Â“suppressedÂ” gunfire: Â“BOP. BOP.Â” The point man had seen a Â“man peeking out of the doorÂ” on the right side of the hallway.

The author writes that bin Laden ducked back into his bedroom and the SEALs followed, only to find the terrorist crumpled on the floor in a pool of blood with a hole visible on the right side of his head and two women wailing over his body.

OMG ... even the leaks are crap

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at August 29, 2012 06:29 AM (e8kgV)

190 so why would they not vote for him now?

Posted by: kelley in virginia at August 29, 2012 10:16 AM (p3a8+)

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Because their homes have lost 20-40% value since 2008 and many are underwater?

Because the unemployment rate in eleven PA counties is over 9%?

Because PA college grads with advanced degrees have to settle for jobs at Starbucks and can't move out of their parents' home?

Posted by: kallisto at August 29, 2012 06:30 AM (jm/9g)

191 The key nationwide is to force the Democrats to defend "blue states" rather than allowing them to force Republicans to defend "red states."

That, in general, is what's happening, and after the Convention when Romney/Ryan is finally able to spend their warchest, it will just get worse for the Democrats.

Stout heart, everyone.

Posted by: filbert at August 29, 2012 06:31 AM (smvTK)

192 188 What did Juan Williams say to Megyn Kelly?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 29, 2012 10:29 AM (z/Nqu)

Â“Mitt RomneyÂ’s wife, Ann Romney, on the other hand looked to me like a corporate wife. And you know the stories she told about struggle, eh, itÂ’s hard for me to believe. SheÂ’s a very rich woman and I know that and America knows that.Â”

Posted by: Tami at August 29, 2012 06:32 AM (X6akg)

193 188 What did Juan Williams say to Megyn Kelly?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 29, 2012 10:29 AM (z/Nqu)

"Please don't hurt me like the last time."

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at August 29, 2012 06:33 AM (RD7QR)

194 What about Erie, PA up there on the lake between Buffalo and Cleveland? It's fairly conservative blue collar ethnic. Will it go red?

Posted by: I denounce all of you retroactively and forevermore at August 29, 2012 06:33 AM (YQHqe)

195 I live in Hudson County, NJ - right outside NYC, deep blue and super corrupt. Our neighborhood is pretty ethnic (mostly Hispanic, then black, with remaining white/Indian/middle eastern). I've seen two bumper stickers and one window sign so far... All for Romney! I have a feeling about NJ... Most of the annoying liberals my husband and I work with in NYC live in CT or NY, so there's that...

Posted by: Rochelle, Rochelle at August 29, 2012 06:34 AM (RL07x)

196 The key nationwide is to force the Democrats to defend "blue states" rather than allowing them to force Republicans to defend "red states."

That, in general, is what's happening, and after the Convention when Romney/Ryan is finally able to spend their warchest, it will just get worse for the Democrats.

Stout heart, everyone.

Posted by: filbert at August 29, 2012 10:31 AM (smvTK)

Exactly, they have been running obama ads against Romney all summer here and they have no chance whatsoever of winning Oklahoma. The only reason that I can see for that is that they want to force Romney to spend money here.

Posted by: Will Be Taking Applications and Assimilating The Love-slaves at August 29, 2012 06:34 AM (kXoT0)

197 Juan Williams is a rich man. Why does he fault Ann Romney for having a rich husband?

Posted by: Redd at August 29, 2012 06:35 AM (w062R)

198 Sorry Rochelle, NJ truly is a lost cause. I wouldn't waste a dime there if I were Romney/Ryan.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at August 29, 2012 06:35 AM (RD7QR)

199 There's something to be said for all the traditionally Blue States which now have Republican Governors- MI, WI, and NJ, just off the top of my head. Not that it's completely predictive, but it's a good indication that the people of those States are starting to wise up to what the Democrat Party is really all about.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 29, 2012 06:36 AM (8y9MW)

200 so why would they not vote for him now?
Posted by: kelley in virginia at August 29, 2012 10:16 AM (p3a8+)
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A lot of the idiots in the middle got swept up in the hype that the guy was magical. He was making incredible claims (he could make the seas recede) and no one in the MBM was saying "hey, wait a minute, what has this guy ever done that would demonstrate that he is competent, let alone magical?"

I think Romney's best shot is for the swing voter who voted for Obama against his gut because of the false and now broken promise that Obama was a multi-talented wunderkind who could fix the economy with his magical powers.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at August 29, 2012 06:36 AM (mg08E)

201 You know, I'm starting to think the Media is on the side of the Democrats.

Posted by: eman at August 29, 2012 06:36 AM (Wp4rQ)

202 I still remember reading the reports from HillBuzz about how PA was going to go for McCain.

Yeah, no. I'm not going to believe PA will go red until about 10PM on 11/6/12.

And I cast a very wary eye toward anything Kevin says since then; gotta lot of trust to build back.

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 29, 2012 06:37 AM (imtbm)

203 Â“Mitt RomneyÂ’s wife, Ann Romney, on the other
hand looked to me like a corporate wife. And you know the stories she
told about struggle, eh, itÂ’s hard for me to believe. SheÂ’s a very rich
woman and I know that and America knows that.Â”

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I can't tell you how that angers me. Juan is a useful, useless idiot bastard.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 29, 2012 06:37 AM (lTVJy)

204 Can we persuade Santorum to mobilize the Amish Mafia to counteract any hooliganism the NBPP will undoubtedly effectuate at the polls?

Posted by: Fritz at August 29, 2012 06:37 AM (/ZZCn)

205 Juan Williams is a rich man. Why does he fault Ann Romney for having a rich husband? Posted by: Redd at August 29, 2012 10:35 AM

He's jealous. He wants one, too.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 29, 2012 06:38 AM (wZI4b)

206 He's jealous. He wants one, too.

NTTAWWT

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 29, 2012 06:39 AM (8y9MW)

207 "the battle for the Keystone comes down to four counties in the southeast: Bucks, Montgomery, Delaware, and Chester"

Absolutely correct, and it has always been so. Do not forget that in 2010 we got rid of Sestak (D), gained Toomey (R-Senate) and Corbett (R-Governor). In my little Delco Township the couple of D's we had in local positions were ousted, and we gained an R-House seat. 2012 Pennsylvania is not 2008 Pennsylvania.

I'll know more when I do my October trip through Delaware and Montgomery counties and count the *lawn* signs. (Not the highway signs. They're a bogus indicator as both sides pay people to put them out.)

This past weekend the Phila. Inquirer had a poll saying Obama was up by 9 points in PA. Not.Going.To.Happen. Obama may indeed win Pennsylvania but it will be a LOT closer than that.

Posted by: littleoldlady at August 29, 2012 06:39 AM (5SATI)

208 It appears that Juan Williams is also married to a stay-at-home wife. Since he has had a career in big media corporations, isn't Mrs. Williams a corporate wifey too?

Posted by: TooCon at August 29, 2012 06:39 AM (IhOc6)

209 I have heard similar sentiments about parts of the Northeast part of the state... True -- we had a massive influx of New Jerseyites starting in the 90's. Funny thing -- 99% of them are assholes.

Posted by: Ed Anger at August 29, 2012 06:40 AM (tOkJB)

210 It appears that Juan Williams is also married to a stay-at-home wife. Since he has had a career in big media corporations, isn't Mrs. Williams a corporate wifey too? Posted by: TooCon

Beatch is lucky. Heh.

Posted by: Juan "Who's Yo Daddy?" Williams at August 29, 2012 06:41 AM (R18D0)

211 Juan has said several times that his children are Republicans. Gee, I wonder why.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at August 29, 2012 06:41 AM (UEEex)

212 Juan Williams is a rich man. Why does he fault Ann Romney for having a rich husband?

Is "rich" is a coded racist dog whistle for "white"? Juan's been told all his life that people with white skin have no problems--everything gets handed to white people, because white people run the place.

I hear this meme from my non-white California-raised cow-orkers a lot. Public schools steep kids in it.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 29, 2012 06:41 AM (/kI1Q)

213 Here's the video of Williams last night.

After Juan's comment, Bret Baier said, "Wow...ok"

Then Megan hit him with "What does that mean 'corporate wife'?!"

http://tinyurl.com/8l8cac2

Posted by: Tami at August 29, 2012 06:42 AM (X6akg)

214 See if you can get a handle on Obama's campaign schedule in the weeks after Labor Day. If he's in any of these four counties, than we may be able to take them. If not, then his internals are telling him that they are in the bag.

Posted by: section9 at August 29, 2012 06:42 AM (CUoon)

215 Sorry Rochelle, NJ truly is a lost cause. I wouldn't waste a dime there if I were Romney/Ryan. Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at August 29, 2012 10:35 AM (RD7QR) I would spend just enough money in NJ to make the Democrats waste their money there and to influence folks in neighboring States that have a chance to turn red.

Posted by: eman at August 29, 2012 06:42 AM (Wp4rQ)

216 True -- we had a massive influx of New Jerseyites starting in the 90's. Funny thing -- 99% of them are assholes.

Posted by: Ed Anger at August 29, 2012 10:40 AM (tOkJB)

Hey! Who da f**k you callin' an asshole, eh?

Posted by: Obligatory New Jersey caricature comment at August 29, 2012 06:42 AM (RD7QR)

217 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 29, 2012 10:25 AM (VtjlW)

I've had to stop for dear herds crossing the road in front of me many times here in SC. Particulalry around federal or State lands where hunting them is prohibited. They seem to gather in those areas for some reason.

The herds are way over populated. The problem where I live is there is just too damn many people in the county making it hard to hunt dear. People have just about quit hunting dear here.

I always liked dove hunting myself but all the land for hunting them is posted now unless I shoot them in my front yard.

Posted by: Vic at August 29, 2012 06:44 AM (YdQQY)

218 I was watching C_SPAN2 late last night and they had Issacson taking about his "Steve Jobs" book. One great story he told was about Steve Jobs and Larry Ellison walking on a beach back in 1995.

Steve Jobs was talking about how he wanted to go back to Apple and right the company for just "$1 a year" to prove it could be done. Larry Ellison said that he could buy Apple and put Steve back in charge. Steve said it wasn't necessary, but Larry said "then how are we going to make any money on it ?"

Steve grabbed Larry Ellison by the shoulders and said "This is why I'm your friend. You don't need any more money."

Moral of the story. Most "rich" folks don't know that they are "rich."

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at August 29, 2012 06:45 AM (e8kgV)

219 See if you can get a handle on Obama's campaign schedule in the weeks after Labor Day. If he's in any of these four counties, than we may be able to take them. If not, then his internals are telling him that they are in the bag.

I don't know that to be true. It could just be that even the light-worker can only be in so many places in one day.

Is "rich" is a coded racist dog whistle for "white"?

I don't think so. I think it's part of the Democrat meme that the Romneys can't relate to "real" Americans. If you don't mind donning your hazmat suit, go read Ross Douthat's piece of work at the NYT.

I think this is their play- Mitt Romney is too aloof, and he looks at "common" people like peons, etc.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 29, 2012 06:45 AM (8y9MW)

220 I think this is their play- Mitt Romney is too aloof, and he looks at "common" people like peons, etc.

...ascribing Barack Obama's beliefs to Mitt?

We'll see how that works.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 29, 2012 06:48 AM (/kI1Q)

221 Michelle Malkin is nuts. She was freaking out yesterday on Twitter about the GOP rule changes and it was just getting real annoying. So I wrote, "You're getting less and less relevant each day." I guess that pissed her off. You know how to prove you're relevant? Replying to some random dude with less than 200 followers, and tweeting his profile so that guy gets a bunch of angry tweets from your dozens of fans. Point taken, I guess.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at August 29, 2012 06:48 AM (caAEA)

222 In poll after poll after poll, the number 1 issue by far is the economy. Not abortion and not wymens issues. They barely move the needle and yet the entire focus of the Dem convention will be about Sandra Fluke getting free condoms. Any state where Obama is polling less than 50% is worth playing for even if just to force Obama to play there. What exactly does Obama have to run on? He's tried to kill Romney for the last 3 months and it didn't work. The economy isn't getting any better before Nov. 6 and that is what most people will ultimately vote on and Obama is polling very poorly on the economy. Fear not. This isn't '08 and Romney is not McCain.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 29, 2012 06:48 AM (TMB3S)

223 "See if you can get a handle on Obama's campaign schedule in the weeks after Labor Day. If he's in any of these four counties, than we may be able to take them. If not, then his internals are telling him that they are in the bag."

They've been sending Michelle and Joe from Scantron somewhere in the collar counties every other week or so.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at August 29, 2012 06:49 AM (mg08E)

224

Posted by: Jay Bee at August 29, 2012 09:22 AM (6W8+

Posted by: Havedash at August 29, 2012 09:35 AM (BRhGr)

The Jumah prayer never happened unless someone on our side is there to get good video, and a superPAC with balls, skill and money turns it into a campaign ad. Who is Breitbart?

Bureau of Indigenous Muslim Affairs, wannabe UN NGO. mmm, mmm, mmmm.

Posted by: 66chevelle at August 29, 2012 06:49 AM (QjSgY)

225 Maybe the republicans should have a dress down day at the convention and have mitt come out for his acceptance speech in jeans and a casual shirt.....

Posted by: cynder ella at August 29, 2012 06:49 AM (oZfic)

226 I would spend just enough money in NJ to make the Democrats waste their money there and to influence folks in neighboring States that have a chance to turn red. This. It's not so much playing to win as it is playing to make the other guy have to spend money so it can't be spent elsewhere. I wonder if anyone has broken it to the JEF that he can't simply run the printing presses for his campaign and that there is a limit to the money that he can spend.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 29, 2012 06:50 AM (VtjlW)

227 Well, this should be Moron Approved.

http://fxn.ws/O2VqKc

Because I'm a giver.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 29, 2012 06:50 AM (8y9MW)

228 I guess that pissed her off. You know how to prove you're relevant? Replying to some random dude with less than 200 followers, and tweeting his profile so that guy gets a bunch of angry tweets from your dozens of fans.

Point taken, I guess.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at August 29, 2012 10:48 AM (caAEA)

She's got a nasty tendency to overreact. It's not appealing.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at August 29, 2012 06:51 AM (RD7QR)

229 "The herds are way over populated. The problem where I live is there is just too damn many people in the county making it hard to hunt dear. People have just about quit hunting dear here."

Posted by: Vic at August 29, 2012 10:44 AM (YdQQY)

In our area of Michigan we have bow, muzzle loader and rifle seasons, but our town still had to hire shooters to thin the herd in the parks. My wife is about to declare pistol season on the ones eating all her shrubs in the yard.

Posted by: jwest at August 29, 2012 06:51 AM (ZDsRL)

230

Posted by: Alec Leamas at August 29, 2012 10:49 AM (mg08E)

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Yup. Guess the donks are counting on St. Michelle of the Toned Arms to save them in our neck of the woods.

Posted by: kallisto at August 29, 2012 06:51 AM (jm/9g)

231 Juan Williams is a millionaire. Democrat millionaires rely on decades of Democrat propaganda to insulate them from obvious hypocrisy when they complain about rich people. Voting is in some ways the ultimate test of intelligence, decency. awareness, and knowledge. If you vote for a Democrat, you fail the test. Except when you figured out how to ride on the Democrat train. Then you passed the test in part, but are a useless piece of shit.

Posted by: eman at August 29, 2012 06:51 AM (Wp4rQ)

232 You know I've been searching for info on Williams wife to see if she has a career. She just might have been one of those stay at home moms he insulted last night.

Posted by: cynder ella at August 29, 2012 06:52 AM (oZfic)

233 Steve grabbed Larry Ellison by the shoulders and said "This is why I'm your friend. You don't need any more money."

Larry does, however, need a new boat.

Posted by: fluffy the oracle at August 29, 2012 06:53 AM (z9HTb)

234 I get the go big thing, but not for PA, huge waste of money. Time to stop courting them, and have them come to us. Even the young boy knows not to continue to chase the girl that completely ignores him other than the occasional "get the hell away from me".

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 29, 2012 06:53 AM (CrOSO)

235 230: She really is getting irrelevant. It's only natural to be upset about it. She's not a leading voice anymore.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at August 29, 2012 06:55 AM (caAEA)

236 OMG, my husband works for a corporation!

Posted by: Juan's Wife at August 29, 2012 06:56 AM (CrOSO)

237 Vic, I let sensible people hunt dove on my land if they ask permission. Try introducing yourself during the off-season.

Posted by: texette at August 29, 2012 06:56 AM (uIz80)

238 Anyone else hear about the bullshit rumor that some GOP attendee threw peanuts at a black CNN camerawoman and said, "this is how we feed animals"?? No names given, of course.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at August 29, 2012 06:57 AM (caAEA)

239 In our area of Michigan we have bow, muzzle loader and rifle seasons, but our town still had to hire shooters to thin the herd in the parks. My wife is about to declare pistol season on the ones eating all her shrubs in the yard. Posted by: jwest at August 29, 2012 10:51 AM (ZDsRL) In Western MA and CT deer are everywhere. They munch on suburban lawns and shrubbery at night, unnoticed. They are like Dracula: they disappear during the day and feed at night.

Posted by: eman at August 29, 2012 06:59 AM (Wp4rQ)

240 Yup. Guess the donks are counting on St. Michelle of the Toned Arms to save them in our neck of the woods.

Posted by: kallisto at August 29, 2012 10:51 AM (jm/9g)

Ima hope that backfires big time with the people who have lost jobs, homes, and savings during obama's tenure while Moochilli behaved like the worst of the worst bratty super-rich Eurotrash without ever spending her own money.

Posted by: Will Be Taking Applications and Assimilating The Love-slaves at August 29, 2012 06:59 AM (kXoT0)

241 240 Anyone else hear about the bullshit rumor that some GOP attendee threw peanuts at a black CNN camerawoman and said, "this is how we feed animals"??
No names given, of course.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at August 29, 2012 10:57 AM (caAEA)

Any such complaint in a political context (or on a college campus) needs to be taken with a block of salt. It's just too damn convenient.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at August 29, 2012 07:00 AM (RD7QR)

242 >>iowahawkblog I'd rather have a corporate wife than a government prostitute.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 29, 2012 07:00 AM (TMB3S)

243 Since you're still here Alextc, about that "3" comment: Ahem puts on best Duke voice Now look here little sister, I've read here that you are a petite little thing that could "fit in my pocket". That right there makes you a baseline 5. Add in the intelligence, quick wit and sense of humor I read in your posts, 8.5. Halfling warrior that loves freedom, 9.95, and that's from the east german judge. Do I even need to throw in the stompy boots? So I'll hear no more about this 3 nonsense. Now I hope I've made myself clear.

Posted by: teej at August 29, 2012 07:01 AM (K4AdI)

244

"iowahawkblog I'd rather have a corporate wife than a government prostitute."

or a composite girlfriend

Posted by: 66chevelle at August 29, 2012 07:01 AM (QjSgY)

245 I live and work in Bucks County, PA and I would bet my house Romney is going to win here. I think he's got a great chance to win Chester County, not sure about Delaware County. Montgomery County has it's conservative pockets but I would say Obama has the edge there.

Posted by: Devon at August 29, 2012 07:02 AM (W3qq0)

246 Gabe put a link up yesterday (in the sidebar) for a fund to help the family of Isabella Tennant, the five year old girl that was found murdered on Monday. The family needs all the help they can get.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at August 29, 2012 07:02 AM (caAEA)

247 97 Based on my elections Prediction model and if I assume that 3% of Obama 2008 voters in Pennsylvaniastay home in 2012, Romney needs to win 19% of Obama "White Voters" from 2008 in Pennsylvaniain order to win this state... That is a very difficult task... Not impossible but very difficult...

Posted by: mnjg at August 29, 2012 09:47 AM (e3hs

This analysis seems flawed. You seem to be assuming electorate will be the same as 2008, aside from 3% of Obama voters staying home, while hoping Romney wins back 19% of Obama's voters.

The big omission you're making is people who did not turn out in 2008 for whatever reason. How many were there and how many might Mitt bring to the polls?

Posted by: Uncledave at August 29, 2012 07:02 AM (nJ32z)

248 In Western MA and CT deer are everywhere. They munch on suburban lawns and shrubbery at night, unnoticed. They are like Dracula: they disappear during the day and feed at night.

Posted by: eman at August 29, 2012 10:59 AM (Wp4rQ)

I'm in SW CT and they don't disappear here during the day. They're out and they're proud! Mofo's laugh at me when I try to chase them away.

Posted by: Tami at August 29, 2012 07:02 AM (X6akg)

249 In Western MA and CT deer are everywhere. They munch on suburban lawns and shrubbery at night, unnoticed. They are like Dracula: they disappear during the day and feed at night.

Posted by: eman at August 29, 2012 10:59 AM (Wp4rQ)

The deer are bad here, but the turkeys are worse. They will walk out in the road and just stand there, oblivious to your car and horn, until they feel like moving.

Posted by: jwest at August 29, 2012 07:02 AM (ZDsRL)

250 Quoting Jumbo Shrimp: "Meh.. PA will go for Obama... but.. If Romney forces SCOAMF to spend money he doesnt have there.. all the better."

I agree with JS. PA will (barely) go Jug Ears. But, if Obama has to fight for votes in his normally guaranteed states like PA, he can't do as much in the swing states.

And PA's Voter ID thing will discriminate against the zombie vote, making it even more difficult for the Dems.

Posted by: Mr_Write at August 29, 2012 07:03 AM (VJUQK)

251 Also what supports your assumption that 3% of Obama voters will stay home?

Posted by: Uncledave at August 29, 2012 07:04 AM (nJ32z)

252 The deer are bad here, but the turkeys are worse. They will walk out in the road and just stand there, oblivious to your car and horn, until they feel like moving.

Posted by: jwest at August 29, 2012 11:02 AM (ZDsRL)

Stupid creatures, turkeys, but tasty. I think that works out well.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at August 29, 2012 07:05 AM (RD7QR)

253 Vic, I let sensible people hunt dove on my land if they ask permission. Try introducing yourself during the off-season.

Posted by: texette at August 29, 2012 10:56 AM (uIz80)

There used to be one farmer that let me hunt on his land but he died. Almost all of them now lease the hunting rights to clubs for extra money. The big wood companies do the same thing with their land.

Its all posted now. It's nothing like it was when I was young. And I refuse to join a club to hunt.

Posted by: Vic at August 29, 2012 07:05 AM (YdQQY)

254 On deer hunting. I live in Minnesota farm country lots of deer and lots of hunters. Traffic on my quite dirt road triples during the hunting season. Saw a 16 yr old girl find her kill out my front window a couple seasons ago (didn't notice the deer in the ditch across the street but when the three pickups and entire hunting party showed up it got my attention). It was her first but with how proud she looked I'll bet not her last.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 29, 2012 07:06 AM (tf9Ne)

255 "This analysis seems flawed. You seem to be assuming electorate will be the same as 2008, aside from 3% of Obama voters staying home, while hoping Romney wins back 19% of Obama's voters.The big omission you're making is people who did not turn out in 2008 for whatever reason. How many were there and how many might Mitt bring to the polls?

Posted by: Uncledave at August 29, 2012 11:02 AM (nJ32z) "

In fact it is a conservative prediction model... not flawd but conservative... If Romney can bring more voters to the polls who sat out in 2008 to vote for him in 2012 then his chances of winning would enhance greatly.

Posted by: mnjg at August 29, 2012 07:06 AM (e3hs8)

256 112 88 Montgomery Bucks...so glad I moved away from there. Posted by: Politifarce ----- It's not that bad. I think they are pretty decent places to live. Posted by: David of PA at August 29, 2012 09:54 AM (tPdIW) Sure, it's not that bad, I agree. But I moved to Texas where I don't have to go to a liquor store for wine then a beer store for beer, I have two Republican Senators and a very Republican Representative. I also don't have to deal with snow or roving PennDOT crews. So, in my mind, yeah I'm glad I left. I do miss the scenery of Upper Bucks though. And cheesesteaks.

Posted by: DangerGirl at August 29, 2012 07:06 AM (pUAXu)

257 The deer are bad here, but the turkeys are worse. They will walk out in the road and just stand there, oblivious to your car and horn, until they feel like moving. Posted by: jwest at August 29, 2012 11:02 AM (ZDsRL) Turkeys are closely related to theropod dinosaurs. A few tweaks to their DNA here and there and you have badass mofo on your hands. And, yeah, they own the street.

Posted by: eman at August 29, 2012 07:07 AM (Wp4rQ)

258 My wife is about to declare pistol season on the ones eating all her shrubs in the yard.

My dad says the deer ring the doorbell to tell him the buffet is out of azaleas.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 29, 2012 07:08 AM (/kI1Q)

259 Its all posted now. It's nothing like it was when I was young. And I refuse to join a club to hunt. Posted by: Vic And don't hunt on the public GMAs, unless you want to die.

Posted by: toby928© Mobile Bay eyewitness account at August 29, 2012 07:08 AM (QupBk)

260 Sure, it's not that bad, I agree. But I moved to Texas where I don't have to go to a liquor store for wine then a beer store for beer, I have two Republican Senators and a very Republican Representative.

LOL, they do that here as well, except that at least you can get beer and wine in the grocery stores. In the county I grew up in you had to got to a beer store for beer and there were no liquor stores. You had to go to a different county and hope they were not watching the store at the county line and waiting for you to bring it back.

Posted by: Vic at August 29, 2012 07:10 AM (YdQQY)

261 We're crawling with deer here. Day before yesterday, a doe took a pee as she watched us sitting on our screened porch, and then calmly continued to munch on the azaleas. Had a cute little fawn, too.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 29, 2012 07:10 AM (UOM48)

262 Obama killed Bin Laden just as surely as Richard Nixon put men on the moon.

Posted by: George Wallace at August 29, 2012 07:11 AM (e8kgV)

263 I wonder if anyone has broken it to the JEF that he can't simply run the printing presses for his campaign and that there is a limit to the money that he can spend. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 29, 2012 10:50 AM (VtjlW) He still has billions of stimulus he can spend however the hell he wants. Run some ads about how awesome he is on MSNBC? Build a union hall? Whatever.

Posted by: Golan Globus at August 29, 2012 07:11 AM (/1U3u)

264 My dad says the deer ring the doorbell to tell him the buffet is out of azaleas.

Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ needs a beer at August 29, 2012 11:08 AM (/kI1Q)

LOL! That says it all. They are so brazen.

Posted by: Tami at August 29, 2012 07:11 AM (X6akg)

265 Too bad, Vic. Dove season opens here Saturday. I'll be thinking of you.

Posted by: texette at August 29, 2012 07:12 AM (hiMsy)

266 247 I live and work in Bucks County, PA and I would bet my house Romney is going to win here. I think he's got a great chance to win Chester County, not sure about Delaware County. Montgomery County has it's conservative pockets but I would say Obama has the edge there.

Posted by: Devon at August 29, 2012 11:02 AM (W3qq0)

I heard you all were infested with UFOs up there in Bucks County. It was on TV so it must be true.

Posted by: Havedash at August 29, 2012 07:12 AM (ToMJU)

267 Does the deer have a little doe ?
Certainly .. two bucks.

Posted by: Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine, Dr. Howard at August 29, 2012 07:12 AM (e8kgV)

268
LOL! That says it all. They are so brazen.

Also: tasty

Dang. Now I want some venison jerky.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 29, 2012 07:13 AM (8y9MW)

269 And don't hunt on the public GMAs, unless you want to die.

Posted by: toby928Â© Mobile Bay eyewitness account at August 29, 2012 11:08 AM (QupBk)

LOL, I used to feel that way about any deep woods in deer season, but like I said, people here have given t up from what I can tell.

I know a few people who book hunting tours out West, I have considered that a time or two but that is damned expensive.

Posted by: Vic at August 29, 2012 07:13 AM (YdQQY)

270 Joffren & Joncelli RE MM; Please, do tell me about your national media presence and your websites that expose the corruption on the left and right so I may give them a look.

Posted by: teej at August 29, 2012 07:13 AM (/BwGa)

271 Any state that can send Toomey to DC .. can sent Romney to DC.

Posted by: Debbie Weaselwords Schultz at August 29, 2012 07:13 AM (e8kgV)

272 Well, the outrageously outraged outrage that is coming from the left is the racistly racist racism of the Book of Mormon.

You see, a book originally meant to be read by 19th century folk used the common practice of the time to refer to the good guys with characteristics such as pure, clean, white, etc. and the bad guys as dirty, unclean, black, etc. You know, just like everyone else at the time did.

I guess they've never heard the phrase "black heart" or "black soul" and that it predates modern racism. Or that not a single pre-20th century painting of Jesus has him in brown or dark skin.

I didn't bother reading the whole article but, I suspect that they conveniently skipped over the part where the "dark, dirty, unclean" bad guys at the beginning become the "light, pure, clean" good guys at the end; making it pretty clear that the adjectives--which they will attempt to ascribe to pure racism--are more allegorical and illustrative of one's moral standing than their actual physical attributes.

Good luck with that Race Card. I'm sure it's just racism as to why it keeps getting declined and not that you're over the limit.

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 29, 2012 07:13 AM (imtbm)

273 Had a cute little fawn, too. Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 29, 2012 11:10 AM (UOM4

Youtube has videos of herbivores eating small animals. I saw one that showed a cow eating a chicken.

Posted by: eman at August 29, 2012 07:13 AM (Wp4rQ)

274 I just remembered....we have some venison in the freezer.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 29, 2012 07:14 AM (UOM48)

275 I saw one that showed a cow eating a chicken.

Did it follow up with a peach shake?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 29, 2012 07:15 AM (/kI1Q)

276 276 I just remembered....we have some venison in the freezer.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 29, 2012 11:14 AM (UOM4

What about deer meat? Do you have any of that?

Posted by: Havedash at August 29, 2012 07:15 AM (ToMJU)

277 272: You mad, bro? There are better, wittier columnists out there. MM's light is dimming and she knows it, so spare me your butthurt please.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at August 29, 2012 07:15 AM (caAEA)

278 just remembered....we have some venison in the freezer.

Hi. Can I come over?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 29, 2012 07:15 AM (8y9MW)

279 Youtube has videos of herbivores eating small animals. I saw one that showed a cow eating a chicken.

Posted by: eman at August 29, 2012 11:13 AM (Wp4rQ

Weirdest thing I've ever seen: On a visit to my best friend who lives outside Cabo a few years ago, we were driving from the airport and watched one of the many free-roaming cows eating a plastic grocery bag.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 29, 2012 07:16 AM (UOM48)

280 Don't kid yourself, Jimmy. If a cow ever got the chance, he'd eat you and everyone you care about!

Posted by: troy mcclure at August 29, 2012 07:17 AM (QupBk)

281 272 Joffren & Joncelli RE MM; Please, do tell me about your national media presence and your websites that expose the corruption on the left and right so I may give them a look.

Posted by: teej at August 29, 2012 11:13 AM (/BwGa)

She's done great work. I respect and admire her. But when she goes off like Joffen described she's not doing herself any favors. You don't have to match her achievements to note when she's sabotaging herself.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at August 29, 2012 07:17 AM (RD7QR)

282 My pet squirrel loved kielbasa. It was kind of frightening to contemplate being attacked by a pack of squirrels.

Posted by: toby928© at August 29, 2012 07:19 AM (QupBk)

283 I can't believe how many Paul-bots are at Hot Gas.

STFU, and stay away from Rand Paul. He could actually make a difference, unlike his father.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at August 29, 2012 07:19 AM (xAtAj)

284 You know who's far funnier and has thicker skin than Malkin? Ann Coulter. Does that make Ann more relevant? Probably. Can you picture Ann freaking out on Twitter? I sure can't. I have several books by Michelle and I used to read her columns all the time. But that was back when she actually mattered.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at August 29, 2012 07:20 AM (caAEA)

285 Cows will eat anything, including Igloo plastic coolers.

Posted by: texette at August 29, 2012 07:20 AM (hiMsy)

286 >>My pet squirrel loved kielbasa. That sounds dirty.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 29, 2012 07:21 AM (TMB3S)

287 Rumors, thats an Album by Fleetwood Mac, the rest of this poop is lies and assumptions. There are no more Rumors, just lies and assumptions.

Posted by: Clemenza at August 29, 2012 07:21 AM (D1Nzt)

288 OT: (Via Insty)

Mia Love, (great speech yesterday), is feeling the lefty tolerance today. Some mouth breathing leftist twat-waffle edited her Wiki entry to call her a 'filthy fucking whore'......yet it's the GOP that has declared war on women? The anonymous little metrosexual that made those changes needs to be identified, and publicly shamed.

P.S. Wiki has hidden/removed those edits since they were brought to light.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at August 29, 2012 07:22 AM (L7hol)

289 Thinking about Winston Wolf, I really can't think of a good time to start sucking each other's dicks.

Posted by: Golan Globus at August 29, 2012 07:22 AM (/1U3u)

290 284 My pet squirrel loved kielbasa. It was kind of frightening to contemplate being attacked by a pack of squirrels. Posted by: toby928Â© at August 29, 2012 11:19 AM (QupBk) Zombie squirrels with rabies...

Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 29, 2012 07:22 AM (136wp)

291 291 Thinking about Winston Wolf, I really can't think of a good time to start sucking each other's dicks. Posted by: Golan Globus at August 29, 2012 11:22 AM (/1U3u) Anytime is a good time

Posted by: Generic Bwarney Frank Reply at August 29, 2012 07:22 AM (136wp)

292 You talk like the rumors being whispered are from the Romney campaign. I am certain they are not. They know the key is suburban Philly, not the western part of the state. They will be trying to follow Toomey's victory map.

Also note that Obama is running commercials in the Philly market. He sure isn't doing that because he is worried about Camden or Wilmington.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 29, 2012 07:23 AM (32do8)

293 Mad? Like you're worth that? Heh. Didn't see the "rant" of which you speak or know what it was about but with it being her I would tend to figure it needed saying.

Posted by: teej at August 29, 2012 07:24 AM (QbKVX)

294 .S. Wiki has hidden/removed those edits since they were brought to light.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at August 29, 2012 11:22 AM (L7hol)

They are wiping the edit history or just removing it? Big difference. It's their job to edit them out if that's all they are doing.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at August 29, 2012 07:24 AM (xAtAj)

295 CAC I don't get it--*if* the rumor is the Republicans are getting the votes in Allegheny County Pittsburgh area--how is it they are not getting the Montgomery, Bucks Co. area? My Dad is from Pittsburgh when I bothered to watch PA closely before I got sick of Republicans losing it--Allegheny was always bluer than those areas. Hell we sent Lynn Swann (he ran for governor IIRC as a Republican) in there one year and still lost PA. So you are saying that the demographics changed and somehow Allegheny county has lately trended more red then the more affluent burbs of Philly? Cripes what the hell!?

Posted by: tasker at August 29, 2012 07:25 AM (r2PLg)

296

It was kind of frightening to contemplate being attacked by a pack of squirrels.

They are always trying to give you a hot towel and a courtesy bag od peanuts.

Posted by: Arthur Dent at August 29, 2012 07:26 AM (gj/ZT)

297

OT the speecj the libs are really complaining about is Ann Romney's. They are unglued, saying shes an alien, a robot, spoiled, unbelievable.

And this "corporate wife" bullshit, you mean a woman and a man committed to each other and working toward the same goals? We call that a marriage

Posted by: thunderb at August 29, 2012 07:27 AM (Dnbau)

298 # 296

Removed them from the public archives, (two edits), for Grossly insulting, degrading, or offensive material.

I'm glad they removed them...I'd still love to know the identities of the people that originally made the edits.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at August 29, 2012 07:27 AM (L7hol)

299 I know a few people who book hunting tours out West, I have considered that a time or two but that is damned expensive. I grew up with people who thought that bow hunting Kodiak bear was a good idea and a fun thing to do. I view hunting much as I do skiing. I'll sit here in the lodge and get drunk and cheer y'all when you come back victorious. When I lived in OH, I lived in an area infested with turkey vultures. Those fuckers are nasty and would just stand there in the road daring you to plow them down. Oh how I hate those things. Don't get me started on the horrible accident that is going to happen to the geese that waddle across the road as slowly as possible on my way to work every morning. It would be worth it to drive into the pond to take them out. Posted by: teej at August 29, 2012 11:01 AM (K4AdI) Now I'm all blushy. That is very kind of you to say.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 29, 2012 07:27 AM (VtjlW)

300

MM jumped the shark some time back, imho. Her pepetual outrage posture is grating. She needs to lighten up a little. She could get her point across without looking and acting like someone just peed in her cornflakes.

Posted by: Havedash at August 29, 2012 07:28 AM (ToMJU)

301 299 OT the speecj the libs are really complaining about is Ann Romney's. They are unglued, saying shes an alien, a robot, spoiled, unbelievable. And this "corporate wife" bullshit, you mean a woman and a man committed to each other and working toward the same goals? We call that a marriage Posted by: thunderb at August 29, 2012 11:27 AM (Dnbau) We don't

Posted by: Mr & Mrs John & Dave at August 29, 2012 07:28 AM (136wp)

302 So this happened....

(click the linky thingy)

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 29, 2012 07:29 AM (pLTLS)

303 Watching MSDNC this morning was delightful. For some reason, they were all wearing buttons with Mika's pic on them.

They're nearing full melt-down mode. It will be wonderful to witness.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 29, 2012 07:29 AM (UOM48)

304 To the people of Pencilvania don't vote for that idiot Romney. Romney is a provin idiot and is stewped. We must stick with Prasadant Obomo because he cares about us peeple......

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at August 29, 2012 07:30 AM (48wze)

305 >>Mad? Like you're worth that? Heh. I'm worth your anger, trust me. >>Didn't see the "rant" of which you speak or know what it was about but with it being her I would tend to figure it needed saying. Yes, she's a veritable fountain of cool-headed commentary and never goes off the rails. She's also not a petty little shrew either. Riiiight. You sound like one of the twits that was hurling insults at me all fucking day. Give it a rest.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at August 29, 2012 07:30 AM (caAEA)

306

Ima hope that backfires big time with the people who have lost jobs, homes, and savings during obama's tenure

___

The unemployment and housing meltdown have hit the formerly comfortable collar counties harder than anyone knows or is willing to admit.

According to Dept. of Labor, only 56% of those laid off 2009-2011 have found jobs, a third of them taking pay cuts of 20% or more. Philly metro is not exempt from that reality. Laid off workers have blown through their 401ks in order to make ends meet until they got a new job, if they were that lucky. I'm hearing war stories from the Main Line that were unheard of since, well, forever.

RealtyTrac offers a glimpse into distressed housing inventory, it's a real eye-opener to see how many of the listings are located in the zip codes formerly considered bulletproof.

Posted by: kallisto at August 29, 2012 07:30 AM (jm/9g)

307 Nonsense little sister. I just call em like I see em. Or in this case read em.

Posted by: teej at August 29, 2012 07:30 AM (QbKVX)

308 why does he assume only balck people will drown? White people drown too you know..when you hear the dog whistle, you're the dog

Posted by: thunderb at August 29, 2012 07:31 AM (Dnbau)

309 So this happened... Has anyone actually drowned? Serious question, I haven't seen any oh noes body count.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 29, 2012 07:32 AM (VtjlW)

310 Okay holy smokes--I read up thread and some of the PA morons are saying the same thing. Jeebus Allegheny more red than the rich country clubbers in Montgomery Co. You gotta be kidding me. GO STEELERS!!! Suck it you Eagles fans!

Posted by: tasker at August 29, 2012 07:32 AM (r2PLg)

311 White people drown too you know..when you hear the dog whistle, you're the dog

Yeah, but Whites deserve to drown. Or something.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 29, 2012 07:33 AM (8y9MW)

312 I unfollowed Malkin and removed her bookmarks shortly after the Tardisil episode. That showed me a lot about her, and I didn't like what I saw.

Posted by: grognard at August 29, 2012 07:33 AM (NS2Mo)

313 304 So this happened....

(click the linky thingy)

Yes, using his time machine Star Khan Reince Priebus and Mitt the Destroyer saw when the hurricane would go ashore and deliberately chose that date for the convention so they could party hardy while black people died. Because they're just.That. Evil. [Long, tortured sigh]

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at August 29, 2012 07:35 AM (RD7QR)

314 Has Sheppy blown away yet? I enjoyed watching Soledad O'Lyin' getting a good soaking in NOLA this morning.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 29, 2012 07:36 AM (UOM48)

315 Had the current Governor/Legislature split up the Electoral Votes by Congressional district in PA, Republicans would own the White House for a generation.

Sure the Left would have screamed hell about it. Who cares? A week later it would have been old news and we would own the Executive Branch.

Posted by: Jalopy at August 29, 2012 07:36 AM (0kf1G)

316 Gee, now I've been called names an ordered to give it a rest. You mad bro? Havedash, thanks for your input and I mean that. I did read one time that if you're not outraged, you're not paying attention.

Posted by: teej at August 29, 2012 07:36 AM (RYVE/)

317 why does he assume only balck people will drown? White people drown too you know..

IIRC, there were more white corpses found after Katrina than black...something like a half-percent more, but anyone with a third grade education should realize that "dead white people" means "not only black people died."

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 29, 2012 07:36 AM (/kI1Q)

318 That's exactly what we need right now more blue on blue fire missions. MM vs AC is apples and oranges, Ann has a JD and Prosecutorial cred. Malkin while earnest and dilligent gets too strident at times. I'm glad both are on our side but have found both of their set of dividivepoliticking tiresome.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 29, 2012 07:36 AM (hiVgY)

319 Keep dreaming, teabaggers. I'm from Scranton. There's no way we are losing New Jersey.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 29, 2012 07:36 AM (XxAYS)

320 yes, and eerybody knows black people can't swim, so sayeth the libtards, so sayeth them all

Posted by: thunderb at August 29, 2012 07:36 AM (Dnbau)

321 Anyone who drowns by staying in a below sea level area when a major storm with a potential huge storm surge is predicted and tracker for days isn't black, white or red, they are a fucking idiot. My compassion meter for people who refuse to believe that yes, fire will burn you and instead feel the need to repeatedly stick their hands in the flame doesn't even register.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 29, 2012 07:37 AM (TMB3S)

322 I live in Bucks county and there is a giant change in how people feel about Obama here. In 2008 there were Obama yard signs in what seemed like every third house. Today I've seen onlly one and I've taken rides throughout southern and central Bucks, the areas closest to Philly. Also I'm beginning to see anti-Obama bumper stickers on cars...some hilarious. I've only seen one Obama bumper sticker. Everyone I talk to freely brings up Obama and they can't stand him. I've put some "Under my plan, energy prices would necessarily skyrocket" stickers on gas pumps around here. I just go to several stations at a time and pump $5 worth and slap a sticker on the pump.

Posted by: harrison J. Bounel at August 29, 2012 07:37 AM (TWn4N)

323 Because they're just.That. Evil. [Long, tortured sigh]>>

Don't forget that they also closed down the evac routes to them also.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 29, 2012 07:37 AM (tf9Ne)

324 Tolkien must have meant for Sauron and his orcs to speak Ebonics. You know, with his "Black Speech of Mordor". Every use of the word "black" as a descriptor MUST refer to ethnic African Americans. *rolls eyes*

275 Well, the outrageously outraged outrage that is coming from the left is the racistly racist racism of the Book of Mormon.

You see, a book originally meant to be read by 19th century folk used the common practice of the time to refer to the good guys with characteristics such as pure, clean, white, etc. and the bad guys as dirty, unclean, black, etc. You know, just like everyone else at the time did.
Posted by: RoyalOil at August 29, 2012 11:13 AM (imtbm)

Posted by: Mario Williams, Marcel Darius, Kyle Williams, and Mark Anderson at August 29, 2012 07:37 AM (cv5Iw)

325 This thread is beginning to smell of day old pudding and horde-cheese.

Posted by: MiloX at August 29, 2012 07:37 AM (afwhe)

326

I'm down for a SE PA moron meetup. As long as it's somewhat close to South Philly.....

I have a good reason to be optimistic about PA. My leftard brother is cracking. He told me that he is actually considering voting for Mitt. After I picked my jaw up from the floor, I asked why the extreme change of heart. He told me that 18 months of unemployment had an effect. And many of his trade union buddies feel the same way. The kool-aid has gone sour.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at August 29, 2012 07:38 AM (YmPwQ)

327 309: Can you picture Coulter or Levin or even Beck freaking out like MM does on Twitter? She really did prove my point. In fact, a few of her fans were mad that she even responded to me, a guy with less than 200 followers. Why did she go out of her way to snap a screenshot of my profile and send it? She must have known what would happen. It's pathetic.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at August 29, 2012 07:38 AM (caAEA)

328

Posted by: Jalopy at August 29, 2012 11:36 AM (0kf1G)

___

THIS

Posted by: kallisto at August 29, 2012 07:38 AM (jm/9g)

329 Juan proudly stepping in it and smearing it on the fucking rug AGAIN.

Posted by: ontherocks at August 29, 2012 07:38 AM (aZ6ew)

330

Posted by: Pyrocles at August 29, 2012 07:38 AM (cv5Iw)

331 sonofa...

Posted by: Soothsayer the Space Chief at August 29, 2012 07:39 AM (c9CQj)

332 This is exactly why we should end "winner take all" electoral votes. Those four counties in Southeastern Pennsylvania effectively disenfranchise the rest of the state. Pennsylvania had the right idea earlier this year. States should give two electoral votes to the candidate who takes the state overall representative of the EV allocated for the state's at-large Senate seats and they should give one EV to the winner of each House district.

The "problem" with that and the reason why many places won't do it is that it allows third party candidates to potentially accumulate electoral votes by taken a few House districts around the nation but so be it.

Posted by: crosspatch at August 29, 2012 07:39 AM (ZbLJZ)

333 Posted by: JackStraw at August 29, 2012 11:37 AM (TMB3S)

Laissez les bons temps rouler

Posted by: Alec Leamas at August 29, 2012 07:41 AM (mg08E)

334 Tardasil has that effect, Joffen. Just ask Rick Perry.

Posted by: Havedash at August 29, 2012 07:41 AM (ToMJU)

335 So, the coal miners who attended Romney's event were not paid for that, and attendance was mandatory, according to a dumbass spokesman, who also said no one was forced to attend. 1) He better have misspoke. But its sure taking the social media by storm. 2) They couldn't pay the workers because then they'd be paying people to attend a political event which is not legal. Sounds...credible. Or do state employees get paid for attending Obama rallies? 3) I hope those workers who bitched are the first to get their pink slips when Obama shuts down their mine.

Posted by: Sexypig at August 29, 2012 07:42 AM (dZQh7)

336 what did you do to the blog man/ why?

Posted by: thunderb at August 29, 2012 07:42 AM (Dnbau)

337 Please stop cutting and pasting from any MS Office product (Word, Outlook, etc.)

Please?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 29, 2012 07:42 AM (8y9MW)

338 Isaac must be a Democrat. Stuck in one spot and spinning furiously.

This storm is creeping northwest so slowly, it reminds me of Nancy Pelosi trying to ambush a glass of water.

The storm has no clearly defined center of circulation, just like the MSM.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 29, 2012 07:42 AM (+QMqR)

339 My leftard brother is cracking. He told methat he is actually considering voting for Mitt. After I picked my jaw up from the floor, I asked why the extreme change of heart. He told me that 18 months of unemployment had an effect. And many of his trade union buddies feel the same way. The kool-aid has gone sour. Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at August 29, 2012 11:38 AM (YmPwQ) _____________________________ Here's my strategy--I tell my leftward voting fam and friends that I am not voting for Romney--get them all complacent and cool with the idea of not voting--then I'm going to round up every right voting person I know and nag the hell out of them to vote. Sort of a twofer!

Posted by: tasker at August 29, 2012 07:43 AM (r2PLg)

340

re Islamic prayers at the dem convention. If the GOP had any guts, they would talk about this. Look at who the dems allow to pray at their convention and look at what islam does to women. Who really supports a war on women? Hypocritical SOBs.

Sorry to throw cold water on this - and apologies if it's already been mentioned - but the Islamobastards are not at the convention. They're doing their damndest to make it look that way, but they're not. Check out the Anchoress' blog for the straight dope.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 29, 2012 07:43 AM (zF6Iw)

341 I've never understood why the need for copy/paste from a word processor?

Can some people not type directly in this here comment box thingy?

Posted by: Tami at August 29, 2012 07:44 AM (X6akg)

342 Don't do teh twitter. But I do love the way all four of them take it to the left and I'm glad all four are on our side.

Posted by: teej at August 29, 2012 07:44 AM (/BwGa)

343 340 Isaac must be a Democrat. Stuck in one spot and spinning furiously.

This storm is creeping northwest so slowly, it reminds me of Nancy Pelosi trying to ambush a glass of water.

The storm has no clearly defined center of circulation, just like the MSM.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 29, 2012 11:42 AM (+QMqR)

So should we try the veal?

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at August 29, 2012 07:45 AM (RD7QR)

344 I've had more than one kid come home from school to inform me that fracking can cause tap water to become flammable.Posted by: Sticky Wicket

A group of skeptics has been working on a film to combat that Gasland propaganda. Link in name.

It's not due out for few more months but you should insist that those school have a viewing

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at August 29, 2012 07:45 AM (Q/1Jp)

345 Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at August 29, 2012 11:38 AM

Malkin does not like it when anyone disagrees with her. You should be well aware of that by now.

With that -- and her snarky attitude in general, her relentless self-pimping and her link (to nobody who matters)-filled, venom-packed screeds over what so often is really trivia -- I have quit bothering to read her. She is Kos for Konservatives.

That said, I wish someone (Ace, maybe?) would begin to display some righteous anger at the shit being pulled on us every day, as is shown by the current lead story at BB, which displays audio/video evidence of the slanted "reporting" from ABC. NBC and CBS are no better, and it isn't even worth commenting about CNN or MSNBC.

In short, the libs, under their little tin god, Bark Obama, have gone all the way over the fucking edge, and it's time to get in their treasonous faces. As in NOW.

And not with the stamping of a little foot in Outrageous Outrage, either.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 29, 2012 07:46 AM (wZI4b)

346 Sure try the veal! Meet the meat!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 29, 2012 07:47 AM (+QMqR)

347

Can some people not type directly in this here comment box thingy?

Yes

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 29, 2012 07:47 AM (R8hU8)

348 I have a good reason to be optimistic about PA. My leftard brother is cracking. He told methat he is actually considering voting for Mitt. After I picked my jaw up from the floor, I asked why the extreme change of heart. He told me that 18 months of unemployment had an effect. And many of his trade union buddies feel the same way. The kool-aid has gone sour.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at August 29, 2012 11:38 AM (YmPwQ)

I am sincerely sorry for your brother's pain, but, I find it encouraging that he is learning from the pain. It is sad to see the Leftards that continue to assert that this economy is BUSH'S FAULT.

Posted by: Will Be Taking Applications and Assimilating The Love-slaves at August 29, 2012 07:48 AM (kXoT0)

349 234. Found this doing a quick search.
Seems that Susan Delise Williams was or is a social worker:
http://www.bookerrising.net/2011/07/juan-williams-wife-npr-liberals-are.html

Posted by: LRBnSC at August 29, 2012 07:49 AM (rN3Sj)

350 It has taken about 14 hours for the eye of Isaac to make it from the mouth of the Mississippi River to New Orleans.

That is almost Joe Biden slow.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 29, 2012 07:51 AM (+QMqR)

351 Any "smart" analysis about the new convention rules?

As much as I like seeing Paulbots gnash their teeth in despair, I also don't like the idea of shutting out the Tea Party out of primary chances.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at August 29, 2012 07:52 AM (xAtAj)

352 352 It has taken about 14 hours for the eye of Isaac to make it from the mouth of the Mississippi River to New Orleans.

That is almost Joe Biden slow.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 29, 2012 11:51 AM (+QMqR)

Is it bad when they're slow?

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at August 29, 2012 07:52 AM (RD7QR)

353 Re #347 -- Newsbusters has the same story.

Everyone even remotely involved with this at ABC should be fired. Of course, Brian Williams, Chuck Turd, What's-her-face (Greenspan's wife) and the fellow travelers at NBC should go, too.

I'm now more than 50% certain that media policies and Choom Boy's own wishes will lead to bloodshed and rioting on or before Nov. 6.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 29, 2012 07:53 AM (wZI4b)

354 I do believe their will be rioting after Nov 6

Posted by: thunderb at August 29, 2012 07:54 AM (Dnbau)

355 It has taken about 14 hours for the eye of Isaac to make it from the mouth of the Mississippi River to New Orleans.

That is almost Joe Biden slow.>>

If it were a hurricane named Joe Biden it would have made landfall in Wyoming.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 29, 2012 07:54 AM (tf9Ne)

356 Is it bad when they're slow? Yup. Think of a huge rainstorm just sitting there drenching everything for hours and hours. There's no way even the most water parched soil can absorb it so that's when the really bad flooding begins.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 29, 2012 07:55 AM (VtjlW)

357 don't slow hurricanes mean more rain, and thus more flooding?

Posted by: thunderb at August 29, 2012 07:55 AM (Dnbau)

358 the worst part about slow-moving hurricanes: the media's bleating

Posted by: Soothsayer the Space Chief at August 29, 2012 07:57 AM (c9CQj)

359 They lose power when they stall over land, too. Stalling over water, they gain power if it's warm.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at August 29, 2012 07:57 AM (UEEex)

360

Is it bad when they're slow?

Politicians or hurricanes?

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 29, 2012 07:57 AM (R8hU8)

361 bleat: to babble

Posted by: Soothsayer the Space Chief at August 29, 2012 07:58 AM (c9CQj)

362 A slow moving hurricane is like a sloppy guest who does not leave.

With Isaac moving so slowing, it still has some feeder bands bringing in energy and rain from the Gulf of Mexico. So as it sits over the New Orleans area, the rainfall amount will keep climbing. Which means we get to see if the rebuilt pumping stations can keep up. Though one place they pump to is Lake Pontchartrain so with the pumping they add pressure on the levees.

Even the Mississippi Gulf Coast is being flooded by rain and storm surge. Large stretches of Hwy 90 on the beach are impassible. Even some of the back roads are under water.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 29, 2012 07:58 AM (+QMqR)

363 Is it over land yet? Once it's over land it loses energy. On the West Coast--guess I should turn on the boob tube.

Posted by: tasker at August 29, 2012 07:59 AM (r2PLg)

364

OMG

remember when the helicopter went down and 30 Seal Team members perished, the greatest loss of navy seals in one incident ever?

it happened right after Seal Team Six got Bin Laden

Obama sent the families form letters of condolence. form. letters. Signed with an electronic pen

lazy ungrateful fuck

Posted by: thunderb at August 29, 2012 08:00 AM (Dnbau)

365 Tasker, the thing Isaac calls an eye is very disorganized and is probably 75 miles of the storm's total size.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 29, 2012 08:01 AM (+QMqR)

366 Here is the live cam for two storm trackers on the Mississippi Gulf Coast.

http://www.hurricanetrack.com/

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 29, 2012 08:02 AM (+QMqR)

367 366
OMG

remember when the helicopter went down and 30 Seal Team members perished, thegreatest loss of navy seals in one incidentever?

it happened right after Seal Team Six got Bin Laden

Obama sent the families form letters of condolence.form. letters. Signed with an electronic pen

lazy ungrateful fuck

Posted by: thunderb at August 29, 2012 12:00 PM (Dnbau

And the families asked Barry to not use the arrival of the bodies at Dover for a photo op and he did anyway. Disgusting POS.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 29, 2012 08:02 AM (UOM48)

368 As much as I like seeing Paulbots gnash their teeth in despair, I also don't like the idea of shutting out the Tea Party out of primary chances.Posted by: HoboJerky

The TEA Party has the same avenues to present a candidate that Teh EstablushmuntÂ™ does.

Put up a fucking candidate and get more votes. What the fuck is so hard to understand?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at August 29, 2012 08:02 AM (Q/1Jp)

369 the thing Isaac calls an eye is very disorganized

You're gonna hurt his self-esteem.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 29, 2012 08:03 AM (/kI1Q)

370 They should rename Isaac "Squirrel" since the way the media's treating it that would make more sense.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 29, 2012 08:03 AM (wrS2o)

371 On the live cam, the guys just told some of the locals to expect another 12 hours of Isaac.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 29, 2012 08:03 AM (+QMqR)

372 Malkin does not like it when anyone disagrees with her. You should be well aware of that by now.
=============
Oh, I haven't forgotten she led the charge of the Tardisil Brigades. And, I believe, that "in-state tuition equals full and complete amnesty for any and all, no matter what " nonsense.

Whateve's.

Perry stepped on his dick well enough on his own. But, she sure didn't cover herself in glory through her self-appointed role as Conservative Purity Judge.

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 29, 2012 08:04 AM (imtbm)

373 2 minutes to Rush

Posted by: Soothsayer the Space Chief at August 29, 2012 08:04 AM (c9CQj)

374 After reading a bunch about Ann Romney's dress, I had one of them mind-thoughts of recollection: Michelle Obama's dressmaker - the one whose design she wore to give the 2008 "My Husband" speech? And whose work was repeatedly worn by Herself, Michelle? Went bankrupt in 2010. Mitt gave her cancer - which won't show up until 2017 - because he can (and he's Mormon.) _

Posted by: BumperStickerist at August 29, 2012 08:04 AM (RuUvx)

375 calls an eye is very disorganized and is probably 75 miles of the storm's total size. ____________ Hmmm--so part of the eye is still over water? I use to live in Key West and the Panhandle of Florida--I've seen the media reporting from Duval street in Key West in this puddle that floods if Key West gets rain for two minutes. I hate to say this but after watching that crap I kind of get why the people of NOLA do not take the media seriously. The media has lost credibility over the years because I am almost positive they have seen the media pull the same stunts up there.

Posted by: tasker at August 29, 2012 08:05 AM (r2PLg)

376 Look into my eye. You are getting sleeping... very sleepy...

Posted by: Isaac at August 29, 2012 08:05 AM (R18D0)

377 Mitt gave her cancer - which won't show up until 2017 - She was duped!

Posted by: Soothsayer the Space Chief at August 29, 2012 08:06 AM (c9CQj)

378

Since this is a Penna. thread, just think of Hurricane Agnes, which got to the Pa/NY region and stopped moving at all. The damage bankrupted 7 railroads and caused massive flooding region wide. 1974 I think it was.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 29, 2012 08:06 AM (l3vZN)

379 @366- Well thunderb, you gotta keep in mind he's doing the hard job of presidentin and trying to get a little fundraising, campaigning and golf in on the side. Is this where I take the sarcasm tag off? Now about that breakfast I've been putting off... Love each other fellow babies.

Posted by: teej at August 29, 2012 08:07 AM (JCIjD)

380

Put up a fucking candidate and get more votes. What the fuck is so hard to understand?

See Texas senate race and Cruz win for example

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 29, 2012 08:07 AM (R8hU8)

381 LOL. Just read a comment about the SEAL book about bin Laden:

"We know bin Laden's dead. He just registered to vote in Chicago."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 29, 2012 08:08 AM (UOM48)

382 Put up a fucking candidate and get more votes. What the fuck is so hard to understand?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 29, 2012 12:02 PM (Q/1Jp)

I was honestly asking if the rules makes it even harder for inroads into the party.

I don't know the details. I'm a Moron.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at August 29, 2012 08:08 AM (xAtAj)

383 I know Obama was at another fundraiser yesterday, where is he today?

Posted by: Dang at August 29, 2012 08:08 AM (R18D0)

384 No fracking jobs for you, PA! Literally...

Posted by: O'Bozo at August 29, 2012 08:08 AM (FcR7P)

385 The one thing i HATE about the national Republican race is the "your turn"ism that is undeniable.

It was McCain's turn... now it's Mitt's(although frankly the field was worse, but we managed a better candidate than '0

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at August 29, 2012 08:09 AM (xAtAj)

386 See Texas senate race and Cruz win for example Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 29, 2012 12:07 PM (R8hU

They are trying to control from the top down, won't work if we grab precinct captains, candidates and fund locally not nationally.

Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 29, 2012 08:10 AM (136wp)

387 I'm not posting today until we get a new thread.

Posted by: Countrysquire at August 29, 2012 08:10 AM (QB3JR)

388 The southern eye wall of Isaac is ashore. South of Dulac, LA. But it still has feeder bands out over the Gulf.

Looking a the radar loop, Isaac's eye has gotten a bit tighter. So New Orleans is getting rain again.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 29, 2012 08:10 AM (+QMqR)

389 But then I don't get to yell and scream. Posted by: Mallamutt,

Apparently that's what it comes down to; some people weren't allowed to throw a temper tantrum.

The horror. The horror.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at August 29, 2012 08:10 AM (Q/1Jp)

390 392 I'm not posting today until we get a new thread. Posted by: Countrysquire at August 29, 2012 12:10 PM (QB3JR) Listen, when life gives you lemonades, don't be sad because, HEY! free lemons, dude.

Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 29, 2012 08:12 AM (136wp)

391 Tasker, I know the media outlets are just insane. Was watching Fox last night and they had this female reporter in rain slicker getting pounded by the wind and rain in New Orleans. And I was thinking why is she doing that? Oh right its what stupid Cantore and Rivera does. So to be 'serious' there she was getting washed out. I turned off the TV and went to bed.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 29, 2012 08:12 AM (+QMqR)

392 Apparently that's what it comes down to; some people weren't allowed to throw a temper tantrum.

The horror. The horror.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 29, 2012 12:10 PM

If people want to throw political temper tantrums, let 'em become Democrats.

Or Michelle Malkin.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 29, 2012 08:13 AM (wZI4b)

393 Since we're drifting about here . . . .

F'ing Al Roker doing live weather reports on GIGANTIC HORROR of DEATH HURRICANE with some guy holding him. Ha! Wind's so strong it's almost completely puffed up his hat on the poncho--any stronger and it might actually blow it off.

And this is a good time to remind everyone why the newsies all feel the need to stand out in the rain and pretend they're risking death in 25mph winds: Dan Rather.

So, what's the frequency, Kenneth?

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 29, 2012 08:13 AM (imtbm)

394 Anyone know when my $3000 annual savings on health insurance will arrive? Startin to think I was duped on that promise.

Posted by: Up with people! at August 29, 2012 08:13 AM (kzFo5)

395 Since this is a Penna. thread, just think of Hurricane Agnes Unless it was an early hurricane, it must have been '73. (we moved to PA in '74 after getting pounded by Agnes further north)

Posted by: t-bird at August 29, 2012 08:13 AM (FcR7P)

396 RoyalOil, jinx!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 29, 2012 08:14 AM (+QMqR)

397 397 Tasker, I know the media outlets are just insane. Was watching Fox last night and they had this female reporter in rain slicker getting pounded by the wind and rain in New Orleans. And I was thinking why is she doing that? Oh right its what stupid Cantore and Rivera does. So to be 'serious' there she was getting washed out. I turned off the TV and went to bed. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 29, 2012 12:12 PM (+QMqR) And it's a good way to get yourself killed. All you need is for a stop sign flying @ fifty miles an hour to embed itself in you skull.

Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 29, 2012 08:14 AM (136wp)

398 401 Anyone know when my $3000 annual savings on health insurance will arrive? Startin to think I was duped on that promise. Posted by: Up with people! at August 29, 2012 12:13 PM (kzFo5) We are sending it in the form of rainbows. So, next time you see a rainbow - we debit your account $1,000.

Posted by: Barack Insane Obama at August 29, 2012 08:16 AM (136wp)

399 I was honestly asking if the rules makes it even harder for inroads into the party. I don't know the details. I'm a Moron.Posted by: HoboJerky

Ditto for me as well. I tried reading Goldstein's post, and he opted for ad hominem and minute detail of the dark motivations of Rovian Spawn than actually describing what the fucking problem was.

So the RNC wanted to make official the candidate that won the most votes in each state and this is some how preventing TEA party members from 'lettin' der voice being a'herd'?

The fuck?

The only reason for some being pissed is they actually wanted a brokered convention? Again, the fuck?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at August 29, 2012 08:16 AM (Q/1Jp)

400 noods

Posted by: Soothsayer the Space Chief at August 29, 2012 08:16 AM (c9CQj)

401 this female reporter in rain slicker getting pounded by the wind and rain in New Orleans. And I was thinking why is she doing that? __________ Ha! So you know what I am talking about. It's even more ridiculous when you see it live. Kids on their bikes in t-shirts and the news model doing a shot in full rubbers. Ha! Anyways--new thread people--now with less scrolling! It's an Ewok beam.

Posted by: tasker at August 29, 2012 08:16 AM (r2PLg)

402 It's not THAT the wind is blowin.....

Posted by: Ron White at August 29, 2012 08:16 AM (kzFo5)

403 282 Don't kid yourself, Jimmy. If a cow ever got the chance, he'd eat you and everyone you care about! Posted by: troy mcclure at August 29, 2012 11:17 AM (QupBk) ________ But first, the sex change.

Posted by: Cricket at August 29, 2012 08:17 AM (DrC22)

404 Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 29, 2012 12:16 PM (Q/1Jp)

If that's the only real change, I have no issues with it.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at August 29, 2012 08:20 AM (xAtAj)

405 "That showed me a lot about her, and I didn't like what I saw.
Posted by: grognard"

Ditto.

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at August 29, 2012 08:36 AM (lwohC)

406 Too many welfare types in the Philly region. They vote 100% Obama. They don't care that they live in slums.

Posted by: alans4 at August 29, 2012 08:48 AM (7IRST)

407

Romney will take Bucks. They vote their pocketbook when times are tough (though they won't admit it in public or to a pollster) and times are tough. They elect a Dem congressman when they feel good about their money and a Repub when they feel bad. They elected a Republican congressman in 2010 and I don't see that things have changed much, except for those living 100% off the market (in which case their portfolios might be a shadow of their former selves, assuming they didn't go all in on bank stock).

I think they have patted themselves on the back enough for their votes for Barky, and now will get back to business.

Romney is actually a perfect fit for Bucks... a moderate. They aren't particularly religious people (other than the Catholics) so the Mormon thing likely won't bother them.

My parents still live there, in the suburban middle part of the county, just south of the serious money in Solebury and just north of the working class in Langhorne.

Posted by: the other coyote at August 29, 2012 09:25 AM (yK44T)

408 I also live in Bucks and I will flat out predict that Romney will carry Bucks by a lot. The Democrats were barely able to come up with a candidate for the 8th District House seat. I can't tell you how many people I know personally who voted for Obama - and I know this will piss off people here, but most of them did because of Sarah Palin - and they are all voting Romney. The GOP is very organized here and already running a good ground game of IDing voters and getting info out to undecideds. My husband was an Obama volunteer in 2008 and he is hearing nothing from OFA this year - no phone class, no mail, no door to door visits - and they blanketed this area in 2008. One friend told me he thinks Obama is almost deliberately insulting voters here by pandering to illegal immigrants, welfare recipients, teachers unions, etc. He said when he listens to Obama he thinks he must live in a different country. This is why Romney's somewhat maudlin rhetoric about believing in America is good - it resonates in areas like this which are very patriotic. And there are TONS of Catholics in Bucks County. This weekend is the biggest Polish Catholic festival in the country in Doylestown. I'm going to go just to see what kind of Republican prospecting I see there. Romney's visit to Poland was wall-to-wall covered in the local Polish newspaper.

Posted by: rockmom at August 29, 2012 10:02 AM (qe2/V)

409 BTW, Michelle Obama was in Philadelphia recently and her visit did not get a lot of play. She skipped over Bucks and Montgomery and then went up to Bethlehem, which is a Democrat stronghold. It's pretty obvious that Team Obama isn't even going to try to win Bucks.

Posted by: rockmom at August 29, 2012 10:04 AM (qe2/V)

410 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at August 29, 2012 01:41 PM (6o4Fb)

411 Two words.

COAL MINERS

Posted by: Sara at August 29, 2012 01:42 PM (0M2Nt)

412

Just as "you didn't build it" helped jump-start Mitt's campaign, those bitter people clinging to their guns and their religion no longer have Ed Rendell adding thousands of fraudulent votes to Eastern Pa's count.

Rendell has tried to get some interest from Obama's team ( $ ) so I suppose it will come down to did they read his smoke signals?

Corbett may see storm troopers intimidating voters ( New Panthers ) a little differently than Rendell saw them.

Posted by: Stiller at August 29, 2012 02:12 PM (D8vni)

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