May 05, 2012

Adam Carolla Rips Leslie Stahl's Attack on Terrorist Interrogation
— Ace

Language warning, as usual.

Here's the original report by Stahl: Hard Measures, part 1 and part 2.

You made them feel uncomfortable?

via @steve_in_hb

Posted by: Ace at 10:18 AM | Comments (103)
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1 Yay for Carolla. Good on him.

Posted by: wheatie at May 05, 2012 10:20 AM (g4NO6)

2 He's right....where are the bodies from waterboarding?

Posted by: wheatie at May 05, 2012 10:21 AM (g4NO6)

3

Saturday Ace?

rara avis

Posted by: garrett at May 05, 2012 10:21 AM (EqTSz)

4 Torturing doesn't get you any information except when it does.

Posted by: Settled Science at May 05, 2012 10:22 AM (EqTSz)

5 I don't think Adam Carolla realizes Leslie Stahl's is on the terrorist's side.  That harsh interrogation works is precisely why she opposes it.

Posted by: John W. at May 05, 2012 10:22 AM (K7KaF)

6 How did I miss half the Libertarian convention? WTF! I'm such a fuck up libertarian.

Posted by: Jimmah at May 05, 2012 10:30 AM (UpwlP)

7 This is exactly the sort of thing that's going to drive the precious moderates to Obama, when will Romney distance himself from noted intolerant, white hate monger adam corolla? signed XXOO GOP establishment that strangely wants to vote for Obama

Posted by: joeindc44 at May 05, 2012 10:31 AM (WrIV3)

8 Hannity did a special on this subject last night. .....The hubby had it on, I caught parts of it.....there was a stellar group of folks on there, sort of a who's-who of our favorite Hawks.

Posted by: wheatie at May 05, 2012 10:31 AM (g4NO6)

9 Iowahawk's Julia's Circle of Life for those that missed it.
Linkage en nom.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at May 05, 2012 10:35 AM (ebPtk)

10

best line:

some chick - 'Not even a muffin?'

Carolla - '...it's bran.'

Posted by: garrett at May 05, 2012 10:35 AM (EqTSz)

11 Looks like Johnson is pretty handily sweeping the nomination.

Posted by: Jimmah at May 05, 2012 10:36 AM (UpwlP)

12 AC rocks...

Posted by: Gmac at May 05, 2012 10:38 AM (TG5ad)

13 Fetch the comfy chair!

Posted by: irright at May 05, 2012 10:38 AM (RzLbD)

14 Thanks for the language warning. This is seriously lacking in F-bombs.

Posted by: fluffy at May 05, 2012 10:39 AM (z9HTb)

15 It's Orwellian I tells ya.

Posted by: toby928© at May 05, 2012 10:43 AM (NG097)

16 except for the rat face eating part.

Posted by: toby928© at May 05, 2012 10:43 AM (NG097)

17 Jose Rodriguez Jr. for vice president. And I love the fact that he is so soft spoken. Some of the toughest people are. They don't need to "spike the football" and brag about their "gutsy calls", because they have actual balls.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 05, 2012 10:44 AM (V/Aej)

18 That was more awesome than #ObamaDogRecipes !... nice job Corolla

Posted by: Tightie Rightie at May 05, 2012 10:45 AM (OfDMM)

19

Posted by: Tightie Rightie at May 05, 2012 02:45 PM (OfDMM)

 

Call me.

Posted by: Barney Frank at May 05, 2012 10:46 AM (EqTSz)

20 LA banned both plastic and paper bags the other day. Idea is to force people to use reusable bags. Eco-nazis say it's a "myth" that the reusable bags are unsanitary even though studies show they quickly become infested with e.coli. Eco high priests say just use common sense and: 1) Use separate bags for fresh fruit, dairy, and meat products. 2) Regularly wash your bags. 3) Don't store your bags in a warm or moist environment. Great, so now my health is dependent on every single person who visits my grocery store being ultra-clean and responsible. Good thing nobody will buy their reusable bags and 1) never wash them 2) keep them in the warm, moist trunk of their car and 3) respond to spills of milk or a squished tomato or some raw meat juice seeping into the bag, by just shaking the bag until they can't see any visible meat juice and stuffing it back into their trunk. Fuckin awesome. I'm sure the Mexican construction worker guys who shop in LA are gonna spend several hours a week on the care of their fucking reusable grocery bag. Fucking nazis. Doesn't California have anything better to do with its fucking time? Fuck.

Posted by: Muhammad's Left Nut at May 05, 2012 10:46 AM (ZPrif)

21 "AC rocks..." Gave me an idea. I would love to see a collage of video snippets of the various enhanced interrogation techniques, like face slapping, stripping naked, and water boarding, put to the AC/DC's "Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap".

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 05, 2012 10:47 AM (V/Aej)

22 LA banned both plastic and paper bags the other day.


What a good idea!!

Posted by: Concord, MA at May 05, 2012 10:50 AM (z9HTb)

23
Someone needs to invent the gun that shines a 'hurt your feelings' beam.

Posted by: sTevo at May 05, 2012 10:50 AM (VMcEw)

24

It's  not  that Leslie Stahl and the rest of her cohort is on "the other side", but the whole idea of treating these people harshly makes her feel "icky".  It upsets her sensibilities.

War is harsh business, very harsh.  We think we have taken the harsh stuff out with precision munitions that reduce "collateral damage".     But that is science fiction.

As Clint said in "The Unforgiven", "It's a terrible thing to kill a man.  It takes away all he was and all he ever will be."

 

Leslie and the adult children with whom she runs with forget just how harsh things are sometimes. They forget the mass murders that took place in Iraq before Saddam was deposed.  They forget the harsh killing of Afghans when the Russians tried to subdue the country in the '80's (and it was nothing like that stupid movie "Charlie Wilson's War").

They forget how cruel the Taliban were as they settled the end of the Afghan Civil War which took place after the Soviets left. Shooting someone in the head because the violated a harsh version of Sharia law.

But being harsh with a bunch of international terrorists that were involved in murdering 3000 Americans and assorted other nationalities on Sept 11, 2001 makes Leslie Stahl  feel "icky"  Because she is the end product of 240 years of a Constitutional Republic that valued the rule of law over the rule of the jungle and harsh government autocratic power. She and her tribe believe that "lawfare" is going to tame the savages that rampage about in the Muddled East and elsewhere in the name of the Prophet Mohammed,  trying to do again what they have done for over 1400 years.  Spread Islam at the point of the sword or the barrel of a gun - a bunch of gangsters on Razza.   But Leslie Stahl and lawfare are going to fix that.

 

Right.

 

I'm sad that Leslie Stahl is made to feel icky about how some people feel we should wage a limited war against Salafist Islam, but after writing this little rant, I really don't feel much about Leslie Stahl or the rest of her limp-wristed pillow - biter friends.  I really don't care much about what she thinks at all, because franky, I don't think she really thinks.  At all.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at May 05, 2012 10:50 AM (sJTmU)

25 "Fuckin awesome. I'm sure the Mexican construction worker guys who shop in LA are gonna spend several hours a week on the care of their fucking reusable grocery bag. " Sure, just like we all "properly dispose of" our mercury infested twirly bulbs.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 05, 2012 10:50 AM (V/Aej)

26 I would love to see a collage of video snippets of the various enhanced interrogation techniques, like face slapping, stripping naked, and water boarding, put to the AC/DC's "Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap".

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 05, 2012 02:47 PM (V/Aej)

-------

I heard there's a pay site that has that.

Posted by: Jimmah at May 05, 2012 10:50 AM (UpwlP)

27 "LA banned both plastic and paper bags the other day. Idea is to force people to use reusable bags. Eco-nazis say it's a "myth" that the reusable bags are unsanitary even though studies show they quickly become infested with e.coli. " On the upside, maybe liberal douchebags will start dying off from e coli. I can dream.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 05, 2012 10:51 AM (V/Aej)

28 What else has been around for 5000 years that doesn't work?



HAHAHAHAHHAAA!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 05, 2012 10:52 AM (piMMO)

29

LA banned both plastic and paper bags the other day.

 

Because the place we need bedbugs is our grocery stores.

Posted by: garrett at May 05, 2012 10:52 AM (EqTSz)

30 He's right....where are the bodies from waterboarding?


****

Rodriguez said that KSM had figured out that they would conduct the pouring sessions in increments of 10 seconds and would count off the seconds with his fingers.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 05, 2012 10:54 AM (piMMO)

31

Am I the only one who would love to sit down one of those idiots with that mornic "Coexist" bumper stickers and force him to watch the video of Daniel Pearl being beheaded?

 

Coexist, indeed.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 05, 2012 10:54 AM (QjeTN)

32 Every leftist eco-fuck was already free to use their diseased, reusable bags already, but that wasn't good enough for them. Noooo,, cause if it's voluntary some people might not bend to the fucking peer pressure. So it has to be compulsory. Mandatory. Fucking douche nozzles.

Posted by: Muhammad's Left Nut at May 05, 2012 10:54 AM (ZPrif)

33 >>Am I the only one who would love to sit down one of those idiots with that mornic "Coexist" bumper stickers and force him to watch the video of Daniel Pearl being beheaded?

Half of them would get boners.

Posted by: Radish A. Radish at May 05, 2012 10:56 AM (hO8IJ)

34 LA banned both plastic and paper bags the other day.
Idea is to force people to use reusable bags.
Eco-nazis say it's a "myth" that the reusable bags are unsanitary even though studies show they quickly become infested with e.coli.
Eco high priests say just use common sense and:
1) Use separate bags for fresh fruit, dairy, and meat products.
2) Regularly wash your bags.
3) Don't store your bags in a warm or moist environment.


*****

I LOVE my reusable bags. I put 3 full plastic bags inside of them to lessen the number of trips from the car.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 05, 2012 10:56 AM (piMMO)

35 Adam Corolla for VP.  Mitt and Adam, that would be some strange bedfellows.

Posted by: dogfish at May 05, 2012 10:57 AM (N2yhW)

36

>>Half of them would get boners.

 

OK, that accounts for the guys. How about the gals, who seem particularly partial to the goddamned "Coexist" stickers?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 05, 2012 10:58 AM (QjeTN)

37

Leslie Stahl makes me uncomfortable.

;;;;:;::

Can I waterboard her?

Posted by: Raw Foodie at May 05, 2012 10:58 AM (Usk3+)

38 Every leftist eco-fuck was already free to use their diseased, reusable bags already, but that wasn't good enough for them. Noooo,, cause if it's voluntary some people might not bend to the fucking peer pressure.


This way it is sure to work. There are no grocery stores in Pasadena.

Posted by: fluffy at May 05, 2012 10:58 AM (z9HTb)

39 Adam Carolla is the Glenn Beck for atheists.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 05, 2012 10:58 AM (jUytm)

40 Off, ancient sock!

Posted by: Meremortal at May 05, 2012 10:59 AM (Usk3+)

41 @27 Yeah, I don't care if the eco-nazis die from e.coli. But I do care if I or my family and friends die from it. Mandating reusable bags basically makes the safety of grocery stores dependent on the least responsible of its patrons.

Posted by: Muhammad's Left Nut at May 05, 2012 11:00 AM (ZPrif)

42 >>2) Regularly wash your bags.

Isn't there an aquifer to the north being depleted to ship water to Southern California? 

Isn't that worse than plastic bags (which are made from the by-products of natural gas production...waste not, want not)?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 05, 2012 11:00 AM (hO8IJ)

43 What if your reusable bag is a plastic bag?

Posted by: Jimmah at May 05, 2012 11:01 AM (UpwlP)

44 Rodriguez said that KSM had figured out that they would conduct the pouring sessions in increments of 10 seconds and would count off the seconds with his fingers.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 05, 2012 02:54 PM


They should have gone to eleven.

Posted by: Nigel T. at May 05, 2012 11:02 AM (RzLbD)

45

It isn't just Kalifornia. Brownsville, TX. already passed a ban and Austin is heading that way.

 

Believe it or not, if all Texas went plastic bag free, it would cost about 9000 jobs.

 

If I have it right, Austin's plan would still allow paper bags but with a fee. I'm guessing this is going to wind up as just another tax.

Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at May 05, 2012 11:02 AM (NVu2l)

46

So les lie condemns Bush for the policies that made terrorists uncomfortable enough to give up some info that led us to Osama. And the left sings praises to Obama for reaping the fruits of those policies.  Not just icky, but very sick.

Posted by: lansing at May 05, 2012 11:02 AM (9/NoY)

47 'ettes..... Clueless is on Comedy Central

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 05, 2012 11:03 AM (piMMO)

48 Vee have vays to make you talk.

Posted by: Col. Hurtz at May 05, 2012 11:03 AM (ULGz+)

49 >>How about the gals, who seem particularly partial to the goddamned "Coexist" stickers?

How many times have Code Pinkos met with the Taliban and other jihadi groups? They've gotta have sexual fantasies about barbaric men.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 05, 2012 11:03 AM (hO8IJ)

50 Mandating reusable bags basically makes the safety of grocery stores dependent on the least responsible of its patrons. Pardon my asking but how does someone else's dirty bag put you at greater risk. I mean, I can see a trivial increase from them putting their dirty bags in the cart but isn't that the same risk you run from them not washing their hands after a bout of the Tijuana Trots and touching the cart?

Posted by: toby928© at May 05, 2012 11:03 AM (NG097)

51 This is what you get when you elect a body of hacks and frauds instead of legislators.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 05, 2012 11:03 AM (jUytm)

52 They should have gone to eleven.


****

Make him wonder, "Is this the day?"

Then again, the entire world depends upon the American people to do the "right" thing. KSM knew that.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 05, 2012 11:04 AM (piMMO)

53 They have not a clue how to run the government of California, which is clearly evident in the current state of the state. That's why instead you get this nonsense and shit like homo marriage and anti-bullying horseshit and hate crime laws.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 05, 2012 11:05 AM (jUytm)

54 We have an orange bag for meat. But we have to tell the packer every time and then watch him/her like a hawk or it won't happen. Cuts down on the washing. Have to ask the War Dept about veggies, we haven't been doing anything special about them.

Posted by: Meremortal at May 05, 2012 11:06 AM (Usk3+)

55 Pardon my asking but how does someone else's dirty bag put you at greater risk. I mean, I can see a trivial increase from them putting their dirty bags in the cart but isn't that the same risk you run from them not washing their hands after a bout of the Tijuana Trots and touching the cart?


****

As you walk in the door at Publix, right next to the carts/buggies, they have a container of anti-bacterial wipes. I use them. There's no telling how many shitty diapers have sat in the section where I place my eggs and bread.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 05, 2012 11:06 AM (piMMO)

56 What if your reusable bag is a plastic bag?

Posted by: Jimmah at May 05, 2012 03:01 PM (UpwlP)

 

Plastic trash bags? That's what I'll do. I'll even shop at the HEB close to UT so I watch the airheads cry.

Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at May 05, 2012 11:06 AM (NVu2l)

57 Eco-nazis say it's a "myth" that the reusable bags are unsanitary even though studies show they quickly become infested with e.coli.

LOL.  It was a myth  that got the whole BAN PLASTIC BAGS BECAUSE THEY STRANGLE FISHIES started in the first place.  Like the UN's lies about melting glaciers and the "science" of it, some jerk misread a paper and thought that fish the world over were sinking to the bottom with plastic grocery bags over their heads and six-pack plastic doodads tying them in knots. 

It was all a typical leftist lie, but it lives.  Just like evil human global warming crap.  Panetta just tried to leverage the global warming scam to divert our military resources, once again.  And at this late date when everyone knows the idiocy and fraud that is "climate research".

Sacagawarren really missed her calling. She's got "climate scientologist" written over 1/32 of her.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 05, 2012 11:07 AM (X3lox)

58 The LA merchants, especially the large chains, need to tell the city to fuck themselves. TRY to enforce it. Then, shut down every grocery store for a week. People would freak. Time to tell these tyrants to pound sand. Maybe it's time for the large chains to close their LA stores permanently. :-)

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at May 05, 2012 11:08 AM (MbeR6)

59 When I search Utube for SNL's Fecal Vision half the entries are for Mariah Carey. Are they trying to tell me something?

Posted by: toby928© at May 05, 2012 11:08 AM (NG097)

60 nood lauraw post

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 05, 2012 11:09 AM (jUytm)

61
Plastic trash bags? That's what I'll do. I'll even shop at the HEB close to UT so I watch the airheads cry.

Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at May 05, 2012 03:06 PM (NVu2l)

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I was thinking more like, buy a pack of 1000 generic shopping bags on Amazon, take the pack into the store and bag the groceries in them. Icing on that would be one bag per item. Then after you get out of prison, write a book.

Posted by: Jimmah at May 05, 2012 11:09 AM (UpwlP)

62 Oh, one more thing.  Leslie Stahl can go f*** herself, with a baseball bat, wrapped in barbed wire. With nails. But, first, she will blow me.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at May 05, 2012 11:10 AM (MbeR6)

63 I only going to use ONE bag for all my needs!

Posted by: Sheryl Crow at May 05, 2012 11:10 AM (Usk3+)

64 >>Then, shut down every grocery store for a week.

Doesn't the cashiers' union do that periodically?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 05, 2012 11:11 AM (hO8IJ)

65 Doesn't the cashiers' union do that periodically?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 05, 2012 03:11 PM (hO8IJ)

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Yes, and why have they turned an entry-level job easily done by an 18 year-old with a week's training into a 40-year career?

''''

Never mind.

Posted by: Meremortal at May 05, 2012 11:14 AM (Usk3+)

66 On further review, Austin is going to allow plastic bags for meat and fish. I imagine people will pay about as much attention to this as they do the smoking ban in bars.

Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at May 05, 2012 11:14 AM (NVu2l)

67 OT:  I went to a "welcome back Iraq Vets" parade up the road this morning.  Can one of you smart military morons put me some f'n knowledge about what service branch this man is representing?  Army?

http://is.gd/zpYMJo

And "Caisson Platoon" makes me think of funerals...is this right?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 05, 2012 11:16 AM (hO8IJ)

68 I hope they don't get too serious about re-using baggies.

Posted by: Stoner at May 05, 2012 11:16 AM (ULGz+)

69 In Lesley Stahl's defense, no one has ever doused the stupid bitch in burning jet fuel for fifteen minutes and then had her jump off the top of a 110 story building.

Posted by: TexasJew at May 05, 2012 11:20 AM (8kWKd)

70 The paper bag is a marvel. It's cheap to produce, and, no, despite reports to the contrary they don't make them out of 2,000 year old redwood trees.; when opened it stands up by itself allowing you to use both hands to fill of unfill it; they line up across the seat and help to support each other; and it has plenty of uses once you take the groceries out of it.

The gucci grocery store in my neighborhood has ones with handles which is even better, very popular around Christmas time when you know you're going to have presents to tote to the family get-together.

I ask for paper if I suspect the checker-outer is a 'save the earther' just to piss them off.

Posted by: Retread at May 05, 2012 11:22 AM (joSBv)

71 Leslie responsibly insists upon a reusable bag for her face.

Posted by: Mr. Stahl at May 05, 2012 11:26 AM (ULGz+)

72 Fucking nazis. Doesn't California have anything better to do with its fucking time? Fuck. Posted by: Muhammad's Left Nut at May 05, 2012 02:46 PM (ZPrif) Of course they have better things to do - which they assiduously avoid in favor of trivial or severe impositions on private budgets or ways-of-life. Because they think they have a right to treat you like a slave. Pardon my asking but how does someone else's dirty bag put you at greater risk. I mean, I can see a trivial increase from them putting their dirty bags in the cart but isn't that the same risk you run from them not washing their hands after a bout of the Tijuana Trots and touching the cart? Posted by: toby928© at May 05, 2012 03:03 PM (NG097) Add the constant flow of germ-and-bug-encrusted bags across the packing area. Also, anything that falls from the bags as the drooling idiots slowly weave throughout the entire store. And for that matter every other form of contact you'd be likely to have with someone who carries plague-infected blankets (sorry, cloth grocery bags) in their trunk. It's almost as if thousands of years of improvements in sanitation had suddenly become some kind of affront. I would be seriously unsurprised if some of the proponents of these idiot rules actually hoped for an increase in the spread of communicable diseases.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 05, 2012 11:27 AM (bxiXv)

73 Yeah, I can't really say I'd protest a return to paper bags. I miss them from my youth.

Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at May 05, 2012 11:28 AM (NVu2l)

74 ...I've reused baggies.  And alumninum foil. These things happen when you learn homemaking from women who married and had their families during the Great Depression. 

But taking crackers to work for lunch and then using the baggie to take crackers to work for lunch a second day is different than buying fruit or meat and watching a cashier put it on a counter that just held someone else's nasty meat-juice infused canvas hippie bag. 

Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 05, 2012 11:28 AM (hO8IJ)

75 I just finished listening to the entire Carolla piece.

I couldn't agree with him more.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 05, 2012 11:29 AM (piMMO)

76 There was a rash of great mockery on Twitter yesterday and last night on the OWS crowd.  One:

; font-weight: bold;">If you believe pouring water on a terrorist's face is torture, but throwing urine and feces at the police is free speech #YouMightBeAnOccupier

Posted by: Adjoran at May 05, 2012 11:30 AM (VfmLu)

77

So what are we going to pick up our dog poop with?

 

Posted by: TexasJew at May 05, 2012 11:31 AM (8kWKd)

78 Also, Leslie Stahl thinks being given Ensure is a form of "Orwellian" fascist terror-state torture. So, she's a bit of a... shall we say "developmentally disabled person." Which is sad that CBS put her on TV for people to point and laugh. Wait a second... Leslie Stahl... CBS... Advocating for Al Qaeda terrorist Khalid Sheikh Mohammed... Recent document dump indicates CBS is the favorite network of Al Qaeda... Things that make you go "Hmmmm..."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 05, 2012 11:34 AM (bxiXv)

79 Seriously, eliminating plastic grocery bags doesn't do anything at all for the environment.  They are made from byproducts of petroleum, so no special mining or drilling is needed to get the raw materials.

The claims of environmental damage from discarded bags is one of the most ridiculously exaggerated myths of the environwacko movement.  There is no widespread damage to animals or fish, and they do not cause floods in Bangladesh (but even if they did, that wouldn't be a reason not to use them in LA).

Pretty much all of the claims of the greenies are just plain false, ever since Rachel Carson's Silent Spring whopper that DDT caused weakened bird eggshells.

Posted by: Adjoran at May 05, 2012 11:36 AM (VfmLu)

80 ..I've reused baggies.

I've long reused all my plastic bags.  They are great little trash bags after you get the stuff home and it's good to have a bunch around for whenever you need to bag something up.  And they don't take up any space.

Lately, however, many of the plastic bags seem to come with little holes in the bottom, which precludes their use as garbage bags (you know, for little wastebaskets and the like),  Now, that is a waste.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 05, 2012 11:55 AM (X3lox)

81 Notice that the "progressives" aren't banning disposable diapers or feminine hygiene products. They'd sooner tell Muslims that Mohammed was a sheep shagger.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 05, 2012 11:58 AM (QjeTN)

82 Carolla is wrong, they don't hate us for our lifestyle, they hate us because their religious doctrine instructs them to hate us.

Posted by: lowandslow at May 05, 2012 12:08 PM (GZitp)

83 They hate us because we are not them.

Posted by: Not Them at May 05, 2012 12:11 PM (ULGz+)

84 Carolla is wrong, they don't hate us for our lifestyle, they hate us because their religious doctrine instructs them to hate us.

Posted by: lowandslow at May 05, 2012 04:08 PM (GZitp)



They hate us because they hate their themselves and they blame their self-hate on their fathers.  Liberals have major problems dealing with their fathers.  That gets projected onto everyone and everything that reminds them of their fathers and they want to destroy it. 

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 05, 2012 12:12 PM (X3lox)

85 67 That's Army, HeatherRadish.

Posted by: Kanye West at May 05, 2012 12:14 PM (IoNBC)

86 Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 05, 2012 03:16 PM (hO8IJ) ---- The Caison Platon is part of the "Old Guard" and yes its Army. They used to haul around field artillery andammo, but nw they only do funerals. They're the only unit that still uses horses IIRC. I found a link to the Army's info on Caison Platoon http://is.gd/lR0jOp

Posted by: Lurkasaurus at May 05, 2012 12:16 PM (sJKFk)

87 "They hate us because we are not them."

"They hate us because they hate their themselves and they blame their self-hate on their fathers."


This is what drives me nuts about some conservatives, you're buying into the liberal narrative about this. They don't give a fuck about our lifestyle or because of self loathing or anything other superficial reason. They hate us because their religion dictates it, the end. When you ignore that you're giving Islam a pass.

Posted by: lowandslow at May 05, 2012 12:21 PM (GZitp)

88 When you ignore that you're giving Islam a pass.

Posted by: lowandslow at May 05, 2012 04:21 PM (GZitp)



Oops.  My mistake, lowandslow.  I was talking about American Lefitsts.  I wasn't following your whole conversation.

Sorry.  You are certainly correct that muslims hate us because islam demands it.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 05, 2012 12:24 PM (X3lox)

89 Obviously, reading the post and watching the vid is optional ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 05, 2012 12:25 PM (X3lox)

90 Islam demands Islamics hate us because we are not Islamic.

Posted by: Not Them at May 05, 2012 12:26 PM (ULGz+)

91 Heather--he's an Army First Sergeant. The diamond between the chevrons indicates he's the senior enlisted man...nearly unfuckwithable.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 05, 2012 12:37 PM (uSQde)

92 Stand up and fight back! We are the 85%!

Posted by: I am mad as hell and I am not going to take it anymore at May 05, 2012 12:38 PM (czhLF)

93 Leslie Stahl--God's answer to a pending shortage of morons.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at May 05, 2012 12:42 PM (6USwK)

94 Heather--he's an Army First Sergeant. The diamond between the chevrons indicates he's the senior enlisted man...nearly unfuckwithable.

If I'm not mistaken, he is what used to be called a Master Sergeant.  At least when my father was in the army - 1916-1943.

Posted by: Grandma Mimi at May 05, 2012 12:46 PM (roHFn)

95 A CBS reporter feeling smugly morally superior and better than the professional that protects her life? The deuce you say!

Posted by: Frank G at May 05, 2012 01:08 PM (cJqu0)

96 I live in a backwards state.  Eggs come in cartons and aren't exposed to crap on the cashiers stand.   We get special very thin plastic bags to put any bulk produce in etc etc so no food ever has to be exposed the cart or anything else.

  Thank goodness because I am lazy about washing stuff even though there is no way I ought to depend on the hygiene of produce pickers.   But mostly I buy frozen veggies etc.  Stuff that certainly can go into  a non sterile canvas bag.    It is dumb for cities to outlaw certain types of shopping bags but I don't see how it exposes me to any extra germs.  


Posted by: PaleRider at May 05, 2012 01:22 PM (ITaIZ)

97 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at May 05, 2012 02:26 PM (7W3wI)

98  67,

He's an First Sergeant with the Old Guard, a ceremonial unit with many funereal duties. Wikipedia has a decent description. My current Platoon Sergeant was with them.

94,

Master Sergeant still exists and is the same grade. First Sergeant is a position and a rank. E-8 without the position is Master Sergeant and lacks the diamond in the middle of his rank. First Sergeant is the highest NCO in a Company and next to the XO (First Lieutenant usually) in helping the Company Commander (Captain).

There may be some exceptions to this but that's generally how it's supposed to be. For example, we had a Master Sergeant temporarily serve as our Sergeant Major and my brother (a Second Lieutenant) is an acting XO (but he's National Guard and promotions work differently there).

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Posted by: Hard Country epub at May 08, 2012 05:11 AM (BZ8t+)

102 Sorry, but Carolla is dead wrong on this one.  The US doesn't and shouldn't torture, bottom line.  And if you don't think that this stuff counts as "cruel and unusual punishment" then you are out of your mind.

The whole point of the Bill of Rights and the Constitution is that it must be enforced even when it's not popular to do so.  I feel the same way about this that I do about the Ground Zero Mosque.

Our rules exist for a reason, and breaking them completely undermines what America stands for.

Posted by: David at May 08, 2012 09:41 AM (BaAJ8)

103 Leslie Stahl's "fascination" with Islamists. It has been a long career of pro-Islamism "research," by this eloquent reporter for CBS' 60min. In the latest example (May, 13, 2012 http://www.cbsnews.com/2718-18560_162-962.html) she made  a piece about Gulen, the Turkish Islamic cleric/tycoon who "funds" schools in the US and turns them into revenues for his global empire. In quoting blogs that criticize Gulen as having a hidden Islamic agenda, she confronted one of Gulen's representatives about it, but instead of waiting for an answer from the man, Leslie jumped and PROVIDED an answer of her own... " Would you say it's Islamophobia..?" The man, of course, agreed to the provided "answer." This is typical Leslie Stahl. In fact, the entire program was not focused on the American English teacher who was fired for the sake of replacing her with a Turkish teacher... but on her fascination with the Turkish cleric. She was so memorized by his wealth... All you saw from her was, awe. Some "fearless" reporter, seeking the "truth," alright.  (I remember, she once [last year] took an Arab-Palestinian word... his ficticious claim that he has been in the area for... "hundreds" of years... at face value. Never mind that no Arab can prove any connection to the land of the Jews beyond the 1800s... Or the latest admission from the horse's mouth - Hamas to Egyptian media that "Palestinians" are basically half from Egypt, the other half from other Arab land...) Here are some suggestions to Leslie, if she were to be a bit less bias... Let's see a bit reporting on the Goliath. Not just in power and size, but in... intolerance! 1 - Checkout the usual venomous sermons in "moderate" mosques. Why not pick the March 15, 2012 example of top Islamic authority (mufti) calling to destroy all churches. Or the latest "moderate" Islamists (Egypt) call for jihad to march on Jerusalem as capital of a Caliphate? 2 - Scrutinize the ocean of racism against non-Arabs from Arabia to Sudan (Afro-Arabs, massacring millions of non-Arab natives); Mauritania (slavery), through Iraq (Assyrians, Kurds, Blacks, Yazidis, etc., all still discriminated against); Syria (the Alawite apartheid genocidal regime), Libya, Gulf states (Oman, Kuwait, S. Arabia, Qatar, UAE, where Asian workers/slaves are constructing their impressive buildings, and/or Asian maids are basically sex-slaves); N. Africa (e.g. Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, not just blacks, but Berbers natives to the land,  have for too long suffered immensely); Lebanon (which hosts 200,000 living in the same slavery conditions as the African slave/maid who committed suicide this year. Or the Ahmadis as well as children of black slaves at the hands of) Palestinian-Arabs; (the Dom-gypsies in) Jordan; (the indigenous al-Akhdam in) Yemen, etc.  Just because Arab Christians fear for their lives and won't speak on camera against totalitarian Palestinian Islamic-apartheid, doesn't mean, CBS should be silent.... These are just the tip of the iceberg, non-Muslims are either second or third in almost all Muslim land. Not just in Iran/Pakistan/Afghanistan/S.Arabia/Palestinian-Authority/Egypt, etc. Even in "moderate" Turkey, especially on Cyprus. 3 - Scrutinize the pro terror CAIR Islamic lobby (tied to criminal al-Arian). 4 - Heck, you can even make a 'special' on dehumanization in Islamic schools. The favorite one is of course the sick notion that Christians are pigs and Jews as apes. 5 - Last but not least, for CBS info... Terrorism against non-Muslims such as in Nigeria, Russia,  Egypt, China, Israel, India, Philippines, Thailand, etc., or even against Muslims who are 'not Muslim enough...' by jihadists, such as in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Somalia, Iraq, etc., is also intolerance, and a very bloody one!

Posted by: Pierre at May 14, 2012 05:09 AM (uOY6z)

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