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February 26, 2012

Afghanistan Violence Sparked By Poor Rubbish Disposal Procedures Continues Apace
— andy

U.S. military officials say eight American soldiers were wounded Sunday during a violent protest outside a U.S. forward operating base in Afghanistan's Kunduz province. The Americans were wounded when one of the protesters apparently hurled a grenade into the compound. The extent of the injuries was unclear.
The attack occurred as 400 demonstrators stormed the American outpost to protest the inadvertent burning of Qurans at the U.S. Bagram airbase north of Kabul. More than two dozen people, including four U.S. troops, have been killed since Tuesday, after the Qurans and religious materials had been thrown into a fire pit used to burn garbage.

I guess they didn't get word that Obama apologized. Maybe he should visit in person and give a speech or play some golf or something. I hear their sand traps are amazing.

Andy McCarthy has a must-read piece on the apologizer-in-chief over at NRO.

We have officially lost our minds.
The New York Times reports that President Obama has sent a formal letter of apology to AfghanistanÂ’s ingrate president, Hamid Karzai, for the burning of Korans at a U.S. military base. The only upside of the apology is that it appears (based on the Times account) to be couched as coming personally from our blindly Islamophilic president Â— Â“I wish to express my deep regret for the reported incident. . . . I extend to you and the Afghani people my sincere apologies.Â” It is not couched as an apology from the American people, whose frame of mind will be outrage, not contrition, as the facts become more widely known.

Now is this any way to treat the hero who personally offed bin Ladin? Read the whole thing.

As far as the current situation goes, there sure doesn't seem to be much upside to our continued presence in that little slice of the third world, does there?

Posted by: andy at 03:33 PM | Comments (81)
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1 No sense in staying if the only mission is to give Obama political cover until after the election.

Posted by: real joe at February 26, 2012 03:36 PM (w7Lv+)

2 nuke em

Posted by: Pecos at February 26, 2012 03:36 PM (2Gb0y)

3 Just think, only 329 more days to go! And as each one goes by, I get the sickening feeling that there may be 1,460 more after that.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 26, 2012 03:38 PM (Af3Wg)

4 Hush JJ you'll make it happen

Posted by: Pecos at February 26, 2012 03:40 PM (2Gb0y)

5 HAH.. ok, I'll put it back up later.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at February 26, 2012 03:45 PM (PjVdx)

6 Posted by: Pecos at February 26, 2012 07:40 PM (2Gb0y) Yeah, just call me Mr. Jinx ("How do you milk a cat, Focker?")

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 26, 2012 03:45 PM (Af3Wg)

7 What happened to the Academy Award thread? I had some pithy remarks and it got zapped.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 26, 2012 03:46 PM (Af3Wg)

8 LOL!

Posted by: Pecos at February 26, 2012 03:46 PM (2Gb0y)

9 253 days until election day.

Posted by: Truman North at February 26, 2012 03:47 PM (I2LwF)

10 They really do have tiny nipples, don't they?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 26, 2012 03:47 PM (Af3Wg)

11 Turn Mecca into a sheet of glass. Problem solved.

Posted by: Cast Iron at February 26, 2012 03:48 PM (EL+OC)

12 7 What happened to the Academy Award thread? I had some pithy remarks and it got zapped.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 26, 2012 07:46 PM (Af3Wg)

No shit, right? What the fuck is this, DummycraticUnderground???

Posted by: My Sharia Moor at February 26, 2012 03:48 PM (PET8M)

I'll put it back in a bit..

no promises about your pissy remarks.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at February 26, 2012 03:48 PM (PjVdx)

14 Will it be Morning in America or Mourning America?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 26, 2012 03:48 PM (Af3Wg)

15 One of the commentors at gateway pundit had a great idea: take an unmarked plane and drop burning korans onto the populace below. They will become so enraged, they will kill each other off.

/Oh, wait, the rage isn't real? It's just an excuse to kill Infidels and act like barbarians? Really? Oh, then that idea won't work.

//how about dropping porn? Or Obama? Can we drop Obama from a plane in the ME and let him stay there to apologize... forever?

Posted by: shibumi at February 26, 2012 03:48 PM (z63Tr)

16 You know what, fuck it, turn it into a sheet of glass for all I care. When you refuse to abide by the rules of civilization, you are not entitled to the protections of civilization.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at February 26, 2012 03:49 PM (Gk3SS)

17 Thanks Dave. Now go get your shine box. Or considering where you are, your Shiner Bock.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 26, 2012 03:49 PM (Af3Wg)

18 J.J.: Yeah, but if you rub them... .

Posted by: CMU VET at February 26, 2012 03:50 PM (Txumn)

/Oh, wait, the rage isn't real? It's just an excuse to kill Infidels and act like barbarians? Really? Oh, then that idea won't work.

Then we can know for sure it's fake, and go on burning korans and ignoring their cries of fake outrage. And fight back when they do stupid shit. Fucking 7th century shitbags.

Posted by: Truman North at February 26, 2012 03:50 PM (I2LwF)

20 We should have just unloaded and Ohio class on the place the day after 9-11 and been done with it.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at February 26, 2012 03:52 PM (CAaOx)

21 Is this the part where I get called a paranoid stalking obsessive asshole again? Either way, yeah: let's leave. We showed them some civilisation, most of them have decided that they could manage without it, so let's indulge them.

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at February 26, 2012 03:52 PM (QTHTd)

22 Posted by: CMU VET at February 26, 2012 07:50 PM (Txumn) If I rub them my cat will scratch my eyes out.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 26, 2012 03:52 PM (Af3Wg)

23 If you kill people because they burned your holy book, then there is something wrong with your book and with you. We need to start killing the rioters in large numbers and show them how easy it is for us to do it.

Posted by: eman at February 26, 2012 03:53 PM (dFcKO)

24 Kill them all. Let allah(sic) sort 'em out. Like rabid dogs they are not fixable.

Posted by: CMU VET at February 26, 2012 03:54 PM (Txumn)

25 I haven't read all the comments but, has anyone noted that Barry is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure yet?

Posted by: that guy that doesn't read all the comments at February 26, 2012 03:54 PM (GTbGH)

26
Apologizing just encourages these slime. They smell fear like a bear searching for a dumpster.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 26, 2012 03:55 PM (r+9M6)

27 At the first sign of real trouble, these cowards don burqas and hide in mosques, or surrender in droves. Mow them the fuck down already.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 26, 2012 03:56 PM (Af3Wg)

28 15 One of the commentors at gateway pundit had a great idea: take an unmarked plane and drop burning korans onto the populace below. They will become so enraged, they will kill each other off.

/Oh, wait, the rage isn't real? It's just an excuse to kill Infidels and act like barbarians? Really? Oh, then that idea won't work.

//how about dropping porn? Or Obama? Can we drop Obama from a plane in the ME and let him stay there to apologize... forever?

Posted by: shibumi at February 26, 2012 07:48 PM (z63Tr)

I'm glad to see someone else shares my typical train of thought. It makes me feel less insane. In fact, I think this might be main stream these days.

Posted by: dagny at February 26, 2012 03:58 PM (u50z0)

29 They're always looking for an excuse to be pissed off. I say we give them a legitimate one

Posted by: Ronster at February 26, 2012 03:58 PM (T1nDt)

30 Riots in the street? Streets make excellent fields of fire. Lock and load and watch, your lane.

Posted by: Mr Fever Head at February 26, 2012 03:59 PM (SzAZ7)

31 Like I said in the open thread below, my cynical mind thinks that Obama's cynical campaign did this for the same reason they turned the abortion hose on the Catholics. Create a diversion made to inflame the opposition, and by doing so, fire up the base.

The left can wrap themselves in righteousness and say, "Why do we apologise? Because it is what we do."

Posted by: I am the walrus, goo goo ga joo at February 26, 2012 04:00 PM (4sQwu)

32 I suggest you do read the rest of the article. Very eye opening...

Posted by: the hobbit fomerly known as Donna at February 26, 2012 04:01 PM (qmF3d)

33 The problem is that Western Civilization is an aberration in the course of human events. We gave Iraq and Afghanistan a glimpse of it by shedding the blood of our young warriors and expending our national treasure. Many of us knew it was a futile exercise and have been proven right. Enough of the practioners of the RoP have apparently elected to forgo the chance to live among the few civilizations left. We should leave quickly, taking all the heavy weapons and money with us. I think it might not be a bad idea to leave a lot of small arms behind to facilitate the advance of their version of civilization as they hopefully kill off each other in search of the true religion.

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 26, 2012 04:01 PM (i3+c5)

34 Ya know, when I said back in the first gulf war that we should just turn it into glass and suck out the oil and everyone gasped, well, I was right. At the time I didn't know to include Afghanistan but they would probably have gotten the hint.

Posted by: dagny at February 26, 2012 04:01 PM (u50z0)

35 I love the saying, "God will judge our enemies. It's our job to arrange the meeting."

Posted by: CMU VET at February 26, 2012 04:01 PM (Txumn)

36 Posted by: dagny at February 26, 2012 08:01 PM (u50z0)

Remember to thank Colin Powell for that!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 26, 2012 04:03 PM (i3+c5)

37 As Admiral Halsey said about the Japanese after Pearl Harbor, "When we're finished with them, the only place Japanese will be spoken is in hell." It's only 75 short years ago. Dear Lord.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 26, 2012 04:04 PM (Af3Wg)

38 I don't usually make a habit of apologizing to anyone that professes some delusional sense of cultural superiority while taking a shit in a hole in the ground. Most rational people don't, either.

Problem is, we're being led by a colossal fuckwit who only has two spawn because Ayers and Dorhn once told him it made for better optics.

Posted by: My Sharia Moor at February 26, 2012 04:05 PM (PET8M)

39 Time to release our Taliban prisoners. I suggest we release them from the back of a C-130 flying over Kabul. I swear I thought those turkeys could fly.

Posted by: Mr Fever Head at February 26, 2012 04:05 PM (SzAZ7)

40 Colon blow Powell, indeed. Race before Country and its military.

Posted by: CMU VET at February 26, 2012 04:05 PM (Txumn)

41 If Obama pulls out now, he will get blamed for the situation. If he keeps the troops in, people will blame the GOP for the situation. It probably is that simple, for this administration.

Posted by: Daryl Herbert at February 26, 2012 04:07 PM (n/g2M)

42 They smell fear like a bear searching for a dumpster.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 26, 2012 07:55 PM (r+9M6)

The also smell underage virgin male ass like Eric Boehlert at a Cub Scout meeting.

Posted by: My Sharia Moor at February 26, 2012 04:08 PM (PET8M)

43 At least Muslim leaders around the world are speaking up to encourage Afghans to be peaceful, and are condemning the violent rhetoric and incitement from Afghan clerics. We can count on our Muslim friends around the world!

Posted by: Daryl Herbert at February 26, 2012 04:09 PM (n/g2M)

44 My Catholic faith requires tolerance, but even now I have seen enough from the "religion of peace". It's time to stop apologizing to murderers. The time has come to take them on with everything we have. Kill them. Kill them all.

Posted by: basket case nation at February 26, 2012 04:11 PM (kqbIK)

45 With friends like that.. .

Posted by: CMU VET at February 26, 2012 04:11 PM (Txumn)

46 I cannot disagree with anything Mr McCarthy wrote. Succinct.

Posted by: L Rob in OK at February 26, 2012 04:14 PM (7yvLv)

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told an audience of Arab students in Tunisia on Saturday to not pay any attention to the rhetoric and comments made by the Republican candidates vying for President Barack ObamaÂ’s job, saying their rhetoric does not reflect U.S. policy.

According to CNN, ClintonÂ’s remarks came in response to a question from a Tunisian student in the audience who asked about the pro-Israel stance of nearly every American politician

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Â“There are comments made that certainly donÂ’t reflect the United States, donÂ’t reflect our foreign policy, donÂ’t reflect who we are as a people. If you go to the United States you see mosques everywhere, you see Muslim Americans everywhere. ThatÂ’s the fact. So I would not pay attention to the rhetoric.Â”

(From the Blaze)

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at February 26, 2012 04:29 PM (1ZF7c)

48 The mob is told wantever the Imams want to tell the. With them being the experts at lying. SCoaMF could personal execute 100 officers and line up the heads as payment and no one on the ground would hear about it.

Posted by: Tjexcite at February 26, 2012 04:30 PM (sk1Ym)

Should have turned over the place to Billy Fish when we had the chance.

Posted by: Zombie Peachey Carnehan at February 26, 2012 04:31 PM (vjyZP)

50 Anybody else notice how misdirected the apologies are?
When is Barry going to say how sorry is he to Allah?

Posted by: Gerry at February 26, 2012 04:33 PM (1XLOL)

51 Pull our people out and drop a few nukes.

I'm mostly kidding when I say this...partly...a little...

Posted by: Sgt. York at February 26, 2012 04:39 PM (NsuAS)

52
This makes me wonder how long it will take to float the idea of cutting all funding to Iraq. Like the Dems did in Vietnam.

Then they could fuck Iraq the same way.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 26, 2012 04:43 PM (SAMxH)

53 Posted by: irongrampa at February 26, 2012 08:43 PM (SAMxH)

Aren't the "savings" already in Obama's budget proposal?

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 26, 2012 04:47 PM (i3+c5)

The Afghan people are a bunch of illiterate goat fuckets stuck in the 4th centurey, not worth one more drop of American blood or one more cent from the American taxpayers. They don't want to improve their lives, they don't like us and we can't trust them. If the Taliban come back in our absence, handle them with an assassination force and drones, but stop the idiot idea of nation building for people who are much more comfortabale shitting by the side of the road than using a toilet.

Posted by: Moe Ron at February 26, 2012 04:47 PM (1TLJ9)

55 View this as an opportunity. Map the locus of rioter, violence, etc. Identify responsible mosques, imams, local big men, and apply Hellfire. Burn some more korans, or commission some pithy cartoons. Repeat. If you can't teach them, or breed it out of them, then burn it out.

Posted by: Jean at February 26, 2012 04:47 PM (ICwOo)

56 Gah! We should never have moved troops into Afghanistan. As Derbyshire says, we took a perfectly good exercise in gunboat diplomacy and turned into this nation-building foolishness. Keeping these primitives in line is what heavy bombers are for.

Posted by: Ace's liver at February 26, 2012 04:50 PM (1+XRG)

57 Kinda reminds me of a time when I was working with a lot of SF types (c. 2004) and suggested to one that maybe we should try cutting off all funds to them... just to see how much they really like us... if it goes badly we go old style total war on them.

Posted by: Rmoney at February 26, 2012 04:51 PM (7MFxV)

I don't understand why Chris Mathews can't just replay Obama's Cairo speech and make everyone in the Muslim world love us again, since it made them all suddenly fall in love with us the first time! And as I recall no less than Diane Sawyer and Brian Williams even confirmed it and put their reputations behind it! You can take those to the damn bank, right?

It's not like our "most trusted names" are jerking us around here - Hell, if that was true, then we couldn't even believe in settled science like Global Warming, could we?

Posted by: sherlock at February 26, 2012 05:07 PM (8ra42)

59 I like how they use the word protest to describe people throwing grenades at our soldiers. That's a protest. Because protests are liberal democracy in action and the kind of thing John Stuart Mill valued.

Wait... what's a grenade again?

Posted by: Dustin at February 26, 2012 05:10 PM (wcT+8)

60 Yeah, wonderful. Now every Afghan woman who saw hope, who breathed a moment of fresh air, who encouraged her daughter to learn to read - all of them condemned. Brutally. Hopelessly. God (not Allah, damn him!) help those poor women who had the idiocy to trust the US troops, only to find out that the troops do not set the mission.

Take a moment to contemplate their despair. Turning the place into glass would be a mercy to them.

Posted by: Spear Parts at February 26, 2012 05:10 PM (WtunW)

Proper rubbish disposal would leave the country depopulated. duh.

Posted by: chuck in st paul at February 26, 2012 05:13 PM (lsX/a)

62 This is a direct result of our pc let's make friends at the same time we wage ware BS. We haven't successfully rebuilt a country since WWII. The reason it worked there is we defeated our enemy. An enemy is defeated when he crawls to you and begs you to stop. In the mean time we squander the lives of our young men and women. I thought tis guy knew Chicago rules. Oh that's right Obama isn't on our side.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at February 26, 2012 05:14 PM (JKNDp)

63 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at February 26, 2012 05:28 PM (7W3wI)

64 Why does Obama hate brown skinned people?

Posted by: Beto at February 26, 2012 05:32 PM (lpWVn)

65 May I respectfully suggest we nuke them all to glass, spray the now smooth and shiny terrain with Windex, wrap our feet with Handi-Wipes, and go skating at midnight? All. The Force won't even hiccup.

Posted by: Thorvald at February 26, 2012 05:35 PM (OhenJ)

66 Burn A-Stan down and be done with it

Posted by: Curtis LeMay at February 26, 2012 05:35 PM (VDbQY)

67 Our Weak Government Must Stop Apologizing for Criminal Behavior of Others 27 February 2012 The recent Koran-burning in Afghanistan has again inspired lunacy and murder.Â And while the US civilian and military leadership burdened by their oleaginous apologies tumbles down a moral stairwell, Afghan security forces continue to murder American and Coalition troops.Â Insider violence persists at an increasing rate.Â Approximately 200 Coalition members have been killed or wounded in nearly fifty documented Â“green on blueÂ” attacks. Noticeably absent from the airwaves is a definitive apology from Afghan President Hamid Karzai, and a vow to fight this treachery committed by his troops.Â Instead, we are likely to hear Karzai whining about night raids that his own troops help conduct every night. We should immediately cut off all aid to Afghanistan until we hear a public apology from Karzai, and a denouncement from Karzai of Coalition murders by Afghan troops.Â We should end all unnecessarily joint operations, training, and support of Afghan forces until we have public assurances from Karzai that the Afghan government strongly condemns the increasing murders of Coalition members.Â Armed Afghans should not be allowed onto US aircraft.Â Our people do missions every night with armed Afghans on our helicopters.Â It would be nothing to take down a CH-47 from the inside. It is time that we redeploy our main battle force home and disentangle ourselves from AfPak.

Posted by: Jose at February 26, 2012 05:44 PM (e8kgV)

Posted by: nike tn at February 26, 2012 05:51 PM (wdvQn)

69 It's always good when the American President grovels at the feet of murderers. Obama's freak parents must be proud.

Posted by: whatever at February 26, 2012 05:57 PM (i/wm2)

I only have three things to say about this; FUCK EM,FUCK EM and last but not least, FUCK THEM ALL!

I feel better, who's up for a cold one?

Posted by: Rich K at February 26, 2012 06:19 PM (X4l3T)

We gave them a chance to bring their sorry asses to the here and now. Most of them bite the hand that is feeding them. Pull out all the troops, battle gear and all foreign aid in the area. Let them pray to their god for help.

They are not worth the lives of Americans.

If they start anti-American camps, take them out. They only understand fear. That's their M.O.

Apologies are seen as weakness. Let them kill each other when we leave. Enough !

Posted by: seamrog at February 26, 2012 06:39 PM (KWNSO)

"As far as the current situation goes, there sure doesn't seem to be much upside to our continued presence in that little slice of the third world, does there?"

No, Andy there doesnt.

Posted by: MikeD at February 26, 2012 07:09 PM (p8QOg)

I doubt that any of those excrement sodden vermin can read their own language let alone the inflammatory garbage written in Arabic in those training manuals of hate, destruction and death. Indee d, their indoctrination and intellectual atrophy are complete. These mental defectives are a patent threat to humanity the world over. It's time to quit the country with our people, equipment and money and let some other fool step in to safeguard the Rothschild interests in the region. Alas, it won't happen because we are owned by the forces that control these matters.

Money masters

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Owners of America

http://tinyurl.com/3q2s7xl

They lied to us Destruction of America

http://tinyurl.com/4yhubw8

Rothschild

http://tinyurl.com/7zr62xk

Posted by: LarryG at February 26, 2012 07:09 PM (q9LWi)

74 Atomic bombs. All over Afghanistan. Also, all over Iran. Syria. Pakistan. Egypt, Libya, Saudi Arabia, Chechen, etc. Everywhere Islam exists, nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 26, 2012 08:27 PM (i0App)

75 Lets see: Women Driving? No Gay Marrige?: No Education for women?: No Equal Rites?: No Genital Mutilation?: Yes Pedophilia?: Yes Honor killing?: Yes Arranged marriage?: Yes A man sticking his dick in a boys ass?: Yes Atomic Bomb?: Yes - Let's drop it now.

Posted by: Mr Fever Head at February 27, 2012 12:10 AM (SzAZ7)

76 It isn't so cut and dry.

Leaving now is abandoning those who support us there. Yeah, there are such folks. Abandoning them to their fate would remind me a lot of the killing fields after Vietnam. It would remind me of George HW Bush's failure in Iraq.

We would have to come back.

These attacks are meant to make us give up. We have a terrible president and our strategy isn't working. There is some sense in a major pullback and some hardened bases so we can get out and take out bad guys once in a while, which is an idea mentioned by this blog every now and then. But leaving entirely would ultimately come back and bite us in the ass and we would find even fewer allies in country.

I think we should have a few much smaller forces with a much looser ROE, to the point where no one even approaches them. But I also think Afghanistan is utterly hopeless geographically. I think Afghanistan must be joined to a neighboring country for there to be much hope for it.

Posted by: Dustin at February 27, 2012 03:34 AM (wcT+8)

Dustin, there isn't a neighboring country that wants them. Who would?

The people who support us need to realize their lives it is time for them to step up, pick a side and quit dithering. They are not outnumbered by the Taliban, the just don't have the will to confront them. It's easier to let us do it, then sit back and point the finger when things--as they inevitable do, go awry.

How did they even find out about the Korans? Anybody know?

Posted by: spongeworthy at February 27, 2012 04:26 AM (puy4B)

78 MFM: The protests were "mostly peaceful."

Posted by: DavidW at February 27, 2012 05:47 AM (hAiC2)

79 As far as the current situation goes, there sure doesn't seem to be much upside to our continued presence in that little slice of the third world, does there? Actually, there is. It let's us determine how effective our weapons are.

Posted by: blindside at February 27, 2012 06:18 AM (3Uns6)

80 Nuke 'em till they glow.

Then shoot 'em in the dark.

McCarthy's conclusion, that if they're so uncivilized they shouldn't be allowed into civilized countries, is so on the mark, and so needed to be said. If only someone with guts and power were listening.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at February 27, 2012 06:59 AM (WuRdj)

81 Wait a minute...we ACCIDENTALLY burn Korans and Obama issues an apology, but when our government SUBSIDIZED "art" showing a crucifix in a container of urine we got nothing but lame excuses? It's almost as if liberalism isn't driven by consistency.

Posted by: me at February 27, 2012 10:16 AM (seIwM)

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