August 23, 2012
— Ace That'll work.
Another winner from the House of Ideas.
“The fact that Claire McCaskill is only polling at 48% after 72 hours of constant negative attacks on Todd Akin shows just how weak she is. If she can’t break fifty percent after a week like this, Democrats should ask Claire to step down. Todd is in this race to win; we will close this gap and win in November with the support of the grassroots in Missouri and across America.”
Oh, and in the poll (I think this is a result only available to subscribers) Akin's polling at 47% very unfavorable. Not unfavorable; very unfavorable. Just shy of half the state. Corrected: 47%, not 48%.
McCaskill also reacted to the Rasmussen poll, saying it "made her laugh out loud" to propose she was only at 48%.
I misunderstood the point of McCaskill's tweet. She's trying to say it's ludicrous that she's so far ahead, in order to encourage her designated patsy to remain in the race.
Jesus God, McCaskill is actually plumping Akin's chances, while Republicans are despairing.
Is this stupid selfish man capable of seeing the world beyond his ego?
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Posted by: El Kabong at August 23, 2012 10:25 AM (tBduy)
Posted by: eureka! at August 23, 2012 10:26 AM (1qHOu)
i suppose i should be surprised, butHe doesn't seem to grasp how much daamage he is doing, or just doesn't care.
i've read you have to have a pretty inflated ego to put yourself out there.
still.
just not helpful.
Posted by: willow at August 23, 2012 10:26 AM (TomZ9)
Posted by: French Soldier at August 23, 2012 10:26 AM (96M6e)
Posted by: Robert at August 23, 2012 10:26 AM (R4pS5)
Posted by: Mikey NTH wondering if the water in Missouri is being tested at August 23, 2012 10:27 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Avi at August 23, 2012 10:27 AM (Gx3Fe)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 23, 2012 10:27 AM (8y9MW)
Never mind that he's also getting a whole lotta peoples' 15 minutes, too....
Did Bark Obama get indicted? Did the economy miraculously improve overnight? Did we clean up A'stan? Are all our problems over?
No? Well, Moar Atkins!
Posted by: MrScribbler at August 23, 2012 10:28 AM (wZI4b)
Posted by: Lou at August 23, 2012 10:28 AM (xp1pq)
Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at August 23, 2012 10:28 AM (VMcoS)
Posted by: Golan Globus at August 23, 2012 10:28 AM (/1U3u)
I want to stop talking about Akin, but we can't he's dragging everyone down with him. The Republicans need to start a write in campaign. Make it as clear as possible to Akin that we'll sabatoge him if we have to.
He can't win on his own. He needs to get out now via court order.
Posted by: Ben at August 23, 2012 10:28 AM (C2Y4l)
Posted by: Gerry at August 23, 2012 10:28 AM (kycA/)
Looking forward to the anarchists tents blowing all to hell and Joey Biden standing in the wind and rain looking lost.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 23, 2012 10:28 AM (UOM48)
so what are we to do about this "Akin" problem?
shoot him?
cement boots?
mysterious heart attack?
what?
only fools play the outrage game, don't engage them, ignore them
Posted by: Shoey at August 23, 2012 10:28 AM (jdOk/)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 23, 2012 10:28 AM (f9c2L)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 23, 2012 10:29 AM (i330i)
Posted by: Golan Globus at August 23, 2012 02:28 PM (/1U3u)
Well, that's about as retarded as it gets.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 23, 2012 10:29 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: Al (jokester) Franken at August 23, 2012 10:29 AM (fWAjv)
I got blocked on twitter by some dipwad who was calling people who abandoned Akin fake Chrisitans. I wasn't even mean. I presented a few minor facts like it wasn't the MSM attacking Akin but the entire Republican party.
Posted by: Ben at August 23, 2012 10:29 AM (C2Y4l)
You know.... a bit over a week ago, my Dem Rep here in Calif., Dennis Cardoza, resigned from the House, effective immediately.... for family reasons...
The ONLY coverage has been in the local Dem leaning paper...
Where the F is the media?
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 23, 2012 10:29 AM (lZBBB)
Akin sounds like a retarded fuck lifetime politician; in that regard, he's like most of the dim witted hacks who make up the 450 butt holes a/k/a Our Elected Officials.
His bio said he has an engineering degree, so at one time he must have been able to add 2+2...Now he's just a stupid, self-absorbed, selfish pig who is willing to sacrifice the country on the altar of his ego.
Posted by: MoeRon at August 23, 2012 10:29 AM (yWDpP)
Posted by: Harlequin at August 23, 2012 10:29 AM (yIeoc)
Posted by: joe at August 23, 2012 10:29 AM (i3OIF)
Posted by: Slappy at August 23, 2012 10:30 AM (LTbLf)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/i][/u][/b] at August 23, 2012 10:30 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Drew in MO at August 23, 2012 10:30 AM (MkgGw)
This guy Akin is draping himself in the...."being persecuted by the Liberal Media" thing.
His martyr complex is growing by the day.
Posted by: wheatie at August 23, 2012 10:30 AM (mtRB0)
Name one "on our side" who has defended what he said. His position? Yes. His citation of "doctors?" Yes. But I have not seen anyone- here at the HQ, on Twitter, or elsewhere that has defended his actual statement.
The closest they've gotten, that I've seen, has been "He had a point, too bad he screwed it up."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 23, 2012 10:30 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Al (jokester) Franken at August 23, 2012 02:29 PM (fWAjv
Is he appearing at Abortion Palooza?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 23, 2012 10:30 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: El Kabong at August 23, 2012 10:31 AM (tBduy)
Anyway, fuck this wet runny turd. I'd rather talk about Linda McMahon. She's got a real chance at winning because 1.) she's the anti-Akin in terms of her campaigning style -- even as she lost in 2010, a lot of people (myself included) were extremely impressed at how professional and poised and error-free she was as a candidate, aside from her unfortunate WWE background; 2.) Chris Murphy ain't exactly Richard Blumenthal in terms of how beloved he is by the state's voters.
McMahon is currently running a BRUTAL set of attack ads against Murphy -- brutal precisely because all of the state's newspapers, incl. the Hartford Courant and the Stamford Advocate, have said they're perfectly accurate -- pointing out how Murphy has missed over 80% of all the hearings his committees held, including during the financial crisis. And the thing that strikes you in those ads is just how much of a weasel Murphy looks like. It's not just a "poorly chosen photo" thing, either. Physically, he exudes anti-charisma, whereas McMahon looks very much the part of a blue-blooded CT businesswoman.
Will she win? Beats me, and I'd have to guess no. But RCP has already moved this race into the 'straight toss-up' category and I think Murphy is much weaker than he looks.
Posted by: Jeff B. at August 23, 2012 10:31 AM (sKKQe)
Posted by: Bill Clinton at August 23, 2012 10:31 AM (Cvyuv)
Posted by: MoeRon at August 23, 2012 10:31 AM (yWDpP)
Posted by: AndrewsDad at August 23, 2012 10:31 AM (C2//T)
This fellow Akin strikes me as slightly Captain Queegish.
Posted by: kallisto at August 23, 2012 10:31 AM (jm/9g)
Posted by: DNC at August 23, 2012 10:31 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: bacoNate at August 23, 2012 10:31 AM (CZwVA)
>>When will Pony Tail Guy officially take over this blog?
When vaginas start 'shutting the whole thing down'.
Posted by: garrett at August 23, 2012 10:32 AM (E8suz)
Posted by: buzz at August 23, 2012 10:32 AM (i27M5)
Posted by: Roy at August 23, 2012 10:32 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: Todd Aiken at August 23, 2012 10:32 AM (4cRnj)
Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 10:33 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: JParker at August 23, 2012 02:29 PM (60GaT)
Which shouldn't even matter anyway. You can forgive someone for making an ass of himself without exonerating him of making an ass of himself. Part of forgiveness is accepting the consequences of your actions. "You made a mistake and you're forgiven. For your benefit and the benefit of the country, you should step aside."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/i][/u][/b] at August 23, 2012 10:33 AM (4df7R)
This. Do it right now. It freezes out Brunner and Steelman, but so be it.
If Akin drops out, then hopefully that person can be put on the ballot.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 23, 2012 10:33 AM (xSegX)
Posted by: Sandra Slut at August 23, 2012 10:33 AM (3ZjAP)
Posted by: PaulRyansHair at August 23, 2012 10:33 AM (S7DCS)
Posted by: I'll Take Therapist for $200 at August 23, 2012 10:34 AM (i330i)
Posted by: Roy at August 23, 2012 10:34 AM (VndSC)
40 This man is so stupid are we really sure he is not a plant?
He has the IQ of a plant.
His family probably makes sure that someone waters him every day.
Posted by: wheatie at August 23, 2012 10:34 AM (mtRB0)
Does he even know how elections work?
Yes, you're an incompetent lunatic and against a strong candidate you'd be down by 30 and not 10... but I don't think you're done talking so there's still time for you to get there.
Oh, and to win you'll now have to make up 10 points with reduced funding and no support from the GOP while your opponent only has to stay quiet and NOT do anything stupid.
I'm guessing the Claire McCaskill plan of "going on vacation out of the country for 10 weeks" will be a winning strategy. I don't see that she has any more work to do here.
Posted by: gekkobear at August 23, 2012 10:34 AM (X0NX1)
33 -
The martyrs of Islam like to blow up people and buildings whereas the martyrs of modern Christianity think they get Jesus brownie points by blowing up elections.
Posted by: kallisto at August 23, 2012 10:35 AM (jm/9g)
Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 10:35 AM (Dnbau)
What a car crash this is going to be (forehead hits desk.)
Posted by: mpfs at August 23, 2012 10:35 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: bzb888 at August 23, 2012 10:35 AM (Fr8N6)
I'd go with bubblegum but I'm all out.
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 23, 2012 10:36 AM (ccXZP)
It's worse he's like a fucking 5 year old you are trying to teach remorse to....
"I said I was sorry..."
yeah Todd that only works for Democrats who blow loads in reporter's mouths
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 10:36 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Mike Huckabee talks about your feelings
I distinctly heard Joo-boy in there somewhere.
Posted by: mpfs at August 23, 2012 10:36 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 23, 2012 10:36 AM (CrOSO)
Posted by: Jeff B. at August 23, 2012 10:36 AM (sKKQe)
Posted by: ace at August 23, 2012 10:37 AM (fxHyG)
Posted by: El Kabong at August 23, 2012 10:37 AM (tBduy)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 23, 2012 10:37 AM (TMB3S)
Take candidate with bad instincts and worse rhetrocial skills, mix with shameless hack political consultants. Shake well.
I haven't named the drink yet, but it will make you vomit.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 23, 2012 10:37 AM (B+qrE)
The Physics department would point and laugh at the engineers on campus.
Posted by: mpfs at August 23, 2012 10:37 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: Jean at August 23, 2012 10:37 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: Nukie at August 23, 2012 10:37 AM (QH36x)
That's all I really have to say.
Posted by: Adam at August 23, 2012 10:37 AM (/YJYi)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/i][/u][/b] at August 23, 2012 10:37 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Golan Globus at August 23, 2012 10:38 AM (/1U3u)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 23, 2012 10:38 AM (i330i)
his comments were "taken out of context". Was she wrong?
Posted by: Bob, latent ghey at August 23, 2012 10:38 AM (uRumV)
Where are the murder twins when we need them?
Every now and then I find myself thinking "well gee, Huckabee seems like a nice guy, he can't be all that bad, right?"
Thankfully, he promptly reminds me why he needs to go fuck himself.
Posted by: Jeff B. at August 23, 2012 10:38 AM (sKKQe)
But Sandra Fluke is going to be at the DNC convention.
Posted by: EC at August 23, 2012 10:38 AM (GQ8sn)
I haven't named the drink yet, but it will make you vomit.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 23, 2012 02:37 PM (B+qrE)
You just described SCOAMF without his teleprompter.
Posted by: Roy at August 23, 2012 10:38 AM (VndSC)
Send the Code Pinko vagina battalion to pay him a visit. They would scare the shit out of anyone.
Posted by: mpfs at August 23, 2012 10:38 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 23, 2012 10:39 AM (i330i)
Posted by: Avi at August 23, 2012 10:39 AM (Gx3Fe)
Posted by: Jay in Ames at August 23, 2012 10:39 AM (UEEex)
Posted by: t-bird at August 23, 2012 10:39 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 23, 2012 02:30 PM (8y9MW)
His actual statement was only off a little bit. It was easily defensible especially as any questions about it could have easily been turned against the truly insane and nihilistic views that almost ALL on the left hold. Akin's statement was not nearly what people made it to be (most people spent time lying about what he said and what he meant) and not worthy of the reaction, which helped lead to this situation.
The guy has until September but people on this side act as if the world would end if he wasn't out by the day after he spoke. People here then launched into beating this into the ground for every minute after thinking that if they insulted the guy enough and made enough idiotic rape jokes they would force him out. Great thinking, there ... And, even if someone else goes into the spot evenutally, I think idiots on the right have done enough damage that McKatkill will still have an advantage that she wouldn't have if if were handled a bit more discreetly.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 23, 2012 10:40 AM (X3lox)
His quirks and peculiar beliefs must have been widely known and if not then why have the people of Missouri been voting for him for 2-1/2 decades?
Looking at his record he has a fairly conservative track record.
Are there any MO morons here that can flesh out what this guys chances are really? I can't trust any poll right now.
Posted by: General Woundwort at August 23, 2012 10:40 AM (06lNq)
Or is it?
If it was legitimately raping it, it would shut down.
Posted by: Dang at August 23, 2012 10:40 AM (Ky1+e)
Posted by: Fritz at August 23, 2012 10:40 AM (RuVpG)
No.
The answer to your question, Ace, is no.
The man is like the worst cliche of a televangelist: "All praise and glory to God, but send all your money to me. That'll show God how much you care about Him."
Posted by: BurtTC at August 23, 2012 10:40 AM (TOk1P)
But then I do drink a lot.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 23, 2012 10:40 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: joe at August 23, 2012 10:40 AM (i3OIF)
86...It's the first time in history a pollster has delivered a candidate good news (ten point lead, nearly 50%!) and she "laughed" at the poll, and said "sneaky stuff."
Posted by: ace at August 23, 2012 02:37 PM (fxHyG)
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This is still only Day 4 of the Akin-apocalypse.
It will take another couple of weeks to really see the damage in the polls.....nationwide.
The Dems have only just begun to use this guy.
Posted by: wheatie at August 23, 2012 10:40 AM (mtRB0)
Posted by: The Peasants at August 23, 2012 10:40 AM (fRlaj)
Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 10:40 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Infidel at August 23, 2012 10:40 AM (O/fK8)
Akin is too dim to have an ego.
Posted by: spas at August 23, 2012 10:40 AM (uBVzH)
Posted by: Mike Chucklebee at August 23, 2012 10:40 AM (i330i)
his comments were "taken out of context". Was she wrong?
The Loeschs cannot be trusted when it comes to Todd Akin. Akin is a personal friend of theirs, and was a frequent attendee at various BigGovernment events, with a lot of time spent talking to Dana Loesch in particular.
That's the reason they (and others from Breitbart's site) are defending him so retardedly. They have a braindead belief in the importance of "LOYALTY" above all else -- forgetting that this politics, not the battle of Fallujah, that we're talking about.
Anyway, in case you were wondering why they in particular are so weirdly aggressive about defending Akin, that's your reason -- with them it's personal.
Idiots.
Posted by: Jeff B. at August 23, 2012 10:41 AM (sKKQe)
Posted by: Dave S. at August 23, 2012 10:41 AM (K4AdI)
this psycho woman is going nuts....
combo soccer mom/cc/tradasil media jihad holy warrior....
"screw you media!"
"we're right!"
yeah sweetie.....you can run against the press or run against the donk it's hard to pass both
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 10:41 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Cobalt Shiva at August 23, 2012 10:41 AM (1iauC)
Posted by: Avi at August 23, 2012 10:41 AM (Gx3Fe)
Where are the murder twins when we need them?
Posted by: JackStraw at August 23, 2012 02:37 PM (TMB3S)
ConservaTwin Powers... Activate....
Form... of a jackass....
Form of a.... bucket of piss....
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 23, 2012 10:41 AM (lZBBB)
The website Gawker published online hundreds of pages of documents from investments made after Mitt Romney's tenure at Bain Capital on Thursday.
The left is going to full tilt destructo this election. I hope Americans see past all this bull.
If only gawker could get those fast and furious documents or maybe even obastards college records.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 23, 2012 10:42 AM (CrOSO)
No...
No he's not.
When he loses, he'll blame us. Because you know. He's entitled to our support because he won the primary or something. Regardless of what he does.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 23, 2012 10:42 AM (0q2P7)
Shoot me.
Posted by: Anony at August 23, 2012 10:42 AM (qiXMt)
Posted by: The Political Hat at August 23, 2012 10:42 AM (XvHmy)
Posted by: Joe Biden: Legitimate Retard at August 23, 2012 10:42 AM (msPO3)
The paralysis I experience when I see them is from laughter, not fear...
OTOH, I've never smelled them.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 23, 2012 10:42 AM (/kI1Q)
"Todd....don't worry I have 12% of the votes needed right here..."
//Todd's Calling Plan partner
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 10:42 AM (LRFds)
You're bonkers if you actually believe this.
Posted by: Jeff B. at August 23, 2012 10:42 AM (sKKQe)
Posted by: Todd Akin at August 23, 2012 10:42 AM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 23, 2012 10:42 AM (i330i)
IOW, if I lose, it's because Missouri and America failed in their obligation to support me. Heads I win, tails you lose.
Posted by: pep at August 23, 2012 10:42 AM (YXmuI)
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 23, 2012 10:42 AM (9Q7Nu)
Posted by: joe at August 23, 2012 10:42 AM (i3OIF)
Posted by: Infidel at August 23, 2012 10:43 AM (O/fK8)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 23, 2012 10:43 AM (TMB3S)
Every now and then I find myself thinking "well gee, Huckabee seems like a nice guy, he can't be all that bad, right?"
See, that's the thing. I think Huckabee IS a nice guy. I don't think he'd shiv me in the parking lot, for example. If I dropped my wallet, I expect he'd hand it to me and say, "You dropped this," not go max out my credit card on hickory smoked bacon and hookers. Or hookers made of hickory smoked bacon.
But he's also a RINO asshat. And for that he is an IDIOT.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/i][/u][/b] at August 23, 2012 10:43 AM (4df7R)
"Isn't it just great that not only has he hurt our chances in November , he now has become the greatest poster boy for what's wrong with conservatives, and so many on our side will still defend what he said etc etc."
STOP.
He has not hurt our chances in November. There is no evidence to support that other than our own internal fears. It doesn't have to be that way. And who knows, with Obama and DWS calling the plays, he may actually help in some bizarre way.
And he is not the greatest poster boy for what's wrong with conservatives.
If fiscal conservatism is as all important as most posters on this board seem to think, then I can think of a lot worse "conservatives."
And because if you aren't vociferously attacking Akin, it means you tacitly support him, I must point this out. I do not support Akin, his idiotic statement, or want him to stay in the race.
We just need some more level headed thinking. Just because we think the sky is falling doesn't mean it will fall.
Posted by: SH at August 23, 2012 10:43 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: El Kabong at August 23, 2012 10:43 AM (tBduy)
They should be forcibly married to each other by a language convention.
It is time to shove his negatives onto her, too.
Posted by: jc at August 23, 2012 10:43 AM (i8c5b)
Posted by: Dave S. at August 23, 2012 10:44 AM (K4AdI)
Posted by: Todd Akin at August 23, 2012 10:44 AM (+NNlC)
Posted by: President for Life Obama at August 23, 2012 10:44 AM (B5y+v)
At the very least, have the political acumen to understand what he's doing on a national level; a week before the Republican Convention. Narcissistic fuck.
Posted by: Uriah Heep at August 23, 2012 10:44 AM (Wa+Fw)
You're new here?
The point is that this guy has moved from being a guy who was practically unknown and said something dumb, to now being someone who is well known and growing more and more unlikeable to people on his side. That is not a good combo.
Posted by: Golan Globus at August 23, 2012 02:38 PM (/1U3u)
I don't know if he's new or not, but I wouldn't expect him to converse with you like an adult.
Posted by: Adam at August 23, 2012 10:44 AM (/YJYi)
His actual statement was only off a little bit.
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. And wrong.
If you are a Republican candidate and anyone lures you into using the words "rape," "abortion," and "legitimate" in a sentence when there is 8.3% unemployment, trillion dollar deficits, and a palpable 1914 vibe in world events, then your statement is galactic parsecs off.
Firest, trees, etc., etc.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 23, 2012 10:44 AM (B+qrE)
Posted by: El Kabong at August 23, 2012 10:44 AM (tBduy)
Posted by: #War On Women at August 23, 2012 10:44 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 10:44 AM (Dnbau)
No.
Which "stupid selfish man" were we talking about again? I lost my scorecard.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 23, 2012 10:45 AM (8y9MW)
# 104
The great thing about legitimate incest is the body has a way of shutting down the pregnancy.
That's because women's bodies don't have things like livers, or gall bladders. Because of that whole XX chromosome thing, certain other organs are duplicated...like the pancreas, which women have between three, and five of. And those things are like Raid for sperm. Armed with genetically endowed black belts in Sperm-jitsu, the only way to get the ol' polliwogs past her rather formidable defenses is scented candles, chick flicks, jewelry....and if that doesn't work, booze.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at August 23, 2012 10:45 AM (L7hol)
Posted by: That democrat elected official with his dick in a 17 year old boy's mouth at August 23, 2012 10:45 AM (Ky1+e)
Posted by: ace at August 23, 2012 10:45 AM (fxHyG)
Posted by: Drew in MO at August 23, 2012 10:45 AM (MkgGw)
Idiots.
Posted by: Jeff B. at August 23, 2012 02:41 PM (sKKQe)
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Ah, that answers a LOT of questions - thanks for the info. Dloesch was mainly using the excuse that we should win on "principle" - it's good to know there is more going on than meets the eye. I admire loyalty, but this election is different. This is for ALL the marbles. I would throw my own grandmother under the bus if that's what it took to win. Thankfully, most, but not all, of the conservative pundits understand this.
Posted by: Not an Artist at August 23, 2012 10:45 AM (uRumV)
Every myth has a group of believers. The fact you found a few on twitter is not surprising in the least nor really indicative of anything important.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 23, 2012 10:45 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 23, 2012 02:40 PM (X3lox)
Yeah.... I keep ordering them to cease fire... but no one is listening...
Posted by: Commanding Officer, Republican Circular Fireing Squad at August 23, 2012 10:46 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 23, 2012 10:46 AM (9Q7Nu)
Posted by: Lou at August 23, 2012 10:46 AM (xp1pq)
She's *got* to be paying him. No-one is really this obtuse, right?
Posted by: GMan at August 23, 2012 10:46 AM (sxq57)
Posted by: Jeff B. at August 23, 2012 02:42 PM (sKKQe)
Do you think I actually give a shit what you think? You have the deductive capabilities of a small pebble.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 23, 2012 10:46 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 23, 2012 10:46 AM (xSegX)
Aiken isn't dropping out. So let's either start concentrating on other winnable races or escalating our ridicule of the dems (of which there's plenty of material). Their convention, as it looks right now, is turning into a pervert freak show. And I still haven't seen any indication that the politicians that have declined to go have changed their minds. The dems have a lot of problems too.
AND, we might as well get used to the fact that the MFM is going to pound the Aiken story until it's a burnt-out carcass left on a lonely road. We've beat them so far on the information war, let's keep going. Aiken is certainly a set-back, but let's not take our eyes away from the prize which is very very doable. I'm talking about the presidency, the senate, and retaining the house.
Posted by: Soona at August 23, 2012 10:46 AM (9jQZ7)
Posted by: entropy at August 23, 2012 10:47 AM (TULs6)
Posted by: ZBBMcFate at August 23, 2012 10:47 AM (WpKc0)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 23, 2012 10:47 AM (i330i)
Wait holy shit I have it!! NASCAR driver Carl Edwards is from Columbia MO... though I don't see him wanting to leave NASCAR to run.
Posted by: Drew in MO at August 23, 2012 02:45 PM (MkgGw)
Just make sure if he runs, he knows to make RIGHT turns...
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 23, 2012 10:47 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 23, 2012 10:48 AM (AD7g/)
Akin is either delusional ego driven and selfish, or in the tank and on the take with big money from democrats.
Posted by: Fresh at August 23, 2012 10:48 AM (O7ksG)
Posted by: Tonic Dog at August 23, 2012 10:48 AM (X/+QT)
I still say this whole situation could have been easily defused if the reaction on our side had been, "He said that? Well, I certainly don't agree." And left it at that. By turning this into a firestorm it just reinforces for the idiot "low information" voters out there the enduring falsehood that the Republicans and conservatives are antiquated idiots who think women should be barefoot and pregnant and should quit their back talk or they'll get the strap. "Oooh, the Republicans are really fired up about this guy's comment! He must have pulled back the mask a bit too far, and now he's shown the world what the Republicans REALLY think so they're ganging up on him!"
It's just idiotic.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/i][/u][/b] at August 23, 2012 10:48 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: filbert at August 23, 2012 10:48 AM (smvTK)
If I said it once...you can learn everything about life from The Godfather I and II.
As Michael Corleone said: "its not personal, it's business."
Posted by: mpfs at August 23, 2012 10:48 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 23, 2012 10:49 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: willow at August 23, 2012 10:49 AM (TomZ9)
Eventually, Lulli shared with my the story of the courtship between her and Todd..a story which could easily be taken right out of a biblical romance novel. She talked about their prayerful plight through GodÂ’s desire for her husband in politics, and the strength and wisdom she gleaned from The Lord as a mother, and wife of a public figure. It was then that she shared perhaps the most profound statement I had ever heard:
She told me “Todd fears The Lord, not man.”
http://tinyurl.com/8g88umd
Dandy. Just dandy.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 23, 2012 10:49 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Todd Akin, AKA the Black Knight at August 23, 2012 10:49 AM (XvHmy)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 23, 2012 10:50 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: filbert at August 23, 2012 02:48 PM (smvTK)
Hey now....
Posted by: Sen Blutarski at August 23, 2012 10:50 AM (lZBBB)
Let's win the senate without this race. Really piss off the MSM and the Dems (birm).
Posted by: Tonic Dog at August 23, 2012 10:50 AM (X/+QT)
Posted by: McGehee at August 23, 2012 10:50 AM (1GxQE)
Posted by: Dumb_Blonde at August 23, 2012 10:50 AM (Zj7+u)
As much as I hate Huckabee -- and I really do, I thought when he campaigned with Pawlenty at the Ames Straw Poll, he'd turned the corner, not so much -- he does bring the old pop-culture references and creative visuals.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 23, 2012 10:50 AM (xSegX)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 23, 2012 10:50 AM (05RcU)
Wait a second... and action! *starts fapping furiously as he waits for the description*
Posted by: Roman Polanski at August 23, 2012 10:50 AM (Ky1+e)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 23, 2012 10:50 AM (Ec6wH)
we did not turn this into a s**t storm, the media did
we could have been absolutely silent, and the result would have been the same
Posted by: kinlaw at August 23, 2012 10:50 AM (l1ZyS)
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 23, 2012 10:51 AM (9Q7Nu)
O RLY, HUSKY HUCKSTER? BECAUSE I'M PRETTY SURE I KNOW WHO I'LL BE FOCUSING ON.
Posted by: Jeff B. at August 23, 2012 10:51 AM (sKKQe)
good god, there are so many pantywaists here, roll up in the fetal position everytime something doesn't go there way.
it's too late, the only thing to do now is move on.
that means attack, you don't have to defend Akin's stupidity to do that.
you ignore his stupidity and turn the issue around on your opponent.
it's not that hard, i see people here on this blog do it all the time.
Posted by: Shoey at August 23, 2012 10:51 AM (jdOk/)
Posted by: Drew in MO at August 23, 2012 10:51 AM (MkgGw)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 23, 2012 10:51 AM (05RcU)
(1) If Akin doesn't drop out (and no comparable controversy arises against McCaskill before election day to damage her), he will lose probably by 15-20 points (at least) and him all of his staff will be ostracized permanently by the GOP in his retirement, especially since it will likely result in ObamaCare remaining the permanent law of the land.
(2) If Akin miraculously wins, virtually no one in the GOP will want to be seen with him and he will probably have little to no influence in the Senate (e.g., will he even receive any committee assignments from the GOP leadership?).
(3) If Akin tries to drop out by late September by the next deadline and is prevented by the Missouri court to whom he must submit his request to withdraw, then he will lose by even more than he already will.
(4) If Akin tries to drop out by late September and the panel accepts his request, he's still going to be despised by the GOP for the distraction he caused for the entire party across the whole country and possibly makes it impossible to even win the race with a different replacement candidate.
Akin is not only a shitstain but also a stupid son of a bitch.
Posted by: Slappy at August 23, 2012 10:51 AM (LTbLf)
Posted by: Lou at August 23, 2012 02:46 PM (xp1pq)
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Hucksterbee must have a monetary interest in going the extra mile for Akin. I can't believe he is doing this based on principle, because he has already demonstrated he has none.
Whoever suggested Carl Edwards as the write-in is brilliant. If Carl doesn't want to abandon NASCAR, he can always resign after getting elected, provided MO has a GOP governor who can appoint his replacement.
Posted by: kallisto at August 23, 2012 10:51 AM (jm/9g)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 23, 2012 10:52 AM (jucos)
You get used to it after awhile. Everyone around here does, eventually.
Posted by: Jeff B. at August 23, 2012 10:52 AM (sKKQe)
Posted by: Barney Frank, putting his compact away at August 23, 2012 10:52 AM (XiVKO)
Cancel Fuckabee's speaking slot at the convention unless and until Todd Akin drops out of the race. Clearly, the only reason Akin's able to hold on is because the Chief Holy Roller himself is supporting him.
Go after Huckabee, and Akin will take care of itself.
Posted by: Lou at August 23, 2012 10:52 AM (xp1pq)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 23, 2012 02:46 PM (xSegX)
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That's true. Her and her house husband have both backed off on Twitter, but I'm guessing it's only because of the backlash and threat to her career. There's still an undertone in her comments that shows she is very pissed at others in the conservative media - including Ace. Following this episode, I will forever be unable to trust anything she says.
Posted by: Not an Artist at August 23, 2012 10:52 AM (uRumV)
Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 10:52 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 23, 2012 10:53 AM (9Q7Nu)
Posted by: DangerGirl AKA Ellke Deadly at August 23, 2012 10:53 AM (zgh7Z)
@180. I think the party probably offered to carry him off the battlefield and take him back to the MASH unit as they made a small retreat to in order to prep for the next attack, but the one wounded guy decided he would rather stay and fight rather than listening to his commanders and his fellow soliders.
Kind of reminds me of that fable about the guy in his home stuck on his roof who keeps saying God will save him, after rescuer after rescuer comes by. Then asks God why he didn't save him in the end.
The party offered this guy a rescue (I'm guessing). He didn't take it.
But whatever. He may still come to his senses. He may not. He has been scorned, and further scorning will probably have zero affect. Time to focus on the big picture.
Posted by: SH at August 23, 2012 10:53 AM (gmeXX)
Hey Huck I am hoping he goes Philly style Huck....
YOU want to turn this into the CC vs the rest of the party screw it let's get it on....
you fat bast*rd you'd rather have SCOAMF win than back down an inch.
You backed a retard Huck YOU helped Claire inflict this on us.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 10:53 AM (LRFds)
you see this is where you run off the rails. You imagine that if* a woman is less susceptible to conception because of rape that, that is relevant to the discussion of abortion rights. It isn't. You have to assume that some women who are raped will get pregnant, and those women, whether the law favors their right to choose or not, deserve acknowledgement of their very legitimate concern, and an ideological answer aimed specifically at them as to *why* they can't get an abortion. "There aren't enough of you to be concerned with" is not an acceptable answer.
*Admitted only for the sake of point. I haven't seen conclusive proof of this.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 23, 2012 10:53 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: beyond reason at August 23, 2012 10:54 AM (IPhbB)
Posted by: MJH at August 23, 2012 10:54 AM (UF0og)
Posted by: TheNoseKnows at August 23, 2012 10:54 AM (qAMin)
Posted by: Reality Check at August 23, 2012 10:54 AM (hvzWz)
I can...he's a totalitarian--Michelle Obama with a Bible--and what could be more totalitarian than having to ask the government for permission for medical treatment (that you're already being tax/charged out the ass for, whether they grant you permission or not)?
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 23, 2012 10:54 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: joe at August 23, 2012 10:55 AM (i3OIF)
Posted by: Khan Noonien Huckabee at August 23, 2012 10:55 AM (tBduy)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 23, 2012 10:55 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: DangerGirl AKA Ellke Deadly at August 23, 2012 02:53 PM (zgh7Z)
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Salvador Dali his own self could not have painted a picture more surreal.
Posted by: kallisto at August 23, 2012 10:55 AM (jm/9g)
Screw it Huck wants to split the party we can do it live....
Huckfan sees their big chance to screw us and keep their "spiritual affirmation through the federal wallet" vibe going.....
Huck you are not a party guru because you are a retard of regional charm....
Sarah for better and likely worse has a better record on picks than you Jethro...
GFYWAB
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 10:56 AM (LRFds)
You didn't build.... anything.
Posted by: Engineers to the Physics Dept. at August 23, 2012 10:56 AM (73P68)
Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 10:56 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Arcadehero at August 23, 2012 10:56 AM (zt7SE)
Posted by: Drew in MO at August 23, 2012 10:56 AM (MkgGw)
we could have been absolutely silent, and the result would have been the same
Posted by: kinlaw at August 23, 2012 02:50 PM (l1ZyS)
No, being silent would have been as bad as the hysterics we've had. You defuse media attacks by giving the most boring answer possible, and denying them the kindling to keep building the fire.
"I don't agree. You know what has me up at night, though? The fact that millions of people in this country are out of work, have been out of work for years, and have given up even trying to find a job."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/i][/u][/b] at August 23, 2012 10:57 AM (4df7R)
Well political instincts are in the "good non rape semen" wimminz don't shut down for".....blasted idiot
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 10:57 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 23, 2012 10:57 AM (Ec6wH)
For those who want Huckabee's convention spot cancelled, there is an old saying, I forget where its from: "Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer."
/s
Posted by: SH at August 23, 2012 10:57 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: joe at August 23, 2012 10:57 AM (i3OIF)
Posted by: The Political Hat at August 23, 2012 10:57 AM (XvHmy)
O RLY, HUSKY HUCKSTER? BECAUSE I'M PRETTY SURE I KNOW WHO I'LL BE FOCUSING ON.
Posted by: Jeff B. at August 23, 2012 02:51 PM (sKKQe)
So now we're going to be lectured by a guy who paroled murderers who later killed police officers and who has children that hang pets? Fuck Huckabee the former fatty. Romney & Co. absolutely need to pull his speaking slot at the GOP convention. Let's also not forget Huckabee's selfishness in staying in the GOP primary in 2008 was one of the primary reasons we ended up running McCain against Obama.
Posted by: Slappy at August 23, 2012 10:57 AM (LTbLf)
Posted by: Lakewood WA Police Department at August 23, 2012 10:58 AM (jucos)
Give the chicken a break and fuck a duck. Could we possibly pick another damn topic to blog on Ace? Maet? Anybody?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 23, 2012 10:58 AM (da5Wo)
199 -
Oh, he's going to drop out. The only question is whether it will be before or after he loses in November. I don't see anything harmful about trying to encourage him to do it before.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 23, 2012 10:58 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 23, 2012 10:58 AM (9Q7Nu)
yeah it ain't rocket science Huck is demanding we follow Akin into the shithouse...
We had isolated ourselves from too much blowback but now Huck wants to get his Jihad on.....
someone needs to punch his teeth into his stool....
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 10:58 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 23, 2012 10:58 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 23, 2012 10:58 AM (TMB3S)
Some good points. The people we need to be pressuring are the PAID staffers.
Hint about blackball status about working any future GOP candidate. Then ask them if they REALLY think he's going to win (and win again until they retire themselves).
Posted by: Tonic Dog at August 23, 2012 10:58 AM (X/+QT)
Just looked at Todd Akin's wiki page and if I had never seen that interview and just read his bio, I would vote for him in a heart beat.
The people of Missouri have been voting for him for 2-1/2 decades, I have to believe they know him well, know his heart.
If he is not going to drop out then he has to be rehabilitated somehow.
McCaskil cannot be allowed to skate to victory.
Huckabee is a clown but may be useful if he can act as an agent to rehabilitate this man that has had an incredibly conservative voting record.
This really sucks!
Posted by: General Woundwort at August 23, 2012 10:58 AM (06lNq)
Posted by: backhoe at August 23, 2012 10:59 AM (ULH4o)
Who is a liability. You forget that. A social con that is a liability. Ficons have sh*t the bed before and cost us races. Yes it's a double standard because they are usually allowed to run afterward to see if they can recover. But their is a reason for the double standard. The problem when a socon implodes is that the issues are usually VERY emotional. Whereas Ficon issues are less so typically. Emotion is a big deal in politics; And require a more drastic response. Just the nature of the issues, and as a SoCon you should know you are stepping on peoples feelings and tread lightly.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 23, 2012 10:59 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Dave S. at August 23, 2012 10:59 AM (HEWhR)
Posted by: Adam at August 23, 2012 11:00 AM (/YJYi)
fer cryin out loud his crime is being a moron! Thats a straw man argument
Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 02:56 PM (Dnbau)
This. I consider myself a social conservative as well as a fiscal conservative, and Akin is a raspberry seed in the dentures of all social cons everywhere. He gives us all a bad name. He's been in politics for a long time; he should know better than this. He should know what to say and what not to say. The fact that he doesn't yet, despite his tenure in the House, tells me that he's an idiot and shouldn't have the Senatorial reins.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/i][/u][/b] at August 23, 2012 11:00 AM (4df7R)
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I think some people here secretly agree with the guy, but are afraid to admit it.
What's your story?
Posted by: BurtTC at August 23, 2012 11:00 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: mpfs at August 23, 2012 11:00 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: Reality Check at August 23, 2012 02:54 PM (hvzWz)
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His real crime was handing the Dims and the MFM a talking point that happened to play into their favorite meme "war on women". Whether the guy was right in what he said, matters not. at. all.
Posted by: Not an Artist at August 23, 2012 11:00 AM (uRumV)
Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 02:52 PM (Dnbau)
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No, they can't take back his time because his following will then have more reason to feel aggrieved.
At at time when the party should be united, this self-important fuck is using this situation to build his cred within his own niche audience.
Posted by: kallisto at August 23, 2012 11:01 AM (jm/9g)
damn skippy anyone defending Huck is like Huck....
the only problem Huck has with Obama is he's not Obama....
and I am not wired that way
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 11:01 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 23, 2012 11:01 AM (VtjlW)
*Admitted only for the sake of point. I haven't seen conclusive proof of this.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 23, 2012 02:53 PM (0q2P7)
Don't put your ideas into my mouth. If you want to debate me then stick
to things I actually say. This is the sort of shit that really ticks
me off. I said nothing about that part of his argument, which was nothing more than a silly attempt to PC-up his anti-abortion stance in all circumstances to make it more palatable to people. It was stupidly done but not the ssence of his argument, which was about illegitimate [claims of] rape, which is what he messed up on. It doesn't take more than two brain cells to understand this but it seems that so many of you are lacking this minimal requirement.
If you want to debate me on this then stick to things I write. I write what I think and I am not shy about saying exactly what the details of any of my arguments are. You can go back and take anything I've written before on it (and there is quite a bit) and use that, but you are not entitled to make up strawmen and put them into my argument. Try and show some intellectual honesty. Just a little.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 23, 2012 11:01 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 23, 2012 11:01 AM (9Q7Nu)
Posted by: Jeff B. at August 23, 2012 02:52 PM (sKKQe)
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You're like a stopped clock, JeffB.
Posted by: Soona at August 23, 2012 11:01 AM (9jQZ7)
Akin is way beyond listening to reason. He believes God Almighty has chosen him.
Blinded by his own hubris.
Posted by: mpfs at August 23, 2012 11:02 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 23, 2012 02:58 PM (VtjlW)
I believe there was some mention of your stars and garters????
Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 23, 2012 11:02 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 11:02 AM (Dnbau)
Give the chicken a break and fuck a duck. Could we possibly pick another damn topic to blog on Ace? Maet? Anybody?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 23, 2012 02:58 PM (da5Wo)
The Witch got a year and a half.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 23, 2012 11:02 AM (z1N6a)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 23, 2012 11:02 AM (CrOSO)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 23, 2012 11:02 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: joe at August 23, 2012 11:03 AM (i3OIF)
This represents Akin's introduction to the Kansas City area voters.
It hasn't been pretty.
Posted by: filbert at August 23, 2012 11:03 AM (smvTK)
Posted by: Oldcat at August 23, 2012 03:02 PM (z1N6a)
I am not a witch! Grrrrr!
Posted by: The Witch at August 23, 2012 11:03 AM (X/+QT)
Posted by: Trespassing Embryo at August 23, 2012 11:03 AM (cIi9D)
Posted by: Reality Check at August 23, 2012 02:54 PM (hvzWz)
Please just STFU. "His real crime is being a social con"? No, it's being an ignorant asshole who can't defend his social conservative point of view with anything approaching reality. Many social cons have been espousing a pro-life view with no exceptions without resorting to defending their point of view by focusing on the supposed magical powers of raped women to prevent their rapist's sperm from impregnating them.
Posted by: Slappy at August 23, 2012 11:03 AM (LTbLf)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 23, 2012 11:03 AM (/kI1Q)
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That does make me think Sarah Palin is ok but Huck is an idiot, why did he get a speaking spot in the convention over her?
Posted by: Drew in MO at August 23, 2012 11:04 AM (MkgGw)
His "reaction" to today's poll was all the evidence we need to know that there's nothing left but his ego. Citing the polling data was a weak-ass smokescreen. Since a poll in which he leads by one gets the same response as a poll in which he's down 10, that's proof enough.
It reminds me of the TrueCons who were so convinced that Christine O'Donnell could make up a 20-point deficit in the polls.
Posted by: Lou at August 23, 2012 11:04 AM (xp1pq)
Posted by: runner at August 23, 2012 11:04 AM (WR5xI)
"His real crime was handing the Dims and the MFM a talking point that happened to play into their favorite meme "war on women"."
I agree that is one of the dems favorite meme, but what evidence is there that that meme works?
Posted by: SH at August 23, 2012 11:04 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Khan Noonien Huckabee at August 23, 2012 11:04 AM (tBduy)
Posted by: jwest at August 23, 2012 11:04 AM (ZDsRL)
Posted by: Aspiring Senator who's seen There Will Be Blood Too Many Times at August 23, 2012 11:05 AM (MrM2k)
Posted by: JParker at August 23, 2012 02:58 PM (60GaT)
Because it's a non-serious question. "What do you think of Representative Akin's comments regarding rape?"
"I disagree with him."
"Do you think that his comments will give credence to the democratic stance that the republicans are waging a war on women?"
"The "War on Women" that's being waged, if there is one, is being waged by the Democrats, under whose tenure women have seen their families suffer in a crippling economy..."
Don't give them the tinder. They're never going to take it easy on you, so take what they give you and turn it back on them. Go Newt-lear.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/i][/u][/b] at August 23, 2012 11:05 AM (4df7R)
How about this topic:
http://is.gd/5nytW3
NSFW
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 23, 2012 11:05 AM (2b4yb)
"I still say this whole situation could have been easily defused if the reaction on our side had been, "He said that? Well, I certainly don't agree." And left it at that. By turning this into a firestorm it just reinforces for the idiot "low information" voters out there the enduring falsehood that the Republicans and conservatives are antiquated idiots who think women should be barefoot and pregnant and should quit their back talk or they'll get the strap." Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at August 23, 2012 02:48 PM (4df7R)
Well you're wrong. The Dems were running on "War on Wymmynz" for months. McCatskull specifically supported Akin for this very reason. This was going to be blown up by them and the LIV was going to be drowned in it no matter what. Dude walked into the (Republican) Party with a live hand grenade and dropped it on the floor while trying to hug Romney, Ryan, Brown, Allen, etc. etc.
Posted by: NewEnglandDevil at August 23, 2012 11:06 AM (73P68)
my delicate digestive tract prefers ginger ale...
but yeah....
You know my ex was Bi...if I had ever deployed or gone on a long contract with the airline had I been married to her I probably would not have had to worry about her getting pregnant....
what's that got to do with anything?
Fuck if I know I don't know what being a socon or not a socon has to do with not being pro-idiot on our ticket....
good to see you
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 11:06 AM (LRFds)
http://is.gd/5nytW3
NSFW
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 23, 2012 03:05 PM (2b4yb)
Hoooleeee shit. Where did you find that? And are there more?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 23, 2012 11:06 AM (da5Wo)
Hmmm does the Fox business channel need a host for their Sunday night music/variety/news show? Help us Roger wan Knowbe you're our only hope.
Posted by: BidenloidTheHappy at August 23, 2012 11:07 AM (0udxW)
I want to know what this quack's credentials are.
Posted by: mpfs at August 23, 2012 11:07 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: Reality Check at August 23, 2012 11:07 AM (hvzWz)
Posted by: Reality Check and Gerry at August 23, 2012 11:07 AM (YXmuI)
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 23, 2012 11:07 AM (9Q7Nu)
Good luck with that.
The press has been raised to love Obama; has been educated to love Obama; has been indoctrinated by all around them to love Obama. And most of all, they are paid -- in invitations, cash, favors and access -- to love Obama.
I doubt your wife was raised with the same enthusiasm about fellatio.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 23, 2012 11:07 AM (2b4yb)
Posted by: SH at August 23, 2012 11:07 AM (gmeXX)
http://is.gd/1UMnHR
I hope this doesn't fuck up traffic around the airport.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 23, 2012 11:08 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 11:08 AM (Dnbau)
We can't focus on the rest of that stuff because Todd Akin just giftwrapped a distraction the left, and ignoring it just looks like we're changing the subject. We're talking about a narrative that the left has been working on for years.
There are plenty of moronic (not in the good AoS way) righties who will give you plenty of red meat. (Pro Tip: Simply wanting red meat means you don't want to think about anything. You just want to know the latest talking points and who to hate. Well guess what: It's not enough. Sometimes you have to know that your own side has dumb opinions and include bunch of screw ups, too. Not all of our ideas are liked by a majority of Americans.)
Posted by: Anony at August 23, 2012 11:08 AM (qiXMt)
Come on, do you know much about your Congressman? Or better, the next one over?
Posted by: AmishDude at August 23, 2012 11:08 AM (xSegX)
Anyone who thinks that...."We're the only ones talking about this"....isn't watching the news channels.
For example:
Trace Gallagher, filling in for Sheppie Smith, just led off his segment with a teaser about..."an Update on the Todd Akin story"....to be covered later in the hour.
The thing that is giving this story legs.....is the part about a "Woman's body having the ability to prevent getting pregnant from a rape".
The weapons grade stupid in Akin's statement...is what is still keeping it in the news.
Posted by: wheatie at August 23, 2012 11:09 AM (mtRB0)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 23, 2012 11:09 AM (i330i)
Posted by: buzzion at August 23, 2012 11:09 AM (d5HjZ)
Why yes, yes there are!
http://is.gd/141nml
NSFW
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 23, 2012 11:10 AM (2b4yb)
http://tinyurl.com/qlmtdk
...
Very little formal research has been conducted on the prevalence of false allegations of rape. One study looked at the 109 cases of forcible rape that were disposed of in one small midwestern town between 1978 and 1987 (Kanin, 1994). The given town was specifically selected for study because the police department used a uniquely objective and thorough protocol when investigating rape complaints. Among other procedural safeguards, officers did not have the discretion to drop rape investigations if they concluded the complaint was "suspect" or unfounded. Every rape accusation had to be thoroughly investigated and included offering a polygraph to both the accuser and the accused. Cases were only determined to be false if and when the accuser admitted that no rape occurred.
The researchers further investigated those cases that the police, through their investigation, had ultimately determined were "false" or fabricated. During the follow-up investigation, the complainants held fast to their assertion that their rape allegation had been true, despite being told they would face penalties for filing a false report. As a result, 41% of all of the forcible rape complaints were found to be false. To further this study, a similar analysis was conducted on all of the forcible rape complaints filed at two large midwestern public universities over a 3-year period. Here, where polygraphs were not offered as part of the investigatory procedure, it was found that 50% of the complaints were false.
Charles P. McDowell, a researcher in the United States Air Force Special Studies Division, studied the 1,218 reports of rape that were made between 1980 and 1984 on Air Force bases throughout the world (McDowell, 1985). Of those, 460 were found to be "proven" allegations either because the "overwhelming preponderance of the evidence" strongly supported the allegation or because there was a conviction in the case. Another 212 of the total reports were found to be "disproved" as the alleged victim convincingly admitted the complaint was a "hoax" at some point during the initial investigation. The researchers then investigated the 546 remaining or "unresolved" rape allegations including having the accusers submit to a polygraph. Twenty-seven percent (27%) of these complainants admitted they had fabricated their accusation just before taking the polygraph or right after they failed the test. (It should be noted that whenever there was any doubt, the unresolved case was re-classified as a "proven" rape.) Combining this 27% with the initial 212 "disproved" cases, it was determined that approximately 45% of the total rape allegations were false.
Posted by: mallfly at August 23, 2012 11:10 AM (bJm7W)
Trying to step back and take the bigger picture into account, is it possible that Akin may be a godsend in the same way that Santorum was? His fringe-y SocialCon patter sure does bring out the freak flag worst in the Dems. Akin has already baited the Dems into turning the debacle-to-be in Charlotte into a true cluster fuck of epic, baby-killing-lover proportions.
Meanwhile, R&R just keep chugging along, looking like the adults in the room talking about energy independence and the economy, and jobs, jobs, jobs.
And if any sitting Dem senator could still be beat by a guy like Akin, it is certainly Claire-bear. She is failure personified.
So, maybe we ought to take a chill pill and see how shit plays out over the next 10-14 days.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at August 23, 2012 11:10 AM (dcoFe)
'Ettes, please address this.
And then get me a sammich.
No, seriously, that very concerned complaint reeks of fail.
First: Men try to avoid the issue of Abortion like the plague- for a variety of reasons. When we are forced to address it, most will still say things like "well, it's really not my place," or "I'm not a woman, but I think..."
The Morons are less shy about voicing our opinions, and even we don't really like the issue, simply because of all the emotional fireworks that go along with it.
Second: Your stance is still predicated on the idea that the child is not a human life. If you accept that, then why is abortion "tragic" at all? It would be no more tragic than having am mole removed. If it is a human life, then it's right to Life really outweighs your right to avoid dealing with a horrible event of which you were a victim. And, I'm sorry, but that's what aborting a baby of rape is- a form of denial, just like the (very natural, but still destructive) desire to "wash him off" and then never speak of it again.
So which is it: is that baby as much a life as you are? Or is it "just a clump of cells?"
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 23, 2012 11:11 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: The Political Hat at August 23, 2012 11:13 AM (XvHmy)
also got another begging email from the Obama campaign ("Is this stupid selfish man capable of seeing the world beyond his ego?" -- you weren't taking about Obama there, were you..?) -- from Sandra Fluke. Hoo boy, it's the A Team now.
Posted by: mallfly at August 23, 2012 11:14 AM (bJm7W)
http://is.gd/141nml
NSFW
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 23, 2012 03:10 PM (2b4yb)
You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. I got told to "go screw" earlier in the thread (that's gotta New Jerseyian, right?) and well, "Mr. 1981? Party of one?"
Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 23, 2012 11:14 AM (da5Wo)
I guess they think that not only is there a magic uterus , there is also a magic ballot box." Avi.
The problem is not the highlighting factor, it's the 'what's wrong' factor and most if not all of what's wrong is so-con related. That's just the truth. As long as there are so-cons believing that it is God's will that they prevail, trouble lurks around just about every corner. This is just the latest. Fanatics make for nasty politics, win or lose.
Imagine what the playing field will look like by November if this idiot is still making news, or can be used as you say, to illustrate 'what's wrong with conservatives'. I don't think it will be pretty. Others may differ.
Posted by: Dougf at August 23, 2012 11:14 AM (aHnDq)
Do you read all the comments. Didn't think so.
You said "His actual statement was only off a little bit."
No he was off by miles. Not only because he was factually wrong, but also ideologically wrong as well. As I outlined above. And while his ultimate position may* be defensible. He has no ideology or facts to defend it with so he is miles and miles away from being ready to comment on the topic.
*(A no plan-B in the case of Rape is something I can't even support, since it principally halts ovulation)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 23, 2012 11:15 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 23, 2012 11:15 AM (i330i)
Ever talk to a man who wanted to be a dad, but could do nothing to prevent his baby from being destroyed? It's how I went from "I wouldn't do it, but other women, whatever" to "hrm, this is bad shit."
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 23, 2012 11:15 AM (/kI1Q)
I'm increasingly convinced Huck is perfectly happy to sabotage R/ R (as someone else here put it, the Mormon/ Catholic ticket). I don't know if that was his intention all along (he and McCaskill together seem the 2 parties most responsible for Akin's primary victory), but I don't think the prospect of fucking things up for R/ R (and their disciplined, up to this point very effective campaign, focused on the economy/ fiscal issues/ Obama's record) bothers him in the slightest. He's getting a thrill out of this, I'm sure.
As a fiscal con, I value and respect most socons, and think they're a valuable core contingent of the big tent. But I wonder if a few socon political figures (like the high profile types rallying around Akin now) are resentful or afraid that their influence (at least for the 2012 campaign) has diminished, that this is a fiscal con election, that it's all about the economy, and not the topmost issues of the Religious Right. Resentful that Romney's the nominee (not just an "economy" candidate, but a Mormon to boot!), as opposed to someone like Santorum.
The ironic thing is, socon issues actually have been part of the campaign, but in a politically advantageous way for the GOP, in a way that didn't distract from but complemented the substantive economic focus. A desperate Obama was all about gay marriage, "free" Fluke contraception, infringing on Catholic institution's religious liberty, and so on. Romney/ Ryan are strong on those issues (especially the last two), not just substantively but *politically*. For all the "war on women" "war on gays" etc. BS, the Dems' attempt to run on social issues hysteria was hurting them with voters, not us.
But Akin and his advocates have changed that dynamic. I hope the damage is only localized, and might be turned against an overreaching DNC. Still, there's no denying that Akin can hurt us a lot with low-info voters.
Posted by: lael at August 23, 2012 11:16 AM (b/1T3)
# 241
Wasn't there a dem who was caught blowing an underage teen or vice versa? Seriously why do we not have endless stories about that?
Good question. I don't remember the left dismissing the guy as a pervert and loon, and then moving on. I don't recall the media in this country hanging that guy's indiscretions around the collective neck of the left.
I do recall googling (Google News) both this morning.
Kelly Gauthier......less than 8000 hits.
Todd Akin......more than 8 million hits.
Akin needs to go, and Fuckabee needs to shut the hell up.
And this is not doomy doom....it's a distraction that we can ill afford. Even though Romney has called on Akin to quit....the left continues, with the complicit help of the media, in hanging his 'crime' around Romney's neck. Two days ago, Sen Babbles Boxcar, (D, Scrunt), was lambasting Romney for not being outraged enough. Can you imagine that story getting any traction if the roles were reversed? Well, in the case of Gauthier, they are...yet I don't see the media beating itself to death trying to tie a blow job with a 17 year old to Obama.
This is the reality we find ourselves in. Like it or not, we have to deal with it, and we have to recognize that we're not playing on a level playing field. The ultimate repudiation is Akin off the ticket. That's the only way this faux issue is going to be resolved.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at August 23, 2012 11:17 AM (L7hol)
By having a position, without a coherent ideology or even correct facts, he put the cart in front of the horse. You positions are supposed to come from your ideologies, and demonstrable facts about the human condition. Not wishcasting hard questions into nothing.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 23, 2012 11:17 AM (0q2P7)
He resigned. Something Mr. Akin is reluctant to do.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 23, 2012 11:18 AM (0q2P7)
He cannot be trusted to not bring this up or even make a veiled reference to it during the Convention.
We need a laser like focus on the economy. Huck chose his side so get him the fuck out.
Posted by: H Badger at August 23, 2012 11:21 AM (n/0Nw)
You said "His actual statement was only off a little bit."
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 23, 2012 03:15 PM (0q2P7)
It was off by a little bit. Period. Just because you want to make a side-issue the main thrust of his argument doesn't mean that it was. It was NOT. It was off, though the rest of his statement was fine for those who are anti-abortion without rape exceptions.
Anyone with a brain who wants to make abortion illegal would have to come to the conclusion that leaving a rape exception would be inviting disaster and chaos as false (i.e. illegitimate) claims of rape would skyrocket. Seeing that rape is the one accusation that men get absolutely no fair treatment in court, have no possibility for redress if proven innocent (not acquitted, but proven to be innocent), and those bearing false witness face no penalties of punishments (or even taxes, as Benedict Roberts would say) for their crime, you'd have to be totaly brain-dead not to understand what serious damage rape exceptions in abortion would do to society and the law (not that we have any Rule of Law in this nation anyway ...).
Yes, Akin was a little off. Period. Because he didn't just state his position and stand by it but because he tried to think up some PC explanation to soften it. That's it.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 23, 2012 11:22 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: Avi at August 23, 2012 11:22 AM (Gx3Fe)
# 332
Ever talk to a man who wanted to be a dad, but could do nothing to prevent his baby from being destroyed? It's how I went from "I wouldn't do it, but other women, whatever" to "hrm, this is bad shit."
I'll support abortion just as soon as men are allowed to force the abortion of their unborn progeny for whatever reasons they want.
Actually not. But I like saying this to people on the left, just for the lulz.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at August 23, 2012 11:23 AM (L7hol)
Posted by: Avi at August 23, 2012 11:23 AM (Gx3Fe)
The Dems were always going to paint the GOP as a bunch of Akin types. Now we've got the very image of Akin, in the flesh, and the entire GOP got the opportunity to distinguish itself from that-- we're *not* that and are willing to denounce it. So for the Dems to identify R/R with Akin is going to seem deceitful, unfair, dishonest to a lot of people. Or at least so I hope.
Posted by: lael at August 23, 2012 11:25 AM (b/1T3)
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Posted by: Reality Check at August 23, 2012 03:07 PM (hvzWz)
Wrong. It's a big deal to the women who have those 1% of abortions due to rape, as well as any friends and family who knows someone that became pregnant from a rape. The numbers I saw show that 40% of women who become pregnant after being raped give birth anyway and keep the child, while another 10% or so give birth and give the baby up for adoption.
Perhaps a pro-life candidate should say something like, "I would hope that every woman who becomes pregnant decides to carry the baby to term, but I acknowledge that in certain rare circumstances the decision is not so cut and dried, such as a woman becoming pregnant from rape. First of all, we should capture and prosecute rapists to the fullest extent of the law, as I would support long -- and hopefully even life sentences -- for rapists, while also legally preventing them from having any legal rights to the child that results from the rape. Second, we should try to encourage more women who become pregnant from a rae to carry the baby to term and hopefully keep the baby or put the child up for adoption, which research has shown that around 50% of women in those situations do. I acknowledge this is not the perfect choice for all parties, especially for the poor women who are the victims of the rape, but it's obviously a much better solution for the unborn child. Nonetheless, I acknowledge that it's a situation in which there are no easy or ideal answers but continue to hope that life is always the final decision made by all women who become pregnant."
That may not be a perfect response, as I wrote it off the top of my head, but it's much better one than espousing theories about magical powers possessed by women in which they can stifle the sperm of rapists.
Posted by: Slappy at August 23, 2012 11:27 AM (LTbLf)
ad campaign will fail, his money raising will fail, and the GOP will have a write-in candidate from next week's convention. Game-set-match. Posted by: LorenU at August 23, 2012 11:29 AM (NqJX/)
>>>Period. Because he didn't just state his position and stand by it but because he tried to think up some PC explanation to soften it.
If he didn't believe it but said it anyway he was lying.
If he did believe it and it wasn't any basis for his position and he used it as his reasoning anyway he was still lying.
If he did believe and it was part of his reasoning then he was dead wrong with his reasoning for multiple reasons and a long way from being able to discuss the topic intelligently.
For some things a 90% percent correct solution is a long long way from good enough if your last 10% is really really F*ed up.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 23, 2012 11:31 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Dave S. at August 23, 2012 11:33 AM (3R0Zs)
Treating rape victims as an insignificant statistical cluster for the purposes of an ideological argument is not acceptable. You have to address them and their concerns or lose the issue.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 23, 2012 11:34 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: janetoo at August 23, 2012 11:39 AM (R+fMx)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 23, 2012 03:31 PM (0q2P7)
Don't bother with the idiot Primordial. He wants to pretend he's whoopi goldberg and playing semantic games with rape is a good idea on the national stage. We wants to demand that we recognize Akin's original comments were just poorly worded and he doesn't actually believe that its not possible to get pregnant from a rape. He wants to ignore Akin's appearance on Hannity Tuesday where he talked about how over the "past two days" he's learned that yes you can get pregnant from a rape. So this jackass went from having a statement that sounds like he thinks women who got pregnant from a rape are liars, to saying that he did believe exactly that until Sunday. And Whoopi there wants us to defend him like democrats defend Joe Biden.
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