August 20, 2012
Update: Audio of Hannity Interview/Harrangue Added
— Ace On Hannity.
So, assessing the damage: Likely McCaskill will win a seat we were counting on as a pick-up.
Further, No Exceptions Even For Rape now becomes a serious electoral issue in all other contests.
Further, it becomes especially important in Missouri. A state Romney/Ryan need to win.
Horrific.
It is what it is. As everyone will, I'm sure, I'll do what I can to ignore this, and argue about "distractions" and such.
And we'll see if that gets us anywhere.
Audio: The Hannity interview -- which I haven't heard, but which is teased as "brutal" -- is here.
Apparently Akin makes the slightest nod to "listening what the party is saying" at the end of the interview.
Coulter: For the good of the country, step aside.
Dated? Via Instapundit and @rdbrewer4, this report about Akin's advisers readying for a withdrawal. But this may be dated by now -- he insisted on Hannity he was staying in, no matter what the consequences.
Prayer Vigil?
@davidharsanyi: MI GOP insider tells me that Akin is meeting w/staff & having a prayer vigil tonight. Looking for way out "gracefully"
Gallup: 20% of the public agrees with the no-exceptions position.
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Posted by: i am mad as hell and i am not going to take it anymore at August 20, 2012 12:01 PM (cgxNI)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at August 20, 2012 12:01 PM (jOl+q)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 20, 2012 12:02 PM (8y9MW)
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Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 20, 2012 12:02 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at August 20, 2012 12:02 PM (jOl+q)
Why?
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 20, 2012 12:02 PM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Jason at August 20, 2012 12:03 PM (1XQNO)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at August 20, 2012 12:03 PM (NzBQO)
Cornyn also told Akin that, by staying in the race, he is endangering RepublicansÂ’ hopes of retaking the majority in the Senate, the aide said.>>
From Washington Post website. http://tinyurl.com/9hvrdrd
Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 20, 2012 12:03 PM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: Crashpanic at August 20, 2012 12:03 PM (MwPaI)
Posted by: Todd Akin at August 20, 2012 12:03 PM (uRumV)
We'll have to see how this plays out in the long run.
Posted by: Vic at August 20, 2012 12:03 PM (YdQQY)
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Posted by: yes, mediasux: yes, he's an idiot at August 20, 2012 12:04 PM (HOOye)
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Posted by: Joe Biden's Pscyhiatrist at August 20, 2012 12:05 PM (Tlix5)
Countdown:
One reason that his party has ratcheted up the pressure on Mr. Akin to leave the race is that the deadline to withdraw in the cleanest possible manner, without a court order, is 5 p.m. on Tuesday, according to the Missouri secretary of stateÂ’s office.
The state Republican Party would then have 28 days to name a new candidate. Theoretically, if Mr. Akin were to withdraw by Tuesday, the new candidate would have to file to replace him on the ballot by Sept. 18.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 20, 2012 12:05 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: the Butcher
Died in her sleep. Nice way to go. Of course, not as good as spontaneously combusting during sex, but a close second.
Posted by: Roy at August 20, 2012 12:05 PM (VndSC)
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2012 12:05 PM (siNEk)
Posted by: tasker at August 20, 2012 12:05 PM (r2PLg)
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Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 20, 2012 12:05 PM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: nickless at August 20, 2012 12:06 PM (MMC8r)
It's for damn sure he will if the GOP doesn't even try to help.
Posted by: davidinvirginia at August 20, 2012 12:06 PM (qEkGZ)
Posted by: ace at August 20, 2012 04:04 PM (fxHyG)
I missed the 'bloc of the party' doubling down on this. It's one guy....in Missouri....who will most likely be gone tomorrow.
Posted by: Tami at August 20, 2012 12:07 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Jason M at August 20, 2012 12:07 PM (Be0fb)
Posted by: Jeffersonian at August 20, 2012 12:07 PM (gxCRt)
I read elsewhere that the Republican Senate Campaign Committee (or whatever it's called) and Crossroads PAC are going to pull funding if he doesn't get out.
McConnell has evidently asked him to "reassess".
So there's plenty of pressure still to ratchet up on him and some time for him to reflect on it.
He needs to get out. I'm going to keep my fingers crossed for the time being.
Posted by: andrew at August 20, 2012 12:07 PM (cq0FO)
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Posted by: The Mega Independent at August 20, 2012 04:02 PM (jOl+q)
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Agree's...He's throwing up a wether baloon. Problem is, there's a hurricane out there. He'll get a few phone calls tonight that will help him change his decision.
Posted by: dananjcon at August 20, 2012 12:07 PM (eavT+)
Everything you need to learn about bad decisions made in life is in that film.
Posted by: mpfs in dental pain at August 20, 2012 12:07 PM (iYbLN)
Wright-bitter clingers-spread the wealth around-etc.. didn't stop Obama from being elected.
Bush lied people died-Iraq WMD-patriot act-etc.. didn't stop him from being reelected.
Posted by: Shiggz Roketsturgeon at August 20, 2012 12:07 PM (RfvTE)
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Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2012 12:07 PM (siNEk)
Posted by: Honey Badger, drinker of mead at August 20, 2012 12:07 PM (GvYeG)
Sure ... and "Medical Marijuana" is only for poor, dying cancer victims who need to be able to eat ...
Don't you understand what he was saying about exceptions and how the left perverts law through "exceptions"? What about the idea that the left defines "rape" as "being pressured to have sex" or if a woman just changes her mind about sex afterwards?
You treat the "rape exception" as if only people who are actually raped will be claiming it and as if only actual rapes will be accepted as "rape", not just women who want abortions or have fights with guys afterwards or whatever.
I am distressed by how little thought people are giving to this issue.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 20, 2012 12:07 PM (X3lox)
Wow I thought she was in her 90s back in the 70s.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 20, 2012 12:07 PM (tf9Ne)
If he goes, we move on and Missouri finds a replacement candidate.
If he stays, we take the hit and move forward like grown-ups.
I've run out of things to say on this.
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 20, 2012 12:07 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 12:07 PM (05RcU)
Posted by: ace at August 20, 2012 12:08 PM (fxHyG)
Let's wait and see what MO polling says about this. And I'm not so sure that this is going to get that much steam nationally. Everyone knows MO is saturated with cousins.
Besides, like I said, Biden is going out on the campaign trail again tomorrow. The squirrels have only begun to feed.
Posted by: Soona at August 20, 2012 12:08 PM (7POpr)
Posted by: Spike at August 20, 2012 12:08 PM (I4NNt)
Posted by: The Political Hat at August 20, 2012 12:08 PM (XvHmy)
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Posted by: Christopher Johnson at August 20, 2012 12:08 PM (FN39A)
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2012 12:08 PM (siNEk)
Posted by: tasker at August 20, 2012 12:08 PM (r2PLg)
We don't give a fuck if Akin said he didn't believe in abortion because he likes to eat babies, and needs the excess production...we ain't voting for the country destroying Indonesian nightmare, or anyone else on that ticket full of cocksucker civil parasites. Book it.
Posted by: Is what JQ Public is thinking... at August 20, 2012 12:09 PM (NBj0d)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 20, 2012 12:09 PM (9TTOe)
>>>So, the RNC turning a possible/probable loss into certain defeat?
No they are cutting their losses trying to insulate the other races from the "Your whole party is for rape" meme that is being assembled right now. The Presidential race is too close to risk it on backing a candidate who just alienated a good 65% or more of the electorate; while making the next 30% facepalm it.
A "please leave and if you don't you're on your own" is a more than reasonable response. I would have expected the RNC as chicken as they are to be harsher yet in rebuffing Akin.
I don't think his campaign survives to see Wednesday when he realizes how much he has lost. He will think it's unfair. But in reality if he leaves by the end of tomorrow we might be able to get by this with the convention refocusing things. If he hangs on, it will hang around our necks.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 20, 2012 12:09 PM (0q2P7)
One of the comedian types I follow on twitter once wrote something llike: When you dont like someone everything they do is wrong. "Look at that bitch, eatin those crackers like she own da place"
Posted by: Shiggz Roketsturgeon at August 20, 2012 12:09 PM (RfvTE)
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2012 04:05 PM
That's such a load of bullshit. This is a nontroversy like Obama's an Asian go-go dancer. Akin's dragging us all down with him and you're kidding yourself if you think other candidates are escaping this blast.
And for reference, McCaskill beat Talent not on imbecilic comments but on a principled position, that being opposition to stem-cell research. And I hasten to add that Rush Limbaugh's amateurish "defense" of Talent probably sealed that election.
Posted by: Lou at August 20, 2012 12:09 PM (xp1pq)
Posted by: Crashpanic at August 20, 2012 12:09 PM (MwPaI)
Posted by: ace at August 20, 2012 12:09 PM (fxHyG)
Posted by: Joe Biden at August 20, 2012 12:09 PM (s19xY)
@59. He needs to express the issue better, because it is a delicate subject. The advancement of an issue depends on how the message is expressed. He expressed it poorly (and at the wrong time).
But it is a debate worth having ... at the proper time ... and by not using "legitimate rape."
Posted by: SH at August 20, 2012 12:10 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Roy at August 20, 2012 12:10 PM (VndSC)
Because he's dumb. He doesn't even know how to express himself on an issue that he considers to be essential. It's not like he's a fiscon who is also pro-life but doesn't think much about the issue. This is HIS issue.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 20, 2012 12:10 PM (T0NGe)
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Posted by: The Mega Independent at August 20, 2012 12:11 PM (jOl+q)
Posted by: supercore23 at August 20, 2012 12:11 PM (bwV72)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 12:11 PM (05RcU)
Posted by: ace at August 20, 2012 12:11 PM (fxHyG)
He won't resign, for whatever reason.
Support him like any other Republican candidate. If you are angered by his actions, fix it during the nect election's primary. If he continues saying damaging things, publicly disagree with his statements, and move on.
We have no other options here. Bite the bullet, harden the fuck up, and move on.
Posted by: Kristophr at August 20, 2012 12:11 PM (0aV2C)
To be fair, he didn't bring it u p. He was specifically asked about it.
Posted by: wiserbud at August 20, 2012 12:11 PM (gCa4h)
Posted by: Will Be Taking Applications and Assimilating The Love-slaves at August 20, 2012 12:11 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 20, 2012 04:07 PM (tf9Ne)
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Bwahahaha...ME TOO!!
Posted by: Abe Vigoda at August 20, 2012 12:11 PM (eavT+)
Posted by: elliot m
Bartman - with the Cubs.
I know someone that works with him. If you mention the incident on the job, it's a firing offense. No shit.
Posted by: Roy at August 20, 2012 12:12 PM (VndSC)
Posted by: tasker at August 20, 2012 12:12 PM (r2PLg)
Crack.
You are on crack.
It's the only thing that has steam nationally right now. The left and the media are jumping for joy and getting ready to ride this horse until weeks after it's dead.
Posted by: mesablue at August 20, 2012 12:12 PM (LL5v6)
Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at August 20, 2012 12:12 PM (QxSug)
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Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 20, 2012 12:13 PM (9TTOe)
Posted by: SH at August 20, 2012 12:13 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 12:13 PM (05RcU)
Posted by: joe at August 20, 2012 12:13 PM (i3OIF)
Posted by: Bill Clinton at August 20, 2012 12:13 PM (BVkEs)
CNN's Costello: Like Todd Akin, Paul Ryan Might Be Soft on 'Rape'
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It's because of just this kind of shit that the MFM is going to throw out there - Akin has to get out NOW.
Posted by: Not and Artist at August 20, 2012 12:13 PM (uRumV)
Posted by: JParker at August 20, 2012 12:13 PM (8HhF2)
Posted by: Janetoo at August 20, 2012 04:10 PM (PROOX)
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Yes. You've posted that nearly identical sentiment on three threads now.
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 20, 2012 12:13 PM (P6QsQ)
You could not give the Dem's "war on women" narrative a better soundbite. If he stays, that's what we're going to have to deal with until November. Yeah, there are much bigger issues to deal with, but those incredibly important swing voters (and we know there are not many of them this time around) are going to be put off by the "yes, what he said is horrible, but..." response that is all we could muster in opposition.
This dumb fuck has to go.
Posted by: Joe Biden's Pscyhiatrist at August 20, 2012 12:14 PM (Tlix5)
Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at August 20, 2012 12:14 PM (QxSug)
First: The MOGOP has to decide who his replacement is. Now. I know she came in 3rd, but Steeleman is the best choice at this point. Sorry for the other guy, but it has to be a woman.
Second: That person needs to go to the professionals running Akin's campaign and say, "I'll take you on if you tell him you quit."
When he loses his staff, then he'll know.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 20, 2012 12:14 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: JParker at August 20, 2012 12:14 PM (8HhF2)
Nobody knows who this guy is. He's not going to be a proxy for Romney.
Set phasers to "ignore," you nerve-wracking sons of bitches.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 20, 2012 12:14 PM (APmL9)
Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at August 20, 2012 12:14 PM (QxSug)
How so? Do all other contests have candidates who've gone on TV to argue there should be no exceptions for rape?
Akin is an idiot, obviously, but I don't think his remarks have any likely impact on the Presidential election. R/R was quick to denounce him. Lacking a time machine or friendly media establishment to rewrite history there's not much they can do. I don't see any reason to get upset over it.
It's inevitable that some people are going to say dumb things. If we let the media use that to steal the election from actual issues, then shame on us.
Posted by: GalosGann at August 20, 2012 12:14 PM (T3KlW)
In Missouri. Do people in the east vote in their local races based on what some guy in Missouri does/says? I don't see Hoosiers going, "Well now, the teevee tells me this guy in Missourah said something dumb, I guess I better vote for Obama and Gregg and Donnelly now."
Just now, I was listening to a coworker of mine who never talks politics and she was furious about the idiot's remarks.
His actual words, or what the people who hate him summarized them as?
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 20, 2012 12:14 PM (/kI1Q)
Men are our masters.
They know what is best for our bodies.
When my husband rapes me, he beats me if I lose the baby.
So I pray to Allah, that I am blessed with his child.
Posted by: Blue Burqa at August 20, 2012 12:15 PM (mtRB0)
Posted by: Jason M at August 20, 2012 12:15 PM (Be0fb)
It doesn't matter that Romney repudiated the fuck-tard, it doesn't matter that his outside funding is going to be pulled. We do not enjoy a level playing field, we should not, now, not ever, expect that. Keep our eyes on the prize, and cut our losses when we have to.
Right now, we have to. He needs to drop out.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at August 20, 2012 12:15 PM (L7hol)
Posted by: The Deuce You Say at August 20, 2012 12:15 PM (Xv7f/)
Posted by: tasker at August 20, 2012 12:15 PM (r2PLg)
Absolutely, and they are and they will. This is amazing we have the worst President in modern history on life support and there for a hail Mary at the last minute is an idiot backed by an alliance of Huckadoodle and McCaskill herself to give Obama the necessary Vampire blood to give Operation Shiny objects vitality. The guy who voted Present so often takes a hard stand on Baby murder inarguable Baby murder not being prosecutable and his campaign gets a hail Mary from another PRESENT voter who is so pro life he mangles "rape is a tragedy".
This is so ironic it strengthens my dual belief in God's seldom, but often darkly humored power to intervene to test us.
regards,
sven
Posted by: sven10077 at August 20, 2012 12:15 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 20, 2012 12:16 PM (cQpP1)
On the one hand, a politician categorically denying something often becomes the real-life comedic device called "tempting fate."
On the other hand, there IS such a thing as spreading baseless, viscious rumors, hoping that they will force the desired reality.
It doesn't cost anything to cross your fingers anyway. (Since this is MO, that means "pray", for you religious types.)
Posted by: Optimizer at August 20, 2012 12:16 PM (As94z)
Posted by: JParker at August 20, 2012 12:16 PM (8HhF2)
Posted by: Theodoric of York, Medieval Barber at August 20, 2012 12:16 PM (XvHmy)
Posted by: joe at August 20, 2012 12:16 PM (i3OIF)
Does. Not. Matter.
Missouri is everything.
Posted by: mesablue at August 20, 2012 12:16 PM (LL5v6)
Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at August 20, 2012 12:17 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2012 12:17 PM (siNEk)
+1. He's the nominee. If he says stupid things, disagree and move on.
Posted by: Kristophr at August 20, 2012 12:17 PM (0aV2C)
Posted by: Robviously at August 20, 2012 12:17 PM (oG/rt)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 12:17 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: hack at August 20, 2012 12:17 PM (b1tSV)
It is not Huck's fault.
Frankly, I think it is. Huck always goes for the most Christiany thing he can find. He did it with pardons when he was governor and if you just spout the right buzzwords, he eagerly jumps.
He doesn't evaluate political skill or anything else.
I'm not a fan of people who try to obtain salvation through politics.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 20, 2012 12:17 PM (T0NGe)
Thanks for the advice. I'm do exactly what you prescribed. The crown fits perfectly. I'm lucky my dentist has the equipment in his office to create the crown right there and fix any problems.
Posted by: mpfs in dental pain at August 20, 2012 12:17 PM (iYbLN)
Posted by: toby928© at August 20, 2012 12:17 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Honey Badger, drinker of mead at August 20, 2012 12:17 PM (GvYeG)
Posted by: cynder ella at August 20, 2012 12:18 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: elliot m at August 20, 2012 12:18 PM (zPich)
correct this is not "so stupid it is genius this might work" this is "so stupid it is retarded this is gonna end like a bad movie"......
Even if we pull out this moron's seat because Missouri GOP really is that dumb and the Claire haters shrug he has done severe damage to the GOP by giving Barack cover and a base energizer.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 20, 2012 12:18 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2012 12:18 PM (siNEk)
New headline up on Yahoo...
Democrats tie Akin ‘legitimate rape’ comments to Romney-RyanPosted by: Havedash at August 20, 2012 12:18 PM (F0WNa)
Posted by: Crashpanic at August 20, 2012 12:18 PM (MwPaI)
Posted by: wte9 at August 20, 2012 12:18 PM (ZL7LA)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at August 20, 2012 12:18 PM (DGIjM)
'It doesn't cost anything to cross your fingers anyway. (Since this is MO, that means "pray", for you religious types.)'
Or you could go so far as following the advice in #132. Hey, it might help...
Posted by: Optimizer at August 20, 2012 12:18 PM (As94z)
She won, partly, because we went into Full Panic Mode over Rush Limbaugh's demonstration of Michael J. Fox's stupid campaign ad.
You have drawn the wrong lesson and its applicability here.
First, as you note, MCCASKILL WON.
Second, she was able to demagogue on an issue that wasn't fighting over. She took an unforced error and turned it into a huge advantage.
Good lord, after having no press conferences forever, do you think it is a coincidence that Obama chose TODAY to do a presser?
The last thing we wanted was to give the liberals and the media (BIRM) anything to talk about other than the economy, jobs, entitlements and Obama's record. Now, thanks to Akin, that is all we'll hear from now until November.
Here's the lesson: stay on message no matter what; if you have a hobby-horse, and that hobby-horse is not one of the top three issues voters are concerned about, don't ride it so hard, if at all.
Posted by: angler at August 20, 2012 12:18 PM (SwjAj)
Posted by: Craig Poe at August 20, 2012 12:18 PM (BVkEs)
Is there a ready-made candidate with name recognition who could jump in and win with 70 or so days to go?
Posted by: Alec Leamas at August 20, 2012 12:18 PM (mg08E)
My 2 cents on Akin...
I want to look him straight in the eye and tell him what a cheap, lying, no good, rotten, far flushing, snake licking, dirt eating, inbreed, overstuffed, ignorant, blood sucking, dog kissing, brainless, dickless, hopeless, heartless, fat assed, bug eyed, stiff legged, spotty lipped, worm headed, sack of monkey shit he is!!! Halleluah!! Holy shit!! Where's the Tylenol
Posted by: Havedash at August 20, 2012 12:18 PM (F0WNa)
"I am distressed by how little thought people are giving to this issue."
No. Everyone understands the issue. We've been giving voice to the issue for ~50 years.
Here's the winning formula. 60 in the senate. A supermajority in the house. An (R) as President. Then, after you cut taxes and cut spending, you arm-twist every damn RINO till it breaks to pass a law that either a) punts the issue to the states and eliminates federal jurisprudence in this area, or b) try and rope in a couple pro-life Dem Senators to vote for a constitutional amendment affirming the right of a conceived, unborn human's life.
What you don't do is commit unforced errors that result in losing the senate, meaning you don't get the tax cuts, you don't get to cut spending, and you never, ever, ever, get to legislate to protect the rights of the unborn.
To repeat, the Dems didn't run on Obamacare. They got in on No More War and "Responsible Spending"/"Deficit Cutting" and then they immediately cast that aside so they could jam through the monstrosity of a bill. That's the only way you'll ever get anything fixed legislatively on abortion.
Posted by: NewEnglandDevil at August 20, 2012 12:18 PM (73P68)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 20, 2012 04:05 PM (YjDyJ)
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If he drops out next week, it is too late to have a GOP candidate on the ballot. Good luck with the write in campaign.
Posted by: Tom DeLay, in a 60% R district at August 20, 2012 12:19 PM (cQpP1)
On a long enough timeline you are correct, it took Barry a year a year and a half to wear out the "R" card original flavor.
You think he can wear out the new "r" card extra icky faster?
Posted by: sven10077 at August 20, 2012 12:19 PM (LRFds)
I have decided that my political position and public paid position is much too important to me and my retirement plan to get out of the race and therefore will push forward and do what I can to win, regardless of the mountain that I will continue to create for myself.
Thank you and godspeed.
Posted by: Todd Akin to Brain damage at August 20, 2012 12:19 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 20, 2012 12:19 PM (9TTOe)
Nobody knows who this guy is. He's not going to be a proxy for Romney.
Set phasers to "ignore," you nerve-wracking sons of bitches.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 20, 2012 04:14 PM (APmL9)
I initially thought the same thing about Mark Foley in 2006, too, but that didn't work out so well for the GOP that year. At the minimum, Akin's candidacy is a distraction for the entire party to talk about the economic issues on which Obama and his fellow Democrats are weak (e.g., economy, budget deficits, etc.).
Posted by: Slappy at August 20, 2012 12:20 PM (LTbLf)
Posted by: polynikes at August 20, 2012 12:20 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 20, 2012 12:20 PM (APmL9)
Posted by: David Frum at August 20, 2012 12:20 PM (8HhF2)
Posted by: wierd flunky at August 20, 2012 12:20 PM (X+nFp)
Interview with pro-life Republicans.
Q: Do you oppose abortion?
A: Yes, I do.
Q: Why?
A: I believe human life begins at conception and it is wrong to kill humans.
Q: Do you support exceptions for rape and incest?
A: Yes, I do.
Q: Then you don't really believe life begins at conception because ,if you did, then you could not consistently support killing human beings just because they were conceived as a consequence of rape.
Posted by: Loumis at August 20, 2012 12:20 PM (Xv7f/)
Bullshit.
The auxiliary wing of the Democratic Party, a.k.a. the "mainstream media", demonstrated repeatedly during the GOP primaries how incredibly anxious they are to try to switch the topics of debate from the horrible economy to social issues. They tried over and over to do this, as reflected in their choice of questions.
Remember that 20 years ago, James Carville took a weak and controversial governor of an inconsequential small state and managed to get him into the Oval Office. How did Carville do that? Carville ran a campaign which was focused with the intensity of ten thousand exploding suns on the idea that "IT'S THE ECONOMY, STUPID!"
Guess what?
Now, far far far far more than in '92, "IT'S THE ECONOMY, STUPID!"
Democrats and their media allies are desperate to not have to run on the economy. They want more than anything else to have something different to talk about.
This imbecile Akin gave them precisely that.
And the auxiliary wing of the Democratic Party, once again a.k.a. the "mainstream media", are in transports of delight. They will hang Akin's nonsense around the necks of every other GOP contender right up until Election Day.
Get him the hell out of the race. Immediately.
Posted by: torquewrench at August 20, 2012 12:20 PM (ymG7s)
If that statement is true, we were doomed even if Akins was a deaf-mute with a vocabulary half the size of Koko the Gorilla's.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 20, 2012 12:21 PM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: runner at August 20, 2012 12:21 PM (WR5xI)
I want to die of an excessively awesome blowjob.
Posted by: Compliance is futile at August 20, 2012 12:21 PM (KXm42)
Yes. You've posted that nearly identical sentiment on three threads now
_____
Dear Mama - Sorry to be a bother - Just frustrated, I guess.
Posted by: Janetoo at August 20, 2012 12:21 PM (PROOX)
Gosh - every day I wake up just a happier and happier that the damn women got the vote. Sure does do our republic a lot of f**king good! Now we get to spend precious time, money, and political capital smoothing their ruffled feathers because the idiots are too stupid to imagine that one lone whacko is not going to overturn their precious baby-killing rights.
Thankfully this happened now, while there is still time to bury it and let the scatter-brained single women out there get back to feeling warm, safe, and deferred to.
Speaking of which, the married women break for our side somewhat - is this really going to swing them to Obama? And the single women are lost to us - they're something like 75-25 against us already. How many of that remaining 25% would this really lose us? Those are the tiny handful that have rejected using Uncle Sam as a sugar daddy - they're smarter and more independant than the skanks who break left. They should be able to see through this non-issue.
Posted by: Reactionary at August 20, 2012 12:21 PM (xUM1Q)
*tosses up hands*
I watched us piss away getting to 50 seats in the Senate last cycle.
No more.
This clown needs to be bounced immediately. The numbers I have seen privately are why Rs are pushing him out- he WILL lose this race. He had an 8pt lead going into this. The rest of the R choices had the same. Bounce him, replace him with Steelman (a chick, what a novel thought, to squash the nontroversy perfectly), and move on. Otherwise, fuck him good and hard in terms of money. Not a dime for the dope who cares more about his cause and himself than this country getting rid of Obamacare.
As for the Presidential race, MO is Romney's still. Esp since Romney condemned Akin harshly. Harsh repeated rebukes disowns the Rs from the issue so long as the lifers-in-all-cases can keep their yaps shut for just (please, just this one fucking time) 3 months.
This is worse than the 2010 fuckups- there was some sort of reason to defend Buck and Angle, there is none for Akin when there are perfectly viable alternates. He only got 38% of the fucking vote, so its not like he won it in a walk.
I;m fresh out of hope unless MuLaw makes me happy on Wednesday.
Posted by: CAC, razor blades and wrists at the ready at August 20, 2012 12:21 PM (ssvGF)
Posted by: tasker at August 20, 2012 12:22 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Biden's empty cranium at August 20, 2012 12:22 PM (Xboww)
Posted by: Dave S. at August 20, 2012 12:22 PM (+z6SD)
Posted by: toby928© at August 20, 2012 12:22 PM (QupBk)
He is willing to doom the country to Obamacare and eventual fiscal default all because of a Senate run.
He will lose and drag his career and the rest of us down with him.
Posted by: Lee at August 20, 2012 12:22 PM (RtwOA)
No, its not fair the Dems get a pass on stupid shit but that's the hand we are dealt. Do it. Dump him now.
Posted by: mpfs in dental pain at August 20, 2012 12:22 PM (iYbLN)
Posted by: Crashpanic at August 20, 2012 12:22 PM (MwPaI)
Only one? Who got cut?
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 20, 2012 12:22 PM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Compliance is futile at August 20, 2012 12:22 PM (KXm42)
Yeah yeah he is Huckabuck used his magic Ozark charms and campaigned with the guy because he gave the hardest answer on abortion and was weak on social spending issues.
I find God through the Bible, reflection, prayer, fellowship, and critical self-analysis.
Huck keeps trying to find God at the other end of the sausage grinder.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 20, 2012 12:23 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: polynikes at August 20, 2012 12:23 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: JParker at August 20, 2012 12:23 PM (8HhF2)
I have read two different things about the deadline but honestly have not checked.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 20, 2012 12:23 PM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 20, 2012 12:23 PM (9TTOe)
yeah he seems like someone for whom the appearance of faith mattered more than the substance or object of that faith.
"Set phasers to 'ignore,' you nerve-wracking sons of bitches."
Indeed.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 12:23 PM (r4wIV)
Yup. Get power first. Then do things.
The Dems have that down. We still need to learn it.
Posted by: Kristophr at August 20, 2012 12:23 PM (0aV2C)
Dear Mama - Sorry to be a bother - Just frustrated, I guess.
Posted by: Janetoo at August 20, 2012 04:21 PM (PROOX)
For next time, it's the "E" that needs to be repeated, not the "M" ... though you can repeat the "M" once you've put a bunch of "E"s in. Even in that case, the "I" is the more appropriate second repeater.
I majored in phonetic recreations at Harvard.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 20, 2012 12:24 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: Nelson Rockefeller at August 20, 2012 12:24 PM (05RcU)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 20, 2012 12:24 PM (i330i)
# 176
This controversy has made me want to watch Rob Roy again. Great movie with good ending. Liam Neeson makes good revenge movies.
Great movie. I loaned it out a few years ago...never got it back. I miss it.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at August 20, 2012 12:25 PM (L7hol)
It will be interesting to see the amount of time spent on Akin as compaired to the FRC shooting or even Biden.
**
Oy...my head. Make this stop.
Posted by: dananjcon at August 20, 2012 12:25 PM (eavT+)
Posted by: CAC, mumbling furiously at August 20, 2012 12:25 PM (ssvGF)
Posted by: Evan3457 at August 20, 2012 12:25 PM (e8QWD)
In one month the election is going to be HALF about rape-pregnancies.
There is a reason that candidates running nationally and state-wide usually, almost always, include rape/life of the mother exceptions.
Posted by: ace at August 20, 2012 04:09 PM (fxHyG)
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Let's see what the sheriff has to say tomorrow and the rest of the week. I'm just saying that this is this week's squirrel. I agree that Akin is an embecile AND should probably withdraw. But, so far, he isn't. What are we going to do? Keep talking about repub embeciles? That's going to help.
Also, if this is all the dems have to demean repubs with, how long before their demented logic on abortion start showing up. This could very well bring up the SCOAMT's views on live-birth abortions too. It's still a loss-leader for the dems considering the changing national attitude toward abortion.
Posted by: Soona at August 20, 2012 12:25 PM (7POpr)
'133 ... It doesn't matter that Romney repudiated the fuck-tard, it doesn't matter that his outside funding is going to be pulled. We do not enjoy a level playing field, we should not, now, not ever, expect that. Keep our eyes on the prize, and cut our losses when we have to.
Right now, we have to. He needs to drop out.'
Actually, by your argument, it doesn't matter if he drops out, since they'd never report it anyway.
If the Republicans have another candidate who can easily defeat the opponent, they should go with it. I wouldn't say that any candidate should drop out every time they have a gaffe, but this one is just so stupid, on an especially hot-button issue, that the guy is a liability to the party.
Posted by: Optimizer at August 20, 2012 12:25 PM (As94z)
Nice phrasing NewEnglandDevil. My 80 year old parents still believe this: "They (Dems) got in on No More War and "Responsible Spending"/"Deficit Cutting""
They live in the California central valley (Merced) and think that CNN is right wing - sigh
Posted by: GeneTheHappy at August 20, 2012 12:25 PM (0udxW)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 20, 2012 12:26 PM (WrpGv)
That would, unfortunately, compound the problem. She is, perhaps, the most pro-union Republican outside of the coasts. That would be Dede Scozzafava redux, especially when she's picked by an insular party committee.
Posted by: Lou at August 20, 2012 12:26 PM (xp1pq)
Women should not have the right to vote.
Men are our masters.
They know what is best to do in all things.
I pray to Allah that my husband will let me live another day.
Posted by: Blue Burqa at August 20, 2012 12:26 PM (mtRB0)
Pretend you're an Elizabeth Warren supporter.
Pretend you're the media and some leftwing homosexual just attempted mass murder at the offices of the Family Research Council.
Make like it never happened...
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2012 04:10 PM (siNEk)
Wow - you really are committed to your magical belief that we can somehow Jedi mind-trick people that something didn't actually happen even though it did and it's going to be included in every McCaskill TV and radio ad for the next month.
Tell me more about these supernatural powers that we apparently possess.
Posted by: Mætenloch at August 20, 2012 12:26 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: Steff McKee at August 20, 2012 12:26 PM (Gszws)
Posted by: John at August 20, 2012 12:26 PM (/y6t5)
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 20, 2012 12:26 PM (P6QsQ)
At least Mitt came out right away to repudiate this. That should control some of the damage to his campaign. If Akin doesn't resign Mitt will have to find a way to campaign in Missouri without connecting himself to Akin's campaign. It won't be easy, but Mitt has been a pretty smart campaigner, so far.
Posted by: not the mama at August 20, 2012 12:26 PM (96Kco)
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 20, 2012 12:27 PM (P6QsQ)
Did we have a shot at winning before Akin screwed the pooch?
I gots to know...
Not only did we have a shot, this seat was practically in the bag. Akin's epic fuckup has done incalculable damage to our Senate hopes. And keep in mind that our Senate hopes are exactly aligned with our kill-Obamacare hopes.
Posted by: Lou at August 20, 2012 12:27 PM (xp1pq)
Posted by: tasker at August 20, 2012 12:27 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Moderate Muslim at August 20, 2012 12:27 PM (9TTOe)
Posted by: ABC Presidential Debate at August 20, 2012 12:27 PM (uRumV)
Posted by: David Caradine at August 20, 2012 12:27 PM (DGIjM)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 12:27 PM (05RcU)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 20, 2012 12:27 PM (i330i)
we have to stop GIVING the fucking media squirrels.
He could have spent the next 12 weeks humming to himself and won this in a walk.
Posted by: CAC, mumbling furiously at August 20, 2012 12:27 PM (ssvGF)
Posted by: Gerry at August 20, 2012 12:27 PM (pGFQJ)
209 I want to die of an excessively awesome blowjob.
Posted by: Compliance is futile at August 20, 2012 04:21 PM (KXm42)
**
Aaaahh...me too.
Posted by: B. Frank at August 20, 2012 12:28 PM (eavT+)
Even assuming this is accurate, sometimes the test means "its time to go." And I suspect by the end of the day he'll drop out.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 12:28 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Todd Akin's foot-stuffed mouth at August 20, 2012 12:28 PM (XvHmy)
Akin feels he has to clarify while people are listening or forever be the guy in favour of legitimate rape, ruining his already zero chance in the future. Having done this he'll drop out tomorrow.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 20, 2012 12:28 PM (D9CxV)
Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at August 20, 2012 12:28 PM (qwK3S)
I initially thought the same thing about Mark Foley in 2006, too, but that didn't work out so well for the GOP that year.<<>><
There wasn't a presidential election that year to overshadow it. This cycle is about jobs, the economy and Medicare at the national level.
Missouri will take care of Missouri. How does Mary Landrieu keep her job in LA, which is deep red? How does Ryan keep his job in Wisconsin, which is blue?
There are bigger fish to fry for EVERYONE than this fucking nobody.
If our hopes and dreams rest on one senatorial race...
No, fuck that thought. Its too ridiculous.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 20, 2012 12:28 PM (APmL9)
Posted by: NJRob at August 20, 2012 12:29 PM (FVp26)
Posted by: Sunny at August 20, 2012 12:29 PM (Xnxty)
Posted by: The GOP's UNRELENTING HATRED OF GAYS at August 20, 2012 12:29 PM (8HhF2)
Akin has gone and made himself the Republican's candidate for governor in 2010.
Posted by: buzzion at August 20, 2012 12:29 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: og oglesby at August 20, 2012 12:29 PM (cGWDQ)
Before Akin's bout of explosive diarrhea of the mouth, prospects were very good in Missouri. In 2008, it went McCain by the slightest of margins. It looked as if the margin would be safer this time around.
And we had an excellent chance to pick up a Senate seat.
Both prospects are very much in danger now.
Posted by: angler at August 20, 2012 12:29 PM (SwjAj)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at August 20, 2012 12:29 PM (DGIjM)
Posted by: Compliance is futile at August 20, 2012 04:21 PM (KXm42)
Yeah, that's less embarassing than some ways to go.
Posted by: David Caradine at August 20, 2012 04:27 PM (DGIjM)
Actually, that depends on who's giving it.
Posted by: Slappy at August 20, 2012 12:30 PM (LTbLf)
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at August 20, 2012 12:30 PM (WItBr)
Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at August 20, 2012 12:30 PM (qwK3S)
"I initially thought the same thing about Mark Foley in 2006, too, but that didn't work out so well for the GOP that year. Posted by: Slappy at August 20, 2012 04:20 PM (LTbLf)"
I still have a hard time believing that many people knew who Foley was. We lost because BUSH = HITLER, the same reason we lost in 08.
Posted by: mars needs women at August 20, 2012 12:30 PM (5TXNQ)
oh yeah if you get rapped than its youre fault becuase you probally wore
like those tight yoga pants or some thing and now you have a baby but if you
no means no even if the she is dresses super hot you cant not just have sex
she have to says yes first and than its ok but if she has a baby you have to pay
a shit load of mony to her ever month plus also try to always wear a rubber
Posted by: Ted Kennedy's Gristle Encased Head at August 20, 2012 12:30 PM (+lsX1)
Here's the winning formula. 60 in the senate. A supermajority in the house. An (R) as President.
Posted by: NewEnglandDevil
So, we have to get back to the Reconstruction Era, when Democrats were disenfranchised?
Not saying I wouldn't like to see that myself, I just think it might be a tad over ambitious.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 20, 2012 12:31 PM (kdS6q)
I'm about as conservative as it comes, and believe that abortion should only be performed in the case of things like ectopic pregnancies (which means I feel a raped woman should bear the child, and give it up for adoption). However, the ineptness displayed in Akin's bone-headed comment shows me that he is not the candidate I want representing me in the senate; he is intellectually unfit for that position. I will not vote for Claire, but I cannot in good conscience vote for Akin.
Please, dear God, withdraw from the race so we can elect someone competent to represent Missouri.
Posted by: KSB at August 20, 2012 12:31 PM (kUYEl)
https://www.akin.org/contact
Posted by: LizLem, shaking her head at teh stupid at August 20, 2012 12:31 PM (8wqqE)
240209 I want to die of an excessively awesome blowjob. Posted by: Compliance is futile at August 20, 2012 04:21 PM (KXm42) **
Aaaahh...me too.
Hope its worth it, knowing it means to be thereafter voting Democrat until the end of time, or Voter ID laws pass.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 20, 2012 12:31 PM (D9CxV)
Posted by: Crashpanic at August 20, 2012 12:31 PM (MwPaI)
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2012 12:32 PM (siNEk)
OT:
FBN reporting that CA - a state well known for having a Scrooge McDuck-like hoard in their vaults that they can just throw into the ocean - is going to pay down underwater mortgages.
They had signed up banks to pay 15% of it (apparently they still grow a lot of weed out there), but the banks "shockingly" apparently said, to paraphrase, "F-U, a-hole, pay it yourself if you think that's such a brilliant idea."
I'm so confused ... I guess it's "all Greek" to me! 
Posted by: Optimizer at August 20, 2012 12:32 PM (As94z)
Posted by: tasker at August 20, 2012 12:32 PM (r2PLg)
Massive pressure needs to be applied to this clown. Give him a nice buy out offer, followed by an even worse threat of punishment.
All these clowns have skeletons.
Posted by: Warden at August 20, 2012 12:33 PM (HzhBE)
Posted by: TheNoseKnows at August 20, 2012 12:33 PM (h3vUP)
There wasn't a presidential election that year to overshadow it. This cycle is about jobs, the economy and Medicare at the national level.
Missouri will take care of Missouri. How does Mary Landrieu keep her job in LA, which is deep red? How does Ryan keep his job in Wisconsin, which is blue?
There are bigger fish to fry for EVERYONE than this fucking nobody.
If our hopes and dreams rest on one senatorial race...
No, fuck that thought. Its too ridiculous.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 20, 2012 04:28 PM (APmL9)
Considering the distraction this guy will cause for all Republican candidates (esp. allowing the media and Democrats to focus on this instead of the issues on which they are weak), the fact that the GOP needs every seat if there is any chance at repealing ObamaCare, and the fact that Missouri is an important swing state in the presidential election, the guy absolutely needs to go because the Democrats and their allies in the media will focus on this 24/7.
Posted by: Slappy at August 20, 2012 12:33 PM (LTbLf)
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2012 12:33 PM (siNEk)
Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at August 20, 2012 12:34 PM (UU0OF)
So, is that anything like getting Rickrolled accept with some kind of rap music?
Posted by: © Sponge at August 20, 2012 12:34 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 20, 2012 12:34 PM (i330i)
I am distressed by how little thought people are giving to this issue.
Right, I get what you're saying. And I agree with the gist of it, but we're not throwing this guy under the bus for being strongly pro-life, we're throwing him under the bus for being the *worst* conceivable defender of that position, to the point of being highly offensive.
Yesterday I figured he'd weather the storm, but now that its a fully blown shit storm, he's gotta go. We can't have this dimwit saying stupid shit for the next 6 years.
Posted by: DanInMN (Originally from MO) at August 20, 2012 12:34 PM (XqeyF)
Link? The idea has been floated in individual counties, but never beyond the "shits and giggles" phase - as far as I know.
Posted by: wooga at August 20, 2012 12:34 PM (vjyZP)
Posted by: NJRob at August 20, 2012 12:34 PM (FVp26)
Posted by: Hugh Grant at August 20, 2012 12:35 PM (DGIjM)
Posted by: Mitt Romney according to leftists at August 20, 2012 12:35 PM (8HhF2)
Posted by: Kristophr at August 20, 2012 12:35 PM (0aV2C)
I mean, by this logic if a love child comes to term in nine months it was consensual, right? Yeah, let's go with that.
Posted by: Fritz at August 20, 2012 12:35 PM (RuVpG)
what a waste of a day politically.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 04:26 PM (05RcU)
Yup.
Posted by: ErikW at August 20, 2012 12:35 PM (XHQgs)
Posted by: garrett at August 20, 2012 12:35 PM (okfoK)
Posted by: Christine O'Donnell at August 20, 2012 12:36 PM (3HsdR)
did Kos link this thread or something
Posted by: The GOP's UNRELENTING HATRED OF GAYS
Akin is the topic of the ten most recent posts on LGF, so I'm guessing that's the bug nest.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 20, 2012 12:36 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: tasker at August 20, 2012 12:36 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Dark Helmet at August 20, 2012 12:36 PM (5TXNQ)
What other Mormon related items have been dropping this week or will drop, can anyone let me know and link? I'm a Mormon and even though I've steeled myself for it, every attack in the media is still like a sucker punch to the gut. Not enough for a KO but it still hurts, yet I can't look away.
Posted by: LizLem, shaking her head at teh stupid at August 20, 2012 12:36 PM (8wqqE)
That legislation would have prohibited federal funding for abortion except in cases of incest or “forcible rape.”
The bill as introduced in the House says "forcible rape", but the version that passed does not (H.R. 3, Title I, Sec. 30
."Jon Stewart Regurgitates Bogus Mother Jones Story About Anti-Abortion Bill"
http://bit.ly/gCZwTW
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 20, 2012 12:36 PM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: cynder ella at August 20, 2012 12:37 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: Killerdog at August 20, 2012 12:37 PM (2Q62G)
Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at August 20, 2012 04:34 PM (UU0OF)
But, I thought you just had to lie back and enjoy it because there wasn't anything you could do about it? Especially since you won't get pregnant from it, right?
Posted by: © Sponge at August 20, 2012 12:37 PM (UK9cE)
The best way to ignore something is by ignoring it.
Posted by: Gerry at August 20, 2012 04:30 PM (pGFQJ)
Word !!
Posted by: Captain on Titanic at August 20, 2012 12:37 PM (AWmfW)
Posted by: Dan Maes - 2010 Gubernatorial candidate (CO-R) at August 20, 2012 12:37 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: mpfs in dental pain at August 20, 2012 04:30 PM (iYb
Stop, already. Obviously he meant "actual rape" versus illegitimate claims of rape that many women will make to get the rape exception for an abortion. We have all seen how exceptions in law work and this is clearly what would happen. Further, there would be skyrocketing rape accusations - illegitimate FALSE ones - from women seeking abortions that will ruin the lives of many innocent men, especially seeing that we don't punish bearing false witness about rape in this society - it's a friggin freebie and men accused of rape have their Constitutional rights immediately stripped from them and put through a living hell that ruins their lives ... even after the allegations are proven false.
I wish you folks would stop treating this serious issue as frivolously and incorrectly as you are. It's disheartening to see such silliness about something so serious and important.
The left abuses ALL exceptions in law and opens them up to drive trucks through them, like Sandra Flukes's snatch. They've done this over and over (look at the regulatory agencies and how they seize on snippets of phrases to then take over entire industries). Leaving a rape exception is just asking for ILLEGITIMATE claims of rape to get the exception which would then lead to trials and investigations (all under the extreme time pressure of a waiting abortion -great stuff, there) for the one issue that our courts skew so ridiculously to one side that it defies the imagination, really.
How about a little common sense and historical perspective, here?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 20, 2012 12:37 PM (X3lox)
Correction: This cycle *should* be about jobs, the economy and Medicare at the national level.
Akin's given them a reason to talk about something else.
It may not have an effect outside of Missouri (I think it will; I certainly think Dems think it will - see Obama's hastily-called presser today).
But it will definitely have an effect in Missouri. It went (R) last cycle. Mitt needs it to stay that way. I have my doubts that it will if Akin stays in the race.
And I guarantee he will stay in the race if we simply ignore this.
Would you rather have Akin and the distraction or an equally-conservative alternative without that distraction?
Posted by: angler at August 20, 2012 12:38 PM (SwjAj)
Posted by: runner at August 20, 2012 12:38 PM (WR5xI)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 12:38 PM (05RcU)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 20, 2012 12:38 PM (VtjlW)
Posted by: madamex at August 20, 2012 12:39 PM (e9LVX)
Posted by: The Political Hat at August 20, 2012 12:39 PM (XvHmy)
off topic- I attended a Phyllis Diller performance back in the late 80's, and to those who think women can't be funny, well, you obviously never saw her show because I laughed and laughed.
Goodbye funny lady, rest in peace.
Posted by: Darth Randall at August 20, 2012 12:39 PM (mV8sg)
the only thing missing now is a "I'm a lifelong Republican but Akin just convinced me to vote for McCaskill" comment
Posted by: Soothsayer
Fiscally conservative/socially moderate first time posters, far as the eye can see....
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 20, 2012 12:39 PM (kdS6q)
Not good people, not good.
Posted by: mpfs in dental pain at August 20, 2012 12:39 PM (iYbLN)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 12:39 PM (05RcU)
Posted by: SFGoth at August 20, 2012 12:39 PM (dZ756)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 20, 2012 12:40 PM (+JIjV)
This is where it hurts other races, New England Senators, where we'll probably already lose a seat in ME.
New Warren image:
http://tinyurl.com/brxwzyg
Old image from first Brown campaign:
http://tinyurl.com/caxf4wx
Posted by: NewEnglandDevil at August 20, 2012 12:40 PM (73P68)
the guy is obviously not normal
Posted by: runner at August 20, 2012 12:40 PM (WR5xI)
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2012 04:33 PM (siNEk)
Well, now that you mention it....
Posted by: Concerned Christian at August 20, 2012 12:40 PM (aHR5E)
Posted by: SH at August 20, 2012 12:41 PM (gmeXX)
He said it.
He got one chance - one - to clarify and try to convincingly fix it. He didn't do such a hot job.
He needs to go.
He was given a gift (a chance to try and clarify before a relatively large audience) not all politicians get. Reference: Beck vs. Medina.
Posted by: reason at August 20, 2012 12:41 PM (+hPIb)
Posted by: Doc at August 20, 2012 12:41 PM (3HsdR)
Posted by: cynder ella at August 20, 2012 12:41 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Collingwood (Mentioned in Dispatches) at August 20, 2012 12:41 PM (3xuEM)
Posted by: LIGuy at August 20, 2012 12:41 PM (+usC4)
Posted by: Steff McKee at August 20, 2012 12:41 PM (Gszws)
This is hardly a revelation to most people.
Posted by: John at August 20, 2012 04:26 PM (/y6t5)
Bill Clinton raped Juanita Broaddrick. Ted Kennedy killed Mary Jo Kopechne. Two of your party's biggest heroes.
Posted by: Warden at August 20, 2012 12:41 PM (HzhBE)
What is McCaskill's position on partial birth abortion and does she agree with Obama that live births should be left to die?
Posted by: polynikes at August 20, 2012 12:42 PM (m2CN7)
I agree, it was awkwardly worded and hurt the debate. But anyone who changes their vote to Claire McCaskill over this is too stupid to draw breath without being reminded.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 12:42 PM (r4wIV)
>>Did the Hot Air short bus stop in front of the HQ?
It's been here since yesterday around noon or so.
Posted by: garrett at August 20, 2012 12:42 PM (okfoK)
Posted by: Regrettable Inc. at August 20, 2012 12:42 PM (XrGnJ)
"One of Mallamutt's two daughters: No, Dad, I thought we save the money you could spend on shoes for me and use it to buy yourself a new table saw........ "
IT'S A TRAAAAAP!
Posted by: Child Psychologist Ackbar at August 20, 2012 12:42 PM (+hPIb)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 20, 2012 12:42 PM (i330i)
Posted by: mpfs in dental pain at August 20, 2012 12:42 PM (iYbLN)
Men know what is best for women.
We must submit to their will.
Men are superior to women.
When my husband beats me it is my fault.
He is a moderate mooslim, so he only beats me every other day.
Posted by: Blue Burqa at August 20, 2012 12:42 PM (mtRB0)
I know. I've been listening to the news for years and they have always assured us that only a moderate Republican can win.
That's why I'm so glad to support President John McCain's reelection campaign this year.
Posted by: RoyalOil at August 20, 2012 12:42 PM (imtbm)
Posted by: Moderate Muslim at August 20, 2012 12:42 PM (9TTOe)
Posted by: Lincolntf at August 20, 2012 12:43 PM (5UcDQ)
Posted by: John at August 20, 2012 12:43 PM (/y6t5)
Posted by: concerned.. very concerned at August 20, 2012 12:43 PM (DGIjM)
Perhaps someone with a masters level understanding of this topic like Jay Sekulow or someone of his ilk could thread through this minefield but Commander Taco is not one of those people.
The man has got to go!
Posted by: General Woundwort at August 20, 2012 12:43 PM (06lNq)
Bill Clinton rapes women and he's a hero of NOW.
What's the common thread here? It starts with an A...
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 12:44 PM (r4wIV)
LGF would never send ignorant, hate-filled bumblefucks to other sites to post fake racist/sexist comments.
Posted by: Jarles Chonson at August 20, 2012 12:44 PM (ggRof)
http://tinyurl.com/c298jqt
Posted by: Crashpanic at August 20, 2012 04:31 PM (MwPaI)
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Hmmmmm.
Posted by: Soona at August 20, 2012 12:44 PM (7POpr)
This is where it hurts other races, New EnglandSenators, where we'll probably already lose a seat in ME.
<<<>><<
We have no seats in ME.
Goddamn, my breasts are getting tender from all the concentrated beta in this thread. I think I'm getting fucking estrogen poisoning.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 20, 2012 12:44 PM (+JIjV)
And because of ONE person in the party, all the Republicans cede the battlefield to the Democrats...
Your're all so full of doom and gloom.... oh my...
Now all we need is the famous "oh My! Game Over!' tape...
Posted by: Romeo13, with a new improoved Red White and Blue Tinfoil Hat at August 20, 2012 12:44 PM (lZBBB)
Don't forget she loves Planned Parenthood, which refuses to report statutory rapes when minors are brought in by their abusers to have the "products of conception" removed so they don't get caught by her parents.
Because they *care* about girls, you see.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 20, 2012 12:45 PM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 04:38 PM (05RcU)
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From what I understand, he needs to be gone by Tuesday at 5pm
Posted by: Tom DeLay, in a 60% R district at August 20, 2012 12:45 PM (cQpP1)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at August 20, 2012 12:45 PM (NzBQO)
How about we stop playing around. No exceptions for rape. What we're talking about here is murdering babies.
This is an American Genocide. If you disagree get out of the fucking party, and reevaluate your personal values on the way out. Under no circumstances is it okay to kill babies.
What some of you aren't getting is that many of us WANT this to be the front and center issue. This should be THE issue at the heart of EVERY election. If a person supports killing babies-- ANY BABIES, EVER-- you are not qualified to be dog catcher.
Posted by: Hopeless at August 20, 2012 12:45 PM (xutGe)
Perhaps he misspoke and that's not truly what he believes. Fine. If his thoughts were not in order, he should have closed his mouth until he was ready to organize them. Truly awful. And damaging for the whole party.
He needs to cut himself out of the equation cleanly and quickly.
Posted by: Book at August 20, 2012 12:45 PM (oxqtW)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 20, 2012 12:45 PM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Jarles Chonson at August 20, 2012 04:44 PM
I'm sure the saintly posters of goodness and light at Kos would never do such a thing, either.
Posted by: moukos marlitsas at August 20, 2012 12:45 PM (ggRof)
Every election, like clockwork.
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at August 20, 2012 12:45 PM (+lsX1)
Posted by: The Political Hat at August 20, 2012 12:46 PM (XvHmy)
Posted by: SH at August 20, 2012 12:46 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: John at August 20, 2012 04:26 PM (/y6t5)
Heh......the epic stupid of this statement right here amazes me.
Republicans hate gays. Republicans hate women. Well, no. Such a conundrum. You can't have it both ways, asshole. I'm betting Republicans have quite a bit more respect for women than Democrats do, but that's just me.
Posted by: © Sponge at August 20, 2012 12:46 PM (UK9cE)
Has anyone actually put his theory to the test? Because if you were to legitimately rape, say, twenty women, and none of them became pregnant, there would be some serious explaining to do.
Of course there would have to be double-blinds, control groups, and a placebo or two, and a generous government grant, but, Science!
Screw Godwin: Mengele never had it so good.
Posted by: comatus at August 20, 2012 12:46 PM (qaVK+)
Posted by: naes at August 20, 2012 12:46 PM (4WQJ/)
"Do you want to reward Claire McCaskill with another term in office after her arrogant, insulting treatment of the people of Missouri? Do you want the Obama-Reid-Pelosi party to have another success? Or do you want to send a clear message to congress that we're tired of what you keep doing to us and want a change?"
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 12:47 PM (r4wIV)
Go right ahead.
Just be prepared to lose every elective office in non Red-States and the White House in perpetuity.
Not incidentally, I consider myself to be a pretty strong Republican, but my position with respect to abortion is that the Federal gov't should stay the hell out of it.
Posted by: looking closely at August 20, 2012 12:47 PM (6Q9g2)
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2012 12:47 PM (siNEk)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at August 20, 2012 12:47 PM (kqGWM)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 20, 2012 12:48 PM (TMB3S)
Posted by: The Scarecrow of Romney Marsh at August 20, 2012 12:48 PM (3xuEM)
Try this on for size:
Republican candidate favored by his opponent because she feels he'll be the easiest to demonize wins the primary in a very close contest.
His primary opponents ran strong, and are at least, if not more, fiscally conservative than he is and are acceptable to the socially conservative base.
A few weeks after he wins the primary, he makes a patently ignorant and incredibly offensive statement on a hot-button issue that (1) plays directly into his opponent's hands and was the very gift they were hoping for; (2) causes the very top of the GOP ticket to call you out and shun you; (3) causes Rove to disown and de-fund you; and (4) causes Obama to come out of hiding to demagogue the issue.
If the rules allow you to replace that candidate with an equally strong one without these distractions, doesn't *common sense* dictate that you do so?
Posted by: angler at August 20, 2012 12:48 PM (SwjAj)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 20, 2012 12:48 PM (i330i)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 12:48 PM (05RcU)
Posted by: Everybody at August 20, 2012 12:48 PM (9TTOe)
idea for condescending Wonka;
So, you're running for Senate from Missouri...
Please tell me more about how that makes you an expert on the reproduction process for rape victims.
Posted by: exceller at August 20, 2012 12:48 PM (ROGMG)
Posted by: Glen Richards at August 20, 2012 12:48 PM (pwxdf)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 04:42 PM (r4wIV)
Stupid yet inevitable. Not talking about the solid GOP voter who ends up voting for neither, but about the undecided independent who hears this and thinks, "Well, I certainly don't want that ignorant, offensive man in the Senate. I'll vote for his opponent to make sure he doesn't get in. She sounds so much smarter."
Posted by: Dan C. at August 20, 2012 12:49 PM (c32CV)
If he were that smart, he never would have said the stupid thing to begin with.
This clown just introduced another boneheaded term into the political jargon, permanently "legitimate rape", and I have to say, its sounds a hell of a lot worse to me than "macaca".
Posted by: looking closely at August 20, 2012 12:49 PM (6Q9g2)
There's so much estrogen in this thread, EoJ is starting to look attractive to me.
Posted by: reason at August 20, 2012 12:49 PM (+hPIb)
Don't forget Obamacare, which will control your entire body and not just the one organ.
http://is.gd/2SSA50
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 20, 2012 12:49 PM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: NJRob at August 20, 2012 12:50 PM (FVp26)
Posted by: RoyalOil at August 20, 2012 12:50 PM (imtbm)
Posted by: SH at August 20, 2012 12:50 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at August 20, 2012 12:50 PM (oxqtW)
Jesus fucking Christ. An unforced error if I've ever seen one.
Posted by: naes at August 20, 2012 04:46 PM (4WQJ/)
I almost wonder if someone got to him.
Posted by: ErikW at August 20, 2012 12:50 PM (XHQgs)
Posted by: nickless at August 20, 2012 12:50 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Dan C. at August 20, 2012 04:49 PM (c32CV)
**
Yes people are that dumb.
Posted by: dananjcon at August 20, 2012 12:51 PM (eavT+)
Posted by: JParker at August 20, 2012 12:51 PM (8HhF2)
"He explicitly claimed that rape related pregnancies weren't real because a woman auto aborts in such a case. That's not only dumb as fuck, it's highly offensive. Sandra fluke isn't the only one likely to see it in that way."
We're happy to know there was no forced sex in our ancestry.
-The half the world descended from Gengis Khan
Posted by: Randy M at August 20, 2012 12:51 PM (vI8R6)
Just relax and enjoy the show. It will be over before you know it.
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2012 04:47 PM (siNEk)
What Joe Biden says almost everyday.
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at August 20, 2012 12:52 PM (NzBQO)
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2012 12:52 PM (siNEk)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 20, 2012 12:52 PM (i330i)
Posted by: Hopeless at August 20, 2012 12:52 PM (xutGe)
I'm intrigued by this power that women have to "shut things down" in the case of rape. This was never covered in my high school biology class.
Posted by: JackStraw
I think it was covered in my Bio class, but I missed that lecture because I was busy studying for my AP Alchemy test.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 20, 2012 12:52 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Gerry at August 20, 2012 12:52 PM (pGFQJ)
Posted by: ace at August 20, 2012 12:52 PM (fxHyG)
Yeah, and that's the biggest argument for him to step down. It makes a statement about the next guy and gives those folks an excuse to not vote for McCaskill.
But that term "legitimate rape" has done more damage to men falsely accused of rape than anything ever before. Now every time someone brings that up someone will scream LEGITIMATE RAPE, LEGITIMATE RAPE over and over like a demented parrot.
In popular culture it doesn't matter what the truth is, only what you can get people to remember - its worked so well even conservatives are repeating it like he thought rape isn't legitimate if the woman conceives.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 12:52 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: tasker at August 20, 2012 12:52 PM (r2PLg)
debate. But anyone who changes their vote to Claire McCaskill over this
is too stupid to draw breath without being reminded.
Well, some people probably hadn't formed any opinions about this guy yet. . .that's changed.
There may have been Democrats otherwise inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt, and now they won't.
The point is, maybe it is only stupid people who'll flip their votes over this "legitimate rape" nonsense, but since stupid people make up a reasonable part of the electorate, they're still a demographic the Republicans can't afford to alienate!
Even more simply, if the race were otherwise close, this one comment could well be enough to make the difference.
F'in Al Franken won in Minnesota by only a few hundred votes.
Posted by: looking closely at August 20, 2012 12:52 PM (6Q9g2)
Posted by: NJRob at August 20, 2012 12:52 PM (FVp26)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at August 20, 2012 12:53 PM (05wTr)
oh, I know!
it needs moar harrumphs!
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And authentic frontier gibberish. Don't forget the authentic frontier gibberish.
Posted by: mediumheadboy at August 20, 2012 12:53 PM (aHR5E)
If we're going to lose this seat, it's best to make an example out of this moron. Regardless, we're not going to spend the $10 million to bolster Akin so he can lose by 15 points.
And yes, dumbfuck Republican that holds the view that abortion should be illegal even in cases of rape will be radioactive from here on out. Good.
I'm betting they're also the type that would like to make it illegal for a rape victim to get a morning after pill.
Posted by: Brady at August 20, 2012 12:53 PM (0kf1G)
Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at August 20, 2012 12:53 PM (f8XyF)
Posted by: Nukie at August 20, 2012 12:53 PM (bnAKg)
Posted by: tasker at August 20, 2012 12:53 PM (r2PLg)
Ann was clear, concise and resolute. Do those qualities scare the MSM now?"
They do not understand that she is upset, not over the tax questions, but about the lies. A loving wife gets upset and defensive when a whole group of people come out and try to smear and destroy her beloved husband's sterling reputation, and they obviously cannot understand that. Vultures.
Posted by: LizLem, shaking her head at teh stupid at August 20, 2012 12:54 PM (8wqqE)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 12:54 PM (r4wIV)
Probably not much of a problem in any case. The New Jersey deadline was much tighter and for perfectly logical reasons. Ballots need to be printed.
If Akin refuses to run, most judges will err on the side of replacing him if there are no extenuating circumstances.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 20, 2012 12:54 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Dan Maes - 2010 Gubernatorial candidate (R-CO) at August 20, 2012 12:54 PM (GULKT)
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I believe it was the illegal felon vote that put him over the top.
Posted by: mediumheadboy at August 20, 2012 12:54 PM (aHR5E)
"Guess which view actually treats me with respect. "
Actually, we've seen footage of your 21-items-in-the-Express-Lane rants. We laregely fear your wrath.
Posted by: GOP at August 20, 2012 12:54 PM (+hPIb)
Right....let's roll the dice in a depressed turnout election that favors our side and make sure to energize the lunatic wing of the left and a portion of the middle to reelect Barack Marx because that will get us the votes necessary to end this in a day....
I have a better idea why don't people who refuse to budge on any single issue at all and demand purity or else stop trying to hijack both parties and let the swayable hammer out what can be done to please the most people and generate the best economy possible?
The American people are giving a guy whose position is "leave crying mangled babies in a linen closet to die" a 43% approval rating.
You have a better chance to convert them all to evangelical Amish faith than win handily with a position of "legitimate rape" nuance.
Win elections change things over time, FiCons who want to end entitlements are idiots....I am a FiCon I have had to swat down the butthurt ME ME ME type of Gary Johnson voter at HA, SoCons who cannot grasp this issue is not a lightswitch to enough people their insistence is a negative response inducer are not fixing anything other than reelecting SCOAMF.
Put the culture war on hold we have a guy who wants to be goddamned emperor, and please everyone quit trying to undo 39-70 years of history overnight....
We are not even able to use an inarguable bad unpopular plan like Ogabecare to easily win for its repeal and there are people who think fixing the New deal all at once or abortion all at once is some magic bullet.
No, it is why we sully ourselves at politics and by God we HAVE to sully ourselves or the $uper$tati$t$ aare geared to reelect Captain EO as will of God....
please think....he was dumb he has to go....
Please beat Obama
Posted by: sven10077 at August 20, 2012 12:54 PM (LRFds)
CA. has been solid blue ever since.
Posted by: navybrat at August 20, 2012 12:54 PM (xn8dF)
"@davidharsanyi: MI GOP insider tells me that Akin is meeting w/staff & having a prayer vigil tonight."
I'm praying too. That this numbskull gets hit with the clue bat and realizes he must GTFO.
Posted by: torquewrench at August 20, 2012 12:55 PM (ymG7s)
I would have thought that the damage would come from being falsely accused of rape, but OK.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 20, 2012 12:55 PM (/kI1Q)
...which were the result of voter fraud, but yes, it only got close enough for the fraud to work because of an unlikable GOP candidate and a lot of really stupid people. Sort of like 2008.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 12:55 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone reprobate at August 20, 2012 12:55 PM (FLihN)
Posted by: ace at August 20, 2012 12:55 PM (fxHyG)
Posted by: The MFM, telling you what to think at August 20, 2012 12:55 PM (cQpP1)
Posted by: garrett at August 20, 2012 12:55 PM (okfoK)
A rape victim's insides are a rocky place where the rapist's seed can find no perches.
Posted by: Todd "H.I. McDonough" Akin at August 20, 2012 12:55 PM (5Rurq)
Posted by: Barky O'SCOAMF, who would rather that baby die in the Dirty Utility Closet at August 20, 2012 12:55 PM (05wTr)
Posted by: Glen Richards at August 20, 2012 04:48 PM (pwxdf)
But if he does indeed withdraw, wouldn't that in fact make everyone expecting him to get out an 'expert' - as in better able to predict the future?
Posted by: Mætenloch at August 20, 2012 12:55 PM (pAlYe)
That's nice. What's the Missourah GOP say?
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 20, 2012 12:55 PM (/kI1Q)
In 24 hours we're all gonna be wondering what all the fuss was about.
Just relax and enjoy the show. It will be over before you know it.
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2012 04:47 PM (siNEk)
Not this time. The Dems are losing their asses right now and this dumbass just handed them a whole big box of ammo to push their "Republican War on Women" meme.
Posted by: ErikW at August 20, 2012 12:56 PM (XHQgs)
There is. Admit that you were an insensitive dick, proclaim that your comments, and now therefore your candidacy do not well represent the Republican party, and as such you are stepping aside. Easy peasy lemon squeezy. When the obvious questions about abortions come up, just stick to this line.
"I am deeply sorry for any upset I may have caused to those who have been the victim of rape. It is a horrible horrible crime. Now that I am no longer a candidate, I will have the time to introspect upon my views and make sure that they respect the victims of these horrible crimes."
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 20, 2012 12:56 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Theodoric of York, Medieval Barber at August 20, 2012 12:56 PM (XvHmy)
Posted by: SH at August 20, 2012 12:56 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2012 12:56 PM (siNEk)
CA. has been solid blue ever since.
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Except for those two terms by Pete Wilson. Yes, I know he turned out to be a RINO squish, but he started out promising enough.
Posted by: mediumheadboy at August 20, 2012 12:56 PM (aHR5E)
Regarding prayer vigil. I speak this lingo ... absolutely looking for a graceful way out. He's gone tomorrow.
Posted by: Honey the Badger at August 20, 2012 12:56 PM (GvYeG)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 20, 2012 12:57 PM (9TTOe)
Posted by: Spike at August 20, 2012 12:57 PM (I4NNt)
Done with this now.
I think maybe I'll go sit under a tree and read a book. But I just know that the book is gonna set itself on fire, the tree is gonna fall on my head and I will be doomed, DOOMED foreverty!
So I'm taking good snacks with.
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 20, 2012 12:57 PM (P6QsQ)
What I mean is this: any time a man tries to bring up the defense of her being a filthy lying whore, back will come "legitimate rape" from now until 2310. The entire idea of a woman lying about it has been tarnished by this foolish statement.
"George Deukmajian (sp?)"
In your defense, I'm not sure even he knows how to spell his last name.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 12:57 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: joe at August 20, 2012 12:57 PM (i3OIF)
And authentic frontier gibberish. Don't forget the authentic frontier gibberish.
Posted by: mediumheadboy at August 20, 2012 04:53 PM (aHR5E)
***
Yup...We been Hornshwaggled!!!
Posted by: dananjcon at August 20, 2012 12:57 PM (eavT+)
That's nice. What's the Missourah GOP say?
That the only way to prevent pregnancy is abstinence and rape.
Posted by: entropy at August 20, 2012 12:57 PM (TULs6)
Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at August 20, 2012 04:50 PM (oxqtW)
And if that fails , try the Oldsmobile/Water cure.
Posted by: Ghost Ted Kennedy at August 20, 2012 12:57 PM (AWmfW)
Instead of 6-8 years in prison, we let the victim cut his dick off in the public square, and then we put him away for life.
Sound good?
Posted by: Nukie at August 20, 2012 04:53 PM (bnAKg)
Nope. Hanging. By dick and nuts. And after that, we hang him by his neck.
Sound good?
Posted by: buzzion at August 20, 2012 12:57 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Zombie Concerned Christian Conservative at August 20, 2012 12:58 PM (L7hol)
Posted by: Stateless_Infidel at August 20, 2012 12:58 PM (8UijS)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 20, 2012 12:58 PM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2012 12:58 PM (siNEk)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 12:58 PM (05RcU)
Posted by: thunderb at August 20, 2012 12:59 PM (Dnbau)
"I've put up a lot of updates, if you haven't seen them."
Look, ace. We have a system here.
a) You don't read the comments.
b) We don't read the posts.
Let's not mess up a beautiful thing that we have.
Posted by: GOP at August 20, 2012 12:59 PM (+hPIb)
Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at August 20, 2012 12:59 PM (SDkq3)
Posted by: Stateless_Infidel at August 20, 2012 12:59 PM (8UijS)
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2012 12:59 PM (siNEk)
In Franken's case, I think a pretty good case has been made already that the number of illegally cast votes exceeded his margin of victory. Without voter fraud, he never would have been elected, and Obamacare wouldn't have passed.
But voter fraud notwithstanding, margins of victory can be razor thin. Is it inconceivable to think that this crackpot position on rape and abortion might cost this guy 1% of the vote? I don't think that's a stretch at all, and again, it could be all the difference between a Republican Senate majority and not one.
There is just so much at stake this election cycle, including and especially probably the only legislative chance we're going to have at revoking Obamacare before it becomes entrenched.
Posted by: looking closely at August 20, 2012 12:59 PM (6Q9g2)
There would not be a peep if there was a democrat who has no problem with post-birth abortion by just letting the baby die in a closet even after a full term real birth.
Posted by: TJexcite at August 20, 2012 12:59 PM (PNDql)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 01:00 PM (05RcU)
There are no studies to support that the vajajay has a turn off switch but some of the same theories of why some women have trouble becoming pregnant apply to Akin's unsupported theory. Sexual arousal in a woman does stuff to help move sammy sperm along and stress supposedly hinders it. I'm sure forcible rape effects both of those things. Pure circumcision evidence.
Posted by: polynikes at August 20, 2012 01:00 PM (m2CN7)
Sound good?
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I prefer the William Wallace method: castration first, followed by hanging, drawing, and quartering, disemboweling, and finally beheading.
Posted by: mediumheadboy at August 20, 2012 01:00 PM (aHR5E)
Uh, that a "rape isn't legitimate if the woman conceives" was PRECISELY WHAT THIS CLOWN SAID. Go back and read the goddamned transcript.
The clown in question actually claimed on the record that there are reproductive defense mechanisms which can prevent raped women from conceiving. An idea with absolutely no foundation anywhere in medicine or biology.
Get him *out*. Get him out right now.
Posted by: torquewrench at August 20, 2012 01:00 PM (ymG7s)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 20, 2012 01:00 PM (9TTOe)
Sound good?
I'm sure there is a good Boatswain out there who can tie you a knot that could accomplish both at the same time.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 20, 2012 01:00 PM (0q2P7)
George Deukmajian (sp?) made the same goddam mistake in CA., decades ago.
CA. has been solid blue ever since.
Posted by: navybrat
?
Posted by: Gov. Pete Wilson and Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 20, 2012 01:00 PM (kdS6q)
Master and Commander?
Posted by: Compliance is futile at August 20, 2012 01:01 PM (KXm42)
I suppose we could thank Todd Akin for giving Barack Obama an excuse to talk to the press.
Every time a social con opens his mouth a Democrat gets his seat.
Posted by: JEM at August 20, 2012 01:01 PM (o+SC1)
Anyone remember if Crystal Mangum was ever arrested for falsely accusing 3 innocent men of rape? I sure don't.
Posted by: Book at August 20, 2012 01:01 PM (oxqtW)
Posted by: Bulldog in Kansas at August 20, 2012 01:01 PM (z1C58)
Posted by: cynder ella at August 20, 2012 01:02 PM (oZfic)
My gawd I dislike that fat turd. It's more than a bit uncomfortable having that guy in the party, the very stereotype of Bible-thumping the left loves to make fun of, is what he is.
Posted by: RoyalOil at August 20, 2012 01:02 PM (imtbm)
Posted by: thunderb at August 20, 2012 01:02 PM (Dnbau)
Quote for me when he said that women who are legitimately raped will never conceive.
And yes, rapists should die. I cannot understand a culture where the bulk of the population is fine with a rapist living and the child of a rapist being put to death.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 01:02 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at August 20, 2012 01:02 PM (NzBQO)
""Very plain and simple, the answer is yes. The Federal Reserve should be accountable. We should see what they're doing," Mr. Romney, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, said at a town hall in New Hampshire."
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at August 20, 2012 01:02 PM (Q/1Jp)
Posted by: tasker at August 20, 2012 01:02 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: NJRob at August 20, 2012 01:02 PM (FVp26)
Posted by: holygoat at August 20, 2012 01:02 PM (XnwWl)
Sounds good to me. But in the interest of justice, we should check the baby's DNA against the perp's DNA before we hang him...because I suspect about 50% of the "rapists" would be exes or rivals or deadbeat baby daddies of earlier pregnancies. Watch a week of Maury Povich.
The entire idea of a woman lying about it has been tarnished by this foolish statement.
It hasn't in the slightest. But OK, men are always victims, whatever.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 20, 2012 01:03 PM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: sven10077 at August 20, 2012 01:03 PM (LRFds)
I prefer the William Wallace method: castration first, followed by hanging, drawing, and quartering, disemboweling, and finally beheading.
Followed by a trial and then, apologies from Al Sharpton.
Posted by: entropy at August 20, 2012 01:03 PM (TULs6)
Posted by: JParker at August 20, 2012 01:03 PM (8HhF2)
Posted by: og oglesby at August 20, 2012 01:03 PM (cGWDQ)
Yes it's a double standard, this would be totally different if he had a "D" by his name. And it shows he puts his personal ambition ahead of his party and his country.
I recollect a democrat politicion saying once that the only way he could not win re-election was if he were cought in bed with a dead girl or a live boy.
We'll.... maybe just the dead girl. But teddy worked his way aound that. All hail the "D" !
Posted by: deepred at August 20, 2012 01:03 PM (ef1qd)
They'll repulse the voters with their over-the-top attacks and accusations.
Rape is one of those topics no one wants to dwell on day after day.
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2012 04:58 PM (siNEk)
Oh, I agree. I'm just saying, you can bet that this will top of the news cycle for at least a week.
Posted by: ErikW at August 20, 2012 01:04 PM (XHQgs)
This type of Eeyorism is anathema to Morons. Hot Airheads, it doesn't have to be this way. Reject this panicked faggotry and climb out from your beta pissmire. Join us.
TAKE MY HAND.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 20, 2012 01:04 PM (+JIjV)
We're doomed....
the SoCons get to chase their pretty pony why can't we just kill the fed in an hour?
//Paulnuts
Posted by: sven10077 at August 20, 2012 01:04 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: nickless at August 20, 2012 01:04 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 20, 2012 01:05 PM (bxiXv)
Even if there is some crackpot medical theory proving that rape is less likely to result in insemination, SO WHAT?
Some things are just so politically toxic that even if they're absolutely true, you have to be incredibly circumspect about how you say them, even refraining from saying them at all (see "The Bell Curve").
So even stipulating for the sake of argument that Akin is correct (and no. . .he's full of crap here), he's still basically forfeited his seat by being so damn politically tone-deaf.
Posted by: looking closely at August 20, 2012 01:05 PM (PwGfd)
Posted by: Honey the Badger at August 20, 2012 01:05 PM (GvYeG)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at August 20, 2012 01:05 PM (+lsX1)
Posted by: The Political Hat at August 20, 2012 01:05 PM (XvHmy)
Jar-Jar Binks in Episode I.
Posted by: Waterhouse at August 20, 2012 01:06 PM (xr29d)
He should remain in the race. His entire election should focus on this one issue, if that's what people want to make it about. Uncle Joe threatened to return people to chains. Obama in the past has threatened a national civilian force as well funded and equipped as the military.
If the issue is gaffes in general, let's chalk it up to a gaffe and then play the gaffe game and use this election to punch at more valuable targets.
The issue isn't a gaffe, and it isn't what he said. It's that too many RINOs are threatened by the idea that they don't get to make problem babies die anymore.
Babies are people too. Some hills are worth dying on. If your only principle is "We need to win elections so that we can win more elections" you have no principles at all. You are merely advocating liberalism with a different flavor of icecream on the side.
Posted by: Hopeless at August 20, 2012 01:06 PM (xutGe)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at August 20, 2012 01:06 PM (J1v0q)
Posted by: Russian Chicken at August 20, 2012 01:06 PM (imtbm)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 20, 2012 01:06 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: joe at August 20, 2012 01:07 PM (i3OIF)
Posted by: thunderb at August 20, 2012 01:07 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2012 01:07 PM (siNEk)
Posted by: TJexcite at August 20, 2012 01:07 PM (PNDql)
You mean like President Obama?
http://tinyurl.com/6rwqatx
Posted by: looking closely at August 20, 2012 01:07 PM (PwGfd)
Posted by: MaxMBJ at August 20, 2012 01:07 PM (lOlyY)
Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at August 20, 2012 01:07 PM (IlZPo)
Posted by: Honey the Badger at August 20, 2012 05:05 PM (GvYeG)
And in Braveheart it was "Hold. Hoooold. Blow Me!"
Posted by: somebody else, not me at August 20, 2012 01:07 PM (nZvGM)
This is what I see as the fundamental difference between Democrats and Republicans - with very little exception, Republicans will blast their own when they act/say something bone-headed, whereas Democrats will usually double-down on the stupid.
Posted by: Cheri at August 20, 2012 01:07 PM (G+Wff)
That's not your hand.
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2012 05:06 PM (siNEk)
Thanks for taking the lead.
Posted by: ErikW at August 20, 2012 01:08 PM (XHQgs)
Posted by: Jimmy-Joe at August 20, 2012 01:08 PM (xU2OO)
Posted by: JEM at August 20, 2012 01:08 PM (o+SC1)
What #98 said: "He is the nominee.
He won't resign, for whatever reason.
Support him like any other Republican candidate. If you are angered by his actions, fix it during the nect election's primary. If he continues saying damaging things, publicly disagree with his statements, and move on.
We have no other options here. Bite the bullet, harden the fuck up, and move on."
Its not easy being a Repub. So many are wimpy f'ng assholes.
Posted by: Ed at August 20, 2012 01:08 PM (7U7hA)
Posted by: ace at August 20, 2012 01:09 PM (fxHyG)
Democrats are trying to tie Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan to GOP Rep. Todd Akin's claim that victims of "legitimate rape" rarely get pregnant, accusing Republicans of trying to drag women back to "the Dark Ages."
"Akin's choice of words isn't the real issue here," Democratic National Committee Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz said in a fundraising email. "The real issue is a Republican Party—led by Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan—whose policies on women and their health are dangerously wrong."
"I'm outraged at the Republicans trying to take women back to the Dark Ages—if you agree, join me in taking a stand for women," she said.
Posted by: mallfly at August 20, 2012 01:09 PM (bJm7W)
Posted by: NJRob at August 20, 2012 01:09 PM (FVp26)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 20, 2012 01:09 PM (TMB3S)
OT:
File under "Are you f-ing kidding me?"
NY is now considering making "illegal immigrants", by which they mean "illegal aliens" state tuition assistance. I don't think you're even eligible for that if you're a resident of PA, and they're at least Americans.
Posted by: Optimizer at August 20, 2012 01:09 PM (As94z)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 20, 2012 01:09 PM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 01:09 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Waterhouse at August 20, 2012 01:09 PM (xr29d)
Posted by: TJexcite at August 20, 2012 05:07 PM (PNDql)
Check the previous thread comment #327. That might provide some insight into what you are asking.
Posted by: buzzion at August 20, 2012 01:10 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 20, 2012 01:10 PM (pLTLS)
No abortions, ever, regardless of circumstance.
He said so in a videotaped interview, baited by a Democrat news reporter.
It's like these guys get the burning bag of feces on their porch, the Dem reporter runs away after ringing the doorbell, and they just can't resist stepping in it.
Posted by: navybrat at August 20, 2012 01:10 PM (xn8dF)
Posted by: the pink cracker formerly known as the hobbit Donna at August 20, 2012 01:10 PM (W2Z3C)
.... nope, nothing about me or a response to my comment. keep moving.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 01:11 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: ejo at August 20, 2012 01:11 PM (pYluB)
Posted by: Jimmy-Joe at August 20, 2012 01:11 PM (LTbLf)
Posted by: Jimmy-Joe at August 20, 2012 01:11 PM (xU2OO)
As for Akin - Why is this such a surprise? An American woman's worst enemy is the republican party. Women everywhere ought to vote every republican out of office. This man's statements are consistent with your party's policy. You're an American woman's worst nightmare. And frankly - your whole party is America's worst nightmare. You nearly destroyed the country already with your horrible policies. We dems are not going to let you do it again. Akin is the face of your party. Romney and Ryan are in lock step with him. Stop acting like you don't know this guy. He's what you're all about. I really hope you lose - BIG!
Posted by: Jimmy-Joe at August 20, 2012 05:08 PM (xU2OO)
Ok. If you're going to sock, you at least need to make it somewhat believable. Really.....
What law has Franken crafted?
Posted by: © Sponge at August 20, 2012 01:12 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Truman North at August 20, 2012 01:12 PM (I2LwF)
How many victims of rape wait until the baby is old enough to need a real abortion that suction is involved over a morning after pill and a one term abortion but it is still called an abortion
Except the morning after pill is (if you want it to be) "abortion".
Alternatively it could be "birth control", or alternatively, "birth control" might mean "abortion".
Posted by: entropy at August 20, 2012 01:12 PM (TULs6)
Posted by: navybrat at August 20, 2012 05:10 PM (xn8dF)
Old man Clemens hates shit!
Posted by: Billy Madison at August 20, 2012 01:12 PM (vjyZP)
Posted by: polynikes at August 20, 2012 05:00 PM (m2CN7)
IANAG but I vaguely recall reading one time that in fact if a woman is forced into intercourse, there often is a certain amount of involuntary physical response such as lubrication and vaginal stiffening whether she is aroused or not. The explanation for this was that it was a protective mechanism meant to prevent severe tissue damage in the case of rape or rape-rape.
Posted by: Mætenloch at August 20, 2012 01:12 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: JParker at August 20, 2012 01:12 PM (8HhF2)
Posted by: nickless at August 20, 2012 01:13 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at August 20, 2012 01:13 PM (+lsX1)
The same people that don't want the rape exception for abortion also want to outlaw the morning after pill since they believe that is also a form of abortion (despite the fact that biologically, it's no different than a woman taking birth control pills)
Posted by: Brady at August 20, 2012 01:13 PM (0kf1G)
Now--don't cut them off just yet!
If Ace was a pilot and this was the Hindenburg--he'd still fly the damn thing like a Vomit Comet.
Posted by: tasker at August 20, 2012 04:32 PM (r2PLg)
_______________________________________________________________________________ Agreed! In one thread, people are speculating whether or not we can take freakin' ILLINOIS and in the next, we're DOOMED because this is the only thing that's going to matter from now until November. If Akin is stupid enough to stay in (and I really hope he isn't) nothing R/R can say or do will keep this from sticking to them like Tar Baby - all those independents are going to believe they hold exactly the same views as a Missouri dimbulb and nothing else will matter.For the record, I hope the Missouri GOP takes him out tonight and dangles him by his ankles over the lion pit at the St. Louis zoo. But if the bonehead doesn't step down, well, we fight on...
Posted by: Donna V. at August 20, 2012 01:13 PM (EflcN)
Posted by: thunderb at August 20, 2012 01:13 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Spike at August 20, 2012 01:13 PM (I4NNt)
Oh yeah. In Out In Out...its got a certain rythm to it like Legitimate Rape.
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at August 20, 2012 01:13 PM (ovpNn)
I think you're on the wrong blog, son. The Pathological Liars Support Group meets over there.
http://is.gd/QlRDiH
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 20, 2012 01:14 PM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Jimmy-Joe, Protector of Womynly Honor at August 20, 2012 01:14 PM (8HhF2)
Uh, the state was +10 Akin before Akin opened his mouth and stuck his foot in it all the way down to his lower intestine.
Watch what the changed polling looks like now that Akin's massive unforced error is in heavy rotation.
Go take a look at cases in the private sector where companies' products have been suddenly revealed to be tainted or dangerous. Those companies which respond instantly and admit there's a problem and make major changes promptly are the companies which come out of it okay. The companies which say, "What problem?" and try to delay and prevaricate around the issue are the ones which end up in trouble.
There is a well understood political damage control drill. Isolate and contain the damage. Do it now. Don't try to pretend the damage is imaginary. It's not.
Posted by: torquewrench at August 20, 2012 01:14 PM (ymG7s)
Posted by: Doc at August 20, 2012 01:15 PM (3HsdR)
Posted by: Dave at August 20, 2012 01:15 PM (z0U44)
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2012 01:15 PM (siNEk)
Posted by: NJRob at August 20, 2012 01:15 PM (FVp26)
Posted by: Todd Akin. R-etarded at August 20, 2012 01:15 PM (ucgeP)
F you Jimmy Joe @ #525.
Posted by: Ed at August 20, 2012 05:12 PM (7U7hA)
Average Joe sucks cock by choice, for the record.
Posted by: ErikW at August 20, 2012 01:15 PM (XHQgs)
Posted by: nickless at August 20, 2012 01:15 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Jimmy John at August 20, 2012 01:15 PM (VMcoS)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 20, 2012 01:16 PM (i330i)
And then you start Tweeting like a canary.
Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at August 20, 2012 01:16 PM (IlZPo)
Posted by: WaitingForMartel at August 20, 2012 01:16 PM (YlJWx)
"And the Republicansshould have something BIG planned for the day when $16 Trillion hits. That only comes around once."
Hopefully, no. If it must happen at all, there must be two times that the debt hits $16T. Once on the way up, and then once more on the way back down.
Posted by: reason at August 20, 2012 01:16 PM (CGjum)
Posted by: Joe Biden at August 20, 2012 01:16 PM (s19xY)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at August 20, 2012 01:16 PM (csi6Y)
My only opinion on this is what I believe to be the larger issue.
Economics aside we, meaning almost nobody, wants a politician to speak about fundamental issues.
Core, fundamental issues that they believe in.
Things that define exactly who they are as free people in what has been a free country, Paulistas talk about this constantly.
Our politics are retail. Don't do anything to piss off most voters. Don't make them internally say, ooooh what did he/she say that for.
Someday we will have to come to terms with this, as a country, can we debate and discuss different veiws or not.
Posted by: Finn McCool at August 20, 2012 01:16 PM (R/8dI)
Posted by: Jimmy-Joe at August 20, 2012 05:11 PM (xU2OO)
Are you going to spew Kos talking points or are you going to bring something to the table?
How as the Republican party ruined women's lives, exactly?
Posted by: © Sponge at August 20, 2012 01:17 PM (UK9cE)
The bad news, Ms. Foster, is that you were in fact legitimately raped.
The good news is you matched your score which entitles you to a free game and a pregnancy free recovery.
Posted by: Dr. Akin at August 20, 2012 01:17 PM (okfoK)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 20, 2012 01:17 PM (pLTLS)
unless its a hot 13 year old and you're a big time movie director stoned in a hot tub.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 01:17 PM (r4wIV)
Currently the FDA requires a MASSIVE FUCKING BLACK LABEL on the package that says "MAY CAUSE ABORTIONS."
We are given our women pills to kill our children.
What about this is a nation of any values at all?
If you can not bring yourself to defend the unborn, the most vulnerable, who are undergoing a 4 decade long genocide resulting in over 50 million murders, you have no principles.
If you have no principles, you are a RINO. I think this is a great opportunity. Once and for all, are we the party of principles or not? What are those principles? If those principles do not include "killing babies is wrong. PERIOD" then the time for an independent conservative party, or a Constitutional Convention (called through the legally permitted channels) has now arrived.
The day after the inauguration will mark 40 years of Roe v Wade. 40 years is long enough. Let's settle this issue now.
Posted by: Hopeless at August 20, 2012 01:17 PM (xutGe)
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at August 20, 2012 01:17 PM (d6TfZ)
... soft on rape...
There is a difference between soft-on rape and hard-on rape. Let me tell you all about it!
Posted by: Todd Akin at August 20, 2012 01:17 PM (vjyZP)
One day y'all will learn.
Posted by: irongrampa at August 20, 2012 01:17 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: toby928© at August 20, 2012 01:17 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: jewells45 at August 20, 2012 01:18 PM (UljOc)
Just think of all those women union leaders and Democratic Party women politicians defeated by Republicans. Weep for their loss of power and influence!!!
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 01:18 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: The littl shyning man at August 20, 2012 01:18 PM (PH+2B)
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at August 20, 2012 01:18 PM (PMGbu)
Posted by: cynder ella at August 20, 2012 01:18 PM (oZfic)
That's easy, most women close their eyes when they get raped, and that is a sure way not to get pregnant, but you can get pregnant from a toilet seat.
Posted by: Todd Akin, OBGYN at August 20, 2012 01:19 PM (WR5xI)
Posted by: Nora in the 20% at August 20, 2012 01:19 PM (VxqUc)
Posted by: Obama at August 20, 2012 01:19 PM (8HhF2)
2) The problem isn't "no exception" candidates. Personhood Amendments haven't fared badly at the polls, except when they've been poorly written. And nothing is more "no exception" than that view. The problem is:
3) Stupidity from the candidate. There's no "graceful way out" from being a moron. All Akin needed to do was STAY ON MESSAGE. If they wanted to talk about abortion say, "I'm pro-life, no exceptions. But that isn't what this race is about, and abortion isn't going to be decided at the Federal Level anyway." Then if they want to go there, say, "99% of all abortions have nothing to do with this. How about we address abortion as birth control, and the billion dollar, poorly regulated, low sanitation standard nightmares that are abortion mills." Don't fight THEIR battle. Fight YOURS.
That was too much work for Akin, who has never been one to do his own intellectual heavy lifting. So I'm not surprised he was "overexuberent" on air. I'm only surprised it happened so quickly.
Posted by: Shawn at August 20, 2012 01:19 PM (/lltO)
Posted by: Mel Gibson at August 20, 2012 01:19 PM (DGIjM)
""The views expressed were offensive," Obama said. "Rape is rape." "
Not as offensive as leaving a newborn in a closet to die. Mr. President.
Posted by: polynikes at August 20, 2012 01:19 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2012 01:19 PM (siNEk)
Posted by: 56 and loving RR at August 20, 2012 01:19 PM (e9kQC)
Because of the Republican Party, Nancy Pelosi no longer gets to use the USAF as her family's personal air taxi.
It's TRAGIC.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 20, 2012 01:19 PM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Jimmy-Joe at August 20, 2012 01:19 PM (LTbLf)
A courageous stand.
Remember when he was asked about abortion in 2008, and he opined that, in his principled, measured view, reflecting hours of sober thought and a side-order of gravitas, any opinion on that subject was above his pay grade?
Posted by: Waterhouse at August 20, 2012 01:19 PM (xr29d)
Posted by: MaxMBJ at August 20, 2012 01:20 PM (lOlyY)
Posted by: nickless at August 20, 2012 01:20 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: steevy at August 20, 2012 01:20 PM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at August 20, 2012 05:17 PM (d6TfZ)
Yes it did. I can't figure out where the page breaking comment is though.
Posted by: buzzion at August 20, 2012 01:20 PM (GULKT)
No, no those are 'comfort rooms' didn't you get the memo?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 01:20 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 20, 2012 01:21 PM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2012 01:21 PM (siNEk)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 20, 2012 01:21 PM (i330i)
I hear Akin could use a damage control expert about now. You'd be a great one.
Posted by: Craig Poe at August 20, 2012 01:21 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: Nora in the 20% at August 20, 2012 01:21 PM (VxqUc)
Posted by: toby928© at August 20, 2012 05:17 PM (QupBk)
Yeah, sorry. I just grow tired sometimes of these monkeys coming in and flinging their shit everywhere, but bringing nothing of substance.
Posted by: © Sponge at August 20, 2012 01:21 PM (UK9cE)
This is one of the reasons it's nice to have a strong party apparatus, insiders and bruising primaries.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 20, 2012 01:21 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Todd Akin. R-etarded at August 20, 2012 01:22 PM (ucgeP)
Posted by: Dave at August 20, 2012 01:22 PM (z0U44)
Posted by: Hopeless at August 20, 2012 04:52 PM (xutGe)"
So you're going to force a woman to bring the child of her rapist to term, is that it? I mean 'force' literally here, since you would need to employ the coercive power of the state to enforce it. Say a rape victim finds she's pregnant as the result of sexual assault and declares her her intent to have an abortion, no matter what. So what then? Do you take the woman into custody and imprison her until the child comes to term? Do you charge her with murder or manslaughter once the abortion has taken place?
You and yours can't seem to grasp the legal complexities and political realities involved. Your all-or-nothing position on abortion, one excluding the rape or incest exception, will never achieve legislative success. You'll get nothing--but hey, you'll feel all smug and warm inside knowing you didn't compromise your principles.
Posted by: troyriser at August 20, 2012 01:22 PM (vtiE6)
Posted by: Mr Pink at August 20, 2012 01:22 PM (s19xY)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 01:22 PM (05RcU)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at August 20, 2012 01:22 PM (Tamfi)
That was one of the reasons I believed he couldn't win. He was so obviously a crappy candidate and so transparently pandering. Turned out nobody was really listening to a word he or McCain said, they just wanted a Democrat in that office instead of a Republican.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 01:22 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Chairman Mow at August 20, 2012 01:22 PM (J1dlk)
By the way, and I may not have any standing on this due to being a man, I am very uncomfortable with the fact that the only person that dies resulting from a rape isn't the rapist or the victim but the unborn child.
I don't have an answer for this.
It bothers me to no end that this is actually a political topic in a country of 300 mil. people.
No government can answer this question it is, exsistential I guess, defining who you are as a person.
Anyway that's my two cents, otherwise, I am very uncomfortable with this being an election issue.
Posted by: Finn McCool at August 20, 2012 01:22 PM (R/8dI)
Posted by: steevy at August 20, 2012 01:23 PM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: the pink cracker formerly known as the hobbit Donna at August 20, 2012 01:23 PM (W2Z3C)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at August 20, 2012 05:13 PM (+lsX1)
I hear ya, but the Olds what was I had at hand.
Posted by: Ghost Ted Kennedy at August 20, 2012 01:23 PM (AWmfW)
Posted by: buzzion at August 20, 2012 05:20 PM (GULKT)
Isn't the column width dictated by the initial post?
Ace did it...
Posted by: © Sponge at August 20, 2012 01:23 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: thunderb at August 20, 2012 01:23 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: cynder ella at August 20, 2012 01:23 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: GOP Bloggers Association at August 20, 2012 01:24 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Nora in the 20% at August 20, 2012 01:24 PM (VxqUc)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 01:24 PM (05RcU)
Posted by: nickless at August 20, 2012 01:24 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Joran van der Sloot at August 20, 2012 01:24 PM (ucgeP)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 20, 2012 01:25 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: Ed at August 20, 2012 01:25 PM (7U7hA)
Posted by: USS Diversity at August 20, 2012 01:25 PM (2d71t)
Posted by: 56 and loving RR at August 20, 2012 05:19 PM (e9kQC)
They will ask about it if he quits or not.
Posted by: The Jackhole at August 20, 2012 01:25 PM (nTgAI)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 01:25 PM (05RcU)
Posted by: Honey the Badger at August 20, 2012 01:25 PM (GvYeG)
Well its that or you murder a helpless child totally innocent of its father's evil. Why should they die? I'm not going to say this is even common because I don't know but I do know of women who have been healed by and helped to get over the trauma of her assault by that baby being born and in her arms.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 01:25 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Jane Roe at August 20, 2012 01:25 PM (05wTr)
My comfort is that this happened now, when at least something can be done about it-- and in August instead of October.
Posted by: Filly at August 20, 2012 01:26 PM (flZ3r)
Posted by: cynder ella at August 20, 2012 01:26 PM (oZfic)
I just grow tired sometimes of these monkeys coming in and flinging their shit everywhere, but bringing nothing of substance.
You gotta fling some poo to get a Macbeth.
Posted by: the monkeys at August 20, 2012 01:26 PM (okfoK)
Just because sometimes some people will choose to violate or circumvent a law/principle/etc does not mean that there should not be one.
Further, there are multiple persons involved. In the first part is the doctor, who bears the greatest of all guilt in these situations, and in the second part any attending/assisting nurses. Just because you haven't bothered with a basic google search to research 40 years of detailed, intricate, rich, pro-baby though doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Again, principles. Do you have any? Abortion is an intrinsic evil.
Posted by: Hopeless at August 20, 2012 01:26 PM (xutGe)
Posted by: Dave at August 20, 2012 05:22 PM (z0U44)
Brilliant. Akin should call a press conference and say just that, before formally announcing he's in or out.
Posted by: Craig Poe at August 20, 2012 01:26 PM (BVkEs)
Akin cooked his bacon.
The longer he stays in the longer this issue stays front and center and the better the left gets at tarring us with it.
Obama says something that Only Chauncey Gardner would and is praised for it...Rape is Rape....well duh, but because of Akin the Asshat, omg look what a great leader our dear obamao is.
Thanks a lot Akin, I hope you get raped in the ass legitimately by a rabid racoon.
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at August 20, 2012 01:26 PM (ovpNn)
there's one pointing out Rosie O'Donnell nearly snuffed it due to a massive heart attack last week.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at August 20, 2012 05:18 PM (PMGbu)
Nearly? Damn.
Oh well, that's a just a preview of what's to come. Can't be that obese and full of hate before Satan calls her home.
Posted by: ErikW at August 20, 2012 01:26 PM (XHQgs)
Posted by: Ed at August 20, 2012 05:25 PM (7U7hA)
This is what Obumbles took and twisted up
Posted by: The Jackhole at August 20, 2012 01:26 PM (nTgAI)
Posted by: Joran van der Sloot at August 20, 2012 01:27 PM (ucgeP)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 20, 2012 01:27 PM (T0NGe)
Ace did it...
Posted by: © Sponge at August 20, 2012 05:23 PM (UK9cE)
Not really. Large photos can fuck up the width in the initial post. But more often than not its a comment that someone managed to get in with a large string of unbroken text that avoided the spam filter. But I don't see anything like that in the post or any comments. So can't point out the culprit.
Posted by: buzzion at August 20, 2012 01:27 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Jimmy-Joe at August 20, 2012 01:27 PM (LTbLf)
I'm going according to my friends parents who are republicans. They are giving directly to campaigns not to the RNC and they are being vocal about their reasons why they are doing it this way.
Oh and one is giving huge money to a pac.
Posted by: cynder ella at August 20, 2012 05:26 PM (oZfic)
So, you're saying you did an Intrade poll and based everything on that, huh?
Brilliant. No wonder they call you cat piss.
Posted by: © Sponge at August 20, 2012 01:27 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at August 20, 2012 01:28 PM (ovpNn)
Posted by: Joran Van Der Sloots' left shoe at August 20, 2012 01:28 PM (J+6te)
Posted by: Doc at August 20, 2012 01:28 PM (3HsdR)
This topic will dominate political discourse until Akin leaves.
The Dems will make sure of it.
Akin gave them a Huge Gift.
Even if he bows out.....they will still try to stroke this.
But at lease we will be able to refute it better, if he is out of the way.
It's bad enough with the Dems toss out a 'Squirrel!'.....but when one of our own people does it, it's even worse.
Romney and Ryan have been on a roll.
They've been making this election about...Jobs, the Economy and Saving Medicare.
Akin fucked this up.
He needs to put on a dunce cap and go home.
Posted by: wheatie at August 20, 2012 01:28 PM (mtRB0)
Posted by: JParker at August 20, 2012 01:29 PM (8HhF2)
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2012 01:29 PM (siNEk)
The best part about this is precisely that it will force every candidate to answer questions on it.
40 years have passed. We need to know where each politician stands: killing babies, are you for it or against it?
Posted by: Hopeless at August 20, 2012 01:29 PM (xutGe)
Posted by: Joran Van Der Sloots' left shoe at August 20, 2012 01:29 PM (J+6te)
Posted by: toby928© at August 20, 2012 01:29 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: the pink cracker formerly known as the hobbit Donna at August 20, 2012 01:29 PM (W2Z3C)
Posted by: cynder ella at August 20, 2012 01:30 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: SH at August 20, 2012 01:30 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at August 20, 2012 01:30 PM (XvHmy)
Posted by: thunderb at August 20, 2012 01:30 PM (Dnbau)
Brilliant fucking political strategy, folks.
Posted by: Fritz at August 20, 2012 01:30 PM (RuVpG)
Posted by: SH at August 20, 2012 01:31 PM (gmeXX)
"I doubt McCain would have done the same."
My friends, we have nothing to fear about a national discussion to try and reevaluate our definition of rape.
Posted by: your friend John McCain at August 20, 2012 01:31 PM (+hPIb)
Posted by: The Political Hat at August 20, 2012 01:31 PM (XvHmy)
I'm against abortion as much as anyone.
I'm also against rape.
That's why I propose that victims of rape be allowed to let the fetus die in a closet.
Posted by: RoyalOil at August 20, 2012 01:31 PM (imtbm)
Posted by: Joran Van Der Sloots' left shoe at August 20, 2012 05:29 PM (J+6te)
Oh you wouldnt want to know...
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at August 20, 2012 01:31 PM (ovpNn)
Posted by: T at August 20, 2012 01:31 PM (IWwgs)
634 557
Another thing that a woman can do to prevent a rape-pregnancy from
occurring is to handle a serpent within three hours of the assault. She
should take care not to dance however, as this can result in twins.
----
As a public service, i am offering my trouser snake to any women in need. If interested, please email me, and include a photo. I'll get right back to you.
legal disclaimer....no fatties
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at August 20, 2012 01:31 PM (HPQnO)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 20, 2012 01:31 PM (QF8uk)
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at August 20, 2012 01:31 PM (ovpNn)
Is that so much to ask?
Posted by: navybrat at August 20, 2012 01:31 PM (xn8dF)
I still can't believe Deval won.
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2012 05:21 PM (siNEk)
__________________________________________
In Teddy Kennedy's and Barney Frank's state? I still can't believe Scott Brown won.
Posted by: Donna V. at August 20, 2012 01:32 PM (EflcN)
Posted by: filbert at August 20, 2012 01:32 PM (smvTK)
Posted by: cynder ella at August 20, 2012 05:30 PM (oZfic)
That's Sponge, cat piss.
And besides, you talked to 2 people, that you supposedly know that are pissed with the RNC. Ignoring the fact that the RNC is raising MILLIONS OF DOLLARS a month, you're still willing to base "no one is giving money to the RNC because I've got 2 rich friends that aren't."
Do you SEE the error in your logic yet?
Posted by: © Sponge at August 20, 2012 01:33 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 05:25 PM (r4wIV)"
Well, since you put it that way, loading your response with emotive, high-sounding bullshit, then I guess I'm in favor of infanticide. Line 'em up.
Posted by: troyriser at August 20, 2012 01:33 PM (vtiE6)
Didn't Steelman come in third?
Posted by: the pink cracker formerly known as the hobbit Donna at August 20, 2012 01:33 PM (W2Z3C)
Simple question: are babies people?
Everything stems from that. Either they're people or they're not. If they're people you're defending genocide.
It's not about warm fuzzies. It's about murder and genocide. No humans are "sub humans" and therefore okay to kill.
Posted by: Hopeless at August 20, 2012 01:33 PM (xutGe)
When it comes to rape, men do have a trick up their sleeves.
If someone other than paul ryan tried to legitimately rape me, i would just shit on their dick.
If that doesnt kill their woody...oh hell they arent human.
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at August 20, 2012 01:33 PM (ovpNn)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at August 20, 2012 01:33 PM (Tamfi)
Posted by: cynder ella at August 20, 2012 05:30 PM (oZfic)
Just because you gave them real tuna for supper instead of fancy feast does not make them wealthy wealthy you delusional loon.
Posted by: buzzion at August 20, 2012 01:33 PM (GULKT)
core of my country.
You know Jimmy. I think those who are in the grassroots for your party are the least educated and most arrogant people on Earth. They believe that you can structure a society from the top and still have freedom, despite the fact that not only is there no practical example, no one has even theorized how that might be done. You can ask the dimmest hick you can find that question and they know it can't be done. They also know that industry and entrepreneurship = food, housing, clothing, jobs, security, and a whole host of other things that keep us from abject poverty.
Why are liberals sooooo stupid that they believe these fairy tales and are outsmarted by these dumb hicks?
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 20, 2012 01:33 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Soona at August 20, 2012 01:34 PM (c/sjC)
Posted by: buzzion at August 20, 2012 05:20 PM (GULKT)
I think it was Donna V's comment @559.
No offense Donna but it happened on the other thread too after you put the long line to separate your comment from the one you're responding to.
Posted by: Tami at August 20, 2012 01:34 PM (X6akg)
It was his "if it was REALLY rape the woman's body would have rejected the fetus from being formed" concept he was pushing.
He went full on 100% scientifically stupid to the point where if a woman gets pregnant he's convinced it's because she "wanted" it... or something comparable.
“First of all, from what I understand from doctors [pregnancy from rape] is really rare. If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.”
This is the dumbassery that is going to get him in trouble. By this "logic" if a woman is raped and gets pregnant, it wasn't really rape because her body didn't "shut the whole thing down" so she wasn't REALLY raped.It wasn't rape-rape as Whoopi would say.
And this is why he's doomed. He went well past science, logic, and rationality to proclaim women who are truly raped can't possibly get pregnant... or at least it's so really really rare that it isn't a concern.
Defending his idiocy now requires someone to try to defend redefining rape as only being rape if the woman doesn't get pregnant from it. I'm not thinking much of anyone is willing to die on THAT hill.
No abortions, sure... there are defenders for that hill; but that isn't where he put the flag; he's on top of Mount Stupid wondering why he's surrounded and getting pummeled.
Posted by: gekkobear at August 20, 2012 01:34 PM (X0NX1)
He never said that it wasn't possible for a rape victim to get pregnant. He said right before that something about doctors saying pregnancy from rape is rare (about 5% according to a study someone linked earlier).
It was stupidly worded but not what some are claiming here or making jokes about. Way to pile on the leftist bandwagon folks. This is why people call the GOP the stupid party, the members fall all over themselves to attack each other at the slightest provocation.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 01:34 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 20, 2012 01:34 PM (I4nm0)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 20, 2012 01:35 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: yinzer at August 20, 2012 01:35 PM (/Mla1)
The first thing I want to hear out of Akin's replacement's mouth is
"Let's talk about Obama's vote against providing medical care to infants
surviving botched abortions."
My error. Akin's "replacement". Sometimes I read too fast. Still a great strategy, for any Republican.
Posted by: Craig Poe at August 20, 2012 01:35 PM (BVkEs)
"How as the Republican party ruined women's lives, exactly?"
Whole lotta women's lives fixin' to be ruined by shirtless Paul Ryan pics, KWIM?
Posted by: reason at August 20, 2012 01:35 PM (+hPIb)
Posted by: Compliance is futile at August 20, 2012 01:35 PM (KXm42)
Posted by: Joran Van Der Sloots' left shoe at August 20, 2012 01:35 PM (J+6te)
Posted by: TSUGambler at August 20, 2012 01:35 PM (fQjba)
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2012 01:35 PM (siNEk)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 20, 2012 01:36 PM (YjDyJ)
Whole lotta women's lives fixin' to be ruined by shirtless Paul Ryan pics, KWIM? Posted by: reason
are we talking lives or legitimate lives?
there's a difference you know...
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at August 20, 2012 01:36 PM (ovpNn)
Posted by: RNC at August 20, 2012 01:36 PM (SBdwW)
Sorry, I was following up on the tone of your "forcing a woman" line of argument. Those are your choices: she carries the baby to birth or kills it. What did the baby do to be killed? If its about reminding her of the rape, when does that line get drawn, is it okay to kill your 10 year old because he's starting to look too much like the rapist daddy?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 01:36 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: CheChe v.7.0 at August 20, 2012 01:36 PM (feFL6)
Posted by: steevy at August 20, 2012 01:36 PM (6o4Fb)
I think it was Donna V's comment @559.
No offense Donna but it happened on the other thread too after you put the long line to separate your comment from the one you're responding to.
Posted by: Tami at August 20, 2012 05:34 PM (X6akg)
Yup, that'd do it. She'll have to pay the fine. One personalized topless pic per moron.
Posted by: buzzion at August 20, 2012 01:37 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: toby928© at August 20, 2012 01:37 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 20, 2012 05:34 PM (I4nm0)
Heheh.
Posted by: © Sponge at August 20, 2012 01:37 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Honey the Badger at August 20, 2012 05:05 PM (GvYeG)
Master and Commander was Russell Crow - Gibson did that horrible Bounty crap. I believe that "steady" was from Gladiator.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 20, 2012 01:37 PM (X3lox)
It seems to me that all those polling numbers related to abortion are meaningless. This election is not about abortion, because we as a society have let far too much water flow under the bridge. Jeez, a private citizen cannot even say that he thinks the concept of marriage as it has been defined and understood for thousands of years in most civilizations should remain unchanged. If we don't get individuals with honor, principles, and intelligence in office, we are lost as a country and as a people. And those people need to use their intelligence to reverse the course of this country over years, if not decades, NOT in the 89 days or so before a nation-defining presidential election.
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 20, 2012 01:38 PM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: JParker at August 20, 2012 01:38 PM (8HhF2)
We are talking about killing human beings here.
Murder is always wrong. Period.
Posted by: Hopeless at August 20, 2012 01:38 PM (xutGe)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 20, 2012 01:38 PM (I4nm0)
As opposed to the party of Guam tipping over, "This socialist....", the former KKK member, and Ted Kennedy.
Posted by: Filly at August 20, 2012 01:38 PM (flZ3r)
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2012 01:38 PM (siNEk)
I don't think so, usually it means "not for rape or incest" because I'm in that camp and I am regretfully tolerant of ending an abortion that will kill the mother. After all: both will die if the mother dies. Better that at least one lives.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 01:39 PM (r4wIV)
Wrong. Consult the Didache, one of the earliest known Christian documents (maybe even THE earliest) as well as the original Hippocratic Oath.
Posted by: Hopeless at August 20, 2012 01:40 PM (xutGe)
yeah but lots of pretty topless islander girls made up for the poor quality of the script.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 01:40 PM (r4wIV)
732 Guam didn't tip over ... WTH??????
Posted by: Honey the Badger at August 20, 2012 01:41 PM (GvYeG)
Posted by: Dave at August 20, 2012 01:41 PM (z0U44)
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2012 01:41 PM (siNEk)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 20, 2012 01:42 PM (I4nm0)
My position is the authentic conservative and Catholic position. The one you are articulating is the "its okay to kill babies because of political expediency" position. Followed by a failed attempt at an argument ad absurdum.
Question: Babies: people or not?
Posted by: Hopeless at August 20, 2012 01:42 PM (xutGe)
If our hopes and dreams rest on one senatorial race...
No, fuck that thought. Its too ridiculous.
Right on.
Posted by: Finn McCool at August 20, 2012 01:43 PM (R/8dI)
Posted by: steevy at August 20, 2012 01:43 PM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2012 01:44 PM (siNEk)
I sent Akin an email asking that he drop out of the race. I wrote that I appreciated his concern that false claims of rape might be made to justify abortions if rape were a specific exception to a ban on abortions, but that he made himself a distraction. I asked that he withdraw for the good of the nation.
We shall see what he decides.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at August 20, 2012 01:44 PM (xFgmp)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 20, 2012 01:44 PM (TMB3S)
Posted by: Honey the Badger at August 20, 2012 01:44 PM (GvYeG)
Posted by: toby928© at August 20, 2012 01:44 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2012 01:45 PM (siNEk)
Posted by: JParker at August 20, 2012 01:45 PM (8HhF2)
Posted by: thunderb at August 20, 2012 01:45 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2012 05:41 PM (siNEk)
That was a great movie. A little intense, but awesome.
I think you're right about Braveheart - the scene with cavalry charging them, I guess.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 20, 2012 01:45 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: Hopeless at August 20, 2012 05:26 PM (xutGe)
More principled than you, I'm guessing, since I don't go straight for the ad hominem attack when attempting to engage another in reasoned argument. When I fight over principles, I pick my battles and fight to win. You do no favors for the pro-life cause by choosing as your starting point a non-negotiable and ultimately indefensible position.
Posted by: troyriser at August 20, 2012 01:46 PM (vtiE6)
Posted by: steevy at August 20, 2012 01:46 PM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: el gordo at August 20, 2012 01:46 PM (gUdtQ)
Didn't one Senate vote let Obamacare squeak through?
http://tinyurl.com/cdaf9mo
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 20, 2012 01:46 PM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: Donna V. at August 20, 2012 01:46 PM (EflcN)
Well, I've got to go to work now. In parting I'll say that no matter what happens in MO, the nation is going to reject the SCOAMT and a dem senate.
And also, the dems dare not push this too far or their own record (especially the SCOAMT's) on abortion will come front and center. Their record on this is ugly, very ugly. I'll be lurking on the ONT.
Posted by: Soona at August 20, 2012 01:46 PM (c/sjC)
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2012 01:47 PM (siNEk)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 01:47 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 20, 2012 01:47 PM (I4nm0)
Posted by: Dave S. at August 20, 2012 01:48 PM (+z6SD)
Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at August 20, 2012 01:48 PM (J6kXj)
I take all poll numbers with a grain of salt, but some "shock" me if you will. I was being honest, I figured the number would be closer to 10%. Of course, everything in this country polls 10%.
But let me address your larger point that this election is not about abortion. I partially dissent. While that may not be the most important issue, nothing contrasts the two parties more than the abortion issue. Whether it is from a moral perspective, a federalist perspective, or a fiscal perspective ... the differences are stark. And I would submit that as much as we want people to vote on the economy and spending, the abortion (and other cultural issues) spark more passion and actually move more votes. The number of comments to the last two posts is a testament to the emotive power of the issue.
It may seem odd that I say that even as I argue that Akin should resign. But it is not his viewpoint that concerns me. If I accept that his viewpoint is that there should be no exception for rape. It is how he expressed it and the lack of awareness to know when he should not express it. If this were a run-off election, I would not care. But this ties into the broader election issue.
I don't think the GOP should ever run from the abortion debate. But that doesn't mean I think it should jump right into the most controversial aspect of it. If anything, the proper way to announce your pro-life bonafides is to tie it into the broader argument of Obamacare and the assault on our individual religious liberties. But if you are going to venture into the non-rape exception, please do it much better.
We can win the abortion debate, we have been winning it. I interpreted that polling number (as suspect as it may be) as evidence of such. But we need to win the larger argument that life begins at conception. That is it. If we win that point, things will start working themselves out.
Posted by: SH at August 20, 2012 01:49 PM (gmeXX)
Do you have any principles?
Is one of those principles, "Killing babies is wrong?"
I'll provide you a list of other non-negotiable and equally indefensible positions if you'd like them: slavery is wrong, rape is wrong, genocide is wrong. Any person who, under any conditions, attempted to argue otherwise in a political arena would rightly be cast into the outer darkness. Those things, like killing babies, are morally indefensible under all circumstances.
But, for political expediency? No, not even for political expediency.
It's a question of principles: are you okay with killing babies? Yes/No.
Posted by: Hopeless at August 20, 2012 01:49 PM (xutGe)
Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at August 20, 2012 01:50 PM (J6kXj)
Posted by: joe at August 20, 2012 01:50 PM (i3OIF)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 20, 2012 01:50 PM (I4nm0)
I doubt it, since that's not what Aiken said. Why do people so desperately want to believe the left's spin on this? Do you think Romney killed a guy's wife while he ran Bain, too?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 01:50 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: joe at August 20, 2012 01:50 PM (i3OIF)
Posted by: logprof at August 20, 2012 01:51 PM (Dkz8q)
They don't. Official Church teaching is no exceptions.
Here's a good explanation: http://tinyurl.com/cjtk8uj
Posted by: Filly at August 20, 2012 01:51 PM (flZ3r)
Posted by: joe at August 20, 2012 01:52 PM (i3OIF)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 05:36 PM (r4wIV)
It isn't about reminding a rape victim of the rape. It isn't about the age of the child. It's about the real-world political consequences and civil liberties ramifications of such absolutist legislation. But hey, yes, sure, by all means, let's slaughter ten-year-olds while we're at it. 'Come here, Tommy. Take a break from that videogame for a minute, will ya? There's a .45 I want you to listen to.'
Posted by: troyriser at August 20, 2012 01:52 PM (vtiE6)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 20, 2012 01:54 PM (TMB3S)
@troyriser. " You do no favors for the pro-life cause by choosing as your starting point a non-negotiable andultimately indefensibleposition."
I think you are wrong on the indefensible position aspect of it. On a personal level, it is very defensible if you believe life begins at conception. And if the country accepts that belief, then the country may just also accept that there should be no exceptions (other than life of the mother).
From a political perspective it may be negotiaable, but I don't think it will need to be negotiated. Because I doubt there will ever be a compromise on abortion. That ship sailed a long time ago. One side is going to win. If I put my money on it, it would be the pro-life side.
Posted by: SH at August 20, 2012 01:54 PM (gmeXX)
Real world political fact: All human beings have rights.
One of them is not to have their brains sucked out.
Do you agree or disagree?
This returns us to the original question you keep avoiding. Cute little tiny babies-- people or not?
Posted by: Hopeless at August 20, 2012 01:54 PM (xutGe)
Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at August 20, 2012 01:54 PM (J6kXj)
Seriously? I had a seriously catechism-shoddy Catholic education myself for about 16 years, but that's one piece of idiocy I didn't have thrown at me. Wow.
Posted by: Filly at August 20, 2012 01:55 PM (flZ3r)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at August 20, 2012 01:55 PM (9eDbm)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 20, 2012 01:55 PM (I4nm0)
Posted by: toby928© at August 20, 2012 01:55 PM (QupBk)
However, I am for GOP politicians keeping their big mouths shut and not saying things that are going to lose them their election. And if they are so stupid as to do that, they should accept the responsibility for screwing up and drop out before they cost their party, and their country a great deal more.
Mr. Akin needs to withdraw asap and hand the candidacy over to someone that can win.
Posted by: Lee at August 20, 2012 01:55 PM (RtwOA)
Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at August 20, 2012 01:55 PM (J6kXj)
If for no other reason than we don't kill our own children. As an electoral matter, it gives us a real advantage 18 years after birth.
Posted by: Hopeless at August 20, 2012 01:56 PM (xutGe)
Posted by: joe at August 20, 2012 01:56 PM (i3OIF)
Part of me wanted to go back to college for a Master's in Divinity.
Mostly just so I could tell people that I have a Master's in Divinity. I'm pretty sure when you have one of those, and you mention it, a soft headwind blows for a few seconds...
Posted by: reason at August 20, 2012 01:56 PM (+hPIb)
Please tell me what he really meant by this statement. I am unfamiliar with the shut down procedure.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 20, 2012 05:54 PM (TMB3S)
He was trying to soften his argument by using the left's "mind-over-body" idea. Lefties love this notion. While it is true that stress can cause all sorts of physical reactions, this was a leap too far - but not something along the lines that the left regularly accepts about all sorts of issues, as serious matters. Akin messed up by not simply stating his position without trying to PC it up by minimizing the number of pregnancies that occur from actual rapes, which is exceedingly small. Other than that, nothing he said was incorrect or indefensible.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 20, 2012 01:57 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at August 20, 2012 01:57 PM (J6kXj)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 20, 2012 01:57 PM (I4nm0)
Posted by: SH at August 20, 2012 01:58 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 20, 2012 05:57 PM (X3lox)
Lay off the LSD.
Posted by: buzzion at August 20, 2012 01:58 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Filly at August 20, 2012 01:59 PM (flZ3r)
Posted by: joe at August 20, 2012 01:59 PM (i3OIF)
Posted by: Donna V. at August 20, 2012 05:46 PM (EflcN)
Lol! There ain't nothing this 1990's blog can't do!
Posted by: Tami at August 20, 2012 01:59 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 20, 2012 02:00 PM (I4nm0)
Is one of those principles, "Killing babies is wrong?"
I'll provide you a list of other non-negotiable and equally indefensible positions if you'd like them: slavery is wrong, rape is wrong, genocide is wrong. Any person who, under any conditions, attempted to argue otherwise in a political arena would rightly be cast into the outer darkness. Those things, like killing babies, are morally indefensible under all circumstances.
But, for political expediency? No, not even for political expediency.
It's a question of principles: are you okay with killing babies? Yes/No.
Posted by: Hopeless at August 20, 2012 05:49 PM (xutGe)
.........................................................................
Wait, rape is wrong? Even if the victim gets pregnant and therefore must have really wanted the sex and it wasn't rape? I'm sure you mean only "legitimate" rape where the woman's body shuts down and prevents the pregnancy is wrong... right?
Sorry, that's where the fight is; and if you don't want to go there, I understand... but that's where Akin stepped on his d*ck.
Posted by: gekkobear at August 20, 2012 02:00 PM (X0NX1)
Posted by: SH at August 20, 2012 02:00 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at August 20, 2012 02:01 PM (J6kXj)
SH, my argument isn't "baby killer" my argument is one of shifting the debate entirely, as heavily advocated by Priests for Life.
If the starting point is about a "Woman's vague emotional stuff! Feelings! Why do you want to oppress women's feelings!" we lose every time.
If the starting point is, "Are babies people? Ok? Now what should our views be given that we remembered that cute little babies are actually people."
Posted by: Hopeless at August 20, 2012 02:01 PM (xutGe)
Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at August 20, 2012 02:01 PM (J6kXj)
Posted by: Hopeless at August 20, 2012 05:49 PM (xutGe)
Since I support the rape and incest exception, the answer would be yes, I'm 'okay' with killing babies. And since your other question was implicit, not stated outright, I'll go ahead and answer it, anyway: Yes, I also beat my girlfriend two or three times a week. Drop-kicking puppies and drowning kittens are hobbies. Handicapped people are hilarious.
Posted by: troyriser at August 20, 2012 02:02 PM (vtiE6)
"She was not told that in Parochical School."
You keep forgetting to type out in actual words that you are saying this and doing the Jedi Hand Wave.
We can't actually see you, so we don't necessarily know right away that you are making the gesture.
Posted by: reason at August 20, 2012 02:02 PM (+hPIb)
"767: I don't think the GOP should ever run from the abortion debate. But that doesn't mean I think it should jump right into the most controversial aspect of it. If anything, the proper way to announce your pro-life bonafides is to tie it into the broader argument of Obamacare and the assault on our individual religious liberties. "
SH, that's the most sensible comment on this thread.
Posted by: Donna V. at August 20, 2012 02:02 PM (EflcN)
This has nothing to do with"Left's Spin on this". People heard what he said and made their own decision - that Akin is moron and need to drop out ASAP.
Posted by: runner at August 20, 2012 02:02 PM (WR5xI)
Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at August 20, 2012 05:57 PM (J6kXj)
I was in parochial school...uh....much before you....12 years of it. Never heard that. I'm not saying your weren't told that....just that I wasn't. Were was this? What was the order teaching?
Posted by: Tami at August 20, 2012 02:02 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: steevy at August 20, 2012 02:03 PM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: joe at August 20, 2012 02:03 PM (i3OIF)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 20, 2012 02:03 PM (TMB3S)
Posted by: logprof at August 20, 2012 02:04 PM (Dkz8q)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 20, 2012 02:04 PM (I4nm0)
Posted by: Filly at August 20, 2012 02:04 PM (flZ3r)
The rape was indeed wrong. It has already occured. The baby is now a human being. All human beings have rights.
That's where the debate is. Do you believe babies are people? Do you believe all people have rights?
Or, could you provide me with a list of the people you think should be denied rights based on their inclusion in a particular category like age, gender, location, race, etc? See the slippery slope you start going down just to justify killing a few babies?
Posted by: Hopeless at August 20, 2012 02:05 PM (xutGe)
Immediately before this he said that doctors say it is very rare for a woman to become pregnant from a rape. The data I've seen is 5%, which is less than the ordinary chances (around 11%, from what I've read).
He stated it poorly, but he didn't mean women have some magical technique, just that it doesn't very often happen, so he apparently speculated on some mechanism or natural process in a woman's body.
Doesn't that make more sense than him saying a woman can't get pregnant from rape, which is what the left is insisting? I mean, why the heck would anyone trust them to be rational or objective about this?
"It isn't about reminding a rape victim of the rape. It isn't about the age of the child. It's about the real-world political consequences and civil liberties ramifications of such absolutist legislation."
Huh, so your argument is that protecting human life is a civil rights violation?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 02:05 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: joe at August 20, 2012 02:06 PM (i3OIF)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 20, 2012 02:06 PM (I4nm0)
Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at August 20, 2012 02:06 PM (J6kXj)
The actual teachings of the Church haven't stopped people from saying stupid shit to children for 2000 years. I don't know if you're Catholic or not, but... trust us. Sometimes people get told some crazy things by religious education 'teachers.'
Posted by: Hopeless at August 20, 2012 02:08 PM (xutGe)
Posted by: joe at August 20, 2012 02:08 PM (i3OIF)
Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at August 20, 2012 02:09 PM (J6kXj)
BlackOrchid, that happened in the 1980's and not the 1950's? That is a very strange school you went to - and while I believe you, no, I don't think it was typical. My post-Vatican II school was full of Sr. Mary Pantsuits playing "Jesus Christ Superstar" for us in religion class. That was the '70's. We had a local OB/GYN come in and give us the facts of life talk and it was pretty straightforward.
Posted by: Donna V. at August 20, 2012 02:10 PM (EflcN)
Posted by: joe at August 20, 2012 02:10 PM (i3OIF)
@699
You are correct. Akin IS the GOP Establishment Candidate in the MO election. He was the handpicked of our chosen Blunt Dynasty.
Steelman ran as the Tea Party choice. Brunner as an outsider, investing 7mil of his own money in the campaign. The Establishment all lined up behind Akin, and still 60% of the MO GOP rejected him.
Oh, and I should add Akin was also the beneficiary of significant Democrat crossover, who saw him as the most eminently defeatable candidate in the General Election. And STILL the MO GOP propped him up.
So no, this choice squarely kicks Karl Rove's "smart people in the party leadership" mantra in the nads.
Posted by: Shawn at August 20, 2012 02:10 PM (/lltO)
Posted by: joe at August 20, 2012 02:11 PM (i3OIF)
I knew a guy in college who hated black people because when he was a kid a group of older black kids knocked him down and took his bike.
I know people who hate Christians because they met some who were jerks to them. Its sad, but too often that's how people react.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 02:11 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 20, 2012 02:11 PM (I4nm0)
LOL. You obviously haven't suffered through the mountains of bullshit in Catholic churches and schools. It sure would be nice if that's how it worked, eh?
Posted by: Hopeless at August 20, 2012 02:11 PM (xutGe)
In 2012 Akin was replaced on the Republican ticket, and the Republicans won the senate seat by 11%.
Missouri gave 61 % if it's votes to Republican Mitt Romney.
Can we please have a new thread now ???????
Posted by: nostrodamus at August 20, 2012 02:11 PM (cGWDQ)
Posted by: steevy at August 20, 2012 06:03 PM (6o4Fb)
I don't recall it ever either and I was in CCD from Kindergarten til I was Junior in high school. I also don't think anyone asked the question about rape either. So it could just be a case of "Don't talk about it unless asked" teaching philosophy.
Posted by: buzzion at August 20, 2012 02:11 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at August 20, 2012 02:12 PM (J6kXj)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 20, 2012 06:03 PM (TMB3S)
So what? They always disagree with me. They also have a Crybaby piece of shit leading them who has fucked us over at every turn since the 2010 election. I don't give a shit what the GOP leadershit think. They killed the party in 2006 and 2008 and were only revived by the Tea Party, which they all hated. Then they screwed over the Tea Party (right after being voted back in, in spite of themselves) to turn around and have the Crybaby Weeper explain that he understood the Occupoopers, who don't even understand themselves.
I'd be worried if the GOP leadershit agreed with me.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 20, 2012 02:12 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 20, 2012 02:14 PM (I4nm0)
Posted by: joe at August 20, 2012 02:15 PM (i3OIF)
Within the same community, when I attended Confession, I had two different priests give me these responses to the same sin:
1) "You kissed your boyfriend with passion? THAT'S A SIN."
2) "Anything up to oral sex is okay."
Posted by: Filly at August 20, 2012 02:17 PM (flZ3r)
Posted by: NJRob at August 20, 2012 02:17 PM (FVp26)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 20, 2012 02:18 PM (I4nm0)
Posted by: logprof at August 20, 2012 02:18 PM (Dkz8q)
Posted by: Steff McKee at August 20, 2012 02:19 PM (Gszws)
Posted by: NJRob at August 20, 2012 02:19 PM (FVp26)
Posted by: joe at August 20, 2012 02:20 PM (i3OIF)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 20, 2012 02:21 PM (I4nm0)
I can actually picture the class and the day the first time, but it wasn't the only time I got into that particular argument and heard that particular argument back at me.
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No problem....I understand.
Posted by: Tami at August 20, 2012 02:21 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: David C. at August 20, 2012 02:28 PM (ZtMso)
[handwave]
These are not the droids you are looking for.
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Posted by: ObiToolJoeBlowMe at August 20, 2012 02:28 PM (PMGbu)
Oh, and I should add Akin was also the beneficiary of significant Democrat crossover, who saw him as the most eminently defeatable candidate in the General Election
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I was wondering if MO was one of those states open to the opposing party in the primaries. Mainly because some MO posters here expressed surprise that he won the primary.
Posted by: kallisto at August 20, 2012 02:29 PM (jm/9g)
Posted by: David C. at August 20, 2012 06:28 PM (ZtMso)
52% of the population voted for Obama in 2008. Yes voters ARE stupid. We have the possibility of removing this guy from the ticket and not giving the voters a chance to engage in said stupidity. So I kind of feel like that option would be better than the rolling the dice on him being able to nuance himself out of the 'Pregnancy doesn't happen much if its a real rape' talking point.
Posted by: buzzion at August 20, 2012 02:34 PM (GULKT)
"[The] female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down."
Because we're dealing with voters. It doesn't matter if it's technically medically plausible in certain cases or not, all low-information undecided voter needs to hear is that one line and they'll immediately conclude he's just about the dumbest possible person they could cast their vote for. The public, by and large, is not comprised of doctors knowledgeable in ovulation and the effects of stress. Too large a portion is made up of people whose response to hearing that line is, "That is seriously some crazy talk. No way can I vote for that."
He probably could have papered over an abortion debate. He probably wasn't going to win the general after saying that. He definitely isn't going to win the general now that you've got prominent Republicans up and down the board disavowing him, who will inevitably be plastered into McCaskill ads every day from now to November.
As a practical matter, he needs to get out. If he's holding out for a better deal by tomorrow afternoon, whatever, make it quick. If he's holding out because he seriously thinks he can pull it off with no support and bipartisan opposition, that's not good. If he's holding out just to spite everybody? No idea what to do with him then.
Posted by: Dan K. at August 20, 2012 02:36 PM (c32CV)
Posted by: GOP Yoda at August 20, 2012 02:48 PM (fscec)
Wow.
Whatever else Rep Akin is or is not in life, he could wind up a mega-historical figure. One who not only re-elected the McCaskill but in the process lost Missouri and re-elected Obama.
50 years from now, state party committee youth out in the streets torching whats left of American small businesses will sport Akin T-Shirts.
On an epochal scale, this could compare to the Simspon's episode when Homer used a time-travel toaster to go way way back and kill the first fish with legs to ever crawl out of the sea.
If he stays in, could a write-in candidacy on behalf of either brunner or steeleman (one that had nationwide support from tea party folks and super pacs) win a 3-way race?
I believe it could but Akin should fall on his sword tomorrow.
Then after a period of sackcloth and ashes, he may reappear in public if and only if Obama and McCaskill are defeated.
But he is never again to run for office as a Republican.
Posted by: MikeD at August 20, 2012 02:58 PM (p8QOg)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 20, 2012 05:21 PM (i330i)
Has Motherfuckabee ever endorsed a female candidate outside of Arkansas, or even in Arkansas? I don't think he has, at least as far as I can remember. I do believe there's a certain faction (led by Motherfuckabee) who want Teh Wimminz barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen making his fat fucking ass a sammich. It's the whole "submit to your husband" thing and he seems to take it very literally. There is a "Christian Reconstructionist" movement that believes in some very silly utopian shit and wants to scrap common law and replace it with rules directly from the Bible. Scary shit, and I think Motherfuckabee is into it.
You can also partly blame Motherfuckabee for Miller's loss in AK. He sent his people up there to "help" and Miller foolishly chose to bring them onboard rather than use Palin's campaign people, who have actually won a statewide race in AK. Somebody who was involved in the campaign told Stacy McCain that Motherfuckabee's people totally fucked everything up.
Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at August 20, 2012 03:08 PM (KSjsb)
Posted by: MikeD at August 20, 2012 06:58 PM (p8QOg)
Some high-ranking people need to sit down with him and tell him that if he stays in not only is the race lost, but his political career is over.
And Motherfuckabee should just fucking kill himself. I'd prefer seppuku on a busy street corner, but if he wants to put a gun in his mouth I'd be okay with that.
Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at August 20, 2012 03:11 PM (KSjsb)
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