1

First?

 

2 First!

3 Well Bless his Heart!!!

4 Make that second. 

5 Well, at least their money won't be going to a useful race.

6 ::facepalm::

....how is it the party of stupid just keeps shooting themselves in the foot? We were riding high and then...this.

7 I had heard once that $0.01 donations actually cost more to process than they are worth, leading to a declining balance.

Anyone know if this is true?

8 Democrats got him nominated,


I have heard that and seen it posted by several people, even that his opponent funded his primary campaign.  But I have never seen a link to a reputable source to back it up.

9 remember the wisconsin money pit and rejoice

10 We're screwed? That's it, I'm not voting.

11 I had heard once that $0.01 donations actually cost more to process than they are worth, leading to a declining balance.

Anyone know if this is true?

Posted by: Alec Leamas at August 22, 2012 04:38 PM (mg08E)

It's true. Anything under like 25 cents actually takes money away from the merchant.

12 I'll donate a pot for Akin to piss in.

13

Well the tin lining to this dark cloud is Dems will be giving money to an R that could have been sent to a D.

 

Work with me people.

14 Personally I think we are placing far to much weight on stupid Akin. He may in fact lose his campaign, but I don't think it is going to have much impact on the national scene.

15

Petty Crimes

 ...'and so's your mother.'

That was good stuff, there.

 

16 I'll donate money in Akin's name to Romney.

17 I had heard once that $0.01 donations actually cost more to process than they are worth, leading to a declining balance. You know, that might be a good protest, although this doofus might take it as The Widow's Mite and be encouraged.

18 A Republican U.S. Senate campaign funded entirely by Democrats. It's just sick enough to actually be true.

19 I   didn't  expect a guy that up until sunday night really did believe that you couldn't get pregnant from a rape to end up being all that bright.  Akin is proving my expectations to be true.

20
Time to light the fuse under those lazy Gazan peckerwoods!

21

Consider the possibilities:

 

1. If Akin is a true believer in the pro-Life cause, he will conclude, perhaps after more prayerful reflection, that he needs to get out, because winning the Senate (and ensuring that we don't get more Elena Kagans on the Supreme Court) is so important.

2.  If, on the other hand, Akin is a cynical pol, he will also get out, but is waiting to see how much leverage he can muster to get the powers that be in the GOP to find him some sweet-tasting lobbying job that he can start after a well-earned vacation... say, on November 7th.

3. The worst case scenario is that Akin is a true believer... in Akin!   Then, like so many narcissitic pols, he will keep believing his own bullshit as he rides his barrel of it over the Falls.

 

Unfortunately, #3 is looking pretty likely right about now.

22 This is textbook operation chaos from Claire. Can't stand her, but in a sick way this has been very impressive display of political savvy. She's a total fraud, but no dummy.

23 I know this is crazy town thinking but what if we fight to win?

24 25th?

25 He's a cheap date.  We're only gonna let him get to 3rd base though.

26 As horrible as Akin is, think about it, who is going to suppress turnout more, Akin or Boehner?

27 I had heard once that $0.01 donations actually cost more to process than they are worth, leading to a declining balance. Anyone know if this is true? Posted by: Alec Leamas at August 22, 2012 04:38 PM (mg08E) This would be a brilliant idea. You could flood him with a hundred donations of 0.01 and screw him up big. Also, I think it is painfully obvious to EVERYONE that this guy isn't worth backing in any circumstance. He is... Alvin Green of the GOP.

28 Posted by: Vic at August 22, 2012 04:38 PM (YdQQY)

Vic I heard she funded negative campaign adds against Akins opponents, but don't have a reputable source for that.

29

Missouri's problem - I'm done worrying about it.

 

You get the government you deserve.....might be time for states to think about  revisiting  the 17th Amendment, no?

30 Personally I think we are placing far to much weight on stupid Akin. He may in fact lose his campaign, but I don't think it is going to have much impact on the national scene.

Yeah.  I mean, what are the odds?

31 I hope a lot of republicans who donated to him earlier will start asking for their money back.  And he needs to be asked about this anytime he's on the radio - he's delusional enough to say he'll return the donations, unaware that he doesn't have any money left to give back.  On the flip side, if he says he won't give it back he looks like an even bigger d*ck, if that is metaphysically possible.

32

Judo.... USE the medias overcoverage of the Akins story, to show its bias...

 

Every time they bring up Akin, ask why they talked about this, instead of the fact that we lost the 2000th American in Afganistan...

 

Say, I am not Akin... talk to him about his opinions... now, lets talk about things that MATTER....

 

Point OUT the MSM Hypocrisy.... even they are starting to realize, they are looking down at the Shark...

33 the donks are cheapazzes, they won't come up with enough scratch to keep him viable. Preazy and the wife are having enough of a time squeezing $3 donations out of their base.

34 The other thing that should be emphasized is what I said this morning.  In most States now he would have been forced into a run-off.  He won in a three way race with 36% of the vote.  That would not happen in my State. It encourages mischief, and not the good "sweater" kind.

35 File under Crime Pays:

In an unusual arrangement, a senior official of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives involved in the controversial gun operation Fast and Furious is receiving his government salary while working full time for the investment bank J.P. Morgan, according to two Republican lawmakers.

36

Democrats wasting a bunch of money on an election?

 

I'm  pretty  OK with this.

37 Well the Dem's "live boy" candidate is staying in too, so I'll call it even.

38

Posted by: Vic at August 22, 2012 04:38 PM (YdQQY)

I don't know about funding his campaign, but WaPo said earlier this month that dem PACs spent $1.5 million running ads beneficial to him.

39 It's great to be here in O-A-H-A!

40

Also, I think it is painfully obvious to EVERYONE that this guy isn't worth backing in any circumstance. He is...

Alvin Green of the GOP.

Posted by: CAC at August 22, 2012 04:43 PM

True, but democrats never had a prayer in South Carolina anyway.

41 If Dems want to send money to Akin instead of their local (D) candidates or the SCOAMF, I don't see much of a downside.

42 Rank and file 'rats won't donate.  He's going to burn through what he has with salaries alone.  He'll get a deal and drop out. 

43 If he makes a public appearance in his home district, I'll be the guy with the "abort this campaign" sign.

44 I called the National Republican Senatorial Committee and told them I'd donate to them when Akin dropped out just to give them more incentive to pressure the guy.

202-675-6000

45 why wouldn't Palin's idea of a third party challenge by Sarah Steelman work? especially if money revoked from Akin goes to her. Stranger things have happened...as we saw in Alaska with Murky-cow-ski

46

Fuck, he's already raised 30 thousand.

 

FUCK. Okay. Time for a write in campaign. Someone get Kit Bond on the phone.

47 I have heard that and seen it posted by several people, even that his opponent funded his primary campaign. But I have never seen a link to a reputable source to back it up.

Posted by: Vic at August 22, 2012 04:38 PM (YdQQY)

In one of his radio interviews, the host asked him about the allegation that he got money from McCaskill, $1.5m.  He sounded genuinely surprised at the question.   Said it was absurd but if she wanted to give him money, he'd take it.

48 Have shot of whiskey, ace, and let's see what happens before we mother-effing panic, shall we?

49 Let them donate to a Republican. Don't see how bleeding them of some money is a total loss for us.

50 Can anyone tell me if it's true that ingesting rapeseed oil to lower your cholesterol put's you at a very high risk of having it find purchase in your "fertile soil"? Asking for a friend.

51 @48: MO has a "sore loser" law, so any 3rd party challenger would have to be someone who *wasn't* in the primaries. Plus AFAIK the deadline for 3rd parties to enter has passed so it would need to be write-in.

52 He should set a high fundraising goal and see if the donks are willing to shell out 10 million to keep him in the race. 5 dimensional chess and all that. Then he can drop out.

53 Does Akin have any skills or businesses that will guarantee him employment if he quits the race? Or is winning his family's retirement plan?

54 Fuck, he's already raised 30 thousand.

We've been busy.

55 remember your alinsky for conservatives, push through the negative because you know the left is going to overplay its hand by giving us a 3day "no rape is legitimate, Mr. Romney" screech fest in which the ugliest side of the code pink lefty tendencies will be on display.

56 My campaign is about principles! God, Guns, and DNC money!

57 48 why wouldn't Palin's idea of a third party challenge by Sarah Steelman work? especially if money revoked from Akin goes to her. Stranger things have happened...as we saw in Alaska with Murky-cow-ski

Posted by: kawfytawk at August 22, 2012 04:46 PM (VIm97

 

Because Missouri isn't Alaska.  Steelman cannot run.  The state of Missouri has a sore loser law.  Any third party attempt will have to be by someone that did not run in the primary.

58 why wouldn't Palin's idea of a third party challenge by Sarah Steelman work? They have a Sore/Loserman law.

59

"You know, that might be a good protest, although this doofus might take it as The Widow's Mite and be encouraged."

 

Nothing says "Grassroots Support" like these 10,000 "small" donations my campaign finance director just told me about!

 

Hey, why'd the lights just go out?  Must be some utlities work going  on or something...

60 @54 I didn't think it had passed yet

61 The WaEx quotes the WaPo, which is no friend of any Republican.  They didn't "fund" his campaign even if what the WaPo says is true.  They made slick ads that talked about how "conservative" he was.


Still, I view his election in a 3 way race with no run-off to be more of a problem with MO law than I do how the Dems "put" him in the race.

62 I too find it hard to believe that McCrapskill spent over a million dollars on Akin's campaign. I've never heard of such a thing. I know super pacs run misleading ads to confuse the voters, but this, this sounds too crazy.

63 No, I don't think we are screwed exactly.

First, he hasn't really got a lot of donations yet. And this is the time to do it.

Second, would you send money to a Dem version of him?  Now remember, your name shows up in an fec.gov database.  Maybe ordinary libs will give him his $5 donation, but he isn't getting any substantial money from anybody who wants to be identified.  No Dem who could give money to Obama is going to give money to him.

This guy is a real piece of work (bless his heart) and I understand that his staff has been 100% family members since January.  So the question is: Is he just grifting off of donors?  This sounds very televangelical, doesn't it?

If he ever had any friends, I can't imagine who they are. Apparently his son has some political ambitions.  How's that going to work out?

There's already substantial write-in talk, but I think they're still hoping that he'll come to his senses.

64 crap if only they had that sore loser law in AK

65 @62 - Yeah, but is he a better dancer than me?

66

I didn't expect a guy that up until sunday night really did believe that you couldn't get pregnant from a rape

I guess if his own side can't be bothered to understand what he said correctly, then he really is toast.

 

67 I can haz one thin silver dime to donatez?

68 65 @54 I didn't think it had passed yet Posted by: kawfytawk at August 22, 2012 04:48 PM (VIm97) __________ I actually looked for the actual text of that law --couldn't find it. Just lots of second sources on it.

69

"Apparently his son has some political ambitions. How's that going to work out?"

 

Sometimes, we do pretty OK.

70 I heard there was a Sorebutt law in San Fran, but I could be wrong.

71 Does Akin have any skills or businesses that will guarantee him employment if he quits the race?

He's been in the house since 2000.  He's vested in the congressional retirement plan.  He can retire on 80% of his house pay. 

72 Here's the story with Mccaskill. She funded a big ad buy prior to the primary saying, "Todd Akin: too conservative for Missouri". Then said he was endorsed by Bachman and Huckabee, the 2 biggest names he got. Showed some fairly primary friendly stances. So these were technically attack ads. Effectively, they were exactly the opposite for a primary. She meddled heavily and it worked like a dream.

73 Didn't waste much time looking for the actual law--however.

74 Because Missouri isn't Alaska. Steelman cannot run. The state of Missouri has a sore loser law. Any third party attempt will have to be by someone that did not run in the primary.

Posted by: buzzion at August 22, 2012 04:47 PM (GULKT)

MooKow wasn't supposed to be able to do that in AK either, but the crooked courts in AK let her do it despite the law.  AK is just about as crooked as NJ and LA.

75 vic, here is a linko his open secrets page: http://tinyurl.com/9fm2hhn it seems he only has $500,000 plus in his war chest

76 Let's wait until Rasmussen takes fresh polling on this before we determine it's lost. I don't think it is.

77 So these were technically attack ads. Effectively, they were exactly the opposite for a primary. She meddled heavily and it worked like a dream. Posted by: Dave S. at August 22, 2012 04:51 PM (K4AdI) ___________________ It's also not the first time that this has happened. Reid did it in Nevada.

78 And if the next reliable poll shows Akin even or within a point of McCrapskill, what should we do? We have to fund him, that's what. But we'll cross that bridge later.

79

If Akin refuses to budge, the only thing left to do is somehow try to tie him to Claire.  Find an ObfusPAC  willing to run some ads showing how happy Claire is to keep Akin in the race, and imply that she shares a lot of intellectual ground with Toddy.

 

Claire McCaskill.  Todd Akin's biggest supporter.

80 In any case, if they were able to get him in by calling him "too conservative" that doesn't bode so well for the McCaskill scrunt either does it?



And still, even if he loses to McCaskill I do not think it will impact the Romney campaign if he and Ryan keep their witts about them in answering gotcha questions from the MFM (which they would have done anyway).

81

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 22, 2012 04:51 PM (WnzOT)

 

Good to know. Thanks.

82 This is what is SO wrong with ALL politicians up in that god forsaken hole we call DC....it is NEVER about the people it is only about power

83 Todd Akin: too conservative for Missouri". Then said he was endorsed by Bachman and Huckabee, In other words, she ran the same ads in the primary against Akin as she will in the general against Akin. I don't see this is some genius master stroke on the Democrats part.

84 Serving 5 years is all it takes to vest in the congressional retirement plan.  A one term senator or 3 term rep get it.

85 If the party gets to decide, I'm putting heavy odds on it being Ann Wagner. They love her and she's taking Akin's seat with an eye towards grooming for statewide office.

86 We have to fund him, that's what. But we'll cross that bridge later.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 22, 2012 04:53 PM (G/zuv)

 

You go ahead and fund the guy that until 3 days ago believed any woman that got pregnant from a rape wasn't really raped.  I'll be standing over on the other side of that line.

87 And the fact that Sarah Steelman is not exactly loved by the GOP establishment in Missouri would also hinder her effort. Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President foir Life at August 22, 2012 04:53 PM (OWjjx) ________________ And the fact that Brunner finished second beating Steelman.

88 Third Party Write -in time. The man is clearly a stalking horse for McCaskill; and if he isn't, he acts like he is, which is essentially the same thing. He's a stalking horse in real terms or he's a stalking horse in practical terms. Either way: stalking horse. He is the dem picked nominee to be a stalking horse. He's been rejected by RINOs and Tea partiers alike. His base is the dems who set him up to be their stalking horse. Did I mention Akin is a stalking horse? Not to be confused with Mr. Ed, who was a talking horse, Akin is a stalking horse.

89 *ripping up the carpet and fashioning it into luggage as quickly as possible*

90 And still, even if he loses to McCaskill I do not think it will impact the Romney campaign if he and Ryan keep their witts about them in answering gotcha questions from the MFM (which they would have done anyway).

Posted by: Vic at August 22, 2012 04:54 PM (YdQQY)

 

Well the thing is there is an opportunity to almost certainly guarrantee that we don't lose this seat to McCaskill.  And we can severely limit any potential damage this imbecile will do to other races.  He can step down and we can get a candidate that has almost as good a shot at winning.

 

So if we don't have to take the gamble on him, why should we?  This guy is not Allen West.  He is not Scott Brown. 

91

He can retire on 80% of his house pay.

Here's a bigger scandal.  Unfortunately, it works better with our voters than theirs.

 

92 Instead of casting a pall over the GOP convention, stepping on the GOP message, and empowering liberals with their War on Women...I think we need to hit back hard - just as Romney has done on Medicare.

Use part of the convention to hit Democrats on abortion - for their opposition to the bans on partial ban abortion, for Obama's vote as a IL senator against a Born-Alive Infants Protection Act. Without naming Akin or directly referring to his situation, make the point that extremism is rejected by the GOP but embraced by Democrats. Name the Democrats who are extreme (eg Boxer) on abortion, call them leaders of the Dems. We should put women front and center and put Democrats on the defensive.

I completely agree the focus has to be on the economy and I think the shift in the GOP toward economic issues is the way to go long-term. But that is not enough. The GOP way is typically to ignore Democrat hysteria and hate-mongering but we see where that's gotten us with blacks, hispanics, and women.

93 Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President foir Life at August 22, 2012 04:57 PM (OWjjx) I dunno if she would get the college kids...most I talk to are worried about jobs after they graduate. They either wont vote or will vote for change in the form of R/R.

94 He's going to have to make a lot of calls because the call centers and the people to man them are gone.

Decide on a candidate for write in and send Palin love live there for the next 70 whatever days and hit every corner of the State to talk about the write in candidate.

95 15 Personally I think we are placing far to much weight on stupid Akin. He may in fact lose his campaign, but I don't think it is going to have much impact on the national scene. Posted by: Vic at August 22, 2012 04:40 PM (YdQQY) Yeah it's not like the Dems are going to make their conventions theme about the Republican War on Women, it's not like the MSM will focus on the him and not the economy, it's not like middle of the road voters now think all lifers think this way. He fucked us good.

96  Does Akin have any skills or businesses that will guarantee him employment if he quits the race? Or is winning his family's retirement plan?

Posted by: Stateless_Infidel at August 22, 2012 04:47 PM

He's 65.  He has an engineering degree from a good school, plus an MBA, so he had a pretty good career before politics.  Now he'll have a full congressional pension plus maybe a smaller pension from his time in the state legislature.  This is about the crazy, not the money. 

97 It would be better for the party, conservatism and Missouri to run a write-in candidacy with whoever it is running as "The REAL Republican".

If Akin pulls out, then they can just insert her (I think a her is preferable) into his spot after paying the ballot reprinting fees.  If he does not, even a loss would be overall beneficial and the sacrificial lamb should be able to be compensated, especially by a President Romney.

I think it's time to put this in motion.  And that does mean Brunner and Steelman are out of consideration.

98 buzzion, you've twice completely misstated what he actually said.  Are you a Moby, or who's the imbecile?

99 My point isn't that he should not have been elected, or that he isn't stupid, and that he shouldn't step down.


My point is that this is not the end of the damn 2012 election because of his retarded comment.  We are spending far too much damn time agonizing over this idiot.

100 Everyone seems to think getting the Democrat dominated MO court to approve Akin dropping out is pro-forma, I think we're just wasting time at this point. Dems cheat, and there are a majority of Democrats on the court. I watched the Torrecelli hearing, where the judges used their robes to polish up the silver platter they used to hand the Dem's their Lautenberg ruling. The law in NJ was crystal clear, and the Dem judges didn't give a tinker's damn. If the Dem MO Secretary of State files a motion to oppose this -- and OF COURSE the Dems will make sure it gets filed -- the judges will tell Akin he can't get off the ballot. Period. Only GOP judges are persuadable, Dem judges vote a straight party line, as Judge Roberts taught us this a couple months ago.

It's time to move on from Akin and donate to some other mighty fine GOP campaign. Just gave to Mack in FL, (I care about space exploration and NASA so I hate hate hate Nelson) but CAC has a great list of other races. At this point MO is just a distraction --

101 "Dear Todd Akin, Your/YourÂ’re a Moron" Gawker had this up all day yesterday. With a donation click right there at the top of the page... http://tinyurl.com/8zqwd62 and here is the petition online: http://tinyurl.com/9mpgwt4 I found it fascinating that gawker left up the page. I think a lot of people secretly admire him for sticking to his guns and who he is....he's a right to live guy and he's unabashedly so...you gotta respect that at a time when so many are so busy parsing their words up the wazoo and trying to be all things to all people.. One of the reasons people love paul ryan is that he is who he is, consistently, all the time...whether he's talking to a homeless person or a king...

102 Yeah it's not like the Dems are going to make their conventions theme about the Republican War on Women, it's not like the MSM will focus on the him and not the economy, it's not like middle of the road voters now think all lifers think this way.
He fucked us good.

Posted by: Avi at August 22, 2012 05:04 PM (Gx3Fe)

They were already planning on doing that and had already set it in motion. They can't run on Obama's record can they?

103 Sadly I don't think it's only Dems who will be sending money his way. There are a lot of social-cons who are basically single-issue voters and they love Akin.

104 "They were already planning on doing that and had already set it in motion."

Yeah and Akin strapped rocket boosters to the plan and blasted it into orbit. Why are you defending him?

105 It really truly is in the hands of God.

106 All rape is legitimate.   Ain't that right you haters?   We woman folk NEVER lie about that!

107 Why are you defending him?

Posted by: Jason at August 22, 2012 05:08 PM (6VB4r)

Can you fucking read.  Where have I defended the stupid SOB?

108 Akin claims "Dancing" abuse": http://is.gd/kOAEm2

109 15 Personally I think we are placing far to much weight on stupid Akin. He may in fact lose his campaign, but I don't think it is going to have much impact on the national scene. Posted by: Vic at August 22, 2012 04:40 PM (YdQQY) Many single issue types are otherwise reasonably normal people who realize that this scumbag has hurt their cause for many years. All the good will they have done has been hurt. However the crazies who can't think beyond pro life über alles will support him until he announces its time for mass suicide.

110 In situations like this I always used to say "no person no problem", but that's just me.

111 time to kill this stupid thread. I am tired of hearing about shithead Akin and how the world is coming to an end.

112 110 buzzion, you've twice completely misstated what he actually said. Are you a Moby, or who's the imbecile?

Posted by: Ralph L at August 22, 2012 05:05 PM (zo24H)

 

Yeah you can go screw yourself there buddy.  When he goes on Hannity yesterday and talks about learning that since Sunday night yes it is possible to get pregnant from a rape, then he has just admitted to having the belief until August 19th 2012 that if you got pregnant then you weren't really raped.

 

And the reason I keep pointing it out is because it needs to be pointed out, because there are a bunch of idiots here who seem to think that it is his pro-life in all instances including rape and incest is why so many want him off the ballot. 

113 "why wouldn't Palin's idea of a third party challenge by Sarah Steelman work? "

Missouri has a "sore loser" law. Neither Steelman or Brunner can take Akin's place. It will have to be someone else, presuming he ever gets it through his thick head that he's likely to be the most hated man of his party for the rest of his life.

114 Just as the last conservative pundit prepares to smackdown  The Todd, he will.......................play THE CHEROKEE CARD(it is quite obvious that he has Sqaunto Warren's high cheekbone defense). 

115 It looks like the Valium and Imodium wore off and the HQ is back to shitting itself in fear.

Funny that Instapundit isn't going ape over this and he's a practising atheist who's pro-abortion. I guess he's a libertarian with balls.

See you all in a couple of days once the HQ's prescriptions have been renewed.

116 @ Posted by: andycanuck at August 22, 2012 05:31 PM (vDl/w)

There's a river in Egypt.

117 No. Looking at this rationally and developing a fight back strategy is what you should be doing not giving the fuck up. And about 16 posts in 2.5 days all but one of which was about surrendering isn't fighting back. See you later once the smoke clears.

118 Dude, chill.

1: Any money Democrats send him, won't be going any place else.
2: Akin can look up the people donating to him, and see if they normally give to Dems.
3: A Republican mole can do the same.  And pass that info on to other Republicans, who then sit down w/ him and point out that he's the favorite candidate of those people who hate the Republican party.
4: The Akin campaign has to report who its donors are.  This will be really fun for data-mining.  Democrat X bashes Republican Y, because Akin's a Republican.  Republican Y says "these donors of yours also gave money to Akin.  How do you feel about having some of your biggest donors be Akin supporters."  I'll let the more ad astute carry on from there.

5: How many Democrats do you think will show up to be Akin volunteers?  How many will take and display yard signs?  When he goes to church on Sunday, how many people are going to come up to him and tell him to get out of the race for the good of the country?

He may decide to be an asshole, and stay in.  But he's going to have to do it on his own.  PPP kept him in yesterday.  How do you think the Rasmussen poll is going to come out?

119 Where's our Trumpka and SEIU when you need them?

120 Hey, I've got a sperm donation for Mr. Akin.

121 I guess if liberals donate to him, at least that's money not going to other liberals. 

122 Posted by: andycanuck at August 22, 2012 05:40 PM (vDl/w)

We both know you're not going anywhere.

Akin's statement is indefensible. The problem is those who believe it is, that we can fight back. Sometimes you have to sever the rotten limb. Obviously we were hoping for the quick and clean sever.

NOBODY is talking about giving up - except for Akin's seat if he is so prideful as to not let go. My advice is to go on the offense on the abortion issue, highlighting their extremism, as Ace has done in his more recent post. You really don't get what a serious error Akin committed. We don't fight for losers. That would be the pathetic and desperate route.

123 134 I guess if liberals donate to him, at least that's money not going to other liberals.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 22, 2012 05:50 PM (i0App)

 

I think Claire McCaskill is going to have to claim any donations to him as a donation to her.  Or at least she should make the Akin campaign register as a PAC in support of her reelection.

124

So why is it a good thing that Todd Akin stays in the fight, even if I don't agree with him on the abortion issue, and even if he loses in a landslide and goes down in flames?

1. Because it stops conceding the media narrative. We have got to stop dancing to the lamestream Dem-media drumbeat where theirs get away with murder and ours get crucified for gaffes. If Todd Akin makes his apologies, stays in the race, and most importantly gets back on track hammering away at Claire McCaskill's domestic economic and foreign policy disaster votes, he will have done something to dispell the all too familiar drill of the Republicans always groveling before the Liberal Media Narrative.

2. Because we don't have a clear alternative candidate waiting in the wings this late in the race. OK, so you want Todd Akin out. Who are we going to put in the slot, this late in the race? Remember how well the Jack Ryan / Alan Keyes fiasco vs. then Senator Barack Obama played out? Sometimes, it's so late in the game, that you just have to stick with who you have.

3. Because the Democrats will only come up with another gaffe and another smear anyway. What 11th hour "gotcha" will the Demunists play with whoever we try to put in the Senate campaign to replace Todd Akin? Because they will, no matter how contrived. And no matter how contrived, the media will cover for the Dems and give them a veneer of credibility.

4. Because the real issue is what a disaster a liberal Senator like Claire McCaskill has been. Why not just say "Sure, Todd Akin misspoke, and badly at that, but Claire McCaskill is still a wretched Obama stooge who must be replaced!" and get the real economic and security issues back on track. 

5. Because this whole issue is a sideshow. Why do we lend credibility to sideshows? Because no matter how badly Todd Akin misspoke--and his gaffe was a major flop--that issue is *still* a sideshow. You know it, and more importantly, the liberals know it, too.

6. Because at this point, switching candidates is just betraying weakness. Just hammer home what a bolshevik liberal McCaskill is and MOVE ON. 

7. Because Gaffes only matter when you *let* them matter. Remember the George Allen "Macaque" moment? What a phony "racial issue" that was!!!

8. Finally, in fairness, there is a legal distinction between forcible rape (yes, "legitimate" is a poor choice of words) and "statutory" rape, which is consensual sex with a minor. Yes, Akin still botched it, but all the lawyers out there ought to know what a cheap shot so much of this really is.

125 Well shit, that didn't format well.

126 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

127

OK, so you want Todd Akin out. Who are we going to put in the slot, this late in the race?

 

One of the 2 other candidates from the primary that actually had an even bigger lead over McCaskill than this idiot that thought a woman's vagina had a rape sperm goalie blocking the shots.

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Todd Akin didnÂ’t rape Juanita Broderick. He didnÂ’t drown Mary Jo Kopechne in his car. He didnÂ’t engage in shady land deals, hang out with domestic and foreign terrorists and anti-semites, or stuff money in his freezer. He expressed a very dubious claim about the frequency of pregnancy after rape. Very stupid of him, and playing into the Commiecrat hand, but let's keep the gaffe in perspective.

Meanwhile Claire McCaskill is still an Obamunist stooge. Let's focus on *that* in MO.

 

129

OK, so you want Todd Akin out. Who are we going to put in the slot, this late in the race?

One of the 2 other candidates from the primary that actually had an even bigger lead over McCaskill than this idiot that thought a woman's vagina had a rape sperm goalie blocking the shots.

Missouri has a "sore loser" law. Neither Steelman or Brunner can take Akin's place. It will have to be someone else.

 

Again, if there is someone who can step in at the 11th hour and win, more power to them. But I am sure the Commiecrats will have a last minute smear cooked up for him or her too.

 

We have *got* to stop reacting to the liberal media and throwing our own under the bus. So many on our side are climbing over each other almost instantly to declare a man with a 12-year history of reliable conservative service in the House unfit as a candidate, based upon an admittedly stupid remark. As if the libmedia will like us any more if we do?

 

130 Well shit again, what is with my text editor?

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Posted by: buzzion at August 22, 2012 06:00 PM (GULKT)

The other two candidates are not eligible to run. There's been talk about shifting Ann Wagner over (who's running for Akin's House seat).

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Missouri has a "sore loser" law. Neither Steelman or Brunner can take Akin's place. It will have to be someone else.

 

I don't think the sore loser law applies to the candidate dropping out and then the state GOP replacing the guy.  I think it only applies to them attempting to run as a third party candidate.

So many on our side are climbing over each other almost instantly to declare a man with a 12-year history of reliable conservative service in the House unfit as a candidate, based upon an admittedlystupid remark

 

And his remark went from stupid to evil after Hannity yesterday.  See before he went on Hannity you could argue that he was trying to make a valid point and was just busy shoving his entire leg in his mouth while doing it.  I still think that was a gaffe so bad that for the good of the country he should have stepped down.  But then I'm not a democrat who will ignore idiocy of people on my side.  The thing is on Hannity yesterday Akin went and talked about how over the past 2 days he's learned how you actually can get pregnant from rape.   So it went from saying this is bad because what he said is easily twisted into belief that if you got pregant then you weren't raped, to him admitting that until 2 days ago he really did believe that if you got pregnant you weren't raped.

 

As if the libmedia will like us any more if we do?

 

Do you think Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Anne Coulter,  Reince Priebus, and Mitt Romney are interested in the lib media liking them more?

133 The other two candidates are not eligible to run. There's been talk about shifting Ann Wagner over (who's running for Akin's House seat).

Posted by: Crispian at August 22, 2012 06:15 PM (uBMtY)

 

Does that apply to this idiot voluntarily stepping down, and the Republican party selecting them as their replacement?

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<i>My advice is to go on the offense on the abortion issue, highlighting their extremism, as Ace has done in his more recent post. You really don't get what a serious error Akin committed. We don't fight for losers. That would be the pathetic and desperate route.</i><br>

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Sorry, but going on the offense, as you describe it, *is* fighting for a "loser", as you call it. <br>

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And frankly, if anything is losing, it is caving into and cowering in the face of the Liberal Media Narrative. Remember the sanctimonious pundits who rushed to judgement on George Zimmerman? And these people claim to be on our side???

135 Curmudgeon your text editor may be funky, but what yer speaking is coming thru loud and clear!!!!! I'd also refer all to the 2003 study done by Tufts University(Scott Brown's Alma Mater!) and the Greek Gov't(back when they still had some deutschmarks left to spend) on the link between stressors producing a chemical reaction causing miscarriages. It's Scienticianific!! And ask Steve Pagonas, the Duke Lacrosse team and many many others about the nuances between a 'legitimate rape' and an 'ILLegitimate' one.... He misspoke, move on and as the old guy above said.....MOVE ON AND RETAKE THE NARRATIVE!!! Have a nice day.

136 Oh, and the Hannity interview? I am SO GLAD Sean just HAD to have that "get"........could not have left theguy to retrench and get his wits about him.....and maybe some media specialist to assist in his response? Thanks, Sean thanks a LOT......

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Thanks, Annoyed. This is the single biggest and most destructive circular firing squad our side has inflicted on itself in months, nay, Years. All for fear of what the left will do.

 

 

 

138 150 Thanks, Annoyed. This is the single biggest and most destructive circular firing squad our side has inflicted on itself in months, nay, Years. All for fear of what the left will do.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 22, 2012 06:36 PM (ujg0T)

 

I don't fear what the left will do.  I am just very very uninterested in behaving like the left, and pretending a candidate didn't say something that he did.  I am also uninterested in behaving like Whoopi Goldberg and playing semantic games with rape on the national stage.  And its not much of a circular firing squad when just about everyone is pointing at one guy.

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Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 22, 2012 06:19 PM (ujg0T)

You could not be more wrong.

Attacking democrats for being extreme on abortion "*is* fighting for a loser"???

And do you similarly think going on the offense on Medicare is fighting for a loser?

I'm going to assume you didn't understand my post, as that is far more charitable than any other conclusion.

140 Don't tell my heart, my Akin rapin' heart.

141 "I don't think the sore loser law applies to the candidate dropping out and then the state GOP replacing the guy." They are prohibited from running for the same office: If a candidate runs in a primary election and loses, can the person run in the general election for the same office? No. If a candidate files for nomination to an office and is not nominated at a primary election, that candidate cannot file a declaration of intent to be a write-in candidate for the same office at the general election. (Section 115.453(4) RSMo)

142 No. If a candidate files for nomination to an office and is not nominated at a primary election, that candidate cannot file a declaration of intent to be a write-in candidate for the same office at the general election. (Section 115.453(4) RSMo)

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 22, 2012 07:25 PM (i330i)

 

But I'm not talking about a write-in candidacy.  I'm talking Akin drops out.  The GOP foots the bill to have the ballots with their newly chosen candidate on it.  Does the sore loser law apply to that?  Third party candidacy, and write-in candidacy are completely separate issues from the scenario of Akin dropping out and a real GOP replacement being put on the ballot.

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Akin is an asshole. He's going to lose anyway - I guess he just wants to go through the motions.

 

He's getting paid by the left, alright. He's a shill.

144 You go ahead and fund the guy that until 3 days ago believed any woman that got pregnant from a rape wasn't really raped. I'll be standing over on the other side of that line. Buzzion THIS.

145 We are screwed?  How does a 90.1% probability of taking the Senate equal screwed?

146 He replied, "It seems to me, first of all, from what I understand from doctors, <b>that's really rare.</b> If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways <b> to try  </b>to shut that whole thing down."

147

Who do you have to sleep with to get bold or italics on this blog?