March 14, 2012
— Ace Knocks Palin for interfering, as she terms it, in the Republican primary, while actually no longer being in politics.
It's pretty tough stuff.
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Posted by: DriveBy at March 14, 2012 02:11 PM (C9Vc8)
How annoying that she criticizes a Republican who actually accomplished things in office.
Ann Coulter is simply a shill for Romney.
Romney probably will be the nominee, and so his fans need to consider how to bring conservatives back into the tent. Bashing Palin is the most asinine tactic imaginable.
Posted by: Dustin at March 14, 2012 02:12 PM (wcT+8)
Posted by: Kensington at March 14, 2012 02:13 PM (/AHDz)
Posted by: mare at March 14, 2012 02:14 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: Jennifer Rubin at March 14, 2012 02:14 PM (/AHDz)
Posted by: madamex at March 14, 2012 02:14 PM (5+Fw+)
Posted by: Todd Palin at March 14, 2012 02:14 PM (DATOZ)
Posted by: Pragmatic at March 14, 2012 02:14 PM (z8Cts)
Posted by: Pragmatic at March 14, 2012 02:15 PM (z8Cts)
Posted by: Ken at March 14, 2012 02:15 PM (7yb9x)
*hic*
Posted by: Peggy Noonan at March 14, 2012 02:15 PM (/AHDz)
Posted by: mare at March 14, 2012 02:15 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: Ann Coulter at March 14, 2012 02:15 PM (A2+pr)
Remember when Ann spent months pretending that she was going to run for President, complete with pseudo-campaign bus tour and frequent appearances in early voting states that legitimate candidates were campaigning in?
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 14, 2012 02:17 PM (SY2Kh)
But it does read like Coulter is marking her territory. "You can't be a female right-winger and sell books! Only I get to do that!"
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at March 14, 2012 02:17 PM (QTHTd)
So she called Palin a charlatan. I wish I had a buck for every time Santorum went on local radio calling COD a "gadfly". Oh yeah and what did he say to get Sarah so miffed that she called him a knuckle-dragging neanderthal?
Everybody calls somebody something.
And the wheels on the bus go round and round...
Posted by: kallisto at March 14, 2012 02:17 PM (jm/9g)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at March 14, 2012 02:17 PM (m8NEN)
Posted by: Minuteman (aka trainer) until Juggy is Gone at March 14, 2012 02:18 PM (DGxyd)
Ann Coulter six months later- Romney is the most conservative conservative that ever lived!
I can get saying, "of all the choices we have Mitt is the best" but she's now praising everything about Romney that she said would lead to his defeat and pissing on people who agree with her original position.
She's an idiot.
Posted by: DrewM. at March 14, 2012 02:18 PM (WnQJ3)
She appears to be squandering her opportunity here. I was expecting her to remain rather low profile until a candidate is nominated. Coming out for Gingrich, literally a "third rate" candidate, is going to somewhat diminish her influence once Newt drops out or is tossed out of contention.
"Voting your conscience" is generally not a very smart thing to do. Good strategy is often counter-intuitive. A general who allows himself to be driven by emotions ends up losing a war. The goal here is (or should be) to defeat Obama. It has apparently turned in to a goal of defeating Romney for many, and that strategy could easily cost the Republicans the White House.
Posted by: crosspatch at March 14, 2012 02:18 PM (ZbLJZ)
Posted by: Mr Pink at March 14, 2012 02:18 PM (qblrZ)
Posted by: real joe at March 14, 2012 02:18 PM (Fv1d1)
Ann Coulter has jumped the fucking shark.
Mr Pink, or more along the lines of the ancient Greek saying that those whom gods wish to destroy they first make mad.
I think Ann has been off the mark for a few years now, she used to have quite a few hits among the misses. Lately just misses and mehs.
Posted by: Decaf at March 14, 2012 02:19 PM (Tsk5H)
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Smart. The ugliness is already arriving. The Space Traders thread will probably be fun, at least.
Posted by: Kensington at March 14, 2012 02:19 PM (/AHDz)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at March 14, 2012 02:19 PM (azHfB)
Posted by: mare at March 14, 2012 02:19 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at March 14, 2012 02:20 PM (azHfB)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at March 14, 2012 02:20 PM (QKKT0)
Thanks Ann, I feel better now.
Posted by: © Sponge at March 14, 2012 02:20 PM (UK9cE)
Perry/West for me!
DUMP MITT NOW! He should take Ann/Andy with him!
Both Ann and Mitt are democrats . . . .yuck and ick!
Posted by: Pragmatic at March 14, 2012 02:20 PM (z8Cts)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at March 14, 2012 02:21 PM (m8NEN)
Posted by: Vic at March 14, 2012 02:21 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at March 14, 2012 02:21 PM (DGIjM)
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 14, 2012 02:21 PM (L7hol)
Palin didn't endorse Gingrich, she endorsed having a competitive primary.
Posted by: davidt at March 14, 2012 02:22 PM (axc/z)
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Her last book, Demonic, was top-notch. It's flabbergasting to see her paint this brilliant picture of the Left's mob tactics and then spend the last year screeching that it's the Tea Party that's a mob.
Posted by: Kensington at March 14, 2012 02:22 PM (/AHDz)
Posted by: real joe at March 14, 2012 02:22 PM (Fv1d1)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at March 14, 2012 02:22 PM (+lsX1)
Posted by: mare at March 14, 2012 02:23 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: Mr Pink at March 14, 2012 06:11 PM (qblrZ)
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What a damn shame. I used to like her. I know I may get ripped for this but I'm really glad the primary season has gone on as long as it has. For the simple fact that so many of the people who we thought were conservative are now getting frustrated and showing their true colors.
Posted by: Soona at March 14, 2012 02:23 PM (iJWgL)
Posted by: 29Victor at March 14, 2012 02:23 PM (ES9R7)
Posted by: joeindc44 says come on, guys, no tough questions at March 14, 2012 02:24 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: joeindc44 says come on, guys, no tough questions at March 14, 2012 02:24 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: nerdygirl at March 14, 2012 02:24 PM (TrPe5)
I mean, she has a decent point about Palin offering herself up as a brokered convention candidate. But the attack on politicos becoming pundits is dumb--"the Democrats don't do it."
Really? That's the argument?
Being one of Romney's hatchet women hasn't done wonders for her powers of persuasion.
Posted by: Steve the Pirate at March 14, 2012 02:25 PM (W54Uh)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 14, 2012 02:25 PM (d0Tfm)
Is there enough evidence to suggest that Ann Coulter is doing a nosnhoJ selrahC?
I can understand looling out for the political party, and I can understand Sarah-Palin-Envy, but Coulter seems to be out in the political weeds.
Posted by: Arbalest at March 14, 2012 02:25 PM (UdD5G)
I.AM.COMPLETELY.DONE.WITH.THE.REPUBLICAN.PARTY
If Mitt Romney is the nominee, it's all over but the shouting . . . .exile for me.
Posted by: Pragmatic at March 14, 2012 02:25 PM (z8Cts)
Ace, where are your loyal toadies?
Only Hollowhead showed up and these comments are running 20:1 pro-Palin.
Posted by: njinfl at March 14, 2012 02:26 PM (SKSDk)
Ann is jealous of Sarah's hot husband and her nice pack of kids. None of which Ann has been able to accomplish.
No, I don't think that's it, if she had wanted a family she could have got one. As people already pointed out, this is professional. Palin is being asked her opinion about the race more often than Ann.
Posted by: Decaf at March 14, 2012 02:26 PM (Tsk5H)
Posted by: Mark Morland at March 14, 2012 02:26 PM (+oHpg)
CAT FIGHT!
Actually, I don't think Sarah would stoop to Coulter's level. But I'm sure she'll get a zinger in somehow.
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at March 14, 2012 02:26 PM (7+pP9)
Posted by: mare at March 14, 2012 02:27 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: davidt at March 14, 2012 02:27 PM (axc/z)
Posted by: nevergiveup at March 14, 2012 02:27 PM (eCnLg)
Posted by: ace at March 14, 2012 02:28 PM (nj1bB)
A slow rot eating away all integrity, honesty, consistency, humor and intelligence.
Posted by: jimmuy at March 14, 2012 02:28 PM (s8Y3R)
Posted by: dr kill at March 14, 2012 02:28 PM (0TdUk)
Gee, what a surprise. It's almost as if she makes her money by giving speeches, appearing on TV, and selling books.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 14, 2012 02:28 PM (nEUpB)
My, what a coincidence.....
Posted by: Sarah Palin at March 14, 2012 02:28 PM (gCa4h)
Posted by: Damiano at March 14, 2012 02:28 PM (A2+pr)
Posted by: mare at March 14, 2012 02:29 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: ace at March 14, 2012 02:29 PM (nj1bB)
Bullshit. Agree with her or not, she clearly endorsed a candidate and made her case as to why she thought he'd be the best choice among those remaining.
Did Coulter spend months running a "maybe I'll run, I haven't decided yet" con game for the purpose of seeing her name in the news and scamming supporters out of donation money? No.
Palin skirts around with state-by-state pseudo-endorsements, repeatedly stating that she wants the nominating process to go on as long as possible, preferably to the convention.
Why? Because she knows that her name would be (and is) talked about when the possibility of a brokered convention comes up. Sarah Palin loves herself some bullshit drama and attention, even if it comes at the expense of hurting our chances of beating Obama. There's not the slightest possibility she'd be picked as nominee, but as long as the name "Sarah Palin" gets enough mention, that's all that matters.
The first, last, and every thought Palin has on any given day is "What would benefit me and my 'brand' the most?"
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 14, 2012 02:30 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: soulpile at March 14, 2012 02:30 PM (Mk/IQ)
Posted by: nevergiveup at March 14, 2012 02:30 PM (eCnLg)
Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at March 14, 2012 02:30 PM (uUtvO)
Posted by: the hobbit fomerly known as Donna at March 14, 2012 02:30 PM (ZHge+)
>>>Knocks Palin for interfering, as she terms it, in the Republican primary, while actually no longer being in politics.
It's pretty tough stuff
The same Ann Coulter that has been all but publicly fellating Romney on just about any talk show she can get on from her cush position as private citizen and best selling author?
So a pot and kettle mudwrestling catfight then? Let me go get some popcorn. I haven't seen two attention whores battle to the death for attention before.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose finally remembers why he's here at March 14, 2012 02:31 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: RJ at March 14, 2012 02:32 PM (cHvqf)
Posted by: Cicero at March 14, 2012 02:32 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 14, 2012 02:32 PM (lVGED)
Posted by: ace at March 14, 2012 02:32 PM (nj1bB)
Yes, because in this case Palin deserves the support. Many people around here tend not to react reflexively...unlike you.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 14, 2012 02:32 PM (nEUpB)
Posted by: mare at March 14, 2012 02:33 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: speedster1 at March 14, 2012 02:33 PM (yeM7r)
You could interpret it that way.
I didn't.
I interpreted it as she is willing to go their and aggregate power and act like a queen maker in the hopes of maintaining political relevance, and likely make a support speech for the eventual nominee.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose finally remembers why he's here at March 14, 2012 02:33 PM (0q2P7)
If Mitt Romney is the nominee, it's all over but the shouting . . . .exile for me.
Adios. I have enough children to deal with.
For the simple fact that so many of the people who we thought were conservative are now getting frustrated and showing their true colors.
Or maybe they just disagree with you. RINO.
Posted by: pep at March 14, 2012 02:33 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: nevergiveup at March 14, 2012 02:33 PM (eCnLg)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at March 14, 2012 02:34 PM (1zwZo)
Posted by: ace at March 14, 2012 02:34 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at giants vs Indians game at March 14, 2012 02:34 PM (MUxC2)
Posted by: lowandslow at March 14, 2012 02:34 PM (GZitp)
Conservatives often pride themselves on being able to disagree without devolving into hate. That's for liberals, we (used to) say.
If that's still true, I'd suggest maybe we start proving it.
I see a LOT of hate over disagreement. A LOT. And yes, I use that word, hate.
I don't see it in this thread (yet). So far the comments have been mild going by past experiences.
Posted by: Decaf at March 14, 2012 02:34 PM (Tsk5H)
Posted by: mare at March 14, 2012 02:34 PM (A98Xu)
I imagine she has.
Several times.
With a Black & Decker professional grade vibrator.
Posted by: John P. Squibob at March 14, 2012 02:35 PM (kqqGm)
Obviously she does, or she'd keep her trap shut over controversial issues.
But like Ace pointed out she hasn't "hinted" she might be President..
Posted by: the hobbit fomerly known as Donna at March 14, 2012 02:35 PM (ZHge+)
Posted by: RoadRunner at March 14, 2012 02:35 PM (uIyvJ)
Posted by: Village Idiot at March 14, 2012 02:35 PM (utXSy)
Posted by: mare at March 14, 2012 02:35 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: ace at March 14, 2012 02:35 PM (nj1bB)
i guess it's the same thought we see in here from the beginning she changed her mind with "he is electable"
he is only electable ,however,if we vote for him.
which i will, if i have to. no bandwagon though.
Posted by: willow at March 14, 2012 02:36 PM (TomZ9)
Posted by: buzzion at March 14, 2012 02:36 PM (GULKT)
Errrr, Maryanne was far hotter than Ginger. RINO.
Posted by: pep at March 14, 2012 02:36 PM (6TB1Z)
I wonder what Malkin's up to. Probably laughing at Coulter's hissing and spraying.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at March 14, 2012 02:37 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at giants vs Indians game at March 14, 2012 02:37 PM (MUxC2)
Posted by: ace at March 14, 2012 02:37 PM (nj1bB)
Coulter's entire support is built upon a cult of personality. Now, where's this bridge you speak of?
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 14, 2012 02:37 PM (lVGED)
Bill.Maher.
Posted by: Fritz at March 14, 2012 02:38 PM (FDEjy)
Posted by: nevergiveup at March 14, 2012 02:38 PM (eCnLg)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at March 14, 2012 02:38 PM (1zwZo)
Posted by: mare at March 14, 2012 02:38 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: willow at March 14, 2012 02:39 PM (TomZ9)
Could we please not generate a political food fight among conservatives, Ann? Keep your eye on the goddamned ball: getting SCOAMF out on his funky butt.
Sheesh.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 14, 2012 02:39 PM (3IrHc)
Who can keep up with the current Enemies List/Above Reproach List.
Right you are... We gotta stop eating our own...
Posted by: the hobbit fomerly known as Donna at March 14, 2012 02:39 PM (ZHge+)
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 14, 2012 02:39 PM (lVGED)
I still like Ann, but she's wrong on that point. Al Sharpton anyone? Elliot Spitzer? Ted Kennedy?
Who can keep up with the current Enemies List/Above Reproach List.
Me.
Posted by: That guy who keeps the RINO list at March 14, 2012 02:40 PM (6TB1Z)
If that's still true, I'd suggest maybe we start proving it.
I see a LOT of hate over disagreement. A LOT. And yes, I use that word, hate.
Yeah yeah yeah. Guilty, reformed etc..
Cut us some slack. The death of the Republic is an emotional event. Makes people uncharacteristically irrational and confrontational. Overall though, I thought we were handling it relatively well. About as good as anyone can expect for looking at the prospect of loosing the best thing that ever happened to mankind.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose finally remembers why he's here at March 14, 2012 02:40 PM (0q2P7)
that's true, but she's not hinting she might be president.
Ace, I remember the Reagan nomination and election campaign and that is exactly how he was characterised - as a clown and alternatively the straight man to Bonzo the monkey.
Posted by: Decaf at March 14, 2012 02:40 PM (Tsk5H)
Let the women talk. Don't listen. Have some wine or other preferred adult beverage. The subject is of no import. I'll check you morons on the ONT after I give tonight's bass lesson and kick some ass at my County Planning Commission meeting.
Cheers.
Posted by: Meremortal at March 14, 2012 02:40 PM (Usk3+)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at giants vs Indians game at March 14, 2012 06:37 PM (MUxC2)
...a great idea, phoenixgirl!
Posted by: Max Wedge at March 14, 2012 02:40 PM (GsBJY)
Posted by: mallfly at March 14, 2012 02:40 PM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at March 14, 2012 02:41 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: ace at March 14, 2012 06:32 PM (nj1bB)
True. Just two or three years ago if you even suggested that Ann sometimes goes a bit too far, you'd be branded a counterrevolutionary^H^H^H RINO.
Now it turns out that Ann was an unconservative RINO all along. Who knew?
Posted by: Mætenloch at March 14, 2012 02:41 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: That guy who keeps the RINO list at March 14, 2012 02:41 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: Korla Pundit at March 14, 2012 02:41 PM (FHlAi)
Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at March 14, 2012 02:41 PM (DGIjM)
Posted by: ace at March 14, 2012 02:41 PM (nj1bB)
Works for me.
In fact, forget the dockside part. I'm going to start drinking right now.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 14, 2012 02:41 PM (nEUpB)
Posted by: wooga at March 14, 2012 02:42 PM (vjyZP)
Posted by: dr kill at March 14, 2012 02:42 PM (0TdUk)
Posted by: lowandslow at March 14, 2012 02:42 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: nevergiveup at March 14, 2012 02:42 PM (eCnLg)
Isn't that a two-way street? She's bold and provocative (but right) when criticizing those you criticize. 'You' can be either the TrueConChorus or the Bold Independent Voice, depending on the targets of her haterade.
Posted by: Knemon at March 14, 2012 02:42 PM (j1ZaB)
Posted by: mare at March 14, 2012 02:43 PM (A98Xu)
Four years ago I criticized Coulter for calling Edwards a faggot at CPAC, a pointless joke uttered just to sell controversy and sizzle.
I got ripped for attacking someone on "My Team."
When was Edwards "My Team" for any of us here?
Posted by: Decaf at March 14, 2012 02:43 PM (Tsk5H)
Is it possible to like Sarah Palin on a personal level, approve of many of her political stances, and still disapprove of some of the things she has done?
Or do I have to choose one rabid camp over the other?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 14, 2012 02:43 PM (nEUpB)
Posted by: Unclefacts Out Of Commenting Retirement Just For This One Thing at March 14, 2012 02:44 PM (6IReR)
Posted by: mare at March 14, 2012 02:44 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: Knemon at March 14, 2012 02:44 PM (j1ZaB)
>Now it turns out that Ann was an unconservative RINO all along. Who knew?
Posted by: Mætenloch
Yeah, it's crazy no one called Ann to the mat when she was attacking liberals but do so when she attacks conservatives.
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 14, 2012 02:44 PM (lVGED)
Posted by: davidt at March 14, 2012 02:45 PM (axc/z)
Posted by: willis at March 14, 2012 02:45 PM (S5VEf)
Wow, you need to fuck directly off.
"Who can keep up with the current Enemies List/Above Reproach List.
Posted by: ace at March 14, 2012 06:37 PM (nj1bB)
Amen
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at March 14, 2012 02:45 PM (sU4tb)
Provocative? Provocation? Parochialism?
Ah...fuck it. I'm going to the lesbo thread.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 14, 2012 02:46 PM (nEUpB)
Provaatism? Google has zero hits on that one. I thought maybe the 2nd 'a' was a typo, but "provatism" only gets 5 hits and the are all Swedish or some such. So, I give up. What the hell does your new word mean? A philosophy or practice based on provoking people?
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 14, 2012 02:46 PM (k34Gz)
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at March 14, 2012 02:47 PM (sU4tb)
Posted by: willow at March 14, 2012 02:47 PM (TomZ9)
Posted by: Bill Mahr at March 14, 2012 02:48 PM (+e0V0)
Incidentally, this is a stupid screed by Coulter. Friendly fire is sometimes necessary, but it should be warning shots across the bow, not deliberate attempts to frag another conservative, disagreements or no.
Posted by: Conservative Crank at March 14, 2012 06:38 PM (1zwZo)
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As I said upthread, we're starting to see the true character of some of these people. I know Palin is conservative, and I thought I knew Coulter was conservative until recently. She's sounding more and more like Karl Rove.
Posted by: Soona at March 14, 2012 02:48 PM (iJWgL)
Posted by: kawfytawk at March 14, 2012 02:48 PM (VIm97)
I'm a guy who may or may not be soft-banned (what's the status on that, btw?) for hating on Ace, and I still agree with fluffy: you're full of it.
(His "loyal toadies" are presumably preparing for the liveblog, though, right?)
Posted by: Knemon at March 14, 2012 02:49 PM (j1ZaB)
Now it turns out that Ann was an unconservative RINO all along. Who knew?
No, not 'all along', as commenters have already noted, gradually over the last few years. As for RINO, I think that's by association with Romney who by the way I don't consider as RINO. He's just a politician with fewer conservative convictions than I would like.
Posted by: Decaf at March 14, 2012 02:49 PM (Tsk5H)
It's not that she is for Romney, it's that she is for herself only.
Keeping access to the shows and the parties is what she is for.
She is no longer conservative, she is just out for success.
10 years ago if you would have said she might end up on the View I would have choked, but now I don't know.
It's possible.
Posted by: kinlaw at March 14, 2012 02:50 PM (1OjQp)
Posted by: Paul Zummo at March 14, 2012 02:50 PM (AcrIN)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at March 14, 2012 02:50 PM (d6QMz)
Posted by: rickl supports SMOD/Supervolcano 2012 at March 14, 2012 02:50 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Soona at March 14, 2012 06:48 PM (iJWgL)
Or maybe - and hear me out on this crazy idea - they're BOTH conservatives who happen to disagree on certain matters. A year ago Ann was a True Conservative - now she's being purged and sent to the cornfields.
Posted by: Mætenloch at March 14, 2012 02:50 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: willow at March 14, 2012 02:51 PM (TomZ9)
Posted by: mare at March 14, 2012 02:51 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: David Frum at March 14, 2012 02:52 PM (/AHDz)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at March 14, 2012 02:52 PM (1zwZo)
Sh'e not being purged, she's being criticized, and deservedly so.
Consrvatism isn't her thing anymore, power is.
Posted by: kinlaw at March 14, 2012 02:53 PM (1OjQp)
Whether Palin's problems are enough to discredit Palin entirely, on that I disagree. But that's a personal decision. It can't be argued for or against. So I don't directly confront people on that, for or against.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at March 14, 2012 02:53 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at March 14, 2012 02:54 PM (IlZPo)
Ann Coulter February 2011- "If we nominate Romney, we lose"
Ann Coulter six months later- Romney is the most conservative conservative that ever lived!
I can get saying, "of all the choices we have Mitt is the best" but she's now praising everything about Romney that she said would lead to his defeat and pissing on people who agree with her original position.
She's an idiot.
This. I don't necessarily agree with the idiot part. But, the rest of it is spot on. I've always liked Coulter, but to completely contradict herself with no explanation of any sort, and then to turn on anyone who brings it up, is just such a disingenuous position that I can't listen to or read her anymore.
Posted by: Big Zesty at March 14, 2012 02:54 PM (66pgZ)
Also, she needs to get laid.....by a man.
Posted by: mare at March 14, 2012 06:14 PM (A98Xu)
Well... if it gets her back on track, I'll take one for the team....
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 14, 2012 02:54 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: And Irresolute at March 14, 2012 02:55 PM (RC3M9)
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Hey, I've got one for you. It's crazy, but just hear me out!
Maybe, just MAYBE, Sarah Palin isn't a charlatan obsessed with her own celebrity. Maybe she was seriously considering running for President throughout last year and after weighing all the pros and cons decided in the end that it was a bad idea.
Crazy, right?
Posted by: Kensington at March 14, 2012 02:55 PM (/AHDz)
Consrvatism isn't her thing anymore, power is.
Posted by: kinlaw at March 14, 2012 06:53 PM (1OjQp)
Well if you read up thread, she's been declared to no longer be a conservative based on her support for Romney and attack on Palin. So this isn't really about policy - it's about personalities and intra-party politics. Declaring her to be a Non-Conservative is a form of purging.
Posted by: Mætenloch at March 14, 2012 02:56 PM (pAlYe)
Problem is, within the last eight months, Palin has made herself into part of the media more than part of the conservative movement. I'm not agreeing with Coulter, because she's got no room to talk, but I do think Palin is just stirring the pot all the time because she likes the attention and not because she has some overwhelming devotion to the conservative movement.
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at March 14, 2012 02:56 PM (sU4tb)
Posted by: mare at March 14, 2012 06:14 PM (A98Xu)
so the cure is gay sex then
Posted by: The Dude at March 14, 2012 02:56 PM (M8yfa)
Posted by: buzzion at March 14, 2012 02:57 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: And Irresolute at March 14, 2012 02:58 PM (RC3M9)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at March 14, 2012 02:58 PM (1zwZo)
Posted by: steevy at March 14, 2012 02:58 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: Mætenloch at March 14, 2012 06:56 PM (pAlYe)
I hrear ya , but claiming Palin is a charlatan?
I don't hate Ann , but i think that was an opinion better left unsaid.
Posted by: willow at March 14, 2012 02:58 PM (TomZ9)
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His "arguments," such as they are, stink. They consist of nothing more than impugning her motivations, as if he knows what goes on her head. His arguments fall apart as nothing more than ugly speculation asserted as fact.
Posted by: Kensington at March 14, 2012 02:58 PM (/AHDz)
Well, if that was the plan, I think she handled it poorly.
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at March 14, 2012 02:58 PM (sU4tb)
Meh...Coulter is just earning her paycheck from the Romney campaign like the good little schill that she is. What this line of attack against Palin suggests though is that the Romney campaign and the establishment is starting to get frustrated that they canÂ’t close this thing out and get some momentum going for Mitt.
Posted by: Hellridr at March 14, 2012 02:59 PM (YeDtG)
Posted by: Soona at March 14, 2012 02:59 PM (iJWgL)
Posted by: mare at March 14, 2012 03:00 PM (A98Xu)
That's why she has fans.
Why is so bad to have someone like that out there, pushing back against the never-ending prog agenda?
Really, why?
Posted by: qrstuv at March 14, 2012 03:01 PM (r8o76)
Posted by: And Irresolute at March 14, 2012 03:01 PM (RC3M9)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at March 14, 2012 03:02 PM (d6QMz)
Okay maet, I haven't had the time to read the whole thread, so some are doing that, I'll take your word for it. But I am not purging her or anyone else.
I'm just saying that her thing seems to be her own popularity above other considerations.
I'm not saying she wants Obummer to win re-elction.
She just (metaphorically) stands there shouting "look at me".
And I am not anti Romney. I think he is our best shot.
Posted by: kinlaw at March 14, 2012 03:02 PM (1OjQp)
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This. OMG, old Ann Coulter columns used to be so funny that I'd have to actually stifle my laughter because I was at work. I can't remember the last time that was true.
Posted by: Kensington at March 14, 2012 03:02 PM (/AHDz)
Posted by: not the droid you seek at March 14, 2012 03:02 PM (n/oUU)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at March 14, 2012 06:58 PM (1zwZo)
That's possible. I was never really a fan of hers back then either so it's not like I have anything invested in her. But I *hate* seeing people declared Un-Conservative Others over mere disagreements on candidates and tactics. This is typical of the left and I hate to see it infest the conservative base as well.
Posted by: Mætenloch at March 14, 2012 03:03 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: A Mindful Webworker at March 14, 2012 03:03 PM (lBpVP)
No Grasshoppers... you do not understand...
Master Palin does not follow the Hard Political Martial arts... no Tai Kwan Do for her... she is a Master of the counter... an Aikido Master... one who lets the enemy attack, then uses that force against them....
The problem is... that Aikido is useless unless someon attacks... so a Master will have students attack, so they can practice their power....
Note Palin has been silent for months... because of no Attacks... now, she will be back in the Media, due to Colter's attacks...
Posted by: Master Romeo, 13th Dan Black Belt of Triple Think at March 14, 2012 03:04 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: A Mindful Webworker at March 14, 2012 03:04 PM (lBpVP)
Posted by: And Irresolute at March 14, 2012 03:05 PM (RC3M9)
But she lost a lot of luster in her choices of Presidential candidates, both in 2008 and now.
Posted by: Vic at March 14, 2012 03:05 PM (YdQQY)
I was there. A lot of people were not thrilled that she pitched Romney. Not that we were surprised or that it matters. The presidential primary is over so it was kind of pointless. 99.9% of the people there will vote for whomever the nominee is. Indian River is a pretty solid GOP/ABO county.
And for the record, several people who were in that room hate Palin with a passion. It wasn't like her snark was greeted with stunned silence.
If I could be catty for a second ... Coulter may be grouchy because she's starving. She really needs to eat something.
Posted by: Alisa at March 14, 2012 03:05 PM (+l8OU)
Posted by: mare at March 14, 2012 03:05 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: rickl supports SMOD/Supervolcano 2012 at March 14, 2012 03:06 PM (sdi6R)
Vic, how's it going?
I'm not one to brand someone "Others" unless they do something egregious (I'm looking at you, David Frum). I do not have a problem, however, saying I think some on our side need to STFU sometimes.
Posted by: Conservative Crank at March 14, 2012 03:07 PM (1zwZo)
She actually stated she voted for Newt, you know, the "cheerful one", in the Alaska caucuses. I would say that's an endorsement.
She wants to be considered as a nominee in a brokered convention, but wants to act just like any other pundit? Hummm...cake and eat it too?
Hey, I was on the Palin bandwagon until the Iowa State fair fiasco. There were a lot of us there working our asses off to made the Republican party come off looking good and there she showed up ; ---- "look at me!!! look at me!!!" That day I took the dive off the Palin bandwagon.
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at March 14, 2012 03:07 PM (sU4tb)
Posted by: mare at March 14, 2012 03:09 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: mare at March 14, 2012 03:10 PM (A98Xu)
pineapples in their squeakholes. Palin really pissed me off when she endorsed that fucking
fraud Allen West for VP. Fuck them all the whoring bitches.
Posted by: Cast Iron at March 14, 2012 03:12 PM (EL+OC)
Posted by: Alisa at March 14, 2012 07:05 PM (+l8OU)
Probably the only interesting thing that David Brock ever said was when he described Ann Coulter as "living on Chardonnay and cigarettes".
Posted by: somebody else, not me at March 14, 2012 03:12 PM (nZvGM)
Posted by: mare at March 14, 2012 03:13 PM (A98Xu)
Ann, does best when going after the other political party.
The liberals never lose focus, they are all always trained on us. So the least you could say against Ann is that she has lost the focus. The enemy is in the Democrat camp, Ann.
And finally, why oh why can't people simply extol the virtues of their candidate, and those they admire, instead of hurling abuse at the others in your party? The Democrats never ever break this commandment.
Posted by: Decaf at March 14, 2012 03:13 PM (Tsk5H)
Oh, that's right -- it's because she's a "pundit". Got it.
It's fine if you want to say everybody needs to knock it off -- but I refuse to give Palin a pass.
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at March 14, 2012 03:16 PM (sU4tb)
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See, this is where you Palin detractors always lose me. What the hell did she do? For real. What do you mean "look at me!!! look at m!!!"?
What did she do? She shouldn't have gone to the Iowa State Fair!?! Why not?
Posted by: Kensington at March 14, 2012 03:17 PM (/AHDz)
Hah! I remember that jibe. But remember, it was David Crock saying it. He wrote for the American Spectator, edited by Emmett Tyrell and his boys. Coulter was in National Review. I suspect David Crock didn't spend much time around the NR crowd.
That, and he's not all that credible to begin with. [shocka]
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at March 14, 2012 03:20 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: The Brain in the Jar at March 14, 2012 03:20 PM (zHPKG)
Posted by: Alec Rawls at March 14, 2012 03:26 PM (kTTUz)
The GOP has entirely too many factions made up of fans of certain radio hosts or TV pundits.
I made my decision based on who I thought could do the best against Obama. Others here differ.
That is all I have to say.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 14, 2012 03:26 PM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Commenter at March 14, 2012 03:35 PM (Vg4Vv)
Posted by: Decaf at March 14, 2012 03:36 PM (Tsk5H)
Meh.
She's turned into an attention whore scrabbeling to stay in the center ring and no, I wouldn't hit it.
Posted by: Gmac at March 14, 2012 03:40 PM (FMOfT)
Unknot your panties. Did I say that? No.....
She waited until the absolutely worse time to distract the media from our events and came by with her entourage. Five minutes before we were to start handing out our packets. Do you really think she is so inept that she didn't think she would grab the media attention? She knew damn well what she was doing. We went from having people in line at our booths, to them scurrying away to try and get a glimpse of ol' Sarah. And you know what she said when we asked her head mistress about it? "we're not here to interupt. You just carry on."
Seriously, you think she's too stupid to notice when she does this stuff?
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at March 14, 2012 03:41 PM (sU4tb)
Yea, it was an innocent mistake, I'm sure.
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at March 14, 2012 03:44 PM (sU4tb)
Posted by: runner at March 14, 2012 03:44 PM (WR5xI)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 14, 2012 03:47 PM (gA69l)
Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at March 14, 2012 03:48 PM (nonzP)
Posted by: Rich K at March 14, 2012 04:02 PM (X4l3T)
Posted by: gary gulrud at March 14, 2012 04:15 PM (o0Uno)
Posted by: madtechie at March 14, 2012 04:22 PM (Eky9b)
Posted by: theadmiral at March 14, 2012 04:25 PM (K7a8I)
Posted by: exceller at March 14, 2012 04:27 PM (Z7Znk)
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at March 14, 2012 04:30 PM (IojUD)
I think the title of this post is wrong and is twisting Coulter's words.
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 14, 2012 04:34 PM (2YIVk)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 14, 2012 04:37 PM (r4wIV)
. I was beginning to fear that there may have been truth to the contention that Palin's interest in self-promotion may supersede her interest in promoting the party.
Then came the second book. And the fox gig. Todd's graceless and inappropriate public rants.
The final straw in my crossover from apprehension to utter distaste was the long con she pulled on her base, sucking up sarahpac donations by playing coy with her presidential ambitions while riding around the country hitting all the major campaign stops in a campaign-themed bus: Sarah Palin's early-primary campaign infrastructure was FAR more developed than Rick Santorum's.
Now she is explicitly fomenting the continued fracture of the party's primary voters by encouraging her rabid, celebrity-worshipping fan base to cast votes not on ideology but to "keep the fight going"Â…working against party unity and cohesion so she can continue to play coy by "graciously" offering herself for a contested-convention ticket slot.
The game she is playing is building animosity and distrust between various factions of the base so that her name might remain centre stage for either monetary reasons (viz sarahpac) or maintenance of her celebrity/notoriety.
I'm sorry, but any politician taking self-benefitting actions that are undoubtedly against the interest of republican voters' coalescing around a deeply flawed candidate to defeat Obama is at BEST a charlatan.
To me, the fact that she CONTINUES to drop coy hints about her possible availability for brokered candidacy in order to keep her star shining or the PAC tills turning leaves her dangerously close to becoming an outright fraudÂ…and CERTAINLY a saboteur.Posted by: Jimi Ray at March 14, 2012 04:40 PM (xLcec)
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at March 14, 2012 04:40 PM (IojUD)
Posted by: CarolT at March 14, 2012 04:46 PM (z4WKX)
*Waves the bartender over*
*Points to Jimi Ray*
Says, "Give that fella a nice tall glass of Shut The Fuck Up, on me."
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth, SMH at the idiots at March 14, 2012 04:50 PM (NL15p)
I am trying really hard to hold off criticizing anyone. I will admit I have been bad about doing that. I think everyone has had their say on this by now. I know I have.
So I am not saying another word about any of the candidates.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 14, 2012 04:51 PM (GoIUi)
Posted by: iknowiwasthere at March 14, 2012 04:51 PM (37+xK)
It's good to know that even if Ann has lost the ability to intentionally make us laugh, there are legions of fools who will unintentionally make us laugh.
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at March 14, 2012 04:53 PM (NL15p)
Posted by: rickl supports SMOD/Supervolcano 2012 at March 14, 2012 05:04 PM (sdi6R)
ancient tasmanian saying: the family that fights together stays together
Posted by: rik santo at March 14, 2012 05:15 PM (Yrh/5)
Posted by: doug at March 14, 2012 05:19 PM (gUGI6)
Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at March 14, 2012 05:20 PM (jTVGC)
I recognize now that she's pushing hard for someone we could call a RINO, but to be honest...I'm reluctantly pulling for Romney at this point, even if only because it looks inevitable and we need to start uniting against Obama in the general.
Aside from the Romney endorsement(s), is there something about her that I missed? Something that makes "true" converatives' blood really boil? I'm not trying to argue, I'm just seeking more information. I realize I have a lot to learn about the right.
Posted by: red sweater at March 14, 2012 05:26 PM (txb2n)
Posted by: Lee at March 14, 2012 05:27 PM (RtwOA)
Posted by: Y-not at March 14, 2012 05:27 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Jimi Ray at March 14, 2012 05:30 PM (xLcec)
Or at least staying above the fray until a clear winner emerges and then throwing her support to that candidate. That will be harder to do now with any sincerity. Completely baffling. I thought she had more political savvy. Maybe it is the circle of people around her advising her, I have no idea.
Posted by: crosspatch at March 14, 2012 05:39 PM (ZbLJZ)
Posted by: rickl supports SMOD/Supervolcano 2012 at March 14, 2012 05:40 PM (sdi6R)
I admired and laughed with her but apparently she's done a Charles Johnson and morphed into some caricature of what she used to mock. Now I'm laughing AT her.
Ann oh Ann what happened honey? Biological clock start doing the final countdown? Getting banged by young republican frat boys not ringing your bells anymore?
Well, whatever the cause, please STFU and STFD. Please?
You're getting on my last nerve and you're really getting into the "E" zone. (That's Establishment Whiner Zone)
Posted by: The SMOD has been temporarily delayed until 2013. Please stand by. at March 14, 2012 05:44 PM (CP+yl)
Posted by: Williard Mahr at March 14, 2012 05:58 PM (dmEoV)
You have to experience it in real time.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 14, 2012 06:01 PM (iRp9J)
Gingrich: Nope. Democrats in general and center Democrats in particular are NOT EVER going to forget what Gingrich did to Bill Clinton while Gingrich himself was engaged in pretty much the very same behavior. The center Democrats loved Clinton. Newt would not get a single crossover Democrat. Without any crossover Democrats, a candidate can't win a national election. Republicans account for 35% of the electorate nationally but much fewer in many states. Winning the Presidency depends on winning the vote in the several states, not national popular vote. Gingrich wouldn't stand a chance except in the reddest of red states.
Santorum: Could *possibly* get some of the center Democrats IF the economy continues to be bad. If the economy starts to pick up toward the elections, the only argument he would have is "Obama sucks worse than I do" and that isn't really a viable election strategy. His conservative rhetoric isn't going to play well to the rest of the electorate and he really doesn't have much else.
Romney: Can easily pick up a huge amount of the independent vote and the center Democrats. He is someone Democrats have crossed over and voted for before. Obama is scared to death of Romney. Romney could take a lot of the old Reagan Democrats and Clinton Democrats who don't much care for how Obama treated Hillary in the last election and aren't all that enamored with Obama to begin with. Romney's problem will be bigotry from those who just can't bring themselves to vote for a Mormon. That will play big in the black community as the areas that tend to have a large Mormon population tend to have few blacks. There just aren't so many black folks in Idaho and Montana and Wyoming. That gives the impression that Mormons are racist but that has started to change recently with a vibrant and growing black Mormon population. And example where that was attempted to be stoked was the false rumors started that Romney campaign officials were attempting to eliminate Allen West's district. That turned out to be completely false but got wide reporting at the time and played into that stereotype.
I believe Romney has a good chance. He will collect more crossover Democrat and Independent votes than Bush did and I believe the Obama campaign is scared to death of him.
Posted by: crosspatch at March 14, 2012 06:01 PM (ZbLJZ)
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 14, 2012 06:02 PM (iRp9J)
I guess a competent center-right candidate is too much to ask. So it's four more years of Ofucktard thanks to the Pure Conservatives.
Posted by: packsoldier at March 14, 2012 06:05 PM (9tLNI)
Posted by: #OccupyResoluteDesk at March 14, 2012 06:09 PM (+nCNS)
Posted by: rickl supports SMOD/Supervolcano 2012 at March 14, 2012 06:10 PM (sdi6R)
Sadly, I sort agree with you about the center-right candidate and likely getting four more years of Obumbler thanks to "Pure" conservatives. I don't think Palin is a charlatan, though. I think she's just getting bad political advice.
Posted by: crosspatch at March 14, 2012 06:11 PM (ZbLJZ)
I don't believe that for a second. Romney is virtually the poster boy for the eeeeeevil "1%". Obama is salivating at the prospect of running against him.
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He might well have that thought process going but if so, he is breathing a little too much of his own exhaust. That evil 1% meme isn't really getting a lot of traction outside of the choir who would vote for him anyway. It would play well to his base but not very well outside of that.
Maybe if Romney got his money through inheritance or was from a multi-generational family of millionaires ... possibly. Romney's father was a self-made made and Romney is a self-made man. He is the sort of success we should all strive for and hope for our children to achieve.
Posted by: crosspatch at March 14, 2012 06:14 PM (ZbLJZ)
Posted by: Underdown at March 14, 2012 06:18 PM (9dMDm)
Posted by: rickl supports SMOD/Supervolcano 2012 at March 14, 2012 06:25 PM (sdi6R)
Nonsense. The Democratic media machine is in full swing and has been for months, and Obama is still tanking in the polls.
Plus, Romney has done what no GOP candidate has done in the modern era: garnered support from educated, upper-income earners. They typically go Democrat.
More of the base voted in 2008 than 2004. The base won't sit this election out or vote third party.
The notion that a moderate can't win is also nonsense. Bush 41 screwed himself with his betrayal on "No new taxes!" Dole had Perot as spoiler. McCain was up against geniuses like Gene Simmons, who said he voted for Obama simply to be able to play a part in electing the First Black President. Obama's first attack ad was against Sarah Palin. It didn't fool anyone, even Democrats.
And Carter and Reagan were neck and neck in the polls until the final week before the elections. Carter even led in plenty of polls. Reagan was no shoe-in or knight riding in on a white horse. That's all historical revisionism.
You're being fed giant bucketfuls of bullshit to demoralize you. Stop sucking it down without questioning it.
Posted by: Llarry at March 14, 2012 06:27 PM (Rnfm0)
Romney became governor of a completely different state. There was no dynasty involved. You might have a valid argument if Mitt had followed his father as Michigan governor.
Romney got a business degree and a law degree ... at the same time. That's pretty hard. He attended Harvard Law School and Harvard Business School at the same time, dude. He took over the Winter Olympics WHILE running a political campaign for governor of MA. The man can walk and chew gum at the same time.
Posted by: crosspatch at March 14, 2012 06:33 PM (ZbLJZ)
"Conservatives" didn't much like Reagan in '76 or '80. They didn't come around until '84.
Posted by: crosspatch at March 14, 2012 06:34 PM (ZbLJZ)
I'm sure Obama believes that the country will respond positively to his class-warfare campaign, but the evidence shows that such an approach will backfire the way everything else Obama has done will backfire.
The Occupy movement imploded. The attack on Limbaugh is in the process of imploding. Going after the "1 percent" in a national election as he rakes in cash from them is a loser on every level, because most people care much more about having more opportunities for themselves, not punishing others for their success.
Obama is great at one thing: misreading the mood of the nation. By November nobody's going to give a shit about how much Romney makes. All they'll want to know is whether or not he can reverse the decline we're in. If he can make a better argument than Obama that he can, he'll win.
The country has seen what Obama has done as president for three years now. They're going to be much more willing to take a chance on anybody but Obama.
Posted by: Llarry at March 14, 2012 06:36 PM (Rnfm0)
"When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn't like it.
"Compromise" was a dirty word to them and they wouldn't face the fact that we couldn't get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you don't get it all, some said, don't take anything.
"I'd learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: 'I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.'
"If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that's what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it.-- Ronald Reagan
Posted by: crosspatch at March 14, 2012 06:37 PM (ZbLJZ)
Reagan has always been considered a squish by the plenty of the Republican base. He's also been criticized all along for spending too much.
The Tea Partiers aren't some wild band of fanatics searching for absolute ideological purity. That's another media trope that simply doesn't jibe with reality.
Posted by: Llarry at March 14, 2012 06:40 PM (Rnfm0)
Bush wasn't my optimal candidate, either. Either of the Bush's. I was for Pete DuPont in 1988, for example, as I had lived in Delaware when he was governor and he completely turned that state around financially.
Posted by: crosspatch at March 14, 2012 06:44 PM (ZbLJZ)
Add skyrocketing electricity prices and rolling blackouts because of the new EPA regulations; the highest fuel-oil prices in history hitting in the fall and early winter; closing of municipal swimming pools all over the country, beginning tomorrow; the ongoing, incremental implementation of ObamaCare that's already putting doctors out of business...
Obama will be jabbering about Romney's Cadillacs and his mistreated dog, while Romney will be laying out his plans to make our quality of life better.
Posted by: Llarry at March 14, 2012 06:45 PM (Rnfm0)
Son of a governor. Of Michigan. And you make it sound like being a Governor makes one super wealthy or something.
Posted by: crosspatch
No, being the son of a Detroit automaker CEO makes you rich. Being the son of a Michigan Governor gives you inherited political connections.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 14, 2012 06:48 PM (kdS6q)
You're a liar and an idiot.
Posted by: iknowiwasthere at March 14, 2012 08:51 PM (37+xK)
Thank you for the perfect example of what the Palinistas have become and why they alienate more conservatives than Coulter ever could.
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at March 14, 2012 06:50 PM (HMeTs)
Yep. That class warfare stuff does not seem to be getting any traction. People don't see our problems as the fault of the rich. What Romney should do during the national campaign is rub the Democrats noses in the mortgage meltdown. Show the people how it was Senate Democrats who blocked legislation several times that would have more closely regulated the GSE's. Show how the Republicans said several times, starting in 2001, that what was going to possibly happen turned out to be prophetic. In 2001, in 2003, and in 2005 the Republicans attempted to do something about the situation. Barney Frank said in the House that any talk of a mortgage bubble was a "figment of the imagination of the Republicans". He should absolutely rub their noses in it. Put this current financial situation squarely in their lap and then point out that they had a majority in the House and a supermajority in the Senate during Obama's term and wasted it. How many jobs bills has the House sent to die in the Senate?
Democrats have a LOT to answer for and Romney should hold their feet to the fire.
Posted by: crosspatch at March 14, 2012 06:52 PM (ZbLJZ)
It didn't make Mitt Romney rich. He didn't keep one thin dime of his inheritance.
Not one dime. He also took no salary as Governor of MA. He made his money himself. He didn't inherit any of it.
Posted by: crosspatch at March 14, 2012 06:54 PM (ZbLJZ)
He also donated his entire salary, and severance from the 2002 Olympics, the entire thing, including giving and additional $1 million of his own money to the Olympic Committee. He refused a salary as Governor of MA as the state was running a budget deficit.
Posted by: crosspatch at March 14, 2012 07:01 PM (ZbLJZ)
Posted by: East Bay Jay at March 14, 2012 07:10 PM (svwGR)
Posted by: crosspatch at March 14, 2012 07:10 PM (ZbLJZ)
Posted by: crosspatch at March 14, 2012 10:34 PM (ZbLJZ)
I'm assuming by your subsequent comment when you tee off on the caricature by the MFM about the Tea Party that you're being tongue and cheeky with the quotes around Conservatives.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 14, 2012 07:12 PM (iRp9J)
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 14, 2012 07:16 PM (iRp9J)
The sort that argued for and did indeed refuse to vote for McCain in the last election, for example. Those people actually elected Obama if there were as many of them as claimed they refused to vote for McCain. It is cutting off the nose to spite the face. "I'm not voting for anyone who isn't my brand of conservative" ends up being "I am going to make sure the Democrat gets elected".
Posted by: crosspatch at March 14, 2012 07:20 PM (ZbLJZ)
Nominating Newt, for example, would basically end the political campaign. Obama could phone it in. Same might be true 4 or 5 month from now if Santorum is nominated. Romeny's the only real shot we have and yet he may be torpedoed by the "conservatives" and the general election handed to Obama.
Posted by: crosspatch at March 14, 2012 07:24 PM (ZbLJZ)
That's not the way I remember it. I grew up in a pretty rural conservative area. During those campaigns I was in the military. All I heard from everyone was that they didn't want some California Hollywood actor being President and that he was a higher up in that "commie Hollywood actors union".
Posted by: crosspatch at March 14, 2012 07:26 PM (ZbLJZ)
Watch his first inaugural address. It's on youtube. It is just as pertinent today as it was then.
Posted by: crosspatch at March 14, 2012 07:31 PM (ZbLJZ)
Because the country clubbers hated Reagan and thought of him as the second coming of Goldwater. And they had to be bribed by having Poppy Bush on the ticket with him that set up the giant fuck job starting in 1989.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 14, 2012 07:34 PM (iRp9J)
Oh, yeah ... hold on a second and let me see how you actually voted ... ah, here it is ... under Hate, Capt.
Of course I don't have any proof except for what they were saying at the time.
And if Santorum is elected, I will vote for him. I just don't believe he's our best shot at getting Obama's ass out of the White House.
Posted by: crosspatch at March 14, 2012 07:36 PM (ZbLJZ)
"Well I didn't vote for McCain and I won't vote for Romney. I refuse to vote for a liberal even if he's a republican."
That person is what I call a "conservative". A person who is so conservative they get Democrats elected.
Posted by: crosspatch at March 14, 2012 07:39 PM (ZbLJZ)
Posted by: crosspatch at March 14, 2012 11:26 PM (ZbLJZ)
Wow I don't know what to say to that. Carter was such a hapless POS that it's hard to imagine anybody in the military saying that. Too bad this is a dead thread because I'm sure some fellow morons were serving at that time and I'd love to hear their input.
In the civilian population it was waaaaaay different from what you're describing. Reagan was Archie Bunker's candidate on "All in the Family" and scared the shit out of all the libs in Cali and was sure to start WW3 with the commies. I lived through watching that shit and it wasn't until the debates with Carter that I thought he had a chance against that fucking goober. Plus life was so miserable under Carter that a change just had to come.
I think any of the Repub candidates can beat El JEFe because people just don't like misery. I know a lot of people here don't believe that but I'm not the only one thinking that by a long shot.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 14, 2012 07:41 PM (iRp9J)
Signing off
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 14, 2012 07:45 PM (iRp9J)
Posted by: enter sandman, returning commentor and lurker at March 14, 2012 07:48 PM (zxaA2)
Shoot, I was at Ft. Bragg sitting on a C-141 at Pope AFB when the rescue attempt failed. If those guys had got stuck in Tehran, the Army was coming loaded for bear. It wouldn't have mattered after that for us WHO got the Republican nomination, it was "anybody but Carter" at that point.
I was talking more about the discussion during the primaries. Even then, most of the guys weren't that political. There weren't a lot of political discussions.
Posted by: crosspatch at March 14, 2012 07:48 PM (ZbLJZ)
Posted by: Africanus at March 14, 2012 07:56 PM (h4Qjn)
I honestly haven't been following her for the past year or so, her outright praise of Romney was frankly... off-putting, but I figured it was some sort of phase she going through.
At the risk of honking off the moronettes... she a woman, and as such, trying to figure out what's going on in her (or any woman's) head is a total waste of time.
This attack on Palin is the last straw... and leads me to believe she has sold out to the machine because Palin's chief foe is 'machine politics' (see Alaska for further details) in general.
She got to see first-hand the creatures that surrounded McCain, and walked away from them, just as I have walked away from the Ohio GOP... I remember their lack of support for Blackwell, and haven't forgiven them for it.
I stick with the Repubs because they ain't 'rats... that's their chief selling point, and that's where the real fight for control of a political party is.
Demoncrat party is dead and gone; the '68 crowd has finished it's take-over of it, and the marxists and socialists are firmly in control.
Any thought of redeeming that party's soul is an utter waste of time.
The real fight for a party is within the GOP... and I plainly see Coulter sitting in the wrong trench.
Too bad for her... 'cause I ain't taking any prisoners.
Posted by: CPT. Charles at March 14, 2012 07:56 PM (1GunI)
Sometimes saying something controversial gets the spotlight put on you which can be important if your income is generated by that spotlight. I take the word charlatan to be something closer to "fraud". I don't think she is being fraudulent but maybe it does fit if it is being used in the sense of someone who is claiming great authority on some subject but doesn't have it.
She certainly has a great following but if she keeps this up, it could evaporate on her. She needs to be a unifying force, not a divisive force. A divisive force by its very nature alienates a portion of its potential supporters. This can lead to an erosion of support overall. Look at what Reagan did. He believed in the American people ... ALL OF THEM. That is why he was so popular across party lines. Reagan picked the most "cucumber sandwich" establishment Republican there was at the time for a running mate.
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Posted by: Edward Cropper at March 15, 2012 05:22 AM (yBOkB)
I was really pissed watching the vid and had words to say here, until I read the comments. This political slut, whore, is toast. What has Romney offered her?
Posted by: Ed at March 15, 2012 06:12 AM (7U7hA)
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Posted by: blindside at March 15, 2012 06:26 AM (x7g7t)
I'm really confused by Coulter these days. Used to be she had carved out a niche market in spewing all kinds of obnoxious things that the Religious Right really felt, but was too polite to say, or at least they really enjoyed hearing it. Yeah, she had some intelligent things to say here and there, but the other stuff was how she made her living.
Now? Now she's backing a guy that the hardcore Religious Right hates (mostly for being - gasp - Mormon - oh, and having done some mildly liberal things, too), and taking nonsensical swipes at Sarah Palin? I'm not even much of a Palin fan, and the whole thing just sounds nuts.
Posted by: Optimizer at March 15, 2012 07:12 AM (As94z)
I really do think that she is nothing more than an attention whore.
Coulter is upset with Palin because the more people pay attention to Palin, the less attention gets paid to Coulter.
Posted by: Lee Reynolds at March 15, 2012 07:18 AM (rJMw2)
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Posted by: Ed at March 16, 2012 08:58 AM (7U7hA)
Or maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm just imagining these guys taking turns saying and doing stuff that makes me cringe in fear for them at the prospect of putting any of them up as the nominee. Being a better candidate than Sarah Palin was supposedly such a low bar. Why do so many allegedly more experienced, better-prepared politicians have so much trouble clearing it?
And "tough stuff"? Even if it were a fair and well-founded accusation (and I'm not convinced, especially considering that mouthing off on and interfering in politics is as much or more Ann's livelihood than it is Sarah's) allow me to retort. Meh. Palin's been accused of, among other things, passing her daughter's son off as hers for political gain and inciting political assassination. After that, plain old-fashioned electioneering doesn't even paint the radar.
Posted by: Rich Fader at March 16, 2012 12:15 PM (XSEcT)
Posted by: Edward Cropper at March 16, 2012 03:45 PM (yBOkB)
Cropper @ 356, "Political insight' and constant references to my 'diapers.' Here's the real deal folks. Cropper has his own blog that nobody has bothered to comment on. I say again, NOBODY! So whats Cropper do, he comes over to ACE to claim no one here has any political insight (read his #345 above, again).
Oh, and it gets better. On his own blog, Cropper exhibits absolutely no 'insight', other than his clever little right leaning cartoons and posters. I say again, not only doesn't anyone display interest in Croppers posters and cartoons, Cropper doesn't display any written commentary, on his own insight. I'm guessing the elitist prick is about 44 years old, I'm 61.
I will need diapers soon enough, once again, but only my wife needs to worry about that. Meanwhile, Cropper's failed website is still stinking-up the internet.
Posted by: Ed at March 17, 2012 02:03 PM (7U7hA)
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