April 13, 2012

AoSHQ Presidential Projection 2012- April Edition
— CAC

Electoral Map (Obama-Romney) - 3/13/13

Map courtesy of the great JohnE, as always.
With the primary a done deal, the general election is at hand. Romney enjoyed a gaffe from uber-secret mole Hilary Rosen, and his numbers against the President have improved in polling. President Obama enjoyed a growing margin over Romney in state-by-state and national polling, but much of that was data taken before the abrupt end of primary season on Tuesday. Candidates will typically enjoy a "unity bounce" as the primary resolves, and we may be seeing evidence of that this week. Currently, President Obama enjoys a 2 point deficit in a FoxNews poll and 4 point deficit per Rasmussen. Romney and Obama have see-sawed in our daily tracker, with Obama enjoying a small edge through Tuesday.

Some additional thoughts. Argue until you are blue in the face, Pennsylvania is the "hype state" for 2012. What's a hype state, you might ask? Think of political geekdom's obsession with Florida in 2000 or Ohio in 2004. It is a sizeable "swing" state deemed as the make-or-break for both sides.

The CAC rule on flipping the White House would hold here, as Romney is currently projected to flip Iowa (George W Bush failed to do in 2000, the last election in which Republicans won back the White House). Would be grand if it isn't the only one.

*poll update for lulz* YouGov has a new poll out showing Obama edging Romney 46-43, and suffering a 41/50 approval rating. You would think his leading Romney would be good news until you see the partisan breakdown of the poll: 46% Democrat, 35% Republican, 19% Independent. In a D+11 poll, Obama's approval rating is atrocious and he can only barely edge Romney. I wonder what that poll would look like with the PVI of 2004 or even 2008.

Posted by: CAC at 01:38 PM | Comments (135)
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1 Obviously, some people are fucking imbeciles.

Posted by: nickless at April 13, 2012 01:46 PM (MMC8r)

2 This is a Big Fuckin' deal.

Posted by: Joe Biden at April 13, 2012 01:46 PM (VjZSp)

3 We really need a screen shot of the upper left hand corner:

http://www.drudgereport.com/

Posted by: momma at April 13, 2012 01:47 PM (oKsWl)

4 I love the giant maps

Posted by: The Jackhole at April 13, 2012 01:48 PM (nTgAI)

5 Too many toss ups for me

Posted by: The Jackhole at April 13, 2012 01:48 PM (nTgAI)

6 What utter BS!  Obama will not win more than 15 states, end of story.  Wake me up on November 7th.

Posted by: USNA1985 at April 13, 2012 01:49 PM (U3TDy)

7

CAC organizes his paper clips by color. This is a big development. Will send photos  immediately.

Posted by: ace of spades mole at April 13, 2012 01:49 PM (HzhBE)

8 The beatings will continue until moral improves.

Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2012 01:50 PM (O/fK8)

9
Next time you have a chance, remind an Obama rump swab about Guantanamo prison.


Posted by: Soothsayer at April 13, 2012 01:51 PM (84JKc)

10 BO wants Romney's tax returns from the 70s+, yet he refuses to allow us to see his college transcripts, etc?!

What an ass.

Posted by: momma at April 13, 2012 01:51 PM (oKsWl)

11 CAC, thanks for the legend info. Makes the map much more readable, especially for an old K-9 with GOP abused rectal disorder.

Posted by: maddogg at April 13, 2012 01:51 PM (OlN4e)

12 NH will go Romney in November.

Posted by: Mitt Still Sux, But O-bah-muhh Sux More at April 13, 2012 01:51 PM (s5Y90)

13 If Ohio Congress can end early voting 2 months out, same day voting, etc., then Ohio might have a chance to turn red again.

They are in the process of doing it now.

Say a prayer.

It was voter fraud that turned Ohio for Obama.

Posted by: momma at April 13, 2012 01:53 PM (oKsWl)

14 Hmmm

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 13, 2012 01:53 PM (AawBK)

15 California is like a woman. Can't live with 'em , Can't live without 'em. They have everything you can want in a State location and resources and they have found a way to screw themselves.

Posted by: polynikes at April 13, 2012 01:53 PM (3467A)

16 pretty sad for us that NC and VA aren't solid in Mitt's column

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 13, 2012 01:54 PM (84JKc)

17 I forgot to add 'and screw us too'

Posted by: polynikes at April 13, 2012 01:55 PM (3467A)

18 And COLO too Soothy.  Very depressing.

Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2012 01:55 PM (O/fK8)

19

Toss ups. .....That's the people who will get all the attention....while those of us out in the big red states get ignored.

 

Fuckin toss ups.

Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2012 01:55 PM (+5U+B)

20 Has the House tried to do anything towards rectifying the situation with overseas Soldiers' votes?

Many didn't get counted (or even received) last Presidential election.

Posted by: momma at April 13, 2012 01:55 PM (oKsWl)

21 So this election turns on the rust belt....

Posted by: Hedgehog at April 13, 2012 01:55 PM (3jGS1)

22 Just got back from the freeps.  WOW, it is a replay of the little green retards.  What a bunch of morons. 

Posted by: howcome at April 13, 2012 01:56 PM (KgDYO)

23
This Tuesday, the 17th, is the AZ-8 primary.

If you can, support Jesse Kelly.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 13, 2012 01:56 PM (84JKc)

24

He'll fwip ya. Fwip ya for wreal.

 

Posted by: Empire of Fenster at April 13, 2012 01:56 PM (rpFf/)

25 I'm going blue, people.

Posted by: Pennsylvania at April 13, 2012 01:57 PM (v1uZf)

26 Schweeeet!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 13, 2012 01:57 PM (UTq/I)

27 Click on signature for details from my.barackobama.com for an important SCOAMF-walk May 1st at the US Treasury Building Washington DC

Or here: http://goo.gl/LweWI

Walk for HOPE! (Community Service)
We need HOPE! So let's walk for it! The rabid rethuglicans think they can get away calling the President a SCOAMF. They can only get away with it if we let them. Stand together for the future of America. Join some of DC's up and coming Democrats leaders of tomorrow as we take a stand by walking! Starts at the US Treasury and ends at Congress. Bring comfortable shoes and a positive attitude!

Posted by: SCOAMF Walk at April 13, 2012 01:58 PM (qxcKC)

28
Congress voted down GITMO closure, you idiots.

Posted by: the thing that lives under the stairs at April 13, 2012 05:56 PM (z0HdK

It's so pathetic I feel sorry for it.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 13, 2012 01:59 PM (84JKc)

29 We don't need PA but we win it and Barky gets evicted in a landslide. And I believe this is the year we finally catch Moby Dick.

Posted by: mugiwara at April 13, 2012 01:59 PM (KI/Ch)

30 SCOAMF took North Carolina by around .002% of the state population in 2008. Not going to happen this year. They're still hovering at around 10% unemployment.

Posted by: Foul Harold at April 13, 2012 01:59 PM (Uj/f4)

31 Remind me to buy more .223 and 9mm. Watch for sales

Posted by: The Jackhole at April 13, 2012 02:00 PM (nTgAI)

32

15 California is like a woman....

 

Um....polynikes. That's not a very nice thing to say. ....Your mama was a woman. Unless you are not human.

Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2012 02:00 PM (+5U+B)

33 Awwww. The map just got little-er. boo.

Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2012 02:01 PM (+5U+B)

34 19 Toss ups. .....That's the people who will get all the attention....while those of us out in the big red states get ignored.

Wouldn't you gladly accept that to see Barry's tail lights in 2013?

Posted by: pep at April 13, 2012 02:02 PM (6TB1Z)

35 No way VA is a toss up.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 13, 2012 02:03 PM (jucos)

36 Ohio, Virginia, and New Hampshire go Romney. PA, MI and WI are somewhat less likely.

Posted by: Have Blue at April 13, 2012 02:03 PM (0dPUM)

37 Utah will never vote for Romney.

Posted by: Gerg at April 13, 2012 02:03 PM (5H6zj)

38 I never thought I'd find myself longing for the Lex Luthor Plan for creating beachfront property in AZ.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at April 13, 2012 02:04 PM (isP0N)

39 DO NOT believe the polls about Nevada.

Nevada went blue last time because the massive black community in Vegas turned out to vote for a black president. That enthusiasm is gone. IN addition, Nevada's other massive community - the Mormons - will swing Nevada red.

Bank on it.

Posted by: Sgt. York at April 13, 2012 02:05 PM (vyS+v)

40 PA, MI and WI are somewhat less likely. How much population has Detroit lost since 2008?

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 13, 2012 02:05 PM (QF8uk)

41 Pennsylvania is a SCOAMF.

Also, that's where vampires came from.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 13, 2012 02:05 PM (SY2Kh)

42 Maine sucks. I live here and the 2nd District and the way the things has been gerrymandered would even make Eldridge Gerry blush.

Posted by: DeusExMachina at April 13, 2012 02:05 PM (6RTwM)

43 I'm going blue, people.

Posted by: Pennsylvania at April 13, 2012 05:57 PM (v1uZf)

   Depends on turnout, but the demos have trended that way.  It sucks.  More Dems are abandoning the clusterfuck that is Philadelphia and moving to the collar counties.  My Montgomery county, forever a GOP bastion,has gone blue.   And as a result of redistricting, my Rep is the Comrade Alyson Schwartz.  It's depressing.  

   

I'm off to build a bunker on the roof.

Posted by: Gabby Giffords at April 13, 2012 02:06 PM (AxHOT)

44 Can we just make all liberal morons and welfare leeches move to blue states? They have screwed up enough real estate, make em live in their own excrement instead of fouling one locale and then moving on to another.

Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at April 13, 2012 02:07 PM (nonzP)

45 I just saw at the local Boulder Valley School District elementary school, the car parked in the principal's spot had Obama 08 and Hickenlooper bumper stickers.

The principal. On our tax dollars.

We have some pretty blatant commies out here in CO

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at April 13, 2012 02:07 PM (QTHTd)

46 We need HOPE! So let's walk for it! The rabid rethuglicans think they can get away calling the President a SCOAMF. They can only get away with it if we let them. Stand together for the future of America. Join some of DC's up and coming Democrats leaders of tomorrow as we take a stand by walking! Starts at the US Treasury and ends at Congress. Bring comfortable shoes and a positive attitude!
Posted by: SCOAMF Walk at April 13, 2012 05:58 PM (qxcKC)



That is just too fucking awesome. I love the event host, Baracka Obarry

Posted by: mugiwara at April 13, 2012 02:07 PM (KI/Ch)

47 How do you get Wisconsin as "Strong OBama"??

Posted by: mama winger at April 13, 2012 02:08 PM (P6QsQ)

48

35 Wouldn't you gladly accept that to see Barry's tail lights in 2013?

 

Sure. .....But it's irksome. ....And it will be irksome if Romney picks a VP that he thinks will appeal to the toss ups.

 

We're just chopped liver out here. Working hard, paying our taxes, paying our dues. We don't count. The 70% who didn't want Romney, because we figured that we would get ignored.

Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2012 02:09 PM (+5U+B)

49 Ignore my stupid question above.  Duh

Posted by: mama winger at April 13, 2012 02:09 PM (P6QsQ)

50 @51 I think you're looking at MN.

Posted by: Gerg at April 13, 2012 02:09 PM (5H6zj)

51 Hows come the Dipshit Repunks won so much territory, states and governorships and in the last lection but  in the redrawing of district lines drew themselves out of the picture?
 Stupid beyond belief Party?

Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at April 13, 2012 02:09 PM (nonzP)

52 >>as Romney is currently projected to flip Iowa

Does that include the shit-ton of illegal aliens voting for SCOAMF, or the Chicago kids voting on campus at the Iowa state universities?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Eeyore at April 13, 2012 02:10 PM (/kI1Q)

53 Hows come the Dipshit Repunks won so much territory, states and governorships and in the last lection but in the redrawing of district lines drew themselves out of the picture?
Stupid beyond belief Party?

Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at April 13, 2012 06:09 PM (nonzP)

By trying to draw as many safe districts as possible

Posted by: Gabby Giffords at April 13, 2012 02:10 PM (AxHOT)

54 Romney will get Nevada back too...

Posted by: packsoldier at April 13, 2012 02:10 PM (G/brl)

55 >>How do you get Wisconsin as "Strong OBama"??

Fraud.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Eeyore at April 13, 2012 02:11 PM (/kI1Q)

56
Come and listen to my story 'bout a man named Bam,
"I'm not half white, half black is what I am."
In twenty-oh-eight he was foolin' all the rubes,
With the help of the press and the television boobs.

Dissemblin' that is... black bull... Chi-Town greed.

Well the first thing you know ol' Bam's the President,
Lib folk said "Bam, grant us our free rent!"
Said "Single payer is the plan you ought to back."
So he turned it o'er to Nan and Harry (those two hacks).

OCare, that is. Executive orders. Dozens of czars.

Well now it's time to say good by to Bam and all his fools.
So we need to boot them out of gov'rnment and our schools.
You're all invited here and now to make this come to pass 
And show these fakers to the door then kick them in the ass.

Traitors that is. Drop that loot! Git your shoes off (the Resolute desk)!

Y'all git out now, y'hear?

Posted by: Barky O'BenDoin', Preznint De Luxe at April 13, 2012 02:12 PM (0AClR)

57 How many of you morons are voting as Eric Holder?

Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at April 13, 2012 02:12 PM (nonzP)

58 Red is for RACIST!!!!!

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at April 13, 2012 02:12 PM (61yvg)

59 wheatie, You're in Texas, aren't you? I think if Romney wins the folks in red states will do better because he will take the federal boots off our necks. Even if there's no improvement on, say, the Federal tax code for middle income people, they have a good shot of having their state and local taxes go down. People in blue states, like my poor dad in MD, will probably not fare so well. If you have a crappy governor, you are screwed. If you have a good one, there is some hope for your own personal situation improving.

Posted by: Y-not at April 13, 2012 02:12 PM (5H6zj)

60
Formattin' not my strong suit... and it's too much like workin' fer my taste!

Posted by: Barky O'BenDoin', Preznint De Luxe at April 13, 2012 02:13 PM (0AClR)

61 I think you're looking at MN. Posted by: Gerg at April 13, 2012 06:09 PM





Nah, I got one eye on the Cubs / Cards game, a teensy bit of the vodka in my system and I saw the big blob of Illinois blue and thought I was over the border.

Never blog accompanied by Svedka.

Posted by: mama winger at April 13, 2012 02:13 PM (P6QsQ)

62 Y-not. ....No, Oklahoma.

Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2012 02:14 PM (+5U+B)

63 @67 Same diff! (Stands back from grenade she just rolled into the thread.)

Posted by: Y-not is joking at April 13, 2012 02:15 PM (5H6zj)

64 What's the electoral vote count on that map come out to, then?  I am too Svedka'd to tell.

Are we winning?

Posted by: mama winger at April 13, 2012 02:15 PM (P6QsQ)

65 If you have a crappy governor, you are screwed. If you have a good one, there is some hope for your own personal situation improving.





I'll still have Walker, God willing.

Posted by: mama winger at April 13, 2012 02:16 PM (P6QsQ)

66 One thing you are all forgetting about PA this year that is new...

Voter ID

Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 13, 2012 02:17 PM (Why44)

67 Elbridge Gerry

Posted by: Jimbo at April 13, 2012 02:17 PM (O3R/2)

68 @69
Obama 216, Romney 241, Toss up 81

Too close to call.

Posted by: JonathanEllis at April 13, 2012 02:19 PM (BdzEV)

69
69 What's the electoral vote count on that map come out to, then? I am too Svedka'd to tell.
Are we winning?
Posted by: mama winger at April 13, 2012 06:15 PM (P6QsQ)


241 Romney / 216 Barky / 81 undecided

270 needed to win.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at April 13, 2012 02:19 PM (0AClR)

70 GO RINOs !!11!

Posted by: The Jackhole at April 13, 2012 02:19 PM (nTgAI)

71 Obama 216, Romney 241, Toss up 81

Too close to call.
Posted by: JonathanEllis at April 13, 2012 06:19 PM




Thanks. 

Posted by: mama winger at April 13, 2012 02:19 PM (P6QsQ)

72 If you have a crappy governor, you are screwed. If you have a good one, there is some hope for your own personal situation improving.

Whew, that's a relief.  Our governor is Mark Dayton... oh, shit.  I might as well start hording cardboard "Will Work For Food" signs now.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 13, 2012 02:21 PM (SY2Kh)

73 If Romney was running against just about anybody else, I would find it hard to vote for him.

I don't trust him, I don't believe he's as conservative as many hope or as conservative as he claims. I not sure he's anywhere near conservative but against this disgrace we have currently in office, he'll get my vote. No money, no campaigning, just my vote.

Posted by: If It's Mitt, Obama's a Hit at April 13, 2012 02:21 PM (CP+yl)

74

68 @67
Same diff!

 

Some people here call Texas...."Baja Oklahoma". Heh. 

Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2012 02:21 PM (+5U+B)

75 These numbers will only improve.  Romney will be able to outspend Obama and is just starting his national campaign.  Obama has been running his national campaign for 4 months.

Campaigns are a process.  You have to factor in how those will execute, if you are going to evaluate polling this early.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 13, 2012 02:24 PM (Why44)

76 Yikes. CA (55) + IL (20) + NY (29) = 104 and that gets Obama about half of his EC delegates.

It's a shame CA is so well and truly f***ed because the country really needs to be pulled out of the abyss. Just CA swinging Right would pretty much wipe out the Blue Menace.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 13, 2012 02:24 PM (eHIJJ)

77 Thanks mugiwara...I was trying to thread that needle of absurdity but not being to overt.

I clicked on the my.barackobama.com (the subdomain url is rather quite absurd..in a way it is hard to get caught parodying the libtards) ad in my hotmail and decided to see how far I could go...

anyone could go to my.barackobama.com and create an event. There isn't even an email opt-in.

So again, you rethugiclans...get some  smarts in your stupid asses. Stand with Obama and Walk for HOPE!

http://goo.gl/LweWI

Posted by: Conn. Moron (not CT moron, I'm a different dude) at April 13, 2012 02:24 PM (obQuu)

78 If you don't vote for Romney, don't ever blame anyone for the shitstorm that follows an Obama re-election.

Posted by: Jimbo at April 13, 2012 02:24 PM (O3R/2)

79
19 Toss ups. .....That's the people who will get all the attention....while those of us out in the big red states get ignored.
Fuckin toss ups.
Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2012 05:55 PM (+5U+B)



You dislike us? You really, really dislike us?

Posted by: Luntz' Dunces at April 13, 2012 02:24 PM (0AClR)

80 67 Y-not. ....No, Oklahoma. ******* 68 @67
Same diff!

(Stands back from grenade she just rolled into the thread.) ******* Wow....   My 100% guaranteed, no-holds-barred lock of the week or your money back: Oklahoma goes for Romney, although Obama might actually win one or two counties this time.  In 2008 every county went McCain.  

Posted by: Grim at April 13, 2012 02:26 PM (gyNYk)

81 We have some pretty blatant commies out here in CO

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at April 13, 2012 06:07 PM (QTHTd)


Didja read today's Daily Communist?
They're considering a San Francisco style plastic bag ban.

Posted by: jwb7605 at April 13, 2012 02:28 PM (Qxe/p)

82 The best plan for CA is for it to go into receivership, and the USA cut off its libtard part and revert it back to "territory" status. There is, still, a conservative part of CA; that can stay as "the State of California".

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at April 13, 2012 02:28 PM (QTHTd)

83 Nevada went blue last time because the massive black community in Vegas turned out to vote for a black president. That enthusiasm is gone. IN addition, Nevada's other massive community - the Mormons - will swing Nevada red.
Bank on it.Posted by: Sgt. York


Have any data on that? 

NY 2008 exit polls show that the NV black vote for the Dem's only increased by 16% as opposed to the Hispanic vote for Dem's that increased by 33%.

Considering how blacks are roughly 8.5% of NV and hispanics are 22%, there may be a problem with your conclusion.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at April 13, 2012 02:29 PM (qfooS)

84 jwb7605- I sure did. Boulder's council is going to call for citizens' concerns though -

BAHAHAHA! Ow, my poor spleen

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at April 13, 2012 02:29 PM (QTHTd)

85 So it's the same map since 2000.
We have to retake the southeast/midatlantic (NC/VA) and win Fl and OH.

We keep losing ground in the southwest.

Utah is our bulwark. But Nevada and Colorado keep getting bluer.

Of course, if we ever breakthrough the industrial midwest we are golden. They keep getting redder.

So keep shitting on "flyover" country you socialist motherfuckers.

Posted by: Muhammad the False Prophet at April 13, 2012 02:30 PM (ZPrif)

86

Gingrich has proven himself as being the same unattractive fat egotistical backstabbing bastard he was 14 years ago.

Nice to know nothing has changed.

Posted by: TexasJew at April 13, 2012 02:32 PM (Bughn)

87 California sucks.  They get to vote themselves into perpetual bailouts by the rest of us.

Posted by: ryukyu at April 13, 2012 02:33 PM (MOHSR)

88 Gingrich has proven himself as being the same unattractive fat egotistical backstabbing bastard he was 14 years ago.
Nice to know nothing has changed.

Posted by: TexasJew at April 13, 2012 06:32 PM (Bughn)

 

Add opportunist

Posted by: The Jackhole at April 13, 2012 02:33 PM (nTgAI)

89 Re: Nevada. Obama lost the white-hispanic vote...what remains to be seen if if he will lose the brown-hispanic vote.

Curse me for my racism. But I am a white-white. And do not know any better. And can not do any better.

Posted by: Conn. Moron at April 13, 2012 02:34 PM (K5uyW)

90 Virginia keeps getting bluer.

Gonna be really tough if Virginia is now a permanent swing state.

Posted by: Muhammad the False Prophet at April 13, 2012 02:38 PM (ZPrif)

91 Sigh. I don't want PA to be this year's "hype state".

Keep in mind we already kicked Arlene Sphincter, and Rick Santorum to the curb once...so I don't think we're all that blue-leaning at the moment. Most of the people in my community want jobs, and a return to energy prices of a few years ago.  Even with the mild winter, don't think for a moment we didn't notice the 33 percent increase in gas/electric prices over the last couple of years. The cost of heating my home to a modest 65 day/60night has gone from 312 dollars a month, to 421 dollars a month. It used to cost me 80 dollars per week to fill my car, now it's costing me 135.

We notice this shit. Even the union guys. PA is gonna be a hard sell for Obama.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at April 13, 2012 02:40 PM (L7hol)

92 So, mittens is projected to carry none of his three home states?


Posted by: Mark E at April 13, 2012 02:41 PM (DQZIQ)

93 Obama must be seeing the same map and is pondering how the hell he's going to get to 272 electoral votes.  All the toss up states should be friendly to Romney.  Nevada, Colorado, New Jersey, Minnesota aren't strong Obama states and could swing to Romney. 
No wonder he is losing his cool.  This map shows an easy path for Romeny to win the Presidency and a hard path for Obama.

Posted by: rich at April 13, 2012 02:46 PM (f3GW1)

94 In a poll with a 46% Dem sampling, Obama only gets 46% of the vote?  Dude.

Posted by: JonathanEllis at April 13, 2012 02:50 PM (BdzEV)

95 Take out SF and LA and I'm solid red baby.

Posted by: CA begging for help at April 13, 2012 02:53 PM (wAQA5)

96 I love the taste of sweaty testicles.

Posted by: Greg at April 13, 2012 02:55 PM (J3Ovp)

97 For the first time ever with the default moderate smoothing, Pollster has Romney caught up to Obama:

huff.to/I9Y4eR

Posted by: JonathanEllis at April 13, 2012 02:57 PM (BdzEV)

98 Wait a minute.  Where's my other 7 states?

Posted by: Barry O'Genius at April 13, 2012 03:02 PM (wAQA5)

99 Can we just stop pretending that MI is a toss up?

MI will go Obambi. Does anyone here doubt that?

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at April 13, 2012 03:05 PM (L7hol)

100 Who do I have to blow to change the Republican color from Red to Purple.  Red is the color of warning and alarm.  Purple is a centrist color that combines Blue and Red.

Just because the MSM assigned us Red does that mean we have to go along?

Posted by: Steve O at April 13, 2012 03:07 PM (Orxpy)

101 @104
RCP doesn't show one poll of likely voters where Obama gets 50% in MI:
bit.ly/npi2Iu

Posted by: JonathanEllis at April 13, 2012 03:10 PM (BdzEV)

102 This is why we needed this primary over with, if Romney had to slug it out with Santorum over the next two months, Obama would be leading right now and the election would seem hopeless.

Obama and the MSM WANT people to think Romney doesn't stand a chance, what's sick is how many conservatives trumpet this meme.

You put a strong running mate (think Rubio) and I think you could see a comfortable victory for Romney, especially since it's looking like the economy is heading downward again.

Posted by: BradleyHarm at April 13, 2012 03:14 PM (0kf1G)

103

Hey CAC:

Why don't you see if Ace is okay with you just posting one of these every day?  I mean, instead of in the sidebar.  The sidebar posts you do on polling are kind of hard to understand... kind of a lot of info for such a small space.

They are pretty cool posts... I think most people like them.  Also, more fodder for comments.

Posted by: dan-O at April 13, 2012 03:15 PM (sWycd)

104 Missouri should be a lock for Romney, given that they voted McCain in '08.

Maybe they hold residual anti-Mormon sentiments from the 1840s. The governor Lilburn Boggs did order them "exterminated", in what must have been the most colossal Alpha Male pronouncement in that state's history. I mean, damn.

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at April 13, 2012 03:16 PM (QTHTd)

105 dan-O, I think once a week for the pre-convention period is fine.

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at April 13, 2012 03:17 PM (QTHTd)

106 What should give the Obama campaign a case of shits is that, for the one Missouri we have, they're defending fucking Washington State and Massachusetts.

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at April 13, 2012 03:18 PM (QTHTd)

107 @polynikes: " California is like a woman." California is like a trans-gendered womyn fights against heteronormative and andronomative opression... Sigh...

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 13, 2012 03:22 PM (XvHmy)

108 MI will go Obambi. Does anyone here doubt that?


We certainly don't.....

Posted by: UAW at April 13, 2012 03:22 PM (4tcuE)

109 #81 needs to retype post in Spanish

Posted by: old glazier at April 13, 2012 03:24 PM (KcINh)

110 @108
The figures in the sidebar don't change much day to day.

Posted by: JonathanEllis at April 13, 2012 03:37 PM (BdzEV)

111 113.

Considering the GOP hasn't won it in over 20 years, probably not, but that's sort of like saying Obama probably won't win Arizona.  Who cares?  We don't need Michigan to win. 

I will say this, Romney will likely do better than Bush did, and Obama will not be able to ignore it.

The more likely swing states are OH, PA, WI, New Hampshire, Nevada and Iowa.  All of these are within reach and if Obama loses any of them, he likely will not get reelected.

Posted by: BradleyHarm at April 13, 2012 03:38 PM (0kf1G)

112 The map in the sidebar could be about 25% bigger and still fit the column.

Posted by: JonathanEllis at April 13, 2012 03:40 PM (BdzEV)

113 The demographic turnout will be much different than it was in 2008- fewer black, fewer young, more elderly. The D/R/I breakdown will look much closer to 2010 than to 2008. It's funny how almost none of the mainstream polls are taking this into account as they comically over-sample democratic voters. Bottom line: Romney must win Ohio AND Virginia PLUS one of the following: New Hampshire, Iowa, Colorado, Nevada. Forget about Penn, Mich, Wis. We should have done the EC splitting plan in Penn. There's still time.

Posted by: Sean at April 13, 2012 03:47 PM (i+f5S)

114 95 Virginia keeps getting bluer.

Gonna be really tough if Virginia is now a permanent swing state.

Posted by: Muhammad the False Prophet at April 13, 2012 06:38 PM (ZPrif)


Not really. It went deep red in 09 for McDonnell. Deep red again in 2010 in the House races, and deep red in the state legislature elections in 2011. I was wondering why Bambi was running attack ads on Mittens in Virginia in the last month, then the Roanoke College poll came out with Mittens with the lead. Virginia will be red again this year, and Allen will beat Kaine for the Senate seat.


Posted by: MrCaniac at April 13, 2012 03:52 PM (1grxW)

115 Can the Penn Legislature still adopt the Electoral College splitting plan like Iowa? It would net us at least 10 extra EC votes every election.

Posted by: Sean at April 13, 2012 03:53 PM (i+f5S)

116 118.

I agree, and I'm hoping there's some secret, last minute plan in PA to change the EC votes, but it's probably a pipedream.  If PA pulled that off, the Democrats would be shut out of the White House for a LONG time.

If Bush can come within a point of PA though, I think Romney though has a good shot, maybe even better than in Ohio.

Posted by: BradleyHarm at April 13, 2012 03:54 PM (0kf1G)

117
What you're forgetting is how likeable I am. Look at those numbers vs. Romneybot. I'm golden! Fore! You better hire some good programmers bitchez!

Posted by: Mr. Likeable at April 13, 2012 04:24 PM (zpqa2)

118 Florida will go GOP this election.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky: ABO 2012 at April 13, 2012 04:29 PM (baL2B)

119 I think we should all order absentee ballots for Andrew Brietbart writing in Dem as your Party of course else you may not get it!

Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at April 13, 2012 04:38 PM (nonzP)

120 I don't think IA vote splits Ne does, like two electors from commie/colored east Omaha

Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at April 13, 2012 04:39 PM (nonzP)

121 125. You're right. So does Maine even though it never matters with Maine.

Posted by: Sean at April 13, 2012 04:43 PM (i+f5S)

122 My 100% guaranteed, no-holds-barred lock of the week or your money back: Oklahoma goes for Romney, although Obama might actually win one or two counties this time. In 2008 every county went McCain. Posted by: Grim Romney: Absolutely. Any county: Wouldn't think so. In fact, Okla was the 1st state primary this year to have a Dem delegate *not* for Obama. Old-style Dems in deepest darkest Oklahoma. In California, they'd be called Republicans. And if O is re-elected, Gov Fallin may be a very important figure in the subsequent civil wars. Metaphorical wars, I mean, of course. Of course.

Posted by: A Mindful Webworker at April 13, 2012 04:45 PM (lBpVP)

123 Who do I have to blow to change the Republican color from Red to Purple. Red is the color of warning and alarm. Purple is a centrist color that combines Blue and Red. Posted by: Steve O Used to be the other 'way 'round. Somebody sometime changed it, and it's wrong. But not purple, please; leave that to the SEIU and the mauve-lovers. The Red Flag has a hammer and sickle. Blue stands for the Republic. (Suddenly have the urge to yell at kids to get off my lawn!)

Posted by: A Mindful Webworker at April 13, 2012 04:51 PM (lBpVP)

124 They changed it in the news because red reminded people of communism and the Democrats didn't care for people to be reminded of it. Particularly as hard left as the party has gotten and how many of them are socialists. I mean registered members of the Socialist party. Some are even registered Communists.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 13, 2012 05:08 PM (r4wIV)

125 By the way Oregon should be more blue. There may be a lot of counties that will vote Romney but more than half the population of the entire state lives in Portland and it will vote for Obama seven or eight times each.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 13, 2012 05:11 PM (r4wIV)

126 The whole red-blue thing used to change every election, but after the 2000 election, the media decided to keep it red for GOP because some former Dem operative said that the red states reminded him of the blood flowing from lynching and other violence. I guess he didn't realize that it is the blue sections of red states that have the violence.

Posted by: MrCaniac at April 13, 2012 05:13 PM (1grxW)

127 >>>Maine sucks. I live here and the 2nd District and the way the things has been gerrymandered would even make Eldridge Gerry blush.

Come visit us here in Maryland sometime.  Or failing that, pull up a map and look at its Congressional districts and see if you still feel like complaining.  MD went from having four Republican congressmen in 2000 (Morella, Gilchrist, Ehrlich, Bartlett) to probably only having one after 2012, and all thanks to the magic of gerrymandering.

Posted by: Jeff B. at April 13, 2012 05:18 PM (hIWe1)

128 "If you don't vote for Romney, don't ever blame anyone for the shitstorm that follows an Obama re-election."

THIS.

Posted by: jocon307 at April 13, 2012 05:50 PM (bbVJG)

129

Best map I've seen so far. Beats the hell out of what they've got at RCP. Still, some quibbles. I make Nevada Lean Romney, Colorado a tossup, Michigan lean Obama, Iowa a tossup, Indiana like Missouri sb Likely Romney, Arizona likely Romney. Washington & Oregon have just enough Mormons to make it slightly interesting. All told, Romney helps us in NH, NV, MI, WA, OR, AZ. Hurts us in NC, FL, CO, IA, WV, OH & maybe VA. Between his Mormonism and his appeal to self-styled moderate, civilized suburbanites, I have to admit that Romney is not without some tactical strengths, mostly in some smaller states plus MI.

Posted by: smokedaddy at April 13, 2012 06:50 PM (lTmpG)

130 Help?

Posted by: California at April 13, 2012 06:59 PM (DQHjw)

131 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at April 13, 2012 08:38 PM (7W3wI)

132 I already put in for a vacation day on November 8th. I'll be drinking the night before for better or worse.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at April 14, 2012 12:35 AM (fiXQh)

133 Blue stands for stability, and cool.  There's a reason banks and IBM like to associate themselves with blue.

What other colors are there besides Purple? 

Some other group has green.  We don't want yellow, black, or white.  Orange would not be an improvement. 

We should be Purple.  And the Democrats should be Pink.

Posted by: Steve O at April 14, 2012 05:11 AM (Orxpy)

134 "They changed it in the news because red reminded people of communism and the Democrats didn't care for people to be reminded of it. Particularly as hard left as the party has gotten and how many of them are socialists. I mean registered members of the Socialist party. Some are even registered Communists."

 -- The American Communist Party recently announced that zero members of Congress and the Senate are currently members of the Communist Party.  Not even Bernie Sanders.  Somehow that's supposed to mean that they're not communists, or that they don't favor central planning over the free market.

Posted by: Steve O at April 14, 2012 05:14 AM (Orxpy)

135 This could be the sort of race where the Democrats do more to hurt themselves than anything positive from the Republicans. How many more Hilary Rosen moles do we have out there?

Posted by: norrin radd at April 14, 2012 01:17 PM (7fQTl)

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