June 21, 2012

#AOSHQDD : Interim Presidential Race Forecast, Part Two
— CAC

Post-Wisconsin I've been working with JohnE on expanding the Decision Desk to 50-state coverage. In the meantime, I've kept my eye on polling data and will continue to reveal the current projection of the Presidential race.

Today, we introduce the likely states, those which will go to the indicated party with the exception of a 1988/1980/1964 landslide.

With this category added, Romney leads 206 to Obama's 168 electoral votes, a total of 374 EV's not contested in the race in any reasonable scenario. How do the remaining states fall? I'll roll those subsequent maps out in coming threads.

Map below the fold.

OBAMAROMNEYLIKELYSTATES

Dark red/blue states are the solids we showed in the kickoff thread, bright red/blue states are the likely, just for clarity.

In case it isn't self explanatory, President Obama predicably picks up Massachusetts, Connecticut, New Jersey and New Mexico. Romney gains Indiana, North Carolina, Missouri and Arizona. The biggest change in status amongst these states over the last decade is with Missouri and New Mexico- swing states of yesteryear, the former a bellweather, that have drifted rather obviously into a particular camp.

Like in the previous thread, if you are available to cover on election night in November (as part of an expanded project a la what we did with Wisconsin), contact me via twitter email, as it would be easier to keep addys around: theoneandonlyfinn at gmail.com. Mention your state. Also if you volunteered in the last thread shoot me a message to get the list growing. If you live in a solid/likely state, you can still contribute with senate or house races, but you will probably be assigned counties in the closest swing state to you to help report.

Posted by: CAC at 11:18 AM | Comments (56)
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1 Do you need help covering Florida? Is there anything I can do?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 21, 2012 11:18 AM (piMMO)

2 you mean racist forecast don't you?

Posted by: Thunderb at June 21, 2012 11:18 AM (Dnbau)

3
What are we looking at here, twenty-thirty parts?

Posted by: soothsayer at June 21, 2012 11:20 AM (9Q7Nu)

4 What's up with all the white?

Posted by: Greyhound at June 21, 2012 11:20 AM (7+pP9)

5 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 21, 2012 11:21 AM (8y9MW)

6 I would have thought WA would be a likely Dem state.  Has not voted Rep for President since Reagan.  Has had 2 Dem senators since 2000.

Posted by: AndrewsDad at June 21, 2012 11:22 AM (C2//T)

7 All thematic maps need a legend!

Posted by: Geography Professor at June 21, 2012 11:22 AM (7+pP9)

8 For those who missed the prior thread...  What do all the pretty colors mean?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 21, 2012 11:22 AM (8y9MW)

9 What are the EV totals for each category?

Posted by: Cicero at June 21, 2012 11:23 AM (QKKT0)

10 With so much white in this map, it is obviously racist.

Posted by: NWConservative at June 21, 2012 11:23 AM (M1gmo)

11 Political scientists make shitty cartographers.

Posted by: Man Who Drew Maps for a Living at June 21, 2012 11:24 AM (7+pP9)

12

The way I read the map, the white areas are those states that are the swing states.  The people there haven't indicated which way they might go in November.  I'm in Ohio, in Cleveland and my neighbors are the idiots who kept sending Dennis Kucinich back to congress year after year.  G*d only knows which way they'll vote in November!!

Posted by: Elinor at June 21, 2012 11:24 AM (ENZaj)

13

Showing those states in white.....that will probably be declared...'Raacist!'

 

Nice map, CAC.

Posted by: wheatie at June 21, 2012 11:24 AM (M2JTb)

14
So you reckon you can make EV forecasts with a Romney/? ticket?

Posted by: soothsayer at June 21, 2012 11:25 AM (9Q7Nu)

15 WA, OR & MN are not "likely" states for Obama? I hope you're right but this feels like a Winston Wolf moment.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at June 21, 2012 11:25 AM (+lsX1)

16 In 2004--the local media in Nevada was wondering why the Big Media was not calling Nevada. They had it called hours before the national media did.

Posted by: tasker at June 21, 2012 11:25 AM (r2PLg)

17
If Mitt chooses Rubio, the whole complexion of the EV map changes.

Same thing holds true if Mitt chooses Portman or Pawlenty.

Posted by: soothsayer at June 21, 2012 11:26 AM (9Q7Nu)

18 Nevada might be the nail biter again. So it would be nice to get Nevada morons.

Posted by: tasker at June 21, 2012 11:26 AM (r2PLg)

19 When's the boobies thread?

Posted by: © Sponge at June 21, 2012 11:26 AM (UK9cE)

20 Do you need help covering Florida? Is there anything I can do?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 21, 2012 03:18 PM (piMMO)

 

Florida is dead to us, look at the map

Posted by: The Jackhole at June 21, 2012 11:27 AM (nTgAI)

21 And in Florida always remember--particularly on election night-- The Panhandle votes Conservative--and they are in a later time zone.

Posted by: tasker at June 21, 2012 11:29 AM (r2PLg)

22 CAC:

You need a different base map, one with state borders in black. One that then allows a program to "paint" the color of each state.

Something like that shouldn't cost an arm and a leg.

Posted by: Leroy Pen at June 21, 2012 11:32 AM (7+pP9)

23

CAC,

I can explain Missouri pretty easily in one word: Illinois.

In more words: Lower taxes/Cost of Living.

In still more words: Many of the people in the bistate region are tired of being Chicago's whipping boy/income source and as Springfield continues to pander to Chicago (raising taxes on just about everything) many of the more conservative Illinoisians are jumping ship to Big MO.  This offsets the previously large City democratic votes (in KC and STL as well as to a lesser extent Congressional District 2, now defunct).  The outstate has always gone Solidly R.

You'd have to ask Chemjeff or someone else in that region if a reverse trend is happening around KC (with the democrats fleeing the horrific school system for Kansas suburbs.)

Posted by: tsrblke at June 21, 2012 11:34 AM (22rSN)

24

1) What are the duties of a volunteer?

2) As a Baltimoron, I'm pretty sure I have to leave the state to find a Republican.

Posted by: Hal at June 21, 2012 11:34 AM (MftY/)

25 Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet?

Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 21, 2012 11:35 AM (136wp)

26 E-mail sent.

Posted by: ATaLien at June 21, 2012 11:35 AM (2p0vz)

27 On this map it looks like California is giving the United States one large boner, or flipping the bird at Japan.  One or the other.

Posted by: MM at June 21, 2012 11:37 AM (ZMhO7)

28 MN, WA and OR aren't "likely" or "solid" Democratic states?! Is this an oversight of 3 states and 29 EC votes, or are we feeling really optimistic and saying they're only "leaning" Democratic at this point? (Yeah, MN hasn't gone GOP since '72, but sure, it's in play. Why not.)

Posted by: GOPPartyReptile at June 21, 2012 11:41 AM (zcCrd)

29 a one, and a two, and a three, and a four...


If you want our Romney in, here's a state you need to win
I'm the map!
I'm the map, I'm the map
If you want a state to flip, let me help give you a tip
I'm the map!
I'm the map, I'm the map
I'm the map, I'm the map, I'm the map, I'm the map
I'm the map, I'm the map, I'm the map, I'm the map
I'm the map!!!

Posted by: Uncledave at June 21, 2012 11:49 AM (nJ32z)

30 Florida is dead to us, look at the map


****

Perhaps I should have asked whether he needs any help putting Florida on the map.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 21, 2012 11:49 AM (piMMO)

31 On this map it looks like California is giving the United States one large boner, or flipping the bird at Japan. One or the other.


****

So they're screwing Arizona?

Figures.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 21, 2012 11:51 AM (piMMO)

32 CAC:

Check out this Flash map for $60.00 with a money back offer if it doesn't work for you.

Highly customizable. Looks like something you could use:

http://www.flashusamap.com/

Posted by: Leroy Pen Nib at June 21, 2012 11:52 AM (7+pP9)

33 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at June 21, 2012 11:53 AM (Xb3hu)

34

@30

I can tell someone's been exploring with Dora...

 

I think MN is in play.  It has voted for Republicans for governor and senator within the very recent past and even came within a trunkful of found ballots from re-electing a Republican senator in 2008 during an otherwise bad year for Republicans.  If it weren't for a spoiler independent candidate, the R's could have had control of both houses of the state legislature and the governorship in 2010.  I still think it will stay stuck on stupid for another election cycle, but it ain't the same state that brought us Mondale anymore.

Posted by: MM at June 21, 2012 11:56 AM (ZMhO7)

35 Whatever happened to the Intrade troll?

Posted by: mediumheadboy at June 21, 2012 11:56 AM (x2CNJ)

36 CAC:

I'm willing to help you with mapping if you need some help. You crunch the numbers and I can try to help with maps.

I don't know if it will work, but it seems like a definite possibility.

Posted by: Leroy Pen Nib at June 21, 2012 11:56 AM (7+pP9)

37

On this map it looks like California is giving the United States one
large boner, or flipping the bird at Japan. One or the other.


****

So they're screwing Arizona?

Figures.

 

Actually, I'm picturing Arizona as California's scrotum.

Posted by: MM at June 21, 2012 11:58 AM (ZMhO7)

38 The Presidential Race is 50% African Black and 50% American White. The Truth of the matter.  Not that it matters a hill of beans to anyone on the Right.  We don't categorize people the way the Left does.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at June 21, 2012 11:59 AM (ndlFj)

39 Shit.

Cavuto just opened up with news that it looks like every major U.S. bank will be downgraded by at least 1 point.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 21, 2012 12:01 PM (piMMO)

40 @40 Those of us with small children curse you. I'll have that tune in my head for a few hours.

Posted by: Pete at June 21, 2012 12:01 PM (YfttB)

41 Oops I meant post #30. I denounce myself.

Posted by: Pete at June 21, 2012 12:04 PM (YfttB)

42 I'll cover state #57. Just tell me which one it is.

I could cover the state I currently live in, RI. Say, why don't I get it out the way now in case I'm busy in November. RI goes to the SCOAMF with 68% voting present for him. Believe me, that will be close enough to the real number.

Posted by: chuckR at June 21, 2012 12:04 PM (XLu7l)

43 I'll volunteer for Nevada. I'll be obsessively following returns, &c. there anyway. Twitter: @ThePoliticalHat

Posted by: The Political Hat at June 21, 2012 12:04 PM (XvHmy)

44  many of the more conservative Illinoisians are jumping ship to Big MO. 

Posted by: tsrblke at June 21, 2012 03:34 PM (22rSN)


Is that true?  Because one typically hears that liberals are the ones mostly fleeing places like CA and NY to escape taxes and unfortunately infect their new states with their political views.

Posted by: Uncledave at June 21, 2012 12:10 PM (nJ32z)

45 "Interim Presidential Race Forecast, Part Two" Don't you mean "Interim Presidential Racism Forecast?"

Posted by: WeekendAtBernankes at June 21, 2012 12:22 PM (KIZk3)

46 The fact that neither MN nor WI is solidly blue should tell you something.  The times, they are a changin'...

I can tell you from growing up in MN that the state has changed since I left in 1992.  It is gradually going purple, despite electing Whackjob Dayton as Governor.  Can't wait to see Stuart Smalley pack his bags to go back home to New York City in 2014.

Shadenfreude, its what's for breakfast!

Posted by: Exurban Doug at June 21, 2012 12:29 PM (gD956)

47

Posted by: Uncledave at June 21, 2012 04:10 PM (nJ32z)

Well keep in mind that we're talking minor relocation from the suburban areas on the IL side to areas on the MO side.

And Southern IL (extreme Southern Chicago if you prefer) is actually a highly Red area, its' just they get outvoted by the Libs in Chi-town every election.  So there aren't tons of liberals ready to flee Southern Illinois, but there are enough middle class conservatives willing to relocate across the river that it's causing a bit of a shift.

Furthermore, I don't even think it's a "fleeing" per se (like what you're seeing in CA and NY).  These people were going to relocate anyway (the standard "house shuffle" as it were) and when they do so, they choose the lower taxed MO side of the river (since many of them likely work in MO as well.)

Posted by: tsrblke at June 21, 2012 12:32 PM (22rSN)

48 Latest Quinnipiac poll out today shows Obama up safely in Florida, beating Romney by a 46-42% margin.

Posted by: Greg at June 21, 2012 01:12 PM (j+Xk7)

49 49 That's not a safe margin. The margin of error in the poll is probably 3% anyway.

Posted by: dave c at June 21, 2012 01:19 PM (JQXSR)

50 Greg, as always, conveniently leaves out that Quinnipiac shifted from R+3 to D+3 for this poll, giving Obama his lead. He'd have a deficit in even polling. But hey, he has been consistently wrong race after race- Prosser/Klopp, Walker's recall, etc. So it is a good omen he trolls yet again.

Posted by: CAC at June 21, 2012 01:29 PM (qzfLu)

51 I'll go ahead and cover DC now...obama wins.

Posted by: prodigal at June 21, 2012 01:47 PM (n5C+L)

52 All of America should be a beautiful dark blue on this map. But since many of you are enslaved to the Republican war machine and Wall Street, it won't be. This is why Vermont should secede and become a protectorate of the United Nations.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at June 21, 2012 02:10 PM (aR5oH)

53 Have there been any polls showing MN (or WA or OR) as being particularly close, or are we basing this optimism on, "Hey, screw it, they can't POSSIBLY vote for this jerk again!"?

 Not to go full Eeyore, but I'm not sure how CO isn't a "likely" for Obama, as opposed to a "lean" or "toss up". The polls of CO have been closing as of late, but Romney has yet to take a lead. (Admittedly, RCP has CO as a toss-up, but RCP also has GA and SC as only "leaning" Romney. They're pretty cautious...and even THEY have WA as being Likely Obama.)

Also, I was hearing #30 to the tune of Anthrax's "I'm the Man", but I don't have kids, so....

Posted by: GOPPartyReptile at June 21, 2012 02:13 PM (zcCrd)

54 I just cant figure why some of y`all don`t get it. Florida is red, and for some reason they like Romney there, even the dims. Look at the makeup of the State Senate and House, 2-1 R or there abouts. I`m in CO and know that shit. By the way, CO is going red, dollar to a donut.

Posted by: rightlysouthern at June 21, 2012 03:44 PM (gpi83)

55 53 -Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT Gold, Jerry, Comedy Gold!

Posted by: Mr. Fancy Poofy Pants at June 21, 2012 06:23 PM (1JlG0)

56 Sad to see AZ as anything but a deep red. It's thanks to all the California refugees ignorant of what sank the dying ship in their rearview mirror.

Posted by: joewm315 at June 22, 2012 12:12 AM (oGSBO)

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