July 19, 2012
— CAC Bad News: Obama's constant screaming has pulled two states out from under Romney back into toss-up status.
Good News: Obama's constant screaming and whining has apparently cost him a considerable pile of states as well:

If this is the best Obama can achieve with mostly unanswered negative ads and with Romney holding back the warchest... August, September and October are going to be quite fun. Especially once Pennsylvania starts turning pink...
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Posted by: AndrewsDad at July 19, 2012 02:29 PM (C2//T)
Posted by: JDTAY at July 19, 2012 02:30 PM (a0nis)
Posted by: steevy at July 19, 2012 02:30 PM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: izoneguy at July 19, 2012 02:30 PM (hbRed)
What about Mexico?
I think Barky has probably got the Mexican Vote now.....since he's giving them food stamps too.
Posted by: wheatie at July 19, 2012 02:31 PM (MbB0O)
Teh SCOAMF is gonna be down here bleating at a local kollidge tomorrow. Don't know if anyone is going to protest there, but if there is, I'd go.
brb...
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 19, 2012 02:31 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: JDTAY at July 19, 2012 02:31 PM (a0nis)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 19, 2012 02:34 PM (DuH+r)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at July 19, 2012 02:34 PM (nUH8H)
Posted by: Kasper Hauser at July 19, 2012 02:35 PM (HqpV0)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at July 19, 2012 02:35 PM (2BJuW)
Posted by: Hrothgar (CJSC Designated Serf) at July 19, 2012 02:36 PM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at July 19, 2012 02:37 PM (2BJuW)
Posted by: Dr Spank at July 19, 2012 02:37 PM (bb5Xq)
Posted by: the pink cracker formerly known as the hobbit Donna at July 19, 2012 02:37 PM (ZHge+)
Posted by: JDTAY at July 19, 2012 02:39 PM (a0nis)
Posted by: Madamemayhem at July 19, 2012 02:40 PM (iRgZG)
Posted by: Fritz at July 19, 2012 02:40 PM (0ZJ5N)
Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at July 19, 2012 02:41 PM (niW49)
Posted by: Fritz at July 19, 2012 06:40 PM (0ZJ5N)
If they did it by county, there would be blue dots surrounded by red in both states.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 19, 2012 02:41 PM (z1N6a)
In the case of NM, it's a backward shithole that has only two areas where people work and produce, the northwest and southeast corners. In the case of Colorado, it's Californians.
Posted by: huerfano at July 19, 2012 02:42 PM (bAGA/)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at July 19, 2012 02:42 PM (2BJuW)
Posted by: JDTAY at July 19, 2012 02:42 PM (a0nis)
Posted by: tasker at July 19, 2012 02:44 PM (r2PLg)
Which is no knock on CAC, whose work I trust at least as much as any pollster.
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at July 19, 2012 06:42 PM (2BJuW)
Right - look at Wisconsin, that just spat in the face of Obama and his Union Drones a little while ago, supposedly a pretty blue.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 19, 2012 02:44 PM (z1N6a)
Posted by: steevy at July 19, 2012 02:45 PM (6o4Fb)
I can: it's easier than working.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ trapped at the office with no beer at July 19, 2012 06:38 PM (ZKzrr)
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If the SCOAMT wins again, I'm quiting my job, collecting my severence, going on SS. There won't be any reason to work anymore. America will die.
Posted by: Soona at July 19, 2012 02:46 PM (CE/55)
Posted by: mallfly at July 19, 2012 02:46 PM (bJm7W)
We got some rain today. It watered the twenty-foot round "O" logo those of us in the Democratic Womens' Garden Club made on the town square out of red, white, and blue carnations.
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at July 19, 2012 02:46 PM (x3vvv)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at July 19, 2012 06:37 PM (2BJuW)
This 271-269 stuff is not historically likely or common. Yet it is now supposedly the new normal.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 19, 2012 02:47 PM (z1N6a)
Posted by: Fred Willard at July 19, 2012 02:47 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ trapped at the office with no beer at July 19, 2012 02:48 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: tasker at July 19, 2012 02:48 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: newrouter at July 19, 2012 02:49 PM (kfeRL)
Posted by: maddogg at July 19, 2012 02:49 PM (OlN4e)
And McCaskill's out, even if the GOP runs a ham sandwich against her.
Posted by: Palandine at July 19, 2012 02:50 PM (g7D8V)
Posted by: Barky the Magnificent of Oration at July 19, 2012 02:50 PM (kSaUf)
Posted by: mallfly at July 19, 2012 02:50 PM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Cicero at July 19, 2012 02:51 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: steevy at July 19, 2012 02:52 PM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: tasker at July 19, 2012 02:52 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: mallfly at July 19, 2012 02:52 PM (bJm7W)
But, the JEF assured us that TX would be a swing state soon.
I'm not sure if he meant country-western swing or swing politically.
Posted by: RoyalOil at July 19, 2012 02:53 PM (kSaUf)
Posted by: cajun carrot at July 19, 2012 02:53 PM (uG50m)
Posted by: Soona at July 19, 2012 02:53 PM (CE/55)
@3
In CO, it's the massive influx of Californians fleeing their failed-fucking state but voting for the same shit that brough CA to its knees in the first place.
Posted by: ATaLien at July 19, 2012 02:53 PM (2p0vz)
Most of the local pundits down here are saying that the I-4 corridor is where the election will be won or lost (Daytona to Tampa). I can't really argue with that, north FL is pretty red, south is pretty blue. The biggest thing I see is 2010 that saw Col. West, Rubio, Scott, Webster (replaced the Idiot Alan Grayson) and a lot of local Pubbies gain seats.
This gives me hope that FL is going for Mitt. An awful lot of my friends who stupidly voted for teh SCOAMF are saying they won't this time. Damn, it's nice when people wake up.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 19, 2012 02:54 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at July 19, 2012 02:54 PM (2BJuW)
Posted by: mallfly at July 19, 2012 02:55 PM (bJm7W)
I could have sworn there was just a new Nanzi Pelosi post. Must be hallucinatin'<<<<
CAC bumped Ace's ass like a fat girl full of GHB-flavored Boone's Farm on prom night.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 19, 2012 02:55 PM (MmK+i)
Posted by: Axelrod at July 19, 2012 02:55 PM (r2PLg)
Communists
Welfare hos
Crony Obama Capitalists
The mentally ill"
Don't for get us! ~ Signed, the dead, multi-voters, cartoon characters, "undocumented" workers and non-existent people.
Posted by: Mr_Write at July 19, 2012 02:56 PM (VJUQK)
The time machine ran out of laser power.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at July 19, 2012 02:56 PM (Gk3SS)
Meanwhile, New York City unemployment rate is back up to 10 percent.
http://tinyurl.com/7d6t6w4
Posted by: YIKES! at July 19, 2012 02:56 PM (0xil9)
Posted by: Soona at July 19, 2012 06:53 PM (CE/55)
Especially this early, they always try and push-poll for a while. Hence the "Adults" and "Registered" scams. That is always good for five to ten points the 'right' way.
And with the splits being based from 2008 numbers and ignoring 2010 as an aberration, this is especially absurd. Pollsters totally missed the 2010 wave and seems like they are apt to be doing it again.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 19, 2012 02:57 PM (z1N6a)
Posted by: TrueNorthist at July 19, 2012 02:57 PM (3Aixx)
Um, no.
I'm actually surprised that Romney's got a real solid chance to take VA, tell you the truth. I think he CAN win it in the fall, but I wouldn't rate it as anything better than a tossup (and really more of a slight lean-Dem), and have already constructed my winning scenarios for him around an anticipated loss of the state. (Most likely version: Romney easily bags the Obama states that seem solidly leaning R this year in FL/IN/NC, claws back the real tough swing states of IA, OH, CO, and then takes just ONE of the following: PA, MI, WI, NV, NH.)
People who don't live around here need to get over their previous understanding of Virginia as a solidly "red" state and the cradle of the Confederacy and all that bullshit. Obama's spending binge and commitment to expanding the size and power of the federal government has created a massive economic boom in Northern Virginia: it's pretty much the only place in the entire damn country outside of North Dakota's oil fields where the economic apocalypse of the past four years has barely been felt, because government's been a nonstop growth industry. People have been streaming into NoVA to take federal jobs, and they disproportionately vote Democratic because the Dems are the party of government (in other words, preserving their jobs). Meanwhile, the other demographics coming into NoVa are 1.) Marylanders fleeing that high-tax hellhole and bringing their liberal Montgomery County politics with them; 2.) Latino immigrants.
States change. Virginia is one of them. The state you knew for the last 50 years has already been irrevocably altered. It ain't coming back. VA isn't permanently blue or anything -- not yet, at least -- but it's hard sledding for the GOP in Presidential elections with someone like Obama at the top of the ticket in particular, because he also draws heavily upon the significant AA population in places like Hampton Roads, Richmond, and Newport News.
Posted by: Jeff B. at July 19, 2012 02:57 PM (SQO5y)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at July 19, 2012 02:58 PM (2BJuW)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at July 19, 2012 06:54 PM (2BJuW)
Well duh, if you pick newsmen...you'd have better chances picking at random from the floor of the Democratic National Convention.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 19, 2012 02:58 PM (z1N6a)
Posted by: RoyalOil at July 19, 2012 02:59 PM (kSaUf)
Posted by: cajun carrot at July 19, 2012 03:00 PM (uG50m)
Posted by: RoyalOil at July 19, 2012 06:59 PM (kSaUf)
Shift everything red one color, probably is close.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 19, 2012 03:00 PM (z1N6a)
Pure genius on Obama's part...looking hawkish while making it harder for the right-leaning military to vote.
Posted by: Mr_Write at July 19, 2012 03:00 PM (VJUQK)
Posted by: cajun carrot at July 19, 2012 07:00 PM (uG50m)
So he's expecting Democrats to be grateful? That's silly.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 19, 2012 03:01 PM (z1N6a)
amphibious assault ship are to be in the gulf before the election."
Pure genius on Obama's part...looking hawkish while making it harder for the right-leaning military to vote.
Posted by: Mr_Write at July 19, 2012 07:00 PM (VJUQK)
Since he's always late, the attack orders will probably arrive on November 20th.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 19, 2012 03:02 PM (z1N6a)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at July 19, 2012 03:02 PM (2BJuW)
Well, I guess the VA poll question is settled then. JeffB has spoken.
Posted by: Soona at July 19, 2012 03:02 PM (CE/55)
...you'd have better chances for true fairness picking some garbage off the floor of a movie theater.
Posted by: Mr_Write at July 19, 2012 03:03 PM (VJUQK)
Posted by: Justamom at July 19, 2012 03:05 PM (Sptt8)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at July 19, 2012 03:05 PM (2BJuW)
Posted by: cajun carrot at July 19, 2012 03:08 PM (uG50m)
And trap doors to be activated under liars.
But then the debate wouldn't last very long..."
I kinda favor the cartoon consequences approach to presidential debates...drop a large anvil on the head of the first guy that lies.
Hey...I can dream, can't I?!
Posted by: Mr_Write at July 19, 2012 03:08 PM (VJUQK)
"Ear Leader" is a pun comparing SCOAMF to Kim Il Jong. I can't remember where I picked it up.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ trapped at the office with no beer at July 19, 2012 03:09 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: t-bird at July 19, 2012 03:10 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: cajun carrot at July 19, 2012 03:12 PM (uG50m)
66 Jeff B, good points , but the recession is starting to bite even here in northern Virginia. The drop in defense spending - and the impending massive cuts- will hit the Beltway bandits hard.
Obama did pretty well in the other Virginia too. In October 2008 Obama radio ads on country stations featured a Ralph Stanley endorsement. I don't think many Ralph Stanley voters from 2008 will vote for Obama again.
Alexandria here, where are you?
Posted by: Jim in Virginia at July 19, 2012 03:14 PM (jiKVm)
Posted by: Mjölnir the Banhammer from Hell at July 19, 2012 03:14 PM (Jls4P)
Did you read anything I actually wrote?
No, clearly you did not. Because I said that yes, Romney has a real solid chance of winning VA in November. But it sure as hell isn't a given for the GOP. It's a tossup/slight-lean Dem, for the reasons I explained above: rapid, sweeping demographic change over the past 8 years plus 20% black population that is going to vote 97% for Obama.
My real point is how misguided it is for people to look at a state like VA and say "dude, no WAY does Obama win that, it'll vote for Romney by 5%+, it's a historically Red state, after all!" No. It WAS a historically 'red' state. So was Vermont, for that matter (never voted for a non-GOP President before 1992 and STILL has only ever sent one Democrat to the Senate -- that's how rock-ribbed Republican it used to be). Meanwhile Louisiana was a Democratic as it's possible for a state to be until the mid-90s.
States change. States trend towards and away from the parties. We've lost places like CA, VT, IL, and ME, and we're in the process of losing VA and CO, but we're seeing a vast swath of previously blue/blueish states in the midwest swing towards us (MI, WI, PA, MN, and IL have all moved hard toward the GOP on the Congressional level and are reachable for Mitt with the obvious exception of IL, while historical bellwether MO has become so solidly red it's not even being contest by Obama anymore) as if in an almost equal and opposite reaction.
Posted by: Jeff B. at July 19, 2012 03:15 PM (SQO5y)
....Shock collars.
I would love to see shock collars, in the debates.....tied to the 'live fact checking'.
That would be way more entertaining than trap doors or anvils.
We could watch them get zapped every time they lied.
Posted by: wheatie at July 19, 2012 03:16 PM (MbB0O)
Posted by: Justamom at July 19, 2012 03:16 PM (Sptt8)
Posted by: Justamom at July 19, 2012 03:18 PM (Sptt8)
Yikes. Attempted kidnapping of 8 year old girl in Philadelphia. She said she knew how to get away from watching Law and Order Special Victims Unit.
Who lets their 8 year old kid watch SVU?
Posted by: Jim in Virginia at July 19, 2012 03:20 PM (jiKVm)
Potomac, MD actually. But being just over the border, and being far more interested in VA's politics than Maryland's (for obvious reasons as a conservative -- ain't much to talk about here), I'm extremely familiar with the political lay of the land in VA, especially NoVA.
Can I just take this moment to mention that I think Ken Cuccinelli is a guaranteed loser if he gets the GOP nomination for Governor in 2013? It'll be Jerry Kilgore all over again. Except the outcome this time will be Governor Terry friggin' MacAuliffe.
Posted by: Jeff B. at July 19, 2012 03:20 PM (SQO5y)
Posted by: Justamom at July 19, 2012 03:21 PM (Sptt8)
Posted by: toby928© at July 19, 2012 03:26 PM (QupBk)
I agree with Jeff, Virginia of old is no longer with us. It is not lost by any means, but at this time it is no more than a toss up. It is joining the list of states that are controlled by one or two uban areas.
Breaks my heart to see all the Obama stickers in Loudoun, which just a few years ago was a strong national GOP county.
And Jim, you poor bastard....Alexandria is Jim Moran country.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at July 19, 2012 03:27 PM (OHvw4)
Posted by: tasker at July 19, 2012 03:30 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Ed Wood vs Godzilla at July 19, 2012 03:32 PM (pop1z)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at July 19, 2012 03:33 PM (OHvw4)
Posted by: Ed Wood vs Godzilla at July 19, 2012 03:33 PM (pop1z)
Posted by: newrouter at July 19, 2012 06:49 PM (kfeRL)
The way I guesstimate voter enthusiasm here in Penn's Green Wood is the number of Bumper stickers and yard signs. I've seen 5 stickers, no yard signs
Posted by: Ombudsman at July 19, 2012 03:34 PM (zXLtf)
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 19, 2012 03:34 PM (dQKMZ)
Such as, "What hemisphere do you live in?"."
I'm with ya, Justamom, but heck, how will we ever get to the point of adding a simple quiz to the ballot to eliminate idiots when we can't even check voter ID any more.
Posted by: Mr_Write at July 19, 2012 03:38 PM (VJUQK)
Posted by: toby928© at July 19, 2012 03:38 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: mallfly at July 19, 2012 03:39 PM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Ed Wood vs Godzilla at July 19, 2012 03:40 PM (pop1z)
Posted by: ObjectionSustained at July 19, 2012 03:41 PM (WO3mu)
Interesting statistics. Though Alaska can get kinda Murkowski...um... I mean murky, Wyoming is probably the most-red state in the union.
Posted by: Mr_Write at July 19, 2012 03:43 PM (VJUQK)
Posted by: mallfly at July 19, 2012 03:45 PM (bJm7W)
Similar problem here in Washington state, but the GOP here has had that problem for decades. The Repub's candidate for governor seems to be polling pretty well right now, but that is the exception to the rule.
Posted by: Mr_Write at July 19, 2012 03:46 PM (VJUQK)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at July 19, 2012 03:47 PM (OHvw4)
Posted by: And stop calling me Shirley at July 19, 2012 03:49 PM (gL8se)
Posted by: Ed Wood vs Godzilla at July 19, 2012 03:57 PM (pop1z)
Posted by: mallfly
I do not know.
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 19, 2012 03:57 PM (dQKMZ)
Posted by: dragonfly at July 19, 2012 04:07 PM (t8tck)
Posted by: Gordon undead Ramsay at July 19, 2012 04:14 PM (9HhTH)
Posted by: Cindermutha at July 19, 2012 04:57 PM (iVx7a)
Posted by: bluerose75 at July 19, 2012 05:02 PM (HDcKc)
Could you paste the electoral votes in a nice bold font inside all the states for which they'll fit? Or, at least, the 'toss ups'?
OH, PA, VA, FL -alone- seems like a mighty big pile of toss up.
Posted by: Al at July 19, 2012 05:05 PM (MzQOZ)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at July 19, 2012 05:13 PM (gznAu)
Hate to break it to you, but if we're talking in geographic terms, what FL would need in order to make it a solid red state is...um, castration. A 'circumcision' would actually end up slicing away some of the most reliably red parts of the state.
Posted by: Jeff B. at July 19, 2012 05:18 PM (SQO5y)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 19, 2012 05:22 PM (hlDou)
Posted by: toby928© at July 19, 2012 05:26 PM (QupBk)
We got some rain today. It watered the twenty-foot round "O" logo those of us in the Democratic Womens' Garden Club made on the town square out of red, white, and blue carnations.
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at July 19, 2012 06:46 PM (x3vvv)
For Gawds sake go out there on a walk before daylight and put some roundup on those poor thirsty plants! Gawd doesn't like commies.
Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at July 19, 2012 05:46 PM (nonzP)
Posted by: Natasha at July 19, 2012 05:48 PM (pyYXJ)
Posted by: Just a guy at July 19, 2012 07:02 PM (gnViO)
Obama lost our AAA credit rating, ate a dog, ran guns into Mexico, etc. But, I think what will cost him the election is that he ruined Oprah Winfrey.
Posted by: JustLikeDavidHasselhoff at July 19, 2012 08:23 PM (Rwrs+)
Not necessarily. The polls are taking a static picture of how the voter landscape looked a week ago. We're doing a better job of accounting for how the low swing voter approval of Obama (~29%) will likely manifest itself on election day. As Ace just posted today, from Larry Sabato:
"Swing voters had much more negative opinions of President ObamaÂ’s job performance than other voters. In fact, their opinions were almost as negative as those of Romney supporters. Only 11% of swing voters approved of ObamaÂ’s job performance compared with 6% of Romney voters. In contrast, 92% of Obama voters approved of the presidentÂ’s job performance."
We're also accounting for the registered-->likely voter shifts and the developing Romney money advantage. AoS is closer, you will see.
Posted by: Uriah Heep at July 19, 2012 09:23 PM (Wa+Fw)
Nate Silver, heh; his model was once somewhat neat (circa 200
I (and I believe CAC both) projected the 2010 midterms closer than Nate. He's not that special or using anything that extraordinary for those exposed to mathematics.
At this point, he's become a guy who trolls arXiv and JASA for new papers that he can lift their techniques from. But, it's understandable as he's the proprietor of a NYTimes production now -- the site must always have new content, that great newest thing which will drive hits!
For all that impressive bloated model, ask Nate if he's using the reported undecided voter/swing voter approvals of Obama to partition the undecideds sub-set to each candidate?
Posted by: Uriah Heep at July 19, 2012 09:29 PM (Wa+Fw)
Posted by: The dude at July 20, 2012 07:51 AM (/pOsC)
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Posted by: HeatherRadish™ trapped at the office with no beer at July 19, 2012 02:28 PM (ZKzrr)