1 It is later than any dare think. It's on days like today that I am sorry I gave up drugs

2 The midnight pickup was for a photo op to be played globally.  Look, we're doing what you wanted, don't rape our diplomats.  Scary stuff.

3 How fucked are we now?

4 It's on days like today that I am sorry I gave up drugs

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 17, 2012 01:32 PM (j1gX1)

 

 

It's on days like today that I wonder why I never started.

5
Full constitutional protections afforded to combatants captured on the battlefield.

No constitutional protections afforded to Americans exercising free speech.

6

Oh, and because it needs to be said, Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable tyrant.  

 

With a small penis.

7 How fucked are we now? Posted by: maddogg at September 17, 2012 01:32 PM (OlN4e) Well I don't know about you, but I sleep better at night knowing that if the USA gores down, at least we still have the firepower to take the rest of the world with us. That's how I roll

8 It should scare people. And wake them up.


You'd think that, wouldn't ya, but not so much.

9 Hey, its been a good run.

10 Mr Stein needs to learn the difference between "apologist" and "apologizer."

11

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 17, 2012 01:35 PM (j1gX1)

 

 

 

 

Hell, I like it. Lets just fucking SMOD the world. Start fresh with a new species. One that learns from it's mistakes.

12 If Obama is correct, and an F'ing movie caused this, WHY ARE WE DEALING WITH THESE PSYCHOPATHS?   Isn't something wrong with coddling people who don't ever have the self control of an adolescent?

13

Oh nice for Ben Stein to wake up and act like he never supported Barky Odogeater which I'm pretty sure he did. 

 

Thanks a lot for nothing.

 

14

.... a Republic, madame, if you can keep it.

15 Isn't Stein a little, you know, squishy for you Ace?

16 10 Hey, its been a good run. Posted by: Stuff Jefferson Would Have Said, Vol. 3 at September 17, 2012 01:36 PM (QKKT0) I imagine him saying barack obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

17

Ben Stein has been sort of liberal, on social issues mostly.

I remember him sounding rather pro-Barky...back in 2008. 

 

I guess he finally is seeing what is at stake here.

 

18 The article made me so depressed that I had to burn 8 Korans just to cheer up.

19 Ben Stein has been asleep for a long time; it's nice he finally woke up, but maybe he's Freaking Out and protesting too much, as that Hamlet guy said

20

W. T. F.

 

Catholics, Penn State, now Boy Scouts.

 

tinyurl.com/93gfpp8

Evil bastards.

21 He's just now figuring it out? What a braniac.

22 Paddy Chayefsky died way too young. So much incredible material for him. Then again, the Gouvernement and Hollywood would not allow his scripts to ever be made.

23 so the Kos Kooks have just started a new gimmick called "Hell To Pay" it's the same old shit with a new name where the moonbats harass and harangue a particular Republican candidate for those of you in Rio Linde, "Hell to Pay" is the equivalent to issuing a fatwa. The American Left truly is a mirror image of the Islamists.

24 Ben, stiffen up! Obama is not winning and HRC is done. The Dims looking at 2016, Cuomo and Bayh are trying to be centrists. Remember somebody other then the government was buying those 9B rounds of ammo a year, at a minimum, we wont go quiet into the night.

25 Welcome to the party, Stein.  And fuck you for 2008.

26 All true, but this scandal isn't getting so much as a shrug out of the Honey Boo Boo  voters on whom this election seems poised to turn. WTF will it actually take to get the attention of these goons?

27 Oh nice for Ben Stein to wake up and act like he never supported Barky Odogeater which I'm pretty sure he did. Thanks a lot for nothing. Posted by: Boots at September 17, 2012 01:36 PM (neKzn) I don't think he ever supported obama. Show me a link where he did? He may have mistakenly said that obama was not the anti-christ, but i doubt he ever supported him

28 *spit* *cough* Aaaarrrrrrggghhh *spit* damn, I can't seem to get the taste of Zero's dick outta my mouth......

29 If Obama wins, we are fucked. Oh it will start with the "soft" tyranny of Europe. I don't expect that stage to last long. Islamists know that they just have to cry a few more crocodile tears and lob a few more bombs, and we will all be hearing the "most beautiful sound in the world" on loud speakers 5.times a day. Obama and co. have already surrendered. The only question is how quickly the victors will restructure our society.

30 15- 20 years ago he had a good column every month at The American Spectator.  Since then, a few half-funny commercials and a game show, but not much else

31 I started to read the article this morning, but never got past the travelogue on page 1. If he could just skip that crap, his stuff would be much better.

Guess I better go back and read the rest of it now.

32 TFG is... anyone, anyone?  A total SCOAMF.  Which means... anyone, anyone?

33 24 The American Left truly is a mirror image of the Islamists. Posted by: soothsayer at September 17, 2012 01:39 PM (jUytm) Andrew McCarthy has a very good book about the nexus of Islam and the left. They are collaborating very closely to bring us down.

34 Who did Stein vote for in 2008?

35

4It's on days like today that I am sorry I gave up drugs
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 17, 2012 01:32 PM (j1gX1)


It's on days like today that I wonder why I never started.

 

Its on days like this I'm glad that I know how to grow weeds better than vegtables and that I kept my Chemistry books from High School and College.

Thee two most incompetent foreign policy boobs just keep appologising to fanatics that recognise weakness and go for the jugular (or JEF) when they see it.

36 But Obama is a good man who just wants what he thinks is best for our country.

37 "The Grand Jihad: How Islam and the Left Sabotage America" Andy McCarthy's book.

38

The full court press by the media to protect Obama isn't going to work on something so objectively horrifying to the average American, as apologizing to a ravenous mob who just murdered an American ambassador.

Yes, it will take awhile for the public to fully absorb what's gone on here, but it's over for Obama.  We tend to show our true colors in times of crises, and Romney was spot on:  Obama's first (and overriding) instinct is to apologize for an American's supposed misdeeds to Islam.

Romney landslide.

 

 

39

I've been saying this for a while now:  unless Romney/Ryan is going to actually reverse the decline, and not merely slow its progress, we might be better off sticking with Chairman Sotoero.

 

Let's just have the collapse and revolution and get it over with.

40 "The Grand Jihad: How Islam and the Left Sabotage America" and they call us extremists

41 Join me on the moon. Bring women.

42 The Democratic PartyÂ’s national convention in Charlotte, N.C. may have doubled down on insulting the U.S. military community. The Democratic National Committee has already apologized for using a photo of four Soviet-era Russian warships in a giant stage backdrop intended to illustrate the partyÂ’s support for military personnel and veterans. That huge image, visible in the Time Warner Cable Arena during speeches by Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry and retired Admiral John B. Nathman, also depicted a synchronized formation of jet aircraft that convention-goers assumed were American fighter planes. But the F-5 fighter planes in the photo are part of the air force of Turkey, a nation whose government is now jailing journalists and establishing Islam as a state religion. Well if your gonna fuck up and diss America, ya might as well do a good job and go all the way!

43 I didn't realize that Debbie Downer was a 67-ish Jewish man from Malibu / Beverly Hills / the Watergate Hotel

44 Welcome, LibertarianJim Jump on in.

45 All the concern over the "timing" of Romney's comments. Seems to me he had it exactly right.

46 Tfg may surrender the USA to islam but that doesn't mean that I do until I run out of ammo after a month of repeling them, I still have bayonets!

47

Stein mentions Israel and the tide of war rising. 

Yesterday Drudge had an article quoting an IRGC official that Israel would not dare attack Iran for lack of US support.

Ignore whether that's true or not.  The perception increases the chance of war.  At times like this, whatever is going on behind the scenes, Obama should have swallowed his pride (ha, if ever) and made some nice photo ops with Netanyahu and made sure there was no distance in between us.  Instead he openly snubbed him after years of obvious, documented, contempt.  So here we are on the brink of war.  

48 Amen.

49 I still have bayonets! Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at September 17, 2012 01:46 PM (8Hnjw) I got a jap rifle my dad took of a dead one at Iwo Jima

50

34 Who did Stein vote for in 2008?

 

Ben Stein endorsed Al Franken in 2008....according to Stein's Wikipedia page.

Called him...."an impressive guy".

51 So Ben Stein wakes up. The only important question is how many others will wake up and speak up before November?

52 we might be better off sticking with Chairman Sotoero.

Let's just have the collapse and revolution and get it over with.

Posted by: LibertarianJim at September 17, 2012 01:44 PM (CMbMd)

With all Due Respect ( where none is due ) that's maybe the most dangerous sentiment on Earth.   ---You can speak for thee, but not for me

53 Let's just have the collapse and revolution and get it over with. Glenn Beck did a segment on this typing of thinking and he said, I quote, it's fucking stupid. Beck asked what will happen after this great collapse. Who's gonna rebuild it? YOU, the guy who gave up and let it go?

54 I wish he wouldn't write about Priest Lake. 
Saw him last month at Hills.  This place is nirvana, and the more people like him expose it, the more the " beautiful people " show up and fuck it up.   Then they sic the EPA on the locals until no one can afford to live here but Ben and his beautiful people.   And then they gripe about the  lack of housekeepers.

Glad you've woken up Ben.  But could you just keep your mouth shut about Priest Lake?  Thanks.

55 I  thought  Ben  Stein  was  an  actor  and  commercial  pitchman.

56 DOA, Barrel; at least you'll defend my right to say it.

57

A great comment at Ricochet went like this:

Mr. President, what does it say about your foreign policy that it was torpedoed by a single YouTube video?

58

Winter is coming.

 

Cover your elbows,  unchaste whores.

59 If Stein has finally seen the extent of the existential threat to Western civilization posed by Barky 0, perhaps there are many more that have also awakened instead of sleeping through the election cycle and expecting everything was going to be all right.

I used to follow Stein pretty regularly, because when he hits one it is out of the park, but he has been phoning it in for some time and I lost interest.  I may have to see if he has finally learned something valuable.

60

Posted by: Lauren at September 17, 2012 01:40 PM (wsGWu)

 

 

Which people are surrendering to the islamist? Certainly not me or millions of others like me.

61 Erdoğan said he will continue to give messages at the next UN General Assembly meeting about adopting international legislation against insulting religion. “I am the prime minister of a nation, of which most are Muslims and that has declared anti-semitism a crime against humanity. ???? Then why aren't you and junta in jail?

62 14 Oh nice for Ben Stein to wake up and act like he never supported Barky Odogeater which I'm pretty sure he did. Thanks a lot for nothing. Posted by: Boots at September 17, 2012 01:36 PM (neKzn Cry me a river, Ben. You've been snoozin' for years and......right up to about now. People like you enabled this. Sorta kinda liberal, sorta kinda progressive, sorta kinda...... bullshit. Being compassionate (I know, I know) doesn't rule out Conservatism. But compassion stops, at the threshold of stupid. I guess having beaucoup bucks allowed you to keep hitting the snooze button, huh. Thanks, from the rest of us.

63 If we do not teach our children about our Constitution and America's great history, and allow teachers and teachers unions to control the liberal narrative to young tender ears... Yeah, we are screwed. Obama is a monster, well protected by his minions of monsters.

64 at least you'll defend my right to say it.

Posted by: LibertarianJim at September 17, 2012 01:48 PM (CMbMd)

let me repeat what I wrote, Doomsayer:  

You can speak for thee but not for me.   ---Get a grip............  ( insert obvious joke here )

65 Stein may be right twice a day, but he gave money to elect Al Franken and is dead to me.

66 Andrew McCarthy has a very good book about the nexus of Islam and the left. They are collaborating very closely to bring us down.

Be interesting to watch them turn on each other once their mission is accomplished, but I'd really rather explore that through science fiction than reality.

67 And the media motherfuckers sit there like silent statues.

Statues with expensive haircuts, of course.

68  Just thinking about this after reading my news cites and I have a question to some of the more illustrative morons.

How does the "Right" bring the country back to a more Constitutional governance without appearing dictatorial in the process?

I ask that because we can deregulate and cut taxes and proclaim freedom throughout the land, but the left still controls the courts,the MFM, and the education system.

69 I Have not had any confidence in this dude since this: Stein, an actor, writer and economist, has contributed $2,000 to Franken’s Minnesota Senate campaign. The two men have known each other for about 30 years. “I’m struck by what an incredibly capable, hard-working guy he is,” Stein told The Associated Press in a telephone interview Thursday. “He’s a very smart liberal, he’s a thoroughgoing patriot, and I would feel better with him in the Senate.”

70 @entropy

I am a den leader for my son's cub scout pack, I got a letter last week (maybe 10 days ago) from BSA national telling us the records were being released and to expect questions from parents.

71 This does not bode well for a Peaceful America.  There are some Americans who will not submit.  They do not view their rights as being granted by the government.

72 Stein may be right twice a day, but he gave money to elect Al Franken and is dead to me. Posted by: Gromit at September 17, 2012 01:50 PM (4KOF2) Maybe, but it was not his dodge dart with all them Franken votes in the trunk?

73 Why is he practically calling the race for TFG already?

74 Ben Stein endorsed Al Franken in 2008....according to Stein's Wikipedia page. Called him...."an impressive guy". Posted by: wheatie at September 17, 2012 01:47 PM (Z7b/q) Good. Lord. *long Peter Griffin sigh* That explains a lot.

75 Chris Stevens' lifeless body returned to America Friday. Any word on funeral services? Cause of death? There's a few different versions of what went down; it'd be good to know. Smoke inhalation? Blunt force trama? Any bullets hit him? Oh, that's right: we can't know until Eric Holder has finished his investigation.

76 Thank goodness we have strong representation in office, people with big balls who are not feeding at the trough, to look out for the "little people."

77

28...I don't think he ever supported obama. Show me a link where he did?

 

Nevergiveup. 

Stein has agreed with Warren Buffet...about Barky's "tax the rich" outlook.

I've seen him argue, heatedly, with Neil Cavuto about it...several times.

 

Stein was also rather supportive of ObamaCare...when it was being debated.

But he's sort of walked that back, after we started seeing all that was in it.

 

Sorry, don't have any links.

But there may be some youtube vids of the Cavuto show, that show the arguments.

 

78 This does not bode well for a Peaceful America. There are some Americans who will not submit. They do not view their rights as being granted by the government....................So they must be crushed.

79 33 TFG is... anyone, anyone? A total SCOAMF. Which means... anyone, anyone? ---------- He's made of wood?

80

Obama is actually springing to action in response to the attacks on the embassies:  the AP reports he is ordering......er........sensitive documents at mideast embassies to be destroyed, to avoid being captured when they are overrun.

Obama's new Mideast policy: shredding from behind.

81 This fuckin Ebola.

82 My internal thoughts weep for my country.  My external actions include flipping off Obastard every time he is on TV. 


I do it for the children.

83 Sorry, don't have any links. But there may be some youtube vids of the Cavuto show, that show the arguments. Posted by: wheatie at September 17, 2012 01:52 PM (Z7b/q) OK I'll take your word. He would not be the first person to bitterly disappoint me.

84

All true, but this scandal isn't getting so much as a shrug out of the Honey Boo Boo voters on whom this election seems poised to turn. WTF will it actually take to get the attention of these goons?

 

 

 

 

Losing their pretties NOW.

85 How does the "Right" bring the country back to a more Constitutional governance without appearing dictatorial in the process? I ask that because we can deregulate and cut taxes and proclaim freedom throughout the land, but the left still controls the courts,the MFM, and the education system.Posted by: Soona

How did the Left come to control the courts,the MFM, and the education system?

86 69 Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at September 17, 2012 01:50 PM (/kI1Q) Exactly. I'd like to see the Chi-Coms go face to face against the Muzzies. Sort of like the Iran-Iraq War. 8 years of popcorn and pudding.

87

 I ask that because we can deregulate and cut taxes and proclaim freedom throughout the land, but the left still controls the courts,the MFM, and the education system.

 

Soona, I propose we get a national divorce on grounds of irreconcilable differences.

88 74,

Classify me in that group, mmmmmkay!!! I didn't voluntarily go to war twice just to see my idea of being an American torn down by some ghetto pimp from Chicago I back the Nuge's statement he made awhile back 1000%.

89 82 33 TFG is... anyone, anyone? A total SCOAMF. Which means... anyone, anyone?

----------

He's made of wood?
---

And if he's made of wood?

90 Well, politics is not a college debate society and elections neither are coffee   klatches nor sewing circles.  Politics and elections are serious business.    Maybe the greatest and certainly the ghastliest irony is there are millions of   conservatives and alleged conservatives out there (plus a large sum of rank poseurs) who even to this very day still haven't quite figured that out.  Hopefully  they'll clue in.  Before it's too late.   

91 Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 17, 2012 01:45 PM (j1gX1)

Don't you know that Turkey is leading from the front in disestablishing a nominally secular government and returning to a more "sharia friendly" form of thugocracy.  No wonder that the Dems DNC would use th Turkish military equipment as part of their propaganda illustrating the kind of military that would not hesitate to bomb its own citizens if they became lacking in respect for government officials.

92  A total SCOAMF. Which means... anyone, anyone?
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at September 17, 2012 01:42 PM



Hmmm...Scumbag Cocksucker Of A Marxist Female?

93

Exactly, DOA.  "You can speak."

 

I'm not going to say the idea is a pleasant one, or that it doesn't come from a very dark place of eeyoreism.  But the current administration is treating the Constitution like bird cage lining, and it seems no one is willing to say "you have violated the social contract, and consent is withdrawn."

 

 

94 88 Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 17, 2012 01:54 PM (3CiXB) It is a conundrum. They use any means at all to take us down, while we are confined to an ever-shrinking circle of freedoms and options (the courts in particular). I hate the left for many reasons, but mostly because I see that there will be no alternative except the use of force to restore the republic. I abhor violence, and I hope they rot in Hell for putting us in this position.

95 Hasn't Stein been one of those famous fiscal conservatives/social liberals?  Kind of like Streudelnegger?  

96 Mr. Stein might be on to something here.

97 Which people are surrendering to the islamist? Certainly not me or millions of others like me.Posted by: Velvet Ambition at September 17, 2012 01:49 PM (R8hU Obama et al. I agree that the American people have far more backbone.

98 89 69 Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at September 17, 2012 01:50 PM (/kI1Q)

Exactly. I'd like to see the Chi-Coms go face to face against the Muzzies.

Sort of like the Iran-Iraq War. 8 years of popcorn and pudding.

I think we'd need to arm the Muzzies to extend things a bit.

99

Invest in 5.56 and 9 mm.

Be proficient with your tools.

It's the new gold as far as I am concerned.

100 Ben Stein is also a shitty economist.

101 By that, of course, I mean not that fiscally conservative and way over the top socially liberal. 

102 101 I think we'd need to arm the Muzzies to extend things a bit. Posted by: Henry Kissinger at September 17, 2012 01:58 PM (e0xKF) Nothing more than rusty hacksaws.

103 I used to kind of like Ben Stein. Then a couple of years ago I read a post of his that made me realize that this guy has no judgment that I should ever respect.  I can't even remember what the subject was, but since then he's been in the Peggy Noonan Broken Clock Pundit category for me.

Glad he work up, if only temporarily.

104 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwmrKb1m_nY&feature=plcp Happy birthday occupy and warren worth a look

105 54 we might be better off sticking with Chairman Sotoero. Let's just have the collapse and revolution and get it over with. Posted by: LibertarianJim at September 17, 2012 01:44 PM (CMbMd) Nah. No. Nix. The fix is going to be turbulent enough without another four years of this crap.

106 going with Zombie's suggestion re: headlines, I hereby retitle this piece "Obama Targets Mayans: Tries to End World Earlier Than December 21, 2012"

107 Unless the JEF stops Iran from building nukes... we may have to make a decision how much we are willing to fight to keep our liberties... imagine instead of threatening our embassy they threaten to use the nukes.

I know what barkies answer would be and that's why he must go.

108 So, under the new anti-blasphemy laws, will the Bin Laden movie be released.  Barky's ego demands to be stroked, but I bet his sense of self-preservation is stronger.

109

Better Zombieized Title (Truthful Impact on the Honeyb's):  Ben Stein Recognizes Obama's Hostility to Freedom of Speech of American's everywhere.

 

 

110 I never imagined that building fighting positions around your property might be a great thing to research, not me I already know how.

111 When statements from the Libyan government are more credible than statements from the American government, I'd have to say we've probably crossed the Rubicon...

112 92 And if he's made of wood? ------ He floats?

113

Havard University Press put out a book on the violence sparked by the Danish cartoon depicting Muhammad...without including the image at the heart of the violence.

 

Remember that blogger who proposed that all bloggers take one day to stand up for free speech by posting an image of Muhammad...and she quickly backed down and renounced herself?

 

In both cases, they concluded that the upside of standing up for speech was not as great as the downside. Free people need to change that equation. Normally, we'd have the help of the "creative arts" industry for such things. If the rioting Muslims were not "people of color," Hollywood would have been tripping over itself to crank out dramas and documentaries in defense of free speech. Academia too. Unfortunately, those two make up a huge portion of the Opinion-Shaping Apparatus in the West, and they're not interested in helping.  

 

 

 

114 Stein is wrong about one thing- Obama will not be president for the next four years.

115 Exactly. I'd like to see the Chi-Coms go face to face against the Muzzies.

We're doing our best, J. J.

116 I hate the left for many reasons, but mostly because I see that there will be no alternative except the use of force to restore the republic. I abhor violence, and I hope they rot in Hell for putting us in this position.Posted by: J.J. Sefton

My question made to indicate the answer. Why should the path to a more felicitous Republic require anything other than the same actions the Left has undertaken in their 80+year march through the institutions?

The correct answers to problems of society are never as satisfying as the easy answers. 

117 115 92 And if he's made of wood?

------

He floats?

---

And if he floats?

118 Ben Stein always predicts doom. He predicted that Al Gore would win the recount battle in 2000. He's a very wimpy guy and projects his own lack of strength onto the GOP and America in general.

119 imagine instead of threatening our embassy they threaten to use the nukes.

All the threats have already been made over the past 30 years.  Now its just down to the devices and logistics.

120 Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at September 17, 2012 01:59 PM (aOzuy)

Could not agree with you more.


If Romney wins, it will take one or two decades to even partially reverse much of the evil put in place by the anti-Constitutionalist liberals.

If Obama wins, it will take one or two generations to reconstruct a Constitutional Republic, if it can be reconstructed at all.

121

Re: my comment #14 above -

 

In looking for a linky for Ben Stein actually endorsing Obama in 2008, I can't find one, what I have found in abundance are links to Ben Stein saying that the pick of Sarah Palin as the VP nominee "scares" him.

 

Ben Stein got lots of press in 2008 on his dissing of Sarah Palin.  Compared picking her as VP to a card game of 52-pickup, where McCain had just thrown all the cards in the deck up in the air, and would have to pick them all up to get voters to vote for Sarah Palin.

 

So that's why my memory banks had him endorsing Obama in 2008, he didn't come right out and say "Vote for TFG" but he trash talked Palin incessantly. 

La meme chose.

 

 

122

Hasn't Stein been one of those famous fiscal conservatives/social liberals?

 

 

 

He is a anti-evolution.

123 He's a duck!

124 Hasn't Stein been one of those famous fiscal conservatives/social liberals?

He worked for Nixon and Ford, which might tell you something.

125 120 The correct answers to problems of society are never as satisfying as the easy answers. Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 17, 2012 02:03 PM (3CiXB) Oh, wouldst that would be the case. It will be a tough slog. Forget government - we have to win back the schools from kindergarten to post-graduate. Everything after that should fall into place, but it will take at least a generation. If that fails, then all bets are off.

126 But think of what we have lost: I am writing this on Sunday night, September 16, 2012. The Obama administration is still apologizing to the Muslims worldwide, even in Libya even as the President of Libya says the killings there were not spontaneous but were long premeditated The Dog-Eating adminsitration has been apologizing to muzzies for 4 years, now. It's a bit late to claim that they have just started apologizing for the latest savage islamic act. THis administration and Barky HUSSEIN have been pro-muslim since the very, very beginning - before, even. And who gives a shit what the Libyan government says? THey're lying scumbags. We don't need them to let us know that a coordinated attack with RPGs and mortars wasn't something that ahmed and 50 of his buddies just decided at 3 in the afternoon to pull off an hour later. THe only people who would believe that are total retards who think that no planning is necessary for any military operations - i.e. the idiot traitors in the Barky Hussein dog-eating treasonous retard administration. [and the nutty movie was only a smokescreen. [/i] People need to stop this. THe movie is very funny and biting satire. It is quite well done and the dialogue is hysterical. It is better than most other movies and certainly much more informative than just about all of them. It is a well done movie that drives home the point that islam is not worthy of expensive sets. People who call the movie "shitty" or "nutty" or "stupid" or whatever are just mini-dhimmis trying to give an inch on OUR right to free speech. Besides the fact that the quality of the movie doesn't make one bit of difference in the argument, it is, indeed, quite a great bit of mocking satire. Better than SNL, with better sets and production value in that comparison.

127 119 And if he floats? -------- He's a witch?

128

119  115
92 And if he's made of wood?

------

He floats?
---

And if he floats?

------------------------

 

Yah, burn the witch!!!!

 

 

129 2.1 Billion Christians + 900 Million Hindus. We can trade 1:1 and come out ahead. My mind is going to dark places the last couple of weeks.

130 130 119 And if he floats? -------- He's a witch? Posted by: A. Peasant at September 17, 2012 02:06 PM (c16IJ) BURN HIM! BURN HIM!

131 When the first device detonates in NY harbor(*), I'm hoping it refocuses the rest of the country on what we're going to have to do to survive as a nation.

(*)The easiest, least detectable delivery system is by ordinary cargo container ship. 

132 133 130 119 And if he floats? -------- He's a witch? Posted by: A. Peasant at September 17, 2012 02:06 PM (c16IJ) BURN HIM! BURN HIM! Posted by: A. Nother Peasant at September 17, 2012 02:08 PM It's a fair cop...

133 If we just give them the old people, the cripples and the orphans, the Germans will stop the deportations...
(Overheard in the Warsaw Ghetto, c 1942)

134

128  120 The correct answers to problems of society are never as satisfying as the easy answers.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 17, 2012 02:03 PM (3CiXB)


Oh, wouldst that would be the case. It will be a tough slog. Forget government - we have to win back the schools from kindergarten to post-graduate.

Everything after that should fall into place, but it will take at least a generation.

If that fails, then all bets are off.

--------------------------------------------------

 

How long did it take Bill Ayers and his minions to take over the public schools?  Um, at least since the 1960's, so that's 50 years, which is two generations.  And they were united in their hatred of the rest of us, and focused on the goal of destruction.

 

The people on the other side kept ceding ground, giving in, thinking, oh just this one little thing, and before you know it everything has changed.  Yeah, change.

 

135 The article made me so depressed that I had to burn 8 Korans just to cheer up.

Man, now that's a real shame when folks be throwing away perfectly good targets like that.

136 (*)The easiest, least detectable delivery system is by ordinary cargo container ship. Posted by: @PurpAv at September 17, 2012 02:08 PM (NWRs2) I think the likeliest delivery method is by foreign commercial passenger jet.

137

I hate the left for many reasons, but mostly because I see that there will be no alternative except the use of force to restore the republic. I abhor violence, and I hope they rot in Hell for putting us in this position.Posted by: J.J. Sefton

 

No.

 

My question made to indicate the answer. Why should the path to a more felicitous Republic require anything other than the same actions the Left has undertaken in their 80+year march through the institutions?

 

This.

 

The Left did this legally. The worked harder.

 

It makes sense. If you're "progressive," always seeking to change America, you're work is clear and you are alwasy on the offensive. If you are conservative, you, by nature, play defense, to conserve American traditions.

 

It's time to work as hard as the Left did, and stop playing defense.

138 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

139 If Romney wins, it will take one or two decades to even partially reverse much of the evil put in place by the anti-Constitutionalist liberals. If Obama wins, it will take one or two generations to reconstruct a Constitutional Republic, if it can be reconstructed at all. Posted by: Hrothgar (Dagny Aficionado ) at September 17, 2012 02:05 PM (Cnqmv) Sounds about right. We would have to maintain a continuous conservative majority for at least four election cycles. Still, I have to wonder if the tipping point has been passed. I pray it has not. I was not a huge fan of Boosh the Elder, but if not for the white jug-eared Fuck, we wouldn't be in this situation. Fuck Ross Perot. As soon as the TimeMachine® is operational, he will never have existed.

140 *They* worked harder.

141 Exactly. I'd like to see the Chi-Coms go face to face against the Muzzies.

Sort of like the Iran-Iraq War. 8 years of popcorn and pudding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 17, 2012 01:54 PM (+tqYo)

 

I'm sure the     uyghurs would have a thing or two   to tell their muzzie brethren about fucking with the Chinese.  One thing   you can say about a brutal totalitarian dictatorship - they don't like sharing loyalties.

142

"Why is he practically calling the race for TFG already?"

 

Not just that, but he assumes that after another four years of TFG there will actually be an America left, but it will be one in which a woman is allowed to hold public office, which he practically calls for Hillary.

 

Sorry.  I was giving credit to Ben's writing until that sentence.  Then I stopped. 

143 America?....America?....America?....

144 The Left did this legally. The worked harder. No, they didn't. Having judges pervert the meaning of laws is not "legal" in any sense. The left did this because we were not willing to enforce the laws on them, not because they did anything legally. Union violence is not legal. Fleebagging is not legal - it's totally anti-Constitutional as the Constittuion guarantees to every State a Republican form of government, which is what the fleebaggers intentionally denied Wisconsin. We just didn't hold the left accountable for their illegal actions and perversions of the law from within. That doesn't mean that what they did was "legal".

145

*facepalm*

 

Leave it to you morons to be fed a line from Ferris Bueller's Day Off, and confuse it with Monty Python...

146

I was not a huge fan of Boosh the Elder, but if not for the white jug-eared Fuck, we wouldn't be in this situation. Fuck Ross Perot.

 

I think it's a mistake to see it that way. The elections reflect changes in America as much as they cause the changes. Bush 41 being re-elected would not have changed a thing, since the underlying changes in the electorate remain.  

 

 

147 All this talk about HoneyB's.. I read the article and I do not agree. First of all, if they are too busy to watching TV, they dont bother reading political websites, so I dont think inflammatory headlines here are worth a damn... We dont own the MSM so that's out. Turnout is more key than the HoneyB's.

148 Did you see the post above?
Can you say "irony"?
I knew you could.

149 Better Zombieized Title (Truthful Impact on the Honeyb's): Ben Stein Recognizes Obama's Hostility toFreedom of Speech of American's everywhere.

Posted by: Minuteman at September 17, 2012 02:01 PM (1FOy5)

 

You have to keep it short and sharp.   Something like, "Ben Stein: Obama    Will Make Freedom of Speech Illegal."

150

"He is a anti-evolution."

 

BZZZZZT.

 

He is Intelligent-Design.

151

Another question I've been thinking about over the weekend. 

 

Knowing that absolutely no harsh words towards the muzzies or the governments where these deadly demonstrations were executed and that keeping this rhetoric in the forefront will  eventually hurt his chances for re-election, why is the SCOAMT doing this?

 

Could it be that he has knowledge of a  muzzie nuclear device already in the US?  I know he doesn't give a crap about this country, but couldn't this be just a temporary appeasement to hold off on a detonation until he's out of office?

 

 

152 He is Intelligent-Design. Posted by: reason at September 17, 2012 02:19 PM (sPO/s) He's also pro "tax the rich more and more and more".

153

No, they didn't. Having judges pervert the meaning of laws is not "legal" in any sense.

 

If you think that's the reason for the Left's success over the last century, you're kidding yourself. And if enough conservatives think that, we are finished, because it means we won't up our game and beat them on the playing field, we'll just cry that they cheated.

 

 

154 "Hasn't Stein been one of those famous fiscal conservatives/social liberals?" More the reverse. Even though he's Jewish, he has a very old-fashioned WASP outlook, complete with the deer-in-the-headlights terror of the powerful Left. He always projects weakness. I remember him talking about what nice boys the Bush brothers were, and sadly concluding that they couldn't possibly beat the tough guys in the Democrat Party. Basically he's Woody Allen minus the quasi-incest.

155 If you think that's the reason for the Left's success over the last century, you're kidding yourself. And if enough conservatives think that, we are finished, because it means we won't up our game and beat them on the playing field, we'll just cry that they cheated. Posted by: CJ at September 17, 2012 02:20 PM (9KqcB) It was one of many ILLEGAL actions the left took to pervert society. I didn't feel like listing one after another. I was taking issue with your idea that the left operates within the law. It does not. The left does cheat. If we won't enforce the laws on them then we have a very serious problem, which is why ... we have a very serious problem. If we had enforced the law and the least bit of common sense Barky would have been tossed from the 2008 race and tried for his ILLEGAL campaign rally in a foreign nation ... for foreigners. But, we wouldn't. If we had enforced the Constitutional restriction of "natural born citizen" (which doesn't include dual citizens, obviously) then he would be history. If we had enforced any of our laws since he slimed into office he would have been impeached and tried for any of the tens of crimes he's committed - Libya is a shining example of that. And on and on. Not just for Barky but for the rest of the leftists - especially the unions and the corrupt leftist judges and politicians. The left does not play by the rules. Period. Make of it what you will, but that is the fact of the matter.

156 No, they didn't. Having judges pervert the meaning of laws is not "legal" in any sense.Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair

What you wrote in no way refutes CJ's statement and he is still correct.

To use your example, judges don't spontaneously errupt from the ground. They come from the schools, steeped in decades of leftism. They work with graduates and become renown one way or another and then become judges and politicians.

That takes a lot of work by a lot of people. That work by and large wasn't counted by the Right because we either didn't want to fight a cultural war or we didn't think what they were doing would fundamentally change the country.

Just because you recognize this as a great problem doesn't mean you get to handwave away correct assessments of the 'why.'

157 To use your example, judges don't spontaneously errupt from the ground. They come from the schools, steeped in decades of leftism. And they can be impeached (federal judges) for perverting the law and refusing to honor their oaths. Just because the refs let you get away with cheating doesn't mean that you aren't cheating.

158 And they can be impeached (federal judges) for perverting the law and refusing to honor their oaths. Just because the refs let you get away with cheating doesn't mean that you aren't cheating.Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair

Again, that in no shape or form refutes what CJ wrote. You're barking the wrong tree for little reason

159 And in the very rare case when federal judges were impeached (it took blatant bribery for that to happen because destruction of the Constitution just isn't "enough") we didn't even sanction the piece of shit from gaining federal office, again - Alcee Hastings - who now sits on the Intelligence Committee. Yep ... great stuff. Nothing to do with their having operated "legally", just our stupidity and cowardice.

160 Again, that in no shape or form refutes what CJ wrote. Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 17, 2012 02:30 PM (3CiXB) Just keep saying that and it will become correct.

161 Having a James Buchanan in office sucks...

162 Nam, if you're still out there, I'm glad you're on our side. Not a soul on this site I'd rather share a foxhole with. And for more reasons than just your experience.

163 Regarding the Boy Scout/pedophiles thing entropy mentioned; remember how when the idea of gay marriage started getting mainstreamed some knuckledraggers asked when child molesters would turn out to be 'born that way' and we should love and understand them?

It's now 'when', folks:

http://tinyurl.com/8asnjp8

I give it 3 to 5 years for collecting for the 'Roman Polanski School for Educating Young Children and Dorking Them Up The Squeakhole' to come to your office or shop. It's the new normal! Don't be a hater!

164 Stein spoke at McVain's convention, however he commented to ABC 'Palin scares me.' Schmuck.

165

The left does cheat. If we won't enforce the laws on them then we have a very serious problem,

 

Answer me this: If we enforced every law that you say we didn't enforce, how different would the cultural/political landscape be?

 

 

166 Answer me this: If we enforced every law that you say we didn't enforce, how different would the cultural/political landscape be? Posted by: CJ at September 17, 2012 02:37 PM (9KqcB) Very. Benedickhead Roberts would never have thought to fuck America over with that blatantly insane opinion of his, for one, which would be a major change all by itself. If you don't ever clean then everntually the dirt is embedded. That's just how things go. We didn't do the minimal maintenance necessary and the machine broke. Nothing surprising about that.

167

That takes a lot of work by a lot of people. That work by and large wasn't counted by the Right because we either didn't want to fight a cultural war or we didn't think what they were doing would fundamentally change the country.

 

Unfortunately, the Right only gets motivitated at election time. The Left is working year-round. Everything is political to them. I really do think the Internet has allowed the Right more of a year-round platform. It's just that we're in a race to catch up, and we may have passed the point of no return.

 

 

168 Stein really believes that Obama is going to be re-elected.  He has said so before.  I pray that he is wrong and I fear that he is right.

169 Two-state solution. What are they going to do about it?

170

Very.

 

That's it? You can't even point to a change in the political landscape. Screw the Roberts vote. I want major policy decisions being decided by the court. How did a politician get elected promising government health care? How did it pass a representative body? How is it the guy behind it is on his way to re-election? Because...they cheated? In every case?

 

No. Because the other side got more people to support their ideas.

171 I *DON'T* want policy decided by the court, that is.

172 Answer me this: If we enforced every law that you say we didn't enforce, how different would the cultural/political landscape be? Posted by: CJ at September 17, 2012 02:37 PM (9KqcB) For another simple example, if the NY Slimes and WaPo had been prosecuted for revealing national security secrets to the enemy then that would have put a bit of a lid on the MFM and their treasonous behavior. Even if the they were acquitted. After those particularly egrigious instances of illegality (though not the only ones) the MFM thought that it was free to do anything it wants. It is not illegal for the MFM to lie, of course, or to collude to propagandize America, but they would not have considered themselves totally untouchable if the earlier serious national security breeches hadn't been allowed to skate free with no problem whatsoever. You can go back in history and see how the MFM changed after those incidents, becoming even crazier than they were, by orders of magnitude.

173 That's it? You can't even point to a change in the political landscape. Screw the Roberts vote. Sure ... only the most serious un-Constitutional expansion of the feral government made possible because feral judges don't worry about stomping all over the Constitution (which Congress is charged with protecting, too). Not a big change there ... WTFFF?

174

Unfortunately, the Right only gets motivitated at election time.The Left is working year-round. Everything is political to them.

 

 

The Left has a small cadre of hard-core Communists who eat, drink, sleep, and dream subversion. It's all they do. They're highly organized, highly disciplined, and utterly determined. Read Whitaker Chambers's Witness to see how that's been true for at least half a century.

175 There are so many people I know praying for a Romney victory, including myself. 
And yet I know that moral people are in the minority in this country now.  My hope is that Romney is successful in convincing the taxpaying voters to show up in great numbers because it is in their economic self-interest to do so.

Like Abraham, people of faith in the good ole USA have become strangers in a strange land. 

And yep, this little church lady has become a modest prepper.

176

Sure ... only the most serious un-Constitutional expansion of the feral government made possible because feral judges don't worry about stomping all over the Constitution (which Congress is charged with protecting, too). Not a big change there ...

 

My friend, no one agrees with you. I mean, not enough people agree with you. The guy who said he would do it was elected. Then it was passed by elected Congress. Then upheld by the court. Then the guy who said he would do it was re-elected (perhaps.)

 

Your entire theory rests on one man in one court ruling, while the rest remains untouched. We got Obamacare because we lost politically. Period.

177

For another simple example, if the NY Slimes and WaPo had been prosecuted for revealing national security secrets to the enemy then that would have put a bit of a lid on the MFM and their treasonous behavior. Even if the they were acquitted.

 

The reason they were not prosecuted is because no elected politician thinks the public will support him if he tries - because conservatives have not made the case. Nothing happens in politics if politicians don't think they have enough support.

 

This stuff is not won or lost in a courtroom. It's fought in the court of public opinion. And we haven't been winning there.

178 This stuff is not won or lost in a courtroom. It's fought in the court of public opinion. And we haven't been winning there. Posted by: CJ at September 17, 2012 03:32 PM (9KqcB) Sure ... the Constitution is meaningless. Only the whim of the masses counts. You are using that argument to say that the left operates within the law. Look, we will obviously not come to an agreement on this. I don't particularly care if no one agrees with me. Too bad for them. My points of view are not moved by public opinion - as is supposed to be the point of a Constitutional Republic, logic and the whole concept of "law" that you are claiming to be opining about. You and I disagree on this. No big deal. Everyone agrees with you? Good for all of you. Democracy determines correctness, as you say ... I think our Founders might have pointed that out, too ... something about Democracy and our governmental architecture ... The Constitution was just for show.

179

It goes even further.  We supposed to believe that the ambassador's death was a "spontaneous" mob.

 

But since the perps were armed with RPGs, machine guns, and mortars, we also asked to believe that these are typical things that one brings to a demonstration in Libya.

 

But, MOST OF ALL, we are asked to ignore the obvious question as to how a "Spontaneous" mob was able to assassinate a US ambassasor!

 

And, FURTHER, we are asked to believe that the kind of security most people have in their homes (locks on doors), plus a handful of local rent-a-cops and a few cameras was a perfectly REASONABLE level of security for a US ambassador in war zone - one where the locals - in their fantasy world - bring RPGs to a demonstration.  That it was perfectly reasonable to forego any serious security, in order to "keep a low profile."

 

180 I've decided, with little evidence and what scant there is remembering at this time is difficult, that Mark Steyn and other pessimists must think what America "had" was due to extenuating circumstances and not the Americans ourselves. So fuck him. We Americans might be fucked, but as R. Lee Ermey has said, we can (and had best) "unfuck" ourselves.

181 Look, I'll give you the skinny--we play politics as we've been playing them since 1992, it's over, especially if that is the only front we fight on. We do just about anything else, it's over for them.

182 Sunday labor was the death knell of this once great republic. Sports and the endless entertainment, dining, and retail of this pseudo-Christian land have replaced any depth to our communion with one another. The Jews aren't blameless, though their overwhelming presence in mass media may be a touch misleading. The consumer of vanities has to accept responsibility as well.

183 Stein voted for Obama.