June 10, 2012

Bobby Jindal at CPAC
— Dave in Texas

This.

Jindal concluded that Obama is “the most liberal, most incompetent president in the White House since Jimmy Carter.”

Jindal is saying the right things, but leaving out the other important fact. It's true Obama is incompetent. It's also true that he's purposeful, that while his execution is clumsy because he's a fool, his results are a clear indication of his intentions. He made the mistake (as has been noted often of liberals) of saying exactly what he believes (the private sector is doing just fine) instead of buttering it up with pretty words.

Good stuff. I can't wait for November.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at 09:05 AM | Comments (289)
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1 Obama is a stuttering cluster Fck of a miserable failure

Posted by: TexBob at June 10, 2012 11:08 AM (51Nv7)

2 I'm still confused by the new commenting system. *confused*

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 10, 2012 11:08 AM (kqGWM)

3 Obama is the stupidest man to ever sit in the White House, and No, I do not believe he is a legitimate President.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 11:13 AM (IEUSX)

4 He is FAR WORSE than Jimmy Carter.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 11:14 AM (IEUSX)

5 Jindal concluded that Obama is “the most liberal, most incompetent president in the White House since ever"

FIFY

Posted by: sTevo at June 10, 2012 11:15 AM (VMcEw)

6 Hurray! I'm number 2, I'm number 2!


Pipe down, Old Man. I know where you live.

Posted by: attack rabbit's great (x4) grandson at June 10, 2012 11:16 AM (z9HTb)

7

Islamic Republics Created -

 

Carter : 1

Obama : 3

Posted by: In case you are keeping score at June 10, 2012 11:16 AM (OMkfK)

8 Jindal also concluded the sky is blue, water is wet, New Orleans likes its food and politics spicy and the globe is warmed by the sun. 

Posted by: Mac Gootbone at June 10, 2012 11:17 AM (XCSw/)

9 Romney is going to the mattresses, we bring the Obama ridicule.

Posted by: 13times at June 10, 2012 11:17 AM (h6XiD)

10 Obama is of the Cloward and Piven school of government finance.

Posted by: crosspatch at June 10, 2012 11:18 AM (ZbLJZ)

11 Obama, like Carter, won't be able to shut up once he is out of office. Unlike Carter I believe he is lazy (I know,...raaacciiisttt) so I don't think we will see him monitoring elections for dictators or building homes for habit for humanity. We will see him hob knobbing with celebrities all round the world. I think he will seek positions within the UN and or World Bank. The US was always too small and parochial for him in his mind. I am sure he would happily undermine the US in favor of world governance.

Posted by: thunderb at June 10, 2012 11:22 AM (Dnbau)

12 Brb updating shrine

Posted by: alexthechick at June 10, 2012 11:29 AM (yTtpr)

13 Thank God this isn't Europe where you can throw out a politician at the national level only to see them return to cause more mischief from an untouchable position in the EU, such as Tony Blair.

Posted by: LIGuy at June 10, 2012 11:30 AM (+usC4)

14 Jimmy unintentionally destroyed America. JEFOTUS in doing it by design.

Posted by: Nutmeg Moron at June 10, 2012 11:34 AM (Vg4Vv)

15
I think he will seek positions within the UN and or World Bank. The US was always too small and parochial for him in his mind. I am sure he would happily undermine the US in favor of world governance.


My current predication is that Obama and Michelle will move to NYC.  Obama will work for the UN in some capacity, where he'll hobnob with third world dictators and badmouth the Romney Administration.  Michelle will get a no show job that gives some multinational firm that wants influence that they can call upon.  The daughters will dumped with a nanny every day.

Posted by: Alex at June 10, 2012 11:36 AM (aNu4E)

16 He's got the worst foreign policy since Carter. Beyond that he's the most authoritarian since Franklin Roosevelt and the most inept since James Buchanan.

And, yes, he's the nation's first Marxist President. On that he's blazing new territory. That he's the nation's most economically disastrous President kinda goes with that territory.

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at June 10, 2012 11:37 AM (QTHTd)

17 Actually Jimmeh Carter was too stupid and incompetent to do too much damage plus he was a micro-manager.  Obama is stupid in a different manner and he lets his minions do all the work while he golfs.


But the overall most damaging President in history was FDR followed closely by LBJ. 

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 11:38 AM (YdQQY)

18 I'm afraid that he'll tell state secrets to our enemies after he is defeated.  On second thought, - Heck, he tells state secrets to our enemies NOW.

Posted by: mama winger at June 10, 2012 11:38 AM (P6QsQ)

19  I never thought the phrase "Love it or leave it" could be directed at a president.  Then came Obama.

Posted by: mama winger at June 10, 2012 11:40 AM (P6QsQ)

20 Jindal is an impressive guy. He's bringing about revolutionary change in Louisiana's educational system.

Posted by: Scobface at June 10, 2012 11:41 AM (IoNBC)

21 The most damaging in history, imo, is the double-punch provided by Pierce and Buchanan. At least Obama hasn't driven us into a Civil War, although I suspect I have to throw in the expression "in sha'llah" in there somewhere

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at June 10, 2012 11:43 AM (QTHTd)

22 I agree he will be knob-gobbling at the UN.

Posted by: jonsten at June 10, 2012 11:43 AM (fVgpT)

23

I agree with Alex, I think they will move to NYC where he will felate the UN, undermine Romney, and interfere in the middle east in favor of Islamic dictators since he will be "unfettered" by electoral politics.

 

Posted by: thunderb at June 10, 2012 11:44 AM (Dnbau)

24 Wouldn't doubt that he expects to be the first UN SecGen from the US. Except that the tradition is that the permanent members of the Security Council aren't eligible. I expect that the SCOAMF still doesn't realize that.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 10, 2012 11:45 AM (c2oll)

25 I saw a Romney 2012 sticker while driving on Romney St. today.  I decided to take this as a good sign. 

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 10, 2012 11:46 AM (yTtpr)

26 I don't think he'll go UN. He won't get to be the one in charge there. He'll go Carter's route of being asshole at large.

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2012 11:46 AM (4R02F)

27 I certainly hope I'll be allowed to keep my phoney-baloney job. It's for the children!

Posted by: Ban Ki Moon at June 10, 2012 11:47 AM (IoNBC)

28 Bobby Jindal is doing fine.

Posted by: Obama at June 10, 2012 11:47 AM (Qhz+d)

29 Wouldn't doubt that he expects to be the first UN SecGen from the US. Except that the tradition is that the permanent members of the Security Council aren't eligible. I expect that the SCOAMF still doesn't realize that.

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Obama being named will be UNPRECEDENTED!

Posted by: mama winger at June 10, 2012 11:48 AM (P6QsQ)

30 He's our secret weapon. We must find a way to deploy him on the UN.

Posted by: jonsten at June 10, 2012 11:48 AM (fVgpT)

31 Mama Winger... couldn't agree more.

Posted by: Tightie Rightie at June 10, 2012 11:49 AM (OfDMM)

32 In a race to the bottom, nobody beats Obama, by far. Obama makes Carter look like a statesman, and I thought that would be impossible. In that way perhaps Obama is a miracle worker. He makes Carter look better. Who'd a thunk it?

We gotta do everything possible to keep Hope and Change from becoming "the Dope Remains". Go Mitt.

But I don't think it's mostly incompetence, I think it's ignorance. Not the same thing. Obama is ignorant. Carter was just incompetent.

Posted by: Fussy at June 10, 2012 11:49 AM (Y/2U4)

33

I have no doubt he will argue that the US shouldn't be a permanent member of the security council, being all unfair and unjust to the third world and such.  Whatevs.  Maybe the rest of the world will cease to care about him when he is no longer President.  Then he will lack a platform.  And President
Participation Medal won't have anything to do.  Sads.

 

On the otherhand I am sure the dictators of those post colonial countries he has such an affection for would be happy to recruit him as their useful idiot to bludgeon us with.  I just wish he would keep golfing, and nothing else.

 

Meanwhile anyone willing to take on the NEA mafia is alright with me.  Go Jindal!

 

Posted by: thunderb at June 10, 2012 11:50 AM (Dnbau)

34
"Michelle will get a no show job that gives some multinational firm that wants influence that they can call upon."

No, I disagree. After the Democrats are crushed in November (well, a guy can hope), the Obamas will be radioactive in professional political circles. I mean, who in his right mind would have hired Rosalyn Carter after 1980? No, Michelle gets a TV chat show, where she can nag us over the airwaves, just like Oprah. And after that bombs - and it will, since she doesn't perform for the camera particularly well - she'll spend her time at her "job" at the Obama Foundation (and yes, there will be one). Both she and hubby will end up with the U.N. as official finger-waggers at America.

Posted by: Brown Line at June 10, 2012 11:51 AM (Gmry/)

35 Every time I think about BO after the WH days, I keep sensing Damien & Omen II stuff.. I need a beer.

Posted by: Tightie Rightie at June 10, 2012 11:52 AM (OfDMM)

36 When Ballack take over, we get in UN. Get rots and rots of money. I buy new whores for arr my fliends.

Posted by: Kim Jong Un at June 10, 2012 11:52 AM (IoNBC)

37 Barack Clouseau Kardashian

Posted by: jonsten at June 10, 2012 11:52 AM (fVgpT)

38 The unicorns never started farting rainbows and sh!tting skittles.  Barky is done. There is no way a majority of people think to themselves "I want four more years of this SCOAMF and the grinding misery he has inflicted on the country".

Posted by: Floyd at June 10, 2012 11:52 AM (z6pg+)

39 Yes, I agree they will be Finger wagger Officials aka F-Off.

Posted by: thunderb at June 10, 2012 11:53 AM (Dnbau)

40

re: Obama -

every day I expect to see him on my tv announcing that he's unifying  the deities and moving the capitol to Amarna.

Posted by: garrett at June 10, 2012 11:53 AM (IJVIZ)

41 He'll be the UN Special Envoy for nuclear nonproliferation.  It fits his desires perfectly.

He's always had some weird fetish for nuclear disarmament.
It allows him to suck up to third world dictators while castigating the US for not dismantling our nuclear stockpile.
He can attack nuclear power as a problem and push the green jobs scam, which also gives him a revenue stream thanks to bribes... ahem "consulting fees".
It's a cause that is popular on college campuses, where his biggest supporters are, which means that he'll have an excuse to stay close to academia.

Posted by: Alex at June 10, 2012 11:54 AM (aNu4E)

42 Hey, we can haz comments?

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at June 10, 2012 11:54 AM (iXnER)

43 Obama sucks cock

Posted by: Mr Pink at June 10, 2012 11:54 AM (uUFF8)

44

What the hell happened over the past few days?  I have been traveling.

Posted by: jewells45 at June 10, 2012 11:55 AM (QaXKc)

45 To quote Reagan - "“The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isnÂ’t so.”  cannot be said of Obama.
Mr. 57 States is Ignorant.

Posted by: Fussy at June 10, 2012 11:56 AM (Y/2U4)

46

Although I do like allowing him to insert himself into the UN in a position of authority.  He will over reach badly, and the UN could collapse!  Win-win!

Posted by: thunderb at June 10, 2012 11:56 AM (Dnbau)

47 48 What the hell happened over the past few days? I have been traveling. Joffen got a promotion!

Posted by: Scobface at June 10, 2012 11:56 AM (IoNBC)

48 I don't buy that Obama is smart.  Not even a little bit.  I believe he is shrewd.  But he fails by believing his own lies. 

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at June 10, 2012 11:56 AM (bMLFV)

49 I expect that the SCOAMF still doesn't realize that.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 10, 2012 03:45 PM (c2oll)

She can represent Kenyan as Inspektor General, can't she

Posted by: Bill from Chappaqua at June 10, 2012 11:57 AM (Bxm/r)

50 What the hell happened over the past few days? I have been traveling.

Ace posted a long rant regarding the BK situation.  Several commentators decided to post internet tough guy rants, as well as attack Ace for some of the decisions that he's made.  Ace asked them to stop because he didn't want to give BK and his associates any more ammunition for attacks or lawsuits.  Said commentators did not stop, and in fact doubled down on stupid.  Ace closed off comments and announced that he was going to a registration system.

Posted by: Alex at June 10, 2012 11:57 AM (aNu4E)

51 Hey, kids!  I've seen a couple of comments about Ace not being able to accept the Breitbart award.  Is that true, and if so, why can't he?  Anyone know?

Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2012 11:57 AM (kpCLl)

52 I don't think he is smart but he has an unwavering belief in his own unfallability which will compell him to thrust himself into the limelight.  Its not him, its us!

Posted by: thunderb at June 10, 2012 11:58 AM (Dnbau)

53 @54.  Thanks.. why are some people so damn stupid? 

Posted by: jewells45 at June 10, 2012 11:59 AM (QaXKc)

54 Hey, kids! I've seen a couple of comments about Ace not being able to accept the Breitbart award. Is that true, and if so, why can't he? Anyone know?

He didn't want to break his anonymity to accept it, and felt that this was not in the spirit with which AB lived, so he withdrew himself from consideration.

Posted by: Alex at June 10, 2012 11:59 AM (aNu4E)

55 Oh, thanks, Alex.  That's too bad they couldn't just award it to him as Ace of Spades.

How's your knee doing today?

Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2012 12:00 PM (kpCLl)

56 55 Hey, kids! I've seen a couple of comments about Ace not being able to accept the Breitbart award. Is that true, and if so, why can't he? Anyone know?

Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2012 03:57 PM (kpCLl)

 

Peaches it was given out on Friday.  He explained why in the comments of the post on Friday.

 

105 I am not receiving the Breitbart Award.

Because of concerns about my physical safety, I decided I could not attend. As I could not attend, I decided I was not worthy of the award -- Andrew Breitbart would not be afraid.

The Andrew Breitbart award will go to someone more deserving.

Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 05:45 PM (aw5Tx)

 

 

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2012 12:01 PM (GULKT)

57 That makes me sad but I respect Ace's right to protect his anonymity, especially now. 

Posted by: thunderb at June 10, 2012 12:02 PM (Dnbau)

58
How's your knee doing today?


Good, but I've not really gotten out of bed yet.  I'm going to try running a mile tomorrow and see how it feels. 

How are you doing?  Are you still working the job from hell, or did you already start another one?

Posted by: Alex at June 10, 2012 12:02 PM (aNu4E)

59 that's a shame about ace not being able to take the award.

Posted by: jewells45 at June 10, 2012 12:03 PM (QaXKc)

60 He wants your feedback:

http://www.barackobama.com/share-your-feedback

Posted by: jonsten at June 10, 2012 12:03 PM (fVgpT)

61 Thanks.. why are some people so damn stupid?


They were raised by the stupid wolves. 

Since we (understandably) have to go to a registration system, I would like to be able to use an avatar.  Mainly because I have a "you were raised by the stupid wolves weren't you" icon. 

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 10, 2012 12:04 PM (yTtpr)

62 Has anyone mentioned that Barry is a SCOAMF yet?

Posted by: MiloX at June 10, 2012 12:04 PM (gtraj)

63 I don't think that a statement made in a prepared speech can technically be called a gaffe, can it? It isn't like he was speaking off the cuff-like when he talked to Joe the plumber, or talked about guns and bitter clingers. This was written out for him to say.

Posted by: Chilling the most at June 10, 2012 12:04 PM (6IV8T)

64 OWS can't hardly get arrested no matter what they did but bloggers need to remain anonymous for their safety.  The world is upside-down.

Posted by: thunderb at June 10, 2012 12:05 PM (Dnbau)

65 When Ballack take over, UN send me rots of money. And whores. And Spaghettio's. Rots and rots of Spaghettio's.

Posted by: Kin Jong Un at June 10, 2012 12:05 PM (IoNBC)

66 ron ree..i'm mista ron ree

Posted by: thunderb at June 10, 2012 12:06 PM (Dnbau)

67 Thanks, buzzion.  Poor wittle ewok.  I honestly don't think there is anyone "more deserving," but I do respect his integrity in the matter.

We're in the final weeks of "old" firm and the new one(s) will start up 7/1.  Been super busy trying to dial all that in, but making progress.  The hard part is that feeling of, well, it's over and I'm so over it and GACK why do I have to keep going back there?  Nothing to do but suck it up, better days are in sight.

Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2012 12:06 PM (kpCLl)

68

I don't think Barack will live in the US.  I think Michelle will divorce him after the Democrat minions scatter. She and the girls will probably settle down and, surprisingly, stay out of the limelight.  She'll have some no-show corporate board and law firm partner jobs.  They might spend a lot of their time in the south of France or Switzerland.

 

Michelle won't pull a Hillary. She thinks she has value unchained to Barack and is not nearly as Machiavellian as Hillary.

 

Barack will be a world traveler.  About twice a year, if you pay attention, there'll be a big story about him spending time with his kids.  Otherwise, he'll go between penthouse suites in Europe, the US and the Middle East.

 

I predict he'll have a huge office complex in Dubai.

 

 

Posted by: AmishDude at June 10, 2012 12:08 PM (J5tI6)

69
...

But the overall most damaging President in history was FDR followed closely by LBJ.

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 03:38 PM (YdQQY)


I kinda disagree on this one because FDR built upon the work of Woodrow Wilson, the asshole that ensured WW II. LBJ, in turn, built upon the damages wrought by FDR. Although FDR's first 100 days were unarguably the worst in American history he was only standing atop the shoulders of the asshole who got the ball rolling. LBJ,in turn, stood atop the shoulders of FDR.

To me all three share the title of the most damaging President in history.

Posted by: Ed Anger Issues at June 10, 2012 12:08 PM (7+pP9)

70 I saw a Romney 2012 sticker while driving on Romney St. today. I decided to take this as a good sign.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 10, 2012 03:46 PM (yTtpr)


Conservatives, by and large, don't do bumper stickers, unlike the Libs.  If you see a bumper sticker on a Subaru or Volvo, you know it's going to be an Obama sticker.  (Why do the libs like Subarus and Volvos anyway?)

I live in Suburban Philadelphia.  I wouldn't dare but a Romney sticker on my car.  It'd be keyed, broken windows, etc. within a week.

Posted by: Ombudsman at June 10, 2012 12:08 PM (AxHOT)

71 I can see November from Wisconsin.

Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at June 10, 2012 12:09 PM (I2LwF)

72 72 Thanks, buzzion. Poor wittle ewok. I honestly don't think there is anyone "more deserving," but I do respect his integrity in the matter.

We're in the final weeks of "old" firm and the new one(s) will start up 7/1. Been super busy trying to dial all that in, but making progress. The hard part is that feeling of, well, it's over and I'm so over it and GACK why do I have to keep going back there? Nothing to do but suck it up, better days are in sight.

Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2012 04:06 PM (kpCLl)

 

I said in that thread that ace is the rock star that thinks his last album sucked to reference his post from the previous day.

 

And Peaches you really must get this and have it express delivered for you so you can use it before you leave your old firm.  http://tinyurl.com/yask2r

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2012 12:10 PM (GULKT)

73 >>What the hell happened over the past few days? I have been traveling.

>Joffen got a promotion!

Yeh, something about Ace, blah blah, anger, but the big news is Joffen's promotion and my new hash.

Posted by: Mama AJ at June 10, 2012 12:10 PM (SUKHu)

74 To me all three share the title of the most damaging President in history.

Posted by: Ed Anger Issues at June 10, 2012 04:08 PM (7+pP9)

 

Agreed, but with special mention to Our First Gay President, Buchanan.

Posted by: Ombudsman at June 10, 2012 12:11 PM (AxHOT)

75 Still trying to figure out how to deliver that line. Working on a first draft of a speech entitled "the Season of the Conservative."

Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at June 10, 2012 12:11 PM (I2LwF)

76 OT: Anyone catch Prometheus this weekend?

Posted by: Mister Christopher at June 10, 2012 12:11 PM (DQhAB)

77 Me, too, Ombudsman.  Living in LA, there's a better than even chance my car would be completely destroyed in short order.  I even worry about all the annoying GOP/conservative mail I get (none of which I actually want).  I worry that the postal carrier will perceive me as the enemy and do bad things to the mail I do want.  Probably just lunatic paranoia on my part, but it does cross my mind.

Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2012 12:12 PM (kpCLl)

78 Jimmy unintentionally destroyed America.

JEFOTUS in doing it by design.

Posted by: Nutmeg Moron at June 10, 2012 03:34 PM (Vg4Vv)


This implies that any of his plans work. I don't think the man is capable of successfully opening a jar of peanut butter.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 12:13 PM (IEUSX)

79 81 OT: Anyone catch Prometheus this weekend?

Posted by: Mister Christopher at June 10, 2012 04:11 PM (DQhAB)

 

Reviews from the morons seem mixed.  So I guess, its a watch it if you want, but don't go in expecting too much.

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2012 12:13 PM (GULKT)

80

Yeh, something about Ace, blah blah, anger, but the big news is Joffen's promotion and my new hash.


 

Posted by: Mama AJ at June 10, 2012 04:10 PM (SUKHu)

 

 

Yeah, the Chinese president was most excited, if I recall.

Posted by: ErikW at June 10, 2012 12:13 PM (pzKHN)

81

@20 Vic LBJ, FDR

If Obamacare not overturned, Barry could be your new leader in total destruction.

Posted by: old glazier at June 10, 2012 12:13 PM (KcINh)

82 73
I don't think Barack will live in the US. I think Michelle will divorce him after the Democrat minions scatter. She and the girls will probably settle down and, surprisingly, stay out of the limelight. She'll have some no-show corporate board and law firm partner jobs. They might spend a lot of their time in the south of France or Switzerland.

Michelle won't pull a Hillary. She thinks she has value unchained to Barack and is not nearly as Machiavellian as Hillary.

Barack will be a world traveler. About twice a year, if you pay attention, there'll be a big story about him spending time with his kids. Otherwise, he'll go between penthouse suites in Europe, the US and the Middle East.

I predict he'll have a huge office complex in Dubai.

Posted by: AmishDude at June 10, 2012 04:08 PM (J5tI6)


She won't leave him, and he will continue his other life on the down low. She can't get a job at a law firm because she "surrendered" her law license. If she reapplies for it, the reasons for the surrender will become public knowledge. Same thing for him. They will write books, make speeches, and sponge off of anyone who will let them.

Posted by: MrCaniac at June 10, 2012 12:15 PM (1grxW)

83
But the overall most damaging President in history was FDR followed closely by LBJ.

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 03:38 PM (YdQQY)


Not sure if Abraham Lincoln ought not to be in that mix somewhere. Sure, he did one good thing after the fact, but look at how he set the precedent for dictatorial Federal powers.

Woodrow Wilson also was pretty bad.




Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 12:15 PM (IEUSX)

84 i've said all along that the SCOAMF was deliberately sabotaging America... obviously Ace is a genius, as he agrees with me.

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 10, 2012 12:16 PM (8MasJ)

85
But the overall most damaging President in history was FDR followed closely by LBJ.

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 03:38 PM (YdQQY)


But those are good choices too. Of course Carter is responsible for the occurrence of the Iran/Iraq war, and I believe the casualties were well over a million people.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 12:16 PM (IEUSX)

86 She won't leave him, and he will continue his other life on the down low. She can't get a job at a law firm because she "surrendered" her law license. If she reapplies for it, the reasons for the surrender will become public knowledge. Same thing for him. They will write books, make speeches, and sponge off of anyone who will let them.

Posted by: MrCaniac at June 10, 2012 04:15 PM (1grxW)

I agree, with one extra prediction.  They will continue to whore themselves out to any teevee show that will have them, all the while maneuvering behind the scenes to try and get their own shows (particularly sasquatch).

Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2012 12:16 PM (kpCLl)

87 A blind guy  with  a dart would have made better foreign policy decisions than this guy.

Posted by: Lave Sus Manos at June 10, 2012 12:18 PM (Bm8H4)

88 It's who? Oh. Friggin' Barrack again.

Posted by: Ellen Degeneres at June 10, 2012 12:18 PM (IoNBC)

89 You can't forget too that Abe Lincoln was a badass vampire hunter.

Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at June 10, 2012 12:18 PM (I2LwF)

90 I even worry about all the annoying GOP/conservative mail I get (none of which I actually want).


Yeah,Peaches,  no kidding. I send Sarah Palin $50, first time in my life I have ever donated to a campaign, and now I'm positively slammed with gop shit from every gov/sen/rep/pac in the US of A.  Just beyond annoying.

Posted by: Derak at June 10, 2012 12:18 PM (bM0qI)

91 >>Yeah, the Chinese president was most excited, if I recall.

Well, there are worse presidents.


OH NO! I accidentally got back on topic.

<faints>

Posted by: Mama AJ at June 10, 2012 12:18 PM (SUKHu)

92 And let's not forget that he has several more autobiographies to produce.

Posted by: jonsten at June 10, 2012 12:19 PM (fVgpT)

93   I even worry about all the annoying GOP/conservative mail I get (none of which I actually want). Probably just lunatic paranoia on my part, but it does cross my mind.

Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2012 04:12 PM (kpCLl)

Crosses my mind, too.  Between subscriptions to National Review, Weekly Standard, etc. junk mail from every Conservative group possible..... I somehow got on serveral kook birther mailing lists, which I assume drives my black mail man crazy.   I also worry about my American Rifleman subscription.

Good thing the mail carriers know it's a Federal crime

Posted by: Ombudsman at June 10, 2012 12:19 PM (AxHOT)

94 Mama AJ, you ate funny! Loving your new hash are you?

Posted by: macintx at June 10, 2012 12:20 PM (ucs8Y)

95 Well now I see that Woodward & Bernstein have decided to drag out the Ole Nixon Watergate story. The libs have run out of any fucking thing to talk about. Remember the moron meet up is in D.C on 1-20-2013.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at June 10, 2012 12:20 PM (mFxQX)

96 Oh it is epic hash

Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at June 10, 2012 12:21 PM (I2LwF)

97 >>They will continue to whore themselves out to any teevee show that will have them

They'll try, but be very very disappointed and confused that nobody wants them around.

"What stench of failure? I don't smell anything!"

Posted by: Mama AJ at June 10, 2012 12:21 PM (SUKHu)

98

I hope that he is making enough enemies in his own party that once he leaves office the flood gates will open and we will hear all the crap he's done.

 

More likely they can't afford to insult an important part of their base and the lionization of Barack the Light Worker will continue.  Schools and streets named after him.  Scholarships in his name.  At awards shows.  He will just never go away like a bad ex.

Posted by: thunderb at June 10, 2012 12:22 PM (Dnbau)

99 I shall be there, Velveta Mbition.

Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at June 10, 2012 12:22 PM (I2LwF)

100

She won't leave him, and he will continue his other life on the down low. She can't get a job at a law firm because she "surrendered" her law license. If she reapplies for it, the reasons for the surrender will become public knowledge

 

Maybe. It still wouldn't preclude her being on corporate boards.  I'm not sure that her surrendering her law license was all that sinister (what could she have done? she didn't actually do anything of consequence), it could just be that she didn't want to pay bar dues or something.

 

See, I think Michelle has utter contempt for Hillary and what she's done vis-a-vis staying with Bill.  I also don't think she has her own national political ambitions. I think she sees a future of more magazine covers.

Posted by: AmishDude at June 10, 2012 12:23 PM (J5tI6)

101 Tonight on WWE Smackdown-- Butterbean vs. Barracka!!!

Posted by: Vince McMahon at June 10, 2012 12:24 PM (IoNBC)

102 MrCaniac, they both surrendered their law licenses? I am probably the last to know that Very odd don't you think? Why would one do that?

Posted by: macintx at June 10, 2012 12:24 PM (ucs8Y)

103 I kinda disagree on this one because FDR built upon the work of Woodrow Wilson, the asshole that ensured WW II. LBJ, in turn, built upon the damages wrought by FDR. Although FDR's first 100 days were unarguably the worst in American history he was only standing atop the shoulders of the asshole who got the ball rolling. LBJ,in turn, stood atop the shoulders of FDR.

To me all three share the title of the most damaging President in history.

Posted by: Ed Anger Issues at June 10, 2012 04:08 PM (7+pP9)


A topic I post on occasionally is the notion that pretty much all the absolute worst and most horrible Presidents were Democrats.  Andrew Jackson was the first Democrat President, and what he did that was really terrible was to push the Indian Relocation Act. Basically he stole all the land from the Indians in the South, and gave them to white settlers. Whether they used the land for slave plantations,  I do not know for certain, but It can be surmised that they did.

Woodrow Wilson was horrible, FDR was HORRIBLE, Truman was bad, Kennedy was bad, Johnson was horrible, Carter was Horrible, Clinton was utter garbage, and this current nitwit has been continuously restrained from beating FDR's record for horrible, but not for lack of trying.

Basically, the world would be a better place if there never were any Democrat Presidents.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 12:24 PM (IEUSX)

104

OH NO! I accidentally got back on topic.



<faints>


 

Posted by: Mama AJ at June 10, 2012 04:18 PM (SUKHu)

 

 

JEEVES! Fetch the swooning couch, post hate!

Posted by: ErikW at June 10, 2012 12:25 PM (pzKHN)

105 @75... A few hours ago, I saw a pony-tailed fella and his hippy-ish woman get out of a nice Subaru Forester. In the back window was a large sticker that declared "Obama sucks!". This was in Illinois!

Posted by: lizabth at June 10, 2012 12:26 PM (JZBti)

106 Alex, what did you do to your knee?   How can you still be in bed at 4pm and yet think you're going to try to run a mile later?   What kind of physical therapy program are you on?  

Posted by: Derak at June 10, 2012 12:26 PM (bM0qI)

107

Testes...Testes.

Capsaicin...Capsaicin.

 

Posted by: garrett at June 10, 2012 12:27 PM (b23ex)

108 You can't forget too that Abe Lincoln was a badass vampire hunter.

Posted by:Truman North at June 10, 2012 04:18 PM (I2LwF)


And Zombies too. I just saw it a couple of days ago.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 12:27 PM (IEUSX)

109 Truman, you just gave me a new handle.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at June 10, 2012 12:27 PM (mFxQX)

110 It is obvious I am a horrible typist. Today more than usual. My apologies.

Posted by: macintx at June 10, 2012 12:27 PM (ucs8Y)

111 Moochie will return to doing walk-on parts as a Klingon. No makeup needed. 

Posted by: Lave Sus Manos at June 10, 2012 12:27 PM (Bm8H4)

112

er, post haste

 

Posted by: ErikW at June 10, 2012 12:28 PM (pzKHN)

113 She won't leave him, and he will continue his other life on the down low. She can't get a job at a law firm because she "surrendered" her law license. If she reapplies for it, the reasons for the surrender will become public knowledge. Same thing for him. They will write books, make speeches, and sponge off of anyone who will let them.

Michelle will likely continue her "get everyone moving" and healthy eating campaigns, only as a consultant to organizations about how they can reform their policies and products.  It will be a kind of payoff.  They hire her, she (or more likely her lackys) recommend some changes or a new donation fund or something, the companies pay her off and get a stamp of approval.

Posted by: Alex at June 10, 2012 12:28 PM (aNu4E)

114 MrCaniac, they both surrendered their law licenses? I am probably the last to know that Very odd don't you think? Why would one do that?

Posted by: macintx at June 10, 2012 04:24 PM (ucs8Y)

Probably to save time once the felony indictments come for being judge, jury, and executioner by proxy via Predators.

Imagine if Bush had done that?  The articles of impeachment would have been written posthaste.

Posted by: Ombudsman at June 10, 2012 12:28 PM (AxHOT)

115  This was in Illinois!

Posted by: lizabth at June 10, 2012 04:26 PM (JZBti)

 

We have a drone following them, now. 

Just waiting to confirm they are on the 'kill list'.

Posted by: Janet Napolitano at June 10, 2012 12:28 PM (b23ex)

116 Yeah,Peaches, no kidding. I send Sarah Palin $50, first time in my life I have ever donated to a campaign, and now I'm positively slammed with gop shit from every gov/sen/rep/pac in the US of A. Just beyond annoying.

Posted by: Derak at June 10, 2012 04:18 PM (bM0qI)


Yup, i'm getting bombarded by GOP candidate spam too.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 12:29 PM (IEUSX)

117 They weren't practicing law anyway.  They didn't go to trial or counsel clients.  She had no show jobs and he taught and community organized.  To keep your license you have to take so many hours of continuing legal education classes per year and pay a fee.  If you aren't going to actually practice law it is unecessary.  They never really practiced law. They never intended to practice law in long term.  They are old-fashioned "race men" in the mold of Sharpton.  What they wanted to do, and make money at, had nothing to do with the practice of law.  They needed the degree for entre.  Thats all. 

Posted by: thunderb at June 10, 2012 12:29 PM (Dnbau)

118 Any AZ residents around? Trying to figure out why AZ-8 is getting zero coverage in the news.

Posted by: soothsayer, for your own good at June 10, 2012 12:29 PM (vzLhi)

119 >post hate!

>>er, post haste

And here I was, thinking it was a subtle reference to the New Blog Tone.


Posted by: Mama AJ at June 10, 2012 12:31 PM (SUKHu)

120 Also, Cubs fans: Are you ready to run Theo Epstein out of town?

Posted by: soothsayer, for your own good at June 10, 2012 12:31 PM (KwX0v)

121 Alex, what did you do to your knee? How can you still be in bed at 4pm and yet think you're going to try to run a mile later? What kind of physical therapy program are you on?

It's only 1:30 here, and I was up earlier to eat breakfast and shoot some pool.  I'm just back to lounging on the bed because it's Sunday and I'm lazy.

I fell off a dirtbike last Sunday and scraped up my arm pretty well.  I also landed on my knee.  It's fine, it just hurt after walking around downtown Portland for an hours or so on Friday, so I figure that I needed to give it a couple more days of rest.  I figure a slow jog on Monday to see how it feels.

Posted by: Alex at June 10, 2012 12:32 PM (aNu4E)

122 123

Any AZ residents around?

Trying to figure out why AZ-8 is getting zero coverage in the news.

Posted by: soothsayer, for your own good at June 10, 2012 04:29 PM (vzLhi)


What is AZ-8?  Since there's been zero news coverage, I sure don't know but would like to.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2012 12:33 PM (lJJMb)

123

And here I was, thinking it was a subtle reference to the New Blog Tone.




 

Posted by: Mama AJ at June 10, 2012 04:31 PM (SUKHu)

 

 

If I were paranoid, I'd say that I'm a sooper sekrit double-triple agent sent to by the Bilderbergs to undermine this blog but I'm not.

 

 

Or am I?

Posted by: ErikW at June 10, 2012 12:34 PM (pzKHN)

124 125
Also, Cubs fans: Are you ready to run Theo Epstein out of town?

Posted by: soothsayer, for your own good at June 10, 2012 04:31 PM (KwX0v)


Hell no - Rome wasn't built in a day, and the empty land that was the foundation didn't have a century-long track record of failure, incompetence, and misery.  On the plus side, they're up 6-0 over the Twinkies right now.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2012 12:35 PM (lJJMb)

125

Posted by: Alex at June 10, 2012 04:32 PM (aNu4E)

 

Speedwalk it off?

Posted by: garrett at June 10, 2012 12:36 PM (b23ex)

126 My prediction for Obama's future...Despite his claiming that at some point you have made enough money, leaving the Presidency a multi-millionaire won't be enough for him.  He'll go on a book writing and speaking tour de force and rake in millions as organizations and individuals pay this fool big bucks to spew more poisonous ideas.  Ultimately, he'll make tens of millions selling his special brand of bull$hit.  Free from the constraints of the Presidency he'll travel the globe with Reggie Love and other boyfriends of choice in his posse.  Americans finally having awakened from the nightmare of the Obama Presidency will never invite him back into their hearts.  Liberal pundits will wax eloquently of what could have been...

Posted by: Don't hate the player at June 10, 2012 12:36 PM (cBYCG)

127 Special election for Giffords' seat, AZ-8, is this Tuesday. Her aide is running for the seat and thd R is Jesse Kelly who lost in 2010 by only 4K votes.

Posted by: soothsayer, for your own good at June 10, 2012 12:36 PM (BUcLz)

128 *Delurk*

Look around

No comment


*Relurk*

Posted by: sandman says mumble, mumblle, mumble at June 10, 2012 12:36 PM (zxaA2)

129 4 He is FAR WORSE than Jimmy Carter. Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 03:14 PM (IEUSX) Carter at least understood America was fundmentally good.

Posted by: CoolCzech at June 10, 2012 12:37 PM (niZvt)

130 Just saw that the Obama Girl - you know, the girl in the video with the big rack from the 2008 campaign - won't endorse Obama this time around.   Like rats off a sinking ship.....

Posted by: Ombudsman at June 10, 2012 12:37 PM (AxHOT)

131

They didn't go to trial or counsel clients.

 

We don't have any of their client lists (of course) but IIRC, the only real law work Barack did was to berate Citibank into making subprime loans.

Posted by: AmishDude at June 10, 2012 12:38 PM (J5tI6)

Posted by: sandman says mumble, mumblle, mumble at June 10, 2012 12:38 PM (zxaA2)

133 Marxist and Socialist also think Obama is "incompetent".  He didn't get enough crap done.  The Marxist or Socialist inclined members of Congress need to lose their veils and be exposed as well.
 

Posted by: Deli LLama at June 10, 2012 12:39 PM (uv9eO)

134 Special election for Giffords' seat, AZ-8, is this Tuesday.

Her aide is running for the seat and thd R is Jesse Kelly who lost in 2010 by only 4K votes.

Posted by: soothsayer, for your own good at June 10, 2012 04:36 PM (BUcLz)

 

Her aide will win by landslide.  Sympathy vote.

Posted by: Ombudsman at June 10, 2012 12:39 PM (AxHOT)

135 But the Cubs are even are worse than they were before Epstein. He's kinda like Obama in a way. Came in as a savior-figure only to have an even worse record than his predecessor.

Posted by: soothsayer, for your own good at June 10, 2012 12:39 PM (KreG+)

136 "Liberal pundits will wax eloquently of what could have been..." Ah, it was a magical time, those days of Cramalot...

Posted by: Thomas Friedman at June 10, 2012 12:39 PM (IoNBC)

137 135 Just saw that the Obama Girl - you know, the girl in the video with the big rack from the 2008 campaign - won't endorse Obama this time around. Like rats off a sinking ship.....

Posted by: Ombudsman at June 10, 2012 04:37 PM (AxHOT)

 

She already did that stupid Grease song.  And she didn't even vote the last time around.  I bet there's an article around September of her wanting Obama to have a second term.

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2012 12:40 PM (GULKT)

138 Well you learn something new everyday here. Thanks for the info. Are the fees and continuing education hours a hefty amount? I only ask because I renew my RN license every two years, There is a fee and you must take so many continuing education hours. Really not a big deal. I haven' worked as a nurse in quite a few years but haven't let my license lapse in case I need to fall back on it.

Posted by: macintx at June 10, 2012 12:41 PM (ucs8Y)

139 Moochy will become CEO of McDonald's and introduce Big McTofus. Barky will become head of the Iranian secret police.

Posted by: Tightie Rightie at June 10, 2012 12:41 PM (OfDMM)

140 (The Hill) — President Obama’s campaign is calling on supporters to grade its performance amid a difficult early June for his reelection bid against presumptive GOP nominee Mitt Romney. ... Respondents are also prompted to “rate the performance of the campaign so far” on a scale with 7 for “great” and 1 for “poor” and to describe their enthusiasm for the president and his campaign on a scale from “very enthusiastic” to “not enthusiastic at all.”

Posted by: Ms Flame at June 10, 2012 12:41 PM (e8kgV)

141 I wouldn't say zero coverage: http://scoamf.us/vq

Just pretty darn close to it.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 10, 2012 12:42 PM (xKC/c)

142 The funny thing is that Red Sox are doing lousy, too. Just got swept by the Expos/Nationals.

Posted by: soothsayer, for your own good at June 10, 2012 12:42 PM (8dspl)

143

Only sixty-two more dances to sit through and this recital is over.  And my father-in-law forgot to bring the Scotch.

 

The terrorists have won.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 10, 2012 12:42 PM (j7/ZK)

144

New H. L. Mencken quote (shamelessly stolen from Michelle's Mirror)

 

 

The government consists of a gang of men exactly like you and me. They have, taking one with another, no special talent for the business of government; they have only a talent for getting and holding office.

Posted by: Ma Bell at June 10, 2012 12:43 PM (uVuwp)

145 75--i put a Romney sticker on my subaru a week ago (we live on the Main Line.) No violence yet, but the neighbors are averting their eyes. The Bush sticker in 2004 was much worse. Missed the weekend follies, but now that I'm caught up I want to say Ace, you made the right call. Stay safe out there.

Posted by: dulce at June 10, 2012 12:44 PM (+55AZ)

146 Respondents are also prompted to “rate the performance of the campaign so far” on a scale with 7 for “great” and 1 for “poor” and to describe their enthusiasm for the president and his campaign on a scale from “very enthusiastic” to “not enthusiastic at all.” Posted by: Ms Flame at June 10, 2012 04:41 PM (e8kgV) How about, "Would rather crawl naked over broken glass than miss chance to vote against this turd?"

Posted by: CoolCzech at June 10, 2012 12:44 PM (niZvt)

147 i put a Romney sticker on my subaru a week ago (we live on the Main Line.) No violence yet, but the neighbors are averting their eyes. The Bush sticker in 2004 was much worse.
  

Yours is probably the only Subaru in America with a Romney sticker.

Posted by: Ombudsman at June 10, 2012 12:45 PM (AxHOT)

148 Whether they used the land for slave plantations, I do not know for certain, but It can be surmised that they did.



Actually no.  The Cherokee land was in North GA in the hills and mountains.  The age old reason for greed is what made them want to steal the Cherokee land; gold.

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 12:45 PM (YdQQY)

149 The terrorists have won. Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 10, 2012 04:42 PM (j7/ZK) Hell, I knew that when I saw Michelle's inaugural ball gown.

Posted by: CoolCzech at June 10, 2012 12:45 PM (niZvt)

150 Marxist and Socialist also think Obama is "incompetent". He didn't get enough crap done

Oh, that reminds me, I haven't checked of FireDogLake in months.  brb

Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2012 12:45 PM (kpCLl)

151 140
But the Cubs are even are worse than they were before Epstein.

He's kinda like Obama in a way. Came in as a savior-figure only to have an even worse record than his predecessor.

Posted by: soothsayer, for your own good at June 10, 2012 04:39 PM (KreG+)


He laid out his plan, and acknowledged that immediate success was not in the cards.  The cupboard is pretty bare at the AA and AAA levels, so the whole organization needs rebuilding - it's a long process.  I'd guess another couple bad seasons are coming before signs of improvement start showing and they have a chance to contend for the division, if even then.  He still has to deal with the Soriano contract, find pitching, etc.  Unlike Obama, Epstein did come into the job with proven track record of success and accomplishment, so he deserves some time.


One good sign is that for the first time in many years, the Cubs rank at the bottom of the league in dollars committed to current players in 2013, so the cash needed to start making moves will be available in the very-near future.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2012 12:45 PM (lJJMb)

152 I'm coming.

Posted by: Preference Cascade at June 10, 2012 12:47 PM (IoNBC)

153 Only sixty-two more dances to sit through and this recital is over. And my father-in-law forgot to bring the Scotch.

You're not doing the "Dad's Dance" at the end?


Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 10, 2012 12:47 PM (xKC/c)

154 I'm keeping a sharp eye out for a "NObama" bumper sticker. Surely someone's thought of that idea? And one particularly obnoxious bumper sticker I saw here in CT last year was, "Proudly Voted for Obama: Yes, THAT One!" I'd luv to sport a "Proudly Voted Obama Out of Office: Yes, THAT One!" sticker on our Prius come December.

Posted by: CoolCzech at June 10, 2012 12:48 PM (niZvt)

155 48 What the hell happened over the past few days? I have been traveling. Posted by: jewells45

Bad stuff.

Rants. Deleted comments Closed comments sections. Open comments just for now. The looming threat of registration.

The good news is that we will not be given up and down ding buttons. We'll still have to "twinkle."

Posted by: Dianna at June 10, 2012 12:49 PM (mKMj1)

156 OMG, those asshats at FDL put up a "dead Breitbart" p'shop competition.  All exceedingly lame, but blasphemous all the same.  I want to do bad things to them.

Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2012 12:49 PM (kpCLl)

157 157 "I'm coming." Posted by: Preference Cascade at June 10, 2012 04:47 PM (IoNBC) **************** *Tossing you a box of Kleenex*

Posted by: CoolCzech at June 10, 2012 12:49 PM (niZvt)

158

Barack and Michelle will have a wonderful future ahead of them. When they leave the White House, they will return to Hyde Park and start attending the church where they were married, again.  They will be fast friends with the Mayor of Chicago and help him restore that city to the greatness it once had.  And then, they will join the World Bank and IMF together into "The Obama Checking Account Christmas and Ramadan Savings Club", to help finance an Islamic space program.

 

And this all takes place in the universe where Spock has a beard.

 

In this world, Barack and Michelle return to Hyde Park and get Bill Ayers to write  another turgid autobiography all about Barack called "All About Me".  Michelle stalks Oprah Winfrey until she gives here a show on the Oprah Network called "Bad Ideas in Fashion", which will only last for 13 episodes and cancelled due to non-existent ratings and advertisers. Oprah sues the Obamas for damages and is then found in the Chicago River with a stomach full of aspirin, and a suicide note babbling about being the daughter of a share cropper and that her hair should be purple.  Whatever.

Michelle and Barack travel the world (except Kenya), and basically badmouth everybody, while their Secret Service detail tries to avoid total depresssion by hiring out high priced hookers.  Hilarity ensues.  The Clintons hold a welcome home party for the Obamas in Fort Marcy Park outside DC, but they shrewdly decline and instead go to see George Soros, who pretends he never ever heard of them and doesn't give them the time of day.  So they go to visit Warren Buffet, who gives them some sage advice to buy stock in Berkshire Hathaway (because he is the Sage of Omaha, haha).

But don't worry about them!  Rezko and Blagojevich will be out of prison someday, and then they can mount some kinda comeback.  Yeah, that's the ticket.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at June 10, 2012 12:50 PM (sJTmU)

159 >>>I agree, with one extra prediction. They will continue to whore themselves out to any teevee show that will have them, all the while maneuvering behind the scenes to try and get their own shows (particularly sasquatch).

Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2012 04:16 PM (kpCLl)  <<<


I bet he ends up on the Oprah Network "slowjamming the news", and Michelle could do an combo exercise/healthy eating show. Come to think of it, maybe this has been in the works since her network is the OWN, it could go from "Oprah Winfrey Network" to the "Obama Winfrey Network" very easily.


>>>Maybe. It still wouldn't preclude her being on corporate boards. I'm not sure that her surrendering her law license was all that sinister (what could she have done? she didn't actually do anything of consequence), it could just be that she didn't want to pay bar dues or something.

See, I think Michelle has utter contempt for Hillary and what she's done vis-a-vis staying with Bill. I also don't think she has her own national political ambitions. I think she sees a future of more magazine covers.

Posted by: AmishDude at June 10, 2012 04:23 PM (J5tI6) <<<


I have been in real estate for 22 years, and in that time, I have seen very few people surrender their licenses voluntarily. Some do for financial reasons, it costs $80 every other year to keep it, but the difference is that you only need 45 hours of education to be able to sit for the salesperson license, roughly one week of classes. A law license entails a lot more education requirements than that. I know of a bunch of lawyers that stopped practicing law, but they kept their licenses "inactive". They still pay a fee, but they will have to go through continuing education to get their license back to active.

>>>

107 MrCaniac, they both surrendered their law licenses? I am probably the last to know that Very odd don't you think? Why would one do that?

Posted by: macintx at June 10, 2012 04:24 PM (ucs8Y) <<<


One surrenders their license because of a complaint being filed. Most of the time the licensing authority will start an investigation, and the inform the licensee of that investigation. If the licensee voluntarily surrenders their license, the investigation stops. Once that happens, the whole matter goes away saving everyone from embarrassment.

Posted by: MrCaniac at June 10, 2012 12:51 PM (1grxW)

160 I say FDR was the worst because he and the Democrat Congress of the time turned the country into the road to socialism with all the new deal legislation that FDR wanted. The only thing they refused was the 100% income tax rate although they did give him 75% and then 97% later.  He also packed the court with socialist liberals over 4 terms.  We still have not recovered from that.  Imagine if RR had been President for 4 terms and had a real conservative Senate.


I say LBJ was the next worst because he finished off what little capitalism was left and expanded the useless Vietnam war, thus turning an entire generation against the military and killing patriotism in this country.

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 12:51 PM (YdQQY)

161 Wait, you mean Jimmy Carter isn't president?

Posted by: Travis at June 10, 2012 12:51 PM (9WkMB)

162 To keep your license you have to take so many hours of continuing legal education classes per year and pay a fee. If you aren't going to actually practice law it is unecessary.


It's not necessarily expensive to keep up but it's an enormous pain in the ass. If you don't plan on practicing, there's no point at all in going through the hassle. Not to mention that you don't have to worry about keeping malpractice insurance.  If the plan was to do something else, it makes sense to surrender the license and then reapply for it later if necessary.


That's not to say that's what happened, the point is that we don't know what happened.  It could have been for innocent reasons or it could have been an agreement in lieu of public sanctions.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 10, 2012 12:53 PM (yTtpr)

163 I tell ya, that Bobby Jindal is one smart feller.  He can spot two of the biggest losers in the Democrat deck with no problem at all.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at June 10, 2012 12:53 PM (6USwK)

164 Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at June 10, 2012 04:50 PM (phlKA)


I think that is the general consensus. They used it in small amounts for jewelry, particularly the ones in the Southwest.

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 12:53 PM (YdQQY)

165 I think a good title for Obama's memories would be But Enough About Me: Let's Talk About Me. Or maybe, Anatomy of a Grifter: the Barry Soetero Story.

Posted by: CoolCzech at June 10, 2012 12:54 PM (niZvt)

166 A liberal told me that white people were never welcome in America. I accept that he won't change his view. Acceptance makes me happy.

Posted by: Happy at June 10, 2012 12:55 PM (lkdo/)

167

Barack Obama will be the first ex-president to host SNL. 

 

I believe they were once trying to get Clinton to host it, but I thought money was an issue or perhaps something else.  That won't be a problem for the SCOAMF because he won't care about the money only the adulation from the NYC idiots that sit in the show's audience.

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2012 12:55 PM (GULKT)

168 Carter at least understood America was fundmentally good.

Posted by: CoolCzech at June 10, 2012 04:37 PM (niZvt)


I'll give him that.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 12:55 PM (IEUSX)

169 I see someone above mentioned being put on the inactive list, I forgot to mention that.  That's usually what people do instead of a surrender which makes me a little more suspicious as to what happened.  It is, however, possible for it to have been unrelated to some kind of ethics complaint. 

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 10, 2012 12:55 PM (yTtpr)

170

Jindal concluded that Obama is “the most liberal, most incompetent president in the White House since Jimmy Carter.”

Billy Cliton was probably more sexually liberal than Obama. Obama is more of a social conservative than Clinton? I think Clinton is happy.

Posted by: Happy at June 10, 2012 12:56 PM (lkdo/)

171

posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 04:53 PM (YdQQY)

 

They much preferred beads and trinkets.

Posted by: garrett at June 10, 2012 12:57 PM (b23ex)

172

142
135 Just saw that the Obama Girl - you know, the girl in the video with the big rack from the 2008 campaign - won't endorse Obama this time around. Like rats off a sinking ship.....
Posted by: Ombudsman at June 10, 2012 04:37 PM (AxHOT)

 

There's a rock in my yard I call The Obama Rock.  Its only accomplishment is stubbing my toe.  Even it won't endorse the SCOAMF this time around. 

And I have just been diagnosed with adnotamentumaphobia.  It's a struggle but I'm coping. 

Posted by: Riding Through The Desert On A Sock With No Name at June 10, 2012 12:57 PM (MG6Y6)

173 Just saw that the Obama Girl - you know, the girl in the video with the big rack from the 2008 campaign - won't endorse Obama this time around. Like rats off a sinking ship.....

Posted by: Ombudsman at June 10, 2012 04:37 PM (AxHOT)


I saw a story many months ago which claimed she wasn't an Obama supporter in the first place. She was hired by a company to produce that video claiming that she loved Obama. It was just an acting gig.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 12:57 PM (IEUSX)

174

President ObamaÂ’s campaign is calling on supporters to grade its performance amid a difficult early June for his reelection bid against presumptive GOP nominee Mitt Romney.

 

One disadvantage to the Democrats of their MSM support is that they'll soon be suffering from thousands of campaign managers. 

Posted by: AmishDude at June 10, 2012 12:57 PM (J5tI6)

175 Some of the legal blogs I used to follow said that they both had allowed the law license to go inactive because they were not using it and didn't have the time to dedicate to the requirements for maintaining them active.

They have not dropped their license and they were certainly NOT disbarred as some people have said.

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 12:57 PM (YdQQY)

176 #161 - Peaches - What do we expect? It's FDL. The only taste they have is bad.

Posted by: Dianna at June 10, 2012 12:58 PM (mKMj1)

177 Carter at least understood America was fundmentally good.



Posted by: CoolCzech at June 10, 2012 04:37 PM (niZvt)

I'll give him that.


****

Well, he felt that way three decades ago but now, the way he inflicts himself on the international diplomacy scene, I wouldn't bet on it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2012 12:59 PM (piMMO)

178 macintx writes: 143 Well you learn something new everyday here. Thanks for the info. Are the fees and continuing education hours a hefty amount? Well, the rules governing bar requirements are different in every state. Not all states have a continuing legal education requirement (mine doesn't). In my state the annual bar dues are ~$200 or so. If you're not actively practicing you can also register "inactive" and the dues are cut by half. Or you can "retire", and pay nothing but I think if you later "unretire" they make you pay all the previously unpaid bar dues, so better to go inactive if there's any chance you might come back.

Posted by: Boston12GS at June 10, 2012 12:59 PM (rdSyJ)

179 yeah, Carter was incompetent but confused


Obama is incompetent but purposeful.  ---Big difference, there is

Posted by: SantaRosaStan, semi-angry but not senile yet at June 10, 2012 01:00 PM (Dll6b)

180 Actually no. The Cherokee land was in North GA in the hills and mountains. The age old reason for greed is what made them want to steal the Cherokee land; gold.

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 04:45 PM (YdQQY)

It wasn't just the Cherokee's land that was stolen. My recollection was that they also took the lands of the Choctaw, the Chickasaw, the Creek, etc, and even tried to get the land from the Seminole. 

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 01:00 PM (IEUSX)

181 Never welcome? Doesn't that make the indians racist bigots and xenophobes?

Posted by: soothsayer, for your own good at June 10, 2012 01:00 PM (GcwH1)

182 It's criminal how Marxist child-thought corrupts otherwise decent minds. It's like a permanent wound in their brains. Look at Jimmy Carter - a serviceman on a nuke sub. 59th in his class of 820 in Annapolis - not bad at all. But when it came to real life, the guy was a dribbling imbecile, barely able to tie his shoes when it came to economics. And he was a dolt of several brilliant colors for the amnesty, when he let back in thousands of traitors. Plus his affection for antisemitic movements like the Soviets and the PLO have permanently harmed America. Complete waste. Could have been a decent man, ended up a babbling, festering retard.

Posted by: Inspector Asshole at June 10, 2012 01:00 PM (YSyyZ)

183 I lusted after a rabbit in my heart.

Posted by: Jimmah Carter at June 10, 2012 01:01 PM (IoNBC)

184 Some of the legal blogs I used to follow said that they both had allowed the law license to go inactive because they were not using it and didn't have the time to dedicate to the requirements for maintaining them active.

They have not dropped their license and they were certainly NOT disbarred as some people have said.



Pfffft, stop bringing in boring facts and stuff.



Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 10, 2012 01:01 PM (yTtpr)

185 Did any of you read that story linked in the sidebar about Bammy and the presidential historians?  Good stuff.  What a fuckin' buffoon he is.

Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2012 01:01 PM (kpCLl)

186 that movie has it all wrong, BTW.  ----John Wilkes Booth thought LINCOLN was a vampire.

Posted by: SantaRosaStan, not funny but not angry at June 10, 2012 01:01 PM (Dll6b)

187 I can see November from Wisconsin.

Posted by: Truman North at June 10, 2012 04:09 PM (I2LwF) 

----------


Ya. I got that one.




Posted by: mama winger at June 10, 2012 01:02 PM (P6QsQ)

188 One disadvantage to the Democrats of their MSM support is that they'll soon be suffering from thousands of campaign managers.

Posted by: AmishDude at June 10, 2012 04:57 PM (J5tI6)


I hope they get tons of feedback from progressive true-believers, and that they follow all that advice to a T.  If so, the Strategic Pudding Reserve will have to be tapped due to enormous demand, because dipping in yogurt would be gauche.  I'm assuming the proper flavor for a Romney win is plain old vanilla.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2012 01:02 PM (lJJMb)

189 192 that movie has it all wrong, BTW. ----John Wilkes Booth thought LINCOLN was a vampire.

Posted by: SantaRosaStan, not funny but not angry at June 10, 2012 05:01 PM (Dll6b)

 

Nah, he shot him in the head.  Clearly he thought he was a zombie.

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2012 01:02 PM (GULKT)

190 Don't read this and don't start doing it here.

Posted by: Mama AJ at June 10, 2012 01:03 PM (SUKHu)

191 Peaches writes: 161 OMG, those asshats at FDL put up a "dead Breitbart" p'shop competition. All exceedingly lame, but blasphemous all the same. I want to do bad things to them. The most painful wound you could inflict is to crush them in the culture war, to see them driven before you from their PEU/academic bunkers, and to hear the lamentations of their girlie men.

Posted by: Boston12GS at June 10, 2012 01:04 PM (rdSyJ)

192 One surrenders their license because of a complaint being filed. Most of the time the licensing authority will start an investigation, and the inform the licensee of that investigation. If the licensee voluntarily surrenders their license, the investigation stops. Once that happens, the whole matter goes away saving everyone from embarrassment. Posted by: MrCaniac Well, well well... that seem to be another hush-hush by the Obamas. Very secretive about many things. I wonder how much we will ever find out about them.

Posted by: macintx at June 10, 2012 01:05 PM (ucs8Y)

193 M&M's,,make me happy.

Posted by: Happy at June 10, 2012 01:05 PM (lkdo/)

194 192 that movie has it all wrong, BTW. ----John Wilkes Booth thought LINCOLN was a vampire.

Posted by: SantaRosaStan, not funny but not angry at June 10, 2012 05:01 PM (Dll6b)


Naah...no wooden stake.  And don't even start with silver bullets.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2012 01:05 PM (lJJMb)

195 Don't read this and don't start doing it here.


The Reagan one is hilarious.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 10, 2012 01:06 PM (yTtpr)

196 >>>It's not necessarily expensive to keep up but it's an enormous pain in the ass. If you don't plan on practicing, there's no point at all in going through the hassle. Not to mention that you don't have to worry about keeping malpractice insurance. If the plan was to do something else, it makes sense to surrender the license and then reapply for it later if necessary.


That's not to say that's what happened, the point is that we don't know what happened. It could have been for innocent reasons or it could have been an agreement in lieu of public sanctions.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 10, 2012 04:53 PM (yTtpr)<<<


If your license is inactive, you do not pay the insurance because you are not practicing law.

>>>

181 Some of the legal blogs I used to follow said that they both had allowed the law license to go inactive because they were not using it and didn't have the time to dedicate to the requirements for maintaining them active.

They have not dropped their license and they were certainly NOT disbarred as some people have said.

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 04:57 PM (YdQQY)<<<


"Inactive" and "surrendered" are not interchangeable. You have to apply to have your license to go inactive. You must mail your license back in when you surrender it. As for being disbarred, no they were not disbarred, and I didn't say they had been disbarred. When someone has their license revoked (disbarment), it is very public. When someone surrenders their license, it is "voluntary". Sometimes people give up their licenses voluntarily, but most of the time when they "surrender" them, they do so to stop an investigation which will not be kind to them.

Posted by: MrCaniac at June 10, 2012 01:07 PM (1grxW)

197 Yep, that was the best one.

So far...

Posted by: Mama AJ at June 10, 2012 01:07 PM (SUKHu)

198 I say LBJ was the next worst because he finished off what little capitalism was left and expanded the useless Vietnam war, thus turning an entire generation against the military and killing patriotism in this country.

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 04:51 PM (YdQQY)


Not to mention his creation of  "vote farming" via the welfare system. The Secondary effects of his "war on poverty" are still killing and immiserating people every day. It has had a substantial impact on the breakup of marriage as an institution and has likewise created a multitude of bad consequences for society as a whole.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 01:07 PM (IEUSX)

199

197 Don't read this and don't start doing it here.

 

Heh.  Slightly related, on the dark site yesterday somebody linked to twitchy how the liberals had created the hash #DOH meaning Denial Of Hash to indicate when conservatives had taken over one of their hashtags.  So what happened?  Well conservatives took over the #DOH hashtag.

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2012 01:08 PM (GULKT)

200 11 "Sometimes when I look at my children I say to myself, Lillian, you should have stayed a virgin." -Lillian Carter Posted by: Doctor Fish at June 10, 2012 03:18 PM (hvwLi) Oldie but goodie: Q - What does Jimmy Carter have in common with the Long Island Railroad? A - They both pull out of Roslyn at 6:45

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2012 01:08 PM (MCDCp)

201 Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 05:00 PM (IEUSX)


But the big case that Jackson was involved in as President was the Cherokee.  The court ruled against him and he ignored the court order. He made his infamous statement about them making their decision, let them enforce it.

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 01:08 PM (YdQQY)

202 Liberal pickup line: You'll have to take off my pants to find out what's in them. - Chaz Bono

Posted by: soothsayer, for your own good at June 10, 2012 01:09 PM (vyPsz)

203 I take a weekend off to do so fishing, and camping, I get back, and the HQ has had a total meltdown? What happened?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at June 10, 2012 01:09 PM (GE1+K)

204 alexthechick writes: 168 Not to mention that you don't have to worry about keeping malpractice insurance. Huh? Why would one even HAVE malpractice insurance if they're not actually practicing law (as the Obama's weren't)? No offense, and there may well be a good reason, but I don't see it.

Posted by: Boston12GS at June 10, 2012 01:09 PM (rdSyJ)

205 God, I hope formatting is available on the new site.

Posted by: MrCaniac at June 10, 2012 01:10 PM (1grxW)

206 Posted by: MrCaniac at June 10, 2012 05:07 PM (1grxW)


I never said you said that. Some have said it.  There was a lot of people in the blog world who were saying they were disbarred.

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 01:10 PM (YdQQY)

207 65 He wants your feedback:

http://www.barackobama.com/share-your-feedback

Posted by: jonsten at June 10, 2012 04:03 PM (fVgpT) 

 

A few 100,000 opposite George answers done the right way could really screw with those idiots.      

Posted by: rightlysouthern at June 10, 2012 01:10 PM (dM5QS)

208 UK wipes mud from eyes, sees what a mess they've made.

Criminal immigrants a socialist tearducts hardest hit.

http://bit.ly/O9eBCu

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2012 01:10 PM (piMMO)

209 yes, LBJ was the worst evah.  Sixty thousand dead American concur.


face down in the mud, etc.  Lots of real Walter Sobchaks created.  And more

Posted by: SantaRosaStan, not funny but not angry at June 10, 2012 01:11 PM (Dll6b)

210 Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 04:51 PM (YdQQY) The usefulness of the Vietnam war is certainly debatable. How the war was fought was not; it was fought to be politically correct, micromanaged to maximize US and Vietnamese deaths and in the last analysis not fought to win. Nixon won it, and then the Democratic congress of 1974 abrogated our treaty obligations, creating the killing fields and the deaths of millions. The Democrat Party has this blood, and the blood of many others, directly on its hands.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2012 01:11 PM (MCDCp)

211

Conservative progressives and liberal progressives? Is there any difference?

Progressive capitalists? So many flavors of progressives.

Posted by: Happy at June 10, 2012 01:14 PM (lkdo/)

212 Huh? Why would one even HAVE malpractice insurance if they're not actually practicing law (as the Obama's weren't)? No offense, and there may well be a good reason, but I don't see it.



It depends on what they were doing, which we don't know.  The rules on who has to carry legal malpractice insurance, for what and why are complicated, not to mention idiotic.  For example, I worked at a place that had a real estate practice area and all of the title searchers had to have a malpractice policy, whether or not they were licensed attorneys. 


Again, I am not saying any of these are what happened with the Obamas, we don't know what happened.  I'm simply pointing out that there are many many variations on what could have occurred. 

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 10, 2012 01:14 PM (yTtpr)

213 I see someone above mentioned being put on the inactive list, I forgot to mention that. That's usually what people do instead of a surrender which makes me a little more suspicious as to what happened. It is, however, possible for it to have been unrelated to some kind of ethics complaint.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 10, 2012 04:55 PM (yTtpr)

<p>

I have researched and argued this issue for the last four years, and I suspect I probably know more about it than do most. Barack was accused before the Illinois Bar, of lying on his bar application. Apparently his lies consisted of attesting that he did not do drugs, that he had no outstanding fines, and that he never went by another name during his life.

<p>

The evidence against him was the quotes from his own book where he admitted driving drunk and doing drugs.  It was also pointed out that he owed traffic fines in excess of the amount required to be reported on the bar application, which he did not do, and it was pointed out that he once went under the name "Barry Soetero" during the period of time he lived in Indonesia.

<p>

I have yet to discover why Michelle's license was suspended, but I did discover it WAS suspended for disciplinary cause. The rumors as to why it was suspended revolve around her work as a legal assistant for Chicago's mayor back in the 1990s.  Apparently she was involved in some sort of corrupt/unethical  land deal, but like I said, it's only rumors.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 01:15 PM (IEUSX)

214 Have you got a reputable source for all that?

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 01:17 PM (YdQQY)

215 MrCaniac writes: "Inactive" and "surrendered" are not interchangeable. You have to apply to have your license to go inactive. You must mail your license back in when you surrender it. I don't know what state MrCaniac is speaking of, perhaps it's the same one as that in which the Obama's have/had their law licenses, but that statement would not be true in my state. I've had a varied career, and those years when it was clear I wouldn't be actively practicing law I registered as "inactive" and paid half the usual bar dues. I most certainly did NOT have to "apply" to return to active status--the next time the dues were due I paid the full active dues and that was it. Just saying, there's a lot of variation state to state, and it's risky making generalizations based on any one state (unless, I suppose, it's the state where the Obama's are/were members of the bar, and therefore truly specific).

Posted by: Boston12GS at June 10, 2012 01:17 PM (rdSyJ)

216
They have not dropped their license and they were certainly NOT disbarred as some people have said.

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 04:57 PM (YdQQY)


Michelle relinquished it as the result of a disciplinary action. I've researched this and discussed this quite thoroughly on Free Republic and a website called "Talkpolywell.org". Barack gave up his law license rather than face a disbarment hearing. I found a copy of the original bar complaint against him. He was accused of lying on his bar application, and he did in fact do so.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 01:19 PM (IEUSX)

217 alexthechick writes: 209 Again, I am not saying any of these are what happened with the Obamas, we don't know what happened. I'm simply pointing out that there are many many variations on what could have occurred. Ah, got it, thanks.

Posted by: Boston12GS at June 10, 2012 01:19 PM (rdSyJ)

218 Hot young women are now replacing men with dogs/pets.  I accept this reality. .

Posted by: Happy at June 10, 2012 01:21 PM (lkdo/)

219 When someone surrenders their license, it is "voluntary". Sometimes people give up their licenses voluntarily, but most of the time when they "surrender" them, they do so to stop an investigation which will not be kind to them.

Posted by: MrCaniac at June 10, 2012 05:07 PM (1grxW)

That is what the evidence shows. Google "Obama bar complaint" and the first link will take you to the story.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 01:23 PM (IEUSX)

220 Michelle relinquished it as the result of a disciplinary action. I've researched this and discussed this quite thoroughly on Free Republic and a website called "Talkpolywell.org".



Legal sites with access to the IL bar records say they are both on inactive status and there is no record of "surrender" or disciplinary action. Snopes calls all that an urban legend.


Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 01:23 PM (YdQQY)

221 DiogenesLamp writes: 223 Michelle relinquished it as the result of a disciplinary action. I've researched this and discussed this quite thoroughly on Free Republic and a website called "Talkpolywell.org". Barack gave up his law license rather than face a disbarment hearing. I found a copy of the original bar complaint against him. He was accused of lying on his bar application, and he did in fact do so. I don't know if any of that is true, but I do know that it's pretty damned hard to permanently lose a law license, at least in my state. Mess with client money, you're done. Bang a client (meaning, really, a male lawyer banging a female client who complains to the BBA about it later), you're done. Lie on your bar application, yeah, you're probably done (otherwise why wouldn't everybody lie to them when they apply). Other than that, you can be a pretty serious screw up and you might--MIGHT--get a suspension, but you will almost certainly not permanently lose your license. Stay away from client money and v-jayjay, and don't make the bar people look like public fools, and you're pretty much good to go. Other states may vary, for sure.

Posted by: Boston12GS at June 10, 2012 01:24 PM (rdSyJ)

222 I always give Obama the benefit of the doubt and assume that he is a genius mastermind accomplishing exactly what he has set out to do,

Posted by: Woody at June 10, 2012 01:26 PM (07RHD)

223 "He was accused of lying on his bar application, and he did in fact do so. "
 Well...now he moved up to politics. So many lawyers move "up" to politics.  Politicians are generally the only ones who lie and cheat more than lawyers. I accept this is life and probably will never change. Acceptance makes me happy.

Posted by: Happy at June 10, 2012 01:26 PM (lkdo/)

224 I guess we can add to the truthers and the birthers, now the disbarrers.

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 01:26 PM (YdQQY)

225 But the big case that Jackson was involved in as President was the Cherokee. The court ruled against him and he ignored the court order. He made his infamous statement about them making their decision, let them enforce it.

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 05:08 PM (YdQQY)

That is all true of course, but many more tribes in the South were affected.  I would find it hard to believe that none of the seized lands got used for slave plantations. In any case, he also created the DNC that we know and love today. Yes friends, Andrew Jackson created THE Democratic National Committee.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 01:28 PM (IEUSX)

226 >>>Snopes calls all that an urban legend.

Snopes has taken to stretching the truth themselves to protect Obama. They are a useless arbiter of claims against him.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at June 10, 2012 01:29 PM (GE1+K)

227 I guess we can add to the truthers and the birthers, now the disbarrers.

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 05:26 PM (YdQQY)


I'm a dis-robe-er

Posted by: momma at June 10, 2012 01:29 PM (sYijI)

228
Nixon won it, and then the Democratic congress of 1974 abrogated our treaty obligations, creating the killing fields and the deaths of millions.

The Democrat Party has this blood, and the blood of many others, directly on its hands.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2012 05:11 PM (MCDCp)


Throughout it's entire history.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 01:30 PM (IEUSX)

229 NiceDeb tweet: Pic of the Day: For Sale at Nutroots Conference: Posters saying, “It’s My Body. It’s My P*ssy&#8230;.. http://moonbattracker.com/wordpress/?p=6373

Posted by: momma at June 10, 2012 01:31 PM (sYijI)

230 Have you got a reputable source for all that?

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 05:17 PM (YdQQY)


Just did a google search, apparently National Review shows up as a link. I would guess they are relatively reputable among conservatives.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 01:32 PM (IEUSX)

231 I'm a dis-robe-er

Posted by: momma at June 10, 2012 05:29 PM (sYijI)


Ms. Kagan can kindly stay enrobed.  Unrelated, I recognize your name from something last week, and you were right - Tee Jay's is the best drunk food at 0300.  Barnyard Buster FTW.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2012 01:34 PM (lJJMb)

232 >>>The Democrat Party has this blood, and the blood of many others, directly on its hands.

>>>Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2012 05:11 PM (MCDCp)

>>>Throughout it's entire history.

Nathaniel Grigsby Epitaph 1890

Through this inscription I wish to enter my dying protest against what is called the Democratic party. I have watched it closely since the days of Jackson and know that all the misfortunes of our nation have come to it through this so called party. Therefore, beware of this party of treason.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at June 10, 2012 01:34 PM (GE1+K)

233 I have no idea what the records in Illinois show in regards to their law licenses.  That said,  I have absolutely no confidence in antyhing that is written on any records regarding the Obamas that come out of the State of Illinois. Nothing unfavorable to the Obamas would ever see the light of day.  Illinois is a hotbed of corruption and cronyism.  This is why their former governors have an entire wing of the state pen.

Posted by: mama winger at June 10, 2012 01:34 PM (P6QsQ)

234 I have never seen anything in NRO and I look at them every morning.

As for Snopes, I have never found anything there glaringly wrong.

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 01:35 PM (YdQQY)

235 I would guess they are relatively reputable among conservatives.

Relatively reputable, but sadly not the gold standard they once were.

Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at June 10, 2012 01:35 PM (IlZPo)

236 NiceDeb tweet: Pic of the Day: For Sale at Nutroots Conference: Posters saying, “It’s My Body. It’s My P*ssy#8230;.. http://moonbattracker.com/wordpress/?p=6373

Posted by: momma at June 10, 2012 05:31 PM (sYijI)


-----


And as such, in no way should the contents of my bank account be used for any of its activities, before, during or after.

Posted by: mama winger at June 10, 2012 01:36 PM (P6QsQ)

237 Seriously what the hell happened here this weekend?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at June 10, 2012 01:39 PM (GE1+K)

238 Legal sites with access to the IL bar records say they are both on inactive status and there is no record of "surrender" or disciplinary action. Snopes calls all that an urban legend.


Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 05:23 PM (YdQQY)


I believe I can show you otherwise. I will have to look up all the pertinent information, but according to the statement of James Grogan, deputy administrator and chief counsel for the Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois, Michelles license was ordered inactive in accordance with Illinois Supreme court rule 770. If you look at rule 770 in existence in 1994, (since changed.) it dealt only with disciplinary actions. Nothing in there about "voluntary" relinquishment. 


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 01:40 PM (IEUSX)

239

test

Posted by: Ohio Dan at June 10, 2012 01:41 PM (JKNDp)

240 Acceptance makes me happy.

Posted by: Happy at June 10, 2012 05:26 PM (lkdo/)



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 01:41 PM (IEUSX)

241 After the Zeros leave the WH, I think they'll be looking to cash in as much as possible.  I think O will probably travel the world giving speeches (outside of US at first since he'll be unpopular here) and will happily trash the US.  Would not put it past him to give up US secrets if he can personally profit from it. 

I think both will also seek the limelight as long as it's within their control and among sychophants.  They will be lionized within the African American community and my fear is that they will become race baiters and worsen race relations for decades.  At first they'll probably be low key in this respect but over time it could worsen.

Posted by: Mayday at June 10, 2012 01:41 PM (orrLR)

242 So I can still post.  Obama's life after the presidency will depend on his ability to degrade the USA outweigh his embarrassing the Dems.  He has been their useful idiot and a miserable failure that may well break their party for a bit.  The citizen of the world may offer more options to him as he could declare himself openly a muslim or come out of the closet.  Our enimies abroad would love to expolit either of these.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at June 10, 2012 01:44 PM (JKNDp)

243 I guess we can add to the truthers and the birthers, now the disbarrers.

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 05:26 PM (YdQQY)


I'm assuming that's not a slap.  I make no bones about where I stand on all three issues. Truthers: Utter crap. "Birthers": There really is a there there. "Disbarrers": Just going where the available evidence has led. Like I said, National Review ought to be a rather credible source.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 01:44 PM (IEUSX)

244

Mayday, you and I are on the same page.

 

Posted by: Ohio Dan at June 10, 2012 01:45 PM (JKNDp)

245 I have never seen anything in NRO and I look at them every morning.

As for Snopes, I have never found anything there glaringly wrong.

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 05:35 PM (YdQQY)


I have the page up currently. It is National Review On line.  I'm not going to create a short url to post it. (Why does Ace make it so damned hard to post a link?) Just google "obama bar complaint" it will be the third link from the top.





Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 01:48 PM (IEUSX)

246 RE: the indians being relocated.  I read a good book a fews back on Jackson, and remember this...   the indians were aiding the British in skirmishes in the south and too in Florida with the Spanish.   I came away from the book seeing it as an unavoidable conflict between European settlers and indians being continuously pushed .  Yeah, there was out and out greed, but too, it was also a flat out inability to co-habitate without bloodshed.  I am willing to be told otherwise. 
The book made Jackson relocating the indians as his effort to save them from being wiped out like the indians of the NE and Ohio valley, etc.  Very hard to think how things would have worked if they'd not been moved.  Same goes for all the indian history in the plains.  I don' think there were any good options.

Posted by: Yip in Texas at June 10, 2012 01:49 PM (Mrdk1)

247 As for Snopes, I have never found anything there glaringly wrong.

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 05:35 PM (YdQQY)


You're kidding right? They claim those nude photos of Stanley Ann are actually Marcy Moore.  Look at a picture of Marcy Moore with those huge tits, and tell me those Stanley Ann photos look the same. Utter bullshit. I automatically disregard anything snopes says as biased and partisan.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 01:50 PM (IEUSX)

248 244 Seriously what the hell happened here this weekend?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at June 10, 2012 05:39 PM (GE1+K)

 

Ace has repeatedly said to quit doing X, Y, and Z.  Some jackoff proceeds to do X,  It gets pointed out that they need to quit doing it.  It gets scrubbed.  They do X again.  Ace sees it and says to stop it.  And they do X again.  Bye bye idiot.  Ace is commenting to cut it out, and so along comes someone that does YYYYYYY.  Bye bye to them.  Then later asshole come along and declares ace to be a pussy because they are actually big time internet hardass totally unafraid of anything like ace, so here's their real name.  Banned.  And then they come back because "haha you can't ban me because I have unlimited IPs"

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2012 01:52 PM (GULKT)

249 I  will  crawl   across  molten  glass  to  vote  against   the  SCoaMF.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at June 10, 2012 01:52 PM (RdYlc)

250 ... and I agree on Presidents.  I start with Wilson, and definitely include FDR and LBJ.  Remember though, the early 20th century, socialism/fascism was the rage and was spreading all through Europe.  The whole world was being prodded by progressive movements at the time.  ( ie, Prohibition! )

Posted by: Yip in Texas at June 10, 2012 01:53 PM (Mrdk1)

251 The book made Jackson relocating the indians as his effort to save them from being wiped out like the indians of the NE and Ohio valley, etc. Very hard to think how things would have worked if they'd not been moved. Same goes for all the indian history in the plains. I don' think there were any good options.

Posted by: Yip in Texas at June 10, 2012 05:49 PM (Mrdk1)


Interesting perspective. I'll keep it in mind in the future. If true, maybe he wasn't such an asshole. I and a friend have wondered for years how he could have so badly betrayed the Seminoles who had treated him as a friend.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 01:55 PM (IEUSX)

252 You may wish to read that NRO article.  They say yes a complaint was filed but it is not plausible.


IOW, they do not believe it.

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 01:57 PM (YdQQY)

253 .. and I agree on Presidents. I start with Wilson, and definitely include FDR and LBJ. Remember though, the early 20th century, socialism/fascism was the rage and was spreading all through Europe. The whole world was being prodded by progressive movements at the time. ( ie, Prohibition! )

Posted by: Yip in Texas at June 10, 2012 05:53 PM (Mrdk1)


Some of the progressive bullshit started with Teddy Roosevelt. On the other hand, Silent Cal was actually a good conservative style President. He put the government on a sound financial footing while he served.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 01:58 PM (IEUSX)

254 Ohio Dan, I hope I (or we) are wrong.  The only sliver of hope I can think of is if O sees himself as having the opportunity to leave a legacy as a serious and well respected statesman, and bad behavior would tarnish it.  But I think he's delusional enough to think he will have an awesome legacy and can do whatever benefits him. 

He seems to have been focusing on his legacy since before inauguration.  I'd rather put up with him being simply pompous and arrogant than destructive (and pompous and arrogant).

Posted by: Mayday at June 10, 2012 01:58 PM (orrLR)

255 I sure miss Barky's special place.  By "special place" I mean Barky's colon.

Posted by: Reggie "Bodyman" Luv at June 10, 2012 02:00 PM (YYyqq)

256 The book made Jackson relocating the indians as his
effort to save them from being wiped out like the indians of the NE and
Ohio valley, etc. Very hard to think how things would have worked if
they'd not been moved. Same goes for all the indian history in the
plains. I don' think there were any good options.


Posted by: Yip in Texas at June 10, 2012 05:49 PM (Mrdk1)

None of that was involved with relocating the Cherokees from GA. 

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 02:02 PM (YdQQY)

257 You may wish to read that NRO article. They say yes a complaint was filed but it is not plausible.


IOW, they do not believe it.

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 05:57 PM (YdQQY)


They do not believe it was filed? According to the article, they say it WAS FILED.

That is the one salient fact, not whether the anonymous filer was making a joke at the end. (Or dodging retaliation.)

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 02:02 PM (IEUSX)

258 Oops left out the link to the NRO article

http://is.gd/n2Iw8w

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 02:03 PM (YdQQY)

259 Question for you. If an actual complaint was filed, does the Illinois bar association have to look at it and take action?

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 02:06 PM (IEUSX)

260 They do not believe it was filed? According to the article, they say it WAS FILED.
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No, they don't believe the allegation.

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 02:07 PM (YdQQY)

261 >>>I never said you said that. Some have said it. There was a lot of people in the blog world who were saying they were disbarred.

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 05:10 PM (YdQQY) <<<


I know, and I apologize for that.



>>>It depends on what they were doing, which we don't know. The rules on who has to carry legal malpractice insurance, for what and why are complicated, not to mention idiotic. For example, I worked at a place that had a real estate practice area and all of the title searchers had to have a malpractice policy, whether or not they were licensed attorneys.


Again, I am not saying any of these are what happened with the Obamas, we don't know what happened. I'm simply pointing out that there are many many variations on what could have occurred.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 10, 2012 05:14 PM (yTtpr) <<<


The key is that they are performing the duties by doing title searches. Once they no longer do the title searches, they no longer need the insurance.



>>>I don't know what state MrCaniac is speaking of, perhaps it's the same one as that in which the Obama's have/had their law licenses, but that statement would not be true in my state. I've had a varied career, and those years when it was clear I wouldn't be actively practicing law I registered as "inactive" and paid half the usual bar dues. I most certainly did NOT have to "apply" to return to active status--the next time the dues were due I paid the full active dues and that was it.

Just saying, there's a lot of variation state to state, and it's risky making generalizations based on any one state (unless, I suppose, it's the state where the Obama's are/were members of the bar, and therefore truly specific).

Posted by: Boston12GS at June 10, 2012 05:17 PM (rdSyJ)<<<


The Commonwealth of Virginia. I am not 100% sure how one goes about getting your license placed as inactive, but I have sure seen how people have had their licenses "surrendered". Hint, 99% of the time it has to do with monkeying with escrow accounts, i.e., other peoples' money.

Posted by: MrCaniac at June 10, 2012 02:07 PM (1grxW)

262 No not the Cherokee Vic, but once the "move the damn indians" idea made it's way through the government, no tribe could rightly be said, ok, leave the Cherokee, but march the rest outta here.  Obviously there were mixed movtives, but my main point is/was, THERE were NO good options.  There really wasn't a way to live side by side...  and if it wasn't the Cherokee gold, it would have been something else or someone else to take advantage of.  The Cherokee weren't the only aggrieved parites in that time period.

Posted by: Yip in Texas at June 10, 2012 02:08 PM (Mrdk1)

263 Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at June 10, 2012 05:49 PM (phlKA)
Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2012 05:52 PM (GULKT)

Thanks

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at June 10, 2012 02:09 PM (GE1+K)

264 RE: TR... yeah... I was a big fan of his until I read more.  His progressiveness lead the way for a lot of the thinking the continued in the government under Taft and Wilson and through to FDR.  It was really a progressive time and those that felt the Federal Government could be bigger and could do more things just kept getting stuff done... and the government grew and the progressives and democrats engorged themselves on the power to point the populace in the correct direction.   Coolige wasn't a big-government guy as far as I've read and was out-of-fashion with the progressive winds of change.. so once he was booted and FDR got in, ... the agenda not only continued, but made up for lost time under Coolige, doubling down at every opportunity ( obviously to buttress any GOP winner like Coolige from getting elected and undoing their initiatives)

Posted by: Yip in Texas at June 10, 2012 02:14 PM (Mrdk1)

265 The Cherokee weren't the only aggrieved parites in that time period.

Posted by: Yip in Texas at June 10, 2012 06:08 PM (Mrdk1)


No, I agree, but this whole thing started with Andrew Jackson and Cherokee relocation.  And I think the Cherokee could have lived side by side.  Remember, they were the "civilized tribe".


But I must admit some bias since I am part Cherokee, but not related to E. Warren.

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 02:14 PM (YdQQY)

266 No, they don't believe the allegation.

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 06:07 PM (YdQQY)

What's not to believe?  The allegations look pretty well proven based on what is purported to be in his book. The man actually has a so-called autobiography in which he ADMITS doing drugs and driving drunk. 

<p>

Apart from that, the complaint has a lot more accusations than just that. You can see the rest of it with a google search. I've read the whole thing back in 2008, and the charges look provable to me.  It wasn't long after these charges were filed that Barack voluntarily surrendered his license. I was actually looking forward to seeing him attend a disbarment hearing.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 02:14 PM (IEUSX)

267 RE: TR... yeah... I was a big fan of his until I read more. His progressiveness lead the way for a lot of the thinking the continued in the government under Taft and Wilson and through to FDR. It was really a progressive time and those that felt the Federal Government could be bigger and could do more things just kept getting stuff done... and the government grew and the progressives and democrats engorged themselves on the power to point the populace in the correct direction. Coolige wasn't a big-government guy as far as I've read and was out-of-fashion with the progressive winds of change.. so once he was booted and FDR got in, ... the agenda not only continued, but made up for lost time under Coolige, doubling down at every opportunity ( obviously to buttress any GOP winner like Coolige from getting elected and undoing their initiatives)

Posted by: Yip in Texas at June 10, 2012 06:14 PM (Mrdk1)

<p>

Yup. That's pretty much my understanding.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 02:17 PM (IEUSX)

268 Not worth wasting time arguing with a true believer Vic.

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2012 02:18 PM (GULKT)

269 No, I agree, but this whole thing started with Andrew Jackson and Cherokee relocation. And I think the Cherokee could have lived side by side. Remember, they were the "civilized tribe".

But I must admit some bias since I am part Cherokee, but not related to E. Warren.

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 06:14 PM (YdQQY)


I'm supposed to be part Cherokee as well. My Grandfather was Half Cherokee. He and his mother are actually on the Dawes Indian rolls. Our difficulty is proving those two on the roles are OUR Great-Grandmother and Great-Grandfather because we know of no marriage certificate to our Great-Grandfather.

We can prove who our grandfather is relating to us, but we can't prove that he is the same person as is on the Dawes roll. Of course, we haven't really tried either.




Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 02:22 PM (IEUSX)

270 That's fair Vic and I can't defend what was done.  I just try to see it in the context of the day and there was so much destabilizing stuff going on in the south at the time that I think, once the decision to move them was arrived upon, then no tribe was excluded, regardless.   ... and yeah, I know about the Cherokee.  They got screwed, there is no two bones about it.  All of them got screwed over.  It really is a sad chapter in our history, but there were internationals that were using the indians against us within the country and to the extent the indians were seen as a threat to order and our young country and something to be gained by moving them all out... obviously it was rationalized as the thing to do.

Posted by: Yip in Texas at June 10, 2012 02:23 PM (Mrdk1)

271 Not worth wasting time arguing with a true believer Vic.

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2012 06:18 PM (GULKT)


You have it backwards.  I am the true DISbeliever and so is Snopes, so is NRO, so are the legal blogs and everyone else halfway reliable.


But you are right, no point in arguing with "true believers".

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 02:23 PM (YdQQY)

272 Not worth wasting time arguing with a true believer Vic.

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2012 06:18 PM (GULKT)


Or someone who will deny the evidence placed right in front of them where they can read it for themselves.

It is not going to bother me whatever you chose to believe. I just thought I was doing you the service of informing you, and for that I am now sorry.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 02:24 PM (IEUSX)

273 I think all the internationals agitating with the tribes pretty much disappeared after the Louisiana Purchase.


I think the last case of that was the Spanish agitating the Seminoles and that happened while Jackson was still a General.

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 02:26 PM (YdQQY)

274 You have it backwards. I am the true DISbeliever and so is Snopes, so is NRO, so are the legal blogs and everyone else halfway reliable.
But you are right, no point in arguing with "true believers".

<p>

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 06:23 PM (YdQQY)

<p>

Vic, I like you and I respect your opinion. Always have. As far as i'm concerned, It doesn't really matter anyway. It doesn't hurt my feelings if you want to believe that Obama simply gave it up. It ultimately provides no advancement for Conservatism one way or the other.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 02:27 PM (IEUSX)

275 It doesn't hurt my feelings if you want to believe that Obama simply gave it up.


But that is the point everyone has made. He has NOT given it up.  It is inactive and can be reactivated at any time.

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 02:32 PM (YdQQY)

276 Or someone who will deny the evidence placed right in front of them where they can read it for themselves.
It is not going to bother me whatever you chose to believe. I just thought I was doing you the service of informing you, and for that I am now sorry.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 06:24 PM (IEUSX)

 

Your "evidence" apparently says that you are wrong.

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2012 02:32 PM (GULKT)

277 Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2012 06:32 PM (GULKT)


I had to go back and re-read your post. I misinterpreted it, sorry.

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 02:35 PM (YdQQY)

278 You're right Vic on the Seminoles.  I think I have the time compressed in my thinking.  I just read a quick article on the Cherokee vs Georgia and the push to get take the Cherokee land in Georgia ( Gold ).  What a sad period.  No matter what the indians did, at the end of the day, their rights were ignored. 

Posted by: Yip in Texas at June 10, 2012 02:37 PM (Mrdk1)

279 But that is the point everyone has made. He has NOT given it up. It is inactive and can be reactivated at any time.

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 06:32 PM (YdQQY)

<p>

And so can the complaint.  I honestly don't understand why you are so resistant to the notion that he possibly gave up his license as a result of the complaint being filed. It seems pretty unremarkable to me.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 02:48 PM (IEUSX)

280 Your "evidence" apparently says that you are wrong.

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2012 06:32 PM (GULKT) 

<p>


If you say so. I must not have read that part.





Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 02:49 PM (IEUSX)

281 Ace on the next thread talking about some kind of a war with Charles Johnson.

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 02:57 PM (YdQQY)

282 Ace on the next thread talking about some kind of a war with Charles Johnson.

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 06:57 PM (YdQQY)



Thanks. I can't stand that prick Charles Johnson.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 03:01 PM (IEUSX)

283 Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at June 10, 2012 05:34 PM (GE1+K) Wow! I never heard that! And in the words for Fred Ward as Gus Grissom, "fuckin' A, bubba." Will have to bookmark that quote.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2012 03:06 PM (MCDCp)

284 Obama makes Carter look like George freaking Washington by comparison.  The nation has a new benchmark for worst president, and its gonna be a hard one to beat...very hard.

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at June 10, 2012 03:35 PM (9yE9L)

285 Delurk

*comment redacted*

Relurk

Posted by: sandman says mumble, mumblle, mumble at June 10, 2012 03:45 PM (zxaA2)

286 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at June 10, 2012 03:48 PM (Xb3hu)

287 http://preview.tinyurl.com/cb9zce2

Posted by: sandman says ...comment redacted at June 10, 2012 03:57 PM (zxaA2)

288 Don't forget how Jimmy spilled the beens on the stealth bomber (YF-117) in order to prop up his campaign.  He wanted to dismiss the well earned reputation that he was ruining our nations defense.

Barry Obama is just following in the footsteps of this giant of a president.

Posted by: Evan at June 10, 2012 04:56 PM (DSW5f)

289 The only right thing I need Jindal to say is:

"I am a candidate for president."

I will accept:

"I accept Mr. Romney's offer to be his running mate!"

Posted by: Sgt. York at June 10, 2012 06:09 PM (pqW4Y)

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