June 10, 2012
— Dave in Texas This.
Jindal concluded that Obama is “the most liberal, most incompetent president in the White House since Jimmy Carter.”
Jindal is saying the right things, but leaving out the other important fact. It's true Obama is incompetent. It's also true that he's purposeful, that while his execution is clumsy because he's a fool, his results are a clear indication of his intentions. He made the mistake (as has been noted often of liberals) of saying exactly what he believes (the private sector is doing just fine) instead of buttering it up with pretty words.
Good stuff. I can't wait for November.
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Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 10, 2012 11:08 AM (kqGWM)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 11:13 AM (IEUSX)
FIFY
Posted by: sTevo at June 10, 2012 11:15 AM (VMcEw)
Posted by: Mac Gootbone at June 10, 2012 11:17 AM (XCSw/)
Posted by: 13times at June 10, 2012 11:17 AM (h6XiD)
Posted by: thunderb at June 10, 2012 11:22 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: LIGuy at June 10, 2012 11:30 AM (+usC4)
Posted by: Nutmeg Moron at June 10, 2012 11:34 AM (Vg4Vv)
I think he will seek positions within the UN and or World Bank. The US was always too small and parochial for him in his mind. I am sure he would happily undermine the US in favor of world governance.
My current predication is that Obama and Michelle will move to NYC. Obama will work for the UN in some capacity, where he'll hobnob with third world dictators and badmouth the Romney Administration. Michelle will get a no show job that gives some multinational firm that wants influence that they can call upon. The daughters will dumped with a nanny every day.
Posted by: Alex at June 10, 2012 11:36 AM (aNu4E)
And, yes, he's the nation's first Marxist President. On that he's blazing new territory. That he's the nation's most economically disastrous President kinda goes with that territory.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at June 10, 2012 11:37 AM (QTHTd)
But the overall most damaging President in history was FDR followed closely by LBJ.
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 11:38 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: mama winger at June 10, 2012 11:38 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: mama winger at June 10, 2012 11:40 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Scobface at June 10, 2012 11:41 AM (IoNBC)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at June 10, 2012 11:43 AM (QTHTd)
I agree with Alex, I think they will move to NYC where he will felate the UN, undermine Romney, and interfere in the middle east in favor of Islamic dictators since he will be "unfettered" by electoral politics.
Posted by: thunderb at June 10, 2012 11:44 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 10, 2012 11:45 AM (c2oll)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 10, 2012 11:46 AM (yTtpr)
Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2012 11:46 AM (4R02F)
Posted by: Ban Ki Moon at June 10, 2012 11:47 AM (IoNBC)
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Obama being named will be UNPRECEDENTED!
Posted by: mama winger at June 10, 2012 11:48 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: jonsten at June 10, 2012 11:48 AM (fVgpT)
We gotta do everything possible to keep Hope and Change from becoming "the Dope Remains". Go Mitt.
But I don't think it's mostly incompetence, I think it's ignorance. Not the same thing. Obama is ignorant. Carter was just incompetent.
Posted by: Fussy at June 10, 2012 11:49 AM (Y/2U4)
I have no doubt he will argue that the US shouldn't be a permanent member of the security council, being all unfair and unjust to the third world and such. Whatevs. Maybe the rest of the world will cease to care about him when he is no longer President. Then he will lack a platform. And President
Participation Medal won't have anything to do. Sads.
On the otherhand I am sure the dictators of those post colonial countries he has such an affection for would be happy to recruit him as their useful idiot to bludgeon us with. I just wish he would keep golfing, and nothing else.
Meanwhile anyone willing to take on the NEA mafia is alright with me. Go Jindal!
Posted by: thunderb at June 10, 2012 11:50 AM (Dnbau)
"Michelle will get a no show job that gives some multinational firm that wants influence that they can call upon."
No, I disagree. After the Democrats are crushed in November (well, a guy can hope), the Obamas will be radioactive in professional political circles. I mean, who in his right mind would have hired Rosalyn Carter after 1980? No, Michelle gets a TV chat show, where she can nag us over the airwaves, just like Oprah. And after that bombs - and it will, since she doesn't perform for the camera particularly well - she'll spend her time at her "job" at the Obama Foundation (and yes, there will be one). Both she and hubby will end up with the U.N. as official finger-waggers at America.
Posted by: Brown Line at June 10, 2012 11:51 AM (Gmry/)
Posted by: Tightie Rightie at June 10, 2012 11:52 AM (OfDMM)
Posted by: Kim Jong Un at June 10, 2012 11:52 AM (IoNBC)
Posted by: Floyd at June 10, 2012 11:52 AM (z6pg+)
Posted by: thunderb at June 10, 2012 11:53 AM (Dnbau)
re: Obama -
every day I expect to see him on my tv announcing that he's unifying the deities and moving the capitol to Amarna.
Posted by: garrett at June 10, 2012 11:53 AM (IJVIZ)
He's always had some weird fetish for nuclear disarmament.
It allows him to suck up to third world dictators while castigating the US for not dismantling our nuclear stockpile.
He can attack nuclear power as a problem and push the green jobs scam, which also gives him a revenue stream thanks to bribes... ahem "consulting fees".
It's a cause that is popular on college campuses, where his biggest supporters are, which means that he'll have an excuse to stay close to academia.
Posted by: Alex at June 10, 2012 11:54 AM (aNu4E)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at June 10, 2012 11:54 AM (iXnER)
What the hell happened over the past few days? I have been traveling.
Posted by: jewells45 at June 10, 2012 11:55 AM (QaXKc)
Mr. 57 States is Ignorant.
Posted by: Fussy at June 10, 2012 11:56 AM (Y/2U4)
Although I do like allowing him to insert himself into the UN in a position of authority. He will over reach badly, and the UN could collapse! Win-win!
Posted by: thunderb at June 10, 2012 11:56 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Scobface at June 10, 2012 11:56 AM (IoNBC)
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at June 10, 2012 11:56 AM (bMLFV)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 10, 2012 03:45 PM (c2oll)
She can represent Kenyan as Inspektor General, can't she
Posted by: Bill from Chappaqua at June 10, 2012 11:57 AM (Bxm/r)
Ace posted a long rant regarding the BK situation. Several commentators decided to post internet tough guy rants, as well as attack Ace for some of the decisions that he's made. Ace asked them to stop because he didn't want to give BK and his associates any more ammunition for attacks or lawsuits. Said commentators did not stop, and in fact doubled down on stupid. Ace closed off comments and announced that he was going to a registration system.
Posted by: Alex at June 10, 2012 11:57 AM (aNu4E)
Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2012 11:57 AM (kpCLl)
Posted by: thunderb at June 10, 2012 11:58 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: jewells45 at June 10, 2012 11:59 AM (QaXKc)
He didn't want to break his anonymity to accept it, and felt that this was not in the spirit with which AB lived, so he withdrew himself from consideration.
Posted by: Alex at June 10, 2012 11:59 AM (aNu4E)
How's your knee doing today?
Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2012 12:00 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2012 03:57 PM (kpCLl)
Peaches it was given out on Friday. He explained why in the comments of the post on Friday.
105 I am not receiving the Breitbart Award.
Because of concerns about my physical safety, I decided I could not attend. As I could not attend, I decided I was not worthy of the award -- Andrew Breitbart would not be afraid.
The Andrew Breitbart award will go to someone more deserving.
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 05:45 PM (aw5Tx)
Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2012 12:01 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: thunderb at June 10, 2012 12:02 PM (Dnbau)
How's your knee doing today?
Good, but I've not really gotten out of bed yet. I'm going to try running a mile tomorrow and see how it feels.
How are you doing? Are you still working the job from hell, or did you already start another one?
Posted by: Alex at June 10, 2012 12:02 PM (aNu4E)
Posted by: jewells45 at June 10, 2012 12:03 PM (QaXKc)
They were raised by the stupid wolves.
Since we (understandably) have to go to a registration system, I would like to be able to use an avatar. Mainly because I have a "you were raised by the stupid wolves weren't you" icon.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 10, 2012 12:04 PM (yTtpr)
Posted by: MiloX at June 10, 2012 12:04 PM (gtraj)
Posted by: Chilling the most at June 10, 2012 12:04 PM (6IV8T)
Posted by: thunderb at June 10, 2012 12:05 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Kin Jong Un at June 10, 2012 12:05 PM (IoNBC)
We're in the final weeks of "old" firm and the new one(s) will start up 7/1. Been super busy trying to dial all that in, but making progress. The hard part is that feeling of, well, it's over and I'm so over it and GACK why do I have to keep going back there? Nothing to do but suck it up, better days are in sight.
Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2012 12:06 PM (kpCLl)
I don't think Barack will live in the US. I think Michelle will divorce him after the Democrat minions scatter. She and the girls will probably settle down and, surprisingly, stay out of the limelight. She'll have some no-show corporate board and law firm partner jobs. They might spend a lot of their time in the south of France or Switzerland.
Michelle won't pull a Hillary. She thinks she has value unchained to Barack and is not nearly as Machiavellian as Hillary.
Barack will be a world traveler. About twice a year, if you pay attention, there'll be a big story about him spending time with his kids. Otherwise, he'll go between penthouse suites in Europe, the US and the Middle East.
I predict he'll have a huge office complex in Dubai.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 10, 2012 12:08 PM (J5tI6)
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But the overall most damaging President in history was FDR followed closely by LBJ.
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 03:38 PM (YdQQY)
I kinda disagree on this one because FDR built upon the work of Woodrow Wilson, the asshole that ensured WW II. LBJ, in turn, built upon the damages wrought by FDR. Although FDR's first 100 days were unarguably the worst in American history he was only standing atop the shoulders of the asshole who got the ball rolling. LBJ,in turn, stood atop the shoulders of FDR.
To me all three share the title of the most damaging President in history.
Posted by: Ed Anger Issues at June 10, 2012 12:08 PM (7+pP9)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 10, 2012 03:46 PM (yTtpr)
Conservatives, by and large, don't do bumper stickers, unlike the Libs. If you see a bumper sticker on a Subaru or Volvo, you know it's going to be an Obama sticker. (Why do the libs like Subarus and Volvos anyway?)
I live in Suburban Philadelphia. I wouldn't dare but a Romney sticker on my car. It'd be keyed, broken windows, etc. within a week.
Posted by: Ombudsman at June 10, 2012 12:08 PM (AxHOT)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at June 10, 2012 12:09 PM (I2LwF)
We're in the final weeks of "old" firm and the new one(s) will start up 7/1. Been super busy trying to dial all that in, but making progress. The hard part is that feeling of, well, it's over and I'm so over it and GACK why do I have to keep going back there? Nothing to do but suck it up, better days are in sight.
Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2012 04:06 PM (kpCLl)
I said in that thread that ace is the rock star that thinks his last album sucked to reference his post from the previous day.
And Peaches you really must get this and have it express delivered for you so you can use it before you leave your old firm. http://tinyurl.com/yask2r
Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2012 12:10 PM (GULKT)
>Joffen got a promotion!
Yeh, something about Ace, blah blah, anger, but the big news is Joffen's promotion and my new hash.
Posted by: Mama AJ at June 10, 2012 12:10 PM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Ed Anger Issues at June 10, 2012 04:08 PM (7+pP9)
Agreed, but with special mention to Our First Gay President, Buchanan.
Posted by: Ombudsman at June 10, 2012 12:11 PM (AxHOT)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at June 10, 2012 12:11 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Mister Christopher at June 10, 2012 12:11 PM (DQhAB)
Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2012 12:12 PM (kpCLl)
JEFOTUS in doing it by design.
Posted by: Nutmeg Moron at June 10, 2012 03:34 PM (Vg4Vv)
This implies that any of his plans work. I don't think the man is capable of successfully opening a jar of peanut butter.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 12:13 PM (IEUSX)
Posted by: Mister Christopher at June 10, 2012 04:11 PM (DQhAB)
Reviews from the morons seem mixed. So I guess, its a watch it if you want, but don't go in expecting too much.
Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2012 12:13 PM (GULKT)
Yeh, something about Ace, blah blah, anger, but the big news is Joffen's promotion and my new hash.
Posted by: Mama AJ at June 10, 2012 04:10 PM (SUKHu)
Yeah, the Chinese president was most excited, if I recall.
Posted by: ErikW at June 10, 2012 12:13 PM (pzKHN)
@20 Vic LBJ, FDR
If Obamacare not overturned, Barry could be your new leader in total destruction.
Posted by: old glazier at June 10, 2012 12:13 PM (KcINh)
I don't think Barack will live in the US. I think Michelle will divorce him after the Democrat minions scatter. She and the girls will probably settle down and, surprisingly, stay out of the limelight. She'll have some no-show corporate board and law firm partner jobs. They might spend a lot of their time in the south of France or Switzerland.
Michelle won't pull a Hillary. She thinks she has value unchained to Barack and is not nearly as Machiavellian as Hillary.
Barack will be a world traveler. About twice a year, if you pay attention, there'll be a big story about him spending time with his kids. Otherwise, he'll go between penthouse suites in Europe, the US and the Middle East.
I predict he'll have a huge office complex in Dubai.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 10, 2012 04:08 PM (J5tI6)
She won't leave him, and he will continue his other life on the down low. She can't get a job at a law firm because she "surrendered" her law license. If she reapplies for it, the reasons for the surrender will become public knowledge. Same thing for him. They will write books, make speeches, and sponge off of anyone who will let them.
Posted by: MrCaniac at June 10, 2012 12:15 PM (1grxW)
But the overall most damaging President in history was FDR followed closely by LBJ.
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 03:38 PM (YdQQY)
Not sure if Abraham Lincoln ought not to be in that mix somewhere. Sure, he did one good thing after the fact, but look at how he set the precedent for dictatorial Federal powers.
Woodrow Wilson also was pretty bad.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 12:15 PM (IEUSX)
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 10, 2012 12:16 PM (8MasJ)
But the overall most damaging President in history was FDR followed closely by LBJ.
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 03:38 PM (YdQQY)
But those are good choices too. Of course Carter is responsible for the occurrence of the Iran/Iraq war, and I believe the casualties were well over a million people.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 12:16 PM (IEUSX)
Posted by: MrCaniac at June 10, 2012 04:15 PM (1grxW)
I agree, with one extra prediction. They will continue to whore themselves out to any teevee show that will have them, all the while maneuvering behind the scenes to try and get their own shows (particularly sasquatch).
Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2012 12:16 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: Lave Sus Manos at June 10, 2012 12:18 PM (Bm8H4)
Posted by: Ellen Degeneres at June 10, 2012 12:18 PM (IoNBC)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at June 10, 2012 12:18 PM (I2LwF)
Yeah,Peaches, no kidding. I send Sarah Palin $50, first time in my life I have ever donated to a campaign, and now I'm positively slammed with gop shit from every gov/sen/rep/pac in the US of A. Just beyond annoying.
Posted by: Derak at June 10, 2012 12:18 PM (bM0qI)
Well, there are worse presidents.
OH NO! I accidentally got back on topic.
<faints>
Posted by: Mama AJ at June 10, 2012 12:18 PM (SUKHu)
Posted by: jonsten at June 10, 2012 12:19 PM (fVgpT)
Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2012 04:12 PM (kpCLl)
Crosses my mind, too. Between subscriptions to National Review, Weekly Standard, etc. junk mail from every Conservative group possible..... I somehow got on serveral kook birther mailing lists, which I assume drives my black mail man crazy. I also worry about my American Rifleman subscription.
Good thing the mail carriers know it's a Federal crime
Posted by: Ombudsman at June 10, 2012 12:19 PM (AxHOT)
Posted by: macintx at June 10, 2012 12:20 PM (ucs8Y)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at June 10, 2012 12:20 PM (mFxQX)
They'll try, but be very very disappointed and confused that nobody wants them around.
"What stench of failure? I don't smell anything!"
Posted by: Mama AJ at June 10, 2012 12:21 PM (SUKHu)
I hope that he is making enough enemies in his own party that once he leaves office the flood gates will open and we will hear all the crap he's done.
More likely they can't afford to insult an important part of their base and the lionization of Barack the Light Worker will continue. Schools and streets named after him. Scholarships in his name. At awards shows. He will just never go away like a bad ex.
Posted by: thunderb at June 10, 2012 12:22 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at June 10, 2012 12:22 PM (I2LwF)
She won't leave him, and he will continue his other life on the down low. She can't get a job at a law firm because she "surrendered" her law license. If she reapplies for it, the reasons for the surrender will become public knowledge
Maybe. It still wouldn't preclude her being on corporate boards. I'm not sure that her surrendering her law license was all that sinister (what could she have done? she didn't actually do anything of consequence), it could just be that she didn't want to pay bar dues or something.
See, I think Michelle has utter contempt for Hillary and what she's done vis-a-vis staying with Bill. I also don't think she has her own national political ambitions. I think she sees a future of more magazine covers.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 10, 2012 12:23 PM (J5tI6)
Posted by: Vince McMahon at June 10, 2012 12:24 PM (IoNBC)
Posted by: macintx at June 10, 2012 12:24 PM (ucs8Y)
To me all three share the title of the most damaging President in history.
Posted by: Ed Anger Issues at June 10, 2012 04:08 PM (7+pP9)
A topic I post on occasionally is the notion that pretty much all the absolute worst and most horrible Presidents were Democrats. Andrew Jackson was the first Democrat President, and what he did that was really terrible was to push the Indian Relocation Act. Basically he stole all the land from the Indians in the South, and gave them to white settlers. Whether they used the land for slave plantations, I do not know for certain, but It can be surmised that they did.
Woodrow Wilson was horrible, FDR was HORRIBLE, Truman was bad, Kennedy was bad, Johnson was horrible, Carter was Horrible, Clinton was utter garbage, and this current nitwit has been continuously restrained from beating FDR's record for horrible, but not for lack of trying.
Basically, the world would be a better place if there never were any Democrat Presidents.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 12:24 PM (IEUSX)
OH NO! I accidentally got back on topic.
<faints>
Posted by: Mama AJ at June 10, 2012 04:18 PM (SUKHu)
JEEVES! Fetch the swooning couch, post hate!
Posted by: ErikW at June 10, 2012 12:25 PM (pzKHN)
Posted by: lizabth at June 10, 2012 12:26 PM (JZBti)
Posted by: Derak at June 10, 2012 12:26 PM (bM0qI)
Posted by:Truman North at June 10, 2012 04:18 PM (I2LwF)
And Zombies too. I just saw it a couple of days ago.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 12:27 PM (IEUSX)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at June 10, 2012 12:27 PM (mFxQX)
Posted by: macintx at June 10, 2012 12:27 PM (ucs8Y)
Posted by: Lave Sus Manos at June 10, 2012 12:27 PM (Bm8H4)
Michelle will likely continue her "get everyone moving" and healthy eating campaigns, only as a consultant to organizations about how they can reform their policies and products. It will be a kind of payoff. They hire her, she (or more likely her lackys) recommend some changes or a new donation fund or something, the companies pay her off and get a stamp of approval.
Posted by: Alex at June 10, 2012 12:28 PM (aNu4E)
Posted by: macintx at June 10, 2012 04:24 PM (ucs8Y)
Probably to save time once the felony indictments come for being judge, jury, and executioner by proxy via Predators.
Imagine if Bush had done that? The articles of impeachment would have been written posthaste.
Posted by: Ombudsman at June 10, 2012 12:28 PM (AxHOT)
Posted by: lizabth at June 10, 2012 04:26 PM (JZBti)
We have a drone following them, now.
Just waiting to confirm they are on the 'kill list'.
Posted by: Janet Napolitano at June 10, 2012 12:28 PM (b23ex)
Posted by: Derak at June 10, 2012 04:18 PM (bM0qI)
Yup, i'm getting bombarded by GOP candidate spam too.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 12:29 PM (IEUSX)
Posted by: thunderb at June 10, 2012 12:29 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: soothsayer, for your own good at June 10, 2012 12:29 PM (vzLhi)
>>er, post haste
And here I was, thinking it was a subtle reference to the New Blog Tone.
Posted by: Mama AJ at June 10, 2012 12:31 PM (SUKHu)
Posted by: soothsayer, for your own good at June 10, 2012 12:31 PM (KwX0v)
It's only 1:30 here, and I was up earlier to eat breakfast and shoot some pool. I'm just back to lounging on the bed because it's Sunday and I'm lazy.
I fell off a dirtbike last Sunday and scraped up my arm pretty well. I also landed on my knee. It's fine, it just hurt after walking around downtown Portland for an hours or so on Friday, so I figure that I needed to give it a couple more days of rest. I figure a slow jog on Monday to see how it feels.
Posted by: Alex at June 10, 2012 12:32 PM (aNu4E)
Any AZ residents around?
Trying to figure out why AZ-8 is getting zero coverage in the news.
Posted by: soothsayer, for your own good at June 10, 2012 04:29 PM (vzLhi)
What is AZ-8? Since there's been zero news coverage, I sure don't know but would like to.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2012 12:33 PM (lJJMb)
And here I was, thinking it was a subtle reference to the New Blog Tone.
Posted by: Mama AJ at June 10, 2012 04:31 PM (SUKHu)
If I were paranoid, I'd say that I'm a sooper sekrit double-triple agent sent to by the Bilderbergs to undermine this blog but I'm not.
Or am I?
Posted by: ErikW at June 10, 2012 12:34 PM (pzKHN)
Also, Cubs fans: Are you ready to run Theo Epstein out of town?
Posted by: soothsayer, for your own good at June 10, 2012 04:31 PM (KwX0v)
Hell no - Rome wasn't built in a day, and the empty land that was the foundation didn't have a century-long track record of failure, incompetence, and misery. On the plus side, they're up 6-0 over the Twinkies right now.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2012 12:35 PM (lJJMb)
Posted by: Don't hate the player at June 10, 2012 12:36 PM (cBYCG)
Posted by: soothsayer, for your own good at June 10, 2012 12:36 PM (BUcLz)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 10, 2012 12:37 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Ombudsman at June 10, 2012 12:37 PM (AxHOT)
They didn't go to trial or counsel clients.
We don't have any of their client lists (of course) but IIRC, the only real law work Barack did was to berate Citibank into making subprime loans.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 10, 2012 12:38 PM (J5tI6)
Posted by: Deli LLama at June 10, 2012 12:39 PM (uv9eO)
Her aide is running for the seat and thd R is Jesse Kelly who lost in 2010 by only 4K votes.
Posted by: soothsayer, for your own good at June 10, 2012 04:36 PM (BUcLz)
Her aide will win by landslide. Sympathy vote.
Posted by: Ombudsman at June 10, 2012 12:39 PM (AxHOT)
Posted by: soothsayer, for your own good at June 10, 2012 12:39 PM (KreG+)
Posted by: Thomas Friedman at June 10, 2012 12:39 PM (IoNBC)
Posted by: Ombudsman at June 10, 2012 04:37 PM (AxHOT)
She already did that stupid Grease song. And she didn't even vote the last time around. I bet there's an article around September of her wanting Obama to have a second term.
Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2012 12:40 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: macintx at June 10, 2012 12:41 PM (ucs8Y)
Posted by: Tightie Rightie at June 10, 2012 12:41 PM (OfDMM)
Posted by: Ms Flame at June 10, 2012 12:41 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: soothsayer, for your own good at June 10, 2012 12:42 PM (8dspl)
Only sixty-two more dances to sit through and this recital is over. And my father-in-law forgot to bring the Scotch.
The terrorists have won.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 10, 2012 12:42 PM (j7/ZK)
New H. L. Mencken quote (shamelessly stolen from Michelle's Mirror)
The government consists of a gang of men exactly like you and me. They have, taking one with another, no special talent for the business of government; they have only a talent for getting and holding office.
Posted by: Ma Bell at June 10, 2012 12:43 PM (uVuwp)
Posted by: dulce at June 10, 2012 12:44 PM (+55AZ)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 10, 2012 12:44 PM (niZvt)
Yours is probably the only Subaru in America with a Romney sticker.
Posted by: Ombudsman at June 10, 2012 12:45 PM (AxHOT)
Actually no. The Cherokee land was in North GA in the hills and mountains. The age old reason for greed is what made them want to steal the Cherokee land; gold.
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 12:45 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 10, 2012 12:45 PM (niZvt)
Oh, that reminds me, I haven't checked of FireDogLake in months. brb
Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2012 12:45 PM (kpCLl)
But the Cubs are even are worse than they were before Epstein.
He's kinda like Obama in a way. Came in as a savior-figure only to have an even worse record than his predecessor.
Posted by: soothsayer, for your own good at June 10, 2012 04:39 PM (KreG+)
He laid out his plan, and acknowledged that immediate success was not in the cards. The cupboard is pretty bare at the AA and AAA levels, so the whole organization needs rebuilding - it's a long process. I'd guess another couple bad seasons are coming before signs of improvement start showing and they have a chance to contend for the division, if even then. He still has to deal with the Soriano contract, find pitching, etc. Unlike Obama, Epstein did come into the job with proven track record of success and accomplishment, so he deserves some time.
One good sign is that for the first time in many years, the Cubs rank at the bottom of the league in dollars committed to current players in 2013, so the cash needed to start making moves will be available in the very-near future.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2012 12:45 PM (lJJMb)
You're not doing the "Dad's Dance" at the end?
Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 10, 2012 12:47 PM (xKC/c)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 10, 2012 12:48 PM (niZvt)
Bad stuff.
Rants. Deleted comments Closed comments sections. Open comments just for now. The looming threat of registration.
The good news is that we will not be given up and down ding buttons. We'll still have to "twinkle."
Posted by: Dianna at June 10, 2012 12:49 PM (mKMj1)
Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2012 12:49 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 10, 2012 12:49 PM (niZvt)
Barack and Michelle will have a wonderful future ahead of them. When they leave the White House, they will return to Hyde Park and start attending the church where they were married, again. They will be fast friends with the Mayor of Chicago and help him restore that city to the greatness it once had. And then, they will join the World Bank and IMF together into "The Obama Checking Account Christmas and Ramadan Savings Club", to help finance an Islamic space program.
And this all takes place in the universe where Spock has a beard.
In this world, Barack and Michelle return to Hyde Park and get Bill Ayers to write another turgid autobiography all about Barack called "All About Me". Michelle stalks Oprah Winfrey until she gives here a show on the Oprah Network called "Bad Ideas in Fashion", which will only last for 13 episodes and cancelled due to non-existent ratings and advertisers. Oprah sues the Obamas for damages and is then found in the Chicago River with a stomach full of aspirin, and a suicide note babbling about being the daughter of a share cropper and that her hair should be purple. Whatever.
Michelle and Barack travel the world (except Kenya), and basically badmouth everybody, while their Secret Service detail tries to avoid total depresssion by hiring out high priced hookers. Hilarity ensues. The Clintons hold a welcome home party for the Obamas in Fort Marcy Park outside DC, but they shrewdly decline and instead go to see George Soros, who pretends he never ever heard of them and doesn't give them the time of day. So they go to visit Warren Buffet, who gives them some sage advice to buy stock in Berkshire Hathaway (because he is the Sage of Omaha, haha).
But don't worry about them! Rezko and Blagojevich will be out of prison someday, and then they can mount some kinda comeback. Yeah, that's the ticket.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at June 10, 2012 12:50 PM (sJTmU)
Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2012 04:16 PM (kpCLl) <<<
I bet he ends up on the Oprah Network "slowjamming the news", and Michelle could do an combo exercise/healthy eating show. Come to think of it, maybe this has been in the works since her network is the OWN, it could go from "Oprah Winfrey Network" to the "Obama Winfrey Network" very easily.
>>>Maybe. It still wouldn't preclude her being on
corporate boards. I'm not sure that her surrendering her law license was
all that sinister (what could she have done? she didn't actually do
anything of consequence), it could just be that she didn't want to pay
bar dues or something.
See, I think Michelle has utter contempt
for Hillary and what she's done vis-a-vis staying with Bill. I also
don't think she has her own national political ambitions. I think she
sees a future of more magazine covers.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 10, 2012 04:23 PM (J5tI6) <<<
I have been in real estate for 22 years, and in that time, I have seen very few people surrender their licenses voluntarily. Some do for financial reasons, it costs $80 every other year to keep it, but the difference is that you only need 45 hours of education to be able to sit for the salesperson license, roughly one week of classes. A law license entails a lot more education requirements than that. I know of a bunch of lawyers that stopped practicing law, but they kept their licenses "inactive". They still pay a fee, but they will have to go through continuing education to get their license back to active.
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Posted by: macintx at June 10, 2012 04:24 PM (ucs8Y) <<<
One surrenders their license because of a complaint being filed. Most of the time the licensing authority will start an investigation, and the inform the licensee of that investigation. If the licensee voluntarily surrenders their license, the investigation stops. Once that happens, the whole matter goes away saving everyone from embarrassment.
Posted by: MrCaniac at June 10, 2012 12:51 PM (1grxW)
I say LBJ was the next worst because he finished off what little capitalism was left and expanded the useless Vietnam war, thus turning an entire generation against the military and killing patriotism in this country.
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 12:51 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Travis at June 10, 2012 12:51 PM (9WkMB)
It's not necessarily expensive to keep up but it's an enormous pain in the ass. If you don't plan on practicing, there's no point at all in going through the hassle. Not to mention that you don't have to worry about keeping malpractice insurance. If the plan was to do something else, it makes sense to surrender the license and then reapply for it later if necessary.
That's not to say that's what happened, the point is that we don't know what happened. It could have been for innocent reasons or it could have been an agreement in lieu of public sanctions.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 10, 2012 12:53 PM (yTtpr)
Posted by: Comanche Voter at June 10, 2012 12:53 PM (6USwK)
I think that is the general consensus. They used it in small amounts for jewelry, particularly the ones in the Southwest.
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 12:53 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 10, 2012 12:54 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Happy at June 10, 2012 12:55 PM (lkdo/)
Barack Obama will be the first ex-president to host SNL.
I believe they were once trying to get Clinton to host it, but I thought money was an issue or perhaps something else. That won't be a problem for the SCOAMF because he won't care about the money only the adulation from the NYC idiots that sit in the show's audience.
Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2012 12:55 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 10, 2012 04:37 PM (niZvt)
I'll give him that.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 12:55 PM (IEUSX)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 10, 2012 12:55 PM (yTtpr)
Jindal concluded that Obama is “the most liberal, most incompetent president in the White House since Jimmy Carter.”
Billy Cliton was probably more sexually liberal than Obama. Obama is more of a social conservative than Clinton? I think Clinton is happy.
Posted by: Happy at June 10, 2012 12:56 PM (lkdo/)
142
135 Just saw that the Obama Girl - you know, the girl in the video with the big rack from the 2008 campaign - won't endorse Obama this time around. Like rats off a sinking ship.....
Posted by: Ombudsman at June 10, 2012 04:37 PM (AxHOT)
There's a rock in my yard I call The Obama Rock. Its only accomplishment is stubbing my toe. Even it won't endorse the SCOAMF this time around.
And I have just been diagnosed with adnotamentumaphobia. It's a struggle but I'm coping.
Posted by: Riding Through The Desert On A Sock With No Name at June 10, 2012 12:57 PM (MG6Y6)
Posted by: Ombudsman at June 10, 2012 04:37 PM (AxHOT)
I saw a story many months ago which claimed she wasn't an Obama supporter in the first place. She was hired by a company to produce that video claiming that she loved Obama. It was just an acting gig.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 12:57 PM (IEUSX)
President ObamaÂ’s campaign is calling on supporters to grade its performance amid a difficult early June for his reelection bid against presumptive GOP nominee Mitt Romney.
One disadvantage to the Democrats of their MSM support is that they'll soon be suffering from thousands of campaign managers.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 10, 2012 12:57 PM (J5tI6)
They have not dropped their license and they were certainly NOT disbarred as some people have said.
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 12:57 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Dianna at June 10, 2012 12:58 PM (mKMj1)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 10, 2012 04:37 PM (niZvt)
I'll give him that.
****
Well, he felt that way three decades ago but now, the way he inflicts himself on the international diplomacy scene, I wouldn't bet on it.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2012 12:59 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Boston12GS at June 10, 2012 12:59 PM (rdSyJ)
Obama is incompetent but purposeful. ---Big difference, there is
Posted by: SantaRosaStan, semi-angry but not senile yet at June 10, 2012 01:00 PM (Dll6b)
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 04:45 PM (YdQQY)
It wasn't just the Cherokee's land that was stolen. My recollection was that they also took the lands of the Choctaw, the Chickasaw, the Creek, etc, and even tried to get the land from the Seminole.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 01:00 PM (IEUSX)
Posted by: soothsayer, for your own good at June 10, 2012 01:00 PM (GcwH1)
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at June 10, 2012 01:00 PM (YSyyZ)
They have not dropped their license and they were certainly NOT disbarred as some people have said.
Pfffft, stop bringing in boring facts and stuff.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 10, 2012 01:01 PM (yTtpr)
Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2012 01:01 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: SantaRosaStan, not funny but not angry at June 10, 2012 01:01 PM (Dll6b)
Posted by: Truman North at June 10, 2012 04:09 PM (I2LwF)
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Ya. I got that one.
Posted by: mama winger at June 10, 2012 01:02 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: AmishDude at June 10, 2012 04:57 PM (J5tI6)
I hope they get tons of feedback from progressive true-believers, and that they follow all that advice to a T. If so, the Strategic Pudding Reserve will have to be tapped due to enormous demand, because dipping in yogurt would be gauche. I'm assuming the proper flavor for a Romney win is plain old vanilla.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2012 01:02 PM (lJJMb)
Posted by: SantaRosaStan, not funny but not angry at June 10, 2012 05:01 PM (Dll6b)
Nah, he shot him in the head. Clearly he thought he was a zombie.
Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2012 01:02 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Mama AJ at June 10, 2012 01:03 PM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Boston12GS at June 10, 2012 01:04 PM (rdSyJ)
Posted by: macintx at June 10, 2012 01:05 PM (ucs8Y)
Posted by: SantaRosaStan, not funny but not angry at June 10, 2012 05:01 PM (Dll6b)
Naah...no wooden stake. And don't even start with silver bullets.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2012 01:05 PM (lJJMb)
That's not to say that's what happened, the point is that we don't know what happened. It could have been for innocent reasons or it could have been an agreement in lieu of public sanctions.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 10, 2012 04:53 PM (yTtpr)<<<
If your license is inactive, you do not pay the insurance because you are not practicing law.
>>>
They have not dropped their license and they were certainly NOT disbarred as some people have said.
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 04:57 PM (YdQQY)<<<
"Inactive" and "surrendered" are not interchangeable. You have to apply to have your license to go inactive. You must mail your license back in when you surrender it. As for being disbarred, no they were not disbarred, and I didn't say they had been disbarred. When someone has their license revoked (disbarment), it is very public. When someone surrenders their license, it is "voluntary". Sometimes people give up their licenses voluntarily, but most of the time when they "surrender" them, they do so to stop an investigation which will not be kind to them.
Posted by: MrCaniac at June 10, 2012 01:07 PM (1grxW)
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 04:51 PM (YdQQY)
Not to mention his creation of "vote farming" via the welfare system. The Secondary effects of his "war on poverty" are still killing and immiserating people every day. It has had a substantial impact on the breakup of marriage as an institution and has likewise created a multitude of bad consequences for society as a whole.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 01:07 PM (IEUSX)
197 Don't read this and don't start doing it here.
Heh. Slightly related, on the dark site yesterday somebody linked to twitchy how the liberals had created the hash #DOH meaning Denial Of Hash to indicate when conservatives had taken over one of their hashtags. So what happened? Well conservatives took over the #DOH hashtag.
Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2012 01:08 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2012 01:08 PM (MCDCp)
But the big case that Jackson was involved in as President was the Cherokee. The court ruled against him and he ignored the court order. He made his infamous statement about them making their decision, let them enforce it.
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 01:08 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: soothsayer, for your own good at June 10, 2012 01:09 PM (vyPsz)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at June 10, 2012 01:09 PM (GE1+K)
Posted by: Boston12GS at June 10, 2012 01:09 PM (rdSyJ)
Posted by: MrCaniac at June 10, 2012 01:10 PM (1grxW)
I never said you said that. Some have said it. There was a lot of people in the blog world who were saying they were disbarred.
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 01:10 PM (YdQQY)
http://www.barackobama.com/share-your-feedback
Posted by: jonsten at June 10, 2012 04:03 PM (fVgpT)
A few 100,000 opposite George answers done the right way could really screw with those idiots.
Posted by: rightlysouthern at June 10, 2012 01:10 PM (dM5QS)
Criminal immigrants a socialist tearducts hardest hit.
http://bit.ly/O9eBCu
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2012 01:10 PM (piMMO)
face down in the mud, etc. Lots of real Walter Sobchaks created. And more
Posted by: SantaRosaStan, not funny but not angry at June 10, 2012 01:11 PM (Dll6b)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2012 01:11 PM (MCDCp)
Conservative progressives and liberal progressives? Is there any difference?
Progressive capitalists? So many flavors of progressives.
Posted by: Happy at June 10, 2012 01:14 PM (lkdo/)
It depends on what they were doing, which we don't know. The rules on who has to carry legal malpractice insurance, for what and why are complicated, not to mention idiotic. For example, I worked at a place that had a real estate practice area and all of the title searchers had to have a malpractice policy, whether or not they were licensed attorneys.
Again, I am not saying any of these are what happened with the Obamas, we don't know what happened. I'm simply pointing out that there are many many variations on what could have occurred.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 10, 2012 01:14 PM (yTtpr)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 10, 2012 04:55 PM (yTtpr)
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I have researched and argued this issue for the last four years, and I suspect I probably know more about it than do most. Barack was accused before the Illinois Bar, of lying on his bar application. Apparently his lies consisted of attesting that he did not do drugs, that he had no outstanding fines, and that he never went by another name during his life.
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The evidence against him was the quotes from his own book where he admitted driving drunk and doing drugs. It was also pointed out that he owed traffic fines in excess of the amount required to be reported on the bar application, which he did not do, and it was pointed out that he once went under the name "Barry Soetero" during the period of time he lived in Indonesia.
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I have yet to discover why Michelle's license was suspended, but I did discover it WAS suspended for disciplinary cause. The rumors as to why it was suspended revolve around her work as a legal assistant for Chicago's mayor back in the 1990s. Apparently she was involved in some sort of corrupt/unethical land deal, but like I said, it's only rumors.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 01:15 PM (IEUSX)
Posted by: Boston12GS at June 10, 2012 01:17 PM (rdSyJ)
They have not dropped their license and they were certainly NOT disbarred as some people have said.
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 04:57 PM (YdQQY)
Michelle relinquished it as the result of a disciplinary action. I've researched this and discussed this quite thoroughly on Free Republic and a website called "Talkpolywell.org". Barack gave up his law license rather than face a disbarment hearing. I found a copy of the original bar complaint against him. He was accused of lying on his bar application, and he did in fact do so.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 01:19 PM (IEUSX)
Posted by: Boston12GS at June 10, 2012 01:19 PM (rdSyJ)
Posted by: Happy at June 10, 2012 01:21 PM (lkdo/)
Posted by: MrCaniac at June 10, 2012 05:07 PM (1grxW)
That is what the evidence shows. Google "Obama bar complaint" and the first link will take you to the story.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 01:23 PM (IEUSX)
Legal sites with access to the IL bar records say they are both on inactive status and there is no record of "surrender" or disciplinary action. Snopes calls all that an urban legend.
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 01:23 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Boston12GS at June 10, 2012 01:24 PM (rdSyJ)
Posted by: Woody at June 10, 2012 01:26 PM (07RHD)
Well...now he moved up to politics. So many lawyers move "up" to politics. Politicians are generally the only ones who lie and cheat more than lawyers. I accept this is life and probably will never change. Acceptance makes me happy.
Posted by: Happy at June 10, 2012 01:26 PM (lkdo/)
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 01:26 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 05:08 PM (YdQQY)
That is all true of course, but many more tribes in the South were affected. I would find it hard to believe that none of the seized lands got used for slave plantations. In any case, he also created the DNC that we know and love today. Yes friends, Andrew Jackson created THE Democratic National Committee.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 01:28 PM (IEUSX)
Snopes has taken to stretching the truth themselves to protect Obama. They are a useless arbiter of claims against him.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at June 10, 2012 01:29 PM (GE1+K)
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 05:26 PM (YdQQY)
I'm a dis-robe-er
Posted by: momma at June 10, 2012 01:29 PM (sYijI)
Nixon won it, and then the Democratic congress of 1974 abrogated our treaty obligations, creating the killing fields and the deaths of millions.
The Democrat Party has this blood, and the blood of many others, directly on its hands.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2012 05:11 PM (MCDCp)
Throughout it's entire history.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 01:30 PM (IEUSX)
Posted by: momma at June 10, 2012 01:31 PM (sYijI)
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 05:17 PM (YdQQY)
Just did a google search, apparently National Review shows up as a link. I would guess they are relatively reputable among conservatives.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 01:32 PM (IEUSX)
Posted by: momma at June 10, 2012 05:29 PM (sYijI)
Ms. Kagan can kindly stay enrobed. Unrelated, I recognize your name from something last week, and you were right - Tee Jay's is the best drunk food at 0300. Barnyard Buster FTW.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2012 01:34 PM (lJJMb)
>>>Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2012 05:11 PM (MCDCp)
>>>Throughout it's entire history.
Nathaniel Grigsby Epitaph 1890
Through this inscription I wish to enter my dying protest against what is called the Democratic party. I have watched it closely since the days of Jackson and know that all the misfortunes of our nation have come to it through this so called party. Therefore, beware of this party of treason.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at June 10, 2012 01:34 PM (GE1+K)
Posted by: mama winger at June 10, 2012 01:34 PM (P6QsQ)
As for Snopes, I have never found anything there glaringly wrong.
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 01:35 PM (YdQQY)
Relatively reputable, but sadly not the gold standard they once were.
Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at June 10, 2012 01:35 PM (IlZPo)
Posted by: momma at June 10, 2012 05:31 PM (sYijI)
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And as such, in no way should the contents of my bank account be used for any of its activities, before, during or after.
Posted by: mama winger at June 10, 2012 01:36 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at June 10, 2012 01:39 PM (GE1+K)
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 05:23 PM (YdQQY)
I believe I can show you otherwise. I will have to look up all the pertinent information, but according to the statement of James Grogan, deputy administrator and chief counsel for the Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois, Michelles license was ordered inactive in accordance with Illinois Supreme court rule 770. If you look at rule 770 in existence in 1994, (since changed.) it dealt only with disciplinary actions. Nothing in there about "voluntary" relinquishment.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 01:40 PM (IEUSX)
I think both will also seek the limelight as long as it's within their control and among sychophants. They will be lionized within the African American community and my fear is that they will become race baiters and worsen race relations for decades. At first they'll probably be low key in this respect but over time it could worsen.
Posted by: Mayday at June 10, 2012 01:41 PM (orrLR)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at June 10, 2012 01:44 PM (JKNDp)
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 05:26 PM (YdQQY)
I'm assuming that's not a slap. I make no bones about where I stand on all three issues. Truthers: Utter crap. "Birthers": There really is a there there. "Disbarrers": Just going where the available evidence has led. Like I said, National Review ought to be a rather credible source.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 01:44 PM (IEUSX)
As for Snopes, I have never found anything there glaringly wrong.
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 05:35 PM (YdQQY)
I have the page up currently. It is National Review On line. I'm not going to create a short url to post it. (Why does Ace make it so damned hard to post a link?) Just google "obama bar complaint" it will be the third link from the top.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 01:48 PM (IEUSX)
The book made Jackson relocating the indians as his effort to save them from being wiped out like the indians of the NE and Ohio valley, etc. Very hard to think how things would have worked if they'd not been moved. Same goes for all the indian history in the plains. I don' think there were any good options.
Posted by: Yip in Texas at June 10, 2012 01:49 PM (Mrdk1)
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 05:35 PM (YdQQY)
You're kidding right? They claim those nude photos of Stanley Ann are actually Marcy Moore. Look at a picture of Marcy Moore with those huge tits, and tell me those Stanley Ann photos look the same. Utter bullshit. I automatically disregard anything snopes says as biased and partisan.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 01:50 PM (IEUSX)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at June 10, 2012 05:39 PM (GE1+K)
Ace has repeatedly said to quit doing X, Y, and Z. Some jackoff proceeds to do X, It gets pointed out that they need to quit doing it. It gets scrubbed. They do X again. Ace sees it and says to stop it. And they do X again. Bye bye idiot. Ace is commenting to cut it out, and so along comes someone that does YYYYYYY. Bye bye to them. Then later asshole come along and declares ace to be a pussy because they are actually big time internet hardass totally unafraid of anything like ace, so here's their real name. Banned. And then they come back because "haha you can't ban me because I have unlimited IPs"
Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2012 01:52 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at June 10, 2012 01:52 PM (RdYlc)
Posted by: Yip in Texas at June 10, 2012 01:53 PM (Mrdk1)
Posted by: Yip in Texas at June 10, 2012 05:49 PM (Mrdk1)
Interesting perspective. I'll keep it in mind in the future. If true, maybe he wasn't such an asshole. I and a friend have wondered for years how he could have so badly betrayed the Seminoles who had treated him as a friend.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 01:55 PM (IEUSX)
IOW, they do not believe it.
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 01:57 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Yip in Texas at June 10, 2012 05:53 PM (Mrdk1)
Some of the progressive bullshit started with Teddy Roosevelt. On the other hand, Silent Cal was actually a good conservative style President. He put the government on a sound financial footing while he served.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 01:58 PM (IEUSX)
He seems to have been focusing on his legacy since before inauguration. I'd rather put up with him being simply pompous and arrogant than destructive (and pompous and arrogant).
Posted by: Mayday at June 10, 2012 01:58 PM (orrLR)
Posted by: Reggie "Bodyman" Luv at June 10, 2012 02:00 PM (YYyqq)
effort to save them from being wiped out like the indians of the NE and
Ohio valley, etc. Very hard to think how things would have worked if
they'd not been moved. Same goes for all the indian history in the
plains. I don' think there were any good options.
Posted by: Yip in Texas at June 10, 2012 05:49 PM (Mrdk1)
None of that was involved with relocating the Cherokees from GA.
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 02:02 PM (YdQQY)
IOW, they do not believe it.
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 05:57 PM (YdQQY)
They do not believe it was filed? According to the article, they say it WAS FILED.
That is the one salient fact, not whether the anonymous filer was making a joke at the end. (Or dodging retaliation.)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 02:02 PM (IEUSX)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 02:06 PM (IEUSX)
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No, they don't believe the allegation.
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 02:07 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 05:10 PM (YdQQY) <<<
I know, and I apologize for that.
>>>It depends on what they were doing, which we
don't know. The rules on who has to carry legal malpractice insurance,
for what and why are complicated, not to mention idiotic. For example, I
worked at a place that had a real estate practice area and all of the
title searchers had to have a malpractice policy, whether or not they
were licensed attorneys.
Again, I am not saying any of these
are what happened with the Obamas, we don't know what happened. I'm
simply pointing out that there are many many variations on what could
have occurred.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 10, 2012 05:14 PM (yTtpr) <<<
The key is that they are performing the duties by doing title searches. Once they no longer do the title searches, they no longer need the insurance.
>>>I don't know what state MrCaniac is speaking of,
perhaps it's the same one as that in which the Obama's have/had their
law licenses, but that statement would not be true in my state. I've
had a varied career, and those years when it was clear I wouldn't be
actively practicing law I registered as "inactive" and paid half the
usual bar dues. I most certainly did NOT have to "apply" to return to
active status--the next time the dues were due I paid the full active
dues and that was it.
Just saying, there's a lot of variation state to state, and it's
risky making generalizations based on any one state (unless, I suppose,
it's the state where the Obama's are/were members of the bar, and
therefore truly specific).
Posted by: Boston12GS at June 10, 2012 05:17 PM (rdSyJ)<<<
The Commonwealth of Virginia. I am not 100% sure how one goes about getting your license placed as inactive, but I have sure seen how people have had their licenses "surrendered". Hint, 99% of the time it has to do with monkeying with escrow accounts, i.e., other peoples' money.
Posted by: MrCaniac at June 10, 2012 02:07 PM (1grxW)
Posted by: Yip in Texas at June 10, 2012 02:08 PM (Mrdk1)
Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2012 05:52 PM (GULKT)
Thanks
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at June 10, 2012 02:09 PM (GE1+K)
Posted by: Yip in Texas at June 10, 2012 02:14 PM (Mrdk1)
Posted by: Yip in Texas at June 10, 2012 06:08 PM (Mrdk1)
No, I agree, but this whole thing started with Andrew Jackson and Cherokee relocation. And I think the Cherokee could have lived side by side. Remember, they were the "civilized tribe".
But I must admit some bias since I am part Cherokee, but not related to E. Warren.
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 02:14 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 06:07 PM (YdQQY)
What's not to believe? The allegations look pretty well proven based on what is purported to be in his book. The man actually has a so-called autobiography in which he ADMITS doing drugs and driving drunk.
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Apart from that, the complaint has a lot more accusations than just that. You can see the rest of it with a google search. I've read the whole thing back in 2008, and the charges look provable to me. It wasn't long after these charges were filed that Barack voluntarily surrendered his license. I was actually looking forward to seeing him attend a disbarment hearing.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 02:14 PM (IEUSX)
Posted by: Yip in Texas at June 10, 2012 06:14 PM (Mrdk1)
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Yup. That's pretty much my understanding.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 02:17 PM (IEUSX)
Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2012 02:18 PM (GULKT)
But I must admit some bias since I am part Cherokee, but not related to E. Warren.
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 06:14 PM (YdQQY)
I'm supposed to be part Cherokee as well. My Grandfather was Half Cherokee. He and his mother are actually on the Dawes Indian rolls. Our difficulty is proving those two on the roles are OUR Great-Grandmother and Great-Grandfather because we know of no marriage certificate to our Great-Grandfather.
We can prove who our grandfather is relating to us, but we can't prove that he is the same person as is on the Dawes roll. Of course, we haven't really tried either.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 02:22 PM (IEUSX)
Posted by: Yip in Texas at June 10, 2012 02:23 PM (Mrdk1)
Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2012 06:18 PM (GULKT)
You have it backwards. I am the true DISbeliever and so is Snopes, so is NRO, so are the legal blogs and everyone else halfway reliable.
But you are right, no point in arguing with "true believers".
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 02:23 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2012 06:18 PM (GULKT)
Or someone who will deny the evidence placed right in front of them where they can read it for themselves.
It is not going to bother me whatever you chose to believe. I just thought I was doing you the service of informing you, and for that I am now sorry.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 02:24 PM (IEUSX)
I think the last case of that was the Spanish agitating the Seminoles and that happened while Jackson was still a General.
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 02:26 PM (YdQQY)
But you are right, no point in arguing with "true believers".
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Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 06:23 PM (YdQQY)
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Vic, I like you and I respect your opinion. Always have. As far as i'm concerned, It doesn't really matter anyway. It doesn't hurt my feelings if you want to believe that Obama simply gave it up. It ultimately provides no advancement for Conservatism one way or the other.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 02:27 PM (IEUSX)
But that is the point everyone has made. He has NOT given it up. It is inactive and can be reactivated at any time.
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 02:32 PM (YdQQY)
It is not going to bother me whatever you chose to believe. I just thought I was doing you the service of informing you, and for that I am now sorry.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 06:24 PM (IEUSX)
Your "evidence" apparently says that you are wrong.
Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2012 02:32 PM (GULKT)
I had to go back and re-read your post. I misinterpreted it, sorry.
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 02:35 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Yip in Texas at June 10, 2012 02:37 PM (Mrdk1)
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 06:32 PM (YdQQY)
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And so can the complaint. I honestly don't understand why you are so resistant to the notion that he possibly gave up his license as a result of the complaint being filed. It seems pretty unremarkable to me.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 02:48 PM (IEUSX)
Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2012 06:32 PM (GULKT)
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If you say so. I must not have read that part.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 02:49 PM (IEUSX)
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 02:57 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2012 06:57 PM (YdQQY)
Thanks. I can't stand that prick Charles Johnson.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 10, 2012 03:01 PM (IEUSX)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2012 03:06 PM (MCDCp)
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at June 10, 2012 03:35 PM (9yE9L)
Posted by: steevy at June 10, 2012 03:48 PM (Xb3hu)
Posted by: sandman says ...comment redacted at June 10, 2012 03:57 PM (zxaA2)
Barry Obama is just following in the footsteps of this giant of a president.
Posted by: Evan at June 10, 2012 04:56 PM (DSW5f)
"I am a candidate for president."
I will accept:
"I accept Mr. Romney's offer to be his running mate!"
Posted by: Sgt. York at June 10, 2012 06:09 PM (pqW4Y)
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