August 23, 2012
— CAC Rasmussen will be releasing a poll this morning showing Akin costing us dearly in Missouri: McCaskill 48% Akin 38%.
Time to pack it up and stop screwing us, big guy.
Poll result here
More telling- most Democrats want him to stay, most Republicans want him out. Which party is he representing again?
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05:43 AM
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Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 23, 2012 05:44 AM (QXlbZ)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 23, 2012 05:45 AM (QXlbZ)
Posted by: BidenloidTheHappy at August 23, 2012 05:46 AM (QSHbO)
Posted by: bannor, voting Sweet Meteor of Death 2012 at August 23, 2012 05:46 AM (HEa5q)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 23, 2012 05:47 AM (QXlbZ)
Posted by: CAC at August 23, 2012 05:47 AM (HnvH5)
Missouri only affects the probability of a Senate win by about 4%.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 23, 2012 05:49 AM (QXlbZ)
It's so frustrating to lose several winnable seats in '10 because of lousy candidates, only to repeat the same mistake this time around. What were you thinking, MO?
Posted by: Chris at August 23, 2012 05:50 AM (gI9Bk)
Posted by: bobbymike at August 23, 2012 05:50 AM (wJSZn)
And by "talk" I mean beat him senseless with his WarCock of Agony and Pain.
Posted by: EC at August 23, 2012 05:50 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Todd Akin, OBGYN at August 23, 2012 05:51 AM (WR5xI)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 23, 2012 05:51 AM (bmHOj)
But no women I raped ever got pregnant.
These jokes just write themselves. Be nice if the scrunt Akin went bankrupt.
Posted by: Rapin Akin at August 23, 2012 05:52 AM (wUFaM)
Posted by: Havedash at August 23, 2012 05:52 AM (F0WNa)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 23, 2012 05:53 AM (QXlbZ)
Posted by: Gerry at August 23, 2012 05:53 AM (kycA/)
Posted by: Vic at August 23, 2012 05:53 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Todd Akin, OBGYN at August 23, 2012 05:53 AM (WR5xI)
Posted by: GuyfromNH at August 23, 2012 05:53 AM (kbOju)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro,Vt at August 23, 2012 05:54 AM (48wze)
the generic congressional close to +1 GOP from +4, and SCOAMF and Romney are neck and neck....
thanks Huck....
"Almighty, Almighty this is DealaMeal Razorback6 I need everything you got on Mitt's position over?"
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 05:54 AM (LRFds)
(*i'm not cynical, i'm experienced. %-)
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 23, 2012 05:54 AM (8MasJ)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 23, 2012 05:54 AM (CrOSO)
Posted by: Penfold at August 23, 2012 05:55 AM (1PeEC)
Posted by: Gerry at August 23, 2012 05:55 AM (kycA/)
Posted by: Vic at August 23, 2012 05:56 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Gerry at August 23, 2012 05:56 AM (kycA/)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at August 23, 2012 05:58 AM (Ho2rs)
Make sure you put a note at the bottom that say approved and paid for by the DNC.
Posted by: Vic at August 23, 2012 05:59 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at August 23, 2012 05:59 AM (J6kXj)
Posted by: Y-not at August 23, 2012 05:59 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 23, 2012 06:00 AM (B+qrE)
Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! at August 23, 2012 06:00 AM (ZiYQG)
Posted by: Dr. Akin FACOG at August 23, 2012 06:00 AM (Gx3Fe)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 23, 2012 06:00 AM (UjSt7)
Posted by: Gerry at August 23, 2012 06:01 AM (kycA/)
Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at August 23, 2012 06:01 AM (J6kXj)
Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at August 23, 2012 06:01 AM (SDkq3)
Posted by: eman at August 23, 2012 06:01 AM (Wp4rQ)
Posted by: Gerry at August 23, 2012 06:01 AM (kycA/)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 23, 2012 06:01 AM (UOYbf)
Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at August 23, 2012 06:02 AM (J6kXj)
Posted by: Gerry at August 23, 2012 06:03 AM (kycA/)
Posted by: Fritz at August 23, 2012 06:03 AM (/ZZCn)
He doesn't need to step down due to the abortion gaffe. He needs to step down because he is an idiot.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at August 23, 2012 06:03 AM (hlUJY)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at August 23, 2012 06:03 AM (Ho2rs)
Um, "no" Barack Obama holds the entire US Military hostage every time Boner tries to rein him in champ....but don't worry you may get your wish and not have Boner in charge in a half year....
"Miss me yet?"
//Pelosi
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 06:04 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Lady in Black at August 23, 2012 06:04 AM (lTVJy)
Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at August 23, 2012 06:05 AM (J6kXj)
Breaking O/T: Our Old Lady of the Ecco Homo Restoration has a facebook page. She does Beef Jerky Portraits. Mitt, Barry and Michelle are pictured:
http://tinyurl.com/bv93d6w
Posted by: 66chevelle at August 23, 2012 06:05 AM (QjSgY)
56 -
You know, the strident, angry feminist voice just doesn't play well in 2012. They can pack and stack their convention with as many latterday Abzugs and Steinems as they please. That is not the issue of the moment. And they in no way present acceptable eye candy to the American female.
Posted by: kallisto at August 23, 2012 06:05 AM (jm/9g)
Posted by: Gerry at August 23, 2012 06:06 AM (kycA/)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 23, 2012 06:06 AM (8y9MW)
That's the answer! We'll have Dick Lugar persuade him to drop out.
Posted by: pep at August 23, 2012 06:07 AM (YXmuI)
Posted by: Mobi Juan Bendovi at August 23, 2012 06:07 AM (dFN3f)
I would not go there if I were you; Clinton giving keynote address ? seriously ? Akin be gone by Labor day, Clinton who splattered his semen all over an intern in the oval office, is still speaking for the Dem Party. See what I mean ?
Posted by: runner at August 23, 2012 06:07 AM (WR5xI)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 23, 2012 06:07 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Jean at August 23, 2012 06:08 AM (5HAgy)
Because JFK was such a horrible, horrible president, right?
Posted by: @PurpAv at August 23, 2012 06:08 AM (1sjSo)
Apparently ordinary people in Missouri aren't buying it if this poll is correct.
Well at least Republicans. I hear Democrats are trying to throw him a financial lifeline to stay in.
So now it's all about Akin, stealth Democrat - is it?
Posted by: Exile at August 23, 2012 06:08 AM (GGCsk)
Posted by: Mr Fever Head at August 23, 2012 06:08 AM (SzAZ7)
Posted by: El Kabong at August 23, 2012 06:09 AM (tBduy)
Have you said anything intelligent here this week? No?
How about a more realistic standard....have you said anything intelligent here this year?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 23, 2012 06:09 AM (sbV1u)
I was just in a mini-rant about how the Dems proudly promote an impeached, disbarred, perjuring adulterer as their moral compass and political lodestar. What a bunch of shitheads.
Posted by: Lincolntf at August 23, 2012 06:09 AM (HethX)
I'm gonna go to Missori. What? And I'm gonna find Todd Akin. What? And I'm gonna hit him with a chair. What? And I'm gonna hit him with another. What? And another. What? And another. What? And another. What?
etc.
Posted by: Stone Cold Steve Austin at August 23, 2012 06:09 AM (e0xKF)
Yes, I think he's getting some Dem donations right now to tempt him to stay in.
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 23, 2012 06:10 AM (ccXZP)
Posted by: Lady in Black at August 23, 2012 06:10 AM (lTVJy)
Posted by: nickless at August 23, 2012 06:10 AM (Uon6A)
Posted by: eman at August 23, 2012 06:11 AM (Wp4rQ)
Posted by: Uterus Cannon at August 23, 2012 06:11 AM (3ZtZW)
I think (though I'm not certain) that it's part of the paid service- you get the results sooner and you get to see some more of the internals.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 23, 2012 06:11 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: El Kabong at August 23, 2012 06:11 AM (tBduy)
cue Beijing Billy lying his ass off about Obama's "plans"....
goddamnit I hate the media....
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 06:11 AM (LRFds)
Is the Missouri Republican Party legally obligated to allow Akin to run as its nominee or can the Party step in and replace him? I understand that these things aren't typically done, perhaps for fear of burning bridges, but sometimes you've gone a bridge too far.
As an extreme example, suppose the primary winner came out after the fact and denied the Holocaust. Would the Party be required to keep the candidate or could they cut him loose?
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at August 23, 2012 06:12 AM (JxMoP)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 23, 2012 06:12 AM (5kRy2)
I say we start with Modern North Korea and move backwards.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 23, 2012 06:12 AM (8y9MW)
When you tell a lib they can't have everything they want....it's a war.
Or a tantrum....I forget which.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 23, 2012 06:12 AM (sbV1u)
Mass graves, purges, gulags, and lot and lots of fail. Mmmmmm....tasty
Posted by: @PurpAv at August 23, 2012 06:12 AM (1sjSo)
Bond is probably an easy choice, depending on the write-in rules.
A really short and easy to remember name makes it much easier to win as a write-in. So does massive name recognition, which helped out that Murky skank from Alaska against Joe Miller.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 23, 2012 06:13 AM (e0xKF)
I say we start with Modern North Korea and move backwards.
The Kim dynasty is not founded on atheism.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 23, 2012 06:13 AM (B+qrE)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 23, 2012 06:13 AM (TMB3S)
Will Democrats appoint a monitor to ensure Bill Clinton stays away from Sandra Fluke?
Posted by: Exile at August 23, 2012 06:14 AM (GGCsk)
Posted by: Gerry at August 23, 2012 10:01 AM (kycA/)
Hey Gerry. Why don't you be a real brave man and go stand outside a mosque and ridicule islam. I'm sure you have equal disdain for islam as you do Christianity.
Posted by: Havedash at August 23, 2012 06:14 AM (F0WNa)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 23, 2012 06:14 AM (kDokH)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 23, 2012 06:14 AM (5kRy2)
Posted by: k at August 23, 2012 06:14 AM (uBVzH)
Dick Cheney needs to fly to Missouri and personally "talk" with Akin about his near future employment as an elected official.
Posted by: EC at August 23, 2012 09:50 AM (GQ8sn)
-------
"Todd, hey, this is Dick Cheney. Congrats on your win. Listen, I was thinking maybe a little bird-hunting photo-op would goose your campaign some. Coupla drinks, a little shootin'...if you don't drink, I'll drink for ya. Let's do this real soon."
Posted by: 66chevelle at August 23, 2012 06:15 AM (QjSgY)
Posted by: Y-not at August 23, 2012 06:15 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Serious Cat, lousy at sock puppeting at August 23, 2012 06:15 AM (zrpqj)
Posted by: El Kabong at August 23, 2012 06:15 AM (tBduy)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 23, 2012 06:15 AM (2v+KF)
Posted by: Red Shirt at August 23, 2012 06:16 AM (FIDMq)
the problem is the donks are going to flat out lie their asses off using Operation Shiny Objects to court the retard vote.....
maybe *we* ought to riot and destroy W 57th street
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 06:16 AM (LRFds)
"Hey Gerry. Why don't you be a real brave man and go stand outside a mosque and ridicule islam. I'm sure you have equal disdain for islam as you do Christianity."
He'll never do it. Physical and moral cowardice go hand in hand. Same reason Libs will go ape-shit about "big companies" hurting the poor, but won't drive 2 miles to the nearest slum and say jack-shit to the drug dealers and other assorted dregs who actually DO damage the lives of the poor. Utter pussbags, every one of them.
Posted by: Lincolntf at August 23, 2012 06:16 AM (HethX)
Posted by: My Ass Burns...stick it out the window and cool it off at August 23, 2012 06:16 AM (t2z5E)
Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 06:17 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 23, 2012 06:17 AM (05RcU)
However, his methodology is well known and respected. He conducts a monthly poll for party affiliation using a 15,000 person sample. He then weights his results based on that monthly sample. If he is giving R+2, that is because his monthly identification poll is showing R+2.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 23, 2012 06:17 AM (QXlbZ)
Seriously, it's time to move on from Akin and donate to some other mighty fine GOP campaign.
Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at August 23, 2012 06:18 AM (8kq7+)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 23, 2012 10:15 AM (2v+KF)
Question regarding that...name the number of polls that had a greater than 4 R sampling? I wont bother with 9 as it has to be never
Posted by: Red Shirt at August 23, 2012 06:18 AM (FIDMq)
It's like making Roman Polanski your babysitter.
Posted by: Exile at August 23, 2012 06:18 AM (GGCsk)
Posted by: navycopjoe at August 23, 2012 06:18 AM (3A7PP)
Posted by: The Akin Theory at August 23, 2012 06:18 AM (V40IZ)
Posted by: El Kabong at August 23, 2012 06:18 AM (tBduy)
this ain't luck this is an op....
Mike Huckabee needs his ass beaten, and his bloodied pus ridden inert form dropped unconscious in front of 1600 Pennsylvania avenue
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 06:19 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 23, 2012 06:19 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 06:19 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 23, 2012 06:19 AM (kDokH)
Posted by: El Kabong at August 23, 2012 06:20 AM (tBduy)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 23, 2012 06:20 AM (TMB3S)
"Sarah called this one right....boy, she's really stupid, isn't she?"
SHE IS TEH DUMBZ!
SHE JUST GOT LUCKY WITH HER GUESSES.
27 TIMES IN A ROW!
*fnargle snarf glarfng!*
Posted by: moonbat sarah haterz at August 23, 2012 06:20 AM (V40IZ)
Posted by: eman at August 23, 2012 06:20 AM (Wp4rQ)
Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! at August 23, 2012 06:20 AM (ZiYQG)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 23, 2012 10:19 AM (05RcU)
Dont forget..its whitey thats racist too
Posted by: MFM at August 23, 2012 06:20 AM (FIDMq)
"If Teh SARAH were to move there today she could run third party and save us all
TEAM SWEATER PUPPIES "
Palin / Hendricks 2012 - Earthquakes in Iran Like Never Before!
Posted by: reason at August 23, 2012 06:21 AM (V40IZ)
Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! at August 23, 2012 06:21 AM (ZiYQG)
Posted by: Phil Connors Blair at August 23, 2012 06:21 AM (2v+KF)
Posted by: the pink cracker formerly known as the hobbit Donna at August 23, 2012 06:22 AM (W2Z3C)
Posted by: Mr Fever Head at August 23, 2012 06:22 AM (SzAZ7)
Posted by: RioBravo at August 23, 2012 06:23 AM (eEfYn)
Posted by: El Kabong at August 23, 2012 06:23 AM (tBduy)
Posted by: Ben at August 23, 2012 06:23 AM (C2Y4l)
Posted by: Exile at August 23, 2012 06:23 AM (GGCsk)
"an NBC poll found 0% support for Romney amongst Black voters. Oh yeah great poll. NBC, a little biased are we?"
*doomy attack-ad music*
Even Paul Ryan's black ex-girlfriend won't vote for Mitt Romney...
Is this the type of ticket we can expect to bring our newly post-racial America to the next level?
Posted by: reason at August 23, 2012 06:24 AM (V40IZ)
Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! at August 23, 2012 10:20 AM (ZiYQG)
___
Do you think there is a place in the donk party for conservatives such as Artur Davis?
Posted by: kallisto at August 23, 2012 06:24 AM (jm/9g)
When figuring out 'how much Hispanic voters' like candidate X, do they weigh the responses by party? If not, why not?
Why is it that when we want to know what 'voters' think, we take a small (IMO) sample then weigh it. When we want to know what 'women/hispanics/etc' think, we take a small (IMO) sample and run with it.
Posted by: Tonic Dog at August 23, 2012 06:24 AM (X/+QT)
Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 06:24 AM (Dnbau)
The trolling is getting so out of hand here.
"The polls wouldn't have shifted"
Yeah, they have all shifted in Romney's and GOP candidate's direction. With the exception of MO.
Probability that the GOP retakes the Senate is currently, including this poll, 95.1%.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 23, 2012 06:25 AM (QXlbZ)
At the risk of sounding somewhat cynical and jaded... well shoot, I don't care about that, never mind-
Doesn't RMoney have a couple boxcars full of caysh right now? Can he not just send someone to Missouri with a large bat and a blank check to get this jackhole to uh, see some sense (and cents) and GTFO of the race?
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at August 23, 2012 06:25 AM (ksERZ)
Intellectual Property Law, do you speak it? I don't know that IP comes into play there, but I suspect it does. At the very least, the terms of service probably preclude you giving that information away for free, since that's part of how he makes his money.
As for curiosity? Not really. Ras has been proven over the years to be among the most accurate pollsters, and he makes his living by providing accurate polling. If he suddenly went in the crapper, it would hurt his credibility, and, thus, his business.
Also, people I trust, and who understand polls better than I do, have assured me that he's accurate and reliable. I trust them, so I trust him.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 23, 2012 06:26 AM (8y9MW)
I've seen Lautenberg in person. I am pretty sure he's a zombie, which works for him I guess.
Posted by: Exile at August 23, 2012 06:27 AM (GGCsk)
Posted by: Gerry at August 23, 2012 10:01 AM (kycA/)
not a NEWS FLASH: Gerry's IP is democrats.orj
Posted by: National Inquirer at August 23, 2012 06:27 AM (PcoXF)
Posted by: the pink cracker formerly known as the hobbit Donna at August 23, 2012 06:28 AM (W2Z3C)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, covering his bases at August 23, 2012 06:28 AM (GBXon)
Posted by: Y-not at August 23, 2012 06:28 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 23, 2012 06:28 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Exile at August 23, 2012 10:27 AM (GGCsk)
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The Lout showed up at the Ryan rally in West Chester PA the other day, to protest. I guess our own donk senator Bob Casey (the Lesser) couldn't be bothered on such a hot day. So they imported the old man from Joisey. A real wtf moment.
Posted by: kallisto at August 23, 2012 06:29 AM (jm/9g)
Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 06:29 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Cowboy Bob at August 23, 2012 06:29 AM (V9qC6)
Hard to believe that Brian Williams, who delivers at least one sloppy BJ to Bark Obama on NBC "news" every night, can go farther into the tank for his Messiah. But I'm positive he will, since he has Eeeeevil Mormonism to attack.
It is, of course, Wrong and Intolerant to report on the crimes committed in the name of Islam.
I have this increasingly forlorn hope that at least a few voters will one day look at Choom Boy's commercials (and those of his co-conspirators) and think "WTF?," but with so much non-stop cheerleading going on, I'm doubting it will happen.
Posted by: MrScribbler at August 23, 2012 06:30 AM (wZI4b)
No. Can you imagine the outrageous outrage over Romney paying Akin to get out of the race? We'd be told, nonstop, how Romney had "thwarted the will of the voters" and "meddled in a State race" with a "corrupt pay-off" of Akin.
Nope, Romney is doing the best think he can do: "The guy's an idiot. I don't agree with his statement. Next question."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 23, 2012 06:30 AM (8y9MW)
http://tinyurl.com/bv93d6w
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Is that Mooch on the left?
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 23, 2012 06:30 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: @PurpAv at August 23, 2012 06:31 AM (1sjSo)
Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! at August 23, 2012 06:31 AM (ZiYQG)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, covering his bases at August 23, 2012 06:31 AM (GBXon)
Posted by: lowfibass at August 23, 2012 06:31 AM (BrqlK)
Not really, because I know why. Partisan ID normalization. I know why Rasmussen normalizes and where he gets his factors from. What I don't know is why the Q poll uses a D+8, the Fox poll uses a D+11, and the Pew poll uses a D+19.
Providing crosstabs are nice, but they don't explain why they chose that normalization factor, when there are no electoral results that support it.
A few people have renormalized some of these polls (which is not something that results in perfect accuracy) and come up with a Romney lead of about 3 or 4 across the board. Pretty much in line with Rasmussen (and Gallup now).
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 23, 2012 06:31 AM (QXlbZ)
He chewed up out lead on the congressional generic, he chewed up a 2point Romney lead in Ras....
Bill Clinton just let loose with a vacuous lie based hail mary on the economy....
The goddamned Media is going to donate over 2 billion dollars worth of ad time to Obama....
and all because the hypocrit "god squad" of GOP mouthbreathers are religious bigots who will not attack obama's "faith" but want a Jihad on mitt's....
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 06:31 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: El Kabong at August 23, 2012 06:32 AM (tBduy)
Posted by: Justamom at August 23, 2012 06:32 AM (Sptt8)
Posted by: Gerry at August 23, 2012 06:32 AM (kycA/)
I think it's just some paperwork that has to be filed, and a Court Order issued. Technically the Court might reject it, but they'd be hard pressed to explain why. That is, if Akin chooses to drop out.
If the GOP tries to force him out (which would be bad), that's a different story, of course.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 23, 2012 06:32 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Uterus Cannon at August 23, 2012 06:32 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 23, 2012 06:33 AM (kDokH)
Huckabee is neither conservative or a republican based on past actions, he's just religious.
Posted by: @PurpAv at August 23, 2012 06:33 AM (1sjSo)
Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at August 23, 2012 06:33 AM (8kq7+)
Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at August 23, 2012 06:33 AM (J6kXj)
Posted by: k at August 23, 2012 10:14 AM (uBVzH)
What?! RR came out immediately and said they disagreed with Akin. The MO GOP tried to get him to drop out immediately. Current and former senators from MO advised him to drop out. Jon Cornyn pulled Akin's funding as did Karl Rove....immediately.
They can't move on because the MFM won't let them move on.
Posted by: Tami at August 23, 2012 06:33 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Mr Fever Head at August 23, 2012 06:33 AM (SzAZ7)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 23, 2012 06:33 AM (VtjlW)
I can imagine the outrageous outrage if it became KNOWN that RMoney had done this.
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at August 23, 2012 06:33 AM (ksERZ)
Posted by: Todd (I am all you need me to be) Akin at August 23, 2012 06:34 AM (3xuEM)
Posted by: El Kabong at August 23, 2012 06:34 AM (tBduy)
Posted by: Justamom at August 23, 2012 06:34 AM (Sptt8)
Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! at August 23, 2012 06:34 AM (ZiYQG)
"Where is our political jujitsu? "
It is largely weak. As responsible adults, we tend to expect one another to also be responsible adults. When they don't, well, that's when we start trying to figure out alternatives, but the clock is already running.
Dems, on the other hand, as back-stabbling children, expect one another to also be back-stabbing children, and thus make sure they've gotten four levels of Survivor-esque alliances and alternatives lined up for whenever the back-stabbing commences.
Put it another way - if Biden really did go unspinnably full-retard in a stump speech somewhere, do you think that there would be a big ordeal about trying to "convince" him to step aside? Fuck no. He'd be gone before the next sun rose. There are Mechanisms in Place. And he knows it, so he limits himself to only the unintentional stupidity.
Now, do you think that there is any sort of alternate contingency plan in place right now for Paul Ryan? Seriously, anything more than maybe a couple notes on a piece of paper somewhere?
Posted by: reason at August 23, 2012 06:35 AM (V40IZ)
Posted by: nickless at August 23, 2012 06:35 AM (Uon6A)
Dave Krepcho, director of the Second Harvest Food Bank, checks inventory at the food bank warehouse in Orlando, Fla. In the past four years, food distribution to 500 pantries, shelters, and other relief agencies in the six-county area has jumped about 60 percent. In the last year alone, that amounted to 36 million pounds of food. Krepcho estimates about 30 percent of those seeking help are first-timers. They're blue-collar and white-collar, many middle class, even some upper middle class. They include college-educated couples and professionals.
Things have gotten worse in the last four years? Let's run on this on pound Barry over the head for the shitty economy.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 23, 2012 06:36 AM (1Jaio)
Meow???
Posted by: Hello Kitty at August 23, 2012 10:31 AM (wtvvX)
How can Hello Kitty meow? She has NO mouth.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 23, 2012 06:36 AM (kDokH)
Gee Huck who blocked Romney for McCain in '08 doesn't have a hatred of Mormons?
Akin who decides he's on a mission for God just happens to blow up the GOP right in time for "Eye on Mormonism"?
I am not on meds but you might want to take some...
BTW welcome to AoS glad you made it from wherever...
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 06:36 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 23, 2012 10:30 AM (Hx5uv)
Well. it didn't exactly say so. I just interpreted it that way, since it was right next to Barry. My apologies if it was supposed to be Jesus next to Chicago Jesus next to Satan.
Posted by: 66chevelle at August 23, 2012 06:36 AM (QjSgY)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 23, 2012 06:36 AM (f9c2L)
# 127
No one has ever lost an election after a legitimate gaffe. If it does happen, it is very rare. The electoral system, it has ways of shutting that kind of thing down.
I just did a google news search for Todd Akin. 8,060,000 results. Then I did a search for Obama's 'OIHO' gaffe. 336 results. And that was using just the word 'OIHO' as a search parameter. Using '+obama +ohio +gaffe' got zero results. Using '+obama +oiho' also got zero results.
Democrats are not going to let this go...every time a dem finds him/her/itself in a room with a reporter, they're going to mention Akin, Romney, and the RNC. The guy is a distraction, and is hurting conservative chances in races outside of MO. He needs to man up, and drop out.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at August 23, 2012 06:37 AM (L7hol)
Posted by: Gerry at August 23, 2012 06:37 AM (aHR5E)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 23, 2012 06:37 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Justamom at August 23, 2012 06:37 AM (Sptt8)
Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! at August 23, 2012 06:37 AM (ZiYQG)
Current odds that we take the Senate, even with Akin in the race: 95.1%
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 23, 2012 06:38 AM (QXlbZ)
Posted by: El Kabong at August 23, 2012 06:38 AM (tBduy)
Have you seen Lautenberg? He looks as tho he has been dead for at least 2 years. He looks like an extra in a vampire movie. He too had been retired.
We need a placeholder with name recognition stat!Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 06:38 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: forest at August 23, 2012 06:38 AM (7RBBe)
Most accurate != totally accurate.
And I don't recall exact what Ras was predicting just before the butt-kickenning, but I don't remember anyone who actually got it right: some were way too optimistic on the side of Republicans, and some were way to optimistic on the side of the Democrats, but I don't think anybody got much closer (in absolute value) than Ras did, either.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 23, 2012 06:38 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Barack Obama - most interesting man in the world at August 23, 2012 06:39 AM (/Mla1)
Posted by: El Kabong at August 23, 2012 06:39 AM (tBduy)
Posted by: cynder ella at August 23, 2012 06:39 AM (oZfic)
Posted by: @PurpAv at August 23, 2012 06:39 AM (1sjSo)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, covering his bases at August 23, 2012 06:39 AM (GBXon)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 23, 2012 06:39 AM (kDokH)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 23, 2012 10:36 AM (f9c2L)
Well, if you're hoping for change in that regard, you're going to be sorely disappointed.
Such a fickle thing, hope.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at August 23, 2012 06:40 AM (LMHSz)
The newsies will run this nonstop to get the muddled morons listening and then have Clennis lie about "well recovery is right around the corner and the whole thing was Bush's fault"....
F**k Huck
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 06:40 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 23, 2012 06:40 AM (TMB3S)
Too many comments to respond directly to
He has to go. Evidence is piling up that he is costing the GOP not only in MO but nationally. Without Akin reporters aren't pestering R/R about abortion
Rasmussen is one of the most accurate pollsters there is. Saying he is a plant of the GOP and this a GOP designed poll to get him out is ridiculous. Saying the PPP poll that was R+9 was designed to keep him in was more accurate
The GOP needed to cut him off - they have completely denounced him and yet the media and Dems are using him to bash the GOP
The GOP needs run someone against him and McCaskill. The poll shows that McCaskill is still beatable with another candidate. Even if the GOP falls short in MO running another candidate it would help isolate this issue to MO and prevent it from spreading (GOP can say hey look we wanted somebody else)
I don't expect him to drop out. He thinks it was just one word in one sentence in one comment that was the problem, not the whole package. And if he doesn't get that McCaskill spent $1.5MM in ads helping him in the GOP primary to ensure he won he is naive
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Posted by: NoBama12 at August 23, 2012 06:41 AM (ykY2u)
Posted by: J-Nap Sapphic SWAT team... at August 23, 2012 06:41 AM (L5yyj)
he IS having an impact dude because he is either the world's biggest douchehammer or a democrat plant.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 06:41 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Gerry at August 23, 2012 06:41 AM (aHR5E)
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I'm not sure that was a gaffe. Isn't O-I-Oh what the Wicked Witch of the West's guards were singing as they marched into her castle? I think it's just the Obama fight song. Next: evil flying monkeys.
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 23, 2012 06:41 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: Todd Akin at August 23, 2012 06:41 AM (gKGI0)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 23, 2012 06:42 AM (05RcU)
Plus, his blood alcohol content must be a constant .20%.
Sorry.
Posted by: Justamom at August 23, 2012 10:34 AM (Sptt
Have you seen Lautenberg? He looks as tho he has been dead for at least 2 years. He looks like an extra in a vampire movie. He too had been retired.
We need a placeholder with name recognition stat! Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 10:38 AM
Barbaric! Barbaric!!!
Posted by: zombie Robert Byrd at August 23, 2012 06:42 AM (bAGA/)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 23, 2012 06:42 AM (kDokH)
Posted by: Professor Harold Hill, Gold Medal Class of '05, Gary Conservatory of Music at August 23, 2012 06:42 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: the pink cracker formerly known as the hobbit Donna at August 23, 2012 06:43 AM (W2Z3C)
EXACTLY without the whitehouse we cannot fix the economy because Obama will ignore the law and inflict damage with regulatory fiat...
and Huckabee does NOT care because he is butthurt he is not the Prom King....
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 06:43 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 23, 2012 06:43 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 23, 2012 10:36 AM
Just goes to show how well Boooosh! planned to take down the country!
New unemployment claims "rose unexpectedly" again as well, according to Bloomberg News.
Couldn't we get off this "Nameless Candidate in MO" shit now? Everyone who is worked up about it has chimed in here at least 42 times, and their positions are well known.
We still face a shitstorm from Bark Obama that will dwarf anything this possible hurricane can do to Tampa. Whingeing about some worthless small-time fuckstick may be fun for those who indulge, but it's Shiny Stuff that takes eyes off the real dangers we face.
Posted by: MrScribbler at August 23, 2012 06:43 AM (wZI4b)
Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! at August 23, 2012 06:43 AM (ZiYQG)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 23, 2012 06:44 AM (kDokH)
Posted by: cynder ella at August 23, 2012 06:44 AM (oZfic)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at August 23, 2012 06:44 AM (ogdab)
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There are many in the Donk base who don't care about economics, don't care about foreign policy, don't care about constitutional liberty but who do care about sexual liberation.
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 23, 2012 06:44 AM (Hx5uv)
Kit Bond is an old, old man too long retired to shift himself eight hours per day.
Plus, his blood alcohol content must be a constant .20%.
Sorry.
Then put Matt Blunt up to it. He beat McCaskill in 2005 for the Governorship of the state and he's got a shit-ton of name recognition due to his own service and that of his dad, Roy.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 23, 2012 06:44 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 23, 2012 10:36 AM (f9c2L)
Careful, someone may insult you like a petulant 12 year old child for living in the real world where abortion is in the single digits percentage wise when it comes to importance for voters.
Posted by: Adam at August 23, 2012 06:44 AM (/YJYi)
There are two realities.
Those who are fully pro-choice and all that that entails.
Those who are fully pro-life and all that that entails.
The GOP is fully pro-life.
The Donks are fully pro-choice.
It would seem the providence has pushed this fight into the spotlight.
Let's have at it and let the chip's fall where they may.
If the election truly hinges on this, then the Republic has already been lost all that is left is to manage the decline. Let the Donks do that I will be heading to the ramparts.
Posted by: General Woundwort at August 23, 2012 06:45 AM (06lNq)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 23, 2012 06:45 AM (VtjlW)
Okay "swords"? I meant words, but words are mightier than the sword and his have certainly cut Our throats...
Posted by: the pink cracker formerly known as the hobbit Donna at August 23, 2012 06:45 AM (W2Z3C)
“President Obama talks a great game on how important Wisconsin is in his race to the White House, yet hasn’t set foot in the Badger State in more than six months,” said Nathan Conrad, Communications Director for the Republican Party of Wisconsin. “Wisconsin has consistently been in play on a national level and the most recent polls have shown Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan with all the momentum. Our goal is for the people of Wisconsin to not forget President Obama and his inability to remember us as he continually flies over for his endless fundraisers.”
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 23, 2012 06:45 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at August 23, 2012 10:33 AM (J6kXj)
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As much as we can appreciate Ryan's appeal from his photos, you have to see him in person to get an idea of his charisma. But he's not just a pretty face (and bod). He's informed, articulate, focussed, and displays all the true marks of a leader without the scariness. His opening remarks had to do with defense cuts, and then went on to the economic platform.
If Team Romney gets him out to critical counties in swing states, I don't think they'll have to worry too much about the women's vote.
Posted by: kallisto at August 23, 2012 06:45 AM (jm/9g)
Posted by: Professor Harold Hill, Gold Medal Class of '05, Gary Conservatory of Music at August 23, 2012 06:46 AM (BAS5M)
"Obama: Team Romney coming on strong, playing dirty, time to 'put them away'..."
"put them away" is mafia type talk...
Posted by: cynder ella at August 23, 2012 10:44 AM (oZfic)
It's the "new tone", baby!
Posted by: Barack Obama - most interesting man in the world at August 23, 2012 06:46 AM (/Mla1)
Even Paul Ryan's black ex-girlfriend won't vote for Mitt Romney...
Is this the type of ticket we can expect to bring our newly post-racial America to the next level?
Posted by: reason at August 23, 2012 10:24 AM (V40IZ)
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Barack Obama's composite ex-girlfriend can't vote for Obama because she's not real. Yeah, that's the ticket to bring our hope and changey-based America back to reality.
Posted by: 66chevelle at August 23, 2012 06:46 AM (QjSgY)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 23, 2012 06:46 AM (kDokH)
Remember: It was a mere four years ago that that turd was open and proud about smearing Mitt over religion. It takes a man of the worst character to use another man's religion for political gain. And Huck couldn't wait to do so.
There is no way that Huck comes out against Akin. Because 1) I think Huck would rather Obama win than a Morman win. He has well proven that his hatred of Mormons exceeds all else (Name one Huckabee criticism of Obama?). 2) He sees this as his play to gain back power. However stupidly, he thinks he can leverage the threat of Akin's Mutually Assured Destruction for concessions from the GOP.
We need to wrap our heads around the fact that there are evangelicals who view Mormans worse than moslums; they hold "Bible studies" about how Mormons aren't Christians, they talk from the pulpit about how Mormons are a cult and on and on. It is a fringe, a small fringe but, they are out there fully convinced only they have God's Truth.
Posted by: RoyalOil at August 23, 2012 06:47 AM (imtbm)
Sooner or later the Republican Party will very seriously regret its attachment at the hip to the so-con political movements. How many more loons are lurking around out there just waiting for the rocks to be turned over and their true selves to be revealed ?
My guess is more than one would care to think.
Here's the thing though. If as many suspect, this stupid, ignorant, man has a clear history of this type of insanity, which is probably why the Dems supported him, why did not SANE Republicans call him out on it before it all blew up in their faces ? Were they content that he was a complete loon as long as it was not noticed ? Did they not see what a danger such a candidate could be ----- Across The Country ?
"This selfish swine, Todd Akin, is going to hurt the Republican party. We're not only going to lose a guaranteed Republican pick-up seat... but it is going to bleed over into other races." --Ann Coulter.
Selfish swine, indeed. The selfish part might be somewhat new, but the swine part is clearly of very long standing. How could this have happened ? In 2012 ?
How ?
Posted by: Dougf at August 23, 2012 06:47 AM (aHnDq)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 23, 2012 06:47 AM (TMB3S)
Posted by: eman at August 23, 2012 06:47 AM (Wp4rQ)
Posted by: cynder ella at August 23, 2012 10:44 AM (oZfic)
It's the "new tone", baby!
Maybe they think it's time to drop the October "surprise" early?
Posted by: the pink cracker formerly known as the hobbit Donna at August 23, 2012 06:47 AM (W2Z3C)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 23, 2012 06:47 AM (kDokH)
The election is November 6th.
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 23, 2012 06:47 AM (P6QsQ)
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It's also sports talk.. don't be so sensitive.. you'll start sounding like a libtard.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 23, 2012 06:48 AM (f9c2L)
Posted by: Y-not at August 23, 2012 06:48 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Y-not at August 23, 2012 06:48 AM (5H6zj)
JackStraw has it. It is the economy, stupids.
So Akin fucked up? Remember:
1. It's a sideshow issue
2. If you are going to replace Akin, you had better have someone who steps in at the 11th hour and can do it, or else you are just cowering before the Liberal Media Narrative.
Jeff Goldstein of Protein Wisdom sums it up:
We witnessed gross anti-intellectualism and the insidious politically correct chilling of speech through an aggressive, Twitter-fueled pique of competitive outrage. It was disgusting to watch frankly — with people actively trying to one-up each other in their purported bother over a minor point on the pro life continuum. The reasons for this I can only speculate upon: a desire to be seen as a “thinking” conservative, set apart from those kind, whose godbothery social conservatism has always made them suspect to the cognoscenti; a cynical opportunism to replace one candidate with a preferred candidate; an ostentatious sanctimony that seems very important to a large portion of the online right.
Whether Akin should have stepped down or not was never my concern. My concern — and my criticism — has always been aimed at the those who placed our Senate chances in Missouri in jeopardy by reacting to a gaffe as they did. And it wasn’t Todd Akin — who did the perfunctory apology tour almost immediately. Or rather, his contribution was minor, and his recovery would have been easy had it not been for the reaction from the right — from online calls for his removal, to press releases sent by GOP officials, and so on. In the end, this is what sunk Missouri for the Republicans: if you are going to publicly call for the removal of a candidate as a show that you, too, are FOR WOMEN!, you’d better first make sure he’s willing to step aside to give you your moment of cheap grace and social posturing.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 23, 2012 06:48 AM (ujg0T)
Posted by: The Chicken at August 23, 2012 06:48 AM (3ZjAP)
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People who are looking at the end game. That's who.
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 23, 2012 06:48 AM (P6QsQ)
Sure. Let me give a shoutout to a professional pollster who went by the name Aurora back in 2004. He taught me an incredible amount about polling.
All polls provide a wide range of sampling. If you are only asking 800 people their opinions, then it is pretty easy to end up getting 600 Democrats in your sample. What most pollsters do is they will use a party ID sample as a screen to determine if they will count the results of that response. They will then drop a random set of responses from the sample and not count them in the results. Sometimes they will also keep polling until they get enough of the proper ID to generate a statistically significant sample.
This is normalization, you want your results to be statistically significant, so you adjust the number based on the factors you consider important. Other common screens to use a likely voter, registered voter, and gender. Sometimes a poll might look for racial makeup as well.
So a normalized poll of 800 likely voters may have samples from 1200 people. But a number of those aren't counted because they need the final result to match a specific model. In Rasmussen's case, he is normalizing based on a secondary poll, which is a really good methodology. In the case of a poll like Pew, with a D+19 sample, you have to wonder what their normalization criteria was. They could say they didn't use one, they just happened to get a D+19 response. But what makes us all suspicious is that they never seem to get an R+12 result.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 23, 2012 06:49 AM (QXlbZ)
Posted by: eman at August 23, 2012 06:49 AM (Wp4rQ)
they will get to embrace the baby butchers because if the CC back Huck's play and we lose I am done with them.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 06:49 AM (LRFds)
Bill Clinton just let loose with a vacuous lie based hail mary on the economy....
The goddamned Media is going to donate over 2 billion dollars worth of ad time to Obama....
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They. Were. Going. To. Do. This. Anyway.
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at August 23, 2012 06:49 AM (YmPwQ)
The election is November 6th.
Posted by: mama winger
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That's cuz in Chicago the motto is "vote early, and vote often"
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 23, 2012 06:49 AM (f9c2L)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 23, 2012 06:50 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: cynder ella at August 23, 2012 06:50 AM (oZfic)
The election is November 6th.
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 23, 2012 10:47 AM (P6QsQ)
Come on gurl, you know the 2nd is when the dead people vote!
Posted by: Mooochelle at August 23, 2012 06:50 AM (/YJYi)
"I see a couple of familiar faces in cheap suits and bad haircuts loitering in front of the building."
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 23, 2012 06:50 AM (kDokH)
the party that defends rapists, choom kings, and whomever come what may is down the hall....
this is not about abortion, or "freedom of speech" this is about a man so weapons' grade stupid he is destroying the party.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 06:51 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Gerry at August 23, 2012 06:51 AM (kycA/)
Posted by: Y-not at August 23, 2012 10:48 AM (5H6zj)
FIFY
Posted by: Tami at August 23, 2012 06:52 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 23, 2012 06:52 AM (VtjlW)
I'm betting that he's going to rationalize that it's a biased poll and keep going. Reality will only break upon him on election night.
I do hope I'm wrong.
Posted by: Lee at August 23, 2012 06:53 AM (RtwOA)
Ok.
But you do realize this is not going to go away.
Reporters are going to start asking Republican candidates all sorts of wonderfully pointed questions to entice "responses" which can be fully exploited by the Donks.
It would be nice if
A) We either fully embrace it and have a GOP widespread brainstorming session.
B) Learn how to deflect or turn around these questions.
Because now every Republican has to formulate a response to being accused of being anti-science and being pro rape. Which is completely unfair but this is where we are.
Posted by: General Woundwort at August 23, 2012 06:54 AM (06lNq)
Posted by: Mr Fever Head at August 23, 2012 06:54 AM (SzAZ7)
Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 06:54 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: cynder ella at August 23, 2012 06:54 AM (oZfic)
Posted by: Y-not at August 23, 2012 06:54 AM (5H6zj)
they are truly getting on my nerves how upbeat and happy they are....and when you throw the national debt, student loan debt, economy in general, back at them ....they smugly say..."you'll see".....ugh
Posted by: cynder ella at August 23, 2012 10:50 AM (oZfic)
Honey bunny......'they' are cats and cats don't vote.
Posted by: Tami at August 23, 2012 06:55 AM (X6akg)
no .shit .sherlock .guess. what? low.information. retard. voter. you. know. barry's. base?
they. are. watching. and. will. now. bray. louder. DUH
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 06:55 AM (LRFds)
the party that defends rapists, choom kings, and whomever come what may is down the hall....
this is not about abortion, or "freedom of speech" this is about a man so weapons' grade stupid he is destroying the party.
In other words, you are dancing to the Liberal Media Tune.
Akin screwed up, apologized, and had it not been for the piling on, that could have been the end of it. Had the posturing members on our side instantly started talking about McCaskill’s abortion position vs that of Akin’s — that is, saying something along the lines of what I offered up yesterday — they would have recovered quickly and the subject dropped by the left.
The truth is, many on the right who keep telling us that this is the most important election ever and we have to win are the same ones whose first instinct is to help neuter conservative candidates.
Sorry, but thatÂ’s just what I see.
I am not anti-abortion, and I am all for replacing Akin if it can be done at the 11th hour. But General Woundwort has it: Let's point out what disgusting Baby killers the Obamunists are with their 9th month and even after birth abortions.
Also, for a pro-life candidate to be talking about abortion in addition to fiscal and economic matters, I addressed it in the post: Akin is pro life and has always run as such; McCaskill helped support a government mandate that requires the Catholic Church, among others, to pay for abortifacients. That creates a stark choice for voters who perhaps like the PresidentÂ’s manipulation of markets but doesnÂ’t like his insinuation into religious issues.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 23, 2012 06:56 AM (ujg0T)
Which means we lost ND, MT, MA, VA, and FL. I'm pretty confident that no one will be looking at MO and calling that the defining moment in the election, if that is the case.
95.1%
Would you rather be on the Dem side looking at less than a 5% chance of holding the Senate?
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 23, 2012 06:57 AM (QXlbZ)
Posted by: J-Nap Sapphic SWAT team... at August 23, 2012 06:57 AM (mWijP)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 23, 2012 06:58 AM (kDokH)
Posted by: Mooochelle at August 23, 2012 10:50 AM (/YJYi)
Chicago Hell Night.
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at August 23, 2012 06:58 AM (PcoXF)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, covering his bases at August 23, 2012 06:58 AM (GBXon)
Careful, someone may insult you like a petulant 12 year old child for living in the real world where abortion is in the single digits percentage wise when it comes to importance for voters.
Posted by: Adam at August 23, 2012 10:44 AM (/YJYi)
Foolishness like this is precisely why the country will continue to swirl the drain, regardless of what masturbatory delusions you cook up about how Mitt Romney's gonna save the economy. This whole charade will repeat itself, and do you know why?
Because, by and large, the people do not care about anything other than their own benefit, and wish to be left to that. That attitude is precisely why, even if the Republicans do take wide-ranging control of the government, there will be no will to effect the truly necessary changes to save the country. The basic problem remains - nobody gives a damn about anything other than themselves. They'll seek to ensure their own well-being with little regard for the well-being or safety of others; sure, someone's going to protest mightily how unfair that charge is, but if you shove your faux righteous indignation aside for a moment, you'll see the truth of it.
"Mountain of infant corpses? Who gives a fuck, there's payroll to consider." You can't understand it, I know, but a nation without justice is doomed to die off. It's gonna happen. It is gonna happen. And since you cannot see the forest for the trees, all you can do is whine about how nobody's paying attention to the primary topic of importance. Blind.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at August 23, 2012 06:58 AM (LMHSz)
Posted by: Lincolntf at August 23, 2012 06:59 AM (HethX)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 23, 2012 07:00 AM (TMB3S)
Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 07:00 AM (Dnbau)
This incident is a good indicator that many on the right have not learned the lesson about controlling the narrative, or at least following their own narrative, rather than buckling under to the narrative created by the left. The "progressive" Commiecrats should feel very proud of themselves. They have the right falling all over themselves to demonstrate their "progressive" credentials.
Yes, Akin fucked up. But it's still the Obamunist Oh-conomy, stupids.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 23, 2012 07:00 AM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 23, 2012 07:00 AM (kDokH)
This is the sooper-sekrit insider idiocy you were peddling in 2010. How'd that work out for you, babbling fuckwit?
Posted by: Waterhouse at August 23, 2012 07:00 AM (xr29d)
Posted by: SFGoth at August 23, 2012 07:01 AM (dZ756)
I don't think they care. Huckabee and his followers are suicide bombers of a nominally Christian faith.
If they can't force you to believe as they do then they'd rather destroy everyone.
Posted by: RoyalOil at August 23, 2012 07:01 AM (imtbm)
Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 07:02 AM (Dnbau)
Ryan handled this yesterday pretty well, "Rape is rape, next question"
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 23, 2012 07:02 AM (QXlbZ)
If I lived in MO I probably would not be able to vote for the guy. I would try to do a write-in. He's as bad as Al Gore, using whackadoodle understandings of scientific studies to justify public policy decisions. Do. Not. Want" Y-not
A well thought out comment. I absolutely do not agree with your position but at least it is intellectually defensible, even if it ignores the social consequences of its implementation. But if you can sell it over the fullness of time, in a campaign of education, so be it. I don't think you can but that's just my opinion. But I can easily see having a civil discussion of the issue with you. I could NEVER sit down with a moron like Akin without wanting to send him a fish wrapped in a newspaper.
Posted by: Dougf at August 23, 2012 07:03 AM (aHnDq)
I am not anti-pro life I am anti retard. Akin is legitimately the most retarded non mentally ill by obvious read GOP candidate I have ever seen. I hate the DNC with every fiber of my being and I would not vote for him.
His "apologies" compounded the problem and were likely a snare to try to drag everyone ten points down with him....
I am not pissed that we are down so little, I am pissed that thanks to huck helping the DNC "oopsie daisy" at a minimum we have this mess.
You do not reward Corky for burning down the diner.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 07:04 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 23, 2012 07:04 AM (QXlbZ)
http://youtu.be/WXeYzCE3h94
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 23, 2012 07:04 AM (kDokH)
# 303
Akin screwed up, apologized, and had it not been for the piling on, that could have been the end of it. Had the posturing members on our side instantly started talking about McCaskill’s abortion position vs that of Akin’s — that is, saying something along the lines of what I offered up yesterday — they would have recovered quickly and the subject dropped by the left.
The left is not dropping it, nor will they.
Google news search 'todd akin', more than eight million hits.
Google news search 'kerry gauthier', less than 8 thousand hits.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at August 23, 2012 07:05 AM (L7hol)
I'm all in for a War on Women. I think I'll start with curious and crash her fuckin jaw. Think about the benefits of winning this war:
- They don't get to vote. Or drive.
- Sammiches on demand.
- Not allowed within 35 feet of devices broadcasting football games except for sammich delivery.
The possibilities are endless and most chicks aren't very tough. We should do this thing.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 23, 2012 07:05 AM (nxyLn)
The election is November 6th.
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 23, 2012 10:47 AM (P6QsQ)
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She was sending out a code. The date for stuffing boxes of ballots in car trunks is November 2nd. All cars must be loaded and ready to depart the Chicago marshalling yard by 7:00 AM on the 3rd and in situ awaiting discovery as needed by 8:00 PM on the 4th.
Posted by: 66chevelle at August 23, 2012 07:05 AM (QjSgY)
Posted by: oZfic at August 23, 2012 07:05 AM (pUOs2)
yes and I highlighted why contra to Ace I thought that was the right way...
the media is reporting it as "avoiding the question" and running Mitt's picture next to Akin's positions and words....
that is not an "oopsie daisy" either....
I think we saved ourselves from the Nestea plunge by flaming the hell out of him, but I am also certain this whole mess was needless and could have been prevented by destroying Huck between '08 and now
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 07:06 AM (LRFds)
"NEWS FLASH: I just ate a booger."
There you go with the misinformation tactics again, rethugz!
I didn't eat it. I just breathed in really hard and it wound up shooting out of my sinus and down my throat.
Posted by: Gerrie at August 23, 2012 07:06 AM (5npD/)
Posted by: Y-not at August 23, 2012 07:07 AM (5H6zj)
That made my morning, in the midst of this Akin lamenting. I do likes me some kitties.
Thanks.
Posted by: Dougf at August 23, 2012 07:07 AM (aHnDq)
- They don't get to vote. Or drive.
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Wisconsin Lutheran Synod is a step ahead of you. Women can't vote (in church matters). They can still drive though. How else will the sammiches get to the church for potluck?
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 23, 2012 07:08 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Todd Akin, Knight of Nicht at August 23, 2012 07:08 AM (qwK3S)
Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! at August 23, 2012 07:08 AM (ZiYQG)
I am inclined to agree with that portion of the CC.
They screw us and lead us down the path to hard socialism that will take a war to undo quickly I am done with 'em, matter of fact even if we win it all I am probably done with 'em....I'd rather pay the bribes to the Union boys to get them back and split the donks by running against the EPA than have the holy martyr brigade in my FOB's AO.....
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 07:09 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, covering his bases at August 23, 2012 07:09 AM (GBXon)
Don't even waste any time with trying to go the legal route to get him off the ballot. The leftists on the panel will just stonewall.
Write in Ann Wagner. And let's go up with some superPac money and get Romney to appear with her. This is so infuriating. Let's hand it Tommy Thompson for picking up the slack! That's a pickup. And Heller and Brown are closing the door, so it's not armagedeon. But let's not forsake MO, Write in Ann Wagner.
Posted by: Schnack at August 23, 2012 07:10 AM (iHqLy)
Posted by: cynder ella at August 23, 2012 07:10 AM (oZfic)
Posted by: Akin will be out in a at August 23, 2012 07:11 AM (mWijP)
Posted by: Spike at August 23, 2012 07:11 AM (I4NNt)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, covering his bases at August 23, 2012 07:11 AM (GBXon)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 23, 2012 07:11 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! at August 23, 2012 07:12 AM (ZiYQG)
Personally, I think Akin is a Godsend. He brought the issue out early, and let Romney kill it hard. The ads about "Romney being against abortion even in the case of rape" were ALREADY running in Florida, months before Akin.
The Dems are going to overplay this, because it is all they have and they really do believe they hold the majority opinion on murdering babies.
See Memorial, Wellstone.
This affects only the MO SEN race, which frankly became a problem when Akin won the primary. The MO voters didn't know he is a total fucking idiot. It has minimal effect on Romney or the rest of the Senate races.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 23, 2012 07:12 AM (QXlbZ)
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 23, 2012 07:12 AM (P6QsQ)
I am serious if the Donks win and the CC tries to powerplay the GOP into the GOD! party based on the nuclear detonation Akin is risking I say we buy off the unions....
people forget we had the unions until Clinton a bigger portion anyway.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 07:14 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 07:14 AM (Dnbau)
"How many days until our convention? Reince and Mitt need to take care of this problem before the convention."
Reince and Mitt pick Akin up at the airport in Tampa.
Akin: "Hey guys! How ya doing? I'm really excited to go to the convention today! Let's go! *sticks his head out of the open window and lets his tongue loll out as they pull away*
*Mitt and Reince remain silent as Reince drives out of the city, smiling softly, sympathetically*
Akin: "Hey guys! I didn't know we moved the convention out here! It's really pretty out here, this is a great place for the convention!"
Mitt: "Here's good." *Reince pulls to the side of the empty two-lane country road*
Mitt: "Hey Akin! You're a good boy, Akin! Let's get out and play!"
*Mitt throws a frisbee. Akin retrieves it and brings it back. Mitt throws it further. Akin finds it and brings it back*
Akin: "This is a great convention, guys! I love this convention!"
*Mitt throws the frisbee really far and off to one side. It lands in an overgrown drainage culvert, deep in the tall grass. Akin spends several minutes finding the frisbee, digging it out, and then bounds back to where the car used to be parked on the side of the now completely-empty road. He pants softly, looking one way and then the other, his tail wags slowly, expectantly...*
Posted by: Gerrie at August 23, 2012 07:15 AM (CGjum)
Posted by: Spike at August 23, 2012 07:15 AM (I4NNt)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, covering his bases at August 23, 2012 07:15 AM (GBXon)
He will cost us multiple Senate seats.
Posted by: Spike
Disagree. The damage will be contained. The response was swift and harsh. Scott Brown is crushing Warren in post-Akin polling. Don't be defeatist. We will wash our hands of Akin, and we will Murkowski him and Air Claire.
Posted by: Schnack at August 23, 2012 07:15 AM (iHqLy)
No.
Current probability that we will take the Senate, including Akin staying the race is 95.1%
Funny how stubborn math can be. It just refuses to bend to a narrative.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 23, 2012 07:15 AM (QXlbZ)
I had put the anxiety away Dave but he chewed up 3 points of Generic Congressional approval, and 2 points in the Presidential at Ras....
all of this was unneeded we should have Old Yellered Huckadoodle in '09
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 07:15 AM (LRFds)
The left is not dropping it, nor will they.
Of course not. The Left never drops their pet causes. But Brother Cavil at #336 has it. Let the Left continue with the phony "war on womyn" while *real* women watch their household finances contract.
The Left has been trying this shit ever since 6 months ago when George Snivelopolus brought up a stupid question seemingly out of nowhere about contraception to Mitt Romney at a presidential candidate debate. The Left has been planning this meme for months if not years.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 23, 2012 07:16 AM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 23, 2012 07:17 AM (QXlbZ)
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Hi. My name's Disaster. Nice to meet you.
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 23, 2012 07:18 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Spike at August 23, 2012 07:18 AM (I4NNt)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 23, 2012 07:19 AM (TMB3S)
Highlight the mechanical aspects of partial birth abortions. If the media wants to talk abortion, IMMEDIATELY start talking about skull puncturing and vacuum sucking of brains. Don't talk "murder", forget moral arguments, etc. The mildly pro-abortion crowd has a natural immunity against those arguments.
Keep the discussion mechanical and focused on the cringe factor of SUCKING BRAINS OUT THROUGH A TUBE.
The media will switch topics very quickly because that shit is straight up nasty and brutal and tough to sell to the 90% of the public that's not rabid single issue pro-abortion.
Posted by: @PurpAv at August 23, 2012 07:20 AM (1sjSo)
Posted by: cynder ella at August 23, 2012 07:20 AM (oZfic)
Women aren't stupid as a block, but they are wooable.
Even charming Bill Clinton isn't enough to offset the dreariness of a stream of whining women. They've taken the temperature of the electorate using a rectal thermometer stuck up their own ass.
Posted by: 56 and loving RR at August 23, 2012 07:20 AM (e9kQC)
No he didn't. Get a grip.
Generic congressional shifts all the time, and had nothing to do with this. The odds that we will lose the House are 0%. The odds we will take the Senate are 95.1%, down from 98.6%. Romney is exactly where he was in Rasmussen before all of this hit. One week ago Rasmussen was showing Obama +2, today it is even.
Think long term, whatever affect this had will be long gone in November. We aren't voting tomorrow.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 23, 2012 07:22 AM (QXlbZ)
Posted by: cynder ella at August 23, 2012 11:20 AM (oZfic)
Wait.....I thought you were a day ahead of everyone else here....and you're asking us for something Huckabee said in....2008?!
Posted by: Tami at August 23, 2012 07:22 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, covering his bases at August 23, 2012 07:23 AM (GBXon)
Posted by: Scobface at August 23, 2012 07:25 AM (IoNBC)
Posted by: Juanita Broaddrick at August 23, 2012 07:26 AM (SzAZ7)
Posted by: cynder ella at August 23, 2012 07:26 AM (oZfic)
Hey Dave it's me I don't see losing the house as real, I am using the GC% as an indicator of what turnout models to use though bud....
that is while not precise not a bad rule of thumb.
The problem is the compression of crap the Media and the donks will be throwing at an energized base....
Bill Clinton *may* represent enough of a "hey look a squirrel!" to the retard base that they get less glum about going to vote instead of getting stoned...
I have faith in our ABO voters, but the longer Akin shows his ass the more likely we have a civil war in the CC/FiCon ranks in our party and to tell you the truth if the CC types REALLY make the argument "we owe it to Akin" I am gonna side with the FiCons.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 07:27 AM (LRFds)
(JACKSTRAW)It's now Thursday and we are still talking about this shit. Do you think this is winning us any votes?
Exactly, Jack! Rather than acknowledging it was a gaffe and moving on, we have people on our side who think they can make the liberal media like them by posturing and baying for Akin's blood, rather than quietly working behind the scenes (if something can be done at this 11th hour), and then making the best of it when they realize there is not.
I'm not surprised Akin decided to get pigheaded and hang in there. I mean, having your own side — from the Presidential candidate on down — calling for you to step aside, surrender your career, and take one for the team who just helped fuck you, that tends to piss a guy off.
We social cons really should learn to listen to our betters and not get so uppity!
Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 23, 2012 07:28 AM (ujg0T)
Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 07:28 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: cynder ella at August 23, 2012 11:26 AM (oZfic)
Not like it's tough to find. Huckster apologized for it.
Posted by: NewEnglandDevil at August 23, 2012 07:28 AM (73P68)
If you can't go back and look at Mitt's shit from late Campaign for Nomination '08 I am not doing your homework....it is soft bigotry but bigotry.
http://tinyurl.com/957kx4s
I cannot be bothered with a "Christian" who is angered by Mormonism, but gives Jerry Wright and Islam a shrug
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 07:30 AM (LRFds)
Yeah I must have missed our purging the SoCons like the Donks have the BlueDogs....
he is a retard, end of story....
I am not a Ron Paul guy either same reason a retard who hurts the party
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 07:31 AM (LRFds)
302 283 DS,
no .shit .sherlock .guess. what? low.information. retard. voter. you. know. barry's. base?
they. are. watching. and. will. now. bray. louder. DUH
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If the "low information retard voter" is Barry's base...and I agree that they are...they were gonna vote for him anyway. Aikin doesn't matter in that regard. As for braying louder, they have already dialed it up to 11, 24/7.
The way you worded your post, looks like you were tryuing to say that Aikin is motivating Dems to act like Dems. Which they are. Bill Clinton was gonna lie and bray about the economy anyway. The media is/was gonna donate 2 billion dollars of free advertising for Obama, anyway. No shit, Sherlock,.
Not gonna say that this doesn't hurt the GOP at all. I wish the guy would leave, too. But I'm betting that the Dems will overplay their hand as usual, and that the "no information voters" who ain't paying attention now will have better things to worry about when they decide on Nov 6. Or 2nd, if you listen to Moochelle.
Posted by: The guy who says Mike Castle! at August 23, 2012 07:32 AM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 07:32 AM (Dnbau)
I'm seriously beginning to straight-up think that he's a Dem plant. He's done more harm to the pro-life cause than 40 years of pro-abortion media propaganda.
Posted by: Book at August 23, 2012 07:32 AM (oxqtW)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 23, 2012 07:33 AM (TMB3S)
Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 07:33 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Kirk at August 23, 2012 07:34 AM (Ligdw)
Posted by: 56 and loving RR at August 23, 2012 11:20 AM (e9kQC)
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I agree. In a weird, "providential" way...dimbulb Akin may have done our side a favor.
Come election day, this won't even be on anyone's radar. So many international hotspots: the Middle East, China getting aggressive with its neighbors... by November the American electorate may be much more invested in saving their own asses rather than worrying about womanhood's collective vajayjay.
Posted by: kallisto at August 23, 2012 07:35 AM (jm/9g)
It will not shock me in the least if at a minimum Huck, and possibly Akin are both Donk shills and it comes out in the next decade.
There is a coordinated effort to split the Protestant churches on secular lines going on and even the CC is floating AGW worship as a valid GOP position...."we can help through carbon credits"....
best case scenario is "compassionate conservatives" want a new cookie har, worst case is they really believe the Gaia cult's bullshite and are a sign the end is coming
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 07:35 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: cynder ella at August 23, 2012 07:35 AM (oZfic)
We were thinking we liked Brunner or Steelman, but Claire ran unopposed, so a bunch of Dems in St. Louis and Kansas City went and voted in the Republican Primary, to pick the worst possible challenger.
Posted by: KSB at August 23, 2012 07:35 AM (kUYEl)
"we have people on our side who think they can make the liberal media like them" Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 23, 2012 11:28 AM (ujg0T)
You do realize that this is August, 2012, right? The braying would be for the media if it were 2011, or even May, 2012. We are now in "voters are beginning to make up their minds" territory. We are not trying to convince the media. We are trying to convince the soft-squishy, completely unprincipled voter.
Meanwhile, Akin grabs ahold of the (R) party while failing to notice the concrete anchor he attached to himself through his own stupidity.
At least you acknowledge that he is only in it for himself, and that it has nothing to do with a stand on principle, since we both know that he is hurting his professed cause, as well as general fiscal sanity.
Posted by: NewEnglandDevil at August 23, 2012 07:36 AM (73P68)
Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 07:38 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: cynder ella at August 23, 2012 07:39 AM (oZfic)
Posted by: John Edwards at August 23, 2012 07:39 AM (SzAZ7)
they will try to spin it as "we should have made OUR pov the center of the platform and recruited Huck!" unless I miss my guess....
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 07:39 AM (LRFds)
"if he stays, and we lose, what will the gain be for so cons?"
Easy! Increased federal funding for abort.... wait, wha?
Posted by: NewEnglandDevil at August 23, 2012 07:40 AM (73P68)
I think we can agree on this part. Hucksterbee Delenda est!
Posted by: Brother Cavil, covering his bases at August 23, 2012 11:11 AM (GBXon)
^This
Fuck Akin we already did a full court press letting the country know the party and everyone that matters wants him out. This is not Obama's ameikkka yet where you can force people to do what you say. Just keep hitting that when asked and quickly move on.
And Fuck Fuckabee. that fat meddlesome bumbling piece of shit and his crappy tv show and even crappier radio show and his craptastic fat family and animal torturing kids need to go.
And that's all i got. Let this fool and his fool eneabler keep making bigger fools of themselves.
Just be ready with the back up plan on who you are running if he drops out. Althought him dropping out even if he is -40 to claiire mcfatasskill isnt likely.
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at August 23, 2012 07:42 AM (ovpNn)
Posted by: richard mcenroe at August 23, 2012 07:42 AM (qvify)
"Partisan ID normalization."
Polling firms can justify just about any partisan ID combination they want. They can simply apply the last presidential election breakdown, use combinations of historical data and current registrations or just make shit up and work backwards to make the math semi-believable.
Sometimes, people will give the other side favorable numbers because of the way other pollsters slide from adults to registered to likely as the election nears. If they start with a bias towards dems, as the other pollsters switch to more accurate model they can reinforce the preference cascade by adjusting their numbers more toward reality.
Posted by: jwest at August 23, 2012 07:44 AM (ZDsRL)
(sven) "they will try to spin it as "we should have made OUR pov the center of the platform and recruited Huck!" unless I miss my guess...."
Now who is saying this? Huck isn't running. And frankly, he has been backpedaling from his 2008 fuckup gaffe--publicly--ever since then, you can watch his Fox News show as living proof.
Akin fucked up, we all know this. But (1) the issue is still a sideshow, and (2) the attempts of some of you to make the liberal media like you won't work and they never have.
If the Commiecrats want to die on the abortion hill, then let's go partial birth and after birth on them. Meanwhile, Obama is still a SCOAMF, and Claire McCaskill is an Obamunist stooge
Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 23, 2012 07:45 AM (ujg0T)
Hold the presses, but the newpaper of record says Akin can still win.
"Victory for Akin Seen as Difficult, but Still Possible" NYT H/T Hotgass
Is a Moron is punching at the NYT punching up or down?
Posted by: BidenloidTheHappy at August 23, 2012 07:45 AM (0udxW)
Posted by: David C. at August 23, 2012 07:47 AM (ZtMso)
Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 07:47 AM (Dnbau)
Exactly, Y-Not. I am having trouble seeing his high morals here."
I'm seeing another Murkowski is what I'm seeing.
Posted by: richard mcenroe at August 23, 2012 07:47 AM (qvify)
How many Democrats do you think would say they could never support McCaskill if she had said the same thing?
Obviously it's not quite the same thing since the MSM would have made sure that hardly anyone heard about it, but it still says something about the morals of the two parties.
BTW - If it meant the difference between winning or losing the Senate I would still vote for the idiot. The other 50 Republican senators would more than drown him out, which is far better than letting Harry "Wizard of the KKK" Reid stay in control.
Posted by: Norcross at August 23, 2012 07:50 AM (4EA5K)
You go on ahead and mosey over to hotair and see the Church groups lining up behind Captain Error.....
Huckafuck is relying on the Christians closing ranks behind Akin and enough will they'll raise hell win or lose.
This is a retarded attempt by Huckabuck to Xanatos gambit the GOP FiCon wing....
and ME giving two shits about the newsies liking me?
Yeah I can tell you're around a lot then dude.
I want to start having the GOP break necks and jaws of the newsies....
you got the wrong cowboy there pardner....I just understand the reality of the battlescape.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 07:51 AM (LRFds)
The NYT is always there with Conservatism and Pro-choice prospects earnestly hoped for and argued for....
*sigh*
al-NYT why won't you like *my* picks?
Oh that's right they kick socialist ass unlike the Akin wing
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 07:52 AM (LRFds)
Amazing how there are so many Republicans who say they could never support Akin.
Posted by: Norcross at August 23, 2012 11:50 AM (4EA5K)
Amazing how many Republicans actually want to win the Senate.
Posted by: Schnack at August 23, 2012 07:53 AM (rrpa4)
sven dear: do you have anyone at this 11th hour who can step in and win, given MO election rules? I didn't think so. If you "understand the reality of the battlescape", then understand *that*.
If you really "understand the reality of the battlescape", then realize this is a sideshow, that McCaskill is a SCOAMF stooge, and that you shouldn't give up, even after an admittedly dumbass mistake.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 23, 2012 07:55 AM (ujg0T)
Darling, I could give a shit about the MO Senate seat. Banging your heels together muttering there is no place like home does not change the media jihad on the GOP using Fuckstick's retardese Vagina monologues as a club bless both your hearts. He should have left, and in trying to hang on is either a defacto or dejure Dem operative.
Cut his ass off and someone should cauterize his vocal chords.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 07:59 AM (LRFds)
Mr. Akin, Do you believe that abortion should be outlawed, even in cases of rape or incest?
"On the issue of abortion, I'd simply like to contrast my position with that of President Obama, who believes that a baby, out of the womb and breathing, should be left to die if that is the will of the mother. I stand against infanticide!"
Is that really so hard?
Posted by: NewEnglandDevil at August 23, 2012 08:03 AM (73P68)
Posted by: Y-not at August 23, 2012 08:03 AM (5H6zj)
he will not go for it, it was already on the table and that bit of gymnastics requires MO donk court approval....that is why I think Akin is a knowing or patsy stooge for Huck....
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 08:05 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Y-not at August 23, 2012 08:07 AM (5H6zj)
I wish we knew for sure. I would go after Huck with everything I had, including demanding Ailes cancel his contract.
By the way, Huck's home is in Florida now. He built a big mansion down there.
Posted by: Miss Marple at August 23, 2012 08:09 AM (GoIUi)
(sven) Darling, I could give a shit about the MO Senate seat.
And there you have it. What you care about is posturing. Never mind that we can't move someone into position this late in the game, never mind that this issue is still a SIDESHOW, never mind that if they really want to go full on abortion, then let's talk about partial birth and even retroactive.
Some of us don't want to give up the field, even after a serious fumble. You apparently do. And again, to use the football analogy, I'd be more than happy to move in another QB and send Akin to the showers--if we could get one up to speed this late.
Some on the right have a constant need to distance themselves from part of their base and even their party platform — and to do so very publicly and ostentatiously and with an increasing propensity to brook no dissent on matters that have been socially settled in their circles, where they need to make the media like them. It’s either sanctimony or intellectual hubris that drives it, but it’s there.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 23, 2012 08:09 AM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Rob at August 23, 2012 08:10 AM (v0FG1)
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 08:11 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: typical commenter at August 23, 2012 08:11 AM (kycA/)
Posted by: Y-not at August 23, 2012 08:11 AM (5H6zj)
Funny how stubborn math you can be. It just refuses to bend ....
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 23, 2012 11:15 AM (QXlbZ)
Fixed that for you.
Todd Akin is a liability and there is a 95% probability that he will say something stupid and hurt again. Any idiot can cast a vote the right way in the Senate, there's nothing that special about this guy that you should risk one percentage point for him.
Posted by: Billy Quizboy at August 23, 2012 08:12 AM (FEzSe)
Posted by: AD at August 23, 2012 08:14 AM (78B0w)
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 08:15 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Y-not at August 23, 2012 08:15 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone rapscallion at August 23, 2012 08:17 AM (I2LwF)
absolutely....
I am not, nor is the GOP under any obligation to aid a vain retard who decided God called him up and said, "be a tool for Obama Todd I'll cast all the votes needed bud hang in there".....
that type of ego ends up with dead people and the 6'o clock news blaming the GOP and such.
Don't worry though concern trolls I am almost certain his ego will prevent the Philpot solution
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 08:20 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: cynder ella at August 23, 2012 08:20 AM (oZfic)
Yes, yes you are.....if you're thrilled with a kid who thinks the 3 branches of government are for hanging a swing on.....thank a teacher.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 08:27 AM (LRFds)
(Y-NOT)Ann Wagner:
http://chesterfield.patch.com/articles/will-ann-wagner-take-akins-spot-on-the-ballot
It's actually the smartest solution, b/c it allows Akin to save face by running for re-election in his Congressional district. So the Party could offer to help him do that, while greatly reducing the damage of his continued candidacy for Senate.
I have seen three different replacement names tossed out on this thread already. If overwhelming consensus on a good replacement, AND getting that replacement up to speed, can be done at this 11th hour, great, but I fear it can't.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 23, 2012 08:29 AM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Kirk at August 23, 2012 11:34 AM __________________ Do they have to be f*cking retarded as well, or is that point negotiable?
Posted by: buzz at August 23, 2012 08:33 AM (i27M5)
ah got it....well screw it what we should have done all along is throw all our resources behind Sentaor Ed special dude from MO?
This is not the "11th hour"....
wonderboy has not even been the nominee a month before he decided to go suicide bomber
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 08:34 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Peregrine Took, Hobbit S.O.B. at August 23, 2012 08:36 AM (e63u/)
Posted by: BidenloidTheHappy at August 23, 2012 08:38 AM (0udxW)
Posted by: Spike at August 23, 2012 08:39 AM (I4NNt)
The problem with switching him and Wagner is that we don't need him in Congress, PERIOD. He's more like NARAL's caricature of a pro-lifer, rather than an actual pro-lifer. No one will ever want to co-sponsor anything with him, ever. He's 65 years old. Time to sit back, smell the roses, and most importantly shut your pie hole.
Wagner will be just as conservative as him, at least on any issue that has any chance of passing or even coming to a vote. She'll also be a heck of a lot more effective. Same goes for anyone who replaces him on the ballot for Senate (first and foremost, they will have an efficetiveness edge over Akin by virtue of actually getting elected.)
Posted by: buzz at August 23, 2012 08:40 AM (i27M5)
Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 08:41 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Schnack at August 23, 2012 08:44 AM (SHqN1)
It is because to them the point of politics is emotional and spiritual validation, "LOOK I AM GODLY!" Politics should be about the art of the possible, and the possible was that Akin's damage could have been neutered quickly had he just quit. Instead he got his Jihad on.
If they think they are going to get their way from the aftermath of this they are dumber than Akin.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 08:45 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Avi at August 23, 2012 08:46 AM (Gx3Fe)
Tune in to the Mike Huckadoodle show where huck plays the guitar and explains to Todd on air that Rasmussen is part of the media machine Todd keep going buddy you said you were sorry!
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 08:49 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Deb at August 23, 2012 09:06 AM (eaUNb)
That's right Deb we should have had faith that Chuck Todd and firends would buckle down, say in a manly way "apology accepted Todd" and get back to reporting on the war, the economy, and Obama's lies.....
um "no"....the guy is too stupid to trust with any power.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 09:09 AM (LRFds)
Considering they're overreacting on this issue as much if not more than democrats, they need the finger given to them.
Posted by: Earl at August 23, 2012 09:24 AM (a3d3c)
Ooh, you stick it to TEH ESTVBLISHMENT, you fighter you!
Posted by: Anony at August 23, 2012 10:37 AM (qiXMt)
Posted by: steevy at August 23, 2012 02:13 PM (6o4Fb)
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Posted by: Gmac at August 23, 2012 05:44 AM (IanLz)