August 25, 2012
— DrewM Godspeed, sir.

Armstrong's family released a statement which concludes...
“For those who may ask what they can do to honor Neil, we have a simple request. Honor his example of service, accomplishment and modesty, and the next time you walk outside on a clear night and see the moon smiling down at you, think of Neil Armstrong and give him a wink.”
People are calling for a state funeral. I agree with a sentiment but Armstrong was such a private and modest man, I'm not sure how that would fit with his wishes.
Below, what are probably the most famous images and words in human history.
A couple of other thoughts from my Twitter rant about the great Neil Armstrong:
There were a number of reasons Neil Armstrong was selected to be the first man on the Moon. Not least among them is he was a hell of a stick
The Gemini 8 mission was built to test whether we could dock space ships in orbit. If you can't do that, you can't go to the Moon....
Armstrong was commander of Gemini 8 and may have saved the Apollo program (or at least years of work).
The spin rate (you can see a bit of it at end of this vid)
was insane.
In short Neil Armstrong was the perfect package...a civilian (he was a Navy combat pilot in Korea but had left the service and the powers that be wanted a civilian to be the first on the moon), brilliant engineer, great pilot and a man who carried his fame with humility.
Oh one last bit on Armstrong's genius...Apollo 11 almost ran out of fuel. He put the Eagle down on fumes. Yeah.
So they go 200K plus miles, get to the Moon and find out the target landing spot is unsuitable. Armstrong finds an alternate and nails it. Yeah.
No one, least of Armstrong, would say the Apollo program was a one man show. But at several key moments, its success or failure was on him
At each of those moments he delivered. He then spent 40+ years not tarnishing that legacy. What a loss but we were blessed to have had him
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Posted by: PaulRyansHair at August 25, 2012 12:00 PM (S7DCS)
Hell of a pilot, hell of a man.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 25, 2012 12:00 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: eman at August 25, 2012 12:00 PM (Wp4rQ)
Posted by: logprof at August 25, 2012 12:01 PM (evN68)
Meantime, we spend an Apollo program's worth of money every week to buy greedy geezer vote for Democrats.
How small we've become.
Posted by: targfood at August 25, 2012 12:01 PM (5spDI)
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Posted by: tmi3rd at August 25, 2012 12:09 PM (cxomr)
Posted by: tmi3rd at August 25, 2012 12:10 PM (cxomr)
Flying fighters over Korea and bringing one badly damaged plane back.
Member of Project Dyna-Soar.
Civilian test pilot for NASA.
Surviving the LM flying bed spring simulator.
Gemini 8 when the thrusters went insane.
And finally that big leap for Mankind on July 20, 1969 with Buzz Aldrin.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 25, 2012 12:10 PM (zMgpj)
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Posted by: buzzion at August 25, 2012 12:12 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone doofus at August 25, 2012 12:12 PM (Rtb4/)
Posted by: eman at August 25, 2012 12:13 PM (Wp4rQ)
Posted by: Hanoverfist at August 25, 2012 12:14 PM (HiKk0)
Posted by: thunderb at August 25, 2012 12:14 PM (Dnbau)
And I ripped it apart and chopped up the pages and made a really lame bulletin board instead of hoarding it and saying I'd lost it.
I've felt guilty about that ever since I reached adulthood. I know it's not quite the Buddhas of Bamiyan, but the school would have been better off with the magazine intact, to inspire another generation kids.
Guilty.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 25, 2012 12:14 PM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: ErikW at August 25, 2012 12:16 PM (fk5cT)
What a great man he was. A quiet hero who was pure class and courage. This is terribly sad. Rest in Peace sir.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at August 25, 2012 12:17 PM (mbZjs)
Posted by: eman at August 25, 2012 12:17 PM (Wp4rQ)
Man had balls of steel on the Gemini 8 mission.
The capsule goes into a one revolution per second roll, which is brutal, and he still pulls it out and sticks the re-entry.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 25, 2012 12:18 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Infidel at August 25, 2012 12:18 PM (g7aoF)
@ Buzzion, I've been there too, it's a cool little museum.
Something about Ohio boys and flight.
Posted by: ErikW at August 25, 2012 04:16 PM (fk5cT)
Just wait a bit! You'll see.
Posted by: Riverside, Iowa March 22, 2228 at August 25, 2012 12:18 PM (BAS5M)
Posted by: eman at August 25, 2012 12:19 PM (Wp4rQ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 25, 2012 12:19 PM (FCe/P)
Posted by: Neil Armstrong at Tranquiity at August 25, 2012 12:19 PM (z9HTb)
Something about Ohio boys and flight.
Posted by: ErikW at August 25, 2012 04:16 PM (fk5cT)
I hope that line for him used in HBO's "From the Earth to the Moon" was actually said by him. When asked if he would vote for fellow Ohioan Astronaut John Glenn if he ran for president, the response was "That depends. Who's running for king?"
Posted by: buzzion at August 25, 2012 12:19 PM (GULKT)
Funny thing: When I refreshed the page and saw the announcement, Pandora had just started playing the end song from the movie {i}Gladiator, "Now We Are Free." Very appropriate for the death of a hero, I thought.
Posted by: Grey Fox at August 25, 2012 12:21 PM (W79Mp)
Posted by: Neil Armstrong at Tranquiity at August 25, 2012 04:19 PM (z9HTb)
I remember that story. Very funny.
Goodbye, my childhood hero.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 25, 2012 12:21 PM (BAS5M)
Posted by: booger at August 25, 2012 12:21 PM (HI6wa)
I'm sorry that Neil Armstrong had to witness our space program deteriorate to the point where Americans have to hitchhike into space. Pathetic.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at August 25, 2012 12:21 PM (UhXp9)
It's ok, we are SUPPOSED to be inspiring them with more than a maniac demanding to be the national pie cutter.
Statement from the Armstrong family: "Next time you see the moon smiling down at you from the sky, give Neil a wink."
Posted by: sven10077 at August 25, 2012 12:22 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Infidel at August 25, 2012 12:23 PM (g7aoF)
Posted by: alf767 at August 25, 2012 12:24 PM (7aiAz)
/ducks
Posted by: Alex at August 25, 2012 12:24 PM (/nZEe)
Posted by: eman at August 25, 2012 12:24 PM (Wp4rQ)
BTW - just stumbled across this. The Goddard Space Flight Center Islamic Study Group has their site hosted on an official NASA server:
islamic.gsfc.nasa.gov
What is the purpose of the Islamic Study Group?
To provide a medium by which members can share, promote, and disseminate Islamic knowledge. This sponsoring organization will arrange social events and lectures to increase Islamic awareness and understanding within the membership and in the general Goddard community.
Uh -- do Christian employees get the same hosting rights or is this another one of those things?
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 25, 2012 12:25 PM (kdS6q)
Nah, no need to feel guilty, they can just get another copy - http://tinyurl.com/9yo9ncr
Posted by: booger at August 25, 2012 12:25 PM (HI6wa)
Posted by: thunderb at August 25, 2012 12:26 PM (Dnbau)
I was young when it happened, and when my daughter was about that age we went out for a walk, and I happened to look up at the Moon. "You know, when I was your age, some guys climbed into a rocket ship, flew to that there Moon, walked around for a while, and then came back to Earth."
She gave me one of those, "Yeah, sure, Dad, whatever you say" looks.
At which point I surprised to find myself having to admit something that I had taken for granted almost my entire life: "Come to think of it, that really WAS pretty unbelievable. But - seriously - that really DID happen."
I guess thay hadn't covered that little episode in school yet.
Posted by: Optimizer at August 25, 2012 12:26 PM (As94z)
Well, except for the future US Army Orbital drop troops.
...
What? A man can dream.
Posted by: Alex at August 25, 2012 12:26 PM (/nZEe)
Posted by: ErikW at August 25, 2012 12:27 PM (fk5cT)
Posted by: eman at August 25, 2012 12:27 PM (Wp4rQ)
Posted by: Nukie at August 25, 2012 12:27 PM (AzwZn)
He was such a private man that I'm sure his will forbids same. While a state funeral would be fitting I'd much rather honor his last wishes.
I was 5 when Apollo 11 landed and my parents dragged me out of bed both for the landing itself and the first moonwalk. As a kid at that time I'd have had it no other way. My bedroom was a shrine to Apollo, with books, posters, Saturn V models, all of the stuff the best geek kids had back then.
Posted by: Captain Ned at August 25, 2012 12:28 PM (t7XIX)
They couldn't set up on blogger or wordpress? That should pretty much take care of it.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 25, 2012 12:28 PM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: Things Only 12 Men Can Say at August 25, 2012 12:28 PM (UkKAO)
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 25, 2012 12:28 PM (BAS5M)
I assure you there's not a dry eye over 30 in Ohio. Ohio taught the world how to fly, and made sure the moon was safe. Thanks to America for making that possible and helping so many of Ohio's sons and daughters touch their dreams.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 25, 2012 12:28 PM (LRFds)
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Posted by: mallfly at August 25, 2012 12:30 PM (bJm7W)
It seems too much like bragging, far more important to learn about the ancient Egyptians.
America, together anything is possible.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 25, 2012 12:31 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 - Feel the burn! at August 25, 2012 12:31 PM (Gk3SS)
July 20, 2009
REMARKS BY THE PRESIDENT AFTER MEETING WITH APOLLO 11 CREW - Oval Office
THE PRESIDENT: Very rarely do I have such an extraordinary pleasure as I have today to welcome three iconic figures, three genuine American heroes. To have Neil Armstrong, Michael Collins, and Buzz Aldrin here beside me is just wonderful.
<snip>
I should note, just personally, I grew up in Hawaii, as many of you know, and I still recall sitting on my grandfather's shoulders when those capsules would land in the middle of the Pacific and they'd get brought back and we'd go out and we'd pretend like they could see us as we were waving at folks coming home. And I remember waving American flags and my grandfather telling me that the Apollo mission was an example of how Americans can do anything they put their minds to.
*cough* bs *cough*
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 25, 2012 12:32 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Magnolia at August 25, 2012 12:32 PM (3P3cj)
Posted by: Optimizer at August 25, 2012 12:32 PM (As94z)
From the five pages they devote to Neil Alden Armstrong.
"Neil, the youngest man in his squadron, flew 78 combat missions off the carrier U.S.S Essex during the Korean War, including one in a cable stretched across a North Korean valley - the one made famous in James Michener's 'The Bridges at Toko-Ri' - clipped off the wing of his jet. He won the respect and admiration of his older squadron mates by nursing the plane back over friendly territory, then bailing out safely.
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Armstrong spent the next seven years at Edwards Air Force Base in California becoming one of the most accomplished test pilots in the world. Characteristically, perhaps, he and his wife, Janet, chose not to live in the nearby town of Lancaster, where most of the test pilots lived; instead they acquired and restored a former forest ranger's cabin in the foothills of the San Gabriel Mountains. Those years were marred by the death of one of Armstrong's three children, Karen of a brain tumor."
Neil had read 90 books in the first grade, he had tutored in high shool math and science. Was a Boy Scout. Learned how to play the piano and played the baritone horn. Got his pilot's license before his driver's license.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 25, 2012 12:33 PM (zMgpj)
Just a side note for those interested about Apollo 11.
Ever seen the movie 'The Dish'? It's an Aussie film about the guys (who sort of screwed up) who allowed us to see the moon landing live.
Very sweet film, stars Sam Neill.
Posted by: HH at August 25, 2012 12:33 PM (v+ExF)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at August 25, 2012 12:33 PM (JKNDp)
78I'm sorry that Neil Armstrong had to witness our space program deteriorate to the point where Americans have to hitchhike into space. Pathetic.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at August 25, 2012 04:21 PM (UhXp9)
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I am not. Private space travel is much better.
Let's keep the Federal Government confined to the Earth.
Posted by: eman at August 25, 2012 04:24 PM (Wp4rQ)
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I agree with this, eman.
However....China and Russia are in a race to get to the Moon.
We were in the race too, until Barky cancelled our program.
It will be interesting to see, if they are as magnanimous as we were....when they get to the Moon.
Will they claim it for their territory?
Will they target our corporate spacecraft, when they are up there too?
What is to stop them?
Posted by: wheatie at August 25, 2012 12:33 PM (mtRB0)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 25, 2012 12:34 PM (hO8IJ)
Without doubt, Senor Barky McStumblefuck will gloom onto Neil Armstrong's notoriety with the stated purpose of honoring a space pioneer, but the underlying message will be vote for me, I'm just like Neil Armstrong.
Posted by: Dr Fish, TDY to SAT for ill mom at August 25, 2012 12:36 PM (ndqJC)
Posted by: logprof at August 25, 2012 12:36 PM (evN68)
Wasn't the little shit stain living in Indonesia and munching on dog in 1969?
Posted by: fluffy, calendarist at August 25, 2012 12:36 PM (z9HTb)
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/In_Event_of_Moon_Disaster
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 25, 2012 12:36 PM (hO8IJ)
*cough* bs *cough*
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 25, 2012 04:32 PM (kdS6q)"
Wasn't he living in Indonesia during most of the sixties?
Posted by: baldilocks at August 25, 2012 12:36 PM (6kWFm)
That's a great movie.
Wonderful reminder of how many people around the world it took to make that event happen.
Posted by: DrewM. at August 25, 2012 12:38 PM (ehlWj)
Posted by: mallfly at August 25, 2012 12:38 PM (bJm7W)
Posted by: thunderb at August 25, 2012 12:38 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Hurricane Isaac at August 25, 2012 12:40 PM (w062R)
Posted by: eman at August 25, 2012 12:40 PM (Wp4rQ)
Guilty.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 25, 2012 04:14 PM (hO8IJ)
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OMG! So you're the one that clipped the wings of so many childhood dreams.
Posted by: Soona at August 25, 2012 12:40 PM (tEYfe)
@110
"In 1967, Dunham and her six-year-old son moved to Jakarta to rejoin Soetoro."
But, maybe he was catching the bus to Hawaii to spend weekends with the grands.....
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 25, 2012 12:41 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: logprof at August 25, 2012 12:42 PM (evN68)
Posted by: ErikW at August 25, 2012 04:27 PM (fk5cT)
It was an HBO miniseries from the 90's that dealt with the US's Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo missions. I thought it was pretty good except for probably the last episode, and would probably say most of the episodes were excellent. If you can get it or ever have the chance to watch it, its definitely worth it. The actor that is on Breaking Bad actually had the role of Buzz Aldrin.
Posted by: buzzion at August 25, 2012 12:42 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Jean-Pierre at August 25, 2012 12:42 PM (2Y56z)
As a NASA kid, I just took it for granted that everything would go off as planned - it wasn't until a few years later when I overheard my dad talking about all of the stuff that he and fellow engineers worried about that I realized what an amazing accomplishment that was.
What an amazing and humble man Mr. Armstrong was. Godspeed, sir.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at August 25, 2012 12:42 PM (P6H+d)
Posted by: The AOSHQ '&' Preservation Society at August 25, 2012 12:43 PM (26i79)
The only downside of the whole Apollo 11 thing - which nobody likes to think about, naturally - is that it represents an overreach in the scope of government. Where is it said that government should fund exploration? It's inherently wasteful.
In this case, it was an outrageously expensive operation of no practical value (which is undoubtedly why we did not return). It was a political statement, and a bit of a self-contradictory one at that. "We're going to show that a government-centered society is inferior, using our own massive government program."
That being said, I can't help but support this "guilty pleasure" of having America go down in history as being first there. If there was ever a place to make an exception to limited government, this was it.
The futility and waste of government programs was ultimately borne out. NASA is a mere shadow of its original triumphant self, and not just because of funding cuts. Everything was always way over budget. Private companies are coming into being. Some of those may have government funding involved, and they're as micro-managed as everybody else these days, but it can't be as bad as being a government agency. I think the companies that lauch satellites, at least, stand on their own feet.
Posted by: Optimizer at August 25, 2012 12:43 PM (As94z)
I was 8. I remember building models of the Lunar Lander and watching Apollo on television. One of my buddies had a plastic space helmet and we'd take turns pretending we were walking on the Moon.
It's hard to believe that it has been about 40 years since man has been there. Those guys had huge stones back then; now NASA has muz outreach as one of its missions -- f*cking sad.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at August 25, 2012 12:44 PM (xFgmp)
Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at August 25, 2012 12:44 PM (uK9Au)
Posted by: The Political Hat at August 25, 2012 12:44 PM (sZTYJ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 25, 2012 12:46 PM (FCe/P)
Posted by: GuyfromNH at August 25, 2012 12:46 PM (YOe1f)
Lets give him due honor.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 25, 2012 12:48 PM (zMgpj)
Posted by: NBC News at August 25, 2012 12:49 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: thunderb at August 25, 2012 12:49 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at August 25, 2012 12:50 PM (2Oas0)
Posted by: soothsayer in a chariot dragging a corpse at August 25, 2012 12:50 PM (C0ttM)
Posted by: Thresherman at August 25, 2012 12:50 PM (Vbcjo)
"From The Earth To The Moon"...was one of the few decent miniseries productions that HBO has ever aired, imho.
It was Tom Hanks first time to produce something, I think.
"A bunch of white guys in ties...accomplished something amazing"....was part of Hank's narration.
I was glad to see it made...to help dispell the ridiculous theory about it all being a 'hoax'.
Shame that Hanks has become such a toady for the Dogeater, who has killed our program for going back there.
Posted by: wheatie at August 25, 2012 12:50 PM (mtRB0)
and we realized that if we could put a man on the moon, we could put a jerk in the White House.
Posted by: mallfly at August 25, 2012 12:51 PM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Stone Cold at August 25, 2012 12:51 PM (GEICT)
Neil Armstrong must have been the one who put both the US flag and the Black Liberation flag on the moon? Did he also drive to Mars and place the flag on that heavenly body?
Posted by: Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Moonbattery at August 25, 2012 12:52 PM (ndqJC)
You'll find out as soon as the poll numbers are in.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 25, 2012 12:52 PM (Qxdfp)
Posted by: Stanley Kubrick at August 25, 2012 12:52 PM (sZTYJ)
I'm just happy we dont honor the chimps NASA used for space flights.
Because I hate fucking chimps.
but we put Chimpy McBushHitler in the White House, didn't we? A valuable lesson for us all. Indeed.
Posted by: mallfly at August 25, 2012 12:52 PM (bJm7W)
Posted by: eman at August 25, 2012 12:53 PM (Wp4rQ)
Posted by: soothsayer in a chariot dragging a corpse at August 25, 2012 12:53 PM (QVBzT)
Try girls instead.
The chances of getting your face bitten off are a bit less.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 25, 2012 12:53 PM (Qxdfp)
Posted by: soothsayer in a chariot dragging a corpse at August 25, 2012 12:55 PM (0D8hD)
Apollo 11 memories. A gas station, I believe it was Gulf, gave away those paper cutout models of the LEM. My mom and I put it together. That was a magical time to be young. Amazing to think about. Those guys all had the right stuff. They were human, had failings and problems, but can you imagine the courage it took to do what they did.
Godspeed Mr Armstrong. May your name and deeds be long remembered and honored.
Posted by: Havedash at August 25, 2012 12:55 PM (ToMJU)
Posted by: t-bird at August 25, 2012 12:55 PM (FcR7P)
@132 "Beep"
Heh. Sub-orbital flight and orbiting the Earth were of military value, and the latter would have commercial value decades later, but there is still no practical value to even orbiting the Moon, much less landing there. [And I correct myself - we did go back, 5 times. I was referring to how we haven't gone back since those times.] Once the 1st landing was over, the point was made, and the rest was just some very expensive science experiments.
Don't get me wrong - I'd enjoy a nostalgic return trip, just to show we've "still got it". But let's not kid ourselves that it's much more than some really amazing entertainment.
Posted by: Optimizer at August 25, 2012 12:56 PM (As94z)
Posted by: Spurwing Biden at August 25, 2012 12:57 PM (MMC8r)
126
The only downside of the whole Apollo 11 thing - which nobody likes to think about, naturally - is that it represents an overreach in the scope of government. Where is it said that government should fund exploration? It's inherently wasteful.
Posted by: Optimizer at August 25, 2012 04:43 PM (As94z)
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Ahem.
The Cold War was going strong at the time.
If you forget that part....then, yeah, it doesn't make sense.
There was the very real concern, that the Soviet Union would weaponize Space.
Russia has a profit motive now, for going to the Moon....to mine for Helium3.
If it weren't for the Moon rocks and samples that we brought back, they would not know that it is there, in abundance.
Ironic, huh?
Posted by: wheatie at August 25, 2012 12:57 PM (mtRB0)
Did you see an ibex? I think they are fluffy. I probably smell like an ibex.
Posted by: fluffy at August 25, 2012 12:58 PM (z9HTb)
Posted by: NASA at August 25, 2012 12:58 PM (Wp4rQ)
Posted by: Optimizer at August 25, 2012 04:43 PM (As94z)
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You're forgetting one thing. Most Americans at that time thought the space program was money well spent. It wasn't until the little squeaky leftist wheels started screaming and rioting over the cost did a democrat president and congress start cutting NASA funding. I remember my dad (a taxpayer) being extremely pissed about it.
So don't be trying to give me lessons on the leftist bullshit that you've accepted as to what people did or did not like about manned space flight.
Posted by: Soona at August 25, 2012 12:58 PM (tEYfe)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Abernathy
Actually, several hundred.
Posted by: Boulder Hobo at August 25, 2012 12:58 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: soothsayer in a chariot dragging a corpse at August 25, 2012 12:59 PM (6OiNi)
Next week, the #WhoIsNeilArmstrong hashtag game. Next week. It's too soon.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 25, 2012 01:00 PM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: eman at August 25, 2012 04:53 PM (Wp4rQ)
Funny, I remember back in the late '80s or so that the Soviets were offering us the use of their Energia Rockets. Which were the size and power of our Saturn 5's that we had stopped making.
Using some of that as opposed to the Shuttle...
Spilt milk and all of that...
Posted by: HH at August 25, 2012 01:00 PM (v+ExF)
"149 Instead of doing all that low orbit bullcrap NASA could have spent thirty years filling a crater on the Moon with supplies and equipment for future landings.
Same thing with Mars.
It would have been relatively cheap, taught us a lot about how to land payloads on other worlds, and made visits by people much more economical and feasible."
Maybe. But you DO realize that all you're talking about is some really, really cool, but REALLY, REALLY, REALLY expensive tourism, right?
Posted by: Optimizer at August 25, 2012 01:00 PM (As94z)
Optimizer, The moon was supposd to be a stepping stone to the stars. Get to the moon, build some sort of habitat to study the effects of space, then on to Mars and beyond. We can't stay on this big blue marble forever.
Besides, the space program has given us all kinds of technology, not just Tang. It all gave us teflon and velcro, to name two products.
Posted by: The AOSHQ '&' Preservation Society at August 25, 2012 01:00 PM (26i79)
I don't think private industry is at a point where it is suited to advance space exploration to an adequate extent. Such an endeavor requires a massive investment, with any return in the relatively short-term being questionable.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at August 25, 2012 01:01 PM (1yYh1)
Posted by: Golan Globus at August 25, 2012 01:01 PM (/1U3u)
Posted by: toby928© at August 25, 2012 01:02 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: eman at August 25, 2012 01:02 PM (Wp4rQ)
Posted by: and irresolute at August 25, 2012 01:03 PM (Q492A)
And
'the Rev. Ralph D. Abernathy with his demonstrators calling attention to the needs of the poor people of the country, needs that many felt were slighted partly because of the expense of the moon project.'
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 25, 2012 01:03 PM (zMgpj)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at August 25, 2012 01:03 PM (feFL6)
Neil Armstrong was the poster boy for that era. He did that.
Go and touch the face of God, and rest in peace.
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 25, 2012 01:03 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: 13timess at August 25, 2012 01:04 PM (h6XiD)
Posted by: PaulRyansHair at August 25, 2012 01:04 PM (S7DCS)
Posted by: The AOSHQ '&' Preservation Society at August 25, 2012 05:00 PM (26i79)
And Zero G pens that write ... even upside down.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 25, 2012 01:04 PM (BAS5M)
Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at August 25, 2012 01:04 PM (N0Z/x)
Posted by: eman at August 25, 2012 01:05 PM (Wp4rQ)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 25, 2012 01:06 PM (zMgpj)
Posted by: DrewM. at August 25, 2012 01:06 PM (ehlWj)
Posted by: eman at August 25, 2012 01:06 PM (Wp4rQ)
"161Posted by: Optimizer at August 25, 2012 04:43 PM (As94z)
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You're forgetting one thing. Most Americans at that time thought the space program was money well spent. It wasn't until the little squeaky leftist wheels started screaming and rioting over the cost did a democrat president and congress start cutting NASA funding. I remember my dad (a taxpayer) being extremely pissed about it.
So don't be trying to give me lessons on the leftist bullshit that you've accepted as to what people did or did not like about manned space flight."
You cut me to the proverbial "quick"!
I said I was willing to forgive the divergence from the proper role of government in this case - to make an exception. But the whole idea of even having a NASA is a leftist one, so I'm taken aback at the notion that I am passing along leftist BS. Just because the spending was popular, it doesn't mean it wasn't collectivist. Hell, social security and medicare are collectivist (i.e., "leftist") programs beyond the mandate of government, but they are popular, too.
Posted by: Optimizer at August 25, 2012 01:06 PM (As94z)
Posted by: nickless at August 25, 2012 01:06 PM (MMC8r)
[i[Once the 1st landing was over, the point was made, and the rest was just some very expensive science experiments.[/i]
Shit Columbus never said to Queen Isabella.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 25, 2012 01:08 PM (BAS5M)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 25, 2012 01:08 PM (FCe/P)
Posted by: Optimizer at August 25, 2012 05:00 PM (As94z)
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I guess life with leftist education has sucked the sense of adventure out of you. I pity you and your shallow imagination.
Posted by: Soona at August 25, 2012 01:08 PM (tEYfe)
Neil Armstrong - Eagle Scout - was proud of this his whole life. The LEM was named Eagle in this regard. The phrase "The Eagle has landed" was a triple entandry.
He used to get sacks of mail form Eagles wanting a letter of congratulations each DAY until he begged them to stopo (he was going broke paying postage trying to keep up).
Posted by: Mycroft at August 25, 2012 01:09 PM (qDICb)
Posted by: Ben at August 25, 2012 01:09 PM (XDHBy)
I was just shy of my 6th birthday when I vividly remember my dad waking up my brother and I so that we could see the landing. I remember being sleepy. I remember not really knowing what I was watching. But stood there I did and watched this miraculous moment in history. So thankful my dad knew the importance of having us be part of witnessing such an event.
Several years back, I read, "Failure is Not an Option" by Gene Kranz. It was a phenomenal book. I looked him up on the internet and sent that book to him, asking if he'd sign it. He did and mailed back several trinkets for my son.
Posted by: Lady in Black at August 25, 2012 01:09 PM (lTVJy)
Posted by: nickless at August 25, 2012 01:11 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Alex at August 25, 2012 01:11 PM (/nZEe)
Maybe they quit going to space because no one can do the math anymore.
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 25, 2012 01:11 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Brad at August 25, 2012 01:11 PM (mb+2b)
Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at August 25, 2012 01:12 PM (N0Z/x)
The voters already tried to get to Earth. They crashed in Roswell in a '42 Volksrocket that they jury-rigged. They were aiming for Miami initially.
Posted by: Alex at August 25, 2012 01:12 PM (/nZEe)
Posted by: t-bird at August 25, 2012 01:13 PM (FcR7P)
RIP Neil Armstrong.
And here we are with a president who thinks "skunkworks" means that capitalism is stinky.
<sigh>
Posted by: Mama AJ at August 25, 2012 01:13 PM (SUKHu)
"186 If we're gonna bitch about the government wasting money, the moon landing is going to come way way way down the list."
Exactly. Like I said (at least twice now). If ever there was a case for making an exception, this was it. At least for the 1st landing, although I suppose you could say the next one or two showed it wasn't just a fluke.
I'm just suggesting we guard ourselves for the obvious and inevitable suggestions that this is proof positive about the virtues of massive government programs. When we unreservedly embrace this one, we can find ourselves walking headfirst into some hypocracy.
Really, this is the time to simply honor this great American, but we know that the forces of evil will not let it be simply that, and we must ready ourselves for that assault on our freedoms.
Posted by: Optimizer at August 25, 2012 01:14 PM (As94z)
Posted by: Patriot at August 25, 2012 01:14 PM (2Y56z)
Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at August 25, 2012 01:15 PM (N0Z/x)
>>Fold NASA into the USAF. Orbit still is a military necessity, even more so than ever; we need to be able to put men and material into orbit quickly and efficiently. Give it a secondary mission to develop the capability to defend against a rogue asteroid, which should give you enough wiggle room to justify exploration out to the Moon.
Makes sense to me.
Posted by: J. O'Neill at August 25, 2012 01:15 PM (SUKHu)
Teach your children well, indeed.
Posted by: Alex at August 25, 2012 01:15 PM (/nZEe)
Let's see how long it stays up.
No no no. Armstrong went to the Moon. Young just got high with Crosby, Stills and Nash.
Posted by: Alex at August 25, 2012 01:16 PM (/nZEe)
It's already been fixed. Took less than two minutes. Still, funny.
Posted by: blue star at August 25, 2012 01:16 PM (gCwz+)
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 25, 2012 01:16 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 25, 2012 01:19 PM (BAS5M)
"195 Fold NASA into the USAF. Orbit still is a military necessity, even more so than ever; we need to be able to put men and material into orbit quickly and efficiently. Give it a secondary mission to develop the capability to defend against a rogue asteroid, which should give you enough wiggle room to justify exploration out to the Moon."
Sure. Like I said, NASA has become a mere shadow of its former self, as was inevitable. What I forgot to add was that under THIS president, it has become a political propaganda agency, whose job is to push "climate change" alarmism.
That's what happens when you institutionalize scientific research. Rand foresaw this even back in the 50s (or was it the 40s!), in "Atlas Shriugged."
Posted by: Optimizer at August 25, 2012 01:19 PM (As94z)
Posted by: soothsayer in a chariot dragging a corpse at August 25, 2012 01:19 PM (EaivH)
Posted by: Astronaut Neil Young at August 25, 2012 01:19 PM (Wp4rQ)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at August 25, 2012 01:20 PM (feFL6)
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 25, 2012 01:21 PM (P6QsQ)
Once we get this economic shitstorm under control, let's build a true memorial. A working spaceport. A Lunar base. A habitat on Mars.
Let's go back to space, and say he sent us.
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at August 25, 2012 01:21 PM (wfSF5)
Posted by: soothsayer in a chariot dragging a corpse at August 25, 2012 01:22 PM (3dufx)
I am not so far removed from reality that I think that private enterprise can solely afford manned space exploration. We'll need the monetary assistance of the the federal government, at least, in the beginning.
I find nothing nobler in mankind than to have men take risks to expand humankinds reach beyond known territory. We used to celebrate explorers setting foot on new frontiers. I guess the need to to be politically correct has replaced that spirit.
Posted by: Soona at August 25, 2012 01:22 PM (tEYfe)
Ugh. No money for man to explore the mysteries of the universe, but public funding for frat boys to explore her well trod uterus.
Posted by: Alex at August 25, 2012 01:22 PM (/nZEe)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at August 25, 2012 01:22 PM (deX6y)
"212 Give it a rest, Optimizer. No one's buying any today."
If you don't want to count down to Obama trying to make political hay out of this with me, you don't have to, but there's still a critically important election going on here. Bad timing for this event, unfortunately.
Posted by: Optimizer at August 25, 2012 01:23 PM (As94z)
Posted by: Infidel at August 25, 2012 01:24 PM (g7aoF)
Posted by: thunderb at August 25, 2012 01:24 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: rdbrewer at August 25, 2012 01:24 PM (Iyg03)
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 25, 2012 01:24 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Peaches at August 25, 2012 01:24 PM (kpCLl)
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"Four dead in Oiho." (Sorry, couldn't help it.)
Posted by: Lady in Black at August 25, 2012 01:25 PM (lTVJy)
Posted by: Leetspeek at August 25, 2012 01:25 PM (CjACi)
Posted by: Alex at August 25, 2012 01:26 PM (/nZEe)
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 25, 2012 01:26 PM (P6QsQ)
Just to prove that it was possible to get out of the Earth's gravity, to stay in space that long, to land on another planet and to take off and to get back safely - that is a stupendous achievement.
RIP, hero.
Posted by: Boulder Hobo at August 25, 2012 01:26 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: eman at August 25, 2012 01:26 PM (Wp4rQ)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at August 25, 2012 01:27 PM (deX6y)
He takes us back to the time when men of accomplishment were celebrated.
Now it's only the credentialed.
Posted by: Albie Damned at August 25, 2012 01:27 PM (Yhu4q)
Posted by: t-bird at August 25, 2012 01:28 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: soothsayer in a chariot dragging a corpse at August 25, 2012 01:28 PM (niyzp)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 25, 2012 01:28 PM (FCe/P)
Posted by: Infidel at August 25, 2012 01:28 PM (g7aoF)
Fuel is such a thing of the past. Soon spaceships will be powered sustainably by large windmills attached to their sides.
Posted by: Henry Chu, a Noble Laureate at August 25, 2012 01:28 PM (Jl3/t)
Posted by: thunderb at August 25, 2012 01:29 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Albie Damned at August 25, 2012 01:30 PM (Yhu4q)
Posted by: Charles Bolden, NASA Chief at August 25, 2012 01:30 PM (Jl3/t)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 25, 2012 01:30 PM (FCe/P)
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 25, 2012 05:19 PM (BAS5M)
Actually, in a lot of ways I agree with Optimizer. Although a huge fan of the space program, NASA always seemed to get stuck in a rut.
Yes, we did land on the moon, but then what? Was Apollo 15, 16, 17 necessary? Were we building a moon base or just collecting rocks?
Same with the Shuttle. What was the necessity to keep going up? So kids in schools could select experiments?
I still think that the best thing, so far, that NASA has ever done is the robotics. Voyagers'1 and 2 are for me, the best space exploration and science I have ever seen.
My .02 anyway...
Posted by: HH at August 25, 2012 01:31 PM (v+ExF)
Posted by: eman at August 25, 2012 01:31 PM (Wp4rQ)
Posted by: Cicero at August 25, 2012 01:32 PM (Jl3/t)
Posted by: eman at August 25, 2012 01:33 PM (Wp4rQ)
Posted by: soothsayer in a chariot dragging a corpse at August 25, 2012 01:33 PM (ZCAlb)
Posted by: jmel at August 25, 2012 01:34 PM (2xpNG)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at August 25, 2012 01:34 PM (deX6y)
Posted by: Cicero at August 25, 2012 01:34 PM (Jl3/t)
On a warm day, Neil Armstrong helped me open a stubborn window. I remember him as a quiet man with a sincere smile - a way with him as if each day of life was a gift.
Posted by: mrp at August 25, 2012 01:34 PM (HjPtV)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at August 25, 2012 01:35 PM (deX6y)
Just a partial list of........Things We Got From The Space Program:
Coaxial cable, for communications.
The hand-held vacuum cleaner.
Teflon-coated fiberglass [used in astrodomes].
Solar power.
Pill transmitters, swallowed to monitor BP, etc.
Carbon-fiber-reinforced graphite.
Metalic coated thermal blankets.
Lightweight breathing aparatus [now used by firefighters].
Better sunglasses derived from coatings used on helmut visors.
Strong, heat-resistant polymers.
"Explosive" bolts.
Dimpled golf balls, patterned after the aerodynamic dimples on the Shuttle.
Freeze-dried meals.
Plane wing-tips.
Nitinol, an alloy used in braces for teeth.
Heat-absorbing sportswear.
Laser technology.
Medicinal light-emitting diodes.
Shock absorbing foam, used in things such as artificial limbs.
Fire-detection technology, used by forestry service.
Trash compactors.
Chromosome analysis photography.
Groved concrete...first used for shuttle runway.
Anti-fogging material, used on goggles, etc.
Air quality monitoring.
Wireless telemetry.
Self-righting liferafts, now standard for Coastguard.
Hydraulic rescue cutters.
Home blood pressure kits.
Rubberized material, now used in swimsuits.
Satelite television.
Voice recognition technology.
Long-chain molecular rubber technology, used in long-life tires.
Retinal scanning.
Ultrasonic transmitters.
Oh, and....microwaves and Tang.
Posted by: wheatie at August 25, 2012 01:36 PM (mtRB0)
Posted by: USS Diversity at August 25, 2012 01:36 PM (0CiTm)
Thanks for the memories, and the real hope.
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 25, 2012 01:36 PM (cHZB7)
Posted by: nickless at August 25, 2012 01:36 PM (MMC8r)
And a cool internet meme: "Open the pod bay doors, HAL."
Posted by: Cicero at August 25, 2012 01:37 PM (Jl3/t)
Posted by: Soona at August 25, 2012 01:38 PM (tEYfe)
http://www.ibiblio.org/apollo/yaDSKY.html
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 25, 2012 01:39 PM (zMgpj)
Posted by: Hanoverfist at August 25, 2012 01:40 PM (HiKk0)
John Glenn was all over the interwebz a few years ago, fathering offspring, crashing servers, 'n' shit.
Posted by: fluffy at August 25, 2012 01:40 PM (z9HTb)
Posted by: Albie Damned at August 25, 2012 01:41 PM (Yhu4q)
Posted by: t-bird at August 25, 2012 01:42 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: eman at August 25, 2012 01:44 PM (Wp4rQ)
Posted by: soothsayer in a chariot dragging a corpse at August 25, 2012 01:44 PM (/v7wy)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at August 25, 2012 01:45 PM (deX6y)
Nope, not Tang, or Velcro, either. Or astronaut food, for that matter, which is far too crumbly for a microgravity cabin with lots of tiny crevices and switches.
Posted by: Filly at August 25, 2012 01:45 PM (flZ3r)
Posted by: USS Diversity at August 25, 2012 01:45 PM (0CiTm)
Posted by: PaulRyansHair at August 25, 2012 01:46 PM (S7DCS)
Posted by: soothsayer in a chariot dragging a corpse at August 25, 2012 01:46 PM (C0ttM)
Posted by: Sheila Jackson Lee at August 25, 2012 01:46 PM (tEYfe)
Posted by: Don Quinine at August 25, 2012 01:47 PM (ZcTkj)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 25, 2012 01:47 PM (GEICT)
275...Sporks?
I don't think so.
They tried to stay away from using silverware at all.....no gravity.
Food and water was primarily in those little squeezy-packets.
Posted by: wheatie at August 25, 2012 01:47 PM (mtRB0)
Posted by: t-bird at August 25, 2012 01:47 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at August 25, 2012 01:47 PM (deX6y)
Thing is, the real reason Armstrong, Collins and Aldrin were picked for Apollo 11 was...it was their turn to fly in the rotation. Had there been a delay, and Apollo 12 turned out to be the first landing, then Pete Conrad would have been the first man on the moon.
Even so Armstrong was definitely a hot stick, and that's a fact. He proved it when landing on the Moon, flying the ship manually with his fuel nearly gone, and he still got her down in one piece.
And yes, Neil Armstrong will definitely get that starship named for him...
3 at 105, sir. Godspeed.
Posted by: Cave Bear at August 25, 2012 01:48 PM (Rt0zI)
Thus far, Mr. Armstrong's death has been barely mentioned in passing.
Ironic, since he was the original moonwalker
Posted by: Albie Damned at August 25, 2012 01:48 PM (Yhu4q)
Posted by: MSNBC at August 25, 2012 01:48 PM (Wp4rQ)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC #1 Consumer of Chinese Flat Screen Monitors and Keyboards at August 25, 2012 01:49 PM (deX6y)
Velcro was developed for use on space suits....to avoid the danger of sparks from snaps and zippers.
Sparks....bad.
NASA learned this the hard way.
Posted by: wheatie at August 25, 2012 01:50 PM (mtRB0)
Posted by: nickless at August 25, 2012 01:51 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: soothsayer in a chariot dragging a corpse at August 25, 2012 01:51 PM (EaivH)
Posted by: nickless at August 25, 2012 01:53 PM (MMC8r)
Thus far, Mr. Armstrong's death has been barely mentioned in passing.
Ironic, since he was the original moonwalker
Posted by: Albie Damned at August 25, 2012 05:48 PM (Yhu4q)
Turn on Fox.....the have been doing stories since his death was announced. Periodically they'll do a story on something unrelated then it's back to Armstrong.
Godspeed Mr. Armstrong..I remember exactly where I was when you landed.
Posted by: Tami at August 25, 2012 01:53 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Ric Flair's Intergalactic Johnson at August 25, 2012 01:54 PM (deX6y)
Thus far, Mr. Armstrong's death has been barely mentioned in passing.
Posted by: Albie Damne
The compare/contrast with the amount of coverage of the recent death of Sally Ride should be illustrative.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 25, 2012 01:55 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at August 25, 2012 01:57 PM (deX6y)
Posted by: Neil Armstrong Young at August 25, 2012 02:03 PM (2Y56z)
Posted by: USS Diversity at August 25, 2012 02:03 PM (0CiTm)
Posted by: Quint&Jessel, Sea of Azof, Bly, UK at August 25, 2012 02:04 PM (7v5Ct)
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So what you're saying is, thank goodness there were no lunar delta smelts.
Posted by: Lady in Black at August 25, 2012 02:06 PM (lTVJy)
Posted by: Lady in Black at August 25, 2012 02:08 PM (lTVJy)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at August 25, 2012 02:08 PM (deX6y)
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Posted by: b+rry Ob+owmao at August 25, 2012 02:11 PM (D24gB)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at August 25, 2012 02:14 PM (deX6y)
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Posted by: Occutard at August 25, 2012 02:16 PM (hvzWz)
Posted by: Retread at August 25, 2012 02:17 PM (zxitI)
Posted by: Charts and Darts at August 25, 2012 02:25 PM (/gBQC)
Posted by: somebody else, not me at August 25, 2012 02:26 PM (nZvGM)
Posted by: RKinRoanoke at August 25, 2012 02:27 PM (pxur/)
Posted by: PaulRyansHair at August 25, 2012 02:31 PM (S7DCS)
EROWMER, 32nd Degree and Past Master
Posted by: EROWMER at August 25, 2012 02:32 PM (kxlCQ)
Posted by: Jir at August 25, 2012 02:35 PM (lBx/K)
Posted by: Obama at August 25, 2012 02:36 PM (UyYYt)
No, we have the balls but thanks to 0bama we have a shackled economy.
I denounce myself.
RIP, one of America's true pioneers in space.
Posted by: Gmac at August 25, 2012 02:40 PM (IanLz)
I was 13 years old on July 20, 1969.
I sat on the couch watching the first men walk on the moon, next to my Grandmother, who knew the Wright Brothers as a small child. Her grandfather hauled their "aeroplane" with his four horse hitch, out to Huffman Prairie where they developed a better plane, flying in 1904 and 1905 after Kitty Hawk in 1903.
I remember a lot of things from that week and those years, having watched as many of the flights and following everything so closely. I can only say that night in 1969 I was never prouder of my country or of being an American.
I just missed meeting Neil Armstrong in 2003 at the Centennial of Flight Airshow in Dayton. We were walking up and down the flightline of some historical aircraft, and one of the owners of one particular plane told us that we just missed Mr. Armstrong. So close to brushing up against history.
Godspeed, Neil Armstrong. You made us all so very proud.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at August 25, 2012 02:41 PM (sJTmU)
"324We were fighting in Vietnam in 69, yet had the moral and physical horsepower to send men to the moon and bring them back. I was a 19 year-old airdale allowed to watch the landing on the squadron ready-room television. One of the coolest moments ever. One fact not brought up here yet? Neil Armstrong was a Mason. 'The dust shall return to the earth as it was, and the spirit shall return to GOD who gave it'.
EROWMER, 32nd Degree and Past Master"
Interesting. But don't tell that to the conspiracy freaks. IIRC, they go up to 33rd degree, right?
I fired up Ancestry.com, in the hopes I could find out he was a 9th cousin, or something. No luck, but I did learn a curious factoid of trivia: he was 1/2 Swiss (his mother was 100%, although born here). I wonder if the Swiss know about this.
For the rest, his paternal grandmother was German, and his paternal grandfather had older roots in this country that appear to be WASP-y (which might relate to being a mason), going back into 18th century MD and VA.
Posted by: Optimizer at August 25, 2012 03:05 PM (As94z)
Posted by: Jeffersonian at August 25, 2012 03:07 PM (gxCRt)
My birthday is July 22nd; the 20th that year was on a weekend (I don't remember if Sat or Sun). My family was over for my 11th birthday that day; of course all we did was watch coverage of the landing. One memory of that day still is vivid in my mind. When Armstrong actually set foot on the moon everyone in the room involuntarily let out a gasp.
A few years later my parents met and became friends with Roy Neal, who had covered the space program for NBC. He had made many friends in the program including several astronauts. I remember meeting Gordon Cooper several times at various weekend gatherings. I really didn't know it at the time, but based on what he had done in the military and as an astronaut, I'm surprised that he was able to get his enormous balls through the door into the house! A nice guy as I remember. Also, Mr. Neal was one of the very few private individuals who had moon rocks in his possession. I didn't get to hold them as they were in a case with a small brass plack.
After time in the military and other pursuits I am now a high school science teacher. I'm thinking that Monday's lesson plan is out the window and I'll put together something about Apollo and Armstrong. Hope the little scholars appreciate it.
By the way, besides only 65 years from Kitty Hawk to the Moon remember that they did it with less computing power than we have in our laptops used to read AoS (and pr0n, of course).
Posted by: Mr Chips at August 25, 2012 03:23 PM (7V7aq)
Let the sweet fresh breezes heal me
As they rove around the girth
Of our lovely mother planet
Of the cool, green hills of Earth.
We've tried each spinning space mote
And reckoned its true worth:
Take us back again to the homes of men
On the cool, green hills of Earth.
The arching sky is calling
Spacemen back to their trade.
ALL HANDS! STAND BY! FREE FALLING!
And the lights below us fade.
Out ride the sons of Terra,
Far drives the thundering jet,
Up leaps a race of Earthmen,
Out, far, and onward yet ---
We pray for one last landing
On the globe that gave us birth;
Let us rest our eyes on the fleecy skies
And the cool, green hills of Earth.
-Robert A. Heinlein
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at August 25, 2012 03:59 PM (sJTmU)
Posted by: Donna V. at August 25, 2012 04:09 PM (EflcN)
Posted by: pawn at August 25, 2012 04:32 PM (iMsF6)
Posted by: alf767 at August 25, 2012 04:24 PM
I got one of those envelopes too. It was after they came back, so the parcel was an inch thick or more. So many great photos. My fave was the crew shot holding their helmets. The biggest kick was getting a hand written letter from each of the guys. I had written seperately to all 3. So, they actually wrote me back. I replied to Mike Collins, asking further questions (he was my favourite astronaut. I appreciated the command module pilots) and he wrote back again. The letters from these guys, as well as the missions are special memories from childhood. Neil Armstrong dying sucks. It had to come I suppose, but I always felt that the Apollo 11 crew would sort of keep going forever. There weren't many like Armstrong. There won't be many more. It's the end of something. Shit. I'm depressed.
Posted by: otho at August 25, 2012 05:21 PM (yBF/9)
Posted by: Buzz Aldrin at August 25, 2012 05:34 PM (wqffJ)
1. Mike Collins was not the original CMP for Apollo 11 - William Anders was supposed to be on the crew, (Apollo 11 crew was the back-up crew for Apollo
2. Armstrong was one of a few that few the X-15 for NASA before moving on to the Astronaut Program.
Pick up is biography and read it... powerful book about a man that never wanted to be in the spotlight...
Posted by: Mjölnir, the Banhammer from Hell at August 25, 2012 05:36 PM (6hQsR)
Posted by: rickl at August 25, 2012 05:58 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: PaulRyansHair at August 25, 2012 06:30 PM (S7DCS)
Posted by: Donna V. at August 25, 2012 06:36 PM (EflcN)
What a bitch, but we will endure. Still, to lose the first man to set foot on the moon - it is a passing among passings. We have work to do. Much work to do.
Posted by: Chas at August 25, 2012 08:38 PM (gAFPF)
Nothing but humble. Wow. I will always remember looking up at the moon that night he stepped foot on it and saying wow to myself.
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