June 15, 2012
— DrewM
More details soon but it looks like "young" people who came here as kids will get work permits, no path to citizenship.
Stand by for details.
Constitution? Never heard of it.
Politically it's brilliant desperate. It will energize his base and force the GOP to talk about being anti-DREAM Act and anti-illegal immigrant. ("Brilliant was my insta-reax but it's not. To be clear, it shows how weak Obama is. He's blowing off white working class voters but he's going to lose them anyway. He needs to rally his base to hold what he has. This will do that. Of course like most base rallying moves, it will rally the other side's too.)
Added:
"Young" is now defined as "Under 30".
The Obama administration will stop deporting and begin granting work permits to younger illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. as children and have since led law-abiding lives. The election-year initiative addresses a top priority of an influential Latino electorate that has been vocal in its opposition to administration deportation policies.The policy change, described to The Associated Press by two senior administration officials, will affect as many as 800,000 immigrants who have lived in fear of deportation. It also bypasses Congress and partially achieves the goals of the so-called DREAM Act, a long-sought but never enacted plan to establish a path toward citizenship for young people who came to the United States illegally but who have attended college or served in the military.
Congress rejected the full on DREAM Act and this more modest proposal was basically the Rubio plan that was going to be introduced as legislation at some point. But who needs Congress, right? They just get in the way.
My reaction to this?
In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
-Stuff Jefferson Actually Wrote, 3rd Edition, Revised.
I'm sure high unemployment swing state voters will be thrilled with millions of new workers now competing against them.
1:15 eastern Rose Garden announcement.
This will also step on Romney's bus tour a bit. It will be interesting to see how Mitt reacts. My guess? He won't very much. He'll stay focused on jobs and the economy.
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Under the president’s “deferred action” executive order, students in the U.S. who are already in deportation proceedings or those who qualify for the DREAM Act and have yet to come forward to Department of Homeland Security (DHS) officials, will not be deported and will be allowed to work in the United States.
Impeach the SOB
Posted by: Vic at June 15, 2012 05:57 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Thunderb at June 15, 2012 05:57 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: huerfano at June 15, 2012 05:58 AM (bAGA/)
Posted by: Thunderb at June 15, 2012 05:58 AM (Dnbau)
If the zapata fits.
Posted by: huerfano at June 15, 2012 06:00 AM (bAGA/)
Posted by: Thunderb at June 15, 2012 06:00 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Does This Leg Smell Gammy at June 15, 2012 06:00 AM (vndQB)
Posted by: Rich C at June 15, 2012 06:00 AM (HQPwN)
Posted by: cajun carrot at June 15, 2012 06:01 AM (UZQM8)
Posted by: sonnyspats at June 15, 2012 06:01 AM (Qr9Rc)
I'm sure a lot of working class people are going to love the prospect of losing their job to someone who will work for less or not getting hired because the employer can hire an illegal instead.
Posted by: Ben at June 15, 2012 06:01 AM (C2Y4l)
Posted by: Jean at June 15, 2012 06:01 AM (TjgR9)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 15, 2012 06:02 AM (MCDCp)
Posted by: Thunderb at June 15, 2012 06:02 AM (Dnbau)
Oh and what is the point of the legislature now? Are they going to grow a pair? I'm talking about Democrats and Republicans.
We're getting awfully close to have one two real branches of government
Posted by: Ben at June 15, 2012 06:02 AM (C2Y4l)
This is a completely lawless administration and they don't care who knows it.
Posted by: Mr. Dave at June 15, 2012 06:03 AM (OBDWE)
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 15, 2012 06:03 AM (bDMB8)
Posted by: Insane Obama Posse at June 15, 2012 06:03 AM (zNbcJ)
If McConnell and Bhoener had any balls they would tell the Democrats in the Senate that payback is a MF and there will be a Republican President in a few months. Lawless actions can work both ways.
Posted by: Vic at June 15, 2012 06:03 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 15, 2012 06:03 AM (Yvlb0)
Posted by: Thunderb at June 15, 2012 06:04 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: NAACP at June 15, 2012 06:04 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Vic at June 15, 2012 06:04 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Brother Cavil presents at June 15, 2012 06:04 AM (GBXon)
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 15, 2012 06:05 AM (bDMB8)
Posted by: Y-not at June 15, 2012 06:06 AM (5H6zj)
I don't know how politically brilliant this is, since independents and moderates aren't so keen on the idea of illegals getting any kind of special treatment. It's more like a desperation move. Now that Baraka has solidified the Sex and the City/Vogue editorial vote, he's working to secure the La Raza base.
Not too smart.
Posted by: kallisto at June 15, 2012 06:06 AM (jm/9g)
Posted by: Highsmith at June 15, 2012 06:07 AM (uwaMU)
Posted by: Y-not at June 15, 2012 06:08 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Tom at June 15, 2012 06:08 AM (bgzAd)
Posted by: Thunderb at June 15, 2012 06:08 AM (Dnbau)
As far as it being politically brilliant... eh, not really. There's no path to citizenship, so there's really not a lot in it for him. Let's not make a bigger deal of this than need be. It's unconstitutional, sure, but everything he does is, pretty much. This will have no impact on the election.
Posted by: Mr. Estrada at June 15, 2012 06:09 AM (a/Pps)
Next.. forgive all student loans held by the feds.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 15, 2012 06:09 AM (f9c2L)
Posted by: Guys Like Jeb Bush at June 15, 2012 06:09 AM (uaEZS)
So they left disfunctional governments, sometimes dictatorships... to come here and make us a dictatorship?
That's the problem with Californians too. They ruined California with there liberalism/socialism and now they are moving out and spreading the desease around the country!
We need a more solid limit on executive power. Maybe it is time for a constitutional amendment limiting executive power.
Posted by: petunia at June 15, 2012 06:09 AM (hgrmi)
Posted by: Y-not at June 15, 2012 06:10 AM (5H6zj)
8 Regardless of the political pros and cons of amnesty, how is this legal? Shouldn't someone sue him over this?
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They'll just say no one has standing. Just like with the birth certificate/eligibility issue.
With >8% unemployment I personally think anyone who loses a job to a now legal, illegal should have standing.
Posted by: tsrblke at June 15, 2012 06:10 AM (22rSN)
"I do not like this law, I shall not enforce it." - King Barry the Maleficent
Posted by: no good deed at June 15, 2012 06:10 AM (mjR67)
Posted by: Ben at June 15, 2012 10:01 AM (C2Y4l)
I had read something a couple of years ago that a business hiring a minority would get govt bennies? otherwise they're stuck with average guy with no added help with the costs of hiring?
does this count?
Posted by: willow at June 15, 2012 06:10 AM (TomZ9)
Posted by: Y-not at June 15, 2012 06:10 AM (5H6zj)
What for? He's ignoring the ones already there!
Posted by: Brother Cavil presents at June 15, 2012 06:11 AM (GBXon)
Posted by: Mr Pink at June 15, 2012 06:11 AM (R2N5P)
Posted by: Pharoah Bamaseti IV of Kenya at June 15, 2012 06:11 AM (YdQQY)
can apply for a work permit that will be good for two years with no limits on how many times it can be renewed
Citizenship, without the hassle of jury duty.
Also, zero surprise. Will be shocked if the Republicans rouse themselves to do something about it.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 15, 2012 06:11 AM (kdS6q)
as screwed up as this is, did we expect anything different?
he wants votes,
he will make them appear.
Posted by: willow at June 15, 2012 06:11 AM (TomZ9)
What's next!? Is he going to arm drug gangs across the border?!
Posted by: A day late and a dolla sort at June 15, 2012 06:12 AM (CEmuk)
Posted by: dagny at June 15, 2012 06:12 AM (WCAIB)
Posted by: Thunderb at June 15, 2012 06:12 AM (Dnbau)
Pfeh. As much as a pain in the neck mine are, I agreed to them, and I've been paying them off. I'd much prefer to simply have a better paying job so it didn't hurt as bad (or I could get rid of them faster).
Sometimes, the right thing sucks.
Posted by: Brother Cavil presents at June 15, 2012 06:12 AM (GBXon)
And without voting rights. And that's the key thing.
Posted by: Mr. Estrada at June 15, 2012 06:12 AM (a/Pps)
Posted by: The Tree of Liberty at June 15, 2012 06:13 AM (5Rurq)
Posted by: Lady in Black at June 15, 2012 06:13 AM (vOMX+)
Posted by: Y-not at June 15, 2012 06:13 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: A day late and a dolla short at June 15, 2012 06:13 AM (CEmuk)
Posted by: eman at June 15, 2012 06:14 AM (6KkLK)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 15, 2012 06:14 AM (C8mVl)
That happens anyway. Did anyone think that all the illegally-voting illegals were going to be deported before November?
This doesn't change the election.
Posted by: Mr. Estrada at June 15, 2012 06:14 AM (a/Pps)
Posted by: somebody else, not me at June 15, 2012 06:14 AM (nZvGM)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 15, 2012 06:15 AM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: Barky O'Ceaser the first at June 15, 2012 06:15 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at June 15, 2012 06:15 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 15, 2012 06:16 AM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 15, 2012 06:16 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: dagny at June 15, 2012 10:12 AM (WCAIB)
likely brand spanking new, they will be the citizens with fresh clean records, new ID and forgiveness of their past . as long as they were illegal.
i say this because i knew a guy, that when he screwed up financially or otherwise would start brand new with new identity!
no bad credit history, etc..
Posted by: willow at June 15, 2012 06:16 AM (TomZ9)
Posted by: Y-not at June 15, 2012 06:16 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 15, 2012 06:16 AM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: SirOsisofLiver at June 15, 2012 06:17 AM (MuGDP)
@davidfrum
Well, if you can't deliver an economic recovery, ethnic politics must be the fallback plan.
Stock clock, yadda, yadda.
Posted by: John P. Squibob at June 15, 2012 06:17 AM (kqqGm)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at June 15, 2012 06:17 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: fat ass teachers union members at June 15, 2012 06:17 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at June 15, 2012 06:17 AM (Qxdfp)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 15, 2012 06:17 AM (1Jaio)
And without voting rights. And that's the key thing.
Posted by: Mr. Estrada
Because people who have lied repeatedly about their citizenship to illegally stay in this country would never ever lie on election day hot sheet registration.
Might as well just give Obama Florida, Nevada and New Mexico now.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 15, 2012 06:18 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: fat ass teachers union members at June 15, 2012 06:18 AM (5H6zj)
Well there's a promise SCOAMT kept.
Posted by: Retread at June 15, 2012 06:18 AM (I2fq9)
Posted by: Tom at June 15, 2012 06:19 AM (bgzAd)
Posted by: Barky O'Hitler at June 15, 2012 06:19 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: eman at June 15, 2012 06:19 AM (6KkLK)
Posted by: JonathanEllis at June 15, 2012 06:19 AM (BdzEV)
Posted by: Thunderb at June 15, 2012 06:19 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Richard Nixon at June 15, 2012 06:20 AM (0MTHQ)
This is just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic for Obama. Anything he does by Executive Order can be undone by President Romney on his first day in office. If these young illegals are that smart they will figure this out. Getting a work permit now will just make it easier for the next Administration to find them and deport them.
All Romney should say about this is that is is another example of Obama abusing his power and not working with Congress on a solution as a leader should. Part of the reason Obama is doing this is an attempt to tar-baby Romney and get him to counterattack in a way that makes him and Republicans sound racist and mean. They should not take the bait.
Posted by: rockmom at June 15, 2012 06:20 AM (qE3AR)
It's not a "smart move." It's not a "surprisingly smart move." It's not "politically brilliant." And it's really not a lot new. They stopped deporting people who weren't guilty of criminal offenses (other than being here illegally) months ago. This doesn't change anything.
Posted by: Mr. Estrada at June 15, 2012 06:20 AM (a/Pps)
More stuff that ol' T.J. actually wrote can be found at the Online Library of Liberty.
See also: 'Liberty Library of Constitutional Classics.' Plus: 'Anti-Federalist Papers' at constitution dot org.
Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at June 15, 2012 06:20 AM (WwR1j)
And that's what this is all about, isn't it?
Posted by: Lizzy at June 15, 2012 06:20 AM (kco//)
Posted by: King George Obama III at June 15, 2012 06:21 AM (YdQQY)
He has, in essence, just deemed Congress unnecessary. And, because it suits his ideological goals, Harry Reid will just
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at June 15, 2012 06:21 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Mr Pink at June 15, 2012 06:21 AM (R2N5P)
Posted by: Tom at June 15, 2012 06:21 AM (bgzAd)
Dude, La Raza was doing that *anyway*. In perpetuity. Constantly. Forever. It's why they exist. This changes *nothing*. So, let's not freak out about it.
Posted by: Mr. Estrada at June 15, 2012 06:22 AM (a/Pps)
executive order list for next Republican President.
let's start writing it and scare the crap out of the left for being such little mussonlini's
1. Public Unions outlawed.
2.
Posted by: willow at June 15, 2012 06:22 AM (TomZ9)
Posted by: nickless at June 15, 2012 06:22 AM (MMC8r)
Think we could get someone, either Ace or a cob-logger, to explain how this sort of thing works? I think much of the moron horde is unclear on Executive Orders, their limits, and how Presidential power works in relation to the other branches.
I'm not excluding myself from that, by the way. No clue how this works.
Posted by: Hal at June 15, 2012 06:22 AM (MftY/)
Posted by: dagny at June 15, 2012 10:09 AM (WCAIB)
Yep. Given that thread is dying I can imagine you can figure out where to find me on the twitters (I'll give you a hint: @tsrblke) if you want to yell at me some more 
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Posted by: tsrblke at June 15, 2012 06:22 AM (22rSN)
Posted by: eman at June 15, 2012 06:23 AM (6KkLK)
My wife came from Denmark, and we've just spent a lot of time and money filling out greencard paperwork and struggling on a single income until she can get work permission. We still have to do the interview and background check stages of this process IF she is accepted.
This, THIS bullshit is a slap in the face to she and I and anyone who goes through the rigorous and labyrinthine channels to actually legally immigrate.
Posted by: Heralder at June 15, 2012 06:23 AM (+xmn4)
Posted by: Wilkins at June 15, 2012 06:23 AM (fVgpT)
Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at June 15, 2012 10:15 AM
Are you effing kidding? Rubio has a "Dream Act" he wants to introduce, and caved in to support the commie Hispanic babe Bark Obama wants to make an ambassador. Rubio is turning out to be a dismal failure as a "conservative."
Wonder if the Traitor-in-Chief will have all these new "legal" illegals kitted out with voting registration before November....
Posted by: MrScribbler at June 15, 2012 06:23 AM (MQc8e)
Posted by: Tom at June 15, 2012 06:23 AM (bgzAd)
Posted by: yobobbyb at June 15, 2012 06:24 AM (M/qsV)
1) Harriet Meyers nomination
2) Amnesty
I suspect this will not work out the way they think.
(also: does this explain Rubio's recent stupidity, that he knew something like this was in the works and was trying to get out front and put a GOP badge on it?)
(further: even if it was in the works, how in the world is Rubio so tone deaf that he can't hear how much the GOP base opposes anything without enforcement first?)
Posted by: RoyalOil at June 15, 2012 06:24 AM (kSaUf)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 15, 2012 06:24 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Baraka XIV at June 15, 2012 06:24 AM (FcR7P)
If this EO receives a peep of coverage in the MSM, it will be cast as just another wonderful attempt by our wonderful mocha Jesus to jump start the economy.
It's getting surreal. Hell, it's been surreal for years now.
Posted by: Jaws at June 15, 2012 06:24 AM (4I3Uo)
Posted by: Tom at June 15, 2012 06:25 AM (bgzAd)
In other words, a shot off the bow to tell him "This is going to bite you in the ass when you lose."
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at June 15, 2012 06:25 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 15, 2012 06:25 AM (niZvt)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 15, 2012 06:25 AM (C8mVl)
Marco Rubio and Lynn Graham need to come out and force-ably oppose this. He can yammer on about agreeing with the results, but ends do not justify means. He needs to say this is a brazen run around the Constitution and Congress and that even those who agree with it must stand against a SCFMT to oppose this executive action.
Romney can then point to their response...say the Constitution has parameters we should follow...defer to Congress as the place this should be addressed, not executive fiat...and then reframe to the economy.
Posted by: The Hammer at June 15, 2012 06:25 AM (wo1YR)
Anything he does by Executive Order can be undone by President Romney
Posted by: rockmom
Mitt aint there yet.
Pretty clear Obama is going for a 270 strategy that allows him to give-up the Northern industrial states and squeak by with the Pacific, Northeast and heavily "immigrant" states in the South.
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Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 15, 2012 06:26 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 15, 2012 06:26 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Joe Obama Stalin at June 15, 2012 06:26 AM (YdQQY)
The sad part is that W probably was entertaining the same maneuver when he was President.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 15, 2012 06:26 AM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: Thunderb at June 15, 2012 06:26 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: nickless at June 15, 2012 06:26 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: SH at June 15, 2012 06:26 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 15, 2012 06:26 AM (niZvt)
This will also step on Romney's bus tour a bit. It will be interesting to see how Mitt reacts. My guess? He won't very much. He'll stay focused on jobs and the economy.
And addressing this doesn't have to do with jobs and the economy? It's a pretty easy tie-in.
He hasn't lost much ground among hispanics, so this whole thing is solely about energizing the base. Mitt could easily use this to further erode blacks' support of Obama since the loss of min wage jobs hurts them disproportionately higher.
I'm not seeing the political brilliance of the move personally, but there's no guarantee Mitt is going to exploit this.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at June 15, 2012 06:26 AM (YhjZc)
Posted by: Anna Wintour : Vogue Editor at June 15, 2012 06:27 AM (c3mby)
Posted by: amidoinitright at June 15, 2012 06:27 AM (CbzSx)
Heralder who knew all that effort to become a citizen would end up so easy!
anyway i would like to say , i'm thrilled when someone likes America enough to go through the hassle and I thank your wife for being respectful of the law.
and welcome to america the land of the .....?
well. anyway thank her.
Posted by: willow at June 15, 2012 06:27 AM (TomZ9)
I do this by imperial decree!
*cough* *cough*
Yeah man, I can never say that with a straight face, man. Pass me that steamrollerz, dudez...
Posted by: King Choom the First at June 15, 2012 06:27 AM (rG6as)
Posted by: Heralder at June 15, 2012 10:23 AM (+xmn4)
Yeah. A guy here at work from Byelorussia went through the rigamarole to become a citizen and was clearly exasperated by it. He said he would have given up if it weren't for the fact that he couldn't go back to Byelorussia.
Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at June 15, 2012 06:27 AM (RD7QR)
I was at the U.S. Consulate in Toronto yesterday renewing my passport. There were a shit-ton of people standing outside in line for visa applications. A line I thankfully got to bypass. Citizenship has its priveliges.
If I had gotten this story yesterday I would have printed copies to hand out and tell these poor souls not to bother complying with our immigration laws, because the system is set up to reward the lawbreaking and punish the law abiding.
If you're skilled and can think for yourself, we don't want you. You might eventually vote Republican.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 15, 2012 06:28 AM (Yvlb0)
I have a brilliant two fold plan for energizing my re-election chances.
The first.... by executive order..... is the legalization of marijuana. Its high time we called a truce on the War on Drugs.
The second...... by executive order..... is amnesty for illegals. If we just employ more maids, landscapers, gardeners, and janitors.... work Americans WONT do.... we'll stimulate the economy. Think of the spike in sales of just brooms, if you will.
So... were are dumping Forward!! as a campaign strategy and am pleased to announce:
OBAMA 2012: Choom and Broom
Posted by: Mr President at June 15, 2012 06:28 AM (C8hzL)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 15, 2012 06:28 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Eric Holder at June 15, 2012 06:28 AM (136wp)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 15, 2012 06:28 AM (C8mVl)
Anyone from a legal immigrant family is keenly aware of the timeconsuming hurdles and legalities that have to be observed. Anytime I've gotten into these discussions with pro-illegals, I remind them how my parents had to comply with the law in order to become resident aliens and eventually naturalized. The compliance included medical screenings and immunizations. We're not too thrilled with the notion that so many can "jump the line" due to political expediency.
Posted by: kallisto at June 15, 2012 06:28 AM (jm/9g)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 15, 2012 10:26 AM (niZvt)
We're looking for some low-riders.
Posted by: Romney HQ at June 15, 2012 06:29 AM (ggRof)
Posted by: Tom at June 15, 2012 10:25 AM (bgzAd)
YES! That's why it's a smart move and that's why Rubio is the antidote.
Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at June 15, 2012 06:29 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Juan Diego Martinez Gonzales Santana De La Cruz at June 15, 2012 06:29 AM (KcINh)
i say all those country's that have borders should just , suck it! mean nasty border peoples!
the world is everyones, their land is everyones , their assets are everyones!how dare anyone have borders!
Posted by: willow at June 15, 2012 06:29 AM (TomZ9)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 15, 2012 06:29 AM (kdfQ/)
So are these guys going to be bringing back all of those FAF weapons?
Perhaps engaging in a little payback?
May God damn Obama, his wife, and his children.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 15, 2012 06:29 AM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 15, 2012 06:30 AM (136wp)
And there we go again. This is designed to keep the focus away from what counts: the economy. Now everyone is talking about this, and nobody is focusing on what counts. All by design.
And as a legal immigrant, having jumped through all the hoops to comply with all the laws, this is like a slap in my face
Posted by: Ma Bell at June 15, 2012 06:30 AM (uVuwp)
Posted by: Anna Chapman at June 15, 2012 10:29 AM (05RcU)
why yes, we will give you brand new shiny ID , free healthcare, free housing , free food, that those stupid americans will pay for, we're thrilled to have such as you.
Posted by: willow at June 15, 2012 06:30 AM (TomZ9)
Posted by: MrTea at June 15, 2012 06:31 AM (QpR9Y)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 15, 2012 10:26 AM (05RcU)
My sister's partner, a native Australian, has been trying for years to gain citizenship the right way. Been working and going to school, sent back Down Under at least once (maybe twice), and she's super pissed about this sort of stuff. Those two won't vote Republican ever, but this depresses their vote.
This definitely doesn't go over well with those who have been through the process.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at June 15, 2012 06:31 AM (YhjZc)
Perhaps engaging in a little payback?
May God damn Obama, his wife, and his children.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 15, 2012 10:29 AM (Ec6wH)
Barky'O and My Belle I understand, but what the flaming hell did the kids do?
Do realize that you, yourself, would be under judgement for such a comment aligned at mere children.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at June 15, 2012 06:31 AM (unO0f)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 15, 2012 06:31 AM (05RcU)
Now everyone is talking about this, and nobody is focusing on what counts. All by design.
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Oh Im still here.....
Posted by: The 8000 lbs albatros around the Presidents neck at June 15, 2012 06:31 AM (C8hzL)
At least these illegals won't be able to vote...wait..um....well.....nevermind.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 15, 2012 06:32 AM (A5DYE)
Posted by: I have the President's back at June 15, 2012 06:32 AM (4eNxd)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 15, 2012 06:32 AM (136wp)
Posted by: Ma Bell at June 15, 2012 10:30 AM (uVuwp)
yeah, weird isn't it. but welcome (and hooray)!. it's great to get people that respect america and law.
others not so much
Posted by: willow at June 15, 2012 06:33 AM (TomZ9)
Posted by: Thunderb at June 15, 2012 06:33 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at June 15, 2012 06:33 AM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: Snake Pliskin at June 15, 2012 06:33 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: longerthoughts at June 15, 2012 06:33 AM (CVVLU)
So...what else was coming out today...? You know...that this might distract from...?
Posted by: Brother Cavil presents at June 15, 2012 06:33 AM (GBXon)
Posted by: Tom at June 15, 2012 06:33 AM (bgzAd)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 15, 2012 10:28 AM (05RcU)
I'm guessing the kitchen was full of them.
Posted by: rockmom at June 15, 2012 06:33 AM (NYnoe)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 15, 2012 06:34 AM (136wp)
kids up to 30?
well in Dem terms those are just small voting children.
that need everything handed to them as long as they vote right.
Posted by: willow at June 15, 2012 06:34 AM (TomZ9)
Posted by: eman at June 15, 2012 06:34 AM (6KkLK)
I don't think he's worried about losing the Polish illegal alien vote.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at June 15, 2012 06:34 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 15, 2012 06:34 AM (C8mVl)
Posted by: rockmom at June 15, 2012 06:34 AM (NYnoe)
Posted by: Caiwyn at June 15, 2012 06:35 AM (ttktr)
Posted by: dagny at June 15, 2012 06:35 AM (WCAIB)
Posted by: Brother Cavil presents at June 15, 2012 06:35 AM (GBXon)
@113 "My wife came from Denmark, and we've just spent a lot of time and money filling out greencard paperwork and struggling on a single income until she can get work permission."
I'm sure your wife is a lovely woman, but she obviously needs a bottle of hair dye and a couple coats of spray tan to get the All-Access Ticket.
Posted by: Jaws at June 15, 2012 06:35 AM (4I3Uo)
Posted by: amidoinitright at June 15, 2012 06:35 AM (CbzSx)
Posted by: Thunderb at June 15, 2012 06:36 AM (Dnbau)
"Marco Rubio and Lynn Graham need to come out and force-ably oppose this."
And Christina Hendricks needs to give me a BJ and sammich, but that won't happen either.
Mitt's been hitting some sweet spots lately; I'll be very interested to hear how he responds. But it ought to be clear to Team Romney (as if they didn't know) that this signals there is nothing[b/b] off the table with this dog-eating retard.
God's been watching over us for 236 years now. I hope He's not taking a nap in November.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Clitoris at June 15, 2012 06:36 AM (zF6Iw)
I'm curious to see how Romney plays this one.
Will he go on the stump with a copy of the Constitution and offer to read it to Obama if he'd like to learn what's in it?
What will their first commercial be? It should come out before 1:15 today.
Posted by: Roy at June 15, 2012 06:36 AM (bm4vI)
Posted by: dagny at June 15, 2012 10:35 AM (WCAIB)
I'm not much of a fast food person, but I did want to try those. o.o They're pretty good, then?
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at June 15, 2012 06:36 AM (unO0f)
Billy Ray Valentine says:
June 15, 2012 at 10:02 am
Executive Orders (EO) are not enforceable until Congress approves and adopts the measure into the Code of Federal Regulations. I know this, since my fellow co-workers and I tried to use another EO to protect our jobs last year and we were told by our lawyers and the Department of Labor, that since Congress had not validated the EO and approved steps to implement it, we were SOL and could not use the EO to keep our jobs.
This is just another PR stunt to try and support his diminishing support among Latinos
Posted by: shibumi at June 15, 2012 06:36 AM (z63Tr)
Posted by: SH at June 15, 2012 06:37 AM (gmeXX)
Because opposing illegal immigration is anti-Hispanic, donchaknow.
We often have a hard time understanding how wedded people are to identity politics.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 15, 2012 06:38 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 15, 2012 06:38 AM (136wp)
This is going to hurt Obama.
As Mr. Estrada has pointed out, lack of INS enforcement, La Raza getting illegials to vote where there is no ID, etc., these outrages were happening below the radar anyway. All this did is agitate the bases of both parties.
Even the Ronulans now have to admit that there *is* a difference between Romney and Obama. Also, given Mitt's rapid and hard-hitting campaign reactions, I think he's going to line-drive this right down Obama's throat.
Posted by: Warthog at June 15, 2012 06:38 AM (WDySP)
Posted by: typo dynamo at June 15, 2012 06:38 AM (64UiT)
Posted by: dagny at June 15, 2012 06:39 AM (WCAIB)
Posted by: willow at June 15, 2012 10:27 AM (TomZ9)
Thanks Willow! She loves it here. She's still getting used to the medical insurance system (I have her covered under mine) and she finds it very difficult to understand. However, she has said the care she has received has been better than what she received in Denmark.
Posted by: Heralder at June 15, 2012 06:39 AM (+xmn4)
Posted by: Thunderb at June 15, 2012 06:39 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Retread at June 15, 2012 06:39 AM (I2fq9)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at June 15, 2012 06:40 AM (4df7R)
I would wager that your EO was denied pre-Obama, when Congressional approval became an non-requirement!
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 15, 2012 06:40 AM (i3+c5)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 15, 2012 10:34 AM (136wp)
Really the point was about it depressing the enthusiasm of people who have been through or involved with the process. But you're right, she's not a citizen and can't vote. Thanks for clearing me up on that.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at June 15, 2012 06:40 AM (YhjZc)
Posted by: What Next? at June 15, 2012 06:41 AM (v/itI)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 15, 2012 06:41 AM (C8mVl)
Like cigarettes, they are not great at first bite. But they have cocaine in the shell or something since you want them all the time. They have been the most successful fast food product intro evah. That's probably where the "locos" comes in. My 20 yr old eats them for breakfast. $1 ea.
Posted by: dagny at June 15, 2012 06:41 AM (WCAIB)
Posted by: Young Person, Aged 31 at June 15, 2012 06:41 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 15, 2012 06:41 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: polynikes at June 15, 2012 06:42 AM (rY8rX)
Posted by: rockmom at June 15, 2012 06:42 AM (NYnoe)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 15, 2012 06:43 AM (A5DYE)
Posted by: damnnodaks at June 15, 2012 06:43 AM (FzhYM)
Posted by: rockmom at June 15, 2012 10:42 AM (NYnoe)
Good point!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at June 15, 2012 06:43 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at June 15, 2012 06:44 AM (ichgg)
Like cigarettes, they are not great at first bite. But they have cocaine in the shell or something since you want them all the time. They have been the most successful fast food product intro evah. That's probably where the "locos" comes in. My 20 yr old eats them for breakfast. $1 ea.
Posted by: dagny at June 15, 2012 10:41 AM (WCAIB)
...Yeah, I'm gonna go try one today. @_@ Cheap, too! I like cheap.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at June 15, 2012 06:44 AM (unO0f)
Posted by: Lokki at June 15, 2012 06:44 AM (a5F9g)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 15, 2012 06:45 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at June 15, 2012 06:45 AM (ichgg)
I think the meme from the Right should be that Obama istrying to give work permits to all the maids and nannies and gardeners of the Hollywood elite.
But we wouldn't want to incite the Hollywood elite into action against us!
Oh wait...
Posted by: Burn the Witch at June 15, 2012 06:45 AM (YhjZc)
Posted by: I have the President's back at June 15, 2012 06:45 AM (4eNxd)
Good point. I figured it would anyway but didn't think to connect it with this.
This is also likely connected with Florida's pissing match with DHS over illegals, which has been pointed out by countless others.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at June 15, 2012 06:45 AM (e0xKF)
kids up to 30?
well in Dem terms those are just small voting children.
Posted by: willow
Soviet children could only stay in the Komsomol until age 28, so Obama is actually outdoing the Bolshies on this one.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 15, 2012 06:46 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: nickless at June 15, 2012 06:46 AM (MMC8r)
Here is a guy who is willing to blow barrels of political capital on gays (not just marriage, but DADT, etc.) and on Hispanic non-citizens. Both of these are either wildly unpopular with the black community or are to their general economic detriment in a serious way and still he's "on their side."
How, exactly?
Everything he does in favor of blacks is either narrow or cheap. For example, not prosecuting the NBPP. Like most "social justice", what good does it do the average person? It hurts them for several reasons, but the politically powerful-ish allies of the administration get a benefit.
Stating that he'd have a son that looks like Trayvon -- again, cheap.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 15, 2012 06:46 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: SH at June 15, 2012 06:48 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 15, 2012 06:48 AM (MCDCp)
Sounds like they're expecting the Arizona decision to come down on Monday - and it sounds like they're expecting it to go against them.
Posted by: The Mega Independent
A leak to the White House from the Wise Latina? Inconceivable!
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 15, 2012 06:48 AM (kdS6q)
Even though Sotomayor is an imbecile, Kagan turns out to be the more dangerous justice. She doesn't even have basic scruples.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 15, 2012 06:48 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Ma Bell at June 15, 2012 06:48 AM (uVuwp)
Posted by: Thunderb at June 15, 2012 10:36 AM (Dnbau)
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I am not sure most are actually bothered by being unemployed. They only get concerned if they are ethnically-cleansed from their neighborhoods. They'll still vote for Oba'ama.
Posted by: RioBravo at June 15, 2012 06:49 AM (eEfYn)
1) How does this create jobs for out-of-work Americans?
2) How does this improve America's dreadfully lethargic economy?
3) How does this reduce our cancerous federal deficit?
Punch back twice as hard. Stay on the offensive. Stay on topic. Remind people why the SCOAMF is a SCOAMF.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 15, 2012 06:49 AM (wtvvX)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 15, 2012 06:49 AM (MCDCp)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 15, 2012 10:26 AM (niZvt)
Not if the Capitol Hill Police have any say in the matter. Based on my own run-in with them involving a U-Haul box truck in that vicinity in 2006, trust me on this one...
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at June 15, 2012 06:50 AM (7GfKM)
Posted by: Drider at June 15, 2012 06:50 AM (HaJD9)
Posted by: maddogg at June 15, 2012 06:50 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: SH at June 15, 2012 06:50 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Bob Saget at June 15, 2012 06:51 AM (SDkq3)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 15, 2012 06:51 AM (MCDCp)
He sees the loosening of SNAP rules so as to be able to pay for nearly anything, in conjunction with the increase in eligibility, as a direct payout to blacks. If you watch some of the commentary a number of recipients see it that way too. Obama money. Every pay out to the poor is seen in this way.
He said, while still a candidate, that reparations would not pass a vote and would have to be done on the sly.
Posted by: typo dynamo at June 15, 2012 06:51 AM (64UiT)
i srsly don't understand why anyone would want those that decided America was not worth going through any hassle to become american. if those that don't do the basic respect of a countries laws and lawful borders, what does that say about them as future citizns, what other laws are just too stupid to pay attention to? can we just go to their country and say tough , we want what you built with no effort?
we have how many waiting in line going through the paperwork, the visas, the money , the waiting period. WANTING to become a citizen by effort and work!?
so disrespectful.
Posted by: willow at June 15, 2012 06:51 AM (TomZ9)
Posted by: Heralder at June 15, 2012 06:51 AM (+xmn4)
Posted by: Barack "Gollum" Obama at June 15, 2012 06:51 AM (+usC4)
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If Mitt would add "Barrack Obama is a Stuttering Clusterfuck Of A Miserable Failure" to the end of that.... Id wire a month salary to his campaign.
Posted by: fixerupper at June 15, 2012 06:51 AM (C8hzL)
Agree. I live in a border town with around 40% Hispanic population. They are not anti-Republican. They do not care so much about immigration. Jobs, Jobs, Jobs. That is the way for Romney to make inroads in this community.
Posted by: Wilkins at June 15, 2012 06:51 AM (fVgpT)
We are uplifted just knowing he gets to enjoy private concerts from Beyonce.
Posted by: African-Americans for Obama at June 15, 2012 06:51 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 15, 2012 06:52 AM (MCDCp)
Posted by: Bob in Houston at June 15, 2012 06:53 AM (fJoZd)
To harass citizens trying to re-enter from Canada. Duh.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at June 15, 2012 06:53 AM (ZKzrr)
Will the Romney bus circle around the White House, beeping its horn?
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 15, 2012 10:26 AM (niZvt)
Not if the Capitol Hill Police have any say in the matter. Based on my own run-in with them involving a U-Haul box truck in that vicinity in 2006, trust me on this one...
It would be worth the fine. Romney could then make a big show of paying it in person, with his personal check.
Posted by: Retread at June 15, 2012 06:54 AM (I2fq9)
Posted by: nickless at June 15, 2012 06:54 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Bob in Houston at June 15, 2012 10:53 AM (fJoZd) <<<<<
To give the drug dealers someone to use their shiney new Fast and Furious weapons on, come on now.
Posted by: maddogg at June 15, 2012 06:54 AM (OlN4e)
That's what everyone's response should be. I'm much more horrified that Congress is going to sit back and just let this happen than that the SCOAMT tried it.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at June 15, 2012 06:54 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 15, 2012 06:55 AM (05RcU)
Kagan recused herself on this and Wiseass Latina seems to be on the right side of this judging by her questioning of the hapless solicitor general.
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I would find it immensly satisfying if Kagan and the Wise Latina pulled a Souter on the progressives and actually ruled a little more on the side of Constructionist Interpretation.
Hey..... a guy can dream cant he????
Posted by: fixerupper at June 15, 2012 06:55 AM (C8hzL)
<<I'm just a bill
Yes, I'm only a bill
And if they vote for me on Capitol Hill
Well, then I'm off to the White House
Where I'll wait in a line
With a lot of other bills
For the president to sign
And if he signs me, then I'll be a law.
How I hope and pray that he will,
But today I am still just a bill.>>
Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 15, 2012 06:55 AM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: nickless at June 15, 2012 06:55 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at June 15, 2012 06:55 AM (8y9MW)
Yesterday Jugears makes an execrable speech, which was in it's entirety, a poorly worded summation of his previously repeated speeches given three or more years ago. No one was fooled.
He needs to draw attention away from that latest campaign stumble...
And welcome to Friday, and a hastily advanced EO, (which I suspect was in the planning stages anyway...he just needed it now). By Monday, no one on this planet will remember the speech he gave yesterday.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 15, 2012 06:56 AM (L7hol)
Posted by: theCork at June 15, 2012 06:56 AM (iT00L)
I just figure Kagan tells them what decisions are coming down and what the vote will be.
We'll see what Sotomayor does. She may have been trying to "help" the SG. She's so awash in identity politics, I don't see how she can be seen as approving the AZ law. But I may say nice things about her if she seems to be above that sort of thing.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 15, 2012 06:56 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Dave S. at June 15, 2012 06:56 AM (x1L8S)
“Our nation’s immigration laws must be enforced in a firm and sensible manner,” said Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano in a statement Friday.
“But they are not designed to be blindly enforced without consideration given to the individual circumstances of each case. Nor are they designed to remove productive young people to countries where they may not have lived or even speak the language. Discretion, which is used in so many other areas, is especially justified here.”
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 15, 2012 06:56 AM (kdS6q)
Otherwise known as "illegal immigrants".
Posted by: The Mega Independent at June 15, 2012 06:57 AM (ichgg)
Posted by: Tom at June 15, 2012 06:57 AM (bgzAd)
Black unemployment will explore even more now that Hispanics can be hired legally.
Good work Barry, looking out for "your people"
Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at June 15, 2012 06:57 AM (vSiVD)
Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at June 15, 2012 06:58 AM (UU0OF)
Posted by: Marie at June 15, 2012 06:58 AM (P9OJs)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 15, 2012 06:58 AM (C8mVl)
Posted by: What Next? at June 15, 2012 06:58 AM (4TBK2)
Posted by: SH at June 15, 2012 06:58 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: ElijahMarijuana at June 15, 2012 06:58 AM (2hgfV)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 15, 2012 06:59 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 15, 2012 06:59 AM (MCDCp)
Posted by: Not the hill to die on guy at June 15, 2012 06:59 AM (hWFeA)
I guarantee they'll notice this economic slap in the face. There's little love between the blacks and hispanics.
This amnesty shit doesn't play all that well in FL's Cuban community either, and its popularity is split among the hispanics that came through the front door.
A month or two from now after this has soaked in, this will wind up having cost him 5 points.
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at June 15, 2012 06:59 AM (eFtYA)
"Allowed to work." Not so great a deal with real unemployment at 15%.
Posted by: Natasha at June 15, 2012 06:59 AM (jU5uf)
Not counting the records of car theft and gang related activity arrests and convictions as juveniles that have been sealed
Posted by: kbdabear at June 15, 2012 06:59 AM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 15, 2012 06:59 AM (9TTOe)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at June 15, 2012 06:59 AM (mFxQX)
Posted by: nickless at June 15, 2012 06:59 AM (MMC8r)
And rich is always defined as "how much money any Republican made last year minus one dollar."
Posted by: dfbaskwill at June 15, 2012 07:00 AM (ndlFj)
Posted by: Phelps at June 15, 2012 07:01 AM (aeg8g)
Posted by: Pipe Holder at June 15, 2012 07:02 AM (VTeUD)
Posted by: rickl at June 15, 2012 07:02 AM (zoehZ)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at June 15, 2012 07:02 AM (ichgg)
Posted by: Jean at June 15, 2012 07:02 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: Colonel Pooteh at June 15, 2012 07:02 AM (nsT1z)
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at June 15, 2012 07:02 AM (AWmfW)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 15, 2012 07:03 AM (9TTOe)
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at June 15, 2012 07:03 AM (eFtYA)
You do nothing. Because this *is* nothing. This "brilliant political move" is a Hail Mary pass, and not even a very good one. In terms of getting actual illegals to vote it will make no difference whatsoever since the EO can't grant citizenship with voting rights. Yeah, illegals vote illegally, but that's always been going on. The only thing this *might* do is... what? Knock hispanic turnout up a tick? Psh. Who cares? If it's noticed enough to do that it'll knock the working class white vote and rural white vote down a tick too. Of course, in all likelihood, the effect it will have on the white and hispanic votes will be... precisely nothing.
This is a yawner, folks. Move along. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Economy. Economy. Economy. ObamaCare. ObamaCare. ObamaCare.
Posted by: Mr. Estrada at June 15, 2012 07:03 AM (a/Pps)
Posted by: f2000 at June 15, 2012 07:03 AM (FcMtg)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 15, 2012 07:04 AM (C8mVl)
GTFO, and take the SCOAMF with you!
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 15, 2012 07:04 AM (8MasJ)
Posted by: SH at June 15, 2012 10:50 AM (gmeXX)
Thread winner.
Week winner.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 15, 2012 07:05 AM (nEUpB)
It will get worse, here's how:
At some point, it will be lost. Obama's numbers will regularly show him losing by at least 5 points and even though his minions will be temporarily buoyed by his convention bounce, it won't last. The EV map will be red enough to guarantee a Romney win.
So what happens? Well, he has nothing to lose and he'll be going into legacy mode. He'll do much more of this, not with the intention of winning the election but of rallying the base and getting votes for Congressional candidates.
The rewriting of the Obama years, BTW, will be maddening. He will be socialist in retrospect and that will be spun as a good thing.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 15, 2012 07:05 AM (T0NGe)
Hmmm... a bit torn on your point, r. devil- should our side be scrupulous about observing rules that the other side has collectively taken a runny shite upon?
There's something to be said for observing civilized norms, virtue is its own reward and so forth. But to paraphrase the masthead above, might be time to hoist the black flag and fight as foul as the braindead rabble opposing us. Something about saving a republic comes to mind...
I say have the Ozzie vote, if they're going to vote our way- that's one for us, 800,000 or so for them. Every bit helps, I reckon.
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at June 15, 2012 07:05 AM (ksERZ)
No changes I suspect. All the unemployment shit is largely based on household survey rather than actual real data, and that won't change.
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at June 15, 2012 07:05 AM (eFtYA)
Posted by: SH at June 15, 2012 07:05 AM (gmeXX)
Hear, hear. This is just to rile up the KosKids. But as we see it equally riles up the Moron Horde.
Posted by: Wilkins at June 15, 2012 07:05 AM (fVgpT)
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 15, 2012 07:05 AM (lZBBB)
And how many of these "youths" are Islamist scum?
No thanks.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 15, 2012 07:06 AM (nEUpB)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 15, 2012 07:06 AM (05RcU)
Sad part? My 83 year old Mom thought this was a GOOD thing... even after I pointed out the Constitutional implications, she said, 'well, they've been doing it for a long time anyway...'
/facepalm
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 15, 2012 07:06 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 15, 2012 07:06 AM (9TTOe)
The president is extending protection to young undocumented workers who have lived here their whole lives and are really Americans. They've been afraid to stick their heads above ground. The administration expects some push-back from some members of congress
Posted by: dagny at June 15, 2012 07:07 AM (WCAIB)
Posted by: Big Johansson at June 15, 2012 07:07 AM (aZcPb)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 15, 2012 07:08 AM (SB0V2)
Posted by: Drider at June 15, 2012 07:08 AM (HaJD9)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 15, 2012 07:08 AM (9TTOe)
You don't order in spanish? Hell, I've been doing that for years.
Posted by: dagny at June 15, 2012 07:08 AM (WCAIB)
This is all hat and no ranch. Think about this. As reported, this will be impossible to enforce. How does an illegal immigrant document they have been here for five years? Why will they even make the effort? They don't get drivers licenses, why are we to believe they will go through a painfully application for a visa that only lasts two years?
This whole thing is total bullshit.
Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at June 15, 2012 07:09 AM (vSiVD)
Posted by: Sean at June 15, 2012 07:09 AM (1jv9o)
I'm not sure that Obama gives a rat's ass about congressional candidates. He hasn't demonstrated party loyalty in the past, so why would you interpret this as a sop to his fellow Democrats?
I think this is just one more step on the road to the destruction of the United States as a unique country. That has been his goal since he was a teenaged stoner experimenting with homosexuality and his legacy of radicalism.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 15, 2012 07:09 AM (nEUpB)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 15, 2012 07:09 AM (SB0V2)
To harass citizens trying to re-enter from Canada. Duh.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at June 15, 2012 10:53
Boy, ain't that the truth.
"Where are you headed?"
"Wherever the fuck I feel like, Scooter. I'm a fucking citizen. Where I go in MY country is MY business."
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 15, 2012 07:09 AM (Yvlb0)
Posted by: Bob in Houston at June 15, 2012 07:09 AM (fJoZd)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 15, 2012 07:10 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Tom at June 15, 2012 07:10 AM (bgzAd)
Posted by: Tom at June 15, 2012 07:11 AM (bgzAd)
I don't think there's that many illegal arabs here, and they'd have to register anyway by law.
http://www.sss.gov/default.htm
ATTENTION, UNDOCUMENTED MALES
& IMMIGRANT SERVICING GROUPS!
Selective Service does not collect any information which would indicate whether or not you are undocumented. You want to protect yourself for future U.S. citizenship and other government benefits and programs by registering with Selective Service. Do it today.
If you are a man ages 18 through 25 and living in the U.S., then you must register with Selective Service. ItÂ’s the law. According to law, a man must register with Selective Service within 30 days of his 18th birthday. Selective Service will accept late registrations but not after a man has reached age 26. You may be denied benefits or a job if you have not registered.Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at June 15, 2012 07:11 AM (eFtYA)
Are you fucking kidding me??? She was talking about them as if they were a slave race, as if thats all they will ever be. She didn't say the ones who may become doctors or scientists, she placed them right into the role of servant. I guess old habits die hard with the dems, they will always be the slavery party. The hispanics better fucking wake up, the dems are not their freind.
Posted by: Berserker at June 15, 2012 07:11 AM (FMbng)
The kids in the sob stories about graduating HS or college and having to lie on their I-9 to get a job are going to have school records.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at June 15, 2012 07:11 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at June 15, 2012 07:11 AM (136wp)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 15, 2012 07:11 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 15, 2012 07:12 AM (C8mVl)
I wonder what the kids sinking under student loan debt think of not only illegals getting a ticket to college, but a free ride there too.
Probably don't like it much, but they'll still vote for Obama. He's hip and their favorite celebrities and musicians tell them Obama will save them
Posted by: kbdabear at June 15, 2012 07:12 AM (Y+DPZ)
^Exactly.
At least I'm not the only one who sees the obvious. I guess the right has to get themselves eeyoreish over something though.
Posted by: Mr. Estrada at June 15, 2012 07:12 AM (a/Pps)
Posted by: I have King John's & the President's back at June 15, 2012 07:12 AM (4eNxd)
There are 30 million active conservatives who are not registered to vote. Look up your friends and relatives and get them registered. It's the only way we're going to win.
Posted by: RushBabe at June 15, 2012 07:12 AM (tQHzJ)
So, with the 1000th law broken by this administration, and the recent abundant evidences that the legal system of this nation is totally FUBAR, are we ready yet to state the obvious?
We are now subject to an illegitimate government. We have to obey the law because of the state's coercive power, but the moral obligation to obey has been torn to tatters. The law is just a tool used to beat your enemies, now. Hopefully the next Republican administration will remember this, and either lead the effort to fix it, or use it ruthlessly to smash the libtards. Either option is OK with me.
Posted by: Reactionary at June 15, 2012 07:12 AM (xUM1Q)
You're a citizen of Mexico? Live in Mexico. Look, I know Mexico sucks, but lots of Mexicans would love to be Americans, it's not "humane" to benefit just a few of them.
Either annexation or nothing. Mexico is, in fact, a real country.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 15, 2012 07:13 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: well now at June 15, 2012 07:13 AM (vaQHw)
Can they vote (legally) with work permits? I think not.
I honestly have mixed feelings regarding those who were brought here illegally as children...especially those who have lived as productive and law-abiding citizens since then. However, an action of this signifigance is way beyond what any one man or woman as President should ever be allowed. This type of decision is custom made for Congress, and Obama knows it. He is desperate, but even more this demonstrates his contempt for the position he was elected to, the American political system and Constitution, and the American people.
He obviously thinks he's being smart here...diverting attention from his record and the economy, where he loses. His polling must make him feel more confident framing more of the campaign on this issue and forcing the Republican's hand. Mitt has to be smart here, but the Republican campaign forced Romney to pidgeon-hole himself on immigration. The Rubio element will be interesting. Republicans need to hit back hard on both the issues of the power grab Obama has just attempted plus the effect on the economy for young Americans that the baby boomers have just been putting through college.
Posted by: MostlyRight at June 15, 2012 07:13 AM (ZG8Ti)
Posted by: Berserker at June 15, 2012 11:11 AM (FMbng)
Preach it, Brotha!
Posted by: Inner city black population at June 15, 2012 07:14 AM (FIDMq)
Stay focused, Mitt dudes. Stay focused.
I'm pretty fucking focused on the fact that Obama is President, not a God King.
Great. Now I bit through the other side of my tongue trying not to scream the only appropriate response to this.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 15, 2012 07:14 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 15, 2012 07:14 AM (Agn5J)
Posted by: dagny at June 15, 2012 07:15 AM (WCAIB)
He doesn't, but he cares about his legacy and power base. If he doesn't cultivate one soon, he'll be the President-that-shall-not-be-named.
Look at the power base Clinton has, even now.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 15, 2012 07:15 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Tom at June 15, 2012 11:10 AM (bgzAd)
Yeah, so did the rainbow halo. That was a real optical victory for him. I hope he keeps all this optical stuff up. It's working wonderfully.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at June 15, 2012 07:15 AM (ichgg)
Posted by: Drider at June 15, 2012 07:16 AM (HaJD9)
O/T, but the burger place in Ridgewood finally opened. I spoke with the owner who was livid that his business was delayed by almost two years because of regulatory bullshit.
Example: They demanded a separate permit for the signs that were applied to the windows.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 15, 2012 07:16 AM (nEUpB)
"Enhance your calm... in a fire?"
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at June 15, 2012 07:16 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: The People of Brattleboro, Vermont at June 15, 2012 07:16 AM (48wze)
Now I bit through the other side of my tongue trying not to scream the only appropriate response to this.
The appropriate response is to ECONOMY, ECONOMY, ECONOMY. And then we win. And then come the screams from the other side.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 15, 2012 07:16 AM (B+qrE)
Unless Mumia's got a boatload of cash to buy that pardon, Obama ain't gonna do shit for him because he could have done it already and it would have only been a minor blip 3 years ago.
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at June 15, 2012 07:17 AM (eFtYA)
Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at June 15, 2012 07:17 AM (UU0OF)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 15, 2012 07:17 AM (9TTOe)
I guess it would be impolite to report stories on illegals who belong to gangs who gun down honor students who were collateral damage in a drive by
Posted by: kbdabear at June 15, 2012 07:17 AM (Y+DPZ)
Maybe. I just envision him going out in a Clinton-esque blaze of glory.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 15, 2012 07:17 AM (Agn5J)
Sounds fun.
And we could lead em over the bridge once they're tired into the National Zoo (which actually doesn't have rhinos now).
Cross posted because you morons moved.
Posted by: DaveA at June 15, 2012 07:18 AM (NqmTy)
" To be clear, it shows how weak Obama is. He's blowing off white working class voters but he's going to lose them anyway. He needs to rally his base to hold what he has."
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And THIS is exactly how Mittens and the RNC needs to frame this bogus debate.
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Its on!! Shit just got real!
Posted by: dananjcon at June 15, 2012 07:18 AM (eavT+)
Mitt needs to Frame this as a Constitutional Issue, and come out HARD against it.
Obama thinks, that with Congress's weak approval numbers, that he can run against a 'Do nothing' Congress.. and he is having to do this kind of thing to 'get stuff done' (as he has stated before)...
But as low as Congress's approval numbers are, the Constitution is still pretty dang popular.... so you point out THIS in your first Ad.... then the Illegal Wars... then Unconsitutional EPA Regs... then the Oil Drilling in the Gulf contempt stuff...
Start the ad with him saying 'support and defend the Consitution'... then the issue... then end with... 'do you trust a man who does not keep his OATH to GOD?"
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 15, 2012 07:18 AM (lZBBB)
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Willing? Democrats NEED them to be a part of the permanent underclass.
Posted by: mediumheadboy at June 15, 2012 07:18 AM (x2CNJ)
Posted by: someguy at June 15, 2012 07:18 AM (sEXZ/)
I think that you are assuming a level of analysis that Obama simply does not possess.
I think he is acting as the petulant, spoiled child that he has been his entire life.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 15, 2012 07:18 AM (nEUpB)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 15, 2012 07:20 AM (Agn5J)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at June 15, 2012 07:20 AM (x2CNJ)
Posted by: Clemenza at June 15, 2012 07:21 AM (fCSfn)
Posted by: BP NJ at June 15, 2012 07:21 AM (ph70Q)
Disagree. Jobs, economy, jobs, economy, jobs, economy.
Posted by: Wilkins at June 15, 2012 07:21 AM (fVgpT)
Hmmm.... new thought....
Does this mean that the Obama camp KNOWS that Rubio is the VP pick? So they are stealing HIS issue???
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 15, 2012 07:21 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: mrp at June 15, 2012 11:17 AM (HjPtV)
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FIFY
Posted by: dananjcon at June 15, 2012 07:22 AM (eavT+)
Any lawyer types around?
Can Obama (pbuh) pardon a convicted murderer who is on death row? Will he then be released?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 15, 2012 07:22 AM (nEUpB)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at June 15, 2012 11:20 AM
Bring in the mass drivers!!
Posted by: Berserker at June 15, 2012 07:22 AM (FMbng)
we MUST force them to do what's good for them.
it's our duty.
Posted by: The Ruling Class at June 15, 2012 07:22 AM (jdOk/)
It takes 20 or 30 years to happen, but eventually properties decline, slums develop, and owners walk away as the tax burden and inability to collect enough rents to cover taxes and maintenance increases.
I walked away from one property in Troy NY's "crack town". The govt assessed it at $90k, but you literally couldn't give it away for $5k and all the tenants caused more damage that you could ever collect in rent. The only sane response was to stop paying the taxes and let them take it back.
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at June 15, 2012 07:22 AM (eFtYA)
Posted by: Clemenza at June 15, 2012 07:23 AM (fCSfn)
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 15, 2012 11:21 AM (lZBBB)
Maybe he needs to find another pick, them? There are a million more important issues facing this country besides the DREAM Act, or some other permutation of it.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 15, 2012 07:23 AM (Agn5J)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 15, 2012 07:23 AM (MCDCp)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 15, 2012 07:23 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: HoundOfDoom at June 15, 2012 07:23 AM (KhioZ)
Posted by: Arne Duncan at June 15, 2012 07:23 AM (gC30A)
Dear Mr. President thank you for another kick in the teeth. Granting pardons to criminals who broke our immigration laws at a time when unemployment has stayed over 8% for most of your term. I do not care that they were dragged here by their law breaking parents, after the age of 18 they are adults and chose to stay here - they are criminals also. November can not come fast enough so we the American People can repudiate your odious ill-intentions.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 15, 2012 07:24 AM (LJjLh)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 15, 2012 07:24 AM (C8mVl)
Posted by: Barack Obama at June 15, 2012 07:24 AM (Agn5J)
Posted by: blaster at June 15, 2012 07:24 AM (7vSU0)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 15, 2012 07:24 AM (MCDCp)
Disagree. Jobs, economy, jobs, economy, jobs, economy.
Posted by: Wilkins at June 15, 2012 11:21 AM (fVgpT)
Yeah... who cares about that pesky Constitution.... let the Precedent stand without a fight... allow the last vestige of the ideal that we are a Republice with a Government based on enumerated powers die on the alter of winning an election...
/sadly shakes head...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 15, 2012 07:24 AM (lZBBB)
Adapting the "script" I saw above:
"There are 3.(something) million people in America looking for work. Today, Barack Obama announced a plan to address that problem.
In an Unconstitutional Usurpation of Congressional Power, he has decreed, by fiat, that the borders are open to hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants to compete yet further for American jobs."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at June 15, 2012 07:24 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: rockmom at June 15, 2012 07:24 AM (NYnoe)
These people are very out of touch and live in their DC bubble. They've been batting this around in the bubble and now that it rises to the surface and pops - everyone will agree it stinks. This might work in a decent economy, but not the crappy one Obama has given us.
Valerie Jarrett - the gift that keeps on giving. Just keep that creepy piranha mouth yapping.
Posted by: Dang at June 15, 2012 07:24 AM (Ky1+e)
All of Clinton's pardons were bought and paid for with serious donations to his library and shit like that.
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at June 15, 2012 07:24 AM (eFtYA)
Hey! Check the bylaws. The rule is no math before noon.
Posted by: Public School Educated at June 15, 2012 07:24 AM (nEUpB)
Posted by: Sean at June 15, 2012 07:24 AM (1jv9o)
Posted by: Wilkins at June 15, 2012 07:25 AM (fVgpT)
Posted by: Sandra el puta lezbo Fluke at June 15, 2012 07:25 AM (MCDCp)
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at June 15, 2012 11:24 AM (eFtYA)
And whores. Don't forget the whores.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 15, 2012 07:25 AM (Agn5J)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 15, 2012 07:26 AM (9TTOe)
Posted by: HoundOfDoom at June 15, 2012 11:23 AM (KhioZ)
Message: I Don't Care
Posted by: rockmom at June 15, 2012 07:26 AM (NYnoe)
You have never eaten a taco in your whole life.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 15, 2012 07:26 AM (nEUpB)
"Enhance your calm... in a fire?"
More like a variant of relations with a maternal unit.
Nuke Brattleboro, Vermont, from orbit!
No making me laugh while I'm trying to be filled with rage! Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to commence being filled with chocolate chip cookies instead of rage.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 15, 2012 07:26 AM (VtjlW)
+1.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 15, 2012 07:26 AM (Agn5J)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at June 15, 2012 07:27 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Clemenza at June 15, 2012 07:27 AM (fCSfn)
And Hillary's Senate seat. I have more respect for the whores.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at June 15, 2012 07:27 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Wilkins at June 15, 2012 07:27 AM (fVgpT)
Is this Obamas way of paying off the Mexican peoples for being accomplises to MURDER?
Pretty cheap price to pay for the slaughter of innocents!
Ask your Justice Dept. to comply with ALL subpenas and quit stonewalling Mr President, this looks like a shady payoff or perhaps the price of blackmail?
Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at June 15, 2012 07:27 AM (vXqv3)
Posted by: MLCross at June 15, 2012 07:27 AM (vJUsG)
There is also another way to read this:
They know what the Supremes verdict on THE THING will be.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 15, 2012 07:27 AM (B+qrE)
Opens at 4:00pm for another week or so, then they will open for lunch.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 15, 2012 07:27 AM (nEUpB)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at June 15, 2012 11:27 AM (ZKzrr)
Please don't use "Hillary" and "seat" in the same sentence. *shudder*
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 15, 2012 07:28 AM (Agn5J)
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 15, 2012 07:28 AM (i3+c5)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 15, 2012 11:26 AM (nEUpB)
I have been stuffed by a guy named Chimichanga, ina a bathhouse, though.
Posted by: Barakhenaten I at June 15, 2012 07:28 AM (BIRhA)
House Judiciary Committee Chairman Lamar Smith (R-TX) issued this statement
“President Obama’s decision to grant amnesty to potentially millions of illegal immigrants is a breach of faith with the American people. It also blatantly ignores the rule of law that is the foundation of our democracy. This huge policy shift has horrible consequences for unemployed Americans looking for jobs and violates President Obama’s oath to uphold the laws of this land.
“President Obama’s amnesty only benefits illegal immigrants, not Americans, and is a magnet for fraud. Many illegal immigrants will falsely claim they came here as children and the federal government has no way to check whether their claims are true. And once these illegal immigrants are granted deferred action, they can then apply for a work permit, which the Administration routinely grants 90% of the time.
“How can the Administration justify allowing illegal immigrants to work in the U.S. when millions of Americans are unemployed? President Obama and his administration once again have put partisan politics and illegal immigrants ahead of the rule of law and the American people. With this track record, it’s looking more likely that even President Obama may lose his job in this economy when Americans go to the polls this November.”
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 15, 2012 07:28 AM (kdS6q)
a) Intercourse with Hillary Rodham Clinton
b) Banging some skanky hooker he picks up on 125th St.
Can we blame Bill?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 15, 2012 07:29 AM (nEUpB)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 15, 2012 11:23 AM (Agn5J)
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Exactly...for obvious reasons people don't have the patience for this nonsense. This the last gasp of a SCOAMF. I predict backlash and tears.
***
We will revel in the lemon-tay-shuns of there woman. And dip in the sweetest nectar of creamy dessert snacks.
Posted by: dananjcon at June 15, 2012 07:29 AM (eavT+)
Posted by: dananjcon at June 15, 2012 11:29 AM (eavT+)
There's always room for Jell-O!
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 15, 2012 07:30 AM (Agn5J)
Posted by: Adrian at June 15, 2012 07:30 AM (F4Szr)
Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at June 15, 2012 11:27 AM (vXqv3)
Hey. I murdered Quadafy and Bin Laden, too!
Posted by: Barakhenaten I at June 15, 2012 07:30 AM (BIRhA)
Or we could let the folks who gave the WTC bombers their visas six months after 9/11 handle it.
I did have some college students who were caught in this bind, but, sorry, work in Mexico a while and come back legally! Or go to the alley behind the DMV and get some fake ID for 50 bucks. Life isn't perfect all the time.
Posted by: PJ at June 15, 2012 07:31 AM (DQHjw)
Posted by: HoboJerky at June 15, 2012 07:31 AM (xAtAj)
Posted by: someguy at June 15, 2012 07:31 AM (sEXZ/)
Some immigrants. So you mean they might not deport my grandparents who came here legally?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 15, 2012 07:31 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: AmishDude at June 15, 2012 10:56 AM (T0NGe)
I think this is one of the biggest unreported stories of this administration, the way people were reporting the healthcare decision it seemed like she was definitely leaking to the White House.
Posted by: Adrian at June 15, 2012 07:32 AM (F4Szr)
It's not that. Romney will probably address this, then go back on message...which Obama and Co. would very much like him not to do. First rule of politics....don't let the opposition write your play book.
As someone else pointed out earlier, address the constitutional issues, then fold this into the larger jobs, and economy issues.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 15, 2012 07:32 AM (L7hol)
How many Islamic terrorists will now get Green Cards as Jorge Lopez because of this?
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 15, 2012 07:32 AM (LJjLh)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 15, 2012 07:32 AM (C8mVl)
Hmmm.... and is this not blatant Age Discrimination?
I'm sure that there are Illegals here, older than 30, who went to High School here.. as this has been a problem for Generations.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 15, 2012 07:32 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain at June 15, 2012 07:33 AM (bj+Nc)
Posted by: Tea Party Caucus at June 15, 2012 07:33 AM (mWijP)
Posted by: old glazier at June 15, 2012 07:33 AM (KcINh)
Posted by: Retread at June 15, 2012 07:34 AM (I2fq9)
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at June 15, 2012 07:34 AM (YSyyZ)
And if you want to be mad at someone, be mad at the parent(s) who made you a victim of their crime when you were young.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at June 15, 2012 07:34 AM (ZKzrr)
Will someone get Boehner out of the bar over at Congressional
I volunteer to go get him. V and Ts ahoy!
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 15, 2012 07:35 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 15, 2012 07:35 AM (LJjLh)
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at June 15, 2012 07:35 AM (YSyyZ)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 15, 2012 07:35 AM (9TTOe)
Barry made this move now because the fallout from the ruling will irradiate the political battlefield for weeks to come.
Posted by: mrp at June 15, 2012 07:36 AM (HjPtV)
Posted by: Anachronda at June 15, 2012 07:36 AM (xGZ+b)
If you can't produce a birth certificate and photo ID like almost every US citizen already has, no free taxpayer goodies for YOU!!
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 15, 2012 07:36 AM (i3+c5)
Democrats playing the long game: permanent socialist majority by 2035.
Well, let's see if we don't run off the financial cliff first.
Posted by: HoboJerky at June 15, 2012 07:36 AM (xAtAj)
Posted by: Drider at June 15, 2012 07:36 AM (HaJD9)
Posted by: Janet Napolitano at June 15, 2012 11:36 AM (DrWcr)
Dammit Janet! No taco for you!
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 15, 2012 07:37 AM (LJjLh)
Posted by: Clemenza at June 15, 2012 07:37 AM (fCSfn)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 15, 2012 07:38 AM (9TTOe)
Posted by: M. Twain at June 15, 2012 07:38 AM (LTquJ)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 15, 2012 11:32 AM (LJjLh)
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Exactly..when does it end. Where is the line in the sand?
Posted by: dananjcon at June 15, 2012 07:38 AM (eavT+)
Posted by: someguy at June 15, 2012 07:38 AM (sEXZ/)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 15, 2012 07:38 AM (C8mVl)
Posted by: John McCain at June 15, 2012 07:39 AM (0d0K7)
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at June 15, 2012 11:35 AM (YSyyZ)
I think it is possible for a Member of Congress to file a writ with SCOTUS to force President to obey and enforce the law. Not sure if it's ever been done.
Posted by: rockmom at June 15, 2012 07:39 AM (qE3AR)
White House/ MSM campaign collusion continues.
Posted by: lael at June 15, 2012 07:39 AM (nNjlJ)
That'll teach me to oversleep.
And double-damnit that I am tempted to concede that, strategically, this was a brilliant move on their part: Panders to Hispanics and takes Rubio out of the running. Then again, I didn't want Rubio as V.P. and I think they may have over-estimated the number of voters who did, so they may well have simply reinforced the image of a boy king run amok for very little gain.
How are they going to undermine all the others such as Martinez?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 15, 2012 07:40 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Henrik Von Ericson Jesus Lopez III at June 15, 2012 07:40 AM (eavT+)
Posted by: Max Entropy at June 15, 2012 07:40 AM (yEAGN)
Angry campaigning does not win elections.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at June 15, 2012 07:41 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: dagny at June 15, 2012 07:41 AM (WCAIB)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 15, 2012 07:41 AM (LJjLh)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 15, 2012 07:41 AM (9TTOe)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 15, 2012 07:41 AM (C8mVl)
Posted by: Country Singer at June 15, 2012 07:42 AM (L8r/r)
(further: even if it was in the works, how in the world is Rubio so tone deaf that he can't hear how much the GOP base opposes anything without enforcement first?)
Posted by: RoyalOil at June 15, 2012 10:24 AM (kSaUf)
If Rubio was trying to lead a change in the party all by his itty-bitty lonesome, he deserves to have the rug pulled out from under him.
Rand Paul for V.P.!
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 15, 2012 07:42 AM (piMMO)
He's much more libertarian than the R's in general today. He's a team player. Do it.
Posted by: HoboJerky at June 15, 2012 07:42 AM (xAtAj)
Posted by: eric holder of dics at June 15, 2012 11:37 AM (hiMsy)
They don't want no stinkin work permits they git paid for makin babies and robbing pillaging and raping!
HiHo HiHo its off to pillage I go, er wait stop by the mailboxes so s I can git my check!
Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at June 15, 2012 07:42 AM (vXqv3)
Start packing pal...you're on your way out.
Posted by: mpfs at June 15, 2012 07:42 AM (iYbLN)
*****
So your, what, 1/32 Viking?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 15, 2012 07:43 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 15, 2012 07:43 AM (LJjLh)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 15, 2012 07:44 AM (9TTOe)
Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at June 15, 2012 11:42 AM (vXqv3)
Not funny.
If you are going to be racist it should at least be funny.
Posted by: HoboJerky at June 15, 2012 07:45 AM (xAtAj)
>>>that he knew something like this was in the works and was trying to get
>>>out front and put a GOP badge on it?
Well Rubio can come out and decry the Presidents action as an usurpation of power and have tremendous credibility in doing so *because* he sponsored a version of this act.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at June 15, 2012 07:45 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: baracka obama at June 15, 2012 07:45 AM (Oh2BY)
"This is a classic Barack Obama move of choosing politics over leadership," Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-South Carolina, said on Twitter. "This decision avoids dealing with Congress and the American people instead of fixing a broken immigration system once and for all."
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 15, 2012 07:45 AM (kdS6q)
Which is precisely how Romney should describe this.
Hey, Joe Sixpack! Hello, Jane Workaday! Not only has Obamanomics delivered a rate of job creation that's below the rate of population growth, but now, thanks to Obama, ordinary working stiffs like you also get to compete against a bunch of newly legit illegals for the scant handful of available jobs.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 15, 2012 07:46 AM (g2X0m)
He's much more libertarian than the R's in general today. He's a team player. Do it.
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If Axelrod is mistaken into believing that we viewed Rubio as some sort of moderate savior to our party, then we need to swing even farther right. Paul would send that message.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 15, 2012 07:46 AM (piMMO)
How do you know that? He didn't turn Massachusetts into a sanctuary state. Do you have special knowledge the rest of us don't?
Posted by: Sean at June 15, 2012 07:46 AM (1jv9o)
Posted by: Pyrocles at June 15, 2012 07:47 AM (cv5Iw)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 15, 2012 07:47 AM (SB0V2)
****
He just tweeted:
'Hope' and 'change' have become bait and switch
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 15, 2012 07:47 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Vegan Meatball at June 15, 2012 11:43 AM (yn6XZ)
---------------------------------------------------
So I mean nothing to you? Nothing to see here, move along?
Posted by: The Constitution at June 15, 2012 07:47 AM (O7Q1u)
Posted by: blaster at June 15, 2012 07:48 AM (7vSU0)
So your, what, 1/32 Viking?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 15, 2012 11:43 AM (piMMO)
**
Eh..C.
Posted by: Henrik Von Ericson Jesus Lopez III at June 15, 2012 07:49 AM (eavT+)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 15, 2012 07:49 AM (LJjLh)
Well Rubio can come out and decry the Presidents action as an usurpation of power and have tremendous credibility in doing so *because* he sponsored a version of this act.
****
Any rebuke by Rubio at this point will wreak of insincerity.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 15, 2012 07:49 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at June 15, 2012 07:50 AM (YSyyZ)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 15, 2012 07:50 AM (LJjLh)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 15, 2012 07:51 AM (LJjLh)
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at June 15, 2012 07:52 AM (YSyyZ)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 15, 2012 07:53 AM (9TTOe)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 15, 2012 07:54 AM (C8mVl)
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at June 15, 2012 11:50 AM (YSyyZ)
Sorry, I took an OATH to Defend the Constitution agains all Enemies, Foreign and Domestic...
That Oath did NOT come with an expiration date.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 15, 2012 07:54 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: tmitsss at June 15, 2012 07:54 AM (V4Pya)
Posted by: Clemenza at June 15, 2012 07:55 AM (fCSfn)
I don't believe it would paint Rubio as being insincere, since he's the one who is proposing actual legislation, within Congress' constitutionally enumerated powers. Calling out the President for circumventing congress is neither hypocritical, or insincere.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 15, 2012 07:55 AM (L7hol)
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at June 15, 2012 07:56 AM (3346+)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 15, 2012 07:56 AM (SB0V2)
Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at June 15, 2012 07:56 AM (RD7QR)
This is trying to regenerate a so called mandate from the people Team Obama seeks. However, it won't work. The is too duplicitous and people have become disenchanted with gimmicks and near depression era unemployment and an administration running wide open.
I sure hope Issa and company after this, do NOT agree to meet with Holder on anything and continue demanding full compliance with congress.
Posted by: Journolist at June 15, 2012 07:56 AM (QWOh7)
Posted by: Clemenza at June 15, 2012 07:57 AM (fCSfn)
Posted by: Drider at June 15, 2012 07:57 AM (HaJD9)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 15, 2012 07:57 AM (C8mVl)
Maybe, but it is VERY important to get him into place because it means getting the SCOAMF out before he can do more of this shit.
If Romney can't get it together in 4 years, we have a deep bench of candidates who could replace him while the Dems are pretty much down to Biden, Hillary, and Cuomo at the moment.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at June 15, 2012 07:57 AM (e0xKF)
'I'm not exploiting race'
we say 'BULLSHIT! BULLSHIT!'
Right in Derp Fuhrer's face!"
Posted by: Sgt. York at June 15, 2012 07:57 AM (pqW4Y)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 15, 2012 07:57 AM (B+qrE)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at June 15, 2012 07:58 AM (i330i)
So the newly legal can work. At what jobs? There aren't any jobs! The teenage umemployment rate just started going up again.
I guess they can bus them to the polls and pick up some instant-register-votes.
;;;;
This is a dare to the Republicans. Resist this, and you are a guess-what.
Posted by: Meremortal at June 15, 2012 07:59 AM (jTKU5)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 15, 2012 07:59 AM (SB0V2)
But here is the real damn pisser. I had to make that emergency trip into town because I forgot that quarterly taxes are due today and I could not rely on pickup by the rural rout mailman to get my envelope post marked.
I still have to pay outrageous taxes are have everything I own confiscated and go to jail. Yet Barky and Rangle can violate the law with impunity and laugh at us.
Posted by: Vic at June 15, 2012 07:59 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at June 15, 2012 11:17 AM (UU0OF)
Yeah, apparently after one renewal you can apply for permanent residence. That ought to be exciting.
Posted by: Heralder at June 15, 2012 07:59 AM (+xmn4)
****
You are correct in that he should attack the method, but I do believe he is done-for as a contender for V.P. He can rebuke the method but then it opens the issue itself to debate, pitting him against his party.
You just know Axelrod has a chart with 'if this then that' drawn out with every conceivable scenario.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 15, 2012 08:00 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: bernverdnardo at June 15, 2012 08:01 AM (xXhWA)
Posted by: Vegan Meatball at June 15, 2012 11:43 AM (yn6XZ)
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Axelrod is in the house, with more of his pungent commentary on the American scene.
Posted by: Meremortal at June 15, 2012 08:01 AM (jTKU5)
How exactly are these new no-longer-illegal workers going to take jobs away from citizens and legal residents? If they already have the jobs then they already have the jobs, all this is doing is formalizing it.
Except now, because these people are legal, their employers will be required to identify them and pay all required employment and payroll taxes and comply with all labor laws (including sexual harassment). Which means that with the stroke of a pen employers don't have as much incentive to hire the no-longer-illegal workers. Which means that many will likely go out and hire still-illegal workers or brand-new-illegal workers who are likely at this moment getting their asses across the border as quickly as they can.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at June 15, 2012 08:02 AM (JxMoP)
Posted by: It's The Constitution, Stupid! at June 15, 2012 08:02 AM (aZrqG)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 15, 2012 08:02 AM (C8mVl)
Thats easy, you just have to take their word for it since it would be racist to actually ask them for the documentation.
Posted by: Bob in Houston at June 15, 2012 08:02 AM (fJoZd)
Posted by: willow at June 15, 2012 08:02 AM (TomZ9)
Posted by: moki at June 15, 2012 08:02 AM (dZmFh)
****
I don't need to take a deep breath. I still hope he's in consideration.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 15, 2012 08:03 AM (piMMO)
Exactly. He just wants to get them talking about something on the Sunday shows other than the economy.
Posted by: Sean at June 15, 2012 08:03 AM (1jv9o)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 15, 2012 08:03 AM (9TTOe)
*****
bonus! 30 year old anchor babies!
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 15, 2012 08:03 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Y-not at June 15, 2012 08:03 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Y-not at June 15, 2012 08:04 AM (5H6zj)
Romney Camp.
As Drew M. pointed out, stay focused on jobs and economy and jobs and economy and jobs and economy.
Take over the news cycle and don't get sucked into this diversion.
Posted by: Journolist at June 15, 2012 08:04 AM (QWOh7)
****
The silence was deafening.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 15, 2012 08:05 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Y-not at June 15, 2012 08:05 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: moki at June 15, 2012 08:06 AM (dZmFh)
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at June 15, 2012 08:06 AM (YSyyZ)
Obama is searching for a mandate. This is not a winning mandate. And will not work.
The country is looking for jobs and at the economy. Jobs and economy.
Posted by: Journolist at June 15, 2012 08:06 AM (QWOh7)
So he can lock in the absolute support of...erm...1/8th of the US population...that...let me check...always votes D anyway.
On the other hand, it's about the level of 'clever' he seems capable of.
Posted by: Brother Cavil presents at June 15, 2012 08:07 AM (GBXon)
At what point does prosecutorial discretion become misfeasance?
On the bright side, when Romney takes over in January, the illegals will have already identified themselves for orderly deportation.
Posted by: disturbed at June 15, 2012 08:07 AM (QupBk)
Obama's objective here is to bait Romney into stomping on a flaming bag of poo instead of focusing on the economy. Provoking a Yosemite Sam-like response (see Angle, Sharon) is the other thing he's fishing for, because illegal voter fraud is peanuts compared to a normally apathetic latino voter base motivated by fear. Luckily, Mitt is disciplined and slipery enough to get sucked into this... right?
Posted by: tad blatherton at June 15, 2012 08:08 AM (obW0B)
Rush on now: I have a name for Obama's new immigration policy: Catch-Release-Vote
Posted by: dagny at June 15, 2012 08:08 AM (WCAIB)
Posted by: someguy at June 15, 2012 08:08 AM (sEXZ/)
http://tinyurl.com/7kb758k
Posted by: Retread at June 15, 2012 08:08 AM (I2fq9)
Posted by: Infidel at June 15, 2012 08:08 AM (O/fK8)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 15, 2012 12:03 PM (piMMO)
hmm, now if i can just get a new BC denying i am well into my 40's .
huh? what about my kids, Yeah I had them at 9 years old!
so we'd all qualify, WIN.
Posted by: willow at June 15, 2012 08:09 AM (TomZ9)
Posted by: MJ at June 15, 2012 08:09 AM (/x4oj)
Posted by: someguy at June 15, 2012 08:09 AM (sEXZ/)
This is being introduced on Friday with intent it will be a 72 hour meme builder for Obama.
Ain't gonna work.
How pathetic to interject more division in this country while we are in a state of economic peril. This president and his team are beyond pathalogical, they are indeed sociopathic. And yes, in everysense of the word.
Posted by: Journolist at June 15, 2012 08:09 AM (QWOh7)
Posted by: mpfs at June 15, 2012 08:10 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: moki at June 15, 2012 12:06 PM (dZmFh)
Thanks Moki. I completed my chemo a couple of months ago but my hands and feet are still constantly numb. The oncologist says it will take 6 months to a year for that to even start getting better. Wifey has two radiation treatments left counting today.
Posted by: Vic at June 15, 2012 08:10 AM (YdQQY)
Er, actually, no.
Obama Sr. was already married to a woman from his Kenyan tribe at the time he married Stanley Ann Dunham.
So he was a bigamist during his stay in the States.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 15, 2012 08:10 AM (g2X0m)
Posted by: moki at June 15, 2012 12:02 PM (dZmFh)
I would LOVE to see a law, howeve, which ties the LEGAL immigration rate, to the Unemployment Rate!
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 15, 2012 08:10 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Zharkov at June 15, 2012 08:10 AM (oHmLq)
This is the smartest man in -any- room opening a porthole under the waterline of his reelection chances.
Posted by: Al at June 15, 2012 08:11 AM (MzQOZ)
Obama is truly a uniter. Gay marriage and amnesty = record Republican turnout.
Posted by: Sean at June 15, 2012 08:11 AM (1jv9o)
Rep. Allen West (R-Fla.) piled on, arguing that changes of such significance should require the approval of Congress.
“We have representative government,” West said in a statement, “and I think right now this shows that we're getting away from government that's based upon the consent of the American people, and we're starting to live under a rule by edict or executive order.”
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 15, 2012 08:12 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: torquewrench at June 15, 2012 12:10 PM (g2X0m)
Which would invalidate Obama Srs. Marriage, making Obama a Bastard...
But hell... we already knew he was a bastard...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 15, 2012 08:12 AM (lZBBB)
I can tell from the sheer volume of comments on all the sites carrying this story that B.O. has made the mistake of all mistakes.
The flaming skull is what his face will look like when this one backfires.
Posted by: wth at June 15, 2012 08:12 AM (wAQA5)
So he was a bigamist during his stay in the States.
Then when he divorced Stanley Ann, he married another white woman and took her back to Africa. He was a serial bigamist.
Posted by: dagny at June 15, 2012 08:13 AM (WCAIB)
Posted by: Y-not at June 15, 2012 08:13 AM (5H6zj)
Bring in the mass drivers!!
Where's that guy who summons the meteor when you really need him?
Posted by: Armando at June 15, 2012 08:14 AM (nd0uY)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 15, 2012 08:14 AM (9TTOe)
One root of this problem is the No Child Left Behind act, which tested illegal students with the legal students. The teachers unions whined that Hispanic high school aged students, seeing that they wouldn't get to go to college, had no motivation to finish high school. Thus the Hispanic children were dropping out, and ruining the schools NCLB report. One solution is to separate illegal from legal. Another is to give the students motivation to finish college, <i>voila</i>, the Dream Act. If we eliminate NCLB the Department of Education and Affirmative Action, we would all be better off.
Posted by: Milwaukee at June 15, 2012 08:15 AM (1j6/A)
Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at June 15, 2012 08:15 AM (QxSug)
Posted by: someguy at June 15, 2012 08:15 AM (sEXZ/)
Archeologists think they have found the relics of John the Baptist.
http://is.gd/0TgUrO
Posted by: Vic at June 15, 2012 08:15 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Sean at June 15, 2012 12:11 PM (1jv9o)
This isn't "amnesty". "Amnesty" would be Congress passing a law to do this. This is illegal and un-Constitutional. It is a total destruction of the idea of Constitutional limits on the office of the Presidency. This is flat-out destruction of our Constitutional Republic.
This isn't about votes. It's about America. Nothing short of impeachment is the proper response. There's no point left in voting in a system without any law.
The Dog-Eater signaled how he will defend this crime against America. Go back and check the idiotic arguments he offered in defense of the coup of his tin-foil buddy Zelaya in Honduras. That is what he's doing, here. Nothing less.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 15, 2012 08:16 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: JEM at June 15, 2012 08:16 AM (o+SC1)
Administration will begin giving work permits to younger illegal immigrants who came to U.S. as children and have obeyed the law — a policy shift that skips Congress, where it had been attacked by GOP as a form of amnesty.
Posted by: Vic at June 15, 2012 08:17 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Vic at June 15, 2012 08:17 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Y-not at June 15, 2012 08:18 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: I have King John's & the President's back at June 15, 2012 08:18 AM (4eNxd)
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at June 15, 2012 08:18 AM (YSyyZ)
Posted by: that sound? the straw that broke the camel's back at June 15, 2012 08:19 AM (HOOye)
Yeah, 800,000 my ass.
More like 8 million.
Posted by: Piss Off at June 15, 2012 08:19 AM (w7pwy)
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”
John Adams
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at June 15, 2012 08:19 AM (mFxQX)
Posted by: Y-not at June 15, 2012 08:20 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Journolist at June 15, 2012 12:19 PM (QWOh7)
Sure, but in the countries they are citizens of, not in America.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 15, 2012 08:22 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: Obama: The International @$$hole at June 15, 2012 08:22 AM (HOOye)
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring [HIMSELF] invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
At some point, enough is going to become enough.
Posted by: imp at June 15, 2012 08:22 AM (UaxA0)
Posted by: lael at June 15, 2012 08:22 AM (nNjlJ)
Posted by: Y-not at June 15, 2012 08:22 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: someguy at June 15, 2012 08:22 AM (sEXZ/)
Posted by: dagny at June 15, 2012 08:23 AM (WCAIB)
we should just allow any countries citizens to vote for our President, heck , we should all just vote in every country we are interested in for the good of the world.
i heard Canada has a decent economy, i'll just pack up my stuff and make them let me in, and ask for stuff,or perhaps mexico , they have lovely beaches and if i can't find a job i'll make mexico govt give me a house...... Good job health care and a special teacher to teach us all spanish. and specially made jobs to help new americans arriving that need a hand up.
Posted by: willow at June 15, 2012 08:24 AM (TomZ9)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 15, 2012 08:24 AM (9TTOe)
Posted by: Y-not at June 15, 2012 08:25 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 15, 2012 08:27 AM (niZvt)
Posted by: Pecos, at June 15, 2012 08:27 AM (2Gb0y)
Sept 2011
Obama on the DREAM Act: "I just have to continue to say this notion that somehow I can just change the laws unilaterally is just not true. We are doing everything we can administratively. But the fact of the matter is there are laws on the books that I have to enforce. And I think there's been a great disservice done to the cause of getting the DREAM Act passed and getting comprehensive immigration passed by perpetrating the notion that somehow, by myself, I can go and do these things. It's just not true."
Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 15, 2012 08:27 AM (tf9Ne)
619 Is "Inspector Asshole" a moby? Or just an asshole?
Fuck off, noob. Haven't seen your hash prior to 2012. Seen IA back years.
(no idea what IA has done, but sick of these little shits questioning anyone who disagrees as a troll/moby. What did IA do?)
Posted by: imp at June 15, 2012 08:28 AM (UaxA0)
Barky already showed that American politicians can campaign to foreigners ... in foreign nations ... hosted by foreign governments. Sure, it would have been considered illegal as all hell and the most repulsive political act in American history just 5 years ago, but this nation doesn't have the guts or intelligence to defend our own Constitution anymore.
People who think that there will even be anything left by Jan 2013 are betting on the longest of long shots. You don't just recover after having allowed all these unbelievable violations of our Supreme Law. Such a nation without law is not long for this world, no matter "who gets voted in".
Either the law is defended or it dies, not to be resuscitated.
This violation of Constitutional limits on the Executive is as serious as it gets and if let to stand is irreparable.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 15, 2012 08:28 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: Pecos, at June 15, 2012 12:27 PM (2Gb0y)
Ughhh
Posted by: The Jackhole at June 15, 2012 08:29 AM (nTgAI)
Obama did not lie in his last speach...
this election IS about two paths...
Vote for Obama? and the Constitution is defunct. Its gone... its dead... and we live in an Oligarchy where the Administration can pass by fiat, any 'regulation' they desire, and ignore the Law at whim...
Or we vote for an unknown... who may or may not roll back the Federal Usurption of Power we have had for generations.
This Constitutional Conservative... this Jeffersonian... is not a happy Man today...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 15, 2012 08:30 AM (lZBBB)
"David Brookes, if I can get you to weigh in on this, if I can get you to opine, to give us the feel for the beltway point of view, to let us know what America is thinking, tell us, what is these wingnuts, these inbred morons, these neocons problems with PresiObama?"
"Well Chris, far be it for me to tell you what other people are thinking in america, I can't possibly speak to that, but what I will say is this, have you ever seen the size of his manhood? It's big, in a sense of largeness, big and thick, and I've been enchanted with it, it's quite a nice cock, big and just perfect, it looks grand and should win him the gay and Hispanic vote."
"Ok, David Brookes..."
Posted by: Rev Dr E Piss Matthews at June 15, 2012 08:30 AM (ApGOC)
Constitution? Never heard of it.
Don't think of the Constitution as law. Think of it as a set of suggestions, some possibilities the ruler might want to consider. Or not.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 15, 2012 08:30 AM (ozSsd)
Posted by: Sovereignty? Meh. at June 15, 2012 08:30 AM (HOOye)
Doesn't Obama's move make it politically impossible for a Rubio or anyone else in the GOP to introduce a DREAM-lite bill at least until January, or for Romney to embrace anything resembling this policy?
I'm not sure this move was geared at picking up Hispanic votes so much as it was a chop-block on the GOP trying to do so.
To the extent that Romney speaks on this he needs to emphasize that it's not the President's job to make law.
Posted by: JEM at June 15, 2012 08:31 AM (o+SC1)
This is bad, but the Lame Duck session will be even worse.
Posted by: Pecos, at June 15, 2012 12:27 PM (2Gb0y)
Law of the Sea Treaty, during the Lame Duck.... ie cedeing the Power of the Only Worldwide Navy left, to others....
/facepalm
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 15, 2012 08:31 AM (lZBBB)
Does this penumbra make my ass look big?
Posted by: The Constitution at June 15, 2012 08:32 AM (O7Q1u)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 15, 2012 08:32 AM (9TTOe)
Posted by: Ernst Blofeld at June 15, 2012 08:32 AM (XZWie)
a long-sought but never enacted plan to establish a path toward citizenship for young people who came to the United States illegally but who have attended college or served in the military.
Doesn't an honorable discharge from the military qualify one for citizenship already?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 15, 2012 08:33 AM (ozSsd)
"Illegal immigrant children wonÂ’t be eligible to apply for the deportation waiver until they turn 16, but the officials said younger children wonÂ’t be deported, either."
So everybody with a kid stays. The 30 yo limit is essentially meaningless.
The private sector unions are gonna love this one.
Posted by: mrp at June 15, 2012 08:33 AM (HjPtV)
Posted by: I have King John's & the President's back at June 15, 2012 08:33 AM (4eNxd)
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at June 15, 2012 08:33 AM (YSyyZ)
A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
Even the pro-Mehiho contingent (both left and right) should be pissed for EXACTLY this reason.
Posted by: imp at June 15, 2012 08:34 AM (UaxA0)
*****
A list of suggestions written by old white guys.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 15, 2012 08:35 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: AD at June 15, 2012 08:36 AM (xVWsI)
Did I get that right?
Posted by: EXILE at June 15, 2012 08:36 AM (8IBSO)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at June 15, 2012 08:36 AM (ichgg)
A list of suggestions written by old white guys.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 15, 2012 12:35 PM (piMMO)
Its more like... guidelines....
Posted by: Capt. Barboza... at June 15, 2012 08:37 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Y-not at June 15, 2012 08:38 AM (5H6zj)
1. The man is a prostitute.
2. Boy, this sure does get Eric Holder and the economy out of the news cycles, don't it?
Posted by: soothsayer at June 15, 2012 08:38 AM (G/zuv)
Posted by: Sally Quinn at June 15, 2012 08:38 AM (96M6e)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 15, 2012 08:38 AM (9TTOe)
Posted by: pooh at June 15, 2012 08:39 AM (oZfic)
Wow...went to Kos anyway there is some weapons grade stupid over there:
**
it's about time Obama ignored these idiots in the GOP, which the idiots run the GOP now, so he has to forget the shreks and just go for it.
Go Man Go
80 % of success is showing up
Corporate is not the solution to our problem
Corporate is the problem
**
Harden the lines. Give voters hard choices. We will never win the racist vote. Nor do we want it. This is the right move at the right time.
"The Neanderthals didn't die out they just changed their name to Republicans"
**
jobs as janitors or pack their bags. Innocence is only for white babies. Though the poor ones should start on the janitorial jobs as well.
**
You could have introduced that bill at any time, you obstructionist poseur piece of shit.
Obama is at war with radical anti-American terrorists. The radical GOP is at war with American women. Take that and run with it DNC, you inept fucking pikers.
***
And on...and on...and on...
Posted by: dananjcon at June 15, 2012 08:39 AM (eavT+)
And accept foreign campaign donations via credit card.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at June 15, 2012 08:40 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Ed Anger Issues at June 15, 2012 08:40 AM (7+pP9)
No, it's a photoshop.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 15, 2012 08:40 AM (T0NGe)
****
Only momentarily
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 15, 2012 08:40 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Baraka Hussein XIV at June 15, 2012 08:41 AM (FcR7P)
The amazing thing is that this EO is being sold using the phrase "prosecutorial discretion".
Posted by: mrp at June 15, 2012 08:41 AM (HjPtV)
Posted by: Retread at June 15, 2012 08:41 AM (I2fq9)
He's ticked Obama ignored HIM? Well, buddy, I'M pissed you ignored the GOP voters.
****
Oh damn. I'm not even going to read/watch it.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 15, 2012 08:41 AM (piMMO)
See comments 514 and 565. Nuke Mexico, not trollish at all.
And I've been around (though don't often comment) since 2008 at least. I'm not sure if my hash has changed lately; it might have.
Posted by: lael at June 15, 2012 08:41 AM (nNjlJ)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at June 15, 2012 08:43 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at June 15, 2012 08:43 AM (3346+)
Hmmm....Lael, he doesn't sound like an asshole to me.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 15, 2012 08:43 AM (nEUpB)
Posted by: Y-not at June 15, 2012 08:43 AM (5H6zj)
Doesn't an honorable discharge from the military qualify one for citizenship already?
I'm too lazy to look it up but I think right now the regs are that one year service will put you on the fast track for citizenship. It's one year because the military sure has hell thinks we are at war right now.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 15, 2012 08:43 AM (VtjlW)
Remember the scene in CADDYSHACK where the caddies were allowed to use the POOL from 1:00 to 1:15?
Kinda like Ace's posting hours.
Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at June 15, 2012 08:43 AM (G/zuv)
Posted by: Infidelswine at June 15, 2012 08:44 AM (tpMkQ)
****
I'm sipping on a huge McD's coke and it is sooo good.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 15, 2012 08:44 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Y-not at June 15, 2012 08:44 AM (5H6zj)
Btw, isn't this almost EXACTLY what Bush proposed?
****
Close enough. I remember I was reading Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire at the time. That book includes information about the Romans' inability to control their borders and keep the Goths out. I was driving to work and the news came on about W trying for the third time to ram this down our throats even after that had been two enormous ourporings from the public saying, "NOOOOOOOOOO!" When I heard W and the RINOs were going back for a third bite of the apple it was like a punch to the stomach. For the first time I thought that if this is Republicanism, I may not be a Republican. After the 2008 loss and seeing the RINOs turn on she-who-may-not-be-named, blaming her for the defeat instead of the top of the ticket, I decided that was the straw that broke the camel's back. I went down and registered as an independent.
Posted by: WalrusRex at June 15, 2012 08:45 AM (jUZRg)
If you're commenting from home, work, phone on phone carrier, phone on Starbucks wifi, phone on Mickey D wifi, etc. you're gonna have so many different hashes it's useless to keep track.
Of course, if you have to comment while you're standing at the urinal in Starbucks maybe you need to reevaluate your life...
Posted by: JEM at June 15, 2012 08:45 AM (o+SC1)
Posted by: Scobface at June 15, 2012 08:46 AM (IoNBC)
He's ticked Obama ignored HIM? Well, buddy, I'M pissed you ignored the GOP voters.
This was stupid from the very beginning and the Moron Horde said so.
It was dumb politics -- 70% of the electorate is anti-illegal -- and dumb economics -- given the high jobless rates.
It was just a stupid thing to be pushing, but I guess he knew some people who were brought illegally to the US as kids and so...let's make a stupid law and hand the Democrats a weapon. Brilliant.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 15, 2012 08:46 AM (T0NGe)
Hmmm.... just hit me...
Its against the Federal Law knowingly help an Illegal Alien to stay in the country... its a FELONY.
This, a blanket IGNORING of the Law, by Presidentail Order, is a Conspiracy to allow this group to stay in the country Illegaly.
Thus, this Presidential Order, which promotes a Conspiracy and knowingly helps Illegal Aliens stay in the country, in defiance of the Law, is a CRIME... its a FELONY.
Is a Felony, a 'High Crime or Misdemeanor'?
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 15, 2012 08:46 AM (lZBBB)
I'm sipping on a huge McD's coke and it is sooo good.
I'm sucking down a huge diet coke and it hits all the spots on the way down. It's ven better since I say bite me Bloomberg before each drink.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 15, 2012 08:46 AM (VtjlW)
It's pretty clear President Weirdo does not want a second term.
He wants his lifetime pension and health care benefits and to travel around being paid by shitty commie groups to give whining speeches about how great his vision of turning America into a third world toilet was, if it hadn't been for the evil capitalists.
Posted by: wth at June 15, 2012 08:47 AM (wAQA5)
This might be a ploy to...
a) serve as a distraction
b) pander to la raza
c) cause a rift within the GOP on the issue of illegals
d) all of the above
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 15, 2012 08:48 AM (G/zuv)
Posted by: Y-not at June 15, 2012 08:49 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: pooh at June 15, 2012 08:50 AM (oZfic)
/facepalm
No Treaties without Congress. That won't happen.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 15, 2012 12:32 PM (9TTOe)
You guys crack me up.
Posted by: Jug Hussein Ears at June 15, 2012 08:50 AM (0d0K7)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 15, 2012 08:50 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Drider at June 15, 2012 08:51 AM (HaJD9)
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at June 15, 2012 08:51 AM (JRU+g)
Posted by: willow at June 15, 2012 12:46 PM (TomZ9)
Good point. It's getting harder and harder to actually make fun of them.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at June 15, 2012 08:51 AM (ichgg)
Posted by: Hulk at June 15, 2012 08:51 AM (4q5tP)
No Treaties without Congress. That won't happen.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 15, 2012 12:32 PM (9TTOe)
Lame Duck session is after the election, but with Congress still in Session...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 15, 2012 08:52 AM (lZBBB)
The Republicans should close down the house in protest, and open it when the republic is restored. Obama is officially a dictator now.
Giving jobs to aliens is beyond the pale. I was out of work for more than 2 years, and it almost killed me.. now he's just opened it up for criminals. Anyone living in southern border states should see this news and stroke out. This place is already over-run with unemployment at 12%. .... enough is ENOUGH!!!!!
Posted by: Are you asleep, Brutus? at June 15, 2012 08:55 AM (NQNTT)
Posted by: Sherlock at June 15, 2012 08:56 AM (Qwmbj)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 15, 2012 12:43 PM (VtjlW)
Service during hostilities qualifies you for citizenship immediately on discharge. Simple service during peacetime for 1 yr and have an honorable discharge qualifies for citizenship after 1 year of residency.(used to be 3 years but was changed in 2002).
Posted by: Vic at June 15, 2012 08:56 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Benjamin Franklin, rolling in his grave at June 15, 2012 08:58 AM (lZBBB)
Those remarks of yours still strike me as trollish, assholish, or deranged. But that's just my humble opinion, I don't presume to be anyone's moderator, and I've got an asshole like everyone else.
Posted by: lael at June 15, 2012 08:58 AM (nNjlJ)
IIRC, Obama made recess appointments last year while the Senate was still in session. Just one of a series of constitutional abuses, with the attack on religious liberty being the most belligerent to date.
Posted by: mrp at June 15, 2012 08:58 AM (HjPtV)
As stated upthread. This is meerly a restatement of current policy.
It's a tar-baby/distraction/troll. It's a desparate attempt to change the conversation from the economy.
*NOTHING* changes on the ground.
Mitt needs to not take the bait.
Posted by: MiloX at June 15, 2012 08:58 AM (96Fx0)
Where's that guy who summons the meteor when you really need him?
Posted by: Armando at June 15, 2012 12:14 PM
Ahhh... Mister Mordon, I need you to dooo something for me yeeuuus?
Posted by: Londo molari at June 15, 2012 08:58 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: Bosk at June 15, 2012 08:58 AM (n2K+4)
Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at June 15, 2012 08:59 AM (f8XyF)
Posted by: Charlie Gibson at June 15, 2012 09:00 AM (C8mVl)
Dictate from dear leader:
"Petty theft is now legal. Have at it."
I fail to see any difference
Posted by: Are you asleep, Brutus? at June 15, 2012 09:00 AM (NQNTT)
SCOAMF saw the potential for a GOP-backed DREAM-lite as a grenade lobbed at the Democrat ownership of the Hispanic vote and threw himself on the grenade.
Obama's forestalled any possibility of the GOP moving on this issue until after the election, because they really cannot be seen marching to Obama's tune.
The question is how much he'll bleed for having done it in such a blatantly imperial and potentially illegal fashion. Romney has to keep the wound open.
Posted by: JEM at June 15, 2012 09:02 AM (o+SC1)
Won't post the link....you guys would eat them alive...
Posted by: pooh at June 15, 2012 09:04 AM (oZfic)
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at June 15, 2012 09:15 AM (YSyyZ)
Posted by: Boomer Redneque, Treadslayer at June 15, 2012 09:18 AM (bCF5l)
Posted by: Boomer Redneque, Threadslayer at June 15, 2012 09:20 AM (bCF5l)
Of course, if he doesn't get the second term, Romney is going to have a great time voiding Obama's E.O.s and purging the alphabet agencies of Obama appointments. We hope.
Posted by: nraendowment at June 15, 2012 09:34 AM (Msv+6)
Posted by: M Rubio at June 15, 2012 09:36 AM (a1oOO)
You leave that asshole alone!
(I doubt this is the first time you've heard that phrase either...)
Posted by: Warthog at June 15, 2012 09:37 AM (WDySP)
Posted by: starboardhelm at June 15, 2012 09:39 AM (hHgxI)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 15, 2012 11:47 AM (piMMO)
More like "Fear and Loathing."
Posted by: RushBabe at June 15, 2012 09:50 AM (tQHzJ)
As El Rushbo pointed out in the first part of his show today:
Team Obama is in Full Blown Panic Mode.
They're pulling out the heavy led... in June.
And look at how utterly NAKED a political ploy this is.
With five months to go until the election, will even the most a-political, non-voting Americans fail to see this as a desperately pandering move to save his chances at re-election?
And look how early it is. He's throwing a fucking Hail Marry at the beginning of the second quarter!
Yet in substantive policy terms, it's way late.
Hey, Obama: Why now? You could have done this years ago. Oh, you're doing it because Rubio told you to. Yeah, right!
The shameless desperation will be lost on no one.
And that makes it a huge mistake on Team Obama's part. They can kiss what remains of their independent and moderate support goodbye.
They have effectively ceded mainstream American sentiment to the Romney campaign. They can't win it. And they are no longer trying.
They're only hope now is to consolidate (and somehow fire up) the traditional liberal grievance constituencies while ominously suggesting that no damn racists had better try to stop them. They have to hope that White Guilt will suppress Romney's support.
It's a bad bet. But they've concluded (perhaps rightly so) that it's all they've got left.
The safe bet is that in 2012, the average American voter is not going to fear being labeled a racist if he or she dares to cast a secret ballot against Obama.
Posted by: _Dave_ at June 15, 2012 09:51 AM (gqoYf)
Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at June 15, 2012 09:55 AM (qwK3S)
Posted by: SamIam at June 15, 2012 09:55 AM (VDpzM)
But before I go, I think the Pubs would be well-served to introduce this Constitutional crisis into US Senate elections.
1. Ask the Ds WTF do they think their constitutional duty is and whether their idea of legislating is going out for drinks and dinner and have the executive branch enact all the laws by fiat.
2. Pub candidates for Senate should make a pledge to actually introduce and pass a budget and ask Dem incumbents why they and their party are unwilling to do it.
These a-hats have a constitutional obligation to be a check on executive power and its about time this becomes an election issue. No answer the Ds can give in response is a good one. Therefore, it would seem to make strategic sense to at ask the damn question.
Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at June 15, 2012 10:02 AM (qwK3S)
"ZOMG no one told me some Hispanics were actually Catholics and resented us telling them to compromise their religious principles! With the drop in all supporters expect OWS Zombies I need to do something big to rally the Hispanic vote! I know! We'll give free legal residence status to millions of undocumented immigrants and they'll be so grateful they'll commit election fraud for us in November!"
This ploy is so obvious the Super Friends could spot it and stop it.
Posted by: exdem13 at June 15, 2012 10:02 AM (1GunI)
Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at June 15, 2012 10:03 AM (qwK3S)
"This ploy is so damn obvious the Super Friends could spot it and stop it."
- LMFAO!
Posted by: _Dave_ at June 15, 2012 10:05 AM (gqoYf)
However, I do have to give Team Obama credit on one front.
By dropping the Amnesty Bomb today, they effectively wiped out the absolutely horrible press Obama was receiving after his disastrous economic speech yesterday.
Even sympathetic sycophants like Dana Milbank had turned on him and were tearing him a new one. - At least Team Obama has stopped that bleeding ...temporarily.
Posted by: _Dave_ at June 15, 2012 10:16 AM (gqoYf)
Posted by: exdem13 at June 15, 2012 10:19 AM (1GunI)
Posted by: Zoltan at June 15, 2012 10:25 AM (sX1gH)
Posted by: King Barky III at June 15, 2012 11:11 AM (+XVQe)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 15, 2012 11:16 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Social Studies Graduate Student at June 15, 2012 11:42 AM (XvHmy)
There are multiple interest groups that will not like this action for multiple reasons.
1) Rule of law, illegal actions being rewarded
2) Violation of clearly stated constitutional separations
3) Further pressure on tight employment for legal residents
4) People that have worked hard to get here legally to work
Obama can't be impeached because of political considerations. But it is the last desperate act of a losing candidate. He is proving to the electorate that he is so self centered that he will break any law to divide and gain a partisan advantage. He is just reinforcing to voters why they don't want to vote for him.
He is unelectable. But he is also a loser, and people see that.
Wait until the polls erode more after this dumb antic. The panic will be palpable.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 15, 2012 11:42 AM (Why44)
Posted by: steevy at June 15, 2012 11:49 AM (Xb3hu)
Posted by: jimi ray at June 15, 2012 12:11 PM (FcOR4)
you got my votePosted by: holly at June 15, 2012 12:40 PM (zt3lR)
Laws don't matter to this two-bit despot dictator anymore. This is shameful and injustice for people like me who came to this country legally and lived here for six years, went to business school and still have to wait another ten years or who knows when to get a green card.
Obama is the WORST president in hisotry and will lose this election...I have no doubt.
Posted by: undercover at June 15, 2012 08:23 PM (ebBhy)
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