It's not free.
It's not free.
It's NOT free.

Duh.  Of course it's not free.  That's why you have to pay for our use of it.  Remember, we only let you pretend that you "own" anything to begin with. Don't confuse that reality. 

What's mine is mine and what's yours is mine.

Heck, Obama got my vote by not throwing me under the bus for my racist behavior.

Heh.  I just got an unofficial pardon.

Exactly. There is no "free". To accomplish "free", someone must become a slave.

I think Obama and the dems would be thrilled to shackle all working class people (esp. evil scary republicans) and force them into slavery so that little miss prog-hole slut can have free contraceptions.

My petty desires and serious emotional damage come first.

When we have free everything, we will be Cuba. Poor, unfree, living in government housing, eating  government  food  and  waiting  in  line for crappy government health care.

CanÂ’t we just keep Obama in office until he pays off my mortgage?

Because we're self-hating nihilists who want to bring everything familiar crashing down.

I think this should be required of all women of child bearing age who are receiving welfarehttp://tinyurl.com/82lubfj

Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 21, 2012 10:11 AM (tf9Ne)

I'm stealing that...

Are you telling us that women are goddamn helpless infants, and should be proud of it?

Yes.  Modern "feminism" (quotes for a reason) is nothing more or less than a reiteration of the idea that women are delicate, fragile flowers who cannot bear any type of strain or stress at all.  Apparently, these feminists have never met an 'ette.

I hereby submit to the Horde that Sandra Fluke now be referred to as Veruca.  Why?  Because she is Veruca Salt.  Daddy, Daddy, I want it NOW!  NOW NOW NOW!

You're welcome for having oompa loompas stuck in your head all day.

Ace had a piece a week or so ago about how socialism would arrive in the form of insurance-- making everyone pool their resources to pay for the needs of individuals. 

And yes, this includes sucking your baby's brains out into a sink.

Imagine if the producers of this country went on a general strike. These infants would shrivel-up and die. They should kiss the very ground we walk on.

**

**spit**

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 21, 2012 10:18 AM (niZvt)

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I'm sure someone has a used copy on their shelf.  Or she could get it from the library.

The whole point is to make us slaves by making everything "free".

You just keep your nose to the grindstone and get back to work, your betters will take the fruit of your labor and decide what to give back to you in the form of "free" stuff.

Of course they will keep a huge chunk of the fruit of your labor for themselves. And their friends.  And THEIR friends.  You miserable ingrate.

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 21, 2012 10:05 AM (Hx5uv)

Did Spanksit apologize? I saw that DeNiro did to Aunt Esther. Although I don't see why Esther would be offended except for a CYA on the comment. And considering her A it's going to need a lot of coverage

Posted by: lauraw at March 21, 2012 10:13 AM (yjrhl)

Everything from leftists is spoiled baby bullsh*t. Haughty "environmental conservation" started as a bunch of whiny rich liberals not wanting their beautiful views obstructed.

If only all of you who lived within your means would quit being so heartless and paid your fair share of my mortgage, the world would be a better place.

IÂ’m working on an interpretive dance that will explain how racist it is to keep all that money youÂ’ve been hoarding.

Dear King George,

We're all, like, yea Freedom, yea pusuit of happiness.  If we dont get free birth control, we'll be all like, boo England.

G. Washington, TJefferson, and the gang.

“I was blindsided when one of the parents got up on the stage in a costume that was hideously offensive then and is hideously offensive now,” Hanks’ said in a statement provided by his New York City publicist.

Thank you, Laura W.  On behalf of actually capable and competent women everywhere, thank you.

Oh, and "coochiepills."  I'm stealing that.

I would like to point out that if Ms Fluke would simply join with her sisters and pursue a proper liberal lesbian life style

I am possibly enjoying a bit too much having the opportunity to hurl out accusations that this discussion is heteronormative at my lefty friends. Hey, that's not my idiotic concept, it's yours so let's see how you like it when it's used against you. If we are not being heteronormative, then dental dams and condoms should be part of this discussion as well. Not to mention batteries. Just. Sayin'.

If we could just find a way to remove all of Warren Buffet's money.. and Steve Bing and Google and George Soros' their money too - we would buy some free stuff for a few Obama devotees.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 21, 2012 10:34 AM (SB0V2)

Beware of socks.

Ironic that Romney went to Obama's turf in Chicago to get a big win and give a good speech.

If there's any group in the country that has had their fill of Obama and his baggage, it's Illinois republicans, particularly the tiny little subset that lives in Cook County where Romney gave the speech last night.

That right there will be sweet victory in November, if yesterday's vote turns out to be a "Game Changer" of a different sort.

Posted by: dagny at March 21, 2012 10:35 AM (u50z0)

No one is mormon bashing.  I'd like the fb page but don't want to violate the person's privacy. 

I know, I know you guys are paid by romney to support him like everyone else.

I hereby submit to the Horde that Sandra Fluke now be referred to as Veruca. Why? Becauseshe is Veruca Salt. Daddy, Daddy, I want it NOW! NOW NOW NOW!<<<

Veruca Fluke? I like it. Has a quasi-alliterative quality that rolls off the tongue nicely. And you can adapt her song easily:

"I want a feast!  I want a ween-feast!"

I want free beer. 

Which candidate should I support?

IÂ’m a victim of profligate spending and a licentious lifestyle.

Since when are victims the bad guys?  WhereÂ’s the compassion?  How can you people sleep at night knowing that those dollars you scrimped and saved over the years are just sitting in the bank when they could be helping me?

Hang your heads in collective shame.

This is also why I think giving kids an "allowance" is evil. You train them to expect money for doing nothing.

This argument always confuses me because I got an allowance that was tied directly to doing my assigned chores.  Chores not done?  No allowance for you!  I don't think I know anyone who just got an allowance without doing anything for it.

Of course, once I hit about 14 or so and wanted new clothes and other things, my dad got me a job doing data entry where he worked.  Once I had the job?  No allowance for me!  Chores still had to be done though.

Posted by: toby928© at March 21, 2012 10:40 AM (GTbGH)

Make it silver dimes and I'm interested!

My democrat friend, and its too funny because she's a felon and can't vote, had tried once to give me some bread. I said where did you get it. "Oh, at the local AA meeting place". So I say no thanks, I have enough trouble trusting real bread, I don't need bread I don't know its origin. I suspect the grocery store sends it all there, but what the hell to I care, its a fricking buck fitty for a whole loaf.

You would have thought I just turned down winning the lottery by my refusal of "free" bread.

Posted by: oZfic at March 21, 2012 10:39 AM (vjxE3)<<<

That's not me

If that idiot who said "So you're all for like, Yay freedom and Yay, like pursuit of happiness..." is a plant, they are in trouble.

151I would like to learn how to make a proper mint julep.

When can I expect my training?<<<

Easter Sunday. I gave up alcohol for Lent, so I'll be ready to get my julep on.

; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;" class="MsoNormal">150Can I get a free Porsche?

Posted by: Phinn at March 21, 2012 10:47 AM (KNtHw)

I didnÂ’t realize there were still Porscheless people out there.  IsnÂ’t there some kind of government program for that?

ZOMG. 

SCOTUS unanimously smacks EPA in the Sackett case! 

Posted by: Vic at March 21, 2012 10:48 AM (YdQQY)

Do you mean FDR? That commie SOB really got the welfare wagon rolling

Hey, Marijuana may be a luxury to you, but for some of us it is a necessity, and since I can barely afford the payments on my McMansion and BMW, I expect the government to have some compassion for my strained situation and pay for it.

Now, when are we going to get going on the burning issue of getting the government to pay for the real necessities of life - hookers and booze?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 21, 2012 11:00 AM (1Jaio)

Do you mean Wilson? That egomaniac who determined the Constitution to be absolutely of no relevance, who really got income tax going, G-Men thugs attacking political opponents, along with placing the US fighting WWI after promising to keep America out of that Great War to End All Wars, promoting the dissolution of Western Civilization to give way to neo-feudalism, establishing the globalist insiders club aka League of Nations to redistrict national lines and attempt to deny national identity  east or south of Central Europe. 

Posted by: Galvatron at March 21, 2012 11:11 AM (YQqq9)

>>Please show me where anyone said birth control is evil shithead.  This is about who fucking pays for it and who could be forced to pay for it.  Buy it yourself and fuck off.

"For the pragmatic and progressive America that grew out of secularized higher education, truth has a provisional, this-worldly orientation. It’s more evolutionary than eternal in character–a fluid body of knowledge and interpretation, subject to revision and expansion.

For the Confederacy that now dominates the GOP, truth is solid and fixed and divinely embedded in the structure of the universe. Humanity’s responsibility is to accept and believe the truth rather than test ideas against actual experience. The Confederacy’s obsession with “originalist” interpretations of the Constitution–a twin of biblical literalism–is the classic example: truth must be eternal, universal.

Pragmatists and progressives defer to experts and professionals. They expect truth claims to be supported by evidence that emerges from research and testing. They put their faith in this process, and in the communities of inquiry–the disciplines–legitimized by secular institutions of higher education."

@163,

Bah, 1000X Bah. As a political argument you're probably right, it's "losing" but only because the ability of the populace to think rationally is pretty much gone. 

Personally I'm willing to take the loss if only so people have to start thinking about their a priori views on these things.  (Granted I'd love to have pulled this off better such that the politics were better played and we could call a win and get people to think. 

Let's start with an example.  I can come up with quite a few preassumptions present in your discussion. (But I'm lazy, and typing is hard, so here's someone else's discussion of at least one of them: http://tinyurl.com/7joms24) On top of that, it seems to imply that the only form of contraception available are the ones covered in ObamaCare, which isn't true. Using an IUD, Pill, Tube tying ect usually qualifies as a choice (over say: NFP, Condoms, or a Vasectomy).  Choices have consequences. Incidently, if your hypothetical married couple is having sex when they don't have the ability to afford even $9/month pills, they're taking on an (admittedly small 1%/year) risk of an unplanned pregnancy they'd have no chance of affording. That's reckless, IMHO. Even if under the "new rules" they get it for free (and thus don't have to pay for it) I'd consider it reckless to not consider the fact that that these things have a failure rate, and that failure has consequences, and you need to be prepared for those consequences.  Being Reckless is immoral.  Likely more immoral than smoking since you're (potentially) playing with someone else's life.  Considering there are doctors who won't prescribe birth control (they have to disclose this up front) there is some wiggle room in not seeing certain patients.*

Thirdly you've constructed the most horrific straw man I've seen in a while.  Wait nix that, it's the fairly standard strawman for this debate.  Whose "Denying" anything?  Even the most agressive opponents of the bill (Namely the USCCB) just don't want to pay for it. This does not equal denying.

While we're busy looking at preconceptions on this, anyone else notice that the forms of contraception offered barely qualify as "preventative medicine?" even by a large defintion? Most of them would provide a false sense of security against STDs, without actually preventing them.  It doesn't really make risky sex any safer it just sorta normalizes the risk for both sides involved (not that I'm a big proponent of risky sex, but the whole idea behind this is really wonky)

*Patient abandonment rules vary by state and can get complicated, so I won't digress into them. As a rule of thumb, if certain disclosures are made up front (and they don't violate any other antidiscrimination rules and it's not an emergancy situation) doctors get a some abilities under morals clauses. See Also: Pediatrictions who drop patients when parents won't consent to vaccines.

>>They never mention what women get to do in heaven...apparently, it's be the whores that, if they did it on Earth, would get them sent there.

Islamic women get to enjoy heaven, since there are no Islamic men there.

Oh, great. Another thread that will be turned into shit by those here to protect us from one troll. Your crap is no better than her crap. I'm sick of wading through it. <<<

We'll miss you.

Posted by: Galvatron at March 21, 2012 11:22 AM (YQqq9) 

drawing and quartering, burning people at the stake... you know, the old standbys

you would look GREAT in an iron maiden

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 21, 2012 11:26 AM (w/anX)

OWN IT

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 21, 2012 11:25 AM (pnnFm)

Thank you, EoJ.  Troll bashing is a time-honored tradition here. 

Posted by: Galvatron at March 21, 2012 11:18 AM (p+4lN)

If I was going to have a nanny state, I'd want it to club the everlovingfuck out of idiot assholes like yourself.

I mean, we are fantasizing here, right?

You know, I'm sure this guy has plenty of faults in his past, but you gotta give him some major credit for coming out and saying what damn near no other politician would EVER say. I'm really getting to like this guy.

My main beef with him had always been RomneyCare. In a recent speech he said he went beyond simply saying he was for repealing ObamaCare. He said he would had out exemptions from ObamaCare to all 50 states on Day 1. So basically, maybe ObamaCare can be essentially killed without 60 votes in the Senate.

This argument always confuses me because I got an allowance that was tied directly to doing my assigned chores.

Same here, allowance was a small pay for doing things.  It wasn't much, but I didn't need much, I was a kid.  Once I turned 14, I got a job, eagerly, so I could earn actual cash to put towards things I wanted. 

Posted by: Galvatron at March 21, 2012 11:30 AM (udRDY)

Not at all. First, we round up our opponents, like you, and go all Che Guevara on them (lined up against a wall and shot)

He's one of your heroes, no?

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 21, 2012 11:34 AM (8sCoq)

Would you happen to have a newsletter?

I'm with 36!!

Posted by: I am the egg man, . . . at March 21, 2012 11:35 AM (Agh9L)

Please, God, don't let it be traceable to Fast and Furious, please oh please oh please...

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 21, 2012 11:34 AM (ZKzrr)

_________________

That's why sterilization should be a mandatory precondition for any assistance.

Posted by: Galvatron at March 21, 2012 11:28 AM (udRDY)

The left are the totalitarians. Did you miss the 20th century? It's in all the history books. Hell, you can probably even find it on-line. Millions and millions murdered, imprisoned, separated, starved for your leftist ideology. What part of this don't you grasp? Really, read a book not written by Bill Maher.

Posted by: Galvatron at March 21, 2012 11:22 AM (YQqq9)

We plan to start by retro aborting all leftist imbeciles. Got any rope?

Late to the party here, but was Mitt being booed or the dipstick who asked the question?

If it hasn't been noted, it should be: Mitt and Santorum have never been in disagreement on this topic, so hopefully anyone in the R party looking to score points on this issue regarding primary season, you're looking in the wrong area. 

In other words, I know some people fear Santorum on the topic of legislating sex.  They shouldn't be.  His position, like Mitt's is, the federal government has no business in people's bedroom, neither for  nor against anything anyone is doing there. 

Posted by: Reactionary at March 21, 2012 11:38 AM (xUM1Q)

I agree with this... If you wany free contraception.. we can sterilize you.. a one stop shop. Then you won't be burdened with a child

Posted by: AoSHQ Stylebook at March 21, 2012 11:39 AM (GTbGH)

FTFY

Posted by: Reactionary at March 21, 2012 11:38 AM (xUM1Q)

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I'd thought that as well. But you know how things go. The sterilization policy would ultimately become mandatory without individual exemption.

Posted by: The Jackhole at March 21, 2012 11:41 AM (nTgAI)

I really don't support government sterilization... just lashing out.. probably overstated that one.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 21, 2012 11:41 AM (DrWcr) 

maybe it's raining where Galvatron lives and he's stuck in  Mom's basement instead of being out skateboarding or playing hackey-sack in the mall parking lot

Gal valtrex tron

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 21, 2012 11:49 AM (i6RpT)

lol

Ras has Romney down in Nevada?  Thought that was a cinch for Willy Mitt...

He needs to name Rubio as his running mate now.  Teh CNN keeps running this stupid fucking Traygon Murphy story to marginalize Florida pols, namely Rubio, who they can link to the Castle Doctrine.  They'll do everything to link Rubio with the (Hispanic) shooter.   

I might add a black's odds walking through a white neighborhood are a helluva lot better than, lets say, a white couple's odds driving through a black neighborhood in Knoxville. 

Posted by: Galvatron at March 21, 2012 11:46 AM (YQqq9)

I don't mind being called scum. But I get nasty when a dumbass like you calls me progressive. You don't know shit and it shows. You aren't worth responding to. Go educate yourself because your ignorance is your primary feature.

Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at March 21, 2012 11:42 AM (0tRzD)

______________

Well, how about just offering a coulpe good reasons why it's a bad idea?  I see ZERO moral obligation to provide a social safety net in the first place.  It's luxury, which only a prosperous society can even consider.  Purely a luxury.  The Christian church DOES have a moral obligation to charity, but even that is not expected to be unlimited nor required to be without preconditions.  Therefore, if I the taxpayer say that I am unwilling to finance the reproduction among the underclass, that should be my right to refuse to do so.  I often ponder the massive number of bastards I help support through my taxes - and I didn't even get the dubious pleasure of f***ing any of those women.

Voluntary sterilization in exchange for public assistance is more than reasonable.  It would also decimate the ranks of the Leftists, which is itself greatly to be desired.

351 -

It's a troll.  Note the changing hash tags.  I take a firm stance on trolls: don't engage them, ever.  No exceptions.  Leave it up to the mods whether they want to mess with them or outright ban, but in this case, with the changing hash, I'm thinking it thinks it's being clever, so ignore ignore ignore. 

Posted by: irongrampa at March 21, 2012 10:22 AM (SAMxH)

Just don't give anything too salty or too sweet to the food bank ok?

Twenty years from now, this corner of the internet will be a long-forgotten, low rent section.  People will occasionally come by asking about a guy named “Ace”.

Sitting on an overturned 5 gallon bucket in front of a small fire, a white haired African American hobo will look up at the questioner.  “Ace?  He donÂ’t come around here no more.  Moved uptown…”  As  he looks back to the glowing embers, he mutters “the boy had timing.  Yes Sir, it was timing that made him.”

"So how do you Socons plan to create your Religious/Moral utopia?"

"The word Humanism should be carefully defined. We should not just use it as a flag, or what younger people might call a "buzz" word. We must understand what we are talking about when we use the word Humanism. Humanism means that the man is the measure of all things. Man is the measure of all things. If this other final reality of material or energy shaped by pure chance is the final reality, it gives no meaning to life. It gives no value system. It gives no basis for law, and therefore, in this case, man must be the measure of all things. So, Humanism properly defined, in contrast, let us say, to the humanities or humanitarianism, (which is something entirely different and which Christians should be in favor of) being the measure of all things, comes naturally, mathematically, inevitably, certainly. If indeed the final reality is silent about these values, then man must generate them from himself.

So, Humanism is the absolute certain result, if we choose this other final reality and say that is what it is. You must realize that when we speak of man being the measure of all things under the Humanist label, the first thing is that man has only knowledge from himself. That he, being finite, limited, very faulty in his observation of many things, yet nevertheless, has no possible source of knowledge except what man, beginning from himself, can find out from his own observation. Specifically, in this view, there is no place for any knowledge from God.

But it is not only that man must start from himself in the area of knowledge and learning, but any value system must come arbitrarily from man himself by arbitrary choice. More frightening still, in our country, at our own moment of history, is the fact that any basis of law then becomes arbitrary -- merely certain people making decisions as to what is for the good of society at the given moment.

Now this is the real reason for the breakdown in morals in our country. It's the real reason for the breakdown in values in our country, and it is the reason that our Supreme Court now functions so thoroughly upon the fact of arbitrary law. They have no basis for law that is fixed, therefore, like the young person who decides to live hedonistically upon their own chosen arbitrary values, society is now doing the same thing legally. Certain few people come together and decide what they arbitrarily believe is for the good of society at the given moment, and that becomes law." -- Francis Schaffer

When/if society becomes "left" enough to push the boundary markers towards its own self-destruction, socons won't have to create anything.  They'll be the only ones left... theoretically speaking, of course.

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at March 21, 2012 11:52 AM (7+pP9)

One well thrown grenade

Posted by: mpfs at March 21, 2012 11:51 AM (iYbLN)

Finally some good news!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2012 11:57 AM (UOM4

He was probably invited to participate in their muticultural utopia... you know they are more advanced than us oui, oui

Posted by: Galvatron at March 21, 2012 11:44 AM (5TzUw)

And if you wait long enough, the hypocrisy just seems to write itself.

I'll be bringing pancakes and bingo cards. 

Posted by: mpfs at March 21, 2012 12:00 PM (iYbLN)

Has anyone noticed that in general people that drive a prius drive like shit ?

Everytime some asswipe is in my way or pulls out in front of me its one of these kooks... my town is overrun with hese things

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 21, 2012 11:59 AM (i6RpT)

Which is why they want to capture him alive.  I just hope he doesn't off himself before they get him.

Posted by: toby928© at March 21, 2012 12:01 PM (GTbGH)

FIFY

Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at March 21, 2012 11:59 AM (0tRzD)

_______________

Morally reprehensible?  By what standard?  No one is killed.  No one is forced to undergo the procedure.  They are free to sustain themselves without burdening me, the taxpayer.  No one's first born is taken away and put on TV or whatever.

I don't see how lobotomies come into this.  Those were given to people against their will.  Usually crazy people...  Sterilization, accepted voluntarily in exchange for goods and services, is not remotely the same.  The person is still functional, and his mind is not damaged nor his ability to think and provide for himself.

Posted by: mpfs at March 21, 2012 12:03 PM (iYbLN)

Green jello with carrots ?

Posted by: mpfs at March 21, 2012 12:00 PM (iYbLN)

Heh. Well, dear lady. If it wasn't revoked, you sure as hell pulled it with that.

Sean Penn up for a Noble-wipe your ass with it-Peace Prize, for work done in Haiti.

 *

Have you seen Haiti lately?

434 -

Agreed... in a sense.  I believe the ruthless nature of our Europals has been slumbering for some time, not unreasonably due to the nasty business they got up to in the last century.  When it awakens though, ruthlessness will come very naturally to them  once again. 

France is learning a valuable lesson.

Nope.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 21, 2012 12:04 PM (jUytm)

other than running away?

Posted by: Insomniac at March 21, 2012 12:04 PM (v+QvA)

Not really

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 21, 2012 11:28 AM (kdS6q)

What does that have to do with my post again? Did I even mention Romney? Or are you implying that he'll switch positions once the primary is over?  I'm not a huge Romeny fan, I'm around Kubler-Ross Stage 4, but this doesn't surprise me really. Most politicians run center once the primary ends.  In either case, I doubt he'll run <i>towards</i> ObamaCare.  If we (Repubs) lose the Birth Control/Religious freedom issue it will be because we lost the narrative (and became "banners of Birth Control") not because Mittans flipped positionn on it.

Posted by: Reactionary at March 21, 2012 12:04 PM (xUM1Q)

--There's also Norplant, which is easily reversible so as soon as the parasites become contributors they can be eligible to breed.

463Green jello with carrots ?

How about green jello with absinthe?

442 -

We, the people, have no business reaching up into anyone else's genitals against their will.  We (meaning you and the rest of us) either agree on that point, or we have nothing to discuss.  Any other position is inhuman.  Period. 

Posted by: mpfs at March 21, 2012 12:07 PM (iYbLN)

HAHA ! You are so on it. Lutheran church was the last place I saw this. Well done . 

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 21, 2012 12:08 PM (jUytm)

Or, with everyone's eyes on him someone's pocket is being picked somewhere else.  When something like this happens in the subway, you immediately ignore it and check your purse or wallet.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 21, 2012 12:10 PM (TOk1P)

Baracka touches my junk when he reaches for my wallet

Posted by: Hedgehog at March 21, 2012 12:12 PM (3jGS1)

I have no problem using a rod on liberal slut women. You might say I'd be happy to liberally apply it.

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 21, 2012 12:10 PM (i6RpT)

--Speaking of, I have a reading sample of Stephen Hunter's Soft Target and it looked good.  Then I hear that there's a character (State Police honcho) who has a Kenyan grad student father and an anthropologist mother and he's named Obobo.  I now feel compelled to buy that book.

Posted by: mpfs at March 21, 2012 12:12 PM (iYbLN)

Give him a nice plate of lutefisk.. chilled as well

Posted by: ziggyelman at March 21, 2012 12:14 PM (W4Ohk)

Who'll be blamed?  Boooosh or Barry?

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 21, 2012 12:15 PM (OgNT1)

It's only to keep your eyes away from the man behind the curtain... pay no attention

498 -

For what it's worth, my first reaction upon seeing that is "shame on us, if we did."  I'm not thinking of Bush's watch vs. Obama's watch, I'm thinking of us, as a nation.  Shame. On. Us.

Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at March 21, 2012 12:18 PM (niW49)

Darth, not Your Kidney some strangers kidney!

why should you give up a thing?

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 21, 2012 12:17 PM (i6RpT)

would it really matter?

Laura,

What do you REALLY think?  Don't hold back this time.

Posted by: MJ at March 21, 2012 10:50 AM (/x4oj)

Hahahaha.  Yah, Boomers?  Nothing to do with any of this mess, complete bystanders.  Peachiest fucking generation evah!  That damn Greatest Generation and those stupid X'ers and THEIR kids just fucking everything up. 

But then, that's what fucking makes you assholes proto-typical 'Boomers', isn't it?  Oh, and hey?  Fuck you, and thanks for reminding me that there's an upside to Obamacare too. 

Luis Gutierrez mowed my lawn and rape Pedro, my pool boy.

#546

It was the surveilance by French authorities that drove him to kill Jewish school children.  And it wasn't motivated by Islam.  And Jihad is an internal struggle.

Does anyone not wanting a child use condoms anyore?

Oh, we're already up to 560 posts. Surely everyone has moved on to "favorite drinks" and a good "Maximilion Schell vs. Richard Atenborough" debate.

Still. Condoms.

; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;" class="MsoNormal">544Help out the poor spinster here. There's really no way for faithful married couples to "pair-bond" except pregnancy-free penile penetration of the vag? And this is sooooo important, they can't be expected to pay any associated costs themselves?

I had no idea.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 21, 2012 12:31 PM (ZKzrr)

When I think of all those times my wife had to take it in the ass because we couldnÂ’t afford birth control, I almost agree with Fluke.

544 -

As long as I was married, my wife and I didn't consider it anyone else's business (in all senses of the word) what we did in our bedroom... or elsewhere in the house, for that matter.  I can say though, we never used artificial birth control, and had exactly as many children as we chose... and managed to enjoy each other's company IYKWIMAIKYD. 

SarahW at March 21, 2012 12:20 PM (LYwCh)

Still with the straw men? Really? There comes a point in time where it gets hard to even handle the strawmen because it requires creating more strawmen just to compete with your strawmen.  I have a post above that goes into greater detail.

Again though, there's the implication that a) someone wants to ban contraception and b) that the only forms of contraception are the ones covered under the regulations.  Although, nice touch on throwing in the "regulate menstural cycle" bit. It implies necessity.  Doesn't change the fact that it's still a choice. I'll admit it may be a piss poor choice (pay for contraception or deal with the menstrual cycle) but in most cases it doesn't rise to the level of "somone else needs to provide this for for me." 

Incidently I have knee problems, I choose to deal with them over the surgical option because the surgical option is expensive and I can handle the pain with some ibuprofin whenit gets bad and staying off my feet.  Why don't we mandate free arthoscopy without copays?

I can say though, we never used artificial birth control, and had exactly as many children as we chose...

Word.

Though it makes my wife nervous to say that.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 21, 2012 12:43 PM (5Td5d)

Don't forget, Sheila Jackson-Lee (D-Saturn) believes astronauts planted the U. S. flag on Mars.

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Understood... until you get over that hump (pun intended) you're never more than one hump away from an unexpected blessing!

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 21, 2012 12:50 PM (jUytm)

Good point.  I'd like bigger boobies.  It would make me happy.  Pay up, bitchez.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 21, 2012 12:32 PM (tqwMN)

I don't think so.  The people wanting their "free" stuff already plan to vote for the SCOAMF.  Romney made a very good point that the promises of free stuff is to buy votes and the cascading debt is immoral.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2012 11:47 AM (UOM4

Hopefully not officers or they're in deep mukkla.

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Wow, they really do want to make sure nobody else talks.  We can all now pretend it was just those evil Saints what did it. 

MLB could really learn a thing or two from their smarter, better looking cousins.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at March 21, 2012 12:58 PM (RD7QR)

Apparently the NCOs.

Just posted your three points on some twits facebook page.

Just perfect.

Saints coach Sean Payton suspended for a year, the GM for 8 games. They also lose 2 2nd round draft picks. Greg Williams suspended indefinitely.

What. The. Fuck. Those fucking cheaters the Patriots got, what? A gold star? And Payton gets this? Yeah, that makes sense.

brb stompybooting Belichick voodoo doll

Tebow to Jets for a 4th round pick.

Gee, it's a mystery why anyone would ever think that Elway wanted nothing to do with Tebow. Total. Mystery.

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It is to me, what's the mystery?  Something about St. Johnny I don't know? 

All tax is theft.

Also, I wonder what possible connection all the suits against the NFL for head injuries by former players has with this decision.  I mean, I'm sure there's none, right?  Goddell couldn't be that freaking obvious.

(Obviously I am not pro bounties on other players or specifically trying to harm another player.  I'm just still ragey mcragerson about the Cheatriots)

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I believe just about everyone connected to the NFL, from waterboys to owners, knows you don't bite the hand.  In other words, first rule of NFL club, you don't talk about NFL club.  Second rule is...

Posted by: mpfs at March 21, 2012 01:09 PM (iYbLN)

Drudge has a link claiming the U. S. released him and sent him back to France.

Dear France, you're welcome.  Preznit Stumblefuck

It is to me, what's the mystery? Something about St. Johnny I don't know?

Elway made several statements that were, to be kind, damning with faint praise of Tebow. It was patently obvious that Elway did not apprciate being forced to go with Tebow and that he wanted to go another direction. Hey, that's fine, it's his perogative to do that. But he handled the whole Tebow Mania thing in a pretty classless fashion. Someone, maybe the Head Ewok I don't remeber, commented that Elway gave Tebow precisely the amount of support publicly that Elway's publicist pointed out was necessary. I thought that was a very good observation.

Again, if Elway and the Broncos want to go another direction, good for them (well okay as a Browns fan I am pointing and laughing and hoping that after the first game of the season they'll be begging Tebow to come back on bended knee but let's pretend I'm a better person).  The only point is that those of us who said that Elway's "support" of Tebow was deserving of the quotes now have yet more evidence of that.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 21, 2012 01:11 PM (KNvk+)

The NFL has turned into a mini version of the government

Gotta hand it to the Jets, they sure love themselves a zoo-like atmosphere.

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Heh, to badly misquote a churchy song: they'll know we are Catholics by our love... children. 

Btw, my mommy practiced birth control, she only got pregnant once every year or so. 

Hopefully not officers or they're in deep mukkla.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at March 21, 2012 12:58 PM (RD7QR)

Even as Senior Enlisted... they are done.  Its OK to bitch about the CINC to your shipmates, but NOT to outsiders... its the same as when Carter was in Office.

Its like the ORDER my Son (Active Duty 3rd Class in the Navy) got to NOT talk about Don't ask Don't tell last year...

So now the jets have two QBs that can't throw accurately?

garrett ftw!

I do not for a second believe the hammer would fall on the Patriots if they get caught again. There's too much money tied up in the whole Patriots mystique thingy.  *stabs more pins into dolls* 

Why, yes, I do hold a grudge.  Why do you ask?

Lot's of protein though.

There are easier ways to get your Protein.

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Ok, that's about how I saw it too, I was just wondering if you had some other info, like Elway being anti-Tebow for his overt religiosity or something.

Otherwise yeah, Elway didn't care for him, that was clear.  A 4th rounder?  Ouch, that seems harsh. 

Ok, that's about how I saw it too, I was just wondering if you had some other info, like Elway being anti-Tebow for his overt religiosity or something.

Oh no, nothing like that, at least that I've heard.  I would be shocked if that were the case actually. 

I still don't think Colorado, hell I don't think the are west of the Mississippi is big enough for Elway and Manning's egos. 

Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at March 21, 2012 01:12 PM (niW49)

For something like this Barry has got the teleprompter warmed up for the blame game

Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at March 21, 2012 12:08 PM (niW49)

It's not a case of buying your fertility, as one might buy an organ.  It's a case of taking steps to insure that you will not create an even bigger burden on me while enjoying my welfare largess.  (Granted, sterilizing the males is essentially pointless, but it would be unfair to only require the treatment of one sex.)  If you want to keep your reproductive capacity - good for you.  Go find someone else to pay for your food and shelter.

If measures like this are not taken, we'll be swamped with underclass spawn within a generation or two.  They already out-breed productive people at a distressing rate.  They're already filling the slums and jails to overflowing.  In the larger sense we already have way more people than can be employed gainfully, which is another reason to quit encouraging those who are least capable of succeeding from breeding more like themselves.  Otherwise the whole work-for-pay system of getting along in the US is sunk.

As for the idea of selling your body parts for government handouts, well, that doesn't sound super horrific to me since it would be fully voluntary.  I guess I'm just not that disturbed by it, so long as it's not forced harvesting like in China.