August 20, 2012
— andy Oh, Lizzie ...

Iowahawk, as usual, nailed it in 140 characters or less:
Still no proof that anybody in Elizabeth Warren's family has ever ridden an Indian (@iowahawkblog)
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Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 20, 2012 04:09 AM (P6QsQ)
We could not do much better.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 20, 2012 04:09 AM (sbV1u)
The cycle is more Indian than the rider.
Posted by: Conservative Beaner at August 20, 2012 04:09 AM (gP8Ku)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 04:12 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Vic at August 20, 2012 04:12 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 04:12 AM (05RcU)
However, they have some awesome bagel shops and the best Middle Eastern food in the Northeast.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 20, 2012 04:13 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 04:14 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 20, 2012 04:14 AM (cubpP)
That would explain it.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 20, 2012 04:14 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Slappy at August 20, 2012 04:15 AM (LTbLf)
Posted by: Vic at August 20, 2012 04:15 AM (YdQQY)
No, she starts wearing the keffiyah after she is elected.
It's in the official Democrat Party Style Guide Volume 3
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 20, 2012 04:16 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Runs with Anal Fissures, D-MA at August 20, 2012 04:16 AM (qZXps)
Posted by: Trolledyouso at August 20, 2012 04:17 AM (qZXps)
Posted by: Lessons from the Ceramic Throne at August 20, 2012 04:17 AM (0QXZO)
Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at August 20, 2012 04:19 AM (UjSt7)
Posted by: Stevo at August 20, 2012 04:19 AM (1WaC5)
Posted by: Confused Portly Gentleman at August 20, 2012 04:20 AM (qZXps)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 20, 2012 04:20 AM (cubpP)
Posted by: Slappy at August 20, 2012 04:21 AM (LTbLf)
Posted by: ParisParamus at August 20, 2012 04:21 AM (7SkSw)
Posted by: Lizzie "Fauxcahontas" Warren at August 20, 2012 04:23 AM (5PkZK)
26No reason to caption it. Iowahawk wins. <<<<
Iowahawk always wins. We need an amateur division, or something.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 20, 2012 04:23 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: ParisParamus at August 20, 2012 04:23 AM (7SkSw)
Posted by: Jeanne & web fu at August 20, 2012 04:23 AM (KWQ+d)
Posted by: Slappy at August 20, 2012 04:25 AM (LTbLf)
Posted by: Vic at August 20, 2012 04:26 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 20, 2012 04:27 AM (8y9MW)
"My people have legends of when the White Man came on his Iron Horses and drove the Dungeness Crab herds away."
*** single tear ***
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 20, 2012 04:28 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at August 20, 2012 04:28 AM (5TFvk)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 20, 2012 04:28 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: EC at August 20, 2012 04:29 AM (GQ8sn)
::: golf clap ::::
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 20, 2012 04:29 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 20, 2012 04:30 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 20, 2012 04:30 AM (cubpP)
Posted by: Urologist at August 20, 2012 04:31 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 20, 2012 04:31 AM (8y9MW)
Yeah!
Posted by: "Blood 'n' Guts" Dickie Blumenthal at August 20, 2012 04:31 AM (z9HTb)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 04:32 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at August 20, 2012 04:35 AM (gznAu)
Actually, she's nothing close to a Masshole. That's a term of endearment.
Posted by: Sean Bannion, Former Masshole at August 20, 2012 04:35 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 20, 2012 04:36 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 20, 2012 04:37 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: Lizzie "Fauxcahontas" Warren at August 20, 2012 04:38 AM (gznAu)
That's fine. "Jersey Fucks" isn't term of endearment when I use it either. ;-)
Posted by: Sean Bannion, Former Masshole at August 20, 2012 04:39 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 20, 2012 08:30 AM (cubpP)
He wants photographic evidence that he saw the ass of an ass.
Posted by: Slappy at August 20, 2012 04:39 AM (LTbLf)
Posted by: IreneFingIrene at August 20, 2012 04:42 AM (X7MMs)
Posted by: Slappy at August 20, 2012 04:43 AM (LTbLf)
Posted by: Lizzie "Fauxcahontas" Warren at August 20, 2012 04:45 AM (gznAu)
Lizzie - "What do those words mean?"
Biker1 - "Cherokee for She Who Rides"
Lizzie - "Oh thank you."
vroom .... *thud* Lizzie drops the bike.
Biker2 - *snickering* "Dude she bought it!"
Biker1 - "Yeah."
Biker2 - "So what do the words mean?"
Biker1 - "Idiot Aboard"
Biker2 is taken to ICU due to severe stomach cramps.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 20, 2012 04:47 AM (cubpP)
Posted by: ontherocks at August 20, 2012 04:48 AM (aZ6ew)
Stock prices ceased to be a meaningful relationship with actual company worth a long long time ago. Now it is a reflection of what institutional investors feel like gambling on.
Posted by: Vic at August 20, 2012 04:51 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Cicero Kid at August 20, 2012 04:51 AM (/C4ea)
Posted by: catman at August 20, 2012 04:52 AM (YKUmW)
Posted by: US Military at August 20, 2012 04:52 AM (05RcU)
Unlike other posters, I'm not greedy and don't require a threesome with Eva Mendez. But I'd rather see Dennis Hopper *after* the shotgun blast in "Easy Rider" on that hog than the hog that's on it.
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at August 20, 2012 04:54 AM (yxz7s)
Posted by: Dirty Old Man at August 20, 2012 04:55 AM (+jzw8)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 20, 2012 04:55 AM (cubpP)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 20, 2012 04:56 AM (cubpP)
Head out on the highway
Lookin' for adventure
And whatever comes our way
Yeah Darlin' go make it happen
Take the world in a love embrace
Fire all of your guns at once
And explode into space
I like smoke and lightning
Heavy metal thunder
Racin' with the wind
And the feelin' that I'm under
Yeah Darlin' go make it happen
Take the world in a love embrace
Fire all of your guns at once
And explode into space
Like a true nature's child
We were born, born to be wild
We can climb so high
I never want to die
Born to be wild
Born to be wild"
*Sung in a screechy Granny Botox voice*
Posted by: catman at August 20, 2012 04:58 AM (NYdB8)
Naw, we rape the shit out of 'em at the Number Six Dance later
Posted by: Taggart at August 20, 2012 05:00 AM (sbV1u)
Correct answer? "Come and take it."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 20, 2012 05:01 AM (8y9MW)
Liz warren still looks better than Sarah Palin did at The Villages. It's true:
http://tinyurl.com/8ezf7lm
Posted by: troldyaso at August 20, 2012 05:02 AM (QjSgY)
"Figures she chose the one with ape hangers."
Posted by: Cicero Kid at August 20, 2012 08:51 AM (/C4ea)
Racist
Posted by: Toowray at August 20, 2012 05:04 AM (QjSgY)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at August 20, 2012 05:04 AM (v6YdM)
Posted by: Cicero Kid at August 20, 2012 08:51 AM (/C4ea)
Racist
Posted by: Toowray at August 20, 2012 09:04 AM (QjSgY)
She's wearing her "chains" too.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at August 20, 2012 05:07 AM (3ZjAP)
"The F Word" is the twelfth episode of the thirteenth season of the American animated television series South Park, and the 193rd overall episode of the series. It originally aired on Comedy Central in the United States on November 4, 2009. In the episode, the boys attempt to change the official definition of the word "fag" from an anti-homosexual slur to a term describing loud and obnoxious Harley bikers.
Posted by: TexBob at August 20, 2012 05:09 AM (vNiOJ)
Posted by: SurferDoc at August 20, 2012 05:11 AM (6H6FZ)
Posted by: Fritz at August 20, 2012 05:14 AM (/ZZCn)
Posted by: US Military at August 20, 2012 05:18 AM (05RcU)
And twixt her legs it roared, and rumbled
Tried in vain to rid herself
Of native statements bumbled
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at August 20, 2012 05:18 AM (L7hol)
Can we trick Barkah into one of these:
It is a GM joint, after all. And if it's like South Park's IT, he'll enjoy the ride.
Posted by: 66chevelle at August 20, 2012 05:19 AM (QjSgY)
Posted by: chippa at August 20, 2012 05:19 AM (2cfUo)
Liz 'Intergalacticly Stupid' Warren
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 20, 2012 05:21 AM (ccXZP)
Posted by: RightWingProf at August 20, 2012 05:24 AM (bHgwn)
True in a "Mike Dukakis looked better in a tank than George Patton did" way.
True in a "Kate Smith looked better in a two piece than Kate Upton does" way.
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at August 20, 2012 05:24 AM (yxz7s)
Racists.
Posted by: 13times at August 20, 2012 05:24 AM (h6XiD)
If MA isn't one of those states, who is?
Posted by: AmishDude at August 20, 2012 05:28 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 20, 2012 05:28 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 05:28 AM (05RcU)
Coexist baby! Next time you see one of those stickers, run them off the coexist highway that you didn't build.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at August 20, 2012 05:31 AM (3ZjAP)
Over a girl with Downs Syndrome.
Islam is a disease upon humanity.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 20, 2012 05:32 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Nukie at August 20, 2012 05:32 AM (AzwZn)
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at August 20, 2012 05:33 AM (yxz7s)
#118
She's also 11 years old. She does not understand the charges against her, is incapable of answering questions posed to her by the 'authorities'.
An eleven year old mentally deficient girl is being held in jail...and will likely lose her life for something she does not have the capacity to even understand.
Yet Pock-ee-stahn is our ally?
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at August 20, 2012 05:33 AM (L7hol)
Posted by: Invictos at August 20, 2012 05:34 AM (OQpzc)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 20, 2012 05:34 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Roy at August 20, 2012 05:35 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 09:28 AM (05RcU)
I think that the problems of the Muslim world are intractable, and our best strategy is to pull out of the Middle East completely, except for a small base in Afghanistan, from which we run special ops to keep the Taliban from overrunning the place. We can use drones and other air power throughout Pakistan, Afghanistan and the Horn of Africa to suppress the more obvious Islamists.
Let them kill each other -- it's what they love to do!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJ Yankees Fan) at August 20, 2012 05:35 AM (2b4yb)
Posted by: Slappy at August 20, 2012 05:36 AM (LTbLf)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 05:37 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Polliwogette, Teahada hobbit who wants some R&R at August 20, 2012 05:37 AM (8sEhR)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 05:38 AM (05RcU)
Hauling/transorting motorcycles in cargo van/ pickup and trailer is also cause to check DMV license / OHV stickers.
Been pulled over by chp/sheriff at least 30 times since 1976.
Posted by: 13times at August 20, 2012 05:39 AM (h6XiD)
Posted by: Trolledyouso at August 20, 2012 05:40 AM (qZXps)
Well, your days in power are over, and the enlightened among us are taking charge. No longer will the uneducated boors in Amerikka be able to strike fear in the hearts of minorities. We are the majority now, and you and your religious-based world will disappear into the fog of history.
Posted by: Ivy League Progressive at August 20, 2012 05:41 AM (2b4yb)
Oh, goody, more Police State BS.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 20, 2012 05:43 AM (8y9MW)
Yeah, about that...
Posted by: Muslim Brotherhood at August 20, 2012 05:43 AM (5iuEW)
Posted by: ParisParamus at August 20, 2012 08:21 AM (7SkSw)
You mean Lizzie has been sitting on that damn bike for THIRTY YEARS!
Posted by: Lessons from the Ceramic Throne at August 20, 2012 05:43 AM (ze9yk)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at August 20, 2012 05:44 AM (qZXps)
Posted by: Lionel Manboobs at August 20, 2012 05:44 AM (kyzl0)
The only problem with this is that it's too close to the real thing. I mean, it reads like a sock, but I could see some of our more dedicated trolls saying something very, very similar.
If they could master long words like 'enlightened,' and 'and.'
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 20, 2012 05:45 AM (8y9MW)
"Well in m own words.......Ive been throught the desert on a horse with no name. It felt good to be out of the rain."
Posted by: Lizzie Warren at August 20, 2012 05:45 AM (C8hzL)
Posted by: My Ass Burns...stick it out the window and cool it off at August 20, 2012 05:45 AM (t2z5E)
Posted by: dfbaskwill at August 20, 2012 05:46 AM (71LDo)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at August 20, 2012 05:47 AM (Ho2rs)
No caption necessary.
Posted by: ontherocks at August 20, 2012 05:47 AM (aZ6ew)
Posted by: 13times at August 20, 2012 05:49 AM (h6XiD)
The 50 cent rides in front of K-Mart are getting more realistic every year.
Posted by: dfbaskwill at August 20, 2012 09:46 AM (71LDo)
Jennifer Connelly on a mechanical pony, stat!
Posted by: ErikW at August 20, 2012 05:50 AM (WbViZ)
Hey, she looks every bit as good on that motorcycle as Cher did sitting on a horse wailing "Half Breed." Now if we could only get Lizzie to sit on a cycle wearing an Indian headdress and the traditional Native American costume of Bob Mackie designed sequined bikini, her triumph would be complete.
Posted by: Donna V. at August 20, 2012 05:50 AM (EflcN)
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 20, 2012 05:50 AM (BAS5M)
Currently that same salary would be about 36K a year plus 1100 housing allowance (depending on duty station).
That is comparable to civilian pay, especially when you factor in base exchanges etc where you don't pay sales tax.
Posted by: Vic at August 20, 2012 05:52 AM (YdQQY)
Ugh! Me ride my steel horse through wild prairie of Cambridge, plan attack on white man Brown.
Posted by: Donna V. at August 20, 2012 05:54 AM (EflcN)
>>Posted by: Count de Monet at August 20, 2012 09:50 AM (BAS5M)
She's always looked like she needs a stronger scrip for her goggles.
Posted by: ontherocks at August 20, 2012 05:55 AM (aZ6ew)
Posted by: Jean at August 20, 2012 05:57 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: Comanche Voter at August 20, 2012 06:01 AM (oe1aw)
"Can't hear you! Can't stop! On my way to the Cherokee Survivors Bike Rally in North Carolina! The Association Of Cherokee-Approximate Real Nutbags is signing up votes for me there! Absentee! They aren't affiliated with the tribe, but they feel very strongly about the name, so it's all good!"
Posted by: barbarausa at August 20, 2012 06:02 AM (WWeoI)
Posted by: choked up at the sight at August 20, 2012 06:03 AM (HOOye)
Posted by: Jean at August 20, 2012 06:03 AM (WkuV6)
I can't think of anything from Thursday that would give Obama a big boost, so maybe it was an outlier.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 20, 2012 06:04 AM (ZJNI6)
Posted by: real joe at August 20, 2012 06:05 AM (PD2ad)
Posted by: Jean at August 20, 2012 09:57 AM (WkuV6)
That was where the P-3 150 came in. Certain critical rates got more pay. But as I said, with all the allowances a married guy would be pulling down about 50K a year. That is more than a small town cop makes, but less than a big city cop.
Posted by: Vic at August 20, 2012 06:05 AM (YdQQY)
As if the world didn't have enough scary long fanged eight legged spiders, hikers in Oregon just HAD to go find a new one. Fuckers.
Of course, scientists just had to name the new find a 'Trogloraptor'. I'll be in my bunk...but not in the usual moron sense. I'll be cowering under my blankets for the rest of the day.
http://tinyurl.com/d5pmlc7
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at August 20, 2012 06:06 AM (L7hol)
Posted by: Jean at August 20, 2012 06:09 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 06:09 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at August 20, 2012 06:10 AM (qZXps)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 10:09 AM (05RcU)
Now I agree with that.
Posted by: Vic at August 20, 2012 06:10 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at August 20, 2012 06:10 AM (XN0LR)
Posted by: andycanuck at August 20, 2012 06:11 AM (vDl/w)
Posted by: Ms Choksondik at August 20, 2012 06:11 AM (YOZSv)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 06:12 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Vic at August 20, 2012 06:12 AM (YdQQY)
It HAS been frozen for the last 2 years. Military pay went up both of those years.
Posted by: Taggart at August 20, 2012 06:12 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at August 20, 2012 06:12 AM (qZXps)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 10:12 AM (05RcU)
Local cops here start at 12K a year and go up to 20K unless they make "chief" which is a political position.
Posted by: Vic at August 20, 2012 06:13 AM (YdQQY)
Yup. You get about a $20K break for a year's tour. That's the combination of combat pay and not having to pay taxes in a combat zone.
I cleaned up when I was in Iraq. Then my ex spent it all and told me not to come home.
Posted by: Taggart at August 20, 2012 06:14 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Honey Badger, drinker of mead at August 20, 2012 06:14 AM (GvYeG)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at August 20, 2012 06:14 AM (qZXps)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 06:14 AM (05RcU)
"Still no proof that anybody in Elizabeth Warren's family has ever ridden an Indian"
Rumor has it that Chutch Lady's daughter rides a Kawasaki.
Posted by: Barackatainment Tonight at August 20, 2012 06:15 AM (QjSgY)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 20, 2012 06:15 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 06:15 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at August 20, 2012 06:16 AM (ovpNn)
Posted by: Thresherman at August 20, 2012 06:16 AM (Vbcjo)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 10:14 AM (05RcU)
Small town SC. State patrol makes more. So does SLED.
Posted by: Vic at August 20, 2012 06:17 AM (YdQQY)
I don't know what you're talking about. I'd need a link to comment. It may fall into the category of "the reporter has no fucking idea what they're talking about."
But I can tell you GS level pay has been frozen for two years.
Off sock!
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 20, 2012 06:17 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Jean at August 20, 2012 06:19 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 06:19 AM (05RcU)
I can't think of anything from Thursday that would give Obama a big boost, so maybe it was an outlier.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 20, 2012 10:04 AM (ZJNI6)</i>
If historical voting patterns hold and Romney takes 60-75% of those currently undecided, then the final result will probably be Romney by 2% or so. The Electoral College Scoreboard on Rasmussen Reports (http://tinyurl.com/cjny7a9) shows that Romney doesn't have much margin for error but if he takes at least four out of six of the "Toss-up" states (e.g., FL, IA, OH, VA), which will likely happen if he wins nationally by 2%, he wins the Electoral College with 272 EVs.
Posted by: Slappy at August 20, 2012 06:20 AM (LTbLf)
"Still no proof that anybody in Elizabeth Warren's family has ever ridden an Indian"
**
I don't get it.
Posted by: Megs Mac at August 20, 2012 06:20 AM (eavT+)
Posted by: Vic at August 20, 2012 06:21 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 06:21 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: comatus at August 20, 2012 06:21 AM (qaVK+)
Posted by: Golan Globus at August 20, 2012 06:22 AM (7vSU0)
Posted by: cicero skip at August 20, 2012 06:22 AM (3m9Uc)
Ah yes. Senior Executive Service. I don't believe they are under the same pay restrictions as the rest of us peons. There are way more of us peons than SES types.
However, bonuses are also not base pay. Check the link at my nic. That's the official OPM web site discussing the pay freeze. Check out item 4.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 20, 2012 06:23 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 20, 2012 06:23 AM (ZJNI6)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 06:24 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: sonnyspats at August 20, 2012 06:24 AM (Bm4aK)
In SOME places they did. That's the COLA adjustment. That did NOT happen in DC. I can tell you I am making the EXACT same amount I was making 2 years ago.
COLA is based on the local inflation rate. No inflation (as there is here in DC) then there is no adjustment. A very large chunk of the federal workforce in is DC. However, your point is correct, in some places there was a COLA adjustment.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 20, 2012 06:25 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: comatus at August 20, 2012 06:25 AM (qaVK+)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 06:25 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Jean at August 20, 2012 06:26 AM (WkuV6)
If Romney wins by 2%, he wins. The "states" won't matter.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 20, 2012 06:26 AM (ZJNI6)
Posted by: Gerry at August 20, 2012 06:26 AM (pGFQJ)
"do all the guys have wristbands on?"
Posted by: willow at August 20, 2012 09:46 AM (TomZ9)
Only the Posers without visible Gigantic Horror Tats
Posted by: 66chevelle at August 20, 2012 06:27 AM (QjSgY)
Posted by: Garry Trudeau at August 20, 2012 06:30 AM (msPO3)
Posted by: Honey Badger, drinker of mead at August 20, 2012 06:31 AM (GvYeG)
Posted by: Jean at August 20, 2012 06:32 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 06:33 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 06:33 AM (05RcU)
If Romney wins by 2%, he wins. The "states" won't matter.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 20, 2012 10:26 AM (ZJNI6)
Yeah, I agree with that analysis. It just becomes dicey if instead of winning by 2%, Romney only wins by .5-1%, which is certainly possible this year. It's just more difficult for the GOP nominee to win an Electoral College landslide nowadays than it is for the Democrat nominee since the Democrats can usually count on carrying four of the top six EV states (CA, NY, IL, PA) for 124 EVs and have a 50/50 chance of carrying FL for 153 EVs. The Democrats certainly have an easier path to 270 EVs.
Posted by: Slappy at August 20, 2012 06:35 AM (LTbLf)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 06:35 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Golan Globus at August 20, 2012 06:36 AM (7vSU0)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at August 20, 2012 06:36 AM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: Jean at August 20, 2012 06:37 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: Jean at August 20, 2012 06:39 AM (WkuV6)
When my people first arrived in Oklahoma, we had to wait until the rainy season to get a new thread.
Posted by: Lizzy Warren, wise gal at August 20, 2012 06:39 AM (z9HTb)
Because how many people you have isn't the problem. Having them in the right spots is the problem. Do we need more cooks? Or more linguists? More Special Ops types? Or more truck drivers?
Retention bonuses are just one of the tools in the box.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 20, 2012 06:39 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 06:41 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: comatus at August 20, 2012 06:41 AM (qaVK+)
Posted by: Golan Globus at August 20, 2012 06:42 AM (7vSU0)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 06:42 AM (05RcU)
White man come. He kill our women. He rape our buffalo.
--Elizabeth "Wind Between the Ears" Warren
Posted by: Mr. Dave at August 20, 2012 06:43 AM (OBDWE)
>>>so, we are stuck with this thread until 1:00 pm est?
We're stuck with SCoaMF until January, so this ain't nothing.
Posted by: Roy at August 20, 2012 06:43 AM (VndSC)
Knowing the wizards at the J-1? Yeah, probably. (No, I don't know specifically if that's going on)
That doesn't mean we don't need the tool, we just need people who know what they're doing using the tool.
BTW....this is also why government sucks at a lot of things. The monster is so big that the right hand often does not know what the left is doing. The solution is smaller government doing fewer things.
I am, of course, preaching to the choir.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 20, 2012 06:44 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 06:46 AM (05RcU)
The other thing I'd say about that story, and retention in general is....we just plain don't need as many senior people in some rates as we need in the lower rates. Someone has to do the labor.
So yeah, it's possible we're kicking out E-6s and then paying bonuses to EFNs (E-Fuckin'-Nuthin') to join certain specialties.
Congress mandates how many people you can have at what grade. The services figure out how many are needed in each specialty. The rest is all about math.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 20, 2012 06:47 AM (sbV1u)
It's like a shot from the worst Ron Howard movie you've ever seen. You know, the one where the old people discover a magical fountain of youth swimming pool, except it doesn't restore their looks at all. It just makes them think they're young and act stupid.
Turns out, the pool is filled with Valu-Rite.
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at August 20, 2012 06:48 AM (yxz7s)
At the time they were not putting women on sea duty and they sucked up all the shore billets.
Posted by: Vic at August 20, 2012 06:49 AM (YdQQY)
"Drone strikes will not matter to the MSM until a Republican takes over at the White House. Suddenly, they will become the most egregious war crime in history."
Even drone strikes on brown people pale in comparison to the white man's smallpox blankets which wiped out my whole family...ummm, except a couple of them who were somewhere else at the time.
Posted by: Elizabeth Red Herring Warren...Mann, sort of at August 20, 2012 06:50 AM (QjSgY)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 06:51 AM (05RcU)
http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/for/3153728449.html
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 20, 2012 06:52 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: and irresolute at August 20, 2012 06:52 AM (Q492A)
Thank God for kickstands, or else she would be crushed.
Please take the baseball card from the spokes when you leave
Posted by: KLH at August 20, 2012 06:54 AM (4+tm0)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 06:55 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: 66chevelle at August 20, 2012 07:00 AM (QjSgY)
Posted by: tc at August 20, 2012 07:03 AM (wb4qc)
Well, howdy stranger! Long time no see!
Posted by: Tami at August 20, 2012 07:03 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: tc at August 20, 2012 07:04 AM (wb4qc)
We are the ones making the logical leap that a 2% Rasmussen lead will exactly match a 2% Romney win. That is actually very unlikely to be true. Even being the most reliable pollster, he still is off by a few percentage points each time.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 20, 2012 07:05 AM (ZJNI6)
I can't think of anything from Thursday that would give Obama a big boost, so maybe it was an outlier.
Basic statistics: 1 out of every 20 polls will be an outlier (outside of the margin of error) even if methodology is 100% perfect. That is, even if Ras manages to perfectly randomly sample people, he will still have dud polls every 3 weeks. The "rolling average" is supposed to minimize this, but as we saw, one bad day changes everything.
You have to look at these things with a critical eye. If there's no reason for Obama's numbers to go up, they won't go up suddenly. Also, my guess is that Friday was also an unusually good polling day for Obama, so the margin should go back to its Romney +2-3 steady state until the conventions.
Interesting that now Ras and Gallup are in sync.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 20, 2012 07:08 AM (T0NGe)
They have no path to 270. They haven't had a path to 270 since they passed Obamacare.
Obama is unelectable.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 20, 2012 07:09 AM (ZJNI6)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 07:11 AM (05RcU)
Turns out to be an appropriate post for my mood. Seems like every employee saved up their stupid over the weekend to dump on me this morning.
I'm about to go Magua on someone's ass and cut out their heart in front of the entire staff.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 20, 2012 07:11 AM (APmL9)
Posted by: Jean at August 20, 2012 07:12 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: eman at August 20, 2012 07:12 AM (Wp4rQ)
Posted by: tc at August 20, 2012 11:03 AM (wb4qc)
Wez did it.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 20, 2012 07:12 AM (BAS5M)
When I see a bump, I usually look for a reason for it. I try not to rely on outliers, but as you said, on average every 20 days Rasmussen is going to get an outlier.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 20, 2012 07:12 AM (ZJNI6)
"President Obama likes to pick winners and losers - or in his case, losers."
HA!
Posted by: Miss Marple at August 20, 2012 07:13 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 20, 2012 07:13 AM (WrpGv)
That might overstate the case a bit.
I never underestimate the power of tribalism in American politics.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 20, 2012 07:13 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Berserker at August 20, 2012 07:13 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 07:14 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Jean at August 20, 2012 07:14 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 07:15 AM (05RcU)
4 years ago, Obama won it by 1-2%, and took the state by 9% in the general.
So there's that.
Posted by: Jay in Ames at August 20, 2012 07:15 AM (UEEex)
Posted by: eman at August 20, 2012 07:17 AM (Wp4rQ)
Posted by: Jean at August 20, 2012 07:18 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: Tami at August 20, 2012 11:03 AM (X6akg)
****
Howdy!
Life's been crazy lately. I've been out of work on sick leave for a few months now and during this time I'm transitioning from homeowner to renter again. So... working on the rental prior to moving in, trying to make it feel more like home, has kept me busy.
I'm drained and I'm eager to get back to normal and spend time with the morons and moronettes again.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 20, 2012 07:18 AM (piMMO)
I thought that too, but I gave too much credit to Independents being able to see he is a socialist. This time though, he has a record and it is abysmal.
You can't hide from the Misery Index.
The data that shows he can't win is right there for everyone to see, but people either don't want to see it, or are afraid to trust it.
Approval under 50% for the last 2 years.
Approval under 50% in every swing state.
GOP trusted on the economy by double digit advantage.
The top three issues to voters are economy, debt, and Obamacare.
The issue the Dems are trying to run on, abortion, is dead last in voter importance.
Just like the financial meltdown doomed McCain (who was nursing a small 5% lead at the time), the "stubborn economy" has doomed Obama. The only question left is will his desperation cause an epic implosion that results in a Romney landslide.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 20, 2012 07:21 AM (ZJNI6)
Posted by: Jean at August 20, 2012 07:21 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: billypaintbrush at August 20, 2012 07:23 AM (WqcDi)
Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at August 20, 2012 07:23 AM (J6kXj)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 20, 2012 11:18 AM (piMMO)
You have your hands full!
Don't over do it.....take care of yourself.
Posted by: Tami at August 20, 2012 07:23 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: eman at August 20, 2012 07:23 AM (Wp4rQ)
Posted by: soothsayer at August 20, 2012 07:24 AM (s5m4O)
Posted by: teej at August 20, 2012 07:24 AM (cWpCn)
Head out on the PARKway
Lookin' for OPRESSION
And whatever WE CAN TAKE way
Yeah WINGUNTS' WE'LL make it happen
Take YOUR SHIT IN A COMMIE embrace
SIEZE all of your guns at once
And THEN LAUGH IN YOUR FACE
I like SMOKIN DOOBIE
Heavy MICHELLE thunder
Racin' IN MY MOM JEANS
And the feelin' that I'm STEVIE WONDER
Yeah WINGUNTS' WE'LL make it happen
Take YOUR SHIT IN A COMMIE embrace
SIEZE all of your guns at once
And THEN LAUGH IN YOUR FACE
Like a true COMMIE JOE
We were born, born to be SLOW
We can SINK SO LOW
I never want to GO
FIFY
Posted by: giftogab at August 20, 2012 07:24 AM (QW2hm)
Posted by: eman at August 20, 2012 07:25 AM (Wp4rQ)
Posted by: Jean at August 20, 2012 07:26 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: teej at August 20, 2012 11:24 AM (cWpCn)
Sorry to hear that teej. Sucks.
Posted by: Tami at August 20, 2012 07:26 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 07:26 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 20, 2012 07:28 AM (jucos)
Now if Obama were running against McCain, I'd be willing to give him a chance. But the Romney Election Robot isn't going to give him something smear him with.
They tried the "evil rich guy" tactic, and it didn't move the needle. All they had left was throwing grandma off the cliff, but Romney neutralized that too.
Maybe he will try bombing Iran in October, but I wouldn't be surprised if Romney is ready for that.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 20, 2012 07:29 AM (ZJNI6)
Posted by: Jean at August 20, 2012 07:30 AM (WkuV6)
Me, I'm sick of all the political bullshit. I've turned off the television. I'm sick of the political talking heads and if I hear the SCOAMF's voice one more time my head will explode.
Not going to turn on the television till the VP debate. I'm catching up on all the shows I've missed watching Roku.
Posted by: mpfs at August 20, 2012 07:30 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 20, 2012 07:31 AM (APmL9)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 07:31 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: teej at August 20, 2012 07:31 AM (cWpCn)
Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at August 20, 2012 07:32 AM (J6kXj)
Posted by: mpfs at August 20, 2012 07:32 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: Jean at August 20, 2012 07:32 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren, serious person at August 20, 2012 07:33 AM (z9HTb)
Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at August 20, 2012 07:34 AM (J6kXj)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 20, 2012 07:34 AM (VtjlW)
http://is.gd/9zUboT
You'll never guess who they are.
Posted by: Vic at August 20, 2012 07:34 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: ErikW at August 20, 2012 07:34 AM (WbViZ)
Posted by: the pink cracker formerly known as the hobbit Donna at August 20, 2012 07:36 AM (W2Z3C)
That sounds pretty AIDSy.
You know who was a vegetarian artist?
Hitler.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 20, 2012 07:36 AM (T0NGe)
****
They're a private club, and didn't have to do it, but I'm glad they did. And, they gain some additional smidgen of prestige as well. Condi Rice isn't a bad name to have on a membership roster.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 20, 2012 07:36 AM (piMMO)
Augusta has accepted the first two women into their golf club. One is Condi Rice.
Posted by: mpfs at August 20, 2012 11:32 AM (iYbLN)
I'll bet Martha Burke is wailing and gnashing her teeth.
Posted by: ErikW at August 20, 2012 07:37 AM (WbViZ)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 20, 2012 07:37 AM (VtjlW)
This time I think it's up for grabs--the irresistible force of the economy meets the immoveable object of the MSM.
I don't know whether Romney can bend the American trajectory the way Reagan did, but if Obama wins, though, that's it. We're toast at least for my lifetime.
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at August 20, 2012 07:38 AM (yxz7s)
Posted by: teej at August 20, 2012 07:38 AM (erYRT)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 20, 2012 07:39 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, straight outta New Cap City at August 20, 2012 07:40 AM (GBXon)
I love how they did this, too. No big deal and no pressure from the outside.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 20, 2012 07:40 AM (T0NGe)
Did Mitt say there were going to be Obamacare waivers for all 50 states? We need to see it in writing ASAP. Did he make a promise to end drilling moratoriums? Show me the executive order now. How about a written plan to deal with some of the malignant cancers like EPA and State Department?
Boehner's written resignation from the speakership would help too.
Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at August 20, 2012 07:41 AM (SDkq3)
They have a remarkable ability to not vote for an incumbent, just when you really need them too. It has something to do with them being independent, I guess.
Every poll I've seen, even the insane over sampled D+19 polls, show the independents going for Romney by double digits. Since Obama won them handily in 2008, this is not a good sign.
Obama's only mathematical path to victory is if Dem Voters > GOP Voters + Independent Voter GOP differential. That is a very unlikely scenario, which is why you see D+19 polls only giving Obama a 10 point lead. If the turnout is like 2004 (D+2) or 2010 (even) then Obama loses badly. He could even be in serious trouble with a 2008 turnout (D+7).
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 20, 2012 07:41 AM (ZJNI6)
Augusta has accepted the first two women into their golf club. One is Condi Rice.
Well, obviously she doesn't count. Or something.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 20, 2012 07:41 AM (B+qrE)
>>>Does Condi even play golf?
I hope they tell her that Obama can come, but only if he is her caddie.
Posted by: Roy at August 20, 2012 07:41 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 20, 2012 07:42 AM (APmL9)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 07:44 AM (05RcU)
Full results tomorrow.
Posted by: Jay at August 20, 2012 07:44 AM (3LaGb)
I wondered the same thing and yes she does. And from the article it sounds like she's pretty good (though since I don't play I could be wrong on that.
Golf Digest interview.
http://tinyurl.com/8qfvv4m
Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 20, 2012 07:44 AM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: Joe Biden at August 20, 2012 07:44 AM (msPO3)
*****
From the link a little earlier, she's a financier from SC.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 20, 2012 07:44 AM (piMMO)
PPP, a Democratic Polling Firm, just announced on Twitter they have Romney ahead of SCOAMF in Wisconsin.
Dear Gerg,
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 20, 2012 07:45 AM (B+qrE)
Posted by: Jean at August 20, 2012 07:45 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 20, 2012 07:46 AM (pLTLS)
http://bit.ly/OQ3hPs
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at August 20, 2012 07:46 AM (yxz7s)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 20, 2012 07:46 AM (jucos)
Full results tomorrow.
Posted by: Jay at August 20, 2012 11:44 AM (3LaGb)
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Leinie's and Brats for Everyone!!
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 20, 2012 07:46 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 07:46 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 10:42 AM (05RcU)
The 800 lbs gorilla in the room? Check the ethnic/sexual identity makeup of those who have been thrown out.
Remember, the NUMBER 1 mission for the "Force for Good" US Navy is now 'Diversity'.... well that and wasting money on Green Fuel...
Posted by: Romeo13, with a new improoved Red White and Blue Tinfoil Hat at August 20, 2012 07:46 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 20, 2012 07:47 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Jean at August 20, 2012 07:47 AM (WkuV6)
Like I say with Zogby, take with a grain of salt.
However, I can pretty confidently say that under no circumstances does Obama win while losing Wisconsin.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 20, 2012 07:47 AM (ZJNI6)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, straight outta New Cap City at August 20, 2012 07:48 AM (GBXon)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 07:49 AM (05RcU)
Well looks like they are both Republican conservatives.
I would imagine the Augusta membership is rather heavily slanted in that direction.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 20, 2012 07:49 AM (B+qrE)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 20, 2012 07:49 AM (jucos)
Posted by: Jean at August 20, 2012 07:50 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 07:50 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 20, 2012 07:50 AM (jucos)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 20, 2012 07:51 AM (pLTLS)
So, what morning zoo radio could the President call for ten minutes to swing Wisconsin back his way?
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 20, 2012 07:51 AM (B+qrE)
Trust me, it will be "too close to call" with 98% of the precincts in. I remember in 2004 when the networks refused to call Virginia. And later, they refused to call (I think) Idaho, because it would give Bush 271.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 20, 2012 07:52 AM (ZJNI6)
Posted by: theCork at August 20, 2012 07:52 AM (hbAdE)
When you have PPP even, that's pretty bad for a democrat in WI. They called the recall +3 Walker with a potential dem upset when Walker won +7.
Poor Nate Silver's going to have to hand-tune his model yet again to compensate.
Posted by: Uriah Heep at August 20, 2012 07:53 AM (Wa+Fw)
Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at August 20, 2012 07:54 AM (J6kXj)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 20, 2012 07:54 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 07:54 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 20, 2012 07:54 AM (jucos)
Mitt Romney's 2007 tax return just hijacked a truckload of cigs on I-65 outside of Nashville.
Developing...
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 20, 2012 07:57 AM (B+qrE)
Posted by: LIGuy at August 20, 2012 07:57 AM (+usC4)
Sound crazy? Maybe it is, but ever since Jesse Ventura, the Minnesota Democrat (DFL) party has been moribund and Minnesota has had three-way elections for almost every major statewide office ever since.
It makes me think of an electorate that's been married to a philanderer. She doesn't want to be with him, but she doesn't want to go to someone new just yet.
And then, in the so-called "Iron Range", a Democrat stronghold, they kicked out their long-serving Democrat Congressman. Mostly because of Obamacare. That was huge. The Iron Range is like West Virginia or Western PA -- more conservative than most Republican states, but still voting Democrat like their grandpappy did.
Losing the Iron Range really hurts the DFL and if that is a substantial shift in attitudes there, Romney might just carry the state. Wisconsin bordering Minnesota doesn't hurt either.
Of course, if Romney happens to take Minnesota, it won't matter that he takes Minnesota.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 20, 2012 07:57 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: theCork at August 20, 2012 07:57 AM (hbAdE)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 20, 2012 07:57 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: theCork at August 20, 2012 07:59 AM (hbAdE)
Posted by: Jean at August 20, 2012 08:00 AM (WkuV6)
I'd be interested in hearing the backstory on Augusta. Hope they did it because they choose to go that route rather than caving to the political correctness and the femibathags.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 20, 2012 11:51 AM (pLTLS)
I'm sure it was voted on and approved by the membership. I would be VERY surprised if there were any outside influence.
I'm glad they made the move. There's nothing to be gained by excluding women from membership although as a private club, it was their right to do so.
Now the feminists have no reason to bitch every time the Masters rolls around.
Posted by: ErikW at August 20, 2012 08:00 AM (XHQgs)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone reprobate at August 20, 2012 08:01 AM (V3hr1)
Posted by: The Political Hat at August 20, 2012 08:01 AM (sZTYJ)
Posted by: Jean at August 20, 2012 08:01 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: Romeo13, with a new improoved Red White and Blue Tinfoil Hat at August 20, 2012 08:02 AM (lZBBB)
Like any left wing group they will never be satisfied. The narrative will just change to percentage or something along those lines.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 20, 2012 08:02 AM (tf9Ne)
"Mt Gretna is a planned artists' community <<<<<
That sounds pretty AIDSy."
ROFL
I wonder if they took an abandoned K-Mart and make it look like an old brick warehouse.
Posted by: 66chevelle at August 20, 2012 08:03 AM (QjSgY)
Posted by: mrp at August 20, 2012 08:03 AM (HjPtV)
Posted by: Justamom at August 20, 2012 08:03 AM (Sptt8)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 20, 2012 08:04 AM (ZJNI6)
We shouldn't be talking about the lousy economy when we haven't had a proper discussion about Romney's TPS reports.
Posted by: DNC strategist at August 20, 2012 08:05 AM (cQpP1)
http://tinyurl.com/93n4v3w
It's called, All Your Worth.
Posted by: Cicero at August 20, 2012 08:05 AM (QKKT0)
Okay so it's nearly lunch time and do I want some tasty tasty haterade and chicken sammich of spite or do I want to go to the little Greek place with the gyros? Decisions decisions.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 20, 2012 11:54 AM (VtjlW)
Instead of having to drive 8 miles away during lunch, they just broke ground for a new H8Chicken place a block away from the shop.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 20, 2012 08:05 AM (TIIx5)
Posted by: 66chevelle at August 20, 2012 08:06 AM (QjSgY)
The Horde mind reels with "vegan substitutions for clam"...
Now the feminists have no reason to bitch every time the Masters rolls around.
When has "no reason to bitch" ever stopped them?!
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 20, 2012 08:06 AM (/kI1Q)
I just applied for my first 1099 Contract job (huge jump in pay from current position, plus nearly an hour closer to home). Given there are far more openings in DFW for BizTalk types (which just happens to be my specialty) than there are BizTalk dev/admins, there's a good chance I'll land the gig.
Now, it's contract to hire (NOT going straight contract, nuh-uh), but that's approx 3 mos that I would be 1099. Any suggestions from the 'rons on how to handle that tax situation?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 20, 2012 08:08 AM (8y9MW)
In fact, I don't think anyone is fighting in any state that McCain won in 2008. It's all in states that Obama won and even in some states that Bush lost (PA and WI).
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 20, 2012 08:09 AM (ZJNI6)
'Lizzie Warren took an axe,
and gave her credibility forty whacks.
And when she saw what she had done,
she gave it another forty - plus one.'
Posted by: The Watcher at August 20, 2012 08:09 AM (guneC)
Posted by: Lobo at August 20, 2012 08:09 AM (yc0bf)
Posted by: Jean at August 20, 2012 08:12 AM (WkuV6)
Like any left wing group they will never be satisfied. The narrative will just change to percentage or something along those lines.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 20, 2012 12:02 PM (tf9Ne)
Yeah, true dat. I'm sure someone somewhere will write an article that the first women invited to Augusta National were evil rich Conservatives.
Who fucking cares? If sponsors decide to boycott again (they won't) Billy Payne can go all Hootie Johnson and say, "Okay, fuck you. We're Augusta. We don't need your damned commercials."
And that would be the end of that.
Posted by: ErikW at August 20, 2012 08:13 AM (XHQgs)
Unlike me, you should pay them.
Posted by: Tim Geithner at August 20, 2012 08:15 AM (QKKT0)
I'll take anything an open thread, cat thread, cooking thread ANYTHING!
Posted by: General Woundwort at August 20, 2012 08:15 AM (06lNq)
Posted by: teej at August 20, 2012 08:15 AM (o+6HV)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 20, 2012 08:16 AM (0q2P7)
WTF? I always thought that was particularly dickish to do to someone who was a good employee and just got laid off. I guess with all the wackjobs out there, it's not a big thing. Just rubs me the wrong way.
Sorry to hear teej. Good luck moving forward.
And my gut reaction? Give em both barrels (figuratively) in the meeting.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 20, 2012 08:16 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Nukie at August 20, 2012 08:19 AM (Kqtqx)
I know there were Augusta members pushing for a woman. "Hey, how about Condi?" would even get the stuffy members on board.
(I guess they probably had behind-the-scenes discussions verifying that she'd actually accept and pay the dues.)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 20, 2012 08:21 AM (T0NGe)
I'm not a tax expert except in paying them, but all my income is 1099. If you make 1099 income, you have to pay quarterlies equal to 100% of your prior year tax bill to avoid penalties. Since your 1099 income will last less than a full year, you could factor this in to reduce the payments, but if you miss your guess and pay too little, you'll be penalized. If you get a refund at the end of the year, I don't believe any penalties apply, even if you underpaid your quarterlies.
Posted by: Cicero at August 20, 2012 08:21 AM (QKKT0)
Get QuickenBooks or Quikbooks.
Eneter in your 1099 pay receiveds and it will give you the amount you need to have for you Medicare/Soc Sec tax burden...
you'll need to keep track of whether or not to make quarterly payments to those two items based on total 1099 inc shown.
The latest version of those programs will also tally % of pay as likely tax burden....or call the summer number for HR Block or a CPA....no biggie you'll find you understand you tax issues a lot more clearly from now and TRULY understand the horror of Uncle taking 25% of your wage potential off the top.
Best Luck,
sven
Posted by: sven10077 at August 20, 2012 08:22 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 20, 2012 08:22 AM (9TTOe)
No Alextc, I'm not that type. My instructor used to give me hell for my attitude of not throwing the first punch even if I knew there was going to be a fight. That would change if there was an innocent to protect of course.
Also, it's a state dept of trans job so they initially cut by position (I made it through that one) but have been bumped by someone who has been there longer. First govt job since the post office right after I got out of the service. They asked me to stay at the end of every summer but didn't to go back to school. Long story but due to a move, new baby etc I never got a degree. Was one hell of an enviornmental lab tech but another long story (divorce hell) cost me that one.
Have always worked the private sector till 5 years ago. Showed 'em how it's supposed to be done when I started there work ethic wise but to no avail.
Such is life.
Posted by: teej at August 20, 2012 08:23 AM (o+6HV)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 20, 2012 08:24 AM (9TTOe)
****
The link at 323 tells the story. It seems that with the right leadership, adding women to the roster was the natural course.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 20, 2012 08:24 AM (piMMO)
Obama won every one of those states in 2008.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 20, 2012 08:24 AM (ZJNI6)
Posted by: Misunderstood Slogans at August 20, 2012 08:25 AM (JVEmw)
Posted by: Havedash at August 20, 2012 08:25 AM (F0WNa)
largely correct there is some wiggle room, but not a lot and IRS is getting harder on it and will continue to do so as we discussed the other day on the "1099 race"....
Also remember if 1099 is your new normal you will probably want to track itemization data points like business mileage and deductible business expenses.
Keep track of your income potential and adjust your quarterlies for next tax season accordingly.
regards,
sven
ps since I lack the precise data any and all advice I offer on taxes is not a definite reflection on my analysis as a lvl 3 tax Prep for or the opinion of myself or any other tax preparing agency
Posted by: sven10077 at August 20, 2012 08:25 AM (LRFds)
while not bad advice remember that as you collate your data unless you are forced to file as married filing separate you need to decide whether probable rate of tax exceeds automatic deduction rates for your situation, also be careful about claiming too many genuine deductions or you may fall into the AMT trap.
regards,
sven
Posted by: sven10077 at August 20, 2012 08:28 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 20, 2012 08:28 AM (9TTOe)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 08:31 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 20, 2012 12:28 PM (9TTOe)
Yeah, I've thought about that too...but didn't Kissinger date and get married while he was in office...or sometime around there? Like you said, it doesn't matter...just curious that that aspect of her life seems strangely quiet...even from the left.
Posted by: Havedash at August 20, 2012 08:31 AM (F0WNa)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 20, 2012 08:31 AM (9TTOe)
We'll probably know tomorrow. I expect they are doing heavy polling a focus group work right now to measure the damage. If he really is screwed (which isn't a given) and they can convince him he can't win, then he would withdraw. The GOP executive board then gets to select a replacement candidate. My guess would be Brunning if that is the case. I doubt that Steeleman did herself any favors by publicly criticizing today.
On the other hand, if they find out that they can still win this despite the stupid interview, then he will be spending a week visiting rape crisis centers. His biggest problem is likely fund raising now. He will need a ton of money to fight, and out of state money will go places like MA and VA.
Clearly the Romney campaign decided to jettison him, given how fast they were to issue a strong personal repudiation from the candidate himself.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 20, 2012 08:32 AM (ZJNI6)
Posted by: alexthechick -f u autocorrect at August 20, 2012 08:32 AM (yf2S8)
Hah. Easier said than done. My income fluctuates from year to year so this screws up my tax situation constantly. I had a banner year last year because of a big case that I won and I ended up hugely underpaying for the year (since my payments were based on my prior, not-so-great year). I wrote a big check for the difference in April. Worse, I'm paying quarterlies this year based on last year's income and its killing me since I'm unlikely to do nearly that well this year. Because of this, I've paid about 60% of my income to Uncle Sam in calendar year 2012 so far.
This Going Galt thing is looking better all the time.
Posted by: Cicero at August 20, 2012 08:33 AM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 20, 2012 08:33 AM (9TTOe)
My FIL has an actual, honest to God, list for when/if he was ever diagnosed with a terminal illness.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 20, 2012 08:34 AM (da5Wo)
She was engaged to an NFL player from Ohio at one point. I think her last "male companion" was a basketball player (from her generation, obviously, when the non-European players weren't all half-wit thugs).
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 20, 2012 08:34 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: EC at August 20, 2012 08:35 AM (GQ8sn)
You got something against yurts?
Posted by: The Mongols at August 20, 2012 08:35 AM (QKKT0)
Posted by: alexthechick -f u autocorrect at August 20, 2012 12:32 PM (yf2S
Posted by: Havedash at August 20, 2012 08:35 AM (F0WNa)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 08:36 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: soothsayer at August 20, 2012 08:36 AM (p9J/w)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 20, 2012 08:36 AM (9TTOe)
Posted by: Cicero at August 20, 2012 12:33 PM (QKKT0)
Uh.... those tax rates are SUGGESTIONS... you can pay what you want for quarterlies... and there are programs out there which will figure it out based on current income..
Posted by: Romeo13, with a new improoved Red White and Blue Tinfoil Hat at August 20, 2012 08:37 AM (lZBBB)
Unless Squiggy there can poll the dead, it's not an accurate picture of Cook County.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 20, 2012 08:38 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Jean at August 20, 2012 08:39 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 08:40 AM (05RcU)
It'll only get more complicated. I never got approval from my shop manager to use it but my sincerest appraisal of benefit/risk potential says that self-incorporation as an LLC fortified by volunteer work on a topic related to your field is the best protection for some narrow set of craftwork and skills. "Employee" vote buying measures are going to create a market for "not employees".
I was accused of Waler mitty hood on another thread and not wanting to whine or rehash, I'd like to reiterate I have been a failure to one degree or another in all my pursuits but two: a narrow application of HazMat work for an airline, and my work as a Tax Prep specialist.
Not knowing your precise history "going galt" while still using your skills may best be served by offering "contract work" as a "troubleshooter" in your field and just taking overload pulse work.
My son is almost latchkey age and I am deciding whether to pursue becoming an enrolled agent for audit defense, go back into hazmat work despite my fears, or drive a semi since that is sort of "the family business" I am most suited for since my military career did not work out after my injury.
I wish you the best of luck Cicero, your posts are always well reasoned.
regards,
sven
Posted by: sven10077 at August 20, 2012 08:40 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: JDflorida at August 20, 2012 08:40 AM (61QpA)
****
Worse than a Top Gun sequel is the remaking of Rockford Files with Vince FrigginVaughn in the starring role.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 20, 2012 08:40 AM (piMMO)
A poll conducted by Illinois-based pollster and political strategist Michael McKeon found Obama leading Republican Mitt Romney by 49 percent to 37 percent in Cook County, the home of Chicago. That puts him ahead by a far thinner margin than expected in a county he should be winning handsomely.
Cook is the most Democratic leaning county in the state. It is also the most populous.
Those numbers do not bode well for the president.
Familiarity breeds contempt
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 12:36 PM (05RcU)
It's also the most corrupt. The dipshits in Chicago would vote for him if he ate their dogs
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 20, 2012 08:43 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 20, 2012 08:43 AM (9TTOe)
Posted by: 'NAM Grunt at August 20, 2012 08:43 AM (8Hnjw)
>>Worse than a Top Gun sequel is the remaking of Rockford Files with Vince FrigginVaughn in the starring role.
Poor Vince, he's going to have to start purging again.
Posted by: garrett at August 20, 2012 08:44 AM (apgKV)
A chance to gain superpowers should settle that question.
Posted by: EC at August 20, 2012 08:45 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 20, 2012 08:45 AM (9TTOe)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 08:46 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Havedash at August 20, 2012 08:46 AM (F0WNa)
Posted by: Donna V. at August 20, 2012 08:47 AM (EflcN)
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Teej, I'm reminded of the time I had a supervisor take me upstairs to the big boss's office so he could let the boss's secretary fire me while he sat there. I looked her in the eye and said, "Don't trust this character." Then, as he was escorting me out of the building, I swerved aside and stepped into the conference room where my former colleagues were gathered. I said cheerfully -- and loud enough for my ex-supervisor to hear: "He just fired me, boys. Don't trust him. Good luck!" And then I walked out.
I heard later that he got fired -- by his own replacement! So, sometimes there is justice in the world!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 20, 2012 08:48 AM (exvgC)
Posted by: maddogg at August 20, 2012 08:48 AM (OlN4e)
Dear Lord, is nothing from my childhood sacred?
Rockford Files movie, teh Google says.
>>Universal Studios is developing a motion picture version of TV's The Rockford Files to star Vince Vaughn as, presumably, Firebird-driving private detective Jim Rockford.
Posted by: Mama AJ at August 20, 2012 08:48 AM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 20, 2012 08:49 AM (9TTOe)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2012 08:50 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Donna V. at August 20, 2012 08:50 AM (EflcN)
Posted by: Havedash at August 20, 2012 08:50 AM (F0WNa)
President Barack Obama, the man Romney hopes to replace in the White House, will give a videotaped speech to the Legion that will be shown on Aug. 28.
http://is.gd/zQaKxU
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 20, 2012 08:50 AM (/kI1Q)
I did gain a super power already....headaches, inarticulate posting style, and a cancer scare that probably aged me 5 years in 5 days.
I had a cyst in my liver(probably still do I need a check up in 3 months) as long as my pinkie tip to my wrist and as wide as a pencile the Doc down at fort polk thought was either some weird parasite(offered I think as a joke) or a tumor that may or may not have been malignant. Went through a battery of tests while my wife was in Iraq because I didn't want to worry her and they decided they were 95% sure it was benign. As a bonus I got into a 13 month argument with my doc at the hospital about whether or not my gallbladder had to take a walk.
My mother in law God bless her wanted me to sue the airline I worked for...I had to explain to her politely that even if I KNEW that exposure on the job was to blame I would not bite the hand that fed me.
Trust me they did not give me the money I made for my charming disposition, I was never under any illusion that in all our jobs we literally sell people our time.
regards,
sven
Posted by: sven10077 at August 20, 2012 08:50 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Waterhouse at August 20, 2012 08:50 AM (xr29d)
I think you're really under-rating alcohol. Maybe you're not using it correctly.
Posted by: Cicero at August 20, 2012 08:52 AM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, Vt at August 20, 2012 08:52 AM (48wze)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 20, 2012 08:53 AM (9TTOe)
Time for some FTC lawsuits!!!! Sue 'em into the arms of lobbyists, I say.
Posted by: Avg Government Hack [/i] [/b] at August 20, 2012 08:54 AM (Q/1Jp)
Lmfao. I gotta stop reading the HQ at work.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 20, 2012 08:55 AM (da5Wo)
Rockford Files movie, teh Google says.
>>Universal Studios is developing a motion picture version of TV's The Rockford Files to star Vince Vaughn as, presumably, Firebird-driving private detective Jim Rockford.
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We keep hearing rumors of a "Man from U.N.C.L.E." movie. The last time, it was Bradley Cooper ("The Hangover") tapped to play the hero, Napoleon Solo (remember Robert Vaughn? He was Da Man!).
My brain bleached itself when I heard.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 20, 2012 08:55 AM (exvgC)
I blame it on Sarah Palin.
If Palin hadn't endorsed Sarah Steelman for the senate seat in Missouri, Todd Akin would have been less nervous in his interview and would not have fucked up on abortion so bad.
It's all her fault.
Posted by: jwest at August 20, 2012 08:55 AM (ZDsRL)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at August 20, 2012 08:57 AM (8Hnjw)
Posted by: OCBill at August 20, 2012 08:58 AM (YJvVE)
Anybody up for a remake of Sky King?
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I can see it now . . . with Bruce Willis as maverick high-flying rancher Schuyler "Sky" King.
"Welcome to the party, pal!"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 20, 2012 08:59 AM (exvgC)
Oh that shit's been in the works forever. Apparently the plot is that he's a Top Gun instructor and meets up with a headstrong anti-establishment student who is.... DUN DUN DUNNNNNN.... a woman!!11!!eleventy!!
Oh and you *absolutely must* get the Rifftrax.com commentary for Top Gun. One of the funniest things I've ever heard.
Posted by: Filly at August 20, 2012 09:02 AM (flZ3r)
My brain bleached itself when I heard.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 20, 2012 12:55 PM (exvgC)
Barry's boyfriend, Clooney was supposed to play Solo but bowed out. That movie (thankfully) doesn't seem like it will get made.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 20, 2012 09:06 AM (1Jaio)
Dear Lord, is nothing from my childhood sacred?
Rockford Files movie, teh Google says.
>>Universal Studios is developing a motion picture version of TV's The Rockford Files to star Vince Vaughn as, presumably, Firebird-driving private detective Jim Rockford.
Posted by: Mama AJ at August 20, 2012 12:48 PM (SUKHu)
Terrific. Next up, big screen version of "Magnum, PI" starring Pauly Shore as Magnum.
Posted by: Slappy at August 20, 2012 09:15 AM (LTbLf)
"Welcome to the party, pal!"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 20, 2012 12:59 PM (exvgC)
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Or "ho ho ho, motherfucker". Drew Carey or Tom Arnold will be co-starring as Sky King's comical sidekick, Pat Brady.
(Actually, I think it would be quite entertaining.)
Posted by: Soona at August 20, 2012 09:20 AM (7POpr)
movie. The last time, it was Bradley Cooper ("The Hangover") tapped to
play the hero, Napoleon Solo (remember Robert Vaughn? He was Da Man!).
My brain bleached itself when I heard.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 20, 2012 12:55 PM (exvgC)
Barry's boyfriend, Clooney was supposed to play Solo but bowed out. That movie (thankfully) doesn't seem like it will get made.
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The irony is that Clooney would have been perfect, had they mounted an U.N.C.L.E. movie when he was younger -- say about the time he did "From Dusk Til Dawn" in the '90s. The "Ocean's Eleven" and succeeding films have just the right flavor for an U.N.C.L.E. film, too.
My nightmare is that some studio goes ahead with it, and casts Ben Stiller and Owen Wilson as Solo and Illya, two bumbling "spies" for an underfunded US intelligence agency, with Kevin James ("King of Queens") as their idiot boss, Mr. Waverly. The mind doesn't just reel, it launches itself into space. . . .
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 20, 2012 09:58 AM (exvgC)
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