May 30, 2012

Caution & Optimism on Wisconsin, and a Thank You
— CAC

Now, after all the public polling has consistently shown Walker up, there is this tiny voice in the back of my head saying, "they could be wrong."

It has been there the whole time, especially after weeks of positive data for Walker. Hell, the Democrats took THIS long to push out a tied poll that oversampled Madison and Milwaukee. They waited until Wednesday before. Which I had predicted would happen in previous threads.

But no matter. Incorporating all the Democratic push polls on a trend line, Pollster finds the race a close one, with Walker up less than a point. When these push polls are removed, as Nate Silver of Five Thirty Eight thinks they should (and he's not exactly sympathetic to Walker), Walker's lead explodes.

So what if they are actually somewhat right?

There are a few things that can happen that can cost Walker the race at this point. I'll refute most of them, but the "sleepless nights" biggie is number 4:

1) ALL the data available is wrong.
Every single professional pollster is totally off the mark and Barrett wins this hands down. Very, very, very unlikely, as the on-the-ground evidence of enthusiasm doesn't back this up. Through Tuesday, only 21,600 votes were cast early in Madison and Milwaukee. 133,000 asbsentees (including these early votes) were issued through yesterday. The Republican party sent out 500,000 forms for absentees for voters to help counter any early ground ops by the Democrats and to avoid discouragement of voters by long lines. If we were looking at 50, 60, 70,000 vote totals out of the largest areas after over a solid week and a half of early voting, I would be saying the numbers are wrong, but I just don't see it. Republicans are showing up for early voting. Milwaukee and Dane have a total population 25 times larger than Brookfield, Wisconsin (in Waukesha), but Brookfield has already issued 3500 absentees and received 2550 back. There is solid logic in thinking a lot of these early votes/absentees being reported are pro-Walker.

2) The Republican GOTV does not materialize in the Milwaukee burbs, Green Bay, and the western upper third of the state. Again, hardly likely. These areas have the largest victory offices for Walker, have had tremendous requests for absentee ballots, and may match or beat Dane County turnout levels (see the Brookfield statistics above).

3) Analysis of margin victories per region are way off.
This could be likely, especially if there is a shockingly enormous turnout in the largest Democratic regions NOT matched by the rest of the state, but again from the numbers we actually have, that is not materializing. To win the state, Barrett needs to build upon his 160,000 vote margin gained from Dane and Milwaukee in 2010 by about another 65,000 and maintain his 2010 levels in the rest of the state. The polling by Marquette finds him drowning in the enormous Milwaukee Metro area and getting pulverized everywhere west and northward outside of Madison. Fraud accusations aside, had Bush won the same counties and margins Walker did, or even Prosser, in much of Northern and Western Wisconsin, he would have beaten Gore and Kerry. On the ground volunteer efforts may help Barrett in SW/W Wisconsin to keep "BlueWis" solid, but even in the primary, several of these Kerry/Gore/Obama counties went more for Walker than all the Democrats combined.

Barrett has a very, very narrow path that involves explosive turnout OUTSIDE of his base cities and depressed Republican turnout. The recent push polls showing a closer race may backfire on Democratic plans to psyche out Republicans- by convincing them that the race is actually closer, you give the right an even stronger reason to turn out and save their guy.

4. Overconfidence amongst the Republicans.
More and more analysts are calling the race for Walker. Intrade has him sky high. I don't put the Governor's odds anywhere near the 94% level that trading site is giving him, but he has a solid shot, somewhere in the high 70s, of beating this thing. Overconfidence worries me, so always go into an election thinking your candidate is losing. If the line is long and you need to get to work, tell your boss you came down with ebola and you'll be running late. Take nothing for granted here.
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Above anything else, my love of data and numbers makes me want to be right, even if it pains me. I was prepared for some polls showing tightening today (not the silly Dem poll, but the serious Marquette Law), because of the noise the left keeps saying about "the right has no idea its totally the opposite!". Well, Marquette confirmed what I already sensed- the race is in the mid-single digits for Walker and the left is on red alert to stop that. The question is, are we on red alert to keep him there?

I get a lot of you are pissed that we keep talking about Wisconsin. Every day, another poll, or news article, or map. We are almost through on this. After recall night coverage Tuesday, I will be taking a short hiatus from co-blogging here. I'll be dropping by to update the daily tracker, maybe shoot Ace an email, but constantly watching all the info trickling in wears you down, and I need to be ready to help out when the general election heats up. My fiancee has been incredibly supportive, loading me with coffee to stay awake to get the jump on the latest bit down the pipe. I want to thank all of you in Wisconsin and elsewhere for posting various reports, tweeting over polling and commentary, and emailing me some good leads on this race. I also want to thank Ace publicly for giving me the opportunity to share all of this data ripping through my brain.

After weeks of effort, the guest bloggers, morons, moronettes, and lurkers who are collectively working on bringing full coverage Tuesday night will, with a little luck, cap off what I hope has been a helpful and accurate resource for you. We won't spin the results and will make the call, even if its the one we loathe the most. I thank all of you for taking the news shared here productively, and hopefully the fruit of the efforts of millions involved in this fight will be victory for Walker in six short days. Thanks for following along, and remember: this fight is far from over. Do your part.

Posted by: CAC at 01:48 PM | Comments (46)
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1 Sounds like something Allahpundit would write.

Posted by: innominatus at May 30, 2012 02:05 PM (tq6K2)

2 Any way to get an update on Wisconsin?

Posted by: slatz at May 30, 2012 02:06 PM (zFXQB)

3 I'd like to buy some cheese.

Posted by: Al at May 30, 2012 02:07 PM (MzQOZ)

4 It's a strangling feeling, watching this from outside of Wisconsin. A helplessness and raw nerves.

Posted by: pls win at May 30, 2012 02:07 PM (HOOye)

5 So you're saying that maybe you've been right on your poll predictions OR maybe you're wrong.  Thanks for the incisive analysis, CAC.   

Posted by: Soona at May 30, 2012 02:07 PM (dVXgD)

6 It's been three hours since the last thread on the Wisconsin election.  I thought the entire state had disappeared or something.

Posted by: Cicero at May 30, 2012 02:07 PM (QKKT0)

7 Overconfidence, underconfidence - I'm sick of hearing about it and just want it over-with at this point. When the eff is it?

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at May 30, 2012 02:07 PM (oipCQ)

8 Jesus, if you are this cranky when you are winning...

Posted by: Oldcat at May 30, 2012 02:08 PM (z1N6a)

9 I get a lot of you are pissed that we keep talking about Wisconsin.

Tell them to bugger off.  If they don't want to read it, they can move their damn eyeballs elsewhere.  I deeply appreciate all of your work on this. 

Posted by: pep at May 30, 2012 02:09 PM (6TB1Z)

10 CAC - the numbers on intrade and polls are an *effect* of the Republicans being motivated, not an unrelated issue.

They are no more likely to stay home because they are ahead than a shark is likely to go home when it smells blood in the water.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 30, 2012 02:10 PM (z1N6a)

11 Well done, CAC.


Posted by: 13times at May 30, 2012 02:11 PM (h6XiD)

12 BTW, CAC, I keed about the frequent Wisconsin posts.  I think Wisconsin is a bellwether and for that reason I in extremely interested in this election even though I'm out on the left coast.  Thanks much for your efforts.

Posted by: Cicero at May 30, 2012 02:11 PM (QKKT0)

13 As a Green Bay guy I appreciate everyone's interest and encouragement.

Posted by: tommygun at May 30, 2012 02:12 PM (cb4oU)

14 So you're saying that maybe you've been right on your poll predictions OR maybe you're wrong. Thanks for the incisive analysis, CAC.

Posted by: Soona at May 30, 2012 06:07 PM (dVXgD)



All indications point to one or more of those being true.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 30, 2012 02:12 PM (z1N6a)

15 I see dead people.

Posted by: WI Election Board at May 30, 2012 02:12 PM (dVXgD)

16

How about we let Barrett move into Walker's basement when he loses? 

Barrett = Chuck Cunningham

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 30, 2012 02:12 PM (Ec6wH)

17 Seriously, thanks for the updates CAC.

Posted by: slatz at May 30, 2012 02:13 PM (zFXQB)

18

CAC,

 

Thank you for the polling information.  I am next door in the people's re[ublic of Minnesota, and we can use some good news for a change. 

 

I wish we had a republican governor,  - Gee thanks "Independent Party" idiots. 

Posted by: rd at May 30, 2012 02:13 PM (9sUlj)

19 All indications point to one or more of those being true.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 30, 2012 06:12 PM (z1N6a)


And don't forget that the Undecideds can go either way.

Posted by: George H.W. Bush at May 30, 2012 02:15 PM (QKKT0)

20 I don't think the GOP turnout for the first round was expected to be that high, so it stands to reason that the same GOP voters will be energized enough to return to the polls.   

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 30, 2012 02:18 PM (Ec6wH)

21 Rasmussen will be out tomorrow with his take on the state of the race. BTW, today the Federal Govt. verified the jobs numbers that Walker put out last week.

Posted by: Greg at May 30, 2012 02:21 PM (j+Xk7)

22 BTW, today the Federal Govt. verified the jobs numbers that Walker put out last week. Posted by: Greg at May 30, 2012 06:21 PM (j+Xk7) ...real Greg?

Posted by: CAC at May 30, 2012 02:24 PM (4BaG/)

23 Firstly, I endorse the sentiments expressed in #9 above, and thanks for your updates.  I think there is a potential #5 -- voter fraud.  Not an issue if there is a large Republican turn out but IF #4 happens it could be a player.

Posted by: rabidfox at May 30, 2012 02:26 PM (5f4PX)

24 CAC, Wisc is critical this year. Obama's fundraising should be interesting after a Walker win, he also needs to establish a path to 270 without Wisconsin - that will be creative.

Posted by: Jean at May 30, 2012 02:27 PM (t5Klv)

25 Hopefully Walker will eventually pursue right to work legislation if he gets a 2nd term. Does he have the balls? That will cause a further exodus of employers out of Illinois and benefit Wisconsin.

Posted by: Sean at May 30, 2012 02:45 PM (D5qKi)

26 As a Green Bay guy I appreciate everyone's interest and encouragement. As an Ashwaubenon guy, I second those thoughts. And I will say the Repub's gotv campaign locally is in full steam mode. Lots of calls reminding that early voting is on. Lots of calls asking if I and the missus are going to vote, etc.

Posted by: Exanter at May 30, 2012 02:46 PM (t7qH7)

27 RCP is excluding these push polls from their average. Also, if PPP does a poll over the weekend for release on 6/4, that poll will be gold.

Posted by: LorenU at May 30, 2012 02:56 PM (NqJX/)

28 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at May 30, 2012 03:13 PM (7W3wI)

29 Having spent my first 35 years in Wisconsin, I am loving this Dem collapse. Madison, (a more wretched hive of Lib Scum and Villainy des not exist) will freak the fuck out, and that is a very good thing. Milwaukee's perpetual hand-out welfare denizens will weep and rend their Air Jordans on election night. Fat, stupid unionistas will remain fat and stupid. I can't wait.

Posted by: ChampionCapua at May 30, 2012 03:23 PM (KZi9D)

30 Don't forget the hundreds of thousans of potential Barnett voters in sout south Milwaukee (aka Chicago.) If you don't win by more than the margin of cheating, you don't win.

Posted by: Glenmore at May 30, 2012 03:34 PM (EuPtY)

31 CAC~ I've really enjoyed all you r WI posts. Thanks for your input. Just a few more days & then you can rest. The woods are lovely, dark and deep.    But I have promises to keep,    And miles to go before I sleep,    And miles to go before I sleep.

Posted by: Jypsea Rose Graveyard Shift AoSHQ at May 30, 2012 03:36 PM (bGGkR)

32 "I get a lot of you are pissed that we keep talking about Wisconsin. " Not me. I've taken an interest in Wisconsin ever since the Teacher Riots at the state capitol in Madison. Those f**kers need to be put in their place. And of course it will send shivers down the SCOAMF's spine.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 30, 2012 03:38 PM (7Xdb+)

33 "BTW, today the Federal Govt. verified the jobs numbers that Walker put out last week. Posted by: Greg at May 30, 2012 06:21 PM (j+Xk7) ...real Greg?" Yes. Going by the TV news coverage tonight, it looks like the Barrett campaign is now John Doe, John Doe and some more John Doe. And that's what the local broadcasts want to focus on, as well.

Posted by: Greg at May 30, 2012 03:44 PM (j+Xk7)

34 Going by the TV news coverage tonight, it looks like the Barrett campaign is now John Doe, John Doe and some more John Doe. And that's what the local broadcasts want to focus on, as well. Posted by: Greg at May 30, 2012 07:44 PM (j+Xk7) All John Doe, all the time. Being that a lot of other things seem to have blown up in Barrett's face its his pocket ace, if there are developments between now and Monday. That didn't happen in the last year of Walker fighting the growing recall effort.

Posted by: CAC at May 30, 2012 03:49 PM (4BaG/)

35 Don't cha worry about Wisconsin.  There's a lot of us here that got pretty p.o.'d that our vote was thrown out over the left's temper tantrum.  Every comment I see in a comment section of some new over-the-top Walker bashing kool-aid drinking commie throwing out yet another set of lies (apparently, we're supposed to throw Walker out because he hired a defense attorney), it only makes me all the more annoyed, and I share those comments with my friends.  We won last time fair and square.  This time, it's personal.

Posted by: Harry K. at May 30, 2012 04:03 PM (vez/B)

36 Don't apologize for the coverage. Anything that wizzes into their teeth is good to know. And this is a good, loud, pungent asparagus wizz to let them know what's coming.

Posted by: Sken at May 30, 2012 04:03 PM (roRDq)

37 I know I'm speaking for myself and several others that we're grateful for all the Wisconsin coverage and your in depth knowledge on the topic. It's hard to get up to date information from the MSM when the topic doesn't favor their preferred beliefs and/or candidates. Keep up the good work.

Posted by: NJRob at May 30, 2012 04:05 PM (FVp26)

38

Wife and I just flew 8700 miles from Hong Kong to Chicago just to re-affirm our votes for Scott Walker.

Keep the faith.

 

Posted by: ExPat Pratiot at May 30, 2012 04:18 PM (frDtf)

39 I'm in Dane County (the belly of the beast) and have received at least four pieces of anti-Barrett pieces of direct mail from the Walker campaign. If they're hitting a hostile county that heavily, they must be pretty well-heeled. It's also been striking that the Walker ads have all been record based, either touting Gov. Walker's accomplishments or harshing on Barrett's record as mayor. The Barrett ads have been a bizarre mishmash of things like the John Doe investigation, trying to paint Walker as an animate zombie controlled by the Koch brothers, and something about Walker's "War on Women" I still don't get. Rest assured I'll be voting for Walker if I have to walk over broken glass to do it, and I'm going to lean on every Repub I know at the office to do so too.

Posted by: SparcVark at May 30, 2012 04:32 PM (p72M3)

40

CAC - I appreciate all of your efforts and make frequent checks for your updates.  Keep up the great work.

I live in Appleton (Walker yard-signs 9 to 1 versus RECALL WALKER).  I also have customers all over the state and what is surprising is the number of businesses that have Walker signs on their property.  When my customers see my Walker bumper sticker - it is High 5's.  That is not something that would have been acceptable in a business setting during GWB years.

This is a motivated electorate who are sick to death of having to live with the bullshit that Madison and Milwaukee have been shoving down our throats for years.

We have been turning out for all of the pre-game elections all year.  This is the Superbowl and I don't see the Cheeseheads staying home for this one.

Oh, yeah, GO PACK!!

Posted by: kimmbber at May 30, 2012 04:54 PM (U37mK)

41 ...real Greg? There is no greg.

Posted by: all trolls are average joe at May 30, 2012 06:04 PM (NG097)

42 You get complaints? The only complaints I get are my wife complaining about my overages on our data package I incurred compulsively checking for new updates! I loved your coverage of the WI-call almost as much as I loved those sweet, sweet poll results. Here's hoping we don't blow it.

Posted by: T bag at May 30, 2012 06:22 PM (z+8ab)

43 Live in Alabama. Still find these posts fascinating. Keep 'em coming.

Posted by: rbx at May 30, 2012 07:53 PM (2Lm88)

44 I am a government employee who lost some of my benefits and wages here in Wisconsin. I can't wait until next Tuesday so I can vote for Walker! The democrats keep painting him as a Rock Star and when he wins again Tuesday he will be a rock star.

Posted by: Dave at May 30, 2012 08:15 PM (WNMpP)

45 Your words of caution are totally warranted! Tea Party Patriots (and other center-right groups) are on the ground in WI going door-to-door in an effort to help our fellow patriots in WI. We will be here through the election and are out every day knocking on doors. ALERT: While polling looks good and attitudes have been favorable on the ground, polling and attitudes don't actually cast ballots. The unions and their left-wing allies are quietly bringing thousands of people to the polls to vote. We've witnessed it with our own eyes and it could make the difference. So while there is reason to be optimistic, please understand that it's not over until the last ballot is counted. We still need people to make calls from home, to come to WI, and to be election observers. The possibility of fraud is very high and those of us that care about the integrity of elections must be proactive in defending that integrity. Please encourage people to keep going hard, as though those good poll numbers don't exist. I don't want anyone getting cocky. People can sign up here if they want to help: https://www.teapartypatriots.org/help-tea-party-patriots-in-wisconsin/ This election is ALL ABOUT TURNOUT!!! Right now the unions are doing their job very well. I can only hope that what we're doing is enough.

Posted by: LB at May 30, 2012 08:31 PM (fuZh4)

46 Great posts and excellent coverage on the pre-election polling research. I've been watching from Georgia since the original uproar started about the state budget in Wisconsin. We have witnessed a lot of bad behavior from then until now on the part of the union thugs, who have fought hard to divide Americans. It is heartening to see that real cheeseheads are able to see and understand the efforts to save a state from bankruptcy and are absolutely willing to stand together and fight for what is right. If we never had any idea how out of control spending could destroy our strength, seeing other states heading toward the massive black hole California has plummeted into -- along with the positive example WI, NJ, IN, OH and others have made with their willingness to work together, Wisconsin is becoming a shining example of American Exceptionalism. Anytime someone questions the ability of America to rise above the problems she faces, direct them to the video clips of the man who showed us his city on the hill and embedded within us a spirit of good. Good will overcome evil if we persevere.

Posted by: Terry in GA at May 31, 2012 08:40 AM (kZE1G)

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